 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the late night talk with me your host Ahmed Ali and a very special night in Karbala We are celebrating one of the most blessed occasions that Allah has granted us with I won't introduce the topic nor the guest yet We do have a very special guest with us and a dear friend of mine and a brother of mine But but tonight is a very as I mentioned very special night. Everyone here Karbala is packed lit up with lights Amazing view of what I can see right now And I hope at home you guys are doing the same celebrating having cake with the idea on it I did mention the topic Aid al-gadir on it, you know celebrating with your family with your mother and father If you're married, then you know with your wife and kids. You don't have kids just with your wife Well, anyways, let's go to our special guest Mr. Hussain Sokhni So how are you? How are you? How's it going? Well, I got it. Thank you for having me. I'll be show Okay, although the same does not you know have me on this show welcome to Karbala You know, I stepped down and I said, you know what? You're gonna be on my show But you know, he's doing a very nice job and welcome to Karbala. Thank you You know a lot of good feedback has been coming in. I don't know why you're laughing Because I know you're trying to get me to put you on the show We'll see inshallah Wow, okay. Okay. Now tonight Something very nice. We've planned something Beneficial fun, you know an energetic at the same time Yeah, let's get down to it But yeah, I mean as I mentioned tonight is very sweet You know, we're trying to bring the smiles on your faces at the comfort of your home From, you know, the land of peace land of Karbala. Welcome to Karbala As we said, we always present show it and I've copyrighted that. Yeah. Have you? Okay? But yeah, we have a quiz we're gonna quiz each other on various topics Some of them are on the deal some of them are on I mean we thought it and the rest are, you know General Islamic questions. I've paired mine and Hussein has prepared his Although, you know, according to my knowledge, I know I say Said I'm not called me. I told I don't know if you guys watch the night Like all night a lot a couple of shows back, you know, so my questions are gonna be pretty hard I don't know if he's gonna be able to answer them. I've got a leather folder. I should mean a lot Okay It feels like It feels like let the points and the answers speak for us. Yes. Yeah Now I talked a lot The first bit we'll get to talk about just a day or now send a lot of people according to them Gideon means something different Okay, but there's one theme That's in common between all of them now to you. What's a good deal? What does it mean to you? Is this part of the you know, it's not it's not it's not it's not. Yeah, okay? Bismillah, Rahman, Raheem. Allah ma'salli ala Muhammad and Muhammad Okay, Gideon, yes It'll go to me. I have mixed feelings around this time of year. Okay, which people are you surprised here? Because it's so close to Muharram people are getting into that Muharram vibe Preparing for Muharram. Yeah, at the same time, it's the happiest day of the year. Yeah So you have so mixed feelings, you know, do I prepare for this do I prepare for that? Yeah? So it's a bit of you know, pulling either way. Yeah, but at the same time, it is the happiest day of the year It is the day that completely our religion. Okay It's the day we are most proud of it is Yeah, more important than any of the Iyad we have so Essentially, it is one of the most important days of the year, but at the same time Looking at where it's placed in the year. So it gives me personally mixed feelings. Yes, it does and actually if you Realize Ghadir was just you know, 70 days before the Prophet's death 70 days before that and and he made such a huge statement on this day And you know, I advise everyone tonight. We are going to touch upon, you know, brother Hassan We'll get to talk about a little bit on Ghadir, but it'd be amazing, you know in your spare time, you know spare 10 minutes. It's not a lot I mean, come on. Definitely not a lot. 10 minutes. The amount of time we spend sleeping Take 10 minutes even before you go to sleep or when you wake up 10 minutes to read, you know, the sermon that Prophet Muhammad gave on Ghadir and it'll give you a lot of sense On on, you know, the tranquility that should have been placed On earth, you know, the peace that should have been, you know, spread on earth yet Some, you know, deviated. We don't want to get into that You know, it is a happy occasion tonight Now the first part of today, we're going to play a quiz Now if I answer correctly, I'll get a point, Hassan, answer correctly You'll get a point at the end of the show, whoever wins gets one point and tomorrow's show will count and We're not going to reveal the Winner, what does he do to the loser? Okay, but That's tomorrow But the main game at the end of the day, whoever wins gets one point and tomorrow if it's a draw We'll do rock, paper, scissors or something We'll just see what happens. We'll see what happens. Okay. Now You start So first questions for me, yeah first questions for you. Okay nice and easy I'm not gonna go too hard because you know, I know you've taken it easy on me. Okay Have your hopes up All right, hey, then you want to be on my show? I don't I don't okay question number one. Okay Okay, I'm ready. I'm trying to find the easiest question for you. Yeah, go ahead. Okay Okay Which chapter and the Holy Quran contains the verse that was revealed on the day of Ghadir name the chapter and the bus Name the chapter and the verse I Believe I believe it's so well that's on my mind is it sort of my Is that the chapter and the bus But is that correct? Oh, I'm give me the full answer. Okay, so So I believe I believe although I may be wrong I'm a day I don't my little come Dina come what went on a committee What are the two look on Islam a Dina? Okay, which I think it's the third or the 56th. I So is it the third or the 56th 56th? I think Oh, so you got it down. He just changed the game. But anyways, yeah, so we can later have proof of what he said, okay? All right, it's being recorded. Okay. Yeah Just forgot to record it. Anyways, but yeah, hope This is the first question. I was Martin What did the people say to Imam Ali when they were paying paying allegiance to him? So what did the people say to Imam Ali when they were paying allegiance to him? You don't have the answer to that earlier. I was trying to cheat. So I'm guessing he changed some of the questions Let me see. I've got this down You don't have it. I Okay, so with the question, please What do you do? Repeat the question, please. Okay, so question number one What did the people say to Imam Ali when they were paying allegiance to him? I don't know why you looked in your book, but that makes me Suspicious if what you have the answers about I'll just no planning head for my next question All right. So the people when they paid allegiance to Amir al-Mu'mineen Okay, I'm gonna drag this on a bit so I can remember so when they came on the day of Ghadir Khum to pay allegiance to Amir al-Mu'mineen, okay? They approached Amir al-Mu'mineen. I said Allah Al-Ghalib And they said And they said No, there is a talk I said there is a narration on this I'll start by him Bukhin Bukhin Laka Ali. There's a continuation. I know the first part. Yeah, it's not on my mind. That's the problem Yeah, I'll have to give it a pass to be honest. A pass. Yeah. Okay. All right. I'll try it Okay, not your turn. No the first part everyone knows. It's just a continuation. That's the problem. Okay. Okay Okay. Okay question number two What was the date full date of Ghadir? full date of Ghadir well, you know 18th of the Hajjah Oh, 10th year after Hajjah You're acting like you're thinking about Because it's either 11 or 10th, but Prophet Muhammad died 10th year after Hajjah. So, you know ascent 18th 10th year after Hajjah. The second question according to a very well-known Narration Approximately, how many people were present on the day of Ghadir? There's a it's very well known mentioned by both Sunnis and Shia We say there's a multiple choice quiz. No, it wasn't I wasn't I wasn't she had my mind programmed that Okay, so of course I have to improvise. Yes Okay, so, okay, I'll give you I don't know if the viewers just saw him blink But no, I had a twitch in my eyes. Yeah twitching your eye. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I'll give you multiple choice 120 80,000 Over approximately a hundred thousand. Okay, so I have the option to phone a friend. Oh No, it's 80,000 80,000 80,000. Okay. Okay. Okay. I don't have a pen to my No, it's alright. It's alright. I have a memory 80,000 recorded by over 80,000. Yeah Okay, why changing the answer now? I'm not changing the answer. So it's over 8000. It is over 80,000 But the narration says it's over 100,000. Anyways, it's still over 80,000 question number three is to you question number three Yeah, then why I've picked out easy questions. You said this is gonna be easy quiz. We're gonna act it out I'll give you easy ones. Don't worry What are these easy? They're easy. Yeah, but it's not top of my head ball. All right. Okay. Go ahead By the time we're sure I can you all right. Sorry. I need full concentration. Oh, yeah Okay, I need I know you know I need full concentration. Okay. I'm gonna give you please. I'm full Which Sura is called the bride of the Quran which Sura is called the bride of the Quran I just pretend to get it wrong. If you know just to balance the scoreboard okay Rahman Rahman, let me check again Okay A very good question very easy as well In which country is the area of Ghadir Khomein? I mean you can throw a rock at a billion people on a fall Let me think about this one It is the area of hijaz in modern day Saudi Arabia, okay But was known as hijaz at the time. Okay, because we're referring to you the words Saudi Arabia Okay, so hijaz you find the answer my final answer. Are you sure? All right, we're up to 250,000 ladies Okay Very good Very good. Why don't I say very good to my own questions What is the famous narration by the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa alayhi wasallam as he raised the hands of imam ali Amir al-mumineen on the day of Ghadir So basically for the people that don't know the Arabic language when the prophet raised the hand of alayhi wa alayhi wa alayhi wa sallam he said Hey, listen, I asked you the question. Okay. Okay. Hey, that was that part of the answer. Okay. You volunteered Okay, so, uh, so basically uh, prophet Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa alayhi wa sallam, uh, raised the hand of alayhi wa alayhi wa sallam and he says Whoever I was the maula their maula basically meaning their leader Then ali is their leader alayhi wa sallam is their leader. Allahumma wali man wala may Allah You know guide the ones Who take alayhi wa alayhi wa sallam as their maula This this is just an off-top, you know translation Allahumma wali for him to slip up in the translation Wali man wala basically Allah swt is you know guiding the ones who follow alayhi wa sallam wa adi man aada and be enemies with those who You know become enemies of alayhi wa sallam and what's funny about that narration to mention saying Is on that day everyone pledged allegiance now. Why would prophet Muhammad say to the muslims Allahumma wali man wala wa adi man aada if everyone pledged allegiance because you know, they have the Unseen knowledge knowledge of the unseen They knew who they didn't get portrayed by they knew what was exactly exactly and you know, it's um It's unfortunate what happened later, but however as I mentioned we're a happy mood right now Okay, so question number four is to me how many battles Okay, so repeat that how many battles did imam ali fight during his life Do I have to name them? Yeah Should I say name the battle that okay, okay name the battles how many and name them, okay? Okay, this is two minutes to the break. Yeah. Hi. Just give it. Okay, uh, nahrawan Okay, uh, Jamal, okay, when he had his calafa, then you have before that Okay, we'll see if you got that right your turn. I don't have to tell you it's your turn No, but you're the whole I'm the guest you're going to guide the guest All right, I'll guide you You know, I'm I'm Allah sent me as a guide. So I'm a guide you. All right. May Allah bless you and your family How many years was the imam it period of imam al-hasan? How many years was the imam of imam al-hasan? So, you know, according to According to the information you have on your computer You know from my very Intense research, uh, you know that that I do on my spare time, you know on the narration for the last 40 years 40 some years, you know, um, I I would go with 10 years I would go with I I I think I hope so I hope I thought your research is Well, okay. Uh, now this this question is very tricky Didn't you say it was two minutes to the break 10 minutes ago? Or was that just to No two minutes. Oh, okay. Last question. We'll go into a break Name the famous dua recited during ramadan And recite the first few words Did you just say let me just get this question straight Did you just say name a famous dua that is recited in ramadan? Okay You do rise ramadan in the month of dua, right? Yeah, I can name I can name 50. No, no, no, but there's one recited after saat al-maghrib There's one dua famously known to be recited after saat al-maghrib I'll give you a hint. No, it's it's a very long dua and it's it's like an opening Okay, all right the first line. What is it called? What is the dua called? Okay, good I said name the famous and also just yeah, you said after saat al-maghrib Saat al-maghrib Who after maghrib? Like, I mean, yeah, you could please clarify that for the sake of the viewers not to cause confusion All right, so I respect the viewers we're going to go into a short break and we'll be back shortly But do stay too and have fun during the break who will be will be back Uh with more fun topics to talk about that's after the break Here Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the late night talk with me host Ahmed Ali And as we began off the first part of tonight's episode, I would like to congratulate you As well. Thank you very much my And and you since you put yourself in You know And everyone around the world on this very special night. Uh, it is uh night of qadir. Everyone, uh, is joyful Karbala is lit up It's saying I'll I'll leave you to comment on that. It's actually unbelievable the way The atmosphere has been made by the people the amount of people that I hear The lights of the shrines been haramain. It's just a vibrant atmosphere. Everyone's wearing bright colorful colors It's the happiest day of the year here and I can't imagine how amazing is in negev to be honest Yeah, I mean in negev uh last year. I was actually fortunate to go to negev And record there. Uh was actually very nice and then You know, I had to be pulled back to karbala. Uh, but yeah, I mean, uh Right now negev is the place to be but you know, I can't complain I'm near abalfala abbas and you know I'm hussain alaihi salam But the second part of tonight's episode, uh, I want to get to know more about hussain, you know, it's uh, It's always, you know on the cam. We don't know anything behind the cam. Uh, you know We'll let the the the viewers know what hussain does Behind the cam and you know, how his days are spent now hussain What made you choose a show like welcome to karbala? That was a good relaxing question. I was gonna panic for a second. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. It's it's we'll set up slow Okay, so I'm gonna save some water Welcome to karbala I've lived all my life in london. Okay. I've only been here for a year. Yeah. In fact, it's gonna be a one-year anniversary in a couple of days yes, um Yeah, I come two three times a year four times a year sometimes But every time I'm back in the uk back in london always yarn to be back here I've never felt comfortable away from karbala away from about abilal Yes So, uh, I wanted to give people that experience as well Yes, providing them with an opportunity to perform my life. Yeah, I'm gonna be advertising here Give you the opportunity to perform my life. Yeah, I love from your homes Just calling for your whatsapp So, yeah, that's basically it. I wanted to give people that opportunity that platform where they can look at the shrines Uh, get their names called out next to the shrines get their names written and put in the shrines They can call in perform a live ziara. Yeah, it creates a platform that I didn't have when I was in the uk So I think it's a great opportunity. It is. I mean, and you know when when I was in canada A lot of people, you know, because sometimes you do have the money You don't have the time and sometimes you have the time, but you know, you're low on budget Um, so broke uni days. Hey, it's a broke uni days If you know the viewers, you know, remember those a lot of people had those. Uh, yeah, very good time. That's my good to details But yeah, I mean, uh, but uh, hasain show is a very nice opportunity for everyone, uh, to actually, um, bring Not only their souls, uh, but you know, spiritually and physically Hopefully physically to the land of karbala, you know, and um, I know in ghadir You were doing a special a special night. What were you doing? Yes? We had the special episode where we done a quiz as well. Yeah, I think three of the questions are asked I'm asking you now, so So, um, we got a winner and the winner received the flag from inside the shrine from the inner dome On the way to the viewer to canada, inshallah. Oh, okay. So, uh, do you want to reveal the name? Go on facebook. Welcome to karbala follow it and you'll find the name Okay. All right. So it's a shadow. He's not going to give the name until you like the page. Uh, but yes, uh, now A lot of people wonder Coming from the uk You know, it's it's very hard. I know and I know you get this question a lot. I've gotten a lot when you come to arab Uh, you know, what are you doing here? We're a lot left to laugh for a while Yeah, we have we have a co-worker with us, you know, when he always goes into Listen to the room. Yeah. Why did you leave London? Why did you leave Canada? Come to Iraq, you know It's it's a funny question. He asked it in a very funny way It doesn't actually mean it but a lot of people mean this question when they ask it because they Look at the west of being um, a country that you know is Very well developed at the end of the day. Yeah, you're coming to karbala at the end of the day You don't know what you have to lose it You don't appreciate something when you're always around it. Yeah, so the people here not everyone Maybe a lot of the people here because they're always around the shrines because they're always around this atmosphere They don't appreciate that. They get bored of that burn. They get bored But when you're living outside, Iraq away from the shrines Every time you hold the measures you wish you were here Throughout there, you wish you were here. He's doing Ziyara coming for 40 moharam majalis You missed that vibe the atmosphere. Yeah, so it's different there. We have a yearning Here we have a duty people maybe don't accept that duty sometimes but It's different. It's a different vibe different feeling. So for me because I lived away I've always had that yearning now. I have that linked with my duty to serve the zawar of ma'min hussain So, alhamdulillah, I've got both of these things that I can work with now As the people here some have the duty some don't accept it But they definitely don't have that yearning Of someone who's been away from ibaab didna and you know and it makes sense because honestly, you know for even when you go You know forget about being in karbala but When you go on a journey or when you go on a road trip to a different city to a different country to a different continent You know when you come back home There's that special feeling. Oh my god I'm I'm finally home, you know after such a lot even if you had fun on that trip You're gonna still have that feeling. Oh my god. I'm still I'm finally home. Yeah, this is my home sweet home But karbala is the home sweet home for all the shia out there because honestly, no matter how Well off you're living How good of a life you're having when you come to karbala you feel like it's a it's the actual home that You need to live in and it's not just like us Saying this because a lot of the zawar that do come that we meet with A lot of the groups that come that we work with When soon they come to karbala, they they never want to leave. It's not just a thing of oh, I feel home Like this is home, but they just never want to leave. Yeah, and when they do leave We always get messages. We get emails. We get calls saying I want to come back pray for me Um, I missed the shrine and send me pictures. Yeah people have that attachment once they come they do They do now hussain How many times have you celebrated ghadeer? And haram Maybe once if not Once was it last year. No, no last year. I was I came after ghadeer last last year. I came two days for muharram So I think it's either 2007. I came a week before muharram. Oh, this is going to be my first Oh, okay. I'm sure. Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. So the first time let's say first or second time So this is my first time. Okay. So the first time you remember in ghadeer now What's so special about karbala and ghadeer? I don't know when they had a bait say this is the greatest to aid that Allah has gave us Or given to us What's so special about it I think not just with ghadeer, but with all the occasions. They're happy and the grievous occasions. Yeah, karbala is the place to be Okay, why? Because aba abdillah is the fastest and the largest ship of salvation. Okay, so Me not just because I'm the son of the city or we're both sons of the city We have this attachment about abdillah. Yeah, but The service here is always going to be more. There's always going to be more pilgrims here than anywhere else So it is our duty to serve here to welcome those guests There's always going to be a huge atmosphere here. I could go to negev. Negev is down the road an hour drive Yeah, you're driving half an hour It's down the road So we could go we could go duzyara, but then we're missing out on serving the pilgrims here You know being here on this platform to serve the viewers To give them a feeling of what's going on in karbala Yeah, uh, now, uh, let's go back, you know, since we got enough out of hassein We drained them enough today. We'll talk to them about tomorrow. Uh, but the final Game for tonight We have a words game. There's another game. Uh, yeah, yeah awards game It's it's when he gave me only one paper That's your bit, bro. It's this is mine. I get to surprises surprises So, uh, there's one more game. It's called words game now The way this work this this game works. Yeah, this word game This game works, uh, is basically I give hassein A title And he has to guess a word for that title and for example and he doesn't have a lot of time So as soon as I say it, he has to answer. So let's go as an example type of candy Uh, okay, so wait, what does the game work again? Okay, so the game works as I tell you A type or a title for anything and I have to say something related to that something related to the title Good type of candy Okay, so you had time to think about that a founding father A founding father. Yeah Oh, okay Wow, are you cheated right there? I'm thinking a founding father. What else could it be? Uh, 2018 Nationality Iraqi Number 12 Around objects A full wall Okay A body part Chin Since your chin is so nice Beautiful word Don't get me started Okay Yeah, so, uh, a funny word Okay, uh a verb ending in ing Playing Okay, adjective My mind's gone blank Animal Wait My mind's gone blank. Where are you? What's going on animal dog dog? Okay profession That's a profession Let me just google that But yeah, I mean He actually did it one because you started on one or two, but Or three or four or five or six The last questions for tonight. All right, we're going back to the quiz Okay, and the way this works is basically Um, I hope I'm winning up to now. We gotta we gotta count. Um, but the last part for tonight Is we get to ask Asks, you know, we get to ask each other a question On general topics Whether the on Whether in sports I mean general already. Uh-huh name a body part was not general. No, no, but this this this was, you know It's it's a word game to see if you actually won or not which you lost You know, we'll see. I'll give you, you know, a couple of a couple of pointers. Uh, but Um We're going back to the quiz, but it's different now. We mentioned a lot about ghadir Now we want to see if hassein actually knows about general topics No, knowing the Quran knowing the ahl al-bayt alayhim as-salam, okay, uh now Brother hassein Ya Allah Name the 14 and the 14 infallibles backwards I should know this. Okay. You have 10 five seconds five seconds. No, no to start. Okay, five Um Okay, I believe there's two because I said 14 infallibles. I said 12 Great, great. Great. Now. Why is it important to actually, uh, ask this question? I thought I was gonna mess up on that A lot of people know I I I did a survey once and you know, it's it's gonna surprise you I did a survey once you saying survey surprises No, no, really because uh, I asked this question to a lot of people Uh, approximately, you know, I'm not gonna say many but 50 people. That's a lot 50 people and I said mention the imams Not backwards regularly from one to 12 or the infallibles from one to 14 And for you know to be an actual muslim You know or to be Following any religion you need to know the basics about that religion and the basics about the about islam is to actually know The protectors of islam the problem is when you start saying oh we need to know this people start labeling you as a religious fanatic No, no, no, it's it's it's not a religious fanatic That's the problem people see in that light Whereas this is the actual like you said the fundamentals of our religion. I mean your grave you can be asked many imam I'm your imam. You don't need to be a fundamental fanatic. Uh, you know, uh, to to to ask that Slide past it I don't know what I just said, uh, but You For a person to be following any religion for I mean example when you're following christianity You need to know who jesus is And the disciples and you learn about john matthew mark and all of them I just make saying random white names. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, you know, come on. I'm a religious studies graduate Okay, so I would know that uh, but no no with with all honesty, you know knowing, you know for christian They can name you a lot of things about jesus But when it comes to muslims When when you tell them or specifically shia name me the 12 or 14 infallibles They're gonna have a hard time to do that You know, that's why I request that's why I request from brother hasain to mention them again Again, no, no, but you know with so we have prophet muhammad sallallahu alaihi wa sallam In order Peace and blessings be upon him which was appointed today As the successor of prophet muhammad, you know, which is very fundamental to talk about because is he a spiritual leader? Or is he a physical leader? What do you think? He is the leader for stop. Okay, which means it covers everything Everything maybe at the time. He wasn't the political leader at the time Uh, because of some Treacherous maneuvers by certain figures, but in general he was the leader in everything Like the prophet said, uh, am I not do I not have the rights over the believers themselves? Same with emir al-mu'minin. He passed that onto imam ali. He has the rights over us in everything So he is the leader in everything But unfortunately at the time due to like I said betrayals and treacherous actions. He wasn't the political leader Great. Now we have and then after i'm on the talib, alaihi sallam Which was appointed today by Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala and by the prophet Uh, which before we go to fadm al-zara' alaihi sallam, uh, there's one very important point to talk about is God is like threatening the prophet In the verse revealed on this day, you know, because he says And if you don't You know You know, it's if if you don't and If you go through the quran Page by page verse by verse chapter by chapter You're not going to find the law subhanahu wa ta'ala telling the prophet if you don't do this We don't find that except on the day If you don't do this or prophet if you don't reveal what was revealed to you have not completed your Then you have not completed the religion You know, why do you think Allah tells the prophet that I mean 23 years of hardship of battle of You know of pain of pain of you know seeing your loved ones gone your mother your father Uh, your uncle your uncles. He didn't see his father, uh, but his his uncle Yeah, yeah, his his uncle His other uncle hamsa Abu talib seeing Al-malghaib seeing all his family being killed. Yeah, it's not an easy life. It's not why would Allah, you know Type of threatening because you know when someone tells you I wouldn't do this a warning a warning if you don't do this I'm gonna do this. So last time I was telling the prophet if you don't Reveal this you haven't completed. Why? I think I would encounter as a threat or a warning. I think that's just to show us The people the value of ghadir and the value of that day Like the elbate and the prophet are the nur of Allah So there's no reason for them to be, you know, you do this or this happens that doesn't apply to them But that's just a lesson to us To show us that you know what That's just to that extent That even Allah warns the prophet if you don't do this The religion is not complete all your hard years a hard work all these years all the 124,000 prophet for you all that work All of it goes to nothing if you don't complete this That's just to show us the value of it. Yeah, from what I understand from the ayah. So I don't think we look into it much, but I think you know it's a threat but more of a warning to us And even then you see a lot of people they don't See that value. They don't appreciate That I don't appreciate ghadir. Yeah, because you know my My motive behind asking that question is because a lot of people, you know, when you talk to them, especially from the The sufi school They say that alaihi bi talib, yes, is an imam and they believe in the imam of spiritual lord He's he's our spiritual Leader, you know, we we take him as spiritually now the question that I would like to end it with today Is if you take someone spiritually In your spiritual life now in your spiritual life Alaihi bi talib teaches you to be honest To be trustworthy to feed the poor to have manners To look after the orphans to be a good governor to be a good leader Now if all of these fit into this person's characteristics or this person has these characteristics Then why is he just spiritual leader? Why isn't he actually the the actual leader of of the imam? Now, you know, just to keep the viewers wondering, uh, with with my very intelligent question But no, no, stay true You know, if you have the answer just you know answer below on youtube, I know keep keep your Comments below But no with with all seriousness a lot of people have that answer when you ask them is he physically Or a spiritual leader, but I would like to thank you very much tonight. Thank you very much for allowing me to win I will we'll get to see you later But yeah, respect the viewers. Thank you very much for tuning in tonight. Tomorrow, inshallah at the same time Very late night. I'll be back