 Hey guys, so we have just watched New Nightmare, this is a movie that Mark has been building up for quite some time. Least to say, it's different from the entire series, it is nothing like the other movies at all. For instance, Two People Die. Yeah, there's only two deaths in this movie. And I guess technically there's four, because the other two special Vex guys that died at the beginning of the game. But you don't really find out they're dead until like the third day. They die off screen, technically. Well, they kind of died on screen. They died on screen, but their deaths were just a dream, but then later on in the movie they actually die off screen. But it's also almost two hours long, and I think that's one of the issues I have with this movie. It is way too long, especially when we are spent so much time with Heather Lang. Lange Camp. Lange Camp. Who's Lange Camp? Lange Camp. Who does an incredible job at acting bad as herself. It's still probably her best performance in the series. Oh yeah, it's not. Yeah, I'll do that, but like, well it's like, well it's like when 50 Cent did his, what, get Richard Dye trying and he was terrible as himself. That takes a skill. That takes skill. But this movie, I mean the first and foremost thing you have to mention. First of all, Heather does not play Nancy, exactly. Heather plays Heather Lange Camp. This movie is like the most meta of meta movies ever, and it came out in 94, which is like before Wes Craven did the Scream, before all that changed. And it's, I love how meta this movie is. The basic premise of the film, Freddy Krueger haunts the cast of the original Nightmare on Elm Street movie while they're making another Nightmare on Elm Street movie. Wes Craven's in it, rest in peace. It's actually kind of sad. There's a whole scene where he does like a little monologue talking about like the death of characters and the death of like one's creations, and it is a little sad. Yeah, it was actually really sad because you could see that he had like, he was a soft-spoken person, and just hearing him talk about it just because he's been dead for over two years now. It was actually, the scene had an unexpected sadness to it. Yeah, it was a little bummed me out a bit too. That had Rob Shea. But it's got Bob Shea, it's got Lynn Shea, shows up again. Italian-Mexican guy. He didn't do anything. He literally, they just did a headshot of him. But John Saxon's back in the movie. Oh, you're dead. I'm not dying again. I'll admit that. If I'm correct, this is one of the first movies that really did this, did this whole acknowledging that, the whole idea of a film life, like putting a movie within a movie. I'm sure it had been done before, but it's the first time, especially with horror, that it really went that way. It goes way further than it would expect it to, which it's actually kind of disturbing it how well it does this, and just, that's one thing that kept me going throughout the whole movie. Oh, all these meta-emages, like all the little hidden parts that are thrown into the movie from previous films, all the characters coming back, especially how the movie morphs into a movie at the end. So she goes through this whole thing and all these things happen. They have a lot of cool throwback moments, like the baby sitter gets killed and dragged across the ceiling, in a rotating room like Tina in the first movie. They get to a point where she gets back home and John Saxon's there and she's, oh, John, you got to help me with this, and to the like, if you're paying really close attention, he says, like, Freddie Krueger killed my husband, and he says, yeah, sure. And then you don't get that that's a callback right away. And then he calls her Nancy, but he doesn't like, as he's leaving, it's kind of subtle. You don't really notice they're not paying attention. And it's really cool the way they just kind of all of a sudden you realize they're in a movie in a dream and it's like super inceptiony dreams. Oh, yeah, exactly. There's definitely some inception moments. However, that novelty, I guarantee is not there as much on the second viewing on a repeated viewing. You haven't seen this in. Yeah, it's been a long time. Exactly. So that works for you. But I swear, if we were to watch this like a month or two, like, not even like a month, like, yeah, definitely like a month from now, there's no way I would this would have been as enjoyable. Like, that's the problem. It uses its novelty to its advantage. But at the same time, it's such a rare kind of novelty. It's like a twist ending in a movie, especially a movie that relies so heavily off of a twist, like say the rest of the movie isn't really that great, but the twist in it is pretty decent. That's what happens. You replay the rewatch ability is diminished entirely. And that's what I feel for this movie. This movie has some really cool. Elements, but honestly, when the ending, when we came to the ending and Freddie's chasing her kid and I sat to Mark, what's actually happening? Like, what is the point of this? He's like, oh, there's really no point. Yeah, there isn't. There's really no point to what he's doing. I mean, Wes Craven gives the motivation that he's a demon that wet that got trapped in the movies in the Nightmare on Elm Street series. And since 91, when the movies ended, he was just kind of wandering. And he started coming into the real world, but still being Freddie. And the only way to stop him is to make this movie to contain him again. So it's kind of, it's kind of like a ring thing. Like create the, like keep the thing going or whatever. And I mean, I don't know, I'm not, I won't get too much. I just, I really do like this movie. I like the idea. I like the changes in Freddie. I thought the Freddie makeup, the makeup, it's super cool. It's like a new, we actually get two new claws because the first one, the metal one that's really cool that does the like Adam family cousin. Yeah, is it cousin it or is that the hairy one? Or is it thing? Thing, it might be thing. Anyway, the hand, it runs around and then we get his like bio engineered hand, which is like super cool, like bound coming up. Like it's a very cool. That was a cool thing. I'll admit that was cool. And also I actually liked Freddie in the trench coat. Not with the hat. Yeah, he didn't like the trench coat. With the, when he, when he had the hat, he looked like a senior citizen walking around with some butter knives on his hand. But otherwise I liked this movie. I liked all the elements that it tried. I just couldn't watch this again with the same sort of interest. It, I would rather watch, I would definitely rather watch one or three. One or three again? Because that's the thing too. There's almost no special effects in this movie. Yeah, there's. There's terrible CG. The first, the first we get, we get a little bit of CG. That's awful. I will say, another, another cool thing that meant there are earthquakes feature a lot in this script. That's cool. And it was shot right around the time of big earthquake in LA. So they actually like have footage of their like the movies. Super post. The like movies post earthquake footage. Super real earthquake footage. Super, which makes it even more meta. There's some good scares. There's some good scares, but the lack of special effects, which is what made these movies so good. Yeah. The kid is derpy. I, I was, I was, he got better. He got, he got better. Niko Hughes is great in this movie. He's a kid and it's the first time in this series we actually have like a legitimate kid that Freddie is going after. The guy who plays her husband can't act. No, he's terrible. He's, he was, he was not very good. Super wooden with his lines. And it's fun seeing Robert Englund as Robert Englund. With the glasses, the Bono glasses. His Bono glasses. And like even the first time when he's the Freddie, he's doing the crowd thing and he's running around. Which I'm, which like, you know, he's probably like, he's, you see him in interviews and other things like that. He's super jovial. So it was fun getting to watch him. It was fun watching all these people get to play themselves in a movie and like they bring in a few other kind of like meta things to it. One of the storylines is Heather Langerkamp in the movie has a stalker, which is based on the fact that she really did have a stalker in real life. And Wes Craven asked her if she could put it in the movie. I will say, I think I felt the time a little more this time around. It's probably the fifth time I've seen this movie. And it doesn't help that we got off of work about two like at midnight. It was a long day of work. But, um, maybe her, maybe her. But I really, I do like this movie. I think it's well done. I didn't remember that there was this few deaths. Which I, which is a good thing, I guess, because I remember the movie being kind of scary and they got some, they have a good jump scare with the closet, which is a great moment. And, uh, the special effects at the end of the movie are cool, where he does the like be the huge mouth. Oh, the mouth, the mouth thing, that was spooky. That was, that was spooky. But the problem, just my main issue is that how long it took to get there. And then the novelty of the whole thing was starting to wear off on me. I like the idea. I'm not a fan of the idea, but I appreciate what he was trying to do with this. And, uh, I don't know, I just, uh, yeah, I, it's so, it's such a unique idea and horror. Like this type of thing doesn't happen very often. No, God, no. And it definitely doesn't happen with someone as adept as Wes Craven. Like I've seen other movies that do the whole movie within a movie and things like that. And this is different, I'll give it that. It's totally different from any of those other productions. But in the end, um, well, for ratings, I think this is the first time we're gonna be really different. But I would give New Nightmare 4 out of 7 my rating. It's still my second favorite in the series of the main series, not including a favorite station. It's probably, I mean, I probably like this movie as much as I like the first one, honestly. But it's not, it doesn't, it's as revolutionary as in all that. It won't ever have the staying power for me that the first one did. So, but I'm still gonna give it a six because I really like this movie. I think this movie is, I love this movie. Oh yeah. So that now leaves one more. And I keep forgetting we are gonna do that one, but that means we are going to do the remake. The remake. Which star Jackie Earl Haley. Jackie Earl Haley. And the first time we're gonna see someone play the Nightmare version of Freddy Krueger that isn't Robert England because we've seen a couple of kids play him now. But, and it's got a lot of like, what's her name? She's from Arrow. Hmm. I don't know. It's got some local. It's got a lot of, got some local actors and like blur out here all the time. I'm interested to see if it's worse than Freddy's dad. Oh dude, the CG alone is gonna piss you off. Oh fuck. All right. It's probably not worse than Freddy's dad. No, okay, that would be hard to do. That'd be hard to top. But I do like this one. This redeems the series for me. Oh yeah. It's a great way to end the series. It ends it on a positive note. I'll give it that. And I mean, not the remake, New Nightmare just clarifying that. I'm not going anywhere in the way. All right guys, so we will see you when we do the new, sorry, the remake of Friday, Freddy. Holy crap, I'm tired. He only fell asleep once this time though. Yeah, once and just like for like 10 seconds. Anyways, and then we will decide what we do next. I still, I wanna do the Friday series. I do too, because I actually have never seen any of them except Jason X. I don't know why. That's literally the worst way you could watch it. I really wanna see the Friday movies. Let's watch the worst one in the series. And then we, after we do all of Friday and the remake of Friday, which I don't hate. We will get to Freddy versus Jason. So that's probably 2019. Yeah, some were very far away. Thanks for sticking with us this long. We appreciate it and we'll see you later. See you guys later. You're the music. Subscribe, bitch!