 What about UCB Upright Citizens Brigade where some of us started but I wanted to talk about how there were all these improv comedy scenes before then and you were part of one of them was it improv asylum or ACME I can't remember. ACME comedy theater in Los Angeles yeah it was kind of the you know I ended up doing mad TV which was kind of like SNL mad TV and then you know during in LA before it was groundlings ACME we were kind of always trailing behind groundlings but I liked it I liked that there wasn't a committee that voted you in or out of the groups with with groundlings I heard it was like political and you were voted in there's a panel of other people deciding whether you got to be in the company or not and that was just seemed kind of like wait a minute that's if someone doesn't want you to do the same shtick they're doing they're gonna not vote you how does this work how can it be fair and so I like to ACME was one dude his opinion he decided who got in who didn't I often disagreed with him but I just liked knowing that there was just this one decision maker a director it's not called fascism it is called fascism it is I enjoy that