 Here we go Getting it because I was gonna Barrel straight through into it. I did want to just play that clip from So I think we're just gonna open with that the plan here Look from Twitter. Thank you all and we're gonna think play and listen for a minute and 20 seconds This take and you're gonna have to do your best to not comment till the end Which is gonna be really hard, right? Okay, the test all of your ability. I hate it I can see people chat excellent way late Watch together trust me. It is we let me watch together, but it was your fault Yeah, all to see around the internet looking for alternatives. You was crazy Learned Emperor Lee I wonder how much it damages like several people shows because we can't be like Like has a serious impact on the worldwide economy We can't watch you two videos together. It's all crashing Alright, like I said while while people are coming and we're gonna listen to this takes I'm gonna post it to you guys Get a ready it zero And then clickity-clack And so remember you've got a don't don't go we gotta listen so wait So do you want anybody to like comment during it at all or I just want to try and listen the whole thing and then everyone can talk Oh my god, yeah, this is gonna be a challenge. All right, this is tick-tock Lex reviews. Hmm. Yep All right, everyone ready to play Three two one go Zack Snyder is the reason for DC's downfall None of this would have happened if it wasn't for Zack Snyder Why did he have to take these real dimensional characters? And I don't care about Snyder showing us why having a symbol of hope is so important in the world we have today My Batman shouldn't kill I just want Batman to not kill. I don't want to see an arc Oh, no, you can't say that and becoming the best version of himself I just want to see the one-dimensional character from the comics put on the big screen Is that too much to ask for a visionary like Snyder? Yes Beautifully told a story about Superman trying to find his place in a world that doesn't want Slowly becoming a symbol of hope Justice league him having to die in order to become that symbol of hope in a world that does not want him Batman becoming the best version of himself by facing his demons by bringing Batman to a level that we've never seen Doing the one thing that he swore never to do because it's why he began his quest to become Batman in the first place We don't want to see our heroes have feeling My life that was rough the amount of the amount of distilled copium that has been compressed Backdoor like, you know Snyder destroyed the DCU. It's like, oh, yeah sure sure by having characters with dimensions This guy's big mistake was shitting on the comics that was like his big fuck up Nobody will like that. Nobody likes that and it's wrong. Well, it's totally you know, it's wrong Awkward though like it it really does it's isn't it such a bizarre scenario where it seems like in order to prop up these films It involves like shitting on the source material like that that anybody who's like super duper invested in that universe Kind of has like a level of disdain for the material like it's odd Well, I mean that's all kind of part marshal like the smug delivery of like oh I'm sorry that this this version had to be too brilliant for you and that you sorry you're tiny feeble mortal mind couldn't Over himself trying to explain the quote-unquote arcs and reality of these characters like doing his absolute best to make it sound like it's something I thought it was It was funny as fuck what he was like We just want single-dimensional characters, but Snyder can't can't do that He has to give them multi-dimensions. He has to give them incredible arcs of feel you're like Must be watching the world cup is that you what's what's the world cup? Which ball is that is that a round ball or is that the round one? Soccer ball game where you kick the soccer ball the ball Kick it I like the one where they throw it okay wait I have a question for all of you people in the world who call it football right and not soccer Yeah, what what's the ball call is it is it called a football ball? Football okay, I suppose it makes sense very straightforward name. It's named baseball. Yeah, we call it a hand egg or anything It's like a boss Rags you didn't think that one through at all Think what through my off-handed silly comment Leave him alone. He was trying to dunk The dude tried to dunk on sports ball. I'm I'm literally not that was never my intention to dunk on anything That's an appropriate term It's okay to make I didn't make any mistakes. I hasty question Sure I did I literally Look all right rags. This is e-fap. There are such a thing as bad questions That's no stupid question what your kindergartner told you. Yes, there are dumb fucking questions that you can ask By the way, I've already seen someone say why are you doing this? He's on your side Okay, no, so I'm abandoning ship then I'm going to whatever the other side I have royally fucked up somewhere in my life He goes to the uh, he goes to the bridge. He's the captain of the ship. It goes, oh fuck pulls on a pistol I didn't know like we're out then. Um, this is I need that I need the Incredibles meme of the the people who know the people who don't know thing about This man and his uh, his his stuff. Let's just put it that way We have not got the time to not get into this So I'm just gonna have to explain right? Is there any preamble? Yes I'm gonna I'm just gonna give them my adventure basically which rags and fringing are pretty aware of and then metal to an extent, but basically mollars inferno Yes, I was sent many messages in different formats be it e-fap chat discord Whatever have you and they were like, oh, you got to check out the criticism of ragnarok that you're not addressing Yeah, mollar. Oh, Jesus. I'm sorry. Yeah, and so it's like, okay. Yeah sure what and it's like there's There's under the mayo. There's yatsi and there's synthetic man, and I was like, okay, sure You know e-faps all about this stuff for sure fine I chose Synthetic man first. I was just like sure. He said not a masterpiece. That sounds yeah You know, I could see that it was Reasonable it's like that the the video when we covered um the sputum in one, right? Didn't she open with saying it wasn't uh like an amazing film? We were like, yeah I forget I forget um Nuts it right, but of course. Yeah, you know it sometimes sometimes the conclusion we agree on Or at least find a 50-50 with maybe and it's the workings that can be a little I was I was watching this video giving it a given the old chance. I was like, hmm Not convinced by many of these arguments. Oh, that was about oh that was about oh god That was cringe and then it's like oh, oh this this This is uh, this is what they got is it all right? Yeah, all right, and then I find someone's responded to him and I was like, oh Oh, and I realized like seven people have responded to it. He's this video is annoyed people And I was like, that's fair enough. If you like ragnarok, you're not gonna like this video um So I check out some of the responses and I was like, yep, some of these are really on point. It's uh This all makes sense. And then he responds to one of them I check it out And uh, uh, this is when I was in a call with rags and fringing this funny thing happened, right in the video He references how he responded to it live I was like, oh, and I think I said to you guys like it would probably be funnier to watch His live response because they usually more fun and Yeah, uh, what a huge fucking mistake that was um, like I we watched that and that I was like, you know It might be worthwhile be watching his playthrough. He's got it all up. It's a it's a playlist And it'll make for additional references for the efap, right So, um This is this is absolutely where I would bring in the Incredibles meme But those who do know don't know they smiley For those who do know and it's me with a very sad face crying Uh, I I have seen more of this man's take on ragnarok than I think most people um So I decided to make a supercut This supercut contains His original video a response video the response to the response video and content from many of his streams This is the best over the week that I have done to categorize it chronologically slash by topic We are going to delve into his arguments We're going to delve into responses to them And then we're going to delve into his responses to those responses to try and cover everything And then we will delve into some other stuff And believe me Anybody who has a perspective about this person will likely feel a little different by the end of this Now clear schedules. You might need 10 hours for this I know we will Without I don't know why I would say anything else that sums it up Uh, is everybody happy to get started? Oh really buddy. Let's do it. That would be a strong word Like I said Simplest way to put it is He's got an opinion on ragnarok. We're gonna check it out It's fine. We love opinions. I mean that's what we do here really well thought out opinion I mean so many people. I mean this was recommended by people. It's it's got to be good, right? Yes with all these recommendations and after all he's on our side. So really we're just gonna be uh Agreeing with pretty much all this through and through Here we fucking go That fuck I gotta be careful about what it Wait, wait, that's not positive I only opened the tab. I didn't touch anything. Let's just scoot back to the beginning real quick It's only six seconds rock to a great start. I won't move it back to the beginning won't let me Explain this Thank you. Theo. Maybe maybe maybe that's the only way Fuck I gotta be careful about what I say. I gotta be careful. I gotta be careful Yeah, be careful. You never know who's watching People in the business call that foreshadowing What did you know by this anyway that people could be watching that's man I have no idea how to review this game on the one hand if i'm completely honest with you This is gonna be dislike bombed into oblivion on the other hand if I oversell some of the game's positives I'm gonna look like a liar, especially to anybody who look like a liar man I have videos to do this. Oh, how can I review this game? I was like well honestly Yeah, if I if I ever do this or that and I'll get dislike bombed and like yeah video sas preamble So gonna be the fucking end of me. Yeah preamble. I didn't want to make this video But here it is He didn't show up arriving Yeah cobin Wait, so sorry. I'll you know, I'll roll it back. He references his stream And so this is just me giving you some clips as we go to give you reference other hand if I oversell some of the game's positives I'm gonna look like a liar, especially to anybody who watch my streams Yeah, cobin Doing pretty all right. Not that I've done much today other than You know just have A horrible poop just a horrible horrible poop Is that Mexican? Last night Last night I booed up this stream as part of the playlist and it's just like I cover what I was doing But I just hit him say like I had a horrible poop mexican. I was just like The mexican does give you the poop. Yes That by the way is one of the better clips in terms of just That's relatable This is how you know, it's a reddit game. You can't kill the turtles Oh reddit One of the other things I did in Elden Reddit was kill the turtles Turtle killer It's a reddit game if you don't kill turtles like okay Line reddit game to me because I've never heard that It means it's a soy Oh, well, we wouldn't want to be soy. Well, I thought reddit was racist. I don't understand Oh, yeah, you're right reddit is whatever it needs to be The base or chan boys. They're like reddit is a soy. It's the they're the libs, dude So, you know, you're edgy if you're making fun of reddit. It's so funny that you're saying this theory. You have no idea Oh, I I like you draw that over. He hasn't even seen any of this stuff So I'm just I'm just blown away. But you've cracked the case. Let's say but Oh It's been a long time since I've made a comment response video The pivots years. I'm just setting up these roll of videos that I've I have put together It's not like I was lacking in opportunities to make one as you probably know if you've been around here for a while I was made aware of a response video made by zero needs coffee called the worst god of war ragnarok review synthetic man And this guy I can already tell this guy's a bundle of sticks. I can already tell As you can imagine, I was having flash. Yeah, that's a good start Good start. You can already streaming synthetic man is not quite the same as video synthetic man Backs to my doom eternal videos and the responses that followed and think boogie But I was about to say but a gamer Really And I won't lie when a gamer I saw this on stream. I was pretty tilted And this kind of goes without saying but please do not go to this video and harass this person The last thing I need is another reason for youtube to shut my ass down So the interesting thing about that clip is like, oh good, but then your reasoning is like no, no It's because it's unethical as because you shouldn't do that not because you're getting trouble for it. Yeah, you shouldn't Do that, but okay Right thing for the wrong reasons. Yeah, it's something. Well, and then let's compare it with something from his stream But please do not go to this video and harass this person The last thing I need is another reason for youtube to shut my ass down Yeah, that is a thousand likes. Well, you guys do your job dislike bomb the video. I don't give a shit Every one of you come here Oh, wow, you're so cool, dude. Yeah Don't do it. Don't become this person. Don't let hate consume you. Do you want to do it? No Don't tell people to dislike bomb anything. Oh, it's so fucking cool, dude I already don't like you. It's been two minutes You're on our side. Why would you do this? Fascinating isn't it on the compared to what he said in the video versus what he said on the stream He's two different people two and well, you have pretty much Weasley little liar, dude. Liar, dude Yeah, that is a thousand No, I might get in trouble from youtube. Uh, you you do what you must I guess. Uh, not even walking back Actually, no, but instead he went you do you do what you must Nice So a couple days ago a youtuber named synthetic man uploaded this video It was a review of god of war ragnarok and I made a video responding to his review He reacted to the video on one of his streams where at the end of the stream He encouraged everyone watching to go over to my channel and dislike bomb my video Which is against youtube's community guidelines and also is a pretty fucked up thing to do Just kind of shows what type of person we're dealing with all of how it isn't that like the the I'm I'm trying not to say tranny version, but the alternate universe version of Of marsalan that's like a boy or something So already we have like an effeminate male character that you're using for your avatar really not helping Really not you're not ready for what's about to happen. Seriously. You're not ready You won't predict what's about to happen next let's just watch this not helping. This is this is let me just A little bit just flex. This is happening. This is actually happening right now What I've been to this train ride before I know the last station of this one We're just starting the train yet. What is why why are you doing this the insecurity levels are off the charts? No, he's a masculine male. He's so cool, dude He's an edgy boy. He'll say what you know, the others won't and stuff I'm bringing you the fact. She's not gonna let anyone stop my raw masculinity versus this effeminate twink Are you fucking blob? It's kind of redundant, but Oh, well, like but he I mean did catch the other comments, right? He wants to assert his superiority in the form of masculinity Yeah, pretty cringy Making you give a fuck about this I always use adventure time characters as my pfps on my social media because I really like the show as a kid And the one for my youtube channel just happens to be marshally I didn't choose this picture because I'm woke or something and like the fact that it's a gender-bent version of marshalline I chose it because he's voiced by a childish gambino who I really like the music of please stop bringing this up It has nothing to do with the game. You're just reaching super far to try to find things to insult me It just looks fucking stupid, but imagine having to say this though by the way It's like we're back in grade school. It's great. I miss these kinds of uh You know these playground banters Oh, yes, if you haven't played the game yet, I recommend you go check it out But if you're not able to play it or have an xbox or something Then you can also check out a video like this like a full game no commentary video I highly recommend you go do that. Don't watch this video Go experience the game first and then come back instead of you know playing the game yourself Or just waiting until you could get a ps5 There's a reason I put that on the screen if you're not able to play it exactly like comprehension You need to get moller font. You need to get a get someone. Yeah, I use the this is like the default vegas one I'm just so used to it That you watch Game walkthrough and the part he's leaving out is when you then pretend you've played the game It's funny as well because like you got to acknowledge the fact that the ps5 is like notoriously rare Like people have oh, yeah, he's getting it And you could get it on ps4, but a lot of people probably want to you know, play it on ps5 Yeah, and then yeah It's just like there's plenty of reasons why somebody is unable to play it somebody might not have the money That's always that and plus I mean asking someone to buy an entire console to play one game And that's a big ask pretty big ask Yeah, like at this point in time like if you if you have like a pc for instance like should you get a playstation 5? It's like that's a Yeah, kind of depends on what you like for a console to have that sort of pull Yourself a real opinion on it. Are you fucking kidding me, dude? I hate zoomers so much I do It's darn zoomers First it was the millennials then it was the zoomers I don't know who's the boomers zoomers millennials the greatest generation. I don't know Do we go back to generation a generation a adam and eve a to The garden of Eden generation a I did not find a single comment Refuting any of my major points from the really not a single one. So this will be great for us Let's see if we can tackle anything. I'm deeply disappointed with sony fans this time. Sony fans I'm not saying he's calling us that I've just yeah, I've just suggested don't worry We're not so many fans, but you'll be fine. It's the game box tribalism of your it's still alive and well Just because I walked away from it doesn't mean it ever went away somewhere over there on the other island So don't like my god of war review. Well, obviously you're a sony fan boy What other explanation could there be? Well because his video for references video response to criticism was titled responding to sony fanboys so Yeah, that's anything that anybody who disagrees with you is some like big sony fan boy Who only plays on playstation and just like stands for everything that they want to make That's not very uh, Disagree with you as an irrational person like fundamentally I don't want to apply the the title fan boy though to someone who doesn't really have a good argument They're just like, yeah, it's the best because they have the best Well, I guess that would be his claim, right? They don't have good arguments He was infallible everything he said was true and correct, which I guess we'll find out whether that's the case soon enough It's sort of Because he concedes he's wrong about a couple things in his follow-up video I'm sorry like very concerned about making sure that it's never his fault or he's never wrong It's always something else It's one of the people he just likes the idea of you know, oh, I made people mad by saying this I've got the fanboys all riled up Yeah That's pretty based. We're still in the portion with people like leave him alone in chat It's like I'm surprised you guys are still here after you literally called for an attack on a channel with dislike bombing Like I'm surprised you're okay with that Obviously, don't worry Your mind will be changed by the time you hit the end of this stream Trust me just like every other person. We had to cover it that you're like leave them alone The saint got everyone the saint the guy the one defense for this ain't the same one Go ahead and defend filmento. He's like a cool dude. Even hi top brown table go for it. This guy No, no, no, this one You can muster for the game of the year of 2022 according to you Then gaming is truly dead and it's never going to improve. Sorry. That's a pee pee It's a really odd thing to say about an industry that's got a thriving indie space At the very least you're going to be complaining about I guess your cinematic games like the industry There's plenty of great games coming out. I'm sorry. You're not looking hard enough The the only game industry that is in any danger at all is Blockbuster triple A's Even if you want to stay in the triple A space just look at Japan If you're talking oh, yeah, so I was I was just going to clarify that point What I mean is like the only one that is in danger of Now the doc That's in danger of collapsing under the weight of its own requirements Like the gigantic budgets the big marketing cycles the dlc Plans that end up pissing people off like that's always the The danger of triple a expanding and expanding and expanding right whereas Even if that all blows up like you're not going to stop those teams of like five ten people or even teams of one guy Like juju charles just yeah, and that's a single developer game And it's it seems pretty cool. So it's like those will probably keep happening. Okay. I'm gonna stop the dogs from Dollar night was made by three people in australia. I think you can't stop the industry Why did you add in the australia part? Are you Well, there's not many developers in australia. We don't have many big I don't think there's any like triple a developers in australia, but there's definitely a lot of smaller teams games A lot of the ones that were here closed over the years unfortunately That's uh, yeah, that's but but in the indie space there's plenty of stuff going on in australia It's the cool thing about the indie space A lot of smaller developers getting I mean one of the uh out of the game awards One of the most popular like announcements was hades too, which is an indie game I was very happy that they got a showcase. It's really cool Again, yeah, you always worry about always happy No, we got a lot to cover. I've seen a lot of people mention that uh You know this take so far isn't even as bad as the high top one at the beginning That wasn't high top in the clip about superman and batman and stuff. That was some other guy I've seen a couple even high top has had to come out and say that is not me people keep saying Yeah, it's not him I don't I guess I watched enough of it, but I didn't think it was him, but a lot of people do Um, just got a funny similar editing style, baby. I don't know Similar Eating this shit up don't ask questions just consume product and then get excited for next product To be given this when like about ragnarok, this is Who would get that it's like really okay, because like it's so funny. We went into it so critical Like what we would say for weeks like who could be yeah, I'm scared headed for a last of us two situation. I hope not Yeah, all right. I mean anyone can use this for any reason they want so I pretty much lose either way, but at the end of the day, I would rather be as honest as humanly possible It's pretty much the only policy I've stuck to Oh He's so virtuous hell He drifts from the truth the more it will hate those that speak it I could tell because of how based your language is talking about the bundles of sticks and trannies Yeah, he's very true Man it's all about that truth Since the start of my channel so I've come to terms with the fact that this will likely be one of the most disliked videos I'll ever make in my likely short career on youtube The worst thing a video game can be is boring and ragnarok is one of the most boring Games I've ever played so it's worth pointing out boring is like so subjective. Um, yeah You know, like that's kind of all you can do I have like an intuitive sense of what he probably means, but that's about all you get from yeah, especially Yeah, my hope would just be all right references go because like, you know, it's one of the going to be for boring It's like probably extended periods of nothing happening low engagement with the game You know stuff like that. It's just you're gonna have to wait until he says it. But yeah, obviously we just well I say we I don't know if everyone here says it, but I I don't think it was boring But sure go ahead and give them I I didn't even play it and I didn't think it was boring Either watching a cutscene walking in a straight line or engaging in one of the game's many Hidden loading screens, whether that be rowing a boat riding a giant yak climbing a wall Shit, we've seen a thousand times You you can't lump in the big open areas that you get to explore freely with like these sections. They're not the same thing Yeah, I mean a moat is a hidden loading screen. I don't know why we're uh We're like fucking hate hidden loading screens now Like I would you rather have like an actual loading screen and yes small levels again He said he would and there was there's validity to discussing the the pros and cons of it But to outright just be like we've seen climbing before Like yeah, yeah, sure Yeah, it's it's the criticism like it's just a little bit deeper than that you can do it Well, it's not really cool to just devalue Big open world sections as disguised loading screens. These things are full of content and story and writing and to try and Pass it off as oh, it's just a glorified loading screen. That's just super dishonest Yeah, you got that's not cool at all. The um the mamiya sort of side mission in swattle fine, right? Like it's it's an enormous area. It's filled with several ports the land A side mission that spawns into another side mission It's um to say like all of the moving around of that area is just loading screens being disguised Like that's really weird like logistically speaking. There has to be a world in which you have to Have distances of difference between things like so you still have to travel like what do you want fast travel for everything? I don't think so so Why you Weird like to not have just everything is directly a straight path from the last thing you did like to make it So that no now we have need to go over here and we have to cross a lake Like that that that does add to the sense of like oh, this is this is an actual And it gets old this game does not respect your time Oh, that's like you're not expecting the game. Sorry. That was that was like actual story happening that you used as a It's funny to say that bell. Let's see what zero needs coffee said in response to it Not to cut you off. I'm just gonna say don't worry. They'll they'll do it and you get to see his counter Shit, we've seen a thousand times and it gets old This game does not respect your time Just like you're not respecting the game's story You put this section in eight times speed as if it's a loading screen or something This is a very touching scene where crittos talks to his now dead wife in a dream You're just skipping over it like it's literally nothing Oh, yeah, basically, yeah He thinks that's like a big emotional vote. No no Dude, this isn't real. This is like a parody. What he thinks is parody to say that the part is touching it anyway What In touch with your emotions as an adult But he's really he's really cool and based. Yeah, so he loves this because he's above all, you know That scene is like all the face scenes are critically important to the narrative. Yes. Very I'm gonna play the scene right after he finishes saying that it's nothing in it Not your dead wife like holy shit, and he's like, oh look at the subtitles It's super emotional as you slowly row a boat in a straight line No, come on about the straight line doesn't have anything to do positively or negatively to emotional impact It can't be emotional you're rowing a boat in a straight line. No less the logic. I'm flawed Please Which becomes doubly meaningful when you do the side quest about what fey did in vanaheim, but oh, well Obviously that is foundational to the character arcs that involve kratos and Atreus and their journey in 2018 and in ragnarok. It's really weird to be like that scene in particular is rowing a boat Yeah, so here's the loading screen. It's like why we're gonna go after any single part of the game for Wasting your time in some regard. I have no idea why you would go after the fey sequences because it's because that's emotional And and story stuff because femoids are involved They're very emotional This guy's got to be underage, right? Please tell me he's underage. I will I will I don't know why you put it that way I don't even know what to say to that. Please tell me he's underage Okay Retract my statements of his underage Do we have a confirmation? Like please tell me he's like like Tell me please I think he abandoned that what he realized what he was saying. That makes him look like a weird creeper Hey audience go discover if this this person is underrated like what are you doing? Yeah, I want to put it. I gotta stop pausing every two seconds. I'm pulling an e-fap. I really am pulling Why is it so hard for left-wing people to just address the arguments being stated in a video? Why don't you even go there As as I guess he sees everything through this political lens all the time everywhere always I don't know. You mean none on the note crazy. You say everything is political Oh, I see. Yeah, I have to make up all these motivations and I don't you know It's yeah, not like when in response to those sturdy fanboys. You're not inventing any motivations about most people This guy has to be underage to have this It was an underage thing to say Annoying He's not left-wing. He's right-wing. I don't believe that there's no way you like He's like luke and empire strikes bad He's not based enough to be right-wing He has an icon of a This woke mess No, there's no way that's true. What a what a bizarre thing to say Story if you were a right-winger Yeah, just let me know if you liked ragnarok the woke mess. You can't possibly be right-wing It'll out you're either lying to him or yourselves. Okay Oh My impressions can't be wrong. My knee jerk impressions can't be wrong madness not possible Right-wing. I don't believe that there's no way he would like this woke mess if he was right-wing No, there's no way that's just be clear. He's referring to god of war ragnarok has a woke mess God of war ragnarok everybody Is a woke mess You'll knew it Some of them did things We're getting to the point where that that callback to suspicious amounts of women a lot of people just won't know that That was years ago. That was like Gary references it all the time, but I'm like to your audience know where that came from. I don't even know if they do Frequently really anytime there's more than two females on the That was uh, yeah, that was no bullshit talking about infinity war. It had a suspicious amount of women Well, I thought you saw a black panther. I thought he was talking about it was the post of a black panther He says this is the fish. It's the pitchers the suspicious amount of women Oh, um, I might I forget it was. Oh, was it like the top 10 mcu things or something like that woke? I think yeah, something like that. Okay. Okay. Okay He complains. I was thinking infinity war because of the because of the giant midget comment He had to make that's the the what he said. Yeah, that was a little culture Yeah, well, then he's just jumping out of bandwagon then because this game is disgustingly woke Disgustingly woke Thanks, true next. So true. Are you kidding me? He's another blue-pilled bundle of sticks Oh Stop when I say it's a joke when you say you're being a mean person Yeah, if anyone you think to say no, I hate it Thank you If anyone was curious about like our stance because I don't know if we repeat it enough You understand like we're big into intent and context, right? So we're pretty much the idea is you're okay to use basically any word In in a sentence the but what's not okay is when you're like using it to say You are bad because you are that thing That seems to be the dynamic he's using it for which is we tend to avoid it We we like to do it for fun and in in ways that don't even make sense for absurdity, right? But he's actually like that is your problem like When it feels like it's harboring an actual sort of like Like bigotry. I want to see if It's not I don't like that Like I said, I think I know the last station of this train ride. I want to see if we get there. Oh Safe the video though Oh, sorry, yeah, let me let me roll that back because you have to see that in its beautiful context Are you kidding me? He's another blue pill bundle of sticks You know what I really want to say Uh, I'll cut this part out of the video though I'll cut this part of it doesn't matter when you cut it out when the streams are still there The public stream, my dude The internet works. I don't want people to see me saying these things on my actual edited videos You gotta cut it out of the stream as well. You can't just cut it out of the video I'm gonna do it You never know who's watching I already know just based off of these criticisms. You already think I hate this game and have no credibility left or maybe you thought Move on It's the boo-hoo pity me. I'm oh man. Just we are soon Soon to get the criticisms. I'm sure of it some time ago But I promise you that I am absolutely trying to make my review of this game as fair as possible Despite the fact that spies are See before it really woke before he said that I was like, I'm sure this guy's not going to be fair And then he was like, I'm gonna try and be as fair as I can. Oh, okay good It could be fair It could be he he it might be disgustingly woke and trash and the cutscenes don't matter They're just disguised loading screens, but maybe that's just true. So it could be totally fair All right, did you know every time you're wandering around in like any open world game? That's just a disguised loading screen When you like get in the car and drive, it's like man, this disguised loading screen Would you would you hit like play it it says Santa Monica Studios you're like I wonder if you didn't go after the one that everyone usually goes after for that being like the pass through narrow passageway thing Because he knows that they recently came out and said no, that's not actually disguised loading That's for level design reasons, which is what you'd think rightfully. So, you know, it's reasonable to think that that's a loading screen I I assumed it was as well, but The thing is just level design is uh, it's a it's a complicated thing But like you you ideally don't want the play to be able to see like the end of the level from the beginning Or like any of the seams or anything like trying to make it seamless is uh It's tricky Yeah, helps with the the immersion. You got to look trying to make it feel like a real place Yeah, like the it's all like um, especially back in the day when hardware really wasn't that good And you had all sorts of fog here and doors there and this and the other thing to That is why there's frog and silent Credit words due to the game or I guess like to give them their due It's especially difficult when you've got a i companions to account for as well Because they can just they just move around. Yeah, and you need some way to funnel them into the next play area That's right. Yeah Game Tony's been making for like a decade at this point They definitely have a lot of good aspects to them and this game is no exception So let's just start off with the best part of the game Now I remember back when god of war 20 the best part of the game is the combat which is not again I'm familiar with that's interesting That's uh, actually that's a new never hurt this opinion Most people seem to be praising it for his story, but all right. It's the game. That's fine. Yeah, maybe it's fine Yeah, I never played the game. I just watched it. The combat seems fine to me, but who knows who knows Sure, let's see what he says. Yeah, let's take a look. It's pretty controversial this change in direction The biggest change obviously being the over the shoulder camera Which is still annoying even in this game, honestly But you do get used to it eventually and I would personally recommend you turn up the sensitivity on the camera So you can turn around faster, especially since this game has very generous auto aim as for the main combat mechanics I mean yeah Criticizes the game for its generous auto aim later, so I don't know if that means then we should be leaving it on or turning it off I don't know Does you mean for like the range stuff or the move assist kind of thing? Well, I thought you can change the aim sensitivity You can't you can well you can actually do if the 180 degree turn as well I I was told they removed it from the game and then I was also told they didn't remove it They switched it to you have to hit l1 and back instead of back I think oh to about face. Yes. Yeah, which obviously is helpful for turning around Makes themselves I'd say they're but they were fun in the last game too It does take a while to get going for some reason They pulled a metroid with this game and kratos just mysteriously has lost almost all of his abilities and gear from the last So you weren't listening I was No, but we had we had criticism because all the god of war games do this So I guess it's just you know, I'm not going to assume anything. That's not like the originals either I would assume maybe he's critical of it in all of gaming not just this game Or there's a couple positions you can that would be something I'd cut my review though If I was making it be like I I would say that I I have this criticism of all games I just you know, it's also in this game Obviously god of war one you just start with base stuff god of war two you start with some stuff They've mostly taken away all your spells and other abilities and all your weapons And then you get killed by zoos and you lose basically everything you're back to square one God of war three fall into the river sticks lose everything god of war Three Things like the icarus wings and the golden flea so I don't think you lose. Oh, yeah, you get those So that's fair. You also get to have Poseidon's rage at the beginning, but then they take that off you after you Um Then obviously god of war four you start with just the axe and ragnarok you start you do start with just the axe But they give you the blades of chaos pretty quickly Yeah I'm not sure why I expect the metroidvania style explanation, but I do want uh I want to know why He got rid of all the artifacts that we found in the first one. I mean, is there any reason So seems like he's invested in finding out what the when he says metroidvania reasons like when when good old samus Prime yeah I And of course, uh, I imagine that's what he's referring to With which is what was missing from this one that was in the other god of war games, right? Like either killed by zoos or falls in the river or a reason. Give me a reason Well, the game does provide reasons as many people in chat may know Let's see what happens when they give him those reasons The reason why he lost all his shit is explained in game The reason freya never came to their house is because of the stave which stops other people from coming inside That'll come up later. There's more the first part of the weird. That's true. It's like this guy didn't pay attention See, here's another arrogant comment that completely misses the points in the video saying I'm wrong The arrogance Arrogance carving Video obviously there's an explanation for why kratos lost his equipment Me saying in the video for some reason was me poking fun at me. No, you said mysteriously Yeah, you said mysteriously You said he was seriously lost in gear meaning you didn't know why Not that you knew why and it was a bad reason Which by the way, I don't know if we want to go there because the reasons in basically all of gaming are typically pretty bad Yeah, like I hate the fucking resets in god of war games But I accept them because they're part of the game Like why the hell did I lose all of my magic in god of war 3 at the beginning when it's taking over like a second after god of war 2 It just you just lost it all it's like In this case where the explanation which we'll get to at some stage. Well, yeah, you know, I'll let it play Metroidvania get all your equipment at the beginning I'm not sure why I expect the metroidvania style explanation, but I do want uh I want to know why He got rid of all the artifacts that we found in the previous one. I mean, is there any reason Isn't it nice how fumble winter wore down all the helpful magic we acquired yet somehow new terrors only flourish as if on cue That part was just a hitting loading screen Mimir's comments is often yeah used to disguise a loading screen that is true I'm upping my strength. Maybe the enemies will be less spongey now Oh, well, I can't believe you guys talked to me out of You're talking over it You're talking over the explanation. What a good luck Yeah, and then that's fine. Yeah, things slip through the cracks, you know You would have thought you'd caught it for the video at least but nope. No, just missed the context lotus Is the combat gameplay the same? Yes, it's almost like the same They always find some dumb reason and god of war ragnarok is no exception. I don't care whether or not there is a reason I want to know Of all the art effects that we found in the previous one It was a criticism of the game design to start you at square one again, so It's a criticism of the narrative actually in terms of the way that you were framing it You wanted an explanation not to just like If it was a criticism of the gameplay you would be like So let's talk about the reasons why you would reset us back to like, you know Basic equipment versus keeping some equipment or keeping all equipment You wouldn't be highlighting whether there's a story reason for it If it was a gameplay criticism He's um, but if you want to talk about that topic sure games just I just want to say games Generally, they have a pretty good reason or set of reasons for resetting your equipment because you know The player has to learn they have to get into the game. Well, yeah, we well There's a reason why most games work like that It's something that developers figured out a long time ago Which is that people need to build up their familiarity and understanding of the games with new abilities always new players Always got new players And also you've got old players who haven't played it for a while, you know Like there's just the reality is that you need to introduce mechanics to people over some amount of time And as I get better you can introduce more and more and more You can't necessarily start off with everything you had straight away Because the difficulty curve is going to be really challenging to You know make them work and someone just said like the fimble winter excuses lame It's like they're always lame every time they do this in games. It's always going to be lame. Yeah But at least they give you something The god of war 3 1 might be one of the worst like he falls He has his Icarus wings. He just doesn't use them for some reason. He loses like grip on Gaia, I don't even understand why in that opening because it and then like he falls in the river sticks And do you see how small the river is? Like the light like he could have fallen anywhere else And he just falls right into the river that it's like and that's what uh That's what it does apparently when you fall in there and it's like right So all meanwhile this game consistently has fimble winter wearing down everybody in some way shape or form Including the realms which I think is actually like that's better chrisley has lost almost all of his abilities and gear from the last game And just saying that fimble winter destroyed their stuff is fucking stupid. Let's be real Yeah, so the reason I put this here is like do you see his like response to the idea It was fimble winter was like brah, but then when he found out it is three we didn't seem to Even register it. Yeah, I don't think he was listening He's hearing not listening. Yeah I've someone in chat was to ask him what maybe I just said I don't think he'd be able to answer I am of the belief that you don't have to start the player off with zero equipment Because you should make a sequel Assuming people played the previous game and if they didn't they can catch up to the mechanics So when when they're making super mario odyssey should they presume that people have played 3d world and galaxy 2 and galaxy 1 and sunshine And uh, there's this concept. I'm gonna call complexity creep and that's what this would be Imagine every iterative sequel at the start of that game. You have everything from the prior game Maybe like you've had like 15 weapons by now 20 And I just want to know that he's critical of god of war 2018 3 2 and 1 for this Uh, even one. Yeah, why didn't I start out with more mechanics in one than I did? Why didn't you give me more to start exactly? And you know, yeah the There's something to be said about in a new game the idea that like for me and probably for a lot of people I kind of like the idea of starting with you know at x level or state and then building up and getting Stronger and stronger and getting that sense of progression I really enjoy that about new games and new experiences I don't always want to start out with everything that that character ever had The mic get boring. Yeah, I might get up. I might be too strong at the beginning I will stamp it with a chat opinion if he takes this with every one of the games that do it Be like fine. I think it's a bad position, but at least you consistent on it. Yeah, I don't think he is though Like I get it, you know, but Really just make the early game encounters easy enough that you can still get by if you don't use runic attacks or reposts No, that's not the problem The problem isn't the people aren't going to be able to get by if combats are balanced around those things It's about overwhelming the player with things to do such they don't Such that they don't even know how to get started in terms of how to play combat. Yeah, it's like, um I get this issue when like, let's say you buy an mmo Be it world of warcraft guild wars 2 anything like that and you and you get a An account boost to max level, right? You get an account. We I see this People ask me like in that's the guild wars 2 for instance, right? You buy a game you get an expansion and they offer you A level 80 boost and everything like that so you can get to you know max level support and mmo's And so now here you are a new player. You've boosted your character to max level What the fuck is how I've got so many things. I've got abilities tied to weapons I got these utilities. I got skills. I swap out what what a hero points. What where do I go? What do I do that? I have access to the max level, but I'm just you're overwhelmed by all the mechanics in the game It's too it's it could be legitimately just like I said overwhelming And if but the path to get there when you're introduced to these things slowly but surely So that by the end you have a good understanding of all these things and you see how they synergize You don't get that necessarily if you just kind of throw all that stuff at the player at once And if the devil's advocate he's just talking about I wish there were just a couple more moves than what we got at base then say that Yeah, and that's an that's an entirely different thing, but yeah, you got to say that if that's what you mean Or any of the other Deathlock 997 thanks for five bucks since you notice how rune attacks from 2018 are normal attacks here kind of cool. I guess Not really Oh To illustrate that he doesn't even know what moves he had Yeah, but he's yeah, and that's going to become very evident the more clips I show you of him playing this game because holy fuck dude The implication from that gameplay element is that he's become far more familiar with these mechanics from to the 2018 game And so now they're essentially incorporated into his regular moves Which is you know interesting narratively Should feel he's getting stronger Not that he was forcefully pushed back to where he was at the start of the last game Because it's one of the many elements of this game that makes it feel more like a giant expansion Than an actual sequel and i'm not he actually hold that perspective not like god of war 2 and 3 He has to right because that's what god of war 3 is is a big expansion for god of war 2 What he said is descriptively the same for those games, right? Interesting this is part of what people were trying to tell me with their issue with god of war 3 That I didn't really get myself when I first played it because I was just fucking on the hype train But um you you end god of war 2 with your your decked out with all of your skills You have time travel is under your control to some extent and you've got an army of titans You're attacking the the gods like great god of war 3 begins and says A bunch of the titans died you fell off the fucking mountain into a river that stole all of your abilities And now you're back to where one in hell Like oh And like shit times god of war fans are really pissed about that. I wasn't but um, I assume he was By this oh, sorry otherwise some people pointed out and chat aptly that like in an expansion generally you start with what you What you actually got at the end of the game Tends to reset you. Yeah The every single destiny expansion I had every single weapon that I had from the previous expansion in the base game But the second destiny 2 came out one of the things that pissed people off is they're like Yeah, and by the way, you're um all your stuff doesn't well, I guess it's To some extent that's intuitive right if you're playing an expansion you played the base game Whereas if you're playing the sequel you may not have played the first game Yeah, so he's looking at a sequel as if you should be contextualizing it as an expansion the way we would yeah or the way you just explained where you You have to play the previous game to play Came out and that's not really the case in terms of I guess jump of the gun Maybe a little bit to describe a game that is longer than the first game is an expansion is odd Yeah, like first game I'd rather skip to the end All game I'd rather skip to the end of that argument and just be like if you call this a the ragnarok a dlc or an expansion I'd just be like wait you don't like dlc's an expansion Right. Yeah, that's me a good expansion in dlc. I love them when they're good People decided that iterative sequels are just bad, which is very strange Very odd iteration isn't bad. It's bad when there is no actual improvement with iteration generally And not to say it's impossible, but the ability that you could be truly consistent with this is Also, yeah, wait, wait, so the the natural response is not for 60 dollars really So how much should a dlc cost and let's just for the sake of the argument say you have a dlc The last few five hours and you're like, I'll pay I'll pay 10 dollars for that. It's like, right So times it by six in terms of length and you'll pay 60 And plus, I mean, what about multiple expansions over time? What if a game wants to have a lot of smaller ones or a lot of Like let's take like a game like rimworld for instance If you get the expansions they will cost more than the base game But they add an incredible amount of complexity and mechanics and value to that experience. So Plenty of examples of games that have so much dlc now and expansions that if you bought all of the expansion They're gonna cost you more than the game Surely he wouldn't apply this kind of argument to like a game like ratchet and clank where and you know When you play the game by the end of it, you've got about 30 weapons But every time in this in the next game you start off with one or two weapons Like surely he wouldn't look at ratchet and clank two and go. Why don't we start off with like 20 weapons? I think one doesn't ratchet Yeah, I don't think that's not real awkward. Yeah Thing on that note that I feel isn't even being considered by him is these games They are our time jumps between when they come out like this game braggenorock is four and a half years after 2018 So even if someone like played god of war 2018 to a great degree of familiarity Assuming they didn't play it for any lengths of time, which would be, you know Natural to assume considering So long ago and it's a narrative based game rather than one designed to be replayed They're gonna get dropped in with everything and they're still gonna not know what to do because they don't have any groundwork to familiarize themselves with Yeah, you just can't bombard people with that much if you have you started like ratchet and clank three with like 50 weapons Like could you imagine trying to figure out which weapons you should like Like in in terms of engaging with the mechanics at all if you started with like 50 weapons Oh, you would be lost we're clarifying No matter which one you use because three years You're overwhelming my options three years in narrative jump. Uh, I think he was referring to development time between four and a half years Release dates of game. Yeah, there's two different. Yeah Four and a half years. I mean easy comparison I was gonna say easy comparison point is the devil may cry games Uh four and five especially dante's kit when you first get to control them in four and five Is extensive and it's really pushing it in terms of what a player can feasibly handle In terms of a first experience with a character It's really easy to see people getting lost with them just because there's so much stuff that you're immediately bombarded with To some extent, that's the reason why you play as nero before you play as dante Character, you know, and that's why the games are built about around replayability He was at the start of the last game Because it's one of the many elements of this game that makes it feel more like a giant Expansion than an actual sequel and i'm not going to get into a debate about what makes a good sequel versus just an Because you'd lose. All right Really bad. We've got loads of examples of games. You like that do the exact same things. You can't win this one Right, you brought it up. You brought up the point. Yeah, you bring exactly you brought it up Creative lazy ube soft esk $70 You can't you can't Ragnarok to like the ube soft open world game. It's the buzzword strat, right? It'll get people who are familiar with that to be like, yeah, it is that oh, I hate those things too. Yeah Chin but let's just say ragnarok. I want to make everyone aware. By the way, these are the best arguments he makes It gets This is good as it gets. Yes. Did not meet my expectations We haven't done it in four criticisms yet, right? We're on gameplay where there's when we get to story criticisms. You guys are all going to die We're on gameplay criticisms sort of You have your own opinion on that. I really don't care. Yes, you do. Bring it up. Yeah, he did But let's just say Ragnarok did not meet my expectations of a sequel and you're free to have your own opinion on that I really don't care as long as it's not so the game kind of feels afraid To give you all the combat mechanics until about 10 hours in which makes those early combat encounters a bit more boring It doesn't help that I was playing it on hard mode, which I'll save that for the end since I'm being positive at the moment I'd say the combat ultimately feels kind of addressed all that Yeah Mostly satisfying juggling enemies in the air is fun just like it was in the original games Runic attacks feel pretty powerful and the fact that they just use a cool down instead of some kind of magic meter Is honestly more fun to me personally because then I'm pissed Why are you pissed Theo? Uh, there was a good reason that most action games do not use cooldown based Special abilities and whatnot because it's exploitable very exploitable Would you say it's exploitable because you can use the things and then you just have to run around for a while until you get them again Yes, it depends on the kind of game. There's some games where you just can't do that I mean just to be clear. I mean specifically like action games like this Well, could one not argue that it's a reward for Evading the enemy long enough you get to have the moves back Uh, then it could easily be tied into dodging No, I would say Well, I guess it would be something like you think about which time in bayonetta where it's like you dodge perfectly Here you go like here's an opportunity to like lay out extra damage when you you give players a buff based on Doing well So maybe like you can build up like if you had a combo system or like a score system Like in devil may cry that the better that you play in terms of combos the more quickly you'd be able to Problem is that can be tricky in terms of balancing like, you know, you don't want it to be that if a player is not able to Do that that it's like they are severely limited in terms of their ability to use these really powerful attacks Um incentivizing. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. No, no, no go go for it I was gonna say incentivizing the player to vary their play style is a very Difficult thing to do in games and it's it's usually very noticeable when a game does it well I was actually telling metal yesterday about a game. I've been playing called roller drone That's basically tony hawk with guns and it makes it so that you have to kill all the enemies in the area To progress the level but the way you are incentivized to do tricks is that's how you get ammo back So you need to kill people therefore you need ammunition And the only way for you to recover ammunition in your from your very very Small reserves too is to do tricks and so it's like, okay, so I I'm Encouraged by the gameplay to actually engage in the other gameplay systems as opposed to just well I can also do tricks if I want I guess That's why I I think this game ragnarok has A very apt system in place that it added that could be used to tie into the runics in a way that's I guess both more satisfying and better balance wise than runics And that's the permafrost thingy You can do with the axe where if you land enough consecutive hits you get the last thingy Which by the way is seriously like that was also under appreciated by me on my first playthrough and Yes, like yeah, it changes a lot when you understand. It's really good I think you could really tie the runics into that and I think I would consider that an improvement in terms of giving you access to powerful moves by virtue of you playing well Consistently rather than yeah and also tying them into something that is a resource that you spend and then reoccur rather than Because I don't want to I guess hang on this too long But I remember towards the end of your playthrough more or I started watching you just mag dump all of your runics on enemies Quite a lot. Yeah, especially when you get the bonus of the realm thing where like Yeah, makes a thing around. Yeah, like a gnar got annihilated by my runic build essentially Um, I'd be curious to know Because the first game I would downright call a little bit badly designed in terms of how much runic is favored Like especially with that laser. Yeah, the laser. They have that thing just melts people. It's crazy felt more balanced Yeah in uh in ragnarok, and I'm curious what it builds resulting because I've seen videos of people being like This is the best build and it'll be based on Charging up your weapons as hardcore as possible. It's not really related to the runics as much um, I saw someone like rip gnar apart with Charging up all the weapons Yeah, I hope I the impression I got was it was better balanced than in 20 It doesn't seem that way You can use them pretty much or and don't have to rely on magic chests Kratos also just has a pretty wide range of actions that you can do on top of having light and heavy attacks and the runic attacks You can throw the leviathan axe You can use the blades to grab people and pull them to you or pull yourself to them You can buff the blades and axe with their corresponding element There's also a meter you can build up by hitting enemies without getting hit yourself that once is full allows you to Buff one of your weapons and these are just through so yeah, it's just a statement once in the game So this is all fine. Yeah, you know to make all their attacks like twice as powerful which really feels satisfying and rewarding Obviously, there's also blocking dodging parrying Now I will say the parry feels pretty weak until your starting shield gets repaired And then you actually get invincibility frames on the reposts What he's referring to and he didn't grasp this for a long time in his playthrough and neither did I by the way I'm not sure if it's because the descriptions went clear enough or if I missed them But the Dauntless shield and the guardian shield feel almost like I made the mistake of assuming they're kind of exactly the same Or at least I wasn't sure the difference was Guardian shield allows you to once you get the parry to always land the counter Like it'll stagger the enemy if you parry the Dauntless doesn't stagger them Instead provides you a boost on the stun meter Right, so that's That's an exchange that you can make and of course what he's referring to here Is that uh, you have to use one of the other shields until the guardian shield is repaired He did not know that for the most of his playthrough was ripping into the game for it hardcore. I assume somebody told him But before that point disappointed in the parry against many bosses and bosses You would actually have to parry them multiple times the same Do you see what's many bosses? I think you said this is a whole I'm not sure if this critique is valid because it's something I was even complaining about but if you watch my stream I keep be formatting it. It's like Doesn't feel right But it's mechanically speaking. It's just it's pretty consistent. It's just not the same as the first game And if I could explain it as best I can it's the an enemy could do A block breaker a block breaker a block breaker a Unblockable that could be their combo or it could be block breaker and then unblockable or it could be block breaker and that's it He's used to whenever a block breaker comes up if you parry it properly They stop their combo is what the 2018 one does this one basically says if you have the dauntless shield They don't stop whatever combo they're engaged in The thing is that offers you a chance to really punish them on the stun meter if they go block breaker block breaker block breaker And you go parry parry parry that's going to push the stun meter up up up Um, and that that is the game basically saying like if you want to engage this format you can If you want to engage with that they get staggered and you get to hit back Then uh, you can I think that's an improvement in retrospect. I was complaining about it because I was so used to 2018 When I should have been like thinking about how it's different and uh, what that's what he's referring to when he's fighting the um the fire skeleton dude But before that point I was very disappointed in the parry Against many bosses and bosses you would actually have to parry them multiple times in the same combo just to stop the onslaught Which was honestly infuriating. So but It's designed to be that like I'm not saying it's designed to be infuriating I'm saying it's designed to give you opportunities to stagger To stack the stun meter. He doesn't seem to understand that Many parries in games work this way. This isn't uncommon in terms of functionality Well, you have to keep powering. You don't just immediately Yeah, that's pretty normal Someone said like a skill issue is like understanding issue. He doesn't seem to know That just that's just which like I said, I didn't know for a decent part of my playthrough as well Oh, you all have a partner character in the first game atreus would shoot arrows on command I think he also had a runic summon, but I don't quite remember So in this game it's not too much different Yes, he did Why would you not go and check that? Oh, yeah, why would you even Why wouldn't he go check? Oh no, am I not aware? Oh god, this is the best part. Okay, the best video part the best argument Except now your partner is really good at putting one of two debuffs on the enemy that amplifies your other attacks and debuffs And it kind of goes without saying but from here on I'm going to be getting into spoiler territory for various aspects of the game I'm probably going to talk done with the gameplay section. No. No. I think this is fair. He's about to talk about the spear, which is arguably a Okay, right. Actually, I think that is just a spoiler. That's about them for the rest of the video I guess so this is your last chance to leave So eventually you get a third weapon a spear that can generate infinite cappies of itself And you can detonate those spears on trying What is that? Wait, so I said hey look he goes on to say exactly what you said He said it doesn't feel in no he didn't mention the stun ma bar bonus about the dauntless shield. He didn't doesn't know That's that's what I was trying to point out. And secondly, it doesn't feel right is a terrible argument I knew it was a terrible argument when I was using it Yeah, it's got to be like a like in a casual conversation with friends as you're describing it You could say it doesn't feel right because you haven't really been able to it doesn't feel right is the starting Yeah, why exactly? Why does it not feel right? How come this doesn't quite gel in my mind? Yeah, it's a it's a valid comment, but it's useless as a breakdown of a critique of a game like Yeah, in an edited review Then yeah, there's a time and place for it feels weird, but when it's talking about mechanics, you gotta do better than that basically You gotta you gotta do better synthetic, man Goal Really enjoyed this weapon now when you first get it it doesn't have any abilities So it kind of feels like I don't like that it's a little bit of pet peeve of mine when people say actually When they're not contradicting any sort of supposed information Like I went to a restaurant. I actually liked it. It's like so the implication is you don't like restaurants Actually, it's we've been here for a while. It's legitimately genuinely, you know, they they use it actually Yeah, I'm trying to accentuate It's a filler word. It's just yeah, it's just an adjective positive Very interesting of itself and you can detonate those spears on triangle I actually really enjoyed this weapon now when you first get it It doesn't have any abilities. So it kind of feels like shit As the one you just described the detonation word, which is super useful, but hey Why are you playing music from Hades? He just like I threw a bunch of games. He likes Focus mk, which completely ruined the moment, but after you pump some xp into it. It's Probably It's exactly what the moment Annexed to people slowly introduced the core features of the drop near spear before you start adding on new abilities Lame Do you got to be to get a new weapon and then see you can't immediately fully upgrade it and be like, oh I'm bored then Yeah, we'll see. I think his response to that would be oh, so it's one or the other Theo I can't just have it so that I have a couple more moves or something But it's just like the reality is like you have plenty that they've introduced to you. What was wrong Like you couldn't use the next set of skill upgrades Like yeah, you can Funnily enough, you can buy a lot of them from the the set I think you get like a whole set of next level if you have the xp for it But I mean most people I've seen in that moment are just so fucking like jazzed by the fact They have a third weapon Which they know is going to get ruining attacks is going to combo up is going to have like special feature Stuff and they're just getting used to the basics light attack heavy attack jumping attacks and detonating the spears It's amazing how creative you can get with that spear as you as you start getting good with each ability So if you had all them from the get go you wouldn't you wouldn't really understand how special Some of the ones that don't seem very good at first are Favorite weapon in the game out of war goes to sparta playing as a spartan with a spear and shield just feels right And the spears that you can detonate in enemies actually juggle them further into the air And all of the spears attacks do stun damage a significant amount of stun damage compared to the blades in the axe I think the first time I watched this I said I don't know what stun damage means You're gonna tell me what what's the difference between damage and stun damage And yeah, so that would be something for review the bar at the bottom of their health That's the stun meter filling up stun damage just fills it up and what's interesting He said like it does done damage More than the others it's like well the blades do fire and the axe does ice So the idea So the best for this thing is probably the highest in the game or at least it kind of feels that way And the runic attacks I got were pretty powerful as well So yeah, actually great concept one of the few alt weapons in this series that actually feel satisfying The last positive I'll mention are the boss fights, which given this game is 25 hours long not doing any side content There's actually a lot of bosses, especially compared to the previous one I'd say all of the main bosses were at least somewhat fun With the first Thor fight at the beginning and the Heimdall fight about three quarters of the way through the game Probably being my favorite The Heimdall fight is the only one in the game that required me to think outside the box and actually play differently So I'll definitely compliment the devs for that and all in all it's a solid selection outside of one specific Extremely cringy moment in the game. Just remember this boss fight on screen here for later when people keep talking about how mature God of war is now We'll have to wait for that pop, right? Yeah, I guess we will have to wait Okay, I like the boss fights Thanks. Yeah. Well, so that's the thing is like I don't disagree. I guess I don't much I could do with that one The mini bosses on the other hand are a mixed bag Some of them are pretty great Some of them like the hateful are just fucking annoying to fight have random unblockable moves that make no sense The fucking god of war can't block a random fire skeletons x swing My immersion is destroyed aren't random though. Like they're they're actually they're pretty powerful bosses actually in all of This god of wars games. He's killed by like the smallest and eat the creatures. It happens all the time. I don't know why Yeah, every oh, yeah, that's what you need to do for the gameplay to be engaging and fun Every fucking game with unblockables and stuff like this has that exact sort of feeling going on like Uh, I'll get rising I guess Fucking Raiden the greatest cyborg ninja to ever cyborg ninja I can't parry this one looks attack because he's glowing red. Wow, okay Obvious joke though. Oh, how wrong you are. Is that an obvious joke? That's not that's not an obvious joke. I'm not even going from just this believe me. This is not a joke He's going to say it many times played Object to any other game. It just sounds stupid. How can the legendary crime fighter batman die to a random thugs punch How can the superhumanly powerful doomslayer die to a random projectile from a demon this sucks immersion ruined And die to a random thugs punch How can this superhumanly powerful doomslayer die to a random projectile from a demon That is true though Like I said, at least he's committing he shouldn't be able to die as the doomslayer or batman or god of war There's like smaller enemies. He's misunderstood his own criticism. Oh, I thought he was conceding I don't know. This is true. Like this guy's got me here. No. Oh, no, I thought he was saying that um He he agrees you shouldn't be yeah, that's a bad point I shouldn't be able to get killed by that random fireball Which would make the game so much more fun I would quibble with the response and say the criticism isn't necessarily the you know You are capable of dying because dying is a result of player actions being done incorrectly It's a result of the player fucking up whereas something like what was being talked about is Specifically in universe this attack has been marked as something that you cannot block Which is distinct in that it's there's no player input player failure in regards to that You like almost suggesting that if you were to lose to like a fire skeleton or a fireball from a lame enemy or a Bug randomly is batman. It's it's really not the character that lost canonically. It's just you playing that character really badly Yes. Oh my god. Oh dear you I don't even want to think about how many games would be ruined if I adopting this kind of attitude Like I can't lose. I'm the god of war I'm the hero. I can't fail It's just it's a really fucking weird point POV thing that it's like consider it a mission breaking. I just feel like uh I'll rip As literally no understanding of how video games work the fucking arrogance of this guy to say I don't understand video games I would bet any amount of money I play twice as many as you have and likely far more than that across my life I've played more video games therefore. I'm it's it's not often that you hear someone pull an argument from authority on themselves Why did you just address the argument like why did you go ham and be like I've played more games than you By the way, I want it for the record dsp's probably played more games than all of the people on this panel Well, he's an expert. That's what we always say So I don't really care how many games someone's played. That's the really dark. I've said before Uh, there are people out there who if they make the arguments of a particular caliber and like interest If they've only seen one movie in their entire lives and they offer their perspective on it I'd be like sure I'd be interested. Hopefully it's like insightful and not terribly I wouldn't just write them off because they've never seen a movie before I would legitimately want to talk to someone because they've only seen one movie in their life That sounds like a very interesting perspective yeah I want you to go to just some some tribe and pop one new guinea and show them Just a movie and get their perspective on what they think of the magic moving pictures Yeah, we're super interesting. How many yams does it cost? All of them The fucking god can't block a random fire skeletons axe. Oh, you can't my immersion is destroyed Oh, well, it's is it really or two doesn't a semi sarcastic tone, but it sounds like you actually Do have your immersion destroyed for that In which case sorry my dude. I'm sorry that you apparently haven't played video games before despite the claims, but To the slightest measure. I I kind of get it, man. Like no, I I think the temple is like why can't I parry that? It's a skeleton, but Like I don't know man. This being something It destroys like it compounds as well. It's not just a skeleton. It's like a magical fantasy monster The mamiad says it's like cursed and risen from the depths through your anger and pain Like the idea there's like eyes of scale like a pretty Yeah, that's a pretty hearty enemy Magical this the power level of skeletons in this world that are reanimated might be quite, you know ferocious I don't know why we just assume it should be the the size and strength Into well the power Oh because it's a meta thing one of the in video games one of the weakest enemies you fight is just skeletons You know, so he's taking that knowledge in there with him. Yeah, this one ain't the same as uh Like your average skeleton in some other games this one like this There's a whole sequence for these ones that uh make them very special I think um when mamiad says it's too angry to die crater says. Yeah, we'll see about that Um, yeah, we'll see a development of this perspective he's got here Awesome Couldn't just have kratos kill everyone one hit. Well, why not have it like the original games We couldn't just have kratos kill everyone one hit Remember the beginning of god of war two where you kill like a hundred uh, Athenian well, they weren't Athenian they were before that you fight the classes of roads uh, you uh kill a hundred soldiers I guess they were maybe Athenian type. Uh, whatever. I don't give a shit Greek I'll say you don't remember. Why do you have to say that go? Oh Well, he must hate the original god of wars. Oh sure. I I would assume I would presume. Yeah I feel like in the video. I gotta bring up god of war two kratos just killing All these Greek soldiers with no effort You know as a god at the beginning of the game and just compare that shit to this I don't need to say anything kratos the god of war is going to get Malled by a bear and die like bears are pretty fucking intense Yeah, why are you doing this dude? Yeah, I don't know. I'll say just just watch the sequence and then we'll talk about it all right Yeah, that bear is pretty terrifying bro You really wouldn't fight In the previous game he fought You know essentially the final boss in the beginning of the game and he's struggling to kill a bear It's a so yeah rukai has got thanks to 10 bucks imagine killing zoos and then you get mauled by a bear Yes, kratos has fallen on hard times You know you don't kind of die to the car accident after the war, right? Like this is just how it goes my dude Sorry Yeah, I don't I'm so baffled by this like I have no I it just feels like you just want to hate the game Like what are you doing with this guy would hate this guy would hate reading all quiet on the western front He'd be very upset So yeah rukai has got thanks to 10 bucks Imagine kratos big human The god of war gets killed by big human Hey humans are cool, okay. Well yeah kratos is supposed to be super mega powerful I know that's easy to forget given how badly this game butchers him Just remember i'm holding open like chronos's fingers trying to crush him like he's absurdly strong But you know now he's old and frail and weak I don't know if I call The good kratos is getting killed by a flame skeleton. Let's just flame skeleton Also the fact that a blue shield can stop the god of war I'm quite fond of that one a blue shield could stop the god of war like what do you mean? Blue shields aren't the other games as well by the way Well, yeah, there's all kinds of energy shields that stop kratos from going to places In fact, that's how they usually do combat arenas in the original trilogy, right? The whole premise of the drama is predicated on the fact that this is a difficult thing for kratos to be doing I don't think it's not it's not supposed to be a thing that he can just like okay I guess i'll take down the norse god blue shield equals liberal shield I want a base red g.o.p. Shield hell. Yeah I gotta say the dialogue is horrible fucking The story itself is okay I don't really like that the driving force is just oh, let's go find tear the god of war of this realm And his name's tear like he's crying You know, I mean just compared to the old games again like god of war one kratos is Is what well he's been serving aries for like a decade and athena helps him kill aries, right? So there isn't exactly much of like an inciting incident not not a great elevator pitch by the way What he's trying to say is like the incite incident of this game sucks We're just gonna go find tear compare it to the originals where you have Kratos who athena says go kill aries and then he remembers like oh, shit. That's not the incite incident It's actually the the hydra fight. He's like So we have that And just watch how he stumbles through trying to make this sound more relevant to the plot of god of war one Then he actually can he can't I mean it's one of the greatest tutorial missions ever. It's also Like ultimately means nothing for the plot Finding tear right which is brought on by atreus trying to find more about who he is and what's gonna be coming with ragnarok to hopefully Get in some way ahead of what's going to happen at the same time as ragnarok being on its way and kratos Desperately trying to avoid it and prepare for it. We go for tears like that makes some sense We're doing it now because the place we're in is unsafe and because atreus has been discovered is actually looking for him Anyway, what's a narrative thrust? What's gonna happen when we find here? Meanwhile, like this is the thing I never even wanted to to criticize the originals But it's like well, yeah the hydra fight has fuck all to do with anything that happens in god of war one The whole prologue is just irrelevant. It's like is that necessarily bad? It's like no, but it feels like you Accidentally tried to criticize the new game and realized you've criticized the old one like Is finding tear the inciting incident of this game though, I don't know that I'd call it that no Is the ordnance or no, like that's really everything that kicks off the story Save being destroyed so that ordnance or can get in that's that's the inciting that's the inciting incident because that's the thing That thrusts them into the invention like they have to at that point the door is closed on not participating Whatever, it's a video game or two Zeus betrays him when he sends to godhood and he loses his godhood and he has to get revenge on the gods Okay, that's that's actually a pretty simple works perfectly and then god of war three is a continuation He finally after killing the fates at the end of the second game. He goes to kill The pan the greek pantheon there you go. I mean, I'm gonna get into how much nonsense involved in god of war Two and three to make any of that make yeah One of the main times travel shenanigans and all kinds of things One of the main things they establish in the first god of war the re like the first question Anyone would have is why the fuck is athena trying to use kratos to kill Aries why don't you just do it yourself or do you know something else and she tells you she says gods can't kill each other You're like, oh Okay, god of war two and three all the gods kill each other. You're like Well, I guess something changed pandora's box ruined that element that of course a lot of people don't like god of war three because it retconned a lot of what pandora's box was To have the ending they wanted But yeah I would never in an attempt to criticize 2018 and ragnarok point to the writing stability of god will one two and three It would oh absolutely not. I like the story a lot and even I would never point to the writing stability Yeah, if you watch my streams, I It's very like pulp comic bookie. It's uh, it's not a historical take on mythology Starting to worry that this is the kind of guy who's gonna go like chad kratos from before man He was so cool going around killing everyone This is the section of him being critical By comparing to the other games and how much it falls flat every time you look into like anything He's saying is we got nostalgia goggles like hardcore People miss that the first three games are a greek tragedy like not very good one, but they're a greek video is a greek tragedy I've seen plenty of people say that's why they like them I've seen people say that's why they like the originals and not the new one is because the new one isn't a tragedy It's it ends too positively He doesn't say that They like this one ending pretty positively did like it subverted my expectations. I was like, oh, wow. How about that? and Easy just simple in this that's not really anything the plot hook and this that's not really anything All right. Yeah, real plot. Here's just that Thor and Odin decide to finally show up. I mean that doesn't really There's not You know, it just kind of happens. I guess the stave is damaged and they've noticed atreus looking for tia That's why that happens They kind of say it but it's all right. Oh, yeah, my other complaint is the blades of chaos got nerfed They're too fucking weak. They probably do the same damage as the fists I don't know if this supposed to be an aoe weapon, but they don't have They are an aoe weapon said. I don't know what they're supposed to be an aoe weapon. I are like, I know that they are I haven't even played the game. Obviously they are they go into radius. What are you talking about? They also do a pretty decent amount of damage. I I use the the especially when it's when you have the Immolation Immolation on then you do like the charge up with the ground pound that should deal the fuck ton of damage But yeah, well, I've seen a lot of people take preference for the blades over the axe for damage So it's weird that you say whatever Yeah, maybe you build I guess as well Yeah, I suppose has he talked about like builds and things because in games that I enjoy I really enjoy making different builds and having different play styles So if this game allows you to do that, that's something that I would we're gonna get really interesting commentary on his perspectives It's like how you can take different routes and lock different skills in this game compared to Because this is the thing his thoughts In the video and his thoughts compared to his stream. There's so much stuff He doesn't want you to see which is so fucking Oh But anyway, the purpose of this one by the way was listen to the comparison He has to the original games. It's got nerfed. They're too fucking weak. They probably do the same damage as the fists I don't know if this supposed to be an aoe weapon, but they don't have nearly the range that they did in the original games So it doesn't really make sense They don't have the range they did in the original games like of course They the the the fucking arenas aren't anywhere near as big as in the original games This is completely different would be incongruent with the perspective like that imagine this game You throw the the the blade it goes like fucking five meters forward It's like let's just saw how we're doing it this game at all the enemies It doesn't even make sense like we're talking about enemies that are much closer to you and there's fewer of them I don't know why we would then maintain the exact same dynamic of the old game like when you change You've already acknowledged they've changed the perspective the combat has changed. We've changed all the way that things work Why would the length of the blades of chaos remain? Like it's all gonna have to alter the balance because Smaller they have the same amount of links in the chain. So they should be the same length the distance. Come on Or something by frost attack Heals over time but follow-up hits can detonate if we're extra damage. Oh boy more humans that can kill kratos nido How is it possible? I don't even have a problem with that mechanic like that's a neat mechanic, but why did you give it to Joe normie with mace They came back from galhalla or whatever doesn't know what I know y'all I know y'all are I know y'all that sounds like a that sounds like a pirate Yeah, I was mace War Extreme linearity sometimes it's only when it's too obvious, you know like Again got the old the out of ores were very very linear, but They they had like open zones This is too much too much hallways. It's all hallways This game's open zones are much more open than the original games were As someone who's streamed them all in a row I'm very confused because it sounds like he's talking about ragnarok not God of war three three is borderline a straight path from the beginning Easy to climb up mount olympus till you get to the top and the game hits So yeah, really strange perspective to have drawn Magic kratos having every single battle instead of regaining health as he kills people Well, you had to open up health chests in the original games So what I found interesting about that is like a point for integrity for once He actually like someone who just chats like imagine getting health like after every fight from the floor instead of getting it from killing people But the person commenting of course forgotten the originals you do open health chests at the end of like every fight in the originals how they did it And they full heal you too at least I don't know about the difficulty he was playing on but at least on give me god of war that The health gems give you Almost no health back like you get like maybe 10 Yeah, even on no mercy, uh, they didn't do like a lot So Live Remember in god of war one when you could kill civilians to get health back I mean one day like I do that was one day like the people that you were meant to be helping Yeah, so it's really weird that that was almost referenced as like It was better when we could do that It's one of the most baffling decisions I've ever come across in a game that you are hired to save athens And then you can just run through and kill everyone there and athena doesn't seem to give a shit It's like yeah, no one cares to the point where you can charge your spot and rage and she will tell you that You've charged your spot and rage from the fucking killing my own people Go kill them kill them I really think that that kind of stuff was like a david jaffy sort of edgy ism like he's the guy behind twisted metal And um, like god of war was kind of his Uh, I guess like the last big series that he was responsible for But he's he's always like a edgy humor kind of dude Not done by Thor But there's more I do not care is not the answer It worked out pretty well in the original games This is the natural state of the world you ever hear about these fatal flows It's just Oh, so price Zeus and attempt to kill yourself and fail that that pretty much They got the job done The world stands in ruin like there's nothing about this game that is better than the original god of war Battle the god of war is saying oh, no the world's in ruin. Oh, no, no exactly. Uh, call the job done. I wouldn't say that Everyone's there's no one to war with There is nothing in the newer games that's better than the old It's like the I mean I just feel like really people can see the story is better like come on dude It's the easiest easiest thing to concede I don't know. It's not it's not based enough like it used to be where you could go around killing civilians for health He did it Patrick. We saved the city. We saved Greece No And we both know the place is protecting your child can take you This again the character assassination is pissing me off I got the creation of the other ironically more complex. I think when he was just killing every god Come on, what what do you think the word complexity means? It's priceless People say craters shouldn't be wearing armor forgets he was wearing heavy armor after became god of war Yeah, it was ceremonial though and he immediately lost at the beginning of god of war too He lost it because What it was fucking crushed by the colossus that you yeah, he was wearing it to go into war And whether or not you consider the armor ceremonial Are we just like ignoring the reality that no matter how strong you are armor's gonna be helpful? Oh, yeah That can't hurt really weird comment And I don't know why we would like why shit on the idea that we have armor In terms of just like some other thing that we can take different builds with and You know collect resources with to upgrade at our leisure. Like why why are we like like? Oh, yeah, I'm a boo You play Leonardo He didn't need the armor she saw your face Well, that's because the game decided he didn't need it You can go through 2018 and ragnarok by having the base like clothing armor and then not upgrade it if you want to Can do it. Yeah If you ruin heaven for one mistake or whatever, you don't I have to be who you were just because I'm not there He should be who he was because guess what he was winning when he was the god of war Ruin the world and all the civilians I killed for health potions, but man, I was winning He was winning. I want to remind you That kratos. Well, okay, he didn't do it by himself. He got a bunch of titans from the past to help him but kratos Just time travel grab some titans and then You know, it's just he didn't just he didn't have to fucking gather an army Granny this bullshit He just went the titans an army. I don't like it feels like he counted his own argument He didn't have to gather an army. He just gathered an army People and the fact that he's highlighted he used time travels like yeah, that's a pretty good tool, isn't it? A kind of tool that Imagine what you can do with that. It was easy either like I mean that's that's all I've got a war too. I don't understand What is happening in this brain like Why would you even give the oh the someone doesn't even need to have played the games to have asked the question way he gathered Gathered titans. Is that like was like an army that attacked olympus? He's like, hey remember these people who lost the war. I'm gonna go back and bring them here to fight the war again that's But like the it's not like he had the ability to time travel at the beginning of the game Like that's that was the thing the first berserker fight, which is mandatory by the way We can get to it with your spear. I think this way No, get ready. Get ready Where are you going? It's mandatory Someone's not putting the man in mandatory This ruined my immersion. How did derlin get here? Didn't he have to do that mandatory fight? Yeah Has way too much fucking hell. Oh, yeah, and I was bumped down to normal at this point, too So, uh, they do this a couple times in these games if you feel that you are unprepared for the boss You can indeed fight him later when you have more damage and more ability That is the The obvious response to that when I finally managed to beat him. I think it took me three straight minutes Of dodging and countering the same straight minutes. Good for you that you did it. Good job. Yeah. Yeah. Good job. Hey Props to you. Yeah four attacks over and over again to actually whittle down his health bar It doesn't help that filling the stun meter doesn't give you a free execution type of attack on him There's damage Like a full block of health gets taken away, which is you know, it would cut down that time Different I got to appreciate that a lot in those big boy fights. Oh, yeah They basically just skip the the the part of a stun attack where you have to run up and grapple the guy It's just like you did your grapple damage. There you go. Yeah Opens him up to damage for a few seconds. It just opens him up to damage. Geez, that's a big chunk It's a real see it like it's really you can see it while you're editing Like it's it's really weird to define it that way too. It opens them up to damage Do you mean it hurts him or do you mean that you now have a chance to deal damage? I'm not even sure That's not even what it does it but I mean deals We can see what it does. It's really good That is a hefty amount of health has gone there. Yep For views At least the other berserkers are like um optional boss. It's like in games where like just because Something isn't just doing straight up hit point damage I mean a lot of the times there could be other debuffs and things that you can apply that are better than that It slows them down or it creates vulnerability so that they're so they just they just take flat out more percentage of damage from From damage sources, you know to Hey, you can think a little bit out of the box when it comes to getting your little bonuses for the the break bars here He's almost like he he means he has a chance fight with me a better It's like well, that's not what it it doesn't give you a chance to deal damage. It just deals damage Yeah, it's essentially it it's virtually the same as just doing damage Exactly punish. It is the punish. Yeah. Yeah, it works the way bleed damage does in elden ring and people are like Oh, bleed damage is so broken in elden ring. Well, it's like the broken thing is apparently useless here. I guess I don't know. This is what I mean. Like it's a really weird way to categorize it, but whatever He seems to have uh better understood it the time went on Gear He once again says like the problem is at least the other berserkers are end game Optional bosses that you can come back and fight when you have better gear This one is too That gravestone is a keyhole that looks to fit the hilt you found And if i'm right Blue icon there. Where are you going? Absolutely They intentionally designed this first one to take this long to kill with only four fucking attacks No, you can do whatever you want How embarrassing look. He just caught it right away. Just gotta stay away from it. Don't you press that second button? Well, you guys you think that this is a point against him But all this really does is it shows how much of a chad he is He sees a challenge and he attacks it head-on He doesn't do any of that pussy footing around with thinking and strategizing and came no and come back later There's a challenge that needs to be overcome and dammit. He's going to do it now I I guess good on him for sticking it out and beating the boss that like the end game boss that he decided to fight The second he came across it on the critical path That's worth while So because i'm feeling charitable at the moment I will start with the more reasonable issues that were brought up with the video and then get to the less reasonable one not not the um Not the reasonable issues like the actual factual inaccuracies though, but the that is the reasonable ones to put it lightly Probably the most reasonable criticism of my video is the simple factual inaccuracy I made around the first berserker boss battle. It is not in fact mandatory. You can actually just walk right past it Yeah, so why did I it's kind of odd that you thought it's really weird because marker there the marker Means it's optional. Yeah, say that you thought it was mandatory. You you just saw it. You did it Just say that You're suggesting that all he has to do is own the l and it's almost like you're aware that he's not going to do that That's weird He seems reasonable Did own it. Okay. I guess that's more never mind. It was mandatory. Well A few reasons one my brain was completely fried at this point in the stream This is about 20 hours into the game and I was so Unbelievably bored by the game that I had trouble paying attention a lot of the time So when you come across this fight, it is literally on your linear been more correct Yeah, I was wrong because I wasn't giving the game the time it deserves as a piece of media to then review it But all right, that's good. You're own in the l. We can move on that path to the end of the level It is right before the end of the second. It's got a marker. See look right there It's option marker. Well, that's why I asked anyone know if he's colorblind. So like that might actually be Maybe yeah, oh, he's the maybe that'll be his next option. Yeah Doesn't even matter though. It's got a different symbol It's a different symbol the path has a different symbol to the the optional stuff Yeah, I'll find visit Rados and Freya comment on this boss battle right in front of you No, they don't yeah, they comment on a lot of things though Mamiya is the only one that comments on it But he his comment is right if you want to activate it you've got a challenge ahead of you That's all the most clear. This is side content dialogue that I've ever seen Yeah, all like Freya says is she says this is like an alternate path If you use your spear over there or something as you arrive, so I don't know why he's saying this Well, it's just Mamiya does that a lot like oh, there's something we could do Oh, how about we try that like just because he comments on something doesn't mean that you have to do it In fact the game signposts pretty clearly what is and isn't optional Yeah, if anything they go a little hard on telling them I might even be You're going to do this if you want It was mandatory Then the rest matters little Look out for them comments right here overlooking the bay We can get to it with your spear I think Oh, yeah, so when both Kratos and Freya comment on this boss battle right in front of you That made it seem like it was mandatory like just Just so you thought it was mandatory it wasn't move on it's actually not a big deal It's not a big deal. Yeah Thanks for mate. You best prepare for a fight Big guy Now obviously in my brain I must have hallucinated the main objective marker over it because clearly it's not there But it is in fact optional. You can just walk right past it. So here's the question Does this actually matter not really no it doesn't take away from any of my other points about the boss battle At least the other berserkers are end game optional bosses that you can come back and fight when you have better gear How it's a very obvious difficulty spike and no it doesn't matter that it's optional because it's placed directly You're running away from that now. It's like it's okay, buddy. I forgive you and you spat in the space and run off It doesn't matter it's optional It doesn't matter that you can get way stronger to come back and Absolutely shit on that boss. If you do it later with better gear and everything It doesn't matter. Please in front of you. How many people are gonna fight this boss and then just quit and leave I would hope nobody myself. I don't but when I played this It was pretty clear to me that this was optional and I chose to fight him Anyway, because I wanted to I'm pretty sure you me and mel all decided we can do this later, but we're gonna take him Yeah I couldn't beat him now and returned later Well, so you did the thing that happens in other instances, right? Where you start bossing like oh, I don't know actually. I don't know if I'm ready for this It's just pretty standard ways of conveying information to players in a video game You know how easy or difficult is it and if it's optional you can be like Do I want to try this like kind of like when I fought the uh, the big monster in the desert in uh, Alfheim like that was probably beyond what I was ready for but I felt like doing it It's not like the game's fault, right Games do this sort of thing all of the time Yeah, mm-hmm all the comments I saw about me having a skill issue or mad coz bad or whatever Stupid zoomer gotcha variation Okay See like all you had to do was be like, yeah, I was wrong Yeah, and then you draw it out into like a whole minute of explaining that why you were wrong And it doesn't even matter that you were because I was right anyway because Well, that's why I was saying like the charitable interpretation From his perspective should be like, yeah, I I fucked up and didn't realize it was an optional boss But I beat him anyway. So I fucked back with that berserker. I guess I actually beat the boss without quitting placing an optional super boss right in front of the player Means that you're expected to be able to take him at this point. No, not necessarily No, I mean, yeah, you did you did that's so actually doesn't even matter Why are we talking about it? Are you just concerned that the lesser of us won't be able to if what he means is If what he means is the devs are saying Take him now like we we expect that you can take him now It's like well, so you you can it's just tougher than any of the typical fights you're having The big old boss. Yeah, because it's still an endgame boss It's one that you might be able to handle at this point in the game, but you know, give it a shot Right, you know, however, this is how it worked in the 2018 game. If you're feeling like this is too much You can come back later That's the whole point of it being optional. Yes My issues with the boss have not changed whether or not he's optional. Yes, they have He has too much health for you to deal with your your claim was that it was a big difficulty spike But if it's optional It's not as if you just come back to it later This berserker in particular too has pretty Pretty reliable patterns. Like it's not a hard one to read once you he's kind of the tutorial for the berserkers in a way Because um, when you eventually beat the king of the berserkers and going back to this guy He'd be like, oh, this guy was fucking simple compared and that that's not a criticism of anyone's Uh skill. It's just me trying to point out like this is the starter guy Yeah, and I mean I took a while on him, but I I by the time I got to the end of it I was like, oh, okay. Once I once I learned the patterns. I was like, this actually isn't that hard I was just not it wasn't coming together in my brain at first and then when it did you're like, okay, cool He has too much health and too small a moveset given how much healthy is for what point in the game You're expected to fight him one of the things too is you have view of a game that And you go into the mechanics of a very it seems to be mechanically pretty robust game spending this much time on one boss Seems odd. I guess this really bothered him or got to him in some way. It does have that kind of impression Yeah, yeah, instead of making a lot of stuff about like you can make different builds And you have these different weapons and here's how movement feels and here's are some issues here and there That's that's a dove, but I don't I don't get that It's the No, go go for it. I was gonna say it's the video essayist special where he's just he describes things Occasionally gets hung up on a specific case study, but other than that just there's no analysis to be found You're right It's not much of a breakdown at all like a lot of the things that are not to be disagreed with are just descriptions of mechanics Rather than of the mechanics Like when he was talking about how he liked the combat you just said here's a bunch of stuff that's in it Yeah, that you can juggle and you can there's different like alt attacks with weapons nothing about what makes them good or bad Yeah, here's why I like them not even that Not even Action adventure whatever's so good if you can juggle or like they're bad if you The comparison to make would be how long was mathematosis video on 2018 like 45 something minutes Yeah, like yeah, I used him as inspiration. I beg you like Yes Of substantive criticisms of of the mechanics. Yes My issues with a few bosses in particular I'd say overall I had fun with the combat when I actually was allowed to fight enemies Now when you were allowed to fight enemies, what do you mean talking about like cutscenes and walking around? Oh, fuck off This game was full of gameplay. Yeah, actually fuck off Interesting he says that does have some flaws Just like everything has flaws So I'll just bring up the few that I think are significant enough to drag down the experience The first issue I'll get into is the enemy variety as this was something the developers actually praised about this game And it feels completely unearned because guess what they reused almost every enemy type from the first game And I mean exact same Right. So is the is the criticism that they reused old enemies while also adding in a bunch of new ones. Yes Yes, um, I mean more games would do this. Fuck that Yeah, I mean the enemies that you already have that you've already designed and in universe They would continue to exist. So there's really like Yeah, there's nothing stopping you from doing this Uh, at least if you had god of war And then you brought out a game called like, you know Battle of the heroes and it takes place across sci-fi galaxies and stuff and then this troll turns up in that game You're like, oh, they used assets from god of war to try and fill in for their You know, I could see I could understand the argument better But then like the trolls are turning up in this game when they were in the first game It's like, yeah, did credo single-handedly wipe them all out last time So based troll genocide. Yes. The question comes up of just oh wait, so what do you think of dead space? What do you think of like, what do you think of uh Ratchet and clank Yeah, like this god of war original trilogy. They reuse. What do you think of mario? Yeah The reuse criticism is real and this is just not how you do it. It's deeper than this It's not just a thing that was there before therefore bad because that's good practice You want to make use of as many assets you had before as you can Variety is very important It's the reason I introduced it at the beginning but zero needs coffee is the one that we're seeing responses from And he's gonna he's gonna give it a shot. So let's see what happens animations and attacks Oh my god, the game takes place in the same world as the last game It's gonna have some of the same enemies. Okay. This is how I know this guy's a retard. You just Oh, let me know. Let me know. How is he a retard? Is this not a wild ride? Yeah This individual is something else argued that I don't know how video games work And then you just made a meta argument for why in universe the same enemies. It's not a meta argument No, yeah, you're in universe Yeah, you've actually got it totally backwards the claim was in universe It's the same enemies and you're like that's a meta argument. It's not it's not the opposite of a meta argument For instance, it would be like if we're talking about dead space too, and then you were like wow necromorphs again. It's like, yeah Yeah another marker Would appear you're I'm just gonna say it. I don't care if I get in trouble for mocking you. You deserve to be mocked Okay Like you're gonna say much of it. It's like pretty hard for an oddly reasonable statement. All right, but no, okay I don't understand like that's got to be the most common response to the idea It's like why am I seeing enemies in this game? Just the ones that were in the previous game is like same universe Like wow, what a crazy meta argument. It's like Brothers who set the standard form it's like what do you want? What do you want people to say? I don't know It would be like why didn't the old god of war games reuse every enemy type then They didn't use every enemy type, but 2018 doesn't have every enemy type or a thing coming back Obviously, it doesn't because there's people you've killed. There's literal individuals You've killed in god of war 2018 that can't return in god of war ragnarok. So Do the old games reuse enemies if oh, definitely Oh One of those common foot soldier guys you you see again and again, but like the The minotaurs they always come back the Oh, yeah, the dozer in some form. Yeah, gorgons always come back or gorgons. Yeah. Yeah. This isn't This is what I'm kind of baffled by it's like I like seeing them routine. I'm like, oh, I'm familiar with these guys I know they work. They are this dynamism new weapons too, right? This guy would explode if he saw a monster hunter where people are like cheering because the monster they like from the previous game Exactly So if the criticism is in fact they reused every Every enemy I'd be like, oh, I don't think they used reused every one But I don't know like as long as they contextualize I don't mind it because that's a whole set of mechanics that come with the individual And that just you know, why waste them exactly? It gives me more enemy variety in a game enemy variety is arguably more important than your own weapon variety So yeah, do it expand the world make it feel like a proper sequel where I go Oh, yeah, the things from the last game and all of these new things. We're we're clearly building off foundations here Jumping off from the prior thing as if it was some kind of sequel And just like taking a look at alpha only a sequel if you interpret it as a sequel That is true You you go back to alfheim and honestly, I hated fighting the dark elves in 2018 So the second we started heading back to alfheim. I'm like, oh I do. I find the darkness that is they even have blind status like Oh More wise though, like that's the thing the the light elves have kind of Taken over that area and now you're you are in the same area, but you are fighting different enemies So they didn't take the lazy right You reach loads of the light crystals and then there's a there's an attack outside When you reach outside of the dark elves like a fortune attack So yeah, there's more than fine with me for them to return at that point. I wouldn't go. Oh my god These guys are back Yeah, the second I saw them again. I was like, oh no, I thought I was safe It was it would have the same enemies, right? Because it's fucking lazy. It makes the game feel like the last game Have you never played a sequel in your life? It's so weird he has footage of dead space on the screen space I don't know what to say man. It's it dead space absolutely reincorporates enemies from old games. It's Here's a challenge. What sequel does not? A super mario brothers 2, but it's kind of not Wait, they don't have goombas in super mario 2? No, it's because it's not it's not really a mario brothers 2 Yeah, it's not technically super super mario brothers 3 would be The Japanese game called doki-doki panic, but uh, okay, okay, well So really it's one and three are the ones that you would compare in terms of sequence Of course the hilarity is that you're having to reference something very unique If I have to go to japan so something makes sense then the madness. It's not don't even don't even So what a weird fucking take on gaming, but all right and to say that you haven't played video games If you have that observation that that sequels tend to use or incorporate old enemies It's just pretty common It is almost ubiquitous Like it's yeah No enemies with quake one, but quake two is also originally developed as a game called war and then they decided It'll sell better if we just isn't interesting, right? Yeah, the example. Do you have with that totally? Well, if you look at development, it was totally different like, you know, everything was different at some stage Rags are you asking would there be a reason for there to be quake one enemies and quake two? Yeah, would there be because I I can't remember much about quake two Well, I mean quake two deals with a an alien race that's kind of similar to the borg where they they take Organic organisms and then make them cyborgs that the bad kind of cyborgs Though not the ones like me whereas quake one is like a lovecraftian kind of interdimensional portal stuff So I guess they could combine them, but it would involve a lot of a lot of work Like it they don't really make sense the developers don't reuse assets for sequels Especially well, I know By the way calling them lazy like sorry dude like I don't know what to tell you It's pretty clear that everybody works very hard on ragnarok. Absolutely Um people need to be careful when they do the whole game devs a lazy thing. It's like man Video game development is hard. Like it just is There's also a lot of fucking new enemies. Oh, yeah, that's the part of time Additional enemy diversity seems to have been an emphasis in this game because it was criticism of the prior game I was shocked when they got it I was like, I don't know how many hours and it's like, oh another new enemy another new enemy It's like geez they really took that so hard, huh? I think it's really as I forget who pointed it out But the I mean because we all know it but the irony of using dead space footage over making this point is It's the biggest self-own That I could imagine then say you have a play video. It's like, what are you just when mac dumping his own foot? It's the absolute state of gamers, dude This is why I have no respect for anyone who buys and plays modern games and actually enjoys them He's playing modern games Modern he's modern games have ever made a modem. I don't know It's really good ones. You you fail if you enjoy them. It's not even about considering them good. It's enjoying them enjoying them Geez, this guy. This guy is good. I enjoy it as well Well, then you're wrong No, maybe have all new enemies don't reuse any like literally don't Use any enemies. It's just more variety. Wait, wait, wait, just just all of you hold on this this All right, okay. Let him get to the edge. He's got he has opinions. I can't get worse. That'd be a good idea What's bad about reducing enemies? Oh, why is that a problem? I don't know, dude. How about you just stop sharing your shitty opinion. There's an idea There is an idea consider your opinion rebutted thoroughly. I like where this idea is going stop sharing your shitty opinion. Yeah Oh, wow. Yeah Yep. Yeah Executions too and oh, I could talk about the executions and how almost all of them are lacking any sort of gore You stopped on the wolf, which is one of the most Well-noticed battle the weasley little lyre cut the gore off the wall He did that execution. I was like, uh, still gross Every single time we get a classic montage going. Oh, I love a montage Oh Because they're scared of gore they're absolutely scared Are they? Yeah, in his footage, he was just about to show the the wolven It would make his point look kind of not right at all Weasley Weasley modern game They've cut the gore. They've cut the gore. No gore gore doesn't exist in modern games It's pretty crazy that he says this when the likes of like Mortal Kombat 11, obviously this game doom I mean for our Callisto protocols faults, it's like the death animations in it are pretty brutal I do not I do not know why he tried to pull this How could he say this? You don't even you don't have to caricature like the AAA industry to try and criticize it But he's just invented an alternative version of it and then he's like, yeah, this sucks when it's not representative of anything Crop this game up as like indicative of that when you have to ignore How is this? Like what? No real gore from this rated M This is about as rated M as the halo games are these days By the way was a big complaint about new halo is that it was Down on the blood hardcore to get a t-14 writing rather than the mature writing that the old games had This game doesn't give a shit about that Because they're scared of gore Gore modern gaming is so scared of gore Band in australia Executions too and oh I could talk about the executions and how almost all of them were Which yes, the last game also did it just seems like modern games in general are scared of gore for one reason or another This game is rated M opinion. I don't know. It's not how do you actually think this This is one of the things when I have to playing the game and listing this like I'm sorry. What like Some things I was Guys if you some people in chat watch my stream whenever I like use the weaponry and it just popped heads or torso off I would be like Like I don't I didn't forget those things happened. So it's just like I don't know this is weird M So what's the fucking funny fanboy? The death kills or sorry the the god kills are not nearly as elaborate as they were in the previous ones Like even when heimdall was choked like strangled as opposed to like anything being torn off him or something My reaction was kind of like, oh, I mean, yeah, I guess he did lose the arm You know what's crazy about that it's because of the difficulty I was playing on There's a whole other phase of the fight after his arm gets blown off So I it's not that I'd forgotten it, but it wasn't fresh in my mind. It felt like a long time ago But um, isn't that in all the difficulties where he gets a magic arm? Yeah, yeah, but it's just because I spent so much time dying and retrying the next phase before I actually beat it It uh, a lot of between those that again, that's a it's a me problem. Mm-hmm. I gotta kill issue Yeah, skill issue be as honest as human. It's pretty much the only policy I've stuck to Don't wear that shirt. Why that would be anyone who is invested in telling you how honest they are like this, you know I don't know. I guess this is supposed to be satisfying, but it's really not Probably because it's no gore Stop wheeze is alerted Go off and to get back to the enemy variety I feel like a lot of the new enemy types are just kind of lame Like generic viking raiders on midgard or the asgard warriors, which are all zombies The frog enemies that surprisingly show up in like three different realms I mean like if you want to describe them in the most reductive way possible, then yeah, I guess they aren't very interesting He hasn't even said anything wrong with them. Yeah, he's just It would be like if I said yeah, the problem with dead space is the lack of enemy variety in the design They're all just fleshy monsters. Yeah, like this is this fleshy arm, dude And you know, I hate arms Oh, yeah, I can't respond to this until he makes an argument Just dating what they know That aren't lame visually anyway are actually very annoying to fight like the new light elf variant That's a samurai or the asgard warrior who has a bifrost pick in a hammer These motherfuckers can attack at lightning speed and have unblockable moves or moves you have to parry I so like just they believe the unblockable moves are like inherently bad. I don't know If that's what the button is for you use that one So many games do this shit, dude Yeah, unblockable attacks are really important A game can use them for a variety of reasons if the developer wants to get the player to do something Or engage in different mechanics or move to a location. It's a really good way to do that He's practically wiped out loads of enemies by saying like oh these fuckers with their unblockable moves and their speed A sped up move like a lot of enemies come with faster moves that do less damage. Just I need more. What are you telling video games because the thing is we we have something here that We actually complained about is like the the hyper armor thingy when you don't really know When it happens sometimes. Yeah, but sometimes it does apparently. There's like a little little symbol in the boss in the boss section where It shows up when they get hyper armor apparently. I don't know how consistent that one was I felt wasn't super consistent Well, funny enough. He complains about hyper armor at some point is one of the things I agree with But it's more so the inconsistency not the presence. I'm fine. Yeah, exactly existing I just want to know when it will be there a while Yeah, yeah pretty much And can dodge out of the middle of combos shit like that that just makes them not very fun to engage with unless you're spamming runic attacks And for my last problem Because enemy types in all action games are like this all action games have enemies that can dodge out of your combos All of them have enemies with unblockable attacks or whatever Is it the styres satires whatever the in in the original trilogy? They always run away from you once you've done enough But like I say this as if it's a badly designed thing. It's like it's not though enemies shouldn't just Sit there and take everything you have Because like that's just gonna make it super really easy, right? It's not gonna be like the problem. Yeah They say tires. Is it satyrs? Satyrs. There you go. I never remember. It's major of the combat. Let's talk about hard mode somewhat briefly It's tempting as it is to talk about this in length because you unfortunately the middle of five guys We'll see that in context. Don't you worry. This part's gonna get real interesting played about two thirds of the game on Hard mode or give me no mercy. It's a waste of time because most people will never play it on hard You're in luck. Why would you say that? Metal did and mark He's the coolest video game player there ever was metal. It's just not everybody's as based as he is to play it on hard mode Oh, how would you even feel confident enough to even beat that berserker on hard? And he didn't his experience is so bizarre because he spent like more than half the game judging it For uh being on normal difficulty, but he didn't realize he it still hadn't switched. Uh normal. He was still on hard Um and to give him the benefit of the doubt He switches it too hard and then he never checks throughout the rest of it But it didn't switch like apparently it's something that can bug sometimes. Oh, okay interesting No, I think what that is is if you switch the difficulty and then Reload a save it will reload whatever difficulty was set when you made that save. Oh Because it was doing the same thing to me when I was trying to get some footage of the previous game Or no, wait. Oh, yeah, I think it was yeah No, it wasn't the previous game and it was doing the same thing because I was on give me god of war I was like, I just want to get a clip of this thing for a video I'm making switch it back down to normal and then notice I was getting rocked and I'm like Why is this game still so hard and it's because it didn't work Okay Anyway, let's see what he says To me it's a mistake isn't your thinking most people would think oh the enemies just do too much damage Or they have too much hell. Well, I didn't find out what the real problem was until about 15 to 20 hours in Because originally I did turn down the difficulty from hard to normal just a few hours into the game But it turns out there's a bug where sometimes your difficulty change will not save even after the checkpoint restart So I actually ended up playing the game on hard for about eight more hours Until I finally decided to check it again after dying really quickly to neithog Isn't that really indicative that you could change the difficulty and not even think to check again for eight hours It's uh, it's it's really all because nothing changes and he doesn't notice Yeah, you think that's pretty based Such a good player he didn't even know that he wasn't playing on normal Wow Sometimes I wonder if like the difficulty is bugged or something like I never actually left hard mode. Let me just double check Wait what wait a minute what? Wait a minute guys I've been on hard mode the whole time Unfortunately, I let chat vote on whether or not I should stay on hard So I still ended up playing on hard all the way up until that first berserker fight And after a few more combat encounters, I finally figured out what hard mode really does It gives every enemy in the game super armor So I already know that's not true because not every enemy in the game has super armor and I played it on hard That's not true. You can see it in his footage that that's not true. Um, yeah, he's but normally that like yeah It does the things you expect enemies do more damage doesn't match his points Yeah, enemies do more damage and have more health when you boost from normal to hard. That's not surprising Yeah, that's that's usually uh done Um, but obviously they change a couple of other things like hyper armor, which I'm assuming hyper armor is is more common when you boost it to the higher difficulties I haven't actually tested it, but it's weird to say like all enemies have hyper armor on hard when I played it on hard And I was like, oh, they definitely didn't It's literally watching him hit stun enemies right now. Yeah So yes basic enemy types To my original recording for this combat section was actually much more negative than this Because I was very annoyed by the fact that every single enemy would either Dodge out of the middle of your combo. Yet normal enemies should be able to do that There's a reason they can do that Oh, is he not he's not talking about them getting like one of the elemental shield armor things that you have to break He'll do like attack attack attack and eventually they will be able to get away from him And it's like he's saying that the enemies are more powerful I don't this is what I mean. I don't understand the complaint. This seems very normal to me Or attack straight through the motherfucking god of wars Act swings to the chest I just figured it was a normal gameplay mechanic that only heavy attacks and runic attacks would actually stun the enemy Because you see this footage doesn't match at all what he's saying. He got attacked from behind and he's like Motherfucking god of war I don't think I've ever encountered a hard mode that introduces super armor. What a horrible fucking idea That said there was that's not inherently a bad idea I could see it easily being a bad idea, but it's not inherently one Implementation was one upside to playing the game on hard and then later on normal That being the realization the enemies have way too much health even on normal mode What the hell were you thinking that every single enemy in the game takes at least six hits to kill from the motherfucking god of war Please stop saying If you have an insane difficulty Then i'm gonna pick hard. I'm not gonna pick you know pussy as normal Criticisms quote unquote that would open my channel to if I played games on game journalist difficulty Playing on hard just removes one more thing that people can take away from my videos. The funny thing is You're okay to play it on normal mode and then judge normal mode. That's fine Yeah, it's when you play on hard and then stomach and claims about it that are inaccurate. That's what you get a problem Not ever I guess I'll just this will be yet another criticism of this 10 out of 10 game of the year game Not that I didn't have plenty of criticisms for uh uh for uh, isn't he like This is like right at the beginning of the game Yeah, he didn't like he felt the enemies way too spongy, but we'll have more comments on that in a sack Hang on which unfortunately is probably Probably gonna be game of the year if you have an insane difficulty then i'm gonna pick hard. I'm not gonna pick You can get all the right. What's the third one? I want a cheat Now this is my section of let's check him out for gameplay Let's let's get a real good grip on what it was like to watch him play this game I suffered and now you guys have to suffer. No Give me. Oh, let me guess it's here. God damn it. I wasn't paying attention chat. Feel free to give me the location of the third Spinny thing. I'm free for chat to cheat for me if they want. That'd be fine by me Why would I go on youtube? I'm not cheating on stream. I I did that annoys me when people even suggest you like this I don't You also asking your audience is fine, but checking it on youtube isn't what's the difference It was the most reasonable fucking response ever Why rely on a chat like attempts to tell you instead of just getting the answer directly and honestly from these like because I don't want to cheat like He's trying to combine two different fucking personas and it's really not working Like he's the I don't I'm the cool hardcore gamer who plays every game on the hard mode and I'm not a games journalist I'm like good and stuff Then he's combining that with the this is the sony game and it's bad and I don't have to pay any attention to it It's soy and yeah all of that stuff and as it turns out those things don't overlap too well Because you start saying really dumb shit I fucking hate he can arbitrarily decide if the second hit in his combo Is is unblockable. It is so fucking awful. Yeah Yeah, the red circle that's what the red circle is for. Yeah, so the idea is You'll attack and then do an unblockable or attack attack and do an unblockable or attack attack do a block breaker Then an unblockable you get a whole variety of choices in terms of his his dice roll So to speak of what he's going to attack you with you have to pay attention to whether or not it's a neutral Or it's a yellow or it's a red that that's that's the idea This is extremely basic stuff. This is video games But wait wait hold on hold on. He's played. He's probably played. Okay, first off. It's cringe to really are Secondly, he's probably played way more games than all of us combined So really I don't see why you would disagree with him as the authority on video games Um, and I uh, I can explain why this happened It's it's similar to a lot of people who played this game The hateful is one of the harder ones that this sort of trend starts with this game isn't the same as 2018 2018 will often give you the same sort of attack combos Reliably, but this game starts switching them up a lot more which I I prefer I think better Listen to what happens in this game is the evolution enemies have like a It's not random, but they have different sets of attack patterns. Yeah They're following in from soft footsteps more or less pretty much. Yeah. Yeah, it's not random It's just not the same thing every fucking time, you know, someone might say as a criticism I also have to memorize it. It's like no no no just keep an eye on the the yellow the red Yellow and the red they tell you everything you need to know pixelating at one second Pay attention to the Try to try to eat my dick think of if I died I'm not playing this game uneasy. You out of your mind I guarantee the only person easy mode because they knew all the game journalists and the developers played on easy mode, too They all suck Yeah, whatever fuck. Yeah. Yeah, you didn't play justice. Fuck you. You did. I don't believe it I need to get an upgrade that just makes all the attacks freeze guys or something because That sounds like a really useful Do the thing I want to do. There's too many buttons too many buttons. Okay You're about to get onslaughted with some some stuff that just makes you wonder like Fuck In terms of let me tell you about a little game called the armor. Yeah, I A game takes 20 20 hits to kill an enemy as the best combat. Yeah. Yeah, so that's the claim It takes way too long to kill enemies. Like, okay. All right, cool Now, let's see how he plays the game and that's another thing too. Do anything different or experiment. You're punished Dude, this is too many moves. I'm gonna forget some of this. That uh, they want you to combo the blades and the axe. That's stupid I'll play it again, but he's Simple skills are like they're it's so clear that yes, this is the skills Specifically exist to encourage you to switch between the fire that right, which is great By the way, we need more encouragement to use more of our weapons in games. That's a really good idea It's good. It is actually really good to the point where chat were like encouraging me. It's like you should really use it I was like, okay, and then I started actually knocking if you remember there was a berserker fight I was dealing with metal. I think you were in the chat for this one With my opening set of attacks where I would laser him with the frost laser to stack up the frost and then switch to blades And just knock him down a whole like It's a it's a strategy. It's good. It causes damage. You should be aware of this I would have entire runs at at specific bosses where I just say, okay I'm gonna I'm gonna try to primarily use the spear like use the spear as the main weapon on this guy And not really worry about elemental things. Maybe just switch to the blades and the axe for my my runic attacks But then that starts to not work. And then maybe you think, okay I'm gonna focus on stacking elemental statuses and swatching the swiping the Switching between them on the fly in order to get a lot of bonus damage from that and it's really fun to kind of Play around with that, right? Sounds like a lot of work my dude. Well, what's crazy though is that's one of the optional skills on both weapons You don't have to do that. You could just yeah You do more damage when when just just the enemy is frosted or something after he told you about the sponginess Just appreciate these clips. They're so glorious 20 hits to kill an enemy as the best combat Yeah, yeah, and that's another thing to do anything different or experiment you're punished dude. This is too many boots I'm gonna forget some of these Uh, they want you to combo the blades and the axe. That's stupid Or why the ice axe does more if you do the burning first no one's ever doing that shit No one's ever Comboing their weapons. No one's playing on hard The way that I play is how everyone's gonna play which is an interesting opinion to have Helping himself as having never played an action game before he's like If you're not going to engage with the mechanics when they're displayed as saying deals more damage And then you say like, oh the enemies are too spongy. It's like you got to use the damage moves You just want all games to be the same or you just hit a button Over and over Just never played a pro correction. It's just see even with me like max damaging that took like a shit ton You're not max damaging I'm gonna forget some of these I wasn't paying attention No, that's my fault. Not the game's fault. Correct. It's my fault. It is you're not engaging with the mechanics I don't know what to say He's it above the wheel. What do you? He's stroking your you've never been able to freeze water. You couldn't touch You have never been able to freeze what he can touch. This is bullshitting. You have to start doing that Even I remember that. I don't understand this criticism. One of the first things you do in scottohyme. It's just wrong Yeah, it's one of them. Yeah, um, but he's very angry as he may be being touched with they can't be directly You can touch that water directly With the axe. Yeah, I'm just trying to make sense of this somehow, but yeah, never mind Butterfuck the game literally I have thrown It at shit that doesn't freeze. This is so There is lots of stuff that doesn't freeze when you throw it. That is true. In fact, 1990 Yeah, that's lost majority of the well. Yeah Shit. No, that's not an L. That's I'm I want to I'm not owned. I'm not owned That's that's a bundle of sticks is what that is. What I don't I don't even know I don't understand it But the only play in this playbook like any other material in there Motherfucker these guys are dude. No, they didn't It was that it was It was to your right you ignored it and it killed you what yeah, that's just that's just positioning is super important I don't know what you ignored it Even when you ignored it That was a red marker right there for like three seconds telling you that you're about to get attacked You'd go to town on the camera in this game, but that one is not on the camera Yeah, you had the information you didn't use it They did sit on easy for the journalist even has the red in it. This is a fucking bullshit You're oh, so that's a cell phone. I want to take you seriously ever again on any video Yeah, just resist every move you dick And jump backward why did you use You see that you could just jump backward at any time The enemy can have an investment in its own existence and survival A load of horse shit die. That's the only reason you're here. I was playing doc So it's the other day in this hollow. It started running towards me like what they can do that. So don't just move This yeah, just resist every move you dick And jump backward you see that you could just already back there I think people just say it's shitty because they're bad at it All right, these goals do am I getting something out of this? Oh, I'm getting exp. Okay. Check this out. Oh I should probably check skills. How much exp I got 8,000. Yeah, I thought That is a lot Actually, he could buy an alpine two three four five probably seven of those Yeah, definitely the first one in the first row. They're like 250 or 500 depending on Yeah, he still hasn't he still hasn't done the one for extra damage on burning enemies. That's the top one If you look at reyes has got 3,500. He hasn't spent any of that. Remember the game needs to start him with everything He wants more abilities and he hates that he's not dealing damage yet. He hasn't sped any of his fucking exp to get skills What are you doing? I think he thinks the game's a lot more simple than it is mechanically That's my assumption. I think he's more simple than we think mechanically. Well, he is a synth Oh a synth for hoof. That's so obvious. Well, how did I miss that? How did you don't think attention an upgrade button mother screen the auto targeting is pissing me off I know I can lock on but I don't know What what do you mean? What is what are your thoughts when you say these words? Well Nearly nearly went into the steel man, but well Yeah, I know I know I know you're listening to this and you're thinking I'm so glad we were linked this review is one of the good ones People just say it's He dodged it good job. Yeah, there you go. We're doing it can be done But he plays like a fucking Um, you're supposed to move away. You're meant to move away You just saw how it works because because the silent rage the sought rage is worse than the loud rage And and and some retard is gonna be like that's me. Skill issue. Skill issue Skill issue He's very clearly broadcasting skill issue I'm not gonna cheese him, but I want to see if you can now you can't cheese them. They thought of that Look, you can't even hurt me. I thought they didn't play test the game. I didn't play test it. So I don't know how they How come I can't cheese it weird. I just I had Yeah, why don't they just make a fucking bullshit game over as a village? I'm on literally every gonna be in the game The damn she calls with those two accents were on bad hateful when we started the fight Skill issue Why does the dude I locked on to this guy How many times the whole buffing fire thing definition of insanity the buffing fire thing is stupid Oh, I get it stupid because it killed him and he's based Yeah, but it kills him when I base that it must be bad It is prescriptively stupid. Absolutely. It's fucking stupid. This is a bad boss. It's just a bad boss I think people just say it's shitty because they're bad at it It's hard mode, but the funny thing is there's a difficulty above this. There is a difficulty above this I think Using hard mode as an excuse. I got through it. It's not it's not a good excuse when it's not even I don't know if something's hard and you say that it's on a hard mode. It does seem to fit the bill a little bit He's saying like because there's a more difficulty hard air mode You can't say hard mode is supposed to be hard because there's another one above it It's like the mode is called. Give me no mercy. No mercy. Yeah What is happening? You know the absolute state of gamers No, right, especially when in a lot of modern games hard is the new normal. Obviously not for this though Is it? Do you already said? Obviously not for this Especially when that's like it's often that you play hard and that's actually normal, but I mean oh, but not this one It's like what is the point of this? Even though this is meant to be one of these modern games one of these modern zuma lame games Exactly. I guess it's easy for the journalist difficulty Like why are you targeting zoomers when you're like, uh, yeah zoomers love the sony game. Yeah, for sure Yeah, we all know those zoomers. They're called snowy games. All right. Sorry the snowy games Yeah, zuma is known for being like playing the fortnight and the energetic games and that sort of thing and Remember there was a recent commentary That a lot of a lot of zuma gamers are playing like modern warfare 2 the new one as though We're like an arena shooter because they're not even familiar with arena shooters as a genre But they still want that fast twitchy gameplay. No, I'm sure they'll go and play the long drawn out fucking story game making you quit gamered So someone said this mad alone is an entire gadel. It's like, yes That is correct made a bad check point again Just kill me. I'm restarting checkpoint yet Because let me get let me just pull out my notes. Let me pull out my notes I'm gonna write down all of the let me just memorize. Okay, so let's get this straight one He could do a random unblockable as a second of a combo random unblockable input read and cancel his three hit combo I Turn out lightly and he said he can cancel his three hits like none of the enemies cancel their combos from my memory They go They do them and you interrupt them or they do them and they they hyper armor through. There's no enemy canceling. I don't know anybody Next point, uh, he buffs himself and if you hit him, he explodes for no reason. Yeah, you can Oh, you're fucking And then throw the axe Hey, he's gonna blow up soon run away That's the reason you need to back up. That's that's why it happens once and you go. Oh shit. I shouldn't do that again Yeah, avoid it in the future. Hey, that's all I learned. That's like, hey, why did he explode? It's like, oh He charges up. I better back the fuck up and throw a spear on my axe at the fucker I don't know Input reading there is so much to criticize What is this and so you have to throw him with the ice axe at him. I wasn't paying attention No, that's my fault. Not the aim's fault. Correct. Seems that way. I'm taking the same thing over and over maybe To get his meter up Okay, go get what? Oh my god, it's Wait, wait for what he says. He's he's priceless. It's pointless. His stun meter is pointless Dude, you're looking at the bar Okay, that's another one for the bullshit list. The stun meter doesn't work on this boss It doesn't do a a move. Are you fucking joking? It's like with the boss health bar is located at the top of the sky. I don't even know who he is Good job. Getting him to max gun has lost his health. This is the thing. He's he's missed the crucial detail of when you get those attacks, right? So there are lots of enemies in the God of War franchise. You get those attacks. You just hurt them You don't kill them, right? What does it do when you hurt them? It lowers their health bark pointed this out earlier They're skipping the animation. They give you the damage. Yeah Now you can say like, oh, that's lazy. They didn't make an animation for it or something It's like, okay. That's that's something you can say if you really want to but everything is the same functionally Yeah, mechanically it yeah, and honestly like it keeps me from losing my rhythm in the boss fight So I that's what that would be one of my arguments in favor of this Yeah, you might get bored of just seeing the same animation over and over again. It's like Yeah, set piece cutscene attack things like that need to be really well designed so as to not disrupt the flow of what you're doing Generally, they need to err on the shorter side so that you're not stuck doing the same thing for a million years And I want to remind everybody He said it's pointless It's not doing damages somewhat of a point. There's a point to that. Yeah game be any shittier. It doesn't even follow its own rules Ah, oh, yeah Oh come on man What's even gonna say As you can imagine I am as curious as all of you it's like wall. Yeah, you just killed yourself So what are you gonna blame? This game sucks. This game sucks. All right We're gonna run in between like one two three four enemies. They're all three of them Am I gonna get the steel man? Yeah, of course they need to suck. This game sucks. Okay, we just said it sucks. I got it. Did they just not attack you? The steel man was potentially The steel man was potentially that he got he got move assisted by the slide forward into that position But no, but if you know, that's what you do when you attack enemy in front of you He's clearly heading toward hitting that guy. Well, like you can you can roll out of that the whole time and he didn't Absolutely This is normal. This is normal difficulty. This game sucks. He was on that just means no, that means you're bad It's your worst. I don't know. You would have been normally But this is what I mean when I was watching this I was just like man It feels so weird to watch this compared to the guy in the video like This kill issue this kill issue Prep in get away Look at how long it took for you to just use the mechanics. Yeah That's who to thought when you're actually like engage with the mechanics that you might find Engaging with the mechanics is like it's it means they that's pretty stoy to be fair. True. Yeah, you need to make your own mechanics You have to be a leader not a follower Yeah, if when mario tells you like jump when the game gives you a tutorial about the jump Beat his ass You grab a shovel and you start digging Angry good good fucking game design motherfucker What as an attack I didn't even get a directional indicator for that poison This way I like how you guys when you see a clip start you're like, what is it gonna be? What is he gonna? He's a grab bag of wonderful fun. I just want to play it again. Just case people best is such a great little I Damn it. I didn't even get a directional indicator for that poison. Really? I wouldn't be surprised if they think like most gamers are extremely incompetent at games Shit spoon fed to them console. Oh, no. Oh, yeah, it's fire skeleton number four guys Let's see how many times this one takes me to kill I hate the mechanics of this game. I really do I thought you liked the combat. I'm gonna forget. Yeah, I told you said that it was pretty good He did but he he absolutely hated them at one point. Can you imagine what changed? Can you imagine if there may be something that changed? Let's see too many buttons So did he put it on the thing I want to do All right, let's be clear if you are holding a controller in your hands and you say there's too many buttons They need to just curiously reevaluate your existence as a gamer See that kind of comment I don't mean this to be critical at all that kind of comment be like Oh, they don't they don't play pc games. Okay. Yeah, I'm playing clearly not you've never played like arma escape from tarkov Any rts any any rts really and even then like cheese And yeah an mmo Like come on you should never look at a controller and say there's too many buttons too many buttons They're all there for a reason so you can reach lost very easily Maybe a nintendo 64 controller No Well, I mean, there's no way to touch all the buttons on a 64 controller. This is too many modes. I'm gonna forget some of these There's too many buttons To do the thing I want to do Too many buttons. No, I wanted to pause here. Okay. Oh my god. 15 Nearly Upgraded a couple things not even easy to get here The youtube overlays in the way for me is that 15? Let me guess let me guess I'm gonna make a prediction. I don't make prediction My prediction is That he's been bitching about the game's difficulty and how it's too hard He is now gonna upgrade everything in one massive chunk and then we'll complain that the game got too easy all of a sudden Crazy, I don't know why you would say that that's my that is my prediction. I haven't actually seen this So that's my prediction. I guess We just straight up upgrade everything He's just buying them. He's not reading them Wait for it. Oh, she could go valkyrie mode. Oh my no might have helped me Yeah, the ability the abilities and upgrades might have helped That might have helped If I had upgraded her that might have actually helped me a little They want you to come If you played so many fucking games How come you don't check for fucking updates the most common thing in these kinds of games? Why would you why would you boast yourself? I was like, oh, I played so many games. Oh, I don't I forgot there's an upgrade in you. Whoops I mean the game hardcore introduces it to you. You can't escape the tutorial for it It's like this is here. Use it I played for x amount of hours and it was super bored. So I didn't engage with the game. It's like, yeah, then get fucked. I don't know Now the the complaint to make here is you can see a little bit It's gone translucent says ax melee attacks against burning enemies deal bonus damage Now generally like if burning is if a word is either highlighted or in its own thing It implies there's a mechanic attached to it directly But the complaint here is to ask how much bonus damage? Why are you not telling me this? Why do you specifically say that this thing Does bonus damage, but you don't tell me how much I'm not a fool game I'm not an idiot. Tell me how much more damage if it's five percent. I might not fucking bother if it's 10 Well, that's a potentially big deal. Let me know the numbers legitimately should determine whether or not I will It will not take this ability and I think that I hate when games doing this Especially bad when it's like would you like armor a or b a makes it so enemies are slowed down when you dodge at the right time B makes it so enemies take more damage after a roll. It's like Yeah, but how much more how much time? Yeah And it's like i'm gonna have to use them and find out that's the only way I can do And I see my telemetry on how often i'm rolling Um, it's kind of annoying and uh, yeah, I agree blades and the axe that's stupid Or it's stupid. Tell me why you do more if you do the birdy First no one's ever doing that shit. No one's ever doing that See even when you're done doesn't make you need to be jacked That took like a shit ton of bits dude. This is too many moves. I'm gonna forget some of these I don't want to have to like change all of my main points Slowly over time Will not change it, but just say You know instead of dropping a huge chunk of abilities on yourself at once if you got them one at a time and one at a time He'd land them. Yeah, and then use them. Yeah That's exactly the reason that progression systems like this exist the way they do So they can drip feed you your moveset Shit ton of bits. Dude. This is too many moves. I'm gonna forget some of these I don't want to have to like change one of my main points in the video Will not change it, but just say like in the beginning of the game enemies are too just fun You know he needs to just do He needs to do a full reset now You need to restart the fucking game and pay attention to the actual moves you have so you can judge the difficulty You've spent so long without upgrading anything about you don't even know what difficulty you were on This is like you your experience of the game up until that point. It's just like not apt It's just it's not useful because you played it in a way that's so bizarre Because now i'm doing Oh this this clip right so now that he's actually figured out how to use the um the bonus damage on the axe watch what happens here Oh, hey, that looks really useful. Good. Geez man, that is really good. That is really good Hmm. Yeah, and a cooking what all the way until out until vanna time to figure that out. Yeah, that's nuts Good job video game You are going into this and now I'll review it. That's my fault. Not the game's fault. Oh my god Now it can't be said It's uh as someone to judge that it's pretty game jiddo of you It is as a game gen I was straight up I mean it only took him literally missing the upgrade system of the whole game to admit that some faults might be his But I mean we got there. Yeah at the game has to take it back now You have to take you have to apologize. I want to see i'm sorry synthetic man in the chat I want to see it. That's not a dsp moment. That's the opposite. You dumb I'm not like dsp. I'm not like dsp. I've never seen a man cope so much You're saying i'm a dsp for playing it on hard mode I'm retards actual retards you guys I can't believe you guys are this dumb. I'm a real gamer. I'm not like dsp. I'm not a hardcore gamer I can't be like him. I make fun of him I just like it's funny because like I have dsp but I think everyone does here and there. It's fine Sure, it is weird. All of our moments aren't dsp moments. I didn't have a dsp moment of oh, there's an upgrades tree. Fuck Oh, you said maybe in a modern chip delay video game. There is a skill tree What would I replay the game? What are you talking about? I'm not going to give it a higher score anyway I don't like the comment. Yeah, I know I'm not I will stubbornly not change. See I was right all along really Well, do you understand right all along? grading a criticism from the gate the enemies are spongy to Hard mode is spongy is not nearly as much of a criticism against the game You know, and I'm not going to play it again on normal to find out if it's not spongy on normally You know, I mean also your review is based on one single playthrough. That's good to know and it's a borked playthrough Yeah, yeah, it was a good one. You paid attention. Yeah, sure. Maybe yeah Or keep your criticism focused on hard mode then keep playing on hard If you don't want to replay the game on normal, you can just say yeah, I played this game on blank difficulty Pretty much every review I've ever made I usually will specify the difficulty I played on because I know that my experiences might sound like they're totally made up to someone who played on a different difficulty Because they're like, that's not true. That doesn't happen. It's like, okay Well, I guess I should have told you I'm on the highest difficulty or the lowest one. You know, you just got to be honest I swear to god, I have to hit him or a blow up But if another guy hits me while I'm recalling my axe, I can't block Then don't recall your axe when you're in fucking strike range Bro, watch this just roll Disguise you Disguise you Disguise you Disguise you Disguise you Disguise you Why did he you should just rolled Oh my god Don't blame the game for your lack of skill You haven't even played the game I'm never Listen to this one. He thought he was bitter before dropping down to easy BP Jordy Play the game. Just play the fucking game and every time you die I want you to tell me tell me how many times you died record it write it down Your pathetic weak ego One count of my desk that number would be high He said I'm kind of mashing my way through this Yeah, just letting you know this is not the kind of guy you really care to have his opinion on in terms of how the combat works at that point He didn't engage in the skill tree. He mashes most of his point. He said I'm min-maxing for damage It's like you're not even listing the things that have damage even reading the In case it's not apparent the point of bit of looking through all of this is like man The things that you say like but the way that you played it man Like It's funny. There are people who are like you're judging a review video by stream clips. That's like disingenuous. Like this is context The reason why the reason why it's worthwhile to see dean takahashi like playing cuphead and not able to do it Any of like the most basic movements in the tutorial is like dude I can't like you're just not playing it the same way that I will You're actually stupid. You should not ever be talking about video games I nobody would look at that and go. Wow. You're actually looking at him like playing the tutorial rather than his review That's him playing the game. That's him playing the game. That's what informs what he's talking about From his gameplay than his opinions There's let's let's rephrase that from his real opinions as opposed to his his fake Opinions that he he tailors to a different. I don't know Yeah, kind of there is an unfortunate reality that people don't like to acknowledge very much I think which is the generally mastery over a game correlates to an understanding of its mechanics quite strongly Yep, and this is the thing. Uh, you watch matthew mitosis video of 2018. He understood exactly what this game was doing Took the time. What was really cool about that video is it was evident He did multiple playthroughs just to find out about even the smallest of things like Um, whether or not atreus's attitude changes when you do all side quests in the moment that he's angry and reckless He actually like went unfound that out. Even even I was just like, oh shit. Okay. Nice. Let's listen. Good research. Uh Pretty inconsistent like these guys are dying pretty fast Partly because I had my fire Partly because I was engaging with the mechanics, but Upgrades made the enemies inconsistently weaker Like that the combat works. It's just there's a lot of buttons for us Are you gonna be okay there kiddo? Please don't forget to put that on your video But dude let people know you found it difficult because there was lots of buttons This is a lot of buttons. He's never played an mmo. There's no way he's played an mmo Now again once you have ruining attacks and all these different weapon buffs and things that isn't really the case anymore In fact by the end of the game I was pretty much just swapping between my three weapons spamming the light and heavy ruining attacks and everything was dead So the combat was still fun. This is not me like counteracting my previous sounds like you like it the most when it's the most Mindless and spam. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's just maybe that's not true But that's how you phrase it It's really weird because I thought he was setting up for criticism there and then he said it's really fun It's like, oh, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it is set up like a criticism I was just swapping weapons and spamming abilities It's good when it feels most like a power fantasy. I mean I made that exact criticism earlier I mentioned how Molo was mack dumping his runic attacks and that's what I kind of devolved into Statements I said is good. I just think the enemies have too much fucking health I think in a full blown rpg, which I wouldn't consider this one It is an action game with light rpg mechanics, but a full blown rpg like dragon's dogma I think that's fair. I'm fine. I'm fine Yeah Which actually played a little bit of directly after I finished this game on stream In the early game enemies do feel like they have too much health because your attack is too low But that's built into the game systems so that once you're level 50 and have better gear You can kill all those pussy-ass enemies in one hit. There isn't really an equivalent in god of war God of war expects you to use the mechanics that they introduce Um, so this is the thing if you have let's say mechanic abc A just being regular moves b being like some kind of variant that comes on top and then c is like a cool down move That's going to come up every once in a while. It's really good If they design it so the a b and c Or rather a is enough to to nuke enemies then a b and c players are going to be like why is everything made of paper? Like you you you have to balance it so that the highest skill players are going to have the easiest time more than likely That's just how it goes, but the lowest skill players still, you know You can't just let them get away with it. You're gonna have to be like look you should be using the moves We've been giving you if you're not Yeah, it's gonna be tougher yep There's only time during the game story where they purposely throw enemies with less health at you to make you feel powerful And that was one of my favorite encounters in the game. There it is. I just I just think that's really funny That's like a self report These stats attached to armor seem to have a very minor influence on your overall stats Someone actually did testing for the original game and found this out and it seems like they haven't changed anything So the only things that matter are the passives which range from incredibly situational to actually pretty damn good And your overall gear level which is by far the most important thing Which is determined by your stats Like it's overall Yeah, like saying that's the thing that actually matches like well, but it's built of the other things Yeah, they go together of the numbers of the stats. Yeah, at least for gimme god award difficulty Oh, sorry go ahead No, is it All right I was saying at least for the gimme god award but difficulty the stats are so important that you'll find yourself being encouraged To equip new things you find instead of using resources to upgrade things Just so you can equip the new thing and then use those resources to upgrade that one And maybe nudge yourself up into the next number tier because it actually it creates a significant difference in In your survivability really because if the enemies will not only Be at the level they're at when you begin combat on that mode, but they can spontaneously level up unless you interrupt their animation So it's the the the gear score becomes incredibly important in that difficulty And uh, it's worth mentioning like when you look into the the people who are trying to Play this game at a high skill level like they all talk about the stats Like what what ruins what runs? Sorry, what what builds you're going for and they're not superfluous what i'm trying to do Not that that's a surprise at all of course. They're not they uh, they actually unlock additional moves based on How much you've thought of the thing like of your regular move they did in the 20 Once again, it feels like this game was designed primarily for casual gamers people who don't care That's why you're having such a tough time of it. I don't understand how you can say that after what we saw Yeah, it's because people who read who watch this review. They're not expecting you heard him say it He doesn't expect people. I guess actually watch his streams and stuff and how he actually did Yeah Ass or numbers record of all his his behavior on the internet that we could watch and download and save and review You could maybe make this point But the references would be completely different from what he's been providing because what I meant about the experience of the combat is alien He can reach correct conclusions, but his workings are absolutely I don't even want to call the conclusion correct because of that, you know, I can see what you mean Yeah, yeah, you know what he's referring to isn't even what you're referring to mm-hmm If I had upgraded or that might have actually helped me a little The blades and the axe that's I'm gonna forget some To do the thing I want to do You just equip the gear that has the highest number and move on and the few people who do care That gear is saved specifically for the end game So it makes you question why the gear system even exists or is there for any game? Yeah, duh, of course, and then of course Makes you question Idiot plenty of armor options as you go through the game that are based on what you prefer to play with I went with runic and they bounced it so the runic was less effective in this game. So I'm like There's a lot of end game content as well Like a lot. Yeah I feel like the answer is the same answer that you could give for any modern game that has crafting Or a million side quests or activities Scattered throughout the map the AAA industry all copy off of each other They see what works for one company and they steal some of those concepts and add it to their game They call it feature creep, right? And while personally, I hate No, I feature creep describes a very specific thing Yeah, that is when you gradually add little elements to a game like new mechanics or new design choices That amount over the course of a long time to a game. That's very confused I didn't rob that bank officer. That was feature creep This game is not like hard to understand. Is it like the features aren't that extensive at all? No, not really I don't understand like it almost sounded like he agrees with that statement, but then he describes it as feature creeps like I think In an effort to understand what he means I think he might be comparing it to the old series like the the previous greek mythology trilogy that is more Linear straightforward movie type games or is this one does he complains about this one being a linear movie game? I know that's what I was like what I was going to end with because yeah Well, he was talking about like well that being hyper linear But it's like you're sort of complaining now that You have some flexibility in an end game to pursue if you really like the game and you don't want to just Delete it when you finish the campaign to move on, you know One of the great things about writing a script for a video is by comparison to those sort of offhand comments That you may make on a stream you can like sort of go through them and curate them And then figure out if something that you say earlier contradict something that you say later And then reconcile that contradiction rather than just leaving them in Hey crap. I actually usually like rpg mechanics They're just two bare bones in these last two games. So now that we've talked about combat pretty thoroughly. It's time Hey, Thea was that thorough? Not even close You didn't even talk about the combat you described it and then said nonsense for like 20 minutes And we talk about level design I mean, I just like I we've highlighted it before but the idea that he thinks it's stupid that you should combo your weapons Like that's that's such a small statement But it's so indicative of how smooth brained he is that he thinks that's stupid You know that that that bit of mechanical complexity Which is barely, you know complex is like the concept of comboing your different weapons that he thinks that's stupid with no Elaboration given whatsoever. What is he? Where does that come from what do you gain from listening to this? I'd love to know how he reconciles that with the previous games the greek ones Too late now. We're finding out what he has to say about level design, which is a complex like that's a big topic Let's see what you got I don't know be a long section because the level design is very Simple and exactly the same for every realm in the game. Stop me if you've heard this one before It's a set of combat arenas connected with linear hallways Everything that's in between a combat counter is either a puzzle Or a minor optional little side pathway that has a treasure chest at the end I know a shit ton of you are going to have no problem with this whatsoever. You might not equal Why have you so you are going to touch on the big open spaces though? Like the big open spaces that the game provides you with the seven No, those are just hit those are just disguised loading screens. Yeah, wow He has to talk about them. They're such a huge part of the game Like they eat up a lot out of that content It sounded like he said it was only corridors and combat arenas like well We know it as opposed to big open spaces where you go on your boat or your dog goes take your sled around mid-garde or The lake of nine cannot be considered a combat arena with hallways. You cannot do not huge Lake of nine loading then you have the vanaheim section and the whole fucking plain crater you can go to the crater Yeah, exactly. That is I took hours. Yeah, I spent hours there doing stuff and that's really optional as well By the way, notice that it's all I'd still want more from the criticism Yeah, yeah, so let's see what he does all a bunch of linear hallways But I just want to remind you the back when final fantasy 13 came out everyone called it final hallway 13 What about it's truly uncanny and then you're back at the scene You cannot cannot hit us like I was about to call it a cut scene But it's like well, I guess because you can hold forward that makes it Slightly like soft cutscene for lack of a better term I'll refer to that as an example of what this game is in totality for mechanical exploration. What do you mean? So like yeah Try go right I'm sorry I can't go right. Hey Michael. Yeah Try going left Hey Michael. Yeah The only piece of artistry in this video was taken from someone else. Yeah, uh go watch John Tron's videos. They're really funny Yeah, John Tron, John Tronay I thought I was playing the game John But I've been using the rock control all the time And now this has become increasingly yeah, that was just like somebody else's joke And he was he didn't use it accurately. He and he didn't know because in that case He would use in the wrong controller right as opposed to you're not allowed to so don't even work Yeah, it's just a botch joke The sequence that he picked for it like it's it's not it's not a situation Which you could be exploring if you wanted to like you are rowing down a narrow canal, you know He said it doesn't feature a sandbox. Now these last two God of war games have Okay, so you are gonna sort of anyway So I'm sort of moving on let's yeah, let's just see what he says Are just islands connected by a glorified loading screen. Ah, so wind waker Wind waker I messaged islands connected by a loading screen or is it not? I don't want to say about this shit like Elden ring question your brain has melted When you move between big player spaces and largely empty space Ratchet wild. Hey look right that open world. It's just a loading screen. It's not between the points Both in wind waker and in this game when you're out on the water, you can like grab treasures out of the water There are those treasures. I think you mean grabbing loading screens in a box. Yeah Like grabbing soy Because the player is an active participant just moving around the world can be some can be substantive It doesn't need to be mechanically rigorous rigorous just moving around in a fictional world like this depending on art design and atmosphere and all that Journey is just exactly that for the whole game journey is built off of that shadow of the colossus pulls it off between its boss fights The souls games used to be really good at look at all these gullible gamers in here Oh, yeah, we got a lot of people. We're called grifters like it's so funny I saw someone call us as sellouts as well because we're defending the game Just you wait on the salad. Oh the game that I didn't buy and then I got no money for Yeah, because it can't be that we think it's good. That's an impossibility. That's true. It's true So that different but at least it has the illusion of exploration, right? Which is much better than the hallways I'm not shitting on it. It's not an illusion. You are exploring at your own pace. Yeah How can exploration ever be illusory? Either it's exploration or it's not. How could it be fake exploring? What does that even mean? Tell me what you mean If you see a treasure chest right across an invisible wall that you could just feasibly jump over Which of course you can't fucking jump in half of modern games either, which is just bizarre You never jump in real life I I would just go as far as saying. Yeah, I I like it in games when they make justified reasons for why you couldn't get there Yeah, pretty simply. Yeah, but like this doesn't happen that often. I don't I don't um Have a thumbs up Well, I think he's made he's made there's been some in concept that sound about right But then when you get to the details like oh Um, but by the way, this happens in all the other god of wars too I so I'm just curious if you would maintain the criticism. I hope you would Feels like a circle in a hallway in a circle in this game And there's only so many ways I can complain about that before it gets tiresome Just know that i'm not asking for another sandbox or open world I'm just asking for a little bit more player interactivity like they did Like in the game seems very Boss in the alpine open world. Yeah, so To me, it is the halfway slot between them open-willed sandbox and linear hallways It's it's the halfway point they've gone with And so it is trying to be an adventure game more so than some other action adventure games Clearly, yeah It reminds me of a gears 5 where you have the three different distinct sections where you get a vehicle You could run around this big open area and do all of the side missions and side objectives if you want Which are worth doing and there's there's story sections that are more linear I didn't finish gears 4 that's making me want to play 5 though And we want to talk about the snowy games like there's a difference between the open world sections Or like open areas in god of war ragnarok compared to the last of us too when you get to seattle Like one of these things is not like the other the one in ragnarok is more involved There's more things to do that are worthwhile and interesting Yeah, and as for the whole like you can jump in the og it's like there are invisible walls though Yeah, there's like legit invisible walls now So, you know, and that's I'm pretty sure that's what he's referring to is the problem here It's not like they could have jumping in this game You still couldn't get to that chest because they're like no you have to get it to it a different way I honestly think it's a it's mostly a problem that's impossible to avoid with this perspective and camera system Because it it feels like you are much more You know in kratos shoes and able to do what he should be able to do when you've got this narrow a field of view Where the old style camera of like the original games It's wide enough that when it's like okay the areas where you can move is here These buildings over here are video game walls And that's it because they like they can design it in a way where it doesn't have to look Like a living breathing world because you're very clearly looking at a fixed camera angle But when you can look around like this it's like, okay Well, why can't I go there and it can be a little annoying? It's it's sort of why I don't like these games getting as As detailed graphically as they're becoming because it seems like The the worlds are looking more alive than they actually are in some instances and I kind of Want things to be designed in a more video gamey way at times, you know Much as like that with readability, right? Yeah, but the thing is like they still I remember streaming So it wasn't even that long ago where they would be invisible walls and all the world was just like oh, it looks like I could go No, okay fine. That's fine And I don't you know rant about how gaming is a disaster and that we need to make more options to play Instead I'm just like, yeah, that's so the invisible world tells me I don't go here Like I don't know it just seems like a relatively simple communication between me and the devs And I think it's a reasonable one because it's pretty much present in all games It's rare that you can get away with zero invisible walls But you don't hey congrats if you do A little bit more actual control over the game player choice, right? I know it's a bit of a meme term But when you no go away with player choice Oh weird that he hasn't even highlighted how we lost it though Yeah, I don't know like this is just something I feel very strongly about where people always want more and more choice in games When that's very much not necessarily a good thing More complicated than that. Yeah, if someone said like I should Your experience can be much more valuable sometimes Someone said like I want to have a special ability in Tetris where I can shoot a gun at the blocks to remove some of them It's on a cooldown like that would be more fun. I guess uh To give a a more likely one in reality I want to have a stealth game where I can like actually engage in like really easy combat Like where I can just blow through the level and kill everything It's like well Maybe sometimes it's worthwhile for a stealth game to be very focused on On stealth mechanics and it's combat is an option, but it's not a very good one Yeah That combat doesn't work very well for you because that means that you're not allowed to do it Which means that the discovery portion of the stealth game is more punishing Which means you have the stealth which is what the game is designed for someone said nice straw man. Nice straw crow It's um, I'm not We're talking about examples of what you could say in relation to having more choice Yeah, we're going off of theos thing. Yep Did I straw man feel I'm sorry Yeah, that was an appeal to I don't know something some fallacy make one up fallacy, bro Not a lot of attention, okay Restrict my control heavily by putting invisible walls everywhere. It makes the game less. That's not a restriction of controls um It's don't fudge them that means you can't go to places that literally don't exist I don't have anything because the devs didn't make that So you're really eager to get to a part of a map that doesn't exist That's part of it right like that chest for example, it's like well just keeping on where it was There's only going to be so many ways to get to it. This isn't one of the ways they're allowing Like so, you know, is that exchange that difficult for you? You can you survive it? I hope so In that specific instance of you know, there is an easier way that should Physically be possible for my character to get to my goal I can see how that might be a little bit vexing in the moment. Maybe yeah for most other things where it's just Yeah, you can't go this way. Why would you want to go this way? There's nothing this way. I don't understand. There's no problem with that Single time without exception. So we might as well talk about the puzzles too Oh god this fucking section. Oh jesus. I fucking hate the puzzles Every single puzzle has the same exact solution. You look around every single puzzle has the same exact solution I feel like that's an incorrect thing to say That doesn't sound right. This doesn't sound right to me I just want to highlight like the opening of like I don't like the puzzles. I think they they're bad I I feel like Theo would be like and then he goes they're all the exact same like No, you missed again Somehow and you ax or you throw your blades That's it. The difficulty ranges from extremely easy and brain dead to Weirdly difficult just because you miss something obvious or you forget Well, if you miss something obvious and whose fault is that a puzzle If you miss something, uh, you don't phrase it like that if you're going to criticize the game I will say we went through how he criticized the combat and the sponginess and stuff But then we found out that he had no idea how any of it fucking worked Now he's saying this about the puzzles. Why don't we just check out how he solved the puzzles? I feel like I feel like that might be a good idea I made fun of me multiple times on the streams because I forgot a simple mechanic like Runic arrows can explode fire which made a puzzle way more difficult than it was supposed to be Didn't understand the mechanics. So that's good that he's admitted that it'll be interesting to see what it was like on the stream But the puzzles just feel completely pointless and like padding because they feel less like puzzles and more like a game of eye spy What is that even This is how he solved I've sped this up because holy fuck just watch what happens Most of you if you watch the play through this game are familiar with this puzzle You just have to light the fire from the left and then use that lit fire to light the fire to the right of it Yep, let's see how it goes some games journalism Got one sweet. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. Oh No No go on you can It's not working The problem is he's not familiar enough with the mechanics. Let's hope he can figure it out anyway Yeah I was so mad at myself when I saw the one that was behind you and like Wrong wrong hour. I think oh, that's that's fine. Keep that in mind, but we'll keep going The green one. Yeah, it's the sonic arrow. That's the green one. Yeah, it's even I know that from not playing the game Oh Yeah, someone just told him you can do that he's he's about to reach seater and he's only just found out this is the thing Oh, oh my I'm kind of wondering how he got through some of the other puzzles Like don't you have to expand the Um His chat were very frustrated at this point He should be used to this if they normally watch him They're allowed to backseat How arrogant Hmm Someone said shoot middle pillar then the missing flame then directly the blue flame That doesn't work. I that doesn't work That doesn't work. We've we've done this already. We've I you can't oh, no It doesn't activate the flame I literally already did that. This is a bomb. This game is pissing me off. You didn't you didn't do that Yeah, wait, this gets even better wait for it. It's pissing me off It's pissing me off. It didn't work. Are you guys saw me shoot it like a few minutes ago miss Sonic miss. I literally did that already. I literally did that Yeah, I mean wasn't honest mistake just take the island we're good games bugged buggy Game is bugged bro Yeah, I don't set as that's that's just dsp I don't know everyone who kills me as a hacker and every puzzle that I don't solve is bugged It's just funny to me when when that happens to me in my chat Yeah, my chat is like no you did this and I was like, oh really? No, that sucks. Well, I guess I need to do better next time I usually In the moment you can sometimes misread what you actually did. Oh, I do all the time. Yeah Especially when you're streaming. Yeah, especially when the stream attacks is very real and not a lot of people respect the It taxes your brain power What I think what a lot of gamers forget is that the vast majority of the time the game is working as intended. Yes Colletious happen bugs happen, but I'm angry Exactly. I'm angry I'm like Kratos, okay No actual thinking involved Look, I know in the original games We're gonna have a look at another puzzle. He saw Just replace I spy with block puzzles and you have essentially the same thing Yeah, when I saw that I was like, why did he solve the puzzle that way? I've got to see this in context, right? Okay, so it doesn't stay So everything at this point has worked so that when Kratos holds the wheel and moves it It stays as long as you stay on the wheel. I don't know why he just said that Isn't that in the first game too? It's all of these puzzles It's dependent on as soon as you the puzzle they can do is like you open the door while turning the wheel the second You let go of the wheel the door will start closing. It's like, oh, I got to find a way to freeze it As long as you're holding the wheel it'll stay I don't know because you can hold the wheel with one hand and throw the axe with the other. Yeah, so let's see how this Okay, okay I actually don't know which way I'm supposed to be pointing this I think I gotta turn it on first Hmm well Yep All right. This is the bathroom. Wait. Hey, wait a minute. What did tear just say? Hold it in place You know people have complained about the hand-holding dialogue, I mean he had it right there, but he's knocked it back out Now you've seen by this point You need Okay, now we're trying to just point it out that you you've got it there Well, each of the mpcs has brought up the two things that you need to do To your product Position it just said this game thinks he'll so stupid. Yeah And it still is over Oh, what do we you know, it'd be great if I could just ask a trace to hold this for me. I think that'd be You can hold it You can use your arms for anybody who can hold it for you Greatos can hold this thing at three different levels He's load it to the bottom the reason that they have that as a potential is to give you false answers Right, you've got to figure out which is the correct one of all the combinations Which angle which levitation there is only one out of all the possibilities As tear and atreus have just lined out this is an obvious one, but that's okay Figure it out. I know you just gotta bounce the axe off the purple bit This is weak and pathetic. Sorry. Hold on. What did you say? Uh, that's a trace to hold this for me. I think that'd be cool I mean, I know he's weak and pathetic But uh, he kicked your ass. That's for sure You good Issues we'll talk about like Jesus you can see from the reflection that it ain't right All right, but what do we do fringy? They already said Obviously can't A heavy No, I can't get the angle up enough 200 IQ The game is about to call me a retard. I know it Not just the game You keep spinning this. Why would you do that? Maybe if I just spin it You know by this point in the game That the axe will reflect and bounce off of that surface. I mean this is how can you do that if it's facing in the See this man play portal. Oh wait a minute. You know, maybe I'm supposed to go And just time it Oh Yeah, yeah, that's what you're supposed to do. That's what you're supposed to do. Yeah Can I just do it from here? Oh Why would you be able to do it from there? What's the point of the wheel? That's where you can do it from no Okay. Yeah, you got time it dammit. All right, but I told you you can hold it in place So he found this borked solution instead of just doing the most obvious and simplistic thing But they've told him how it's the first second there. What do you say? Oh, you got it I'm a little impressed. I can't believe we got it to work that way. Yeah, especially I gotta change the line in my script because of that because I say there's one solution to every puzzle. Apparently I'm wrong Yeah, good job That's thinking outside the box. I suppose. But yeah, so the reason you need to see this is to think about this in context Of what he describes the puzzles as like brainless, you know like Yes, there's a thinking involved But there were way too many puzzles in this game. Yes, some were just optional norm chests But do you really think I'm going to ignore this loot right in front of me? No, the game is So there's too many puzzles Yes, they provide loot, but I'm not going to ignore them because because I like loot I don't understand. Uh, I mean you're choosing to engage with them. Yeah There's a puzzle on offer if you complete it you get a reward. That's how that works But you don't have to do it you might call that player choice Yeah Why the hell do you need this many this is the consequence of wanting to why do you need this many puzzles? You're complaining that there's more stuff to do. I don't understand more content. Yeah, like this You can complain this too many if they're really bad, but you've not really done a good job of that You just said they're all exactly the same which they're clearly not You could make something like I don't know maybe if there was more different ways of acquiring secrets or you know Things like this. Yeah, no sense and that's not even mentioning the backseat gaming from the NPCs Mandatory puzzles one of the characters will literally give you the solution if you take too long Which doesn't sound so bad, right? Except how long do you think is too long? Just take a guess It's less than whatever you think it is. It's like one minute, dude There have been How did he include that footage in his review? Is it specifically because he Yeah, I'm not sure because Well, I was just gonna say that I actually would go further than what he said I'd say some of them bled out the solutions just as you arrive at a puzzle is ridiculous Oh, sometimes sometimes they just go like hey, here's this and like, huh? What's happening? I'm still over here checking out this place I think what we do is get up over there over there and then throw the axe at this thing. Okay, thanks It's really worth highlighting by the way. We've been trying to talk about this on different streams But like why does this level of handholding exist? Well, they watch players play the game and get stuck on puzzles for ages And so they're like fuck we need to do something because this is not working Players who just forget the mechanics Or they don't understand that you need to turn the thing and lead it to the middle slot But you have characters say it and then you get other players who are like, why the fuck are my characters saying this? Like I said, I think the solution is that make you make it optional. In fact, you should make something turn on it You should be off by default, but yeah There are players in the world Made this happen Not pointing fingers. Okay Just saying Several puzzles in the game where I was actively in the middle of solving it and the character told me what to do It pissed me off so goddamn much Fire or something Can you turn it somehow? Yeah, I can turn it, but I don't I haven't even figured out the puzzle yet woman. Give me a second You swing that torch to the other side and burn the bramble Shoish I'm gonna kill you 10 out of 10 if babies you told you exactly what to do Yeah, you should appreciate that. I imagine shut up. What do you do? Oh my god. Listen, I've had my retard moments during these last few streams. I'm not Indeed and I didn't what stop stop stop. I'm putting this in the video I'm putting this in the fucking video. This is You can't defend this. You can't defend this and you want to know what are you doing? Okay, why the developers did this. You'll never believe it. It's because of dark side fill dsp And if you don't know who it is, it's not worth explaining to Astias This is a shadowy segment, uh, frank. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, some guy. Yeah It was so easy to just get a black jpeg and put it over But they went through the trouble to box out an area to put everyone He's one of the worst gamers of all time. He's notoriously horrible at every video game he plays You're way more successful than you I bet. So what you're telling me adult men are actually like fully actually retarded Like we're talking unironically. Your brain doesn't fucking work. Why not simply hold it in place? There's almost no actual thinking involved and they fucking designed their game around him of all So now it's finally time specifically around With mechanics we are done He was extensively thorough, okay It's amazing how little I learned. I've been more I learned more about myself than anything else I played the game. I've been more thorough. Well, maybe it's because you're sorry Story as you can by how much is left of the video I had a lot to say and most of it is not positive As hard as I tried up until this point to be as fair as I possibly Very true, so this is the podway. It's not fair anymore. Yeah, that's what I got This is where the bad faith train boards at the station This is about where that stops. I fucking Hated this story. I honestly struggle to think of anything. I actually liked about it and I mean anything And there's a reason that non sony fans Call these games movie games because they really are fucking the thing is I'm actually fine with if you want to categorize them that way just as long as we're clear on what that means It means maybe that there's a focus on the story and there's lots of cutscenes if you want to call them movie games Sure I don't know why we've decided that genre if you want to call it that is automatic fail like oh That's weird It's a whole conversation to be had. I'm fine with the idea that people want more gameplay in their games There's a shit ton of gameplay in these games. So I just I'm not quite sure I understand that Movies 70 percent of this game is some type of cutscene That's no way Did he say 70 percent This game's movie games because they really are fucking movies 70 percent of this game is some Maybe we're not looking at the screen. You're not even paying attention to the dialogue. Yeah, so Okay, that's like Out of out of curiosity Because I I did watch a playthrough of it a long play of this, right Out of curiosity Do you think if you were going to speed run this game with the express point of getting to the end as fast as you could That you could get to 70 percent I don't think I don't see Surely not Do you think some people are not seeing there's mamiya talking to you while you're like running around? Yeah, he was like if that gets But even then Yeah, even then you've got plenty of combat to deal with so I don't I just don't agree I I think that's absurd and that you say well, I don't know It's like whenever you go to like the vanaheim hub or the alfheim hub. It's like dude That's like 90 percent like just doing stuff like fighting enemies doing puzzles and whatnot The crazy thing that I found uh, the mellow you have the same experience, right? When you go to the first area in alfheim, uh, the first The hafka for area you you fight like four big bosses in a row. You're like, holy shit. Like I didn't Like you have the the you have that big drake thing that apparently Is easier when you have the spear because it's like the uh I'm missing the word little glowy areas the weak spots weak spots was a board. I was looking for Um, then you have maven. He's been there. Uh, you have the runic fella Right. Yeah the runic boy And who else Probably a hateful the hafka. Yeah, you have a hateful there as well. Yeah Yeah, there's just there's a shit ton to do Um, and and that's for every realm like with like that sort of approach. Obviously it doesn't count like jordan haim and uh, alf, uh, hasgaard Hmm 70 percent All right, I thought he was I thought he was like I was gonna say like maybe he's just Exaggerating but they're like he just just kind of doubling down on it Well, what do you think your playthroughs were in terms of like gameplay to story? We're talking like 80 20 I don't know how I could figure that out off the off the top of my head. Yeah It's a lot of gameplay. I don't know what to say. I would probably have like 90 gameplay. Yeah, I was gonna say Probably 80 of my playthrough was gameplay. Yeah At the difficulty I played on though, I spent a lot of time fighting the same enemy until I had it figured out And every I almost didn't think of it as a game that was overloading me with cutscenes either Because they always felt like a bit of a rest like it was like, okay Let's ask a lot of a lot of games cutscenes are like that or you just like take a little breather Um, learn a bit about the story appreciate, you know, the you know stuff they put in Planking game I'm sad you're still streaming this. Well, I have to play the whole game. So I figured I'll still stream it while While I feel like streaming I think at a certain point. I probably will stop just because uh, I mean You guys I'm gonna run out of the only major reactions after a certain point are just gonna be to uh Story moments and those are gonna be a few and far in between the exploration gameplay. Um, no, no Whoops Uh-oh, oopsie Oopsie 70 percent of this game is some type of cutscene 70 percent is not spent actually playing the fucking game That's just a lie and those are gonna be a few and far in between the exploration gameplay Down to some of the quick time events not even being real quick time events as in you cannot fail them Okay, you don't want me to hit the prompt, right? Oh, no, you have infinite time. Don't you? Yeah, oh my god 10 out of 10 11 out of 10 12 out of 10 every every game. Sony makes is a fucking masterpiece Yeah, well, I mean Santa Monica studio We're not a moniker sony. It's just give it a second. We're almost we're almost A qte would be defined quick time event meaning you have to press the thing you have to do the thing within a limited time This is not a limited time. They want you to understand. You have to press square to activate angrobota It's like a tutorial. That's what we call the tutorial. Hey, guess what atreus has a companion character now that you can use to To launch attacks Yeah, so like you can complain about the nature of this tutorial if you wish to but this isn't a qte There are qte's in the game if you fail them you die like the obvious ones would be the intro with the Freya if you fail any of them you die That'll actually got murdered by her. It was grizzly. Yeah, everybody x-ray girl is playing Darktide with adam craigler and az and um, yeah, she's she's losing I think Yeah, um, I don't know like this just I just don't get it. I'm just like, you know, this is clearly the game trying to teach you something that's about to happen It was a new mechanic Normally, I would never spend over half a video talking about this story But when over half the game is the story, I fear I have no choice lie. It's a lie. It's a lie I know I've already said it a few times or she has a lie Well, and just uh I'll let this play for itself actually I don't know what the fuck is even I like smell something. I don't know what our goal is Going into ragnarok, you know, like what what are we attempting to achieve? before Ragnarok, you know There's no idea what is happening in this story and you might be like, oh Usually you're being mean like very well. I will let the references speak for themselves So so none of it's good. None of the story is good So here we go the complete story breakdown of god of war ragnarok So ragnarok is a direct sequel to the last one to no surprise, but there has been a time skip I think it's an undefined amount of time. So I'll just assume that's over years Atreus has hit puberty and no, that's not a specific plot point, but it might as well be it doesn't It's not a specific plot point, but it might as well be what do you mean when you say these words I have no idea what to make of that statement. I really don't even matter because despite literally being given a waifu He doesn't show any sexual interest in her whatsoever. What should okay This is so this is like I don't even agree. Um This is weird, uh, not. Yeah, this is weird and they are they are young my dude You're good. They're hour 13. Are you okay? They are young. Let's not what you thinking about in that head of yours What what you thinking about? Oh, let's not go there. Yeah, that's fine. He definitely shows Interest in her if that's what he meant really like to say that he doesn't show it doesn't even match an angrobota I don't think it's accurate. I don't know. Yeah, I would say I don't even think that's true He clearly is trying to get it to like him in that sequence They're because despite literally being given a waifu. He doesn't show any sexual interest in her whatsoever She's a child, bro They're the last two of the species dude and it's ancient Norse. Okay Someone educate this Plank slate. I don't this is these are ancient times that the fucking age consent didn't exist Oh, no, this is weird. This is really weird Really? That's this is this is like this is weird. This is the kind of thing that lefties on twitch wouldn't want us to talk about Let's just put it that way. I remember I said the combat was the best arguments. Okay. We're out of that era now We're into the other era Anybody who had weird pedo talk on their bingo card you can mark that one off It turns out in the time between games a traeus and kratos have literally just been hiding in their house Waiting for the world to end. I wish I was fucking joking But yes, despite an apocalyptic winter coming to midgard the heroes do nothing We prepare for a fight for which we are not ready. I just wish a traeus were not so Restless I care only for your safety. My story doesn't end hiding in these woods I should be out there finding out who I am who Loki is I will not allow you to pick a fight with gods. I will not march my son to war He is no spartan I would keep it that way. I can hide no longer I do not want this war We have suffered enough. I think that's pretty clear Yep Yes, despite an apocalyptic winter coming to midgard the heroes do nothing They should be hitting the snow with their axes No, literally fucking says it in the game. They're training for when the gods eventually find where they're hiding out and attack them They're not doing nothing. Oh, they trained. Oh, so what are the results of their labor? If they were training so hard, wouldn't they start with more abilities than they had in the last game? They wouldn't start at level one So crazy, but you don't get new magical abilities just by training your strength agility speed and target practice Uh, I walk I I go walking every other day so that one day I'll get a magical ability As any day now this is that it just it helps the potential ludenarrative dissonance of Why are my characters still like what have they been doing this whole time? Why is a tray is better than he was in the previous game? Just you know questions you don't typically find asked but you can ask anybody Well, they've they've maintained all of their skills at the base level by training. They've been training hard And there's lots of references to this in the game Not only as a response to grief, but also just atreus being like we've been training every single day We we do nothing but train because kratos is pretty sure he's gonna die So now he needs to speed up getting atreus ready to take on the world on his own Uh, you wouldn't expect them to just suddenly develop New ability like like you obviously kratos is gonna find them Only enough You know, you get a new ability with with atreus transforming into a bear at the beginning of the game There you go, but training isn't what leads to that. It's just age No, I'm talking about that malar. Oh, yeah an equipment, right? They wouldn't just stick with the same equipment and abilities if they were training so training doesn't just generate equipment And they lost their equipment over fimble winter and they they've kept to themselves They didn't even speak to brocken's injury at all except of course atreus Hard for three years, right? It turns out that freya has been trying to kill kratos for the last four years But despite knowing exactly where he lives She somehow has failed every time despite the game trying to tell us that freya is totally a threat guys She's a super bad ass. She could probably even take kratos. Well, I mean she is a god She is really good at a lot of stuff. We know the fan air We know that in the previous game. She's unlocked the warrior spirit. She can attack people again She couldn't attack anybody in the 2018 game Also kratos is actively trying to not kill her. Yeah, but It's because kratos is so brave around the house Weird to show this clip is like see like uh, she could apparently beat us and it's like well So kratos isn't attacking her the second he finds out she's freya Yep, which is honestly something I really fucking liked. I just like that. She masks herself up so that He'll finally attack prompting to fight. Yeah, and as soon as he finds out it's her It's like, oh no, we're not doing this and then a lot of people are saying the stave Well, so it's kind of confusing what his point is right? He's like she knows where they live and yet She's only like accomplished this like well knowing where they live isn't really that useful She's got a way to go outside this day And they could go in any number of directions and also it's winter like visibility is reduced Yeah, so you've got how would this play out? You've got one person who knows there's a big sphere that she can't get into and that they can exit at any point in any direction She's got to find a way to attack them. So Yeah, she's she's running around she's keeping an eye and when she finds them she attacks them and she does it and Kind of probably what is a pretty good way, right? They're rushing to the stave She goes bird form then into warrior form and stabs him like it's He gets she gets a pretty good strike on him too. You got pretty close at the beginning. Yeah You know, I would have beaten you what earlier if atreus hadn't been there Perhaps we could go again find out for certain I would rather not. I'll bet you wouldn't Maybe you should try listening to the video before you make presumptuous comments like this at no point Did I say freya should break into their front door and challenge kratos directly or kill him in his sleep? I guess how does that make any sense? The point is she could easily plan a better assassination than Fly in bird form from above and try to get a surprise attack. It nearly works Not only does it nearly work. What plan are you suggesting? What is what is what plan? She's got to set it up so that she can account for them exiting at any point in any way at any time He's a person who sleeps by the way Yes, of course. There's that rest I don't know Especially after like years of attempts freya is a super powerful mage and warrior aka a mary sue If you're strong in a woman you are a mary sue I don't know about that one my dude. Kratos is a mage and warrior runic attacks are magic It's the but yeah, you're right kratos is incredibly powerful mage and warrior, so I'm sure it's fine. Oh god Yes, she can do really now. I understand why everybody makes three hour videos these days because unless you explain every point You make in detail someone will attempt to gotcha instead of still haven't given a good argument though Still even in your clarification. You've got nothing applying any critical thinking Why do you think freya had only two options? And yeah, I don't think she used a good option. I don't understand it nearly works. Yeah You should like are you actually suggesting she maybe lays like the equivalent of I don't know kaltrops around the entire Place and just hopes one day that critter steps them and bleeds to death Like I actually really don't know what you want He needs to be hyper aware of every possible exit instead of just trying to reach them at different parts of the day Hoping they're out hunting I don't understand I think I need to this comment any further. I think I put it pretty succinctly. Oh, yeah, that's what you did Yes, you said how old the problem is very succinct The problem isn't that she didn't show up at their front door to attack them Is that she had no plan and didn't use he had a plan What do you mean she didn't have a plan she found them and then attacked them That is her plan her vast magical ability to assist her in some way Well, I mean turning into a bird for starters like that's one way to do it fly around Yeah, she does use her magical there was the avalanche. Yeah, that's right So the story really begins with fenreur dying Fenreur consider this the first of many ryan johnson s subversion moments I hate it Ryan johnson mobile That is Yeah, I don't know if I should laugh or cry right now Because if you know anything about ragnarok from actual norse pathology, you know fenreur is a big part of it The game also tries really hard to tug at your heart strings here, but we literally just met this wolf We have never seen him He's a dog So, you know About him and we know who he is This is interesting because there's a reason why whenever you want to establish someone's evil instantly You have them do something bad to a dog to a dog. Yeah That's why in every commercial but often instead of having kids of in the commercial you have a dog because they're super relatable I mean, it's literally man's best friend But by the way like to actually emphasize the important point is the reason why it's worthwhile to have a moment Like this is because what matters most is how a trace reacts to it because he's a character who we know We know who he is and we know what he values and this is going to be important for him That's like the important part more so than the fact that fenreur dies Half the fucking game is about him maturing as a person and funny how we want to do with his life and whatnot Well, yeah, because we couldn't be as explicit when we're doing the breakdowns was chronological But this is of course supposed to set up why atreus makes the choices he does in regards to kratos coming close to death He starts making pretty reckless decisions. He wants to absolutely prevent it. He doesn't handle death well He doesn't like it when people loves dies Pretty common for a lot of humans, but I will go as far as saying this is plot relevance It it hits kratos and atreus in a specific way I guess the game is relying on the fact that you probably like animals that are cute and friendly Uh, and so when they die it's sad This guy you never know I think the killer is that i'm waiting for him to do his god of war one review When he says why would I care that kratos killed his wife and child? I've never met them. I never even saw a conversation. Oh, yeah Why should I feel anything? I don't know them Why should I feel anything? Yeah, basically bulked ass argument, man Before it doesn't work Sony sucks so god damn hard now Yes, we will kill the dog in the beginning of the story to hook you Why did you get up on the accent halfway through the accident that came up? Yeah Are you trying to do like a nazi? So yes, we will kill the dog in order to make the americans very upset at us. Yes Very true Sony sucks so god damn hard now. Yes, we will kill the dog in the beginning of the story to hook you Yeah, he realized his mistake. It just wasn't like As we all know any expression in his eyes you'd be able to see that. Oh, no, this is cringe abort abort Weird is that he thinks that sony is notoriously german? I think a herman halts is the president of sony worldwide studios right now, and I think he's dutch So maybe maybe he's trying to impersonate I think he was just being stupid. I think he just doesn't know what he was doing I had to see the dog And fucking soyboy weirdos don't even like dogs. Anyway That was a pretty red pill thing to say very true The only part he cares about dogs is Very true I don't understand his point there though if he says soyboy weirdos don't like dogs He's saying he's saying this is why don't you hate soyboy weirdos? And so why would you make it that way cool? He hates it for really good based reasons like I don't know this dog Ryan johnson level subversion after all. Yeah, but meanwhile he's saying wow You built this for soy people and soy people don't even like dogs You're just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. That's all that's happening Being a person though that doesn't know a whole lot about norse mythology But does understand that fenrir plays a very significant part in ragnarok I I saw that death scene and it was very sad But part of me was like, yeah, this dog's not out of the story yet. I didn't think he was out of the story I was confused as to how they were going to bring him back and then of course Yeah, well the the thing is he's saying it's a subversion like oh, guess what fenrir's dead I'm like, did you really did you really think that that's what they were doing? You know, I'm going to concede it is a subversion But like subversion is not bad Yeah, subversion is not bad. Yeah, ryan johnson might have tainted that term, but the thing isn't actually bad Really the funny minutes are one giant cutscene You don't even really get to play the game unless you count engaging with a quick time event and moving the analog stick left or right As gameplay done with mechanics reyes runs off into the woods Kratos chases him turns out he can now turn into animals Yes, the biggest character development for atreus is that he is now a furry and so first off That's not character development learning that you have a new power is not character development Like a new ability Unless he's talking about becoming a furry and that's Yeah, all right. Okay. Maybe it's a meme or something becoming a furry. That's that also not a Piece of character development if it is it's horrifically negative Now deter this son can't be trusted since he can't control his emotions or something remember this plot point for later Then Odin and Thor finally show up and honestly the game could have just started here And this is the second We miss out on David's That thing with the trios is being relevant to the plot and of course fed the federal stuff the freya stuff How is all of this? We're achieving Also manages to be a you know slower And I say slower, but there is you know the big chase sequence But it's a slower reintroduction rather than you know, you're back into the god of war games to see what happens next And yeah, Thor's just right at your door immediately It seems a point of Subversion not a zoo story Thor at the door wait. It's a more version. Uh-oh hold on white god for 2018 Building up Odin and especially Thor as being like these badass super powerful guys Odin looks like a frail old man and sounds Uh, how about those appearances? They build up Odin as a liar just just absolute conniving piece of shit that's gonna basically try and make deals try and Show interest in people to then backstab them every time all of Mamiya's stories All the commentary we find about him is basically how he just fucks everyone over Yep We don't get a story about this incredibly powerful paragon of a man who just annihilates everyone in his path It's a little bit You make you you wonder sometimes what he's referencing you might describe Odin's appearance and demeanor is disolving Yeah It's like a sale salesman You know who I am Back before winter set in There were some misunderstanding How do you not read what was from that over snake oil? But I think we all have a better idea of who we're dealing with Now what you did to his boys Self-defense Odin is meant to look old and frail. He's not the mcu version. He's meant to be deceiving and manipulative I don't even necessarily disagree with this. It's more just a wider statement about how the Norse gods are all kind of pathetic red necks I'm a fucking expert and these are not red necks If I walked outside and instead of seeing red necks every day, I saw these people There must be something in the water that I didn't get out of damn That the game make a statement that even the gods are human look they have human flaws Which makes them more relatable. Why do characters have to be relatable? Yeah, this isn't even pretty new tragedy They are relatable. They'll often have flaws. I don't know why we've treated this like it's some crazy idea They came up with Is trying to make a statement that have to be relatable. Isn't it more refreshing to have some Divine supreme being that is hard to understand because they've always been better than everyone else Absolutely not even the original god of wars they they had pandora's box release flaws into like zooses was fear I think he like now everything and it made him Uh, so like obsessed with control. That's that's like what his story was in the og trilogy So i'm curious what example he would give like for it's better when a god is just better than everyone else Like, okay, that's fun and interesting Is he just Other than like j rpg bosses. I can't think of anything Well, he's like i'm actually i'm asking for a clarification. Is he only talking about the character design right now? Or is he talking about characterization talking about their characters all like them as characters He's talking about like obviously he's referring to like uh thul being an alcoholic press person, so Yeah, no that makes it more relatable boo Zeus is far from being portrayed as a perfect omnipotent omniscient paragon of goodness in the original So that's the thing. I don't know What he'd be referring to you know, what what is he what is he looking for? Human Character design While we're at it I find this quite interesting as a comparison to how he described freya and the criteria by which he deemed her a mary sue Oh, right. Yeah, she she by those criteria would fit the one he's wants better than everyone. Yeah I wonder if there's a deeper reason. He doesn't like freya Huh, I wonder what that might be. I couldn't even speculate. I couldn't be crazy Oh, you're overthinking it if you don't know the reason I promise you're overthinking it makes them more relatable Why do characters have to be relatable? Why do gods of all things have to be related? I hope he never gives like a gdq talk or anything about game design It's like the art. He's a person why why would you want to tell stories? Why would you want to? Characterize your characters. Why would you want to do these things? Fuck all that kill civilians for health? I think uh, I'm wondering I think that his Mentality is coming from an over correction from like why would you make luke skywalker a pathetic old man? But luke skywalker was relatable in the og like no, no, I'm talking about um, like the last jedi No, I know, but I'm saying that he was already relatable. You can't like they're like, ah, I don't like we've gone so far into Relate to Relatability as well is a really weird thing to criticize because Yeah, like like it's just universally considered a boon to your characters if they're relatable And that's kind of what I mean. I think I think what he's talking about is an over correction past Hey, good writing into one-dimensional and very simple characterization good And I don't I don't the thing is one-dimensional character If yeah, if they're yeah Absolutely that does a lot of what storytelling does is point to and just demonstrate Artistically parts of the human condition and experience. That's the entire point for a lot of it Isn't it refreshing to have some divine supreme being that is hard to understand? Because they've always been better than everyone else kind of like how they wrote heimdall actually Heimdall is not better than everyone. He is definitely not better than everyone else Uh, he's a vicious little shit. The funny thing about it is that uh, His relatability to heimdall as well. Yeah, he is he is Like it's one of the things we talked about in our coverage like his big thing is that he doesn't like being at the mercy of others He wants to be He gets himself killed because someone is sparing him and he's too prideful. Yeah, his pride absolutely is down. He is pretty flawed He can also always see everyone's intention So he's kind of in a situation where he's like, no, fuck you. I know exactly what you're planning Like his personality actually makes a lot of sense Oh, yeah, I'm a big fan of how he's characterized, but I wouldn't describe him as an example of someone who's unrelatable This problem is my favorite character having the gods all be losers is just kind of depressing. I don't Which god's a loser Odin's a loser No, he loses so feels deeply cynical even in a way that's hard for me to comprehend deeply cynical Being relatable is now deeply cynical Maybe your flaws The way this game ends I mean isn't god of war 3's ending way more cynical than either of these? Yeah Everything dies The ending of this game was significantly more hopeful than I ever thought it was going to be before I played it. Yeah And but I don't think most people think about it that way They just like the fact that the gods are human just like us Well, I just like characters man Yeah, yeah, I like when stories present me with characters with Personalities and arcs and journeys and motivation. You know, just that sort of thing. I'm just kind of a fan I sort of like it. It's better than oh evil bad guys evil wants to destroy world kill evil bad guys Okay, all right. Yeah, I guess we better do that, you know, I do live here. Don't I hate And some people have implied that he's supposed to be a trump allegory, but I will give Crazy person in your chat Some people obviously he was said like I think if he believed it, but he doesn't some people have made this claim I don't know who fit of the doubt this time He's supposed to be some generic putting in my review Let's let's see anybody you have fascist smooth talker. I guess The plan was to kill him they literally said this in the story the plan was to kill him You can choose to be better. Oh my god fringe. No, there's no choosing better Choosing okay We'll never stop Why did they make Odin's vocals similar to trump? What in what way It's a perfect allegory for trump, you know Seeking the truth of the universe Yeah, just just you know, you gotta let it play the full context. Okay, we'll never stop Why did they make Odin's vocals similar to trump? Um, I don't know Why would there we're here in Asgard we have the best All the dollars she is a monster also this odin man bad shit is is like reaching The odin that's talking to atreus is like a nice old man I was gonna say there's so much stupid shit in this one clip. It's so hard to pass out He just we gotta take this point by point First of all, they're sad that neithog is dead, right? Because she was used by odin as a protection the roots when she's supposed to be a force for good in this world They're commenting on how lamenting that that he goes she is a monster simple Okay, sure and then uh, this is typical fake news from bidgard I Man bad shit is is like reaching meme levels. It's like the odin that's talking to atreus is like a nice old man Dude who's acting like, you know an uncle or grandpa and then the game constantly tells you how horrible he is He really is like the trump of this game So right? Oh my god. I can't believe he he He actually got into it. Yeah. Yeah, so he got into the way You drank the odin kool-aid some people make this claim I wonder who fucking is making the claim. And yeah, you're absolutely right. Uh, odin tricked him, which is pretty deep That's hilarious. I'd say it's a compliment to the right. I know that odin was tricking you The whole point was that he was tricking you I mentioned it in the first scene how that first scene with the first stream Sorry The first scene with odin is becoming like a barometer for people's ability to recall information and detect subtext I think odin just in general is that rather than that scene actually Yeah, um, the fact that he's like he's this kindly old man. Why is everyone saying he's bad? Oh my god, he's so nice. And then the game is just a tool through all of the things that odin is ruining, you know Odin is super late it by his own admission the things he's willing to do to get true the people that he Sacrificed and the the people he let die and who put in the way like it's it you're you're supposed to walk away from the game With the understanding that odin is a very very bad man in pursuit of his goals Yeah, and the fact that he could You know, he did his act with atreus essentially The fact that it fooled this guy What a moron And some that he's supposed to be a trump allegory, but I will give the developers the benefit of the doubt this time Some people of him why It sucks that I'm too honest Thor is a fat fuck alcoholic But Thor is a fat fuck alcoholic with daddy issues, let's explore that shall we can we can we get a little bit more deeper than just a very casual Um denigrating description of the character and maybe get into why he is those things potentially. No No, even even to proceed that you remember the bit at the start of the game where he kicks your ass No No, wait. No, he doesn't know he's a fat fuck alcoholic with daddy issues because the game of wopes sorry to be cuck No No, it's noi Why It sucks that I'm too honest. It really sucks. It really does Thor is a fat fuck alcoholic That's the that's like the backhanded compliment to yourself in a way. It's like, uh, I'm just if only I just it's like, uh If I if I was just if only I wasn't so honest if you know, I guess I could I'm too generous of a lover, you know, something like that If I wasn't just such a good person It was just a bit less good of a person, you know Man who has daddy issues We don't learn most of that until later, but we might as well get it out of the way now And god, I just fucking hate this design anyone who says he looks like a strong man has never actually seen a strong man Even eddie hall at his fattest had more muscle definition than this What the fuck are you talking about? There's a lot of strong men that look like thorns odin came In the niss what is this not is he not retarded? You can't see the difference between these two pictures. They're pretty darn similar I don't know if you tell you all you need to know Is that There is a method in which you become very fucking strong And you get body types that look like it for if he punched you you're done Yeah, yeah So to say like he doesn't look anything like he doesn't look strong at all It's just like because he will in a second It's like well pretty sure he looks strong as fuck and the guy said he looks like strong man And I I think that's fair as the the the thing you gotta take into account is We're not supposed to be comparing him to literal strong man winners basically top of the line strong man We should instead be comparing him to a strong man with several years if not hundreds of depression and alcoholism Mm-hmm might end up looking something like he looks now Still strong not as strong as his prime and not as toned as his prime But a guy that could fucking thrash you You put that in your you put it in your fucking yeah because they look kind of similar Yeah, oh those look like the same picture to you. This is like the meme. This is the it's like the opposite of the meme actually All right, this this guy's retarded. This guy's actually blind and retarded. I I can't I can't Are bombs dude. I'm I'm he's very triggered. You'll be right bad Look at his chest. Look at the arms. Yes, his arms are covered in there but still the point is Are you fucking in lots of strong man and he literally just shows eddy hall, which was the fattest eddy hall So he's like 430 pounds for that or something like that and at six two six two and a half Again, you don't know what you're talking about But you pretend you do I'll think The dk card, all right, he's kissing me off the arrogance people say I'm arrogant Yeah, why would they say that? At least I know what I'm talking about like holy shit. This is just embarrassing this again same picture Same they're they're they're pretty similar. They're similarities You are coping if you don't similar enough Yeah, all you need to do is just prove yet. He looks similar to those who compete in strong man competitions Therefore, I believe that he can hit me and kill me Yes picture looks like the same thing Um, like but people who don't lift people don't lift will tell you this is this I don't see the difference Looks like the same guy He's just A bunch of like trailer park trash. They're all rednecks I don't know what you mean by that. Wait wait, right wait for his wait for his assumption on the motivation I don't know because why white people bad or something I agree white people are pretty bad. I just wish they would get about it Yeah, it's too overt I give up. Yeah, I don't I don't Subvert your expectations Expectations Subversion of expectations that white people are, you know, they're kind of multi You know, it's dimensional in terms of we hate rednecks. Okay I just don't know where he gets the red. I want an explanation as to why you see the characters in this game and you think Rednecks Oh, yes, that's right. I'm sick. I'm having to wait. So one of them was an alcoholic one of them was a fat alcoholic Okay, whatever. I'm wasting too much time on this basically odin came to offer peace crados refuses Which might as well be a declaration of war. Just keep that in mind for later And so you get your first huge boss battle with Thor which actually was really fun One of the most fun parts of the game for sure Very similar to the first game where you fight balder in the beginning And we also find out during that conversation that atreus somehow was sneaking off during the in-between years Searching for tear in the other what do you mean somehow? He probably used he probably used his legs So you got legs. That's a good start. Nice start and stingray All of these were pretty useful tools Cindy makes it clear that he was helping him at all I've seen this sentiment going around a lot people saying things like kratos could have said yes But like been insincere, but I don't understand how people think that conversation goes Past that point like do they think odin just goes? Well, all right then and walks out the door I think it's pretty fucking simple. We've been told about all the ways that odin submits deals You ain't making a deal with this guy. Yeah Well, yeah, it's a false piece found out like or at least from kratos's perspective Absolutely, and then of course there's the freya angle as well Yeah, like what what is what does odin mean when he says like we're gonna deal with freya? It's like what are you what are you gonna do? And keeping in mind kratos's perspective on freya and that he doesn't want han to come to her because she saved atreus He's just not accepting that deal. It's not a declaration of war. It's a false piece It's not a deal that he would ever accept. Yeah, like just who he is He would never accept that deal. There's no real utility that comes from accepting that deal at all At a more base level in that scene itself. Mimir says if he tells you snow is white, he's lying That's as far as it goes. You know, and you can never ever trust him on anything As kratos made a deal with a god once it didn't go well. It's so fucking weird though because How do they I don't understand how they see the rest of that conversation going from that perspective Like do they honestly think that odin would just be like, yeah, okay cool, and then they leave And then nothing else happens Actually was ram how was sneaking off during the in-between years Searching for tear in the other realms and of course odin found out as he has spies everywhere So kratos eventually decides okay son, let's go look for tear which they put off for no reason by the way That was so obviously the setup of the previous game. Why do they Not at all the setup of the previous game That we are told about tear and you could assume in a meta level Maybe we'll meet tear in the next game But there is no reason for kratos to pursue tear the end of the teen game Keep trying to make kratos the reluctant protagonist and honestly the truth is he's not even really the real protagonist of this game Atreus is and you play as They both Because there's so many decisions that are made by kratos like Including the one you just had on screen atreus says or an odin have attacked that they know where we are I know a way that we might be able to stop them and I show you And then he ends it with sir And then kratos goes all right show me That's kratos's decision. That's atreus's suggestion The tray is for roughly half the game and his gameplay segments are the worst I'm not half the game. No, no nothing close. I don't know why you would ever wait a second Half the I if 70 percent of the game is story, then how can half of the game be atreus? I guess he means half of the 70 percent so 35 percent of the game is atreus, which is absolutely a fucking lie I need a spreadsheet to understand this fucking review Really fucking brain dead. It basically turns the game into a third person shooter We just charge up elemental arrows and then charge up norm Why does he denigrate it by saying just a third person shooter? I don't know. He's not making any good arguments. He's just telling us what it is. He needs to make arguments Normal arrows and the game is such a generous aim assist that you don't even feel like you're playing the fucking game He turned it off in the menu Well, there you go. It's literally the first one. It's the first one ax How did you do that? I purposely didn't talk about atreus during the combat section because it would be purely negative Even on hard mode. His segments were you know, you're talking about it. I think I only died one time And it's because I wasn't paying attention. Hey, I can't believe that I just I can play. Yeah, I can believe it Anyway, so rather anticlimactic You find here in spartal time the dwarf realm and ryan johnson subversion number three The god of war is a fucking pussy and he does absolutely nothing for the most of the story Dang, I wonder why that is he does absolutely nothing to help the heroes Yeah, he does do something He does let's go look at that prophecy guys Let's go. Obviously those of you who finished the game know why and in retrospect it is slightly justified Oh Slightly, what is what is very justified in his world? I have a guy like I don't you could have Someone who's shape-shifting who is a completely different character subverting all of the other characters Using sneakiness and guile and cunning is only a slight explanation. What the fuck is a big explanation I don't understand like he's like it's slightly justified that he's not the god of war by not being the god of war Yeah Slightly, I don't get it. That's fucking nuts to me Slightly justified when it's an entirely different character pretending to be him Even considering the twist This still comes across like the developers spitting in the face of the player because they spent so much time building up Here in the last game that as a diplomat as a man who made peace with everyone Yeah, because everybody did you play loved him Does what I mean all the characters believed that he was who he was based on what they knew and what he'd been through They wrote it that way on purpose Odin played the part pretty damn well. We finally meet him. He's fucking worthless God killer the giants are were Very private people who didn't die She lied Emil fit for a champion. I never thought I'd have the pleasure of seeing you again fric Uh Don't call me that they stole drop near What would drive you to such mischief is this loki's doing enough? I'm doll's dead I can't believe it There's no stopping it now Odin swore peace only so long as you spilled no more acer blood I refuse that deal Yet he honored it. I'm fine I just hope unlocking this thing was worth the cost you have it What did it show you? I feel like the whole tear being owed in the whole time thing Uh, they came up with like later I don't think that was zero. I know why no way. No way. No way Even if they did later on it's seamless. Let's fucking job I was just about to say if they came up with it later on nice. Good job guys Yeah, that's that that would shock me if they did how if that's the case that it wasn't meant to be this way How was if tear was supposed to be tear How was how was his character supposed to exit the story? Yeah, like that would have Maybe just uh Because it's pretty important that you're exit the story For for the ending that they have in this game That's my theory because Cory Balrog didn't direct this one for whatever reason I think I think that was a change in direction Then in the next section of the game the characters don't really know what to do And one of the major themes of the game reveals itself being that Kratos is an overprotective father and despite being the god of war He doesn't want war which actually doesn't make any sense. God of war Oh, yeah, so he does understand right like one of the major themes of this game about lot being defined by like fate or The expectations of the world or the role that you've always filled and that you can make those choices about who you want to be He's got a you know, you can make we make our own destiny But no, he's therefore he's meant to like war when in 2018 the game that came out years ago Like that I presume. I don't know if he hates it or likes it or whatever Like one of the things that they tried to build throughout that game was that tear is is an interesting like sort of Non-typical god of war and that he's loved by everybody and was like a peace broker And went out there and just was well regarded as like a peaceful person Ah, right. So he's that's pretty that's pretty uh, neil kuckman Ryan johns The beginning of the game refuses odin's offering of peace Seriously somebody explain this he doesn't want war yet. He refused peace. You can't have it both ways Okay, so you filter I must know there are a deal of peace for our inaction if I did not have better counsel I would have been tempted to take it his threat to freya made this impossible She may persist as a danger but to ally against her with her former husband is unacceptable That's that's it. You've got both reasons there. Do not trust him because of the counsel from memir and he's threatening freya I will not have yeah, the scams are unacceptable. These are unacceptable terms Yeah, but he's already highly probably wouldn't Like he may have found it acceptable if not for the fact that memir has said do not trust anything from this Exactly and he has no reason to distrust memir. He's a bro. He's all he only helped them At no point did I imply kratos should trust odin that would make no sense, but you knew that Wait, but well, but that that you can't you can't say that because if you make a deal with somebody without any trust The whole point is that you trust that they're gonna hold up the only way that you would The only way that you would make a deal with someone And expect them to go against it is if you were the one being untrustworthy So it would be the same thing just for the other persons like is the direction is the argument that he should make the deal and subvert it anyway Like how does he expect to do that? Well, but like what does it look like to subvert that deal? But then that's it if we're on the table operating as though odin will subvert it and we will subvert it Then kratos is just not going to accept the deal. Yeah, what's the point like at that point If everybody's just working to subvert it anyway, you might as well cut the pretends This is no there's no deal happening here And besides it's just out of character for kratos. He doesn't do that shit. Yeah, which is the really fundamental thing Which is that kratos is honest. He's like quite honest You knew knew that but it's easier to attack one of the weaker arguments of the video Just say that make fucking video just make the point better. Yeah, if it can't criticisms That said I will concede. I didn't explain my point here very well To avoid bloodshed. He had only one choice Except the peace treaty that doesn't mean he has to trust odin or let freya die Obviously, he would have to find a way to avoid odin's ravens. Sorry, but ideally he would try to see this is Burding the deal dude. How fucking desperate is this? He has to avoid odin's ravens and he has to know It would save freya despite the fact that she wants to kill him. Yeah Yeah, what is this? I just hope that he doesn't encounter odin or thor like in any stage He's immediately betrayed the deal. Yeah, like yeah, what is this? Save freely after accepting the treaty and she still wouldn't forgive him But it would be a step in the right direction. Why she might just kill him. Yeah, this is not a step in the right direction Refuse the hell bent. Yeah, this is you would If you were if you went to freya And tried to convince her of each side of this deal Which one would would it be easier to convince her of if your position was that you didn't want to kill her, right? Especially after right after she tries to kill you If anything if you go to freya after she tries to kill you fails again And then she learns that you have taken up on a deal with her evil ex-husband For the purpose of him dealing with her quote unquote Then that would only look like an act of aggression against her. What happens if she finds out first exactly it's over If she finds out first we're done Yeah, she's gonna keep trying to kill you Which in and of itself won't change But it will make it way more difficult for you to broker any kind of a piece and come to an understanding with her Exactly Because one of the things that is the breakthrough One of the many things is the fact that kratos considers her like a friend or at least that she was a friend So no harm will come to her. Yeah, i'm not gonna kill her. Imagine you ran up to freya and said listen to me Listen, don't don't attack me. I've made a deal with odin and he's gonna try and kill you Even more simply she saved atreus's life and in the previous game That's enough imagine the conversation though like it was like theo said how does the conversation play out? He says yes, okay. Tell me where freya is. Do you know where she is? I'll go kill her right now What is kratos meant to do? Yeah Like oh, yeah, i'm just gonna tell you and then he's like all right stay here with thor i'll go get her He's screwed like Like what's his plan meant to be after he says yes And how is he meant to execute that plan and why is that necessarily better than him doing what he would do in character? Yeah, obviously you would have to rewrite a lot of the plot to make this work Yeah, you would have to rewrite like story swats of it actually yeah Still work in the tear twist so odin would know of kratos breaking the treaty Then odin would pretend to not know to get atreus to complete the mask It's not a perfect fix, but at least kratos wouldn't be constantly moaning about not wanting war You can so these are not mutually These are not mutually exclusive you can complain about you can say i don't want war while not having to accept ridiculously unfair Terms from liars about like going to war or not. No, it's binary like they're not mutually exclusive It's not binary like well, it leads to war therefore you want war It's like well it could be that he doesn't there's certain lines he doesn't want to cross Like it's pretty straightforward Yeah, because even if the terms are fair and you could argue that like hey if you leave us alone will solve your freya problem for you that doesn't mean that they're acceptable to you Like you'd be like, okay, that's that's one for one us not killing you for you stopping freya from killing us It's like, okay, maybe that's higher but still no I don't care enough to make a video rewriting the plot, but i'm sure someone on this platform will So the point i'm trying to get at here is that i didn't actually care whether or not kratos accepted the treaty My point was he's constantly bitching and moaning about not wanting war as the god of war Wipe saying that it's This is it's a it's like a child. It's listening to a child He's the god of war. Why doesn't he want war and then the parents have to explain to him how like words and thoughts work And then they understand it. Yeah, like I this is legitimately baffling to me as if being a god of war It's not some prescriptive Thing that oh, I am the god of war. Therefore. I must behave a certain way. I can't not be that way I am the god of war You know one of the major points of ryan johnson esque subversion If I don't get it, it's ryan johnson. He's coming for me ryan some but i don't like it I used to get accused of people back in the day of being obsessed with ryan johnson I'm just sitting here like I mean some people are I guess I've already complimented his directing skill. I fucking love what the work he did for breaking bad Like I I just I don't even know what to make of this shit anymore I'm just like ryan johnson ryan johnson ryan johnson And it just gets annoying and repetitive and tiresome after a while And so he doesn't trust atreus off on his own because yeah, he's only a teenager But atreus sneaks off anyway to go try and make peace with freya and this whole plot line is fucking stupid They killed her son. There's no fucking way freya would ever team up with freydos Okay, so like you mean the whole story. Well, you can't think of anything You can't think of any reason why that might happen You don't even have to think because the game explains to you and what would possibly be called excruciating detail I would go as far as saying they were overt when you get to the norn section, which he's played It literally plays to freya in front of her her killing her own son. What do you think her perspective on boulder's death is? That she's responsible for how is she dealing with her grief? By taking it out on kratos very straightforward storytelling. I haven't even played the game Come on. I just I just listened. I just watched someone else play it and I paid attention to the character shit But hopefully they do convince her way later But for now, of course she refused if only there was like a step by step pathway getting to that point Like when you fight her in her valkyrie form essentially That's that like first big step to where they're not like buddies yet But they're working together and then you have all of the dialogue through vanaheim and all that stuff and da da da da Nobody says all this just regarding the fact that kratos and atreus had this exact conversation Because atreus is still hopeful about this. There's so much work. They put in so sad to see him Be like they killed his son. She shouldn't forgive them Does McSan's atreus is like, yeah, but why can't she just you know get over it kind of less callously perp Yeah, and then she even says to kratos. How could you expect me to just move on? I've been like given so much fucking damage and uh All of this is Extensively addressed. Okay. I just don't know what else to say This is in chilles atreus, and I was absolutely rooting for her at this part. Do you hate it? Oh, okay. Do it. You really hate atreus, but if she kills him now, he can't Well, never mind Really hates atreus, but no, she lets him go and funny enough. I actually forgot what happened in the next I also completely forgot about this asshole. He's a completely worthless character voiced by I'm not even familiar with prosy d, but what a fucking good job you did with ratatosca. Oh, yeah He was really good and look at this little fellow. Look at him. Tell it's him. Secondly is impressive ratatosca is a quest giver Yeah, yes. Yeah, it's not you can't I just I mean provider. Yeah, unless you mean worthless character in terms of characterization But then at that point we get insides into the tree Exactly. He's like traveling between the realms and everything a very unique character And he gives us a bunch of lore about how everything works. I don't understand much and of course Stopped with the stupid chime one of the funniest. Yeah I miss in the whole game. That's great. That's all his Fuck couple out in play. I had to review my footage because I literally forgot The crew then goes to alfheim You forgot that they went to alfheim. I have to watch my own screen. Don't you worry Listen this part is gonna get rough, right? Okay. Okay, you're a fucking rocky ride as to why he forgot Oh Wisdom from groha the keeper of knowledge And eventually after fighting your way through the now light elf dominated landscape and guess what the light elves are bad too Everyone's a bad guy in war. Who would have thought? The developer's trying to tell me that ukraine Wait, wait till the sky What was that I was in the middle of a fight. I'm gonna roll it back so you guys could appreciate what the fuck just happened It turns out it was to seek wisdom. I like how everyone heard that one word. So now everyone's like, wait From groha the keeper of knowledge And eventually after fighting your way through the now light elf dominated landscape and guess what the light elves are bad too Everyone's a bad guy in war. Who would have thought are the developers trying to tell me that ukraine aren't the universal good guys Who are going to save the world and defeat those What are you He's not pro russia. Is he I think I think this is just what he's not saying Listen, there is a brain poisoning that's happening and and like he's he just has to see everything is connected to modern day event It couldn't be That the game itself has something to say about some conflicts Doesn't have to be connected to anyone in particular And that it's relevant to the story being told now if you wait, I'm gonna play all the references that he's clearly missed Um to help you understand what this game was trying to say about the war between the light elves and the dark elves It's not talking about brain and russia. That's not in fact This game was probably in development for years and years and years before that started How did they know fringy? How did they know fun fact for everybody? 2018 the game came out in 2018 2018 and that game started development on the point is made that there's no clear bad guy when you go to alfheim Even though a trace interprets it all as well the dark elves are the bad guys obviously and kratos is like We don't know that shit, man. Why are you saying that and when you kill the dark elf leader? He says you've made a huge mistake now This game finally gets us the context of how that was a mistake though you came Russia stuff happened 20 So let's just let's just see the game address it themselves first I'm surprised as somebody hasn't tried to cancel sony santa monica for this What? Okay, what we're showing that wars wait wait till this guy learns about world war one Are you saying Ukraine might not be the good guys? Oh, no the developers can't be saying that are remember he said this whole game is soy Without a joke You know he legitimately believes it but the thing is it doesn't fit the narrative of the game being soy So now he has to just jump to like making fun of them for being that bold Is he okay? No No, he's not I guess Is he one of those like crazy Right wing people who thinks that rushes the good guys and all this like I wouldn't even pretend to know I have no fucking clue. I just don't know how I get How did you draw that out of the fucking elf war? What are you doing? Guys come on. Yeah, I thought Ukraine was They were always the good guys. They were What are you talking about? Dude, I want Cory Barlogs. See this Imagine Cory Barlogs live reaction to It's only light now I guess and light is also bad the dark and the light are both bad. Yeah, it's Expectations subverted Yeah, how about that? Let's see what the game has to say you interfered in the elf war not by choice We sought to fill our bifrost and they attacked us the dark elves were covering it with their sticky hive stuff When we freed it light up came back He seemed better in alpha Did they now I see the elves continue their war. Yeah So much for things being better in alpha. We don't want to hurt you. We do not have a choice We're the ones who freed the light Why are you fighting us? We helped you last time at reyes. Focus Most unfortunate they attacked us more will follow once we're inside Is there truly no other way? Not like they're giving us much of a choice. So your father said I'm just naive I suppose. No Just an optimist old friend This statue depicts the elves before the war before they discovered the power of the light Solid life Yes, something don't change After the creation of the nine realms the fallen souls began to gather down in those waters When the elves discovered its potential they built this temple to harness that energy a smashing success to see the least Many of them became addicted to their newfound power and thus the light elves were born Temple looks so different than I remember it was all broken and covered in hive stuff last time we were here These elves use alpine's light And themselves by the look of it. So if these elves used the light to build doors and make themselves stronger What did the dark elves want with it to return it back to its source? To them the natural resources of alfheim are sacred none more so than the light itself I the light elves success came at a terrible price Alfheim's once lively desert weathered into a storm-ridden wasteland soon after the creation of this temple I get it now. Why they keep fighting Dark elves want the souls in the light left alone. The light elves want to keep using them That's the long and short of it. Hi So then in case you didn't be right Treyas is here to you know Give the simply the skinny for you. I was gonna say, but we're almost reaching The end of this and that there's a big point that this is going to be Sort of echoing Remember who tear is when all this stuff is being said early. Is it so simple? I'm not our place to say this is an elven conflict I said as much the last time we were in alpine Right here the last time we were here We killed the dark elf Unfortunate I'd wondered what became of smartly offer. We had to defend ourselves But when he died, he told us we helped the wrong side I see All this time about the dark elf came I thought all the dark elves were What an employed say it Are you certain that's the right question I What's the right question is there a right side exactly What do you think atreyas is there a right side in this war? I I don't know Then perhaps you shouldn't pick one So it's pretty straightforward. You've you've bumped into something You have no understanding of instead of with basic information trying to pick a side and fight for them Back the fuck away. It's nothing to do with you. You don't understand it Or you can try and find out more and then make an informed decision I think that's one of the most like mature ways of approaching a fucking active war You know nothing about the history of anything. However, instead of a tear is telling atreyas all of this Why would tear be invested in telling atreyas that when there's an active battle between any two factions that you shouldn't just assume One side is evil and one side is good No story relevant reason not story relevant at all. It's probably real It's not like odin has not like the other ones and it's trying to attract us on to maybe reconsider his stance No, no that didn't happen That's not like he's trying to instill seeds of doubt in his convictions Yeah hatred of odin maybe make him consider whether it's blind hatred For his own ends Yeah, I'm considering when they when they finally meet up Uh, you go like oh, but you you're open-minded. You're not like the other ones blah blah blah You've got questions and whatnot when he gives him a sword. He says yeah, you can have it as a gift and I'm the bad guy Yeah, exactly. People say I'm the bad guy, which by the way worked very well What a kindly old man. I like this guy And light is also bad the dark and the light are both bad guys It's not paying any attention at all It's yeah, it's it's a focus on it. It's like maybe it's a hyper focus on just Light and darkness as concepts or that light supposed to be good and dark supposed to be bad I won't even engage with it if it says otherwise I think he's almost reading it wrong from from his own like it's not that they're both evil. That was not the point at all It's the he's come to the complete wrong conclusion. That's what I mean. It's just like it's more complicated to be fair But even if it was I think they're both evil and that's why I think this is stupid That's that's kind of that's just the Anita Sarkeesian Bio shock infinite criticism. It's like, oh wait, you're saying that this conflict is not just Paragons of virtue versus evil people. There's nuance to it. That's sexist and it's like what? Well, so some of you might be wondering why is it that you forgot this entire section? Why is it he had to check his own streams and why do you have such a weird conclusion about this storyline? So let's have a look at maybe his attitude toward dialogue Forgive me if I don't pay attention to the countless pointless dialogue. Quit talking. Go for the game You really want to hear all this shitty dialogue dude blow the 70 dollars yourself on the shitty game If you really care about the dialogue, by the way, it didn't go in and look into hate or anything Oh, I didn't like it before I've laid it. Yeah That's the ultimate cope In fact, actually if you're asking to hear the dialogue again, you're part of the problem What an absurd thing to say What a ridiculous thing to say If you want to engage with the story, you're part of the problem You're part of the problem for trying to engage with the story that they're presenting Yeah to be able to form a conclusion about it by listening to it. You're part of the problem Actual child just definitive. I showed you all the dialogue of this action He ignored it and then he came to a conclusion this fucking bizarre and then he's complaining that if you were to complain about that He would say you're part of the problem. Now. You might be wondering out of what problem. Let's let him answer that The light Co In fact, actually if you're asking to hear the dialogue again, you're part of the problem All this sauce none of this matters Oh, sorry, I guess it's not in that clip. He's talking about the triple A gaming industry The narrative and movie games if you want to hear the dialogue Then that means you're encouraging them. Yes. That's the problem with the the movie game. That's yeah. Yeah, that's that's the issue No listening to dialogue anymore everyone Stop it elves are bad, too Everyone's a bad guy in war. Who would have thought in fact? Actually if you're asking to hear the dialogue again You're part of the problem Your opinion is shit and no one should take you seriously ever again on any video Fuck I wasn't paying attention who's fray talking about Chat fill me in if you're not paying attention here God damn. Yeah. Well, listen to what he says, right? She's talking about gnaw the new valkyrie queen And how we got to deal with it. Look what he says And who's mad at us? Not that it matters the next game is not going to be here Either it'll be about a trace or they're going to reboot it finally. I hope they He's saying it doesn't matter who she's talking about because we're not going to beat them. Anyway gnaw the fucking edgame boss in this game Yeah, it's all right though. He admitted. He's not paying any fucking attention. Also. I hope wait, wait, wait, wait How can he say this concerning what he thought about tear earlier? What's the vision though? Well, no like remember how he was saying that 2018 he was saying that 2018 Was setting us up to go find tear. That's what he said So with that being said by him How could he possibly think here at the end of this game that there's no way we're going to possibly be meeting these other characters Because he said we're going to be rebooting or we're going to be doing a game about atreus Therefore we couldn't possibly meet this person that these characters are talking about Even though we can do that right now in this game that you're playing or we could do it in a trace game Or we could do it in a reboot And do it in all of those. I don't know. Yeah, this point is completely They you know, honestly, I let it die because sony can't be trusted with the gout of let it die my my dude Let it die when it's the biggest thing and right. I don't think it's successful. It's only exclusive. I'm pretty sure Yeah, it's the most successful the god of war franchise has been has ever been. Yeah Yeah, let's just cut off that conversation. I remember this thing in the last one too Why even bother reviewing this game if you like it just don't give a shit about the game Why what a dick? I hope we never hear the rest of the story Is this meant to scare me? Well, you should know It's working. Why is he talking? I'm upgrade because that's what characters. Why are you talking? Oh my god, I'd rather listen to cindery than listen to you Need to talk. I'm I'm fucking Fuck you dude. What is with this game? I'm I'm doing it. He just despises the concept of dialogue That's the only like no snowy dialogue. You could reach no dialogue is bad That's the problem with the with the triple a games. It's they have dialogue in them. They have dialogue It's already mean characters say things I could always just be a bit like slightly interested. It's like what's the problem the dialogue it exists. Oh, well Back to square one. It's pretty clear that he just wants all of the NPCs to shut the fuck up Sell him items repair his gear and just not be present within the narrative in any way They they exist only to facilitate his murder I'm doing something. You don't need to talk to engage me. Like what I hate. I hate it I hate it. Give me my janky ps1 bullshit any day over this It's part of five sounds like this guy journey probably complain because he's just a look at reyes. All right He'd say how come no one's saying anything. Yeah, they interrupt his stupid ass who cares god You know what people can shit on item description descriptions from souls as much as they want But at least it made engaging with the world optional the game telling you what uh What at least it made engaging with the world optional Why like, you know, this is we need like a full fucking reset to base foundational levels where you sit him down and you ask Why do you play video games? Well, so he would ask you the same he'd be like why the fuck you playing it just to have story and dialogue I want to play for gameplay bro Because those things are mutually exclusive to one another you cannot have an experience That has gameplay and story especially mingling No, they'll be called movie games and I don't want that shit. I want games It's no way games. Oh, yeah, you're a snowy But the backstory is shittier than item descriptions Very nice talking with two would be the best game ever if no, I dog steps worked on it With japan's oversight Oh, awesome. You're just talking over. I'm really not paying attention that much I just love it was bad enough having atreus and memir talking now. I have tear talking to Stop Like I was I was I was I was barely joking when I said he just despises dialogue in games He wants all npcs to not say anything to shut up to be quiet to just Give him items and repair his shit so we can go out and murder some more. That's it It's like it it's literally the mindset of a child who was who who's just um Shocked at the idea that other people get to like have opinions and thoughts By the way, if you just want gameplay you just want a Dumb game this game is out there for you. I'm playing one right now. EDF. I just shoot at big ends That's all I'm doing. I was about to ask if why did he buy this game? I don't like pulling this one out But oh to review it. He's he's been asked on his stream. Why and he said I review it and that's my job Wow, but you're engaging with it. Like you're talking over dialogue Yeah, and you're still you already knows it shit Remember the last of us too I think I would have had the same approach on my stream for that game as I would have for ragnarok If you go watch it, I shut the fuck up whenever people talk and it's like, oh, yeah, you must have loved that game It's like, oh, yeah Favorite game best game top game. I have to respect that it has information We do this with all the marvel movies we've been covering recently We don't just talk over the cinema or wherever else we may be watching them Don't go blah blah blah blah blah blah whenever it's like I need to know what they say so that I can judge it Yeah, if I remember the last of us streams The worst ever was was he would like it pause from time to time when you found something extremely I needed to talk and I kind of yeah, you're like hey. Hey, I still remember mani getting shot That was one of my favorite moments in life Oh, he was such a horrible. Oh my god. Remember. He's the one to spat on jules corpse Not a fun guy This anymore knuckles is the only knuckles and ruse are the only arguably black characters and sonics What I may have wait Come again Sorry, I was listening to the dialogue in the game because it's much more interesting. What is it? This is the thing. I wanted to show that he was talking over the dialogue But man that clip is fucking priceless. Just listen Stop just stop talking. Just stop. Don't talk anymore Knuckles is the only knuckles and ruse are the only arguably black characters and sonics She's a bat Isn't he red? Hold on I don't know It's good to know it's good to know these things. I'm happy to know It tranches by the way, so you can think of it as a first sona an unofficial unofficial trans character Okay Trace turning into a wolf being no, he's talking about sonic I don't know. I actually needed all I was trying to show was he talks over the dialogue I skipped a christmas party for that. Everyone's a bad guy in war. Who would have thought? I wasn't paying attention No, that's my fault. Not the game's fault. It's my fault After fighting your way to the end of the level the gang discovers that the prophecy that groha told odin was a lie And that ragnarok would not be the end of all things but only as guards specifically And atreus now believes that he will be the champion that leads all these armies Kratos obviously does not like the idea of this again. Now that he's a cartoonishly overprotective father And it is cartoonishly overprotective to not want your son to go to war. I want your son to go to war I don't want my son to go to war with us. Busy. Busy. Yes, noi So the writers decided we don't have enough forced melodrama yet. So we get a kind of bizarre moment But what if flokey going to ironwood? It's the only way that Are atreus My son So he said that that comes out of nowhere. Let's let's see if it comes out of nowhere. I should be out there Finding out who I am who loki is I will not allow you to pick a fight with gods someone that could give us answers about the giants and who loki's supposed to be Atreus wouldn't that help to understand what i'm becoming atreus until you learn control No one necessary risk There's something you should see no Just trust me. You'll want to You'll have broken my trust He knows tear could unite the realm of jensen Plus who was the giant's greatest ally? So enough Maybe they just need a couple of gods to come along and take the fight to him atreus. That is not why we are here I was only joking war is not a joke Especially where gods are concerned It seems atreus you intend to recruit tear as an ally for war. I just I'm trying to keep our options open Maybe finding tears our best protection Seemed like odin really didn't want us to find her Once tears free and can be god of war again Odin won't have time to worry about us if that is his war to fight He may have it father What if a war with odin isn't just tears to fight? What if it's ours too war is not the only way? Okay, so we came here looking for tear because we don't trust odin right if you think about it war could Uh-oh Sure hoped here's here atreus. We seek information. I know Stop acting like i'm trying to start a war yet. You do not say otherwise Maybe we can lay this to rest a bit, eh? I can't help but feel like you're angry with me or something Ever since we got to spardo farm you've been critical of my every move If you don't think I can lead us just say so you do is not your competence. That is in question Okay, but what does that mean consider your intent? I intend to help the god of war stop odin and that means freeing him from whatever prison he's in right now tear Well, I certainly don't think this is where tear come layers. He's gotta be here somewhere This mine is huge atreus What do you intend to stop odin from doing? You speak as if you know his plan. I don't know his plan. That's why Brothers With fimble winter underway and ragnarok around the corner odin will be desperate Whatever he's planning to do surely won't be to the benefit of anyone but himself exactly Okay, new exercise. Let's think about tears probably feeling locked up in this mine If I were imprisoned by odin and finally freed odin would obviously be at the top of my list But I would just want to fight something anything Even if it was just to know it's so good Atreus another mental exercise Would one who spends their life fighting such as tear? Have any desire to prove themselves to prove Weak of destruction, but if the wake of destruction is a bunch of bad guys Why does that matter? You're strong and you did the right thing war does not measure the strength of a man I hope one day you understand Why risk odin's wrath to free me? Well Ragnarok is coming I hope you knew that We thought you'd want to help you Freed me only to start a war No Um, we can beat odin. We are not present in any of this But that was tear leading the charge against asgard Plyce hell's army was there in the elves champion Okay, whoever that is doesn't matter. Look I just want to do the right thing And according to prophecy speak no more of prophecy War will not give you the purpose you seek Only slaughter So what are we supposed to do? Roll over Do nothing enough You want war treas Seaf yourself the legacy this one has left for the barons. What if the giants are counting on me? What giants? If you're safe that use the judgment of a man and not of a child And so the writers decided we don't have a If you didn't come out of nowhere He's already we've we've had a huge amount of dialogue of craters trying to be patient with the treas Who constantly seems to be looking to start a war and his motivation is behind I want to find out more about loki and I want to stop odin and I want to charge into war Even craters had to say like war is not a measure of a man's strength Atreus is clearly into it all and craters is losing his fucking patience the more the game goes on This is not out of nowhere Enough drama yet. So we get a kind of bizarre moment But what if loki going to ironwood it's the only way that Are atreus In fact actually if you're asking to hear the dialogue again, you're part of the problem All this sucks none of this matters I don't know dude. How about you just stop sharing your shitty opinion. There's an idea. Hey, oh I do still like that delivery, but there's an idea is what makes Here's an idea. Am I the only one who thinks cindy is like a groomer or pedophile or something? What? Yes, I don't even know what he would say that. What? Yeah, yeah Exactly. It is actually just you Of the seven million people on the planet. What's literally just you? See I lied you into a sense of security with all those clips. You were like back to safety No longer like you and you just hit us with that. Yep, like out of nowhere. You just hit us with it There you go. You're having this now What is the count of this just no he's a friend. Yeah, this is a big fan Are you okay? Yeah, that's okay. Well, you mentally like Every trace is by himself cindy is also there is like a creepy tiny old man No, because he's urging all the strange whims knowing each other for a long time. He doesn't know what friends are Also, he literally can't recognize a friend We had to pick the one character in the whole story that has an aversion to touching anybody Yeah That atreus has against his father kind of reminds me of certain discord communities I just need to look out for the people I care about I actually don't bad things from happening to them There's like a pedo working for sony who's like cindy should be with atreus in every scene Stop it No, you're you're you should have a luck right because if it's a guy hanging out with atreus He accuses him of being a pedophile, but if it's a girl hanging out with atreus then They're not sexy enough There's not enough Real fucking lose lose atreus has to be alone forever. Yeah, why are they sincerely hope I never have to do it again If that's what you're asking They are pushing the gay vibes. They really are. Oh my god. I literally right after him saying I never want to do that again You good What is going on? Someone make a gay joke I miss the opportunity. I don't know cindy. It just sounds like a bundle of sticks Stop it There's a lot to be full woke like these devs if they would make them like Lovers to some shit I don't know what to say I'm speechless row what it did I'm actually I just don't know Cindy they made even gayer. I feel like then he was before So right after saying pedo. He says he's gayer than ever The the fucking meme about how people try to blur the line between gays and pedos The real great rhetoric fun stuff So I'm just I'm getting that vibe Disturbing like literally just pedo vibes. It's it's you lines them right well Hmm All right time to continue the giant race. Let's go Oh, they'll talk about race. Not even gonna kiss. Let's just go for it. Why would I'm in you're in Why would he kiss her? They just met just he just said I'm in I'm in I'm in to kiss. I wish I could I mean if it was me there I would kiss her Not that I would but I mean, you know if that was made that I mean I'm gonna assume the I in question was him delivering the line as a trace Um, I think he means I'm in as in as a as a consumer of the product I'm in for this this event of repopulation like Absolutely, I mean he was he was pretty much explicit about it earlier. All right time to continue the giant race. Let's go We're skipping dates. Not even gonna kiss. Let's just go for it I'm in She's a child, bro They're the last two of the species dude, and it's ancient Norse. Okay Someone educate this Plank slate This is these are ancient times that the fucking age consent didn't exist the stir. It's okay Whatever with the first sentence. I was like, oh, that was probably a stupid joke But then you said this and now I'm just like Oh look I'll like Uh, never let this man have a time traveling machine. We just never let him do it Never ever let him have a time traveling machine when like hey friendly chat audience right when you play in a game and you see two young people very very young people and you start suggesting they should have sex and someone says to you man Pretty weird vibes. They're they're a bit young. They're obviously saying can you please stop talking about the children having sex? Please and his response is age of consent didn't matter endorse types As if that as if that addresses that means it's okay It's okay, man. I'm not talking about the game. I'm talking about you, bro If they repeal the laws of age of consent, then it's totally fine. We're good. We're solid my dude What exactly are the laws and iron especially after ripping into cindery who just tries to save the lives of his friends for being a pedo Plank slate this is these are ancient times that the fucking age consent didn't exist Disturbing like pedo vibes And so now atreus starts singing of iron wood which earlier yorman gander told him about And he is transported into a magical pocket dimension First he starts seeing visions of the worst moment from the last game where as a small child He kills Thor's son in cold blood. It still pisses me off to this day that kratos I don't know if that's considered cold blood. He said he fucked his mom and uh Enjoy killing them and stuff. It was rather hot blooded. I'd say it's hot blooded. Yeah Didn't be in the other is that element of if this person Wait, sorry. What did he just say? Sorry What did he just say there? I don't know rewind it the last game where as a small child He kills Thor's son in cold blood It still pisses me off to this day that kratos didn't beat his son immediately after that What the hell What Kratos would do that. What about kratos's character? That would be incredibly out of character. He would want to swell If I got him worked out with all my being. Oh, just kill this guy. I'm gonna be the fuck out of you. It's like, what? Yeah, I could probably video just about the emasculation of kratos in this game You're emasculated if you don't beat your children. If you don't beat your kids. You're not a real man. All right. Wow Yeah Kratos nice. I love these sorts of people. We have to do is love learning about this man. It'd be great I'm glad that this guy. I'm glad that he'll never reproduce. I'll just say that I'm really fortunate about that Kratos's most significant demon like in his psyche is the memory of killing his wife and daughter And so he would beat his son is what you're saying There's no way like that's the last thing he would do is hurt Is her to trace or fey that's the last thing kratos would do and that's not him being rewritten That's that's the kratos from the greek mythology games. Yeah He's trying to kill himself for the entire first game gods of war are always violent regardless of context But we'll get more later so now that he's been shown the worst parts of himself He wakes up inside of ironwood this magical forest being protected by giant magic And he meets our token black character for this game Angrobota is a complete. I'll have you know that there are multiple token black characters Sir completely left out the other black characters. How could he? But uh Seriously, you're not ready for what he's about to say would this magical forest being protected by giant magic And he meets our token black character for this game Angrobota is a completely fucking pointless character She does nothing of relevance in the plot except give loki a bag of marbles Literally saves everyone's life How did you miss this this old man does nothing in the story He just gives luke this little baton that has blue light and tells him to use the force While he's flying an x-wing Oh Look, he didn't listen to the dialogue. Okay. That was he's supposed to know She does nothing of relevance in the plot except give loki a bag of marbles I realized most gamers are midwits these days rip. Well, most people are midwits Tell me with a straight face that this character wasn't added just for the sake of diversity, you know, it was Let me help you with your argument You mean she was cast only for diversity. The character is in the story for many reasons So like that's what you want to say. You don't want to say the character is only here for diversity Angra boater is a fucking Norse mythology too What happens if Santa Monica's like now she was actually the best actress Well, so what let's go further just pretend that that is reality if you knew for a fact She was hired because of how impressive they thought your acting was That's an alternative reason so It could be that it could it could be that it could be they want to score diversity points as you like There you go. It could be either but ultimately sure that's an issue with this character Yes, she This does gotta be because like obviously she didn't have a complete arc She didn't have relevance in the plot as he put it. She did nothing apart from provides some marbles Eye of all cult mythologies would normally the whitest place on earth have black characters I'm sure you know a whole lot about the movements of different people in medieval times Let's have a little look see at his familiarity with Norse mythology, shall we? Oh, no expert. All right. Well, he knows all about the fucking age of consent He's an expert on that element. Yeah, let's see how invested he is in Norse mythology All right, because you might be thinking sitting at home. Okay. Yeah Maybe he doesn't know like the nature of Thor and Jormungandr's battle and how it ends specifically or maybe Let's say just shot in the dark Hilda's Vini is an actual ball that was with Freya. You know, you might not know stuff like that. Sure But he's gonna know the basics like yeah, okay. Let's have a look Yeah, I'm sure this What was even she even the god I've already forgotten Like well, I'm on mad Does not know whether Freya is a god like Really? That's not a great stuff He asked as if he thought that she would be the god of something No, he He didn't say what is she the god of he said is she a god of is she a god of Don't you don't you worry. He said I've forgotten it sounds like all of I'll give it to you But listen to it. All right, trust me because I was fucking surprised what I heard Yeah, I'm sure this What was even is she even the god I've already forgotten Is she even a god I've already forgotten Cool Oh, okay. Is she even a god this game is massive disappointment to nor nor smithology. Yeah, um Yeah, is she even the god I've already forgotten Apple core You know what like it this kind of stems from this concept of You know, you don't have to have like strong opinions on everything And you don't have to profess knowledge on every topic. You could just say I don't know much about nor smithology I wonder how accurate this is or Something along those lines, right? You don't have to have such strong opinions out of the gate on everything You're gonna have to go through it a couple times people aren't listening They think he's actually saying is she the god by the way, that's still terrible that he had no idea That she's the god of anything but uh, it's not what he's saying Trust me the sentence structure wouldn't make any sense if you were saying what you're trying to improve it with I don't mean that. I don't know. I'm not even that. I'm sure this I wasn't even intentionally trying to improve What was even she even the god I've already forgotten She even a god I've already forgotten. I've already forgotten. He's not saying is she a god of already forgotten That's not what he's saying. I think I've already forgotten Listen to it again and again even if Yeah, I'm sure this What was even is she even the god of already forgotten is she even a god I've already forgotten He kind of says what was and then he stutters for a second then is she even Yeah, no, you're right. The first thing he was gonna say is what was she the Theoretically, what was she the god of but then he questions whether or not she's even a god. Oh, okay Very very straightforward Sometimes just forget all those things you don't know Norse mythology. Yeah, um Yeah, if she don't worry, you're about to find out how little he knows about fryer. Anyway, there's more to it Even the god I've already forgotten The apple core It's not very norse sounding if I had known how much they would already butcher norse mythology leading up to this You see the norse they didn't know about apple cores. You see they didn't know that at the middle of an apple there's There's a middle of the apple I wonder what his thoughts on the rainbow bridge are You see the norse didn't know about rainbows or bridges It was a dull world where transversal across large chasms or bodies of water included alternative methods rainbow road, um Yeah, it really does that she's black at this point. It's like they don't even give a fuck They're already spitting in the face of anyone who cares about norse mythology I already did wait a minute. Is there no Valhalla? If they're already dead, why are they in asgard or not? It's almost there She even the god I've already forgotten. Well, you know, if I was a conspiracy theorist, I would say they're purposely subverting a Let's just say Indisputably white culture Indisputably white What does that even mean? What is what is white's culture? What is that? um He he hearted this comment bolder He gets the worst treatment bolder supposed to be kindest and fairest of the gods Boulder would allow the gods to throw rocks at him in jest because of his immortality However, Loki took mistletoe gave it to a blind god horde and directed it at bolder Boulder died instantly since the mistletoe went through him cleanly the action broke up Loki with his blood brother Odin as bolder's death signified Ragnarok He could have been brought back but Loki refused to mourn him. So what the writers did was twist it They took what the boulders invincibility and they made it so that he couldn't feel And then they put that to its logical end point Uh The boulder you're seeing described as part of norse mythology is something that the writers would have had him be at first before freya applied the arguably curse And you got Thor Thor's a big lug with red hair and fiery red eyes a loving family man and while a drinker it is only to the extent of being a Partier and is known to accept cheap swill if offered genuinely and graciously So the implication is I guess that it's an assassination of his source material because Uh, he becomes aggressive and alcoholic instead of just a drinker for fun Just like remarkable how close they got to the source considering you know Uh, like everyone's absolute frustrations with him freya and alfreya freya is freya I mean the lady knows vast magic is the goddess of war leads the valkyries taught odin a great deal of magic that being said He still went into every living thing including the other acia to ask for their word that wouldn't harm her newborn son boulder when she did she sadly Couldn't prevent or resuscitate him. That just sounds accurate Mm-hmm. I don't even know why that's being listed like Alongside the other ones, but you know Uh, odin lends all sorts of magic and genuinely seen as a sort of god of shamanistic knowledge esoteric knowledge and in some cases death I mean to learn how to master certain runes. He hanged himself from igjasil the will tree for nine days nine nights Respectively learned fate magic fate magic was seen as mostly a female magic and freya from freya and other women mages Loki Loki is odin's blood brother and both enjoys others company They like to discuss magic that being said Loki likes chaos Whether it's disrupting a dinner party by starting gossip and watching the calamity ensue Heading off sifts golden braids as a prank or simply reusing Refusing to mourn boulder refusing him life. Loki is often attributed with snakes and wolves Basically god of war 18 and 22 get some things consistent, but either muddy or destroy aspects of norse far more Wrong than the greek games ever did or the greek saints did I can't believe we could even say that with the greek games What could you compliment about the greek games of their accuracy? You'd be like well Uh, the gods did beat the titans After that there was never a person named kratos who became the god of war There's never a person named kratos that looks and sounds and does all the things that kratos does in that game But they all looked kind of how I would common sense intuitively expect them to from a pop culture perspective kind of Yeah, maybe hades know Although I don't know. Most people didn't like hades design and or at least a lot of people didn't when god of war 3 came out I think it's because you're kind of expecting the devil and he seemed Well, I've seen people say that uh, hades is not described that way It's not in they know It was a super chat that said like that was never what I would expect him to look like from the source and all they adapted it um So this is the thing beating these it's like, oh, I can see how all of these ended up in the game And it makes me think they must have known and understood the norse before adapting it Which is kind of what you want So it's weird that he loved this comment It's simultaneous. He says like oh, they've destroyed it It's uh, this is what we call stolen valour. He's pretending to care about norse mythology to make you Like better align with his opinion If there are everyone's a norse mythology expert really annoying Why are they in asgard or not? Is she even the god I've already forgotten Well, you know if I was a conspiracy theorist, I would say they're purposely subverting a Let's just say Indisputably white culture, right? They're they're purposely subverting Uh, white culture. I you know, maybe I shouldn't continue the first time Oh, okay. I suspect I'm being suppressed in the algorithm, but I didn't want to finish the comment right Even what's ended from and you week so highly about professing the truth. There's only one more stop There's only one more place this can go. Yeah, it feels like we know where it's going, but yeah, whatever he didn't finish. That's fine If she even the god I've already forgotten when am I going to scandinavia to study norse mythology and Viking history? Never It sucks that I'm too honest. It really sucks that I'm too honest Well, it doesn't matter because I'm a bigot for asking I'm a racist for even noticing in the first place And I couldn't even tell you the real answer if I wanted to because I'd be banned from youtube And it doesn't help that all of her dialogue sounds like modern dialect It's like if a redditor was transported back to ancient scandinavia An angrobota is not the only character that speaks in new speak. Mameer does it a lot as well And it is incredibly distract speak I'd recognize that dower expression anywhere that that's straight out of 1984 Frustrating for all the time As a reference for how he has a good casual, but non anachronistic dialect Well, the thing is all of the characters at times will say things we are like wow, that sounds like it's from Way later than it's based in and I think that's just yeah, okay. There you go. That is a criticism I suppose the only thing I would say is it's across the board So they're trying to make it consistent with Their characters except maybe I don't know if kratos ever says anything that strikes you as modern Kratos the valkyries those the main yeah the valkyries He's also well, I mean like they're also very very You know straight man serious character. I don't mean. Oh god. I don't mean heterosexual I mean I just realized how that that's that sounded but so then sort Sounding the least modern I think makes some sense And it does I like it or not it does kind of become the style of the game and it is consistent It's not like there's all of a sudden one person who sounds like a teenager from 2022 And everyone else sounds like they're you know, like in an actual norse fantasy land It's uh, I mean this is all getting past the fact that they're all speaking English and they pretty much all have american accents, right? Very true. You should be going No one is not being scottish apparently in the mirror is unlike kratos having an american accent in greece as well Like from that era and also some other characters having american accents, but some characters having english accents Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't say the authenticity isn't exactly Pretty serious. I would imagine it's always been kind of inconsistent, right? Yeah Getting awkward when kratos would be saying oh, let's go dab on odin or something That's probably not the thing he would say He would code though that ancient greece and ancient roman sound bird What that combined with all the quips Completely removes any tension from any scene in the game characters cannot shut the I often say quips are the uh scene killer quips kill tension Rue Fuck up It's still in the way. Stop telling me what the fuck to do. She's literally getting me killed and it doesn't help The game by far It's two straight fucking hours of not just atreus's brain dead gameplay But walking in a straight line listening to a worthless character talk about things that don't matter They kind of I don't know about the point of the whole game is addressed uh here in terms of Active on fate and prophecy and what atreus tells her here is why everyone lives at the end of the game Yep And worst of all it ends with you fighting angrobotas giant grandma Who is stealing the souls of the animals in the forest because life is pointless This shit comes out of fucking nowhere and it speaking of shit coming out of nowhere. I gotta go to the bathroom I'll be right back Um Yeah, I mean I don't understand the the criticism really it's like The the giants have been set up as people who can whisper souls into other items This is a grandmother who hates the idea of prophecy. She's one of the only people in the family who Used to go against a hardcore and instead Acknowledges that life is pain that we have to find ways to deal with it Sort of more engaging and fun than the realities that we exist with that involves taking the souls of animals and experiencing What they do temporarily Take her away from the life Yeah, that doesn't seem to come out of nowhere Um, no neither she has a family member that's gone this direction. It provides her a lot of comfort It only exists to give angrobota a purpose in the story Well, I thought she was pointless She does nothing of relevance on the plot rather than give Loki a bag of marbles And it only exists to give angrobota a purpose in the story I'm confused With anybody telling you this game is fucking mature Just take one look at this boss battle and tell me with a straight face That this game is fucking mature. This is some baby game. Shit. This is kingdom hearts level Oh, the giant voodoo black woman throws Why do you mention so what part of it makes it childish the giant don't know or the black woman I don't know Out she's black. Don't know. Uh, I don't know why that has anything to do with Child I just I don't get it edge. You gotta for pot You gotta shoot the symbol to stop her Two weak points on everything all the time. I don't even What does that have to do with whether or not it's childish and there's nothing about this that is god of war You don't kill her at the end Yeah, you don't even get to kill the her grandmother Ah, sorry Shad kratos. You weren't like fucking turn her into confetti at the end of the fight It's quite explicit about the whole not wanting to kill the grandma. Yeah You don't aim her in some way. No, there's just some weird message about how Why wouldn't you trace what a weird message? That's not a trace at all. He'd be on board with killing her to prevent damage from happening But again, that's that's cut off by angra boda. She's like, no, she's my grandma Angra boda will always be in atreus's shadow just a minor character in his story kind of based This is simultaneously both hilarious and extremely cringe. If you didn't cringe at this You were a woke beyond any recovery Oh Well, I am I am woke beyond recovery. That's a new one. I can put that on my hospital with you Oh IV drip of Mr. Hospital, can I have some anti woke? Give me the red pill. Please I need to become chad. I can't find a way to be based There is for you this is awful You just can't admit it because you don't want to be called racist. It's Which is funny because You know, you could dislike it for any reason at all But he's like you're only not doing that because you don't want to be called Like what no, I can just talk about how I don't like the mechanics of the fight Or I don't like the area or I don't like the characters anything You don't have to be that she's black. Why'd you go there first, man? Really? That's While I do think angrobota's grandmother was a little strange I'm pretty sure angrobota explains the reasoning behind it She's taking the souls for the experiences of the animals, which I think they implied she grew addicted to I notice you're completely brushing over the woke cringe factor here The person tries to provide the context for why she doesn't come out of nowhere He instead is like I don't know You've got no hopes here, which was once again, obviously my point of the video So you pretty much proved me correct. I knew not a single leftist would touch this shit with a 10-foot pole Oh, all right. I'm back Don't let four channels make videos What what what's what's he said now? He said that if you would Enjoy the angrobota section any way shape or form you'll woke beyond any hope and someone tried to explain What happened in that section the story and he said you've ignored the fact that I said it's woke cringe That for proving him right about something he's just right now Even though they were trying to address him saying it all came out of nowhere, but At the fear of coming across as a racist, so I accept your concession So you don't What a tonal whiplash after that emotional scene It's like we're not allowed to feel sad for one two seconds of that uh We're gonna play the scene to connect the boss fight to that tonal whiplash. Let's let's just have a look at it ourselves Okay this way He should get you back You've been gone longer than you think Angrobota, it's fine This was a long time coming We'll be back once we reach the other side of this path well, then That's two out of three Atreus race me come on. I see what you're doing. You know you want to rematch after last time. I appreciate um Last time I beat you. I'm pretty sure it was a tie pretty sure you're a cheating whore It would have been so based if he said that True So prove me wrong told me about snakes like you. One two three go fine You coming or what? Oh, no, you don't Well, that's how you do it actually that's how you switch from being pretty down dala into a much more upbeat thing A character purposefully changing the tone to cheer up another character who just went through a pretty traumatic Fam familial event. So yeah, that that makes sense to me using what he knows as well Which is they had a race earlier and made it happy. So he's trying force one out. Oh god, don't get him started on race. Molly. Oh, I'm sorry I feel like the reviewer missed so many things some of which was painfully obvious The point of the wolf race was to cheer angrobota up after the sad encounter After with her grandmother atreus literally states that at no point did I imply I didn't know this was the case. That's pretty obvious It's that simple What a tonal whiplash after that emotional scene Uh-oh, we won painless. This doesn't change the fact that it is a tonal whiplash After what is supposed to be a very sad scene the statement I made during the stream is perfect I wouldn't change anything about it. Perfect. What a tonal whiplash after that emotional scene It's like we're not allowed to feel sad for more than two seconds So really the purpose is your review so Not allowed to be sad for more than two seconds. I feel like the clip I showed was a lot longer than two seconds This game this game of all games has problems with you feeling sad. I'm sure the scene doesn't matter It's still bad. I'm still right. So I don't even know why you're right. All right I'm still right even though I was wrong. I was still right Let's see what his engagement with that connecting scene was Okay, are we done with this because I'm gonna end the stream if the if the like Hopefully if the segment's about to end I'll play to the end of the segment, but I'm gonna end the stream Isn't that a kid man Thanks fan six of two bucks. Do they have ebt in Asgard or whatever this is this is She's black so we have to make an ebt. What it was home But do you see how like you didn't all right, even fucking you didn't know idea what that happened in that scene Look it over the whole thing. So I ask what ebt is if I don't know street stamps government support Normal whiplash after that emotional scene Then this horrific section of the game ends with angrobota making atreus promise her that he would tell nobody about this place Not even his father. What purpose does this serve through the story? Nothing but more emotional conflict The fucking nerve you can't tell anyone about ironwood not even your father The biggest thing keeping this place safe is that odin's not looking for it My warts can keep the wildlife at bay, but if asgard ever came looking I get it I'm sorry I won't tell anyone What would have happened if kratos was told about ironwood nothing in fact It would be a net positive for the story Well, it depends if someone overheard it, which is precisely the point. You don't want anyone knowing That's just raving getting further that shouldn't get any further and it turns out that was quite an astute observation by her because if he had Odin himself Would have heard about it. Yeah Be it through ravens or futiles the principle of making a promise Yeah, I mean, you know do I even have to argue with us entirely in character for atreus after she asked him to Make sure do not tell anyone also atreus wouldn't at that point Because then more he's even inspired not to by his mother and father He says like you guys keep secrets to protect people Fucking waste of time shitty emotional bait cutscene bullshit And grovota may not want atreus to tell anyone because odin has a large amount of power everywhere else You're constantly tracking down his crows and the twist further solidifies how much he knew Any mention of it to anyone bore risk? Okay, but why doesn't atreus just tell kratos in private when it's dude You don't always know that you're in private. It's not listening like explaining something to a five year old It's not listening. It's only them in the room in cindery's place You can't tell anyone about ironwood not even your father As far as we know odin's ravens can't see through walls as far as you know a k odin Was listening through the door. You don't think anyone else in the house The fact that you have to do these reassurances like it's really not probable that anyone would hear it It's like that's not good enough and grovota doesn't want anyone talking about it ever to anybody The traitors agrees would have noticed and again You're brushing over the actual point that it exists to create more emotional drama between father and son That was everything exists for a purpose in the story Why? Tell us about the emotional that does the thing that the emotional expert here is gonna let us know You know, they only have broad cindery and lunda to provide like an answer to what the blacksmiths characters are fucking stupid We could have just not not appreciate this very true. It would have been so much easier reason that they put it there Clearly the writers intent, but again, you're ignoring that So atreus wakes up inside his house on midgard instead of back at cindery's place But kratos quickly finds him and confronts him where he's been Atreus dodges the question and implies that kratos needs protecting not him Are they completely retconning the end of the first game? We already saw the prophecy where kratos dies during rag Correction never saw the prophecy. Well, you kind of come you should really like remove this whole pot Why did you put a correction instead of just removing the criticism if you were editing? You just cut it out It's literally faster to cut it out than to insert the text and place it and get your Everything your shadows don't I don't get that at all. Let's just remove it Eggna rock that was literally the thing that happened at the end of the first game Well, suddenly a valkyrie shows up and it's a pretty good boss battle But it turns out it was freya as freya is the real queen of the valkyries not seagrin It wasn't enough that she's a super powerful mage who could revive a massive giant No, she's also a combat expert Countless winters we serve the old father But only through his union to the queen did we ever taste some measure of freedom But aren't you the queen? There has only been one queen of the valkyries the goddess freya When odin severed her wings I served in her absence, but it wasn't enough for the old father He used an archaic piece of magic corrupting my sisters I tried to contain the damage by imprisoning them in places where they could cause no harm, but Soon I lost myself as well Freya is the real queen of the valkyries not seagrin It wasn't enough that she's a super powerful mage who could revive a massive giant No, she's also a combat expert on par with kratos as she nearly kills him Despite the fact we win the boss battle. We effectively lose He doesn't want to fight her. Yeah because he figures out it's freya freya. Sorry Also when she says I would have killed you if not for your son. What is his response? Perhaps Perhaps he's the thing that happens whenever kratos is in a point of losing a fight. He activates spartan rage Yeah, usually gets him out of it. So I think He right here right now is dealing with the shock of this being freya and deciding not wanting to hurt her The simultaneously knows she ain't killing me Which is exactly what he says to her in van anhem Kratos nearly gets killed by odin's crackhead ex-wife Oh Description of freya crackhead just shavin it again Like gods who are just like really cool and had no flaws even though, you know Well, if they're women, they may sue if that man is pretty cool Okay, I wonder what that says Up this feminist bullshit, dude. I'm sorry. There's your answer right there. Well, there you go I knew it nearly I was wondering why there was women killed by odin's Crackhead ex-wife. You can't make this shit up. Fuck this feminist bullshit, dude. I'm so tired of this What was even she even the god I've already forgotten Everyone complained about that purple hair chick from the last I It's just as bad actually in some ways is kind of worse because she's way more present in the story from this point forward What was even she even the god I've already forgotten I don't know dude. How about you just stop sharing your shitty opinion. There's an idea Freya did not just randomly become a valkyrie. She's always been a valkyrie While this is actually correct. The fact that anyone remembers this from four years ago is deeply depressing to me Because people who don't review games are better at your job apparently. Sorry. He's huffing on that copium That's his response. It's depressing. You know this The L the L's right there like yeah, you got that wrong buddy. Like yeah, I'm fortunate. Sometimes you get things wrong and he's Labyrinths of L's now he's trying to run away down every path, but there's just another one waiting at all leads to L To the point where he's trying to gaslight us into thinking that no no no no you're you're the wrong one for No, you're the wrong one. You're the wrong one for even caring. You're wrong. I'm based I can't believe that response. Oh, sorry. I thought you cared about norse mythology No Because he hasn't even realized yet that that's accurate to norse mythology. He just thinks they're referencing a 2018 game He has no idea who freya is Well, she doesn't know she's a valkyrie or the valkyrie queen, of course No, I obsess over anything and remember every last minor detail, but In this case, you'd be the autist for being like wow, they didn't even set up that she's a valkyrie queen It's like yes, they did. It's like wow, you're the autist for knowing that like what? Absolutely anyone remembers this from for you out of nowhere and just didn't fit at all that I just blocked it from my brain I guess and once Sanity Absolute insanity scope. Here's this arrow you made. Yeah, but because you pointed out you're an autist It's like, what are you talking about when you you made the criticism someone corrected you Either come up with a better count argument Hey, stop it. It's a fucking hell That quite It's like would you set it? You're the one So annoying Once again, it doesn't change my point which was freya is a mary sue That's that's it's it sucks so much to have a character who gets this much Time and effort and work into her dialogue and her journey that we see her at her lowest points And we see her go through all this, you know, all these struggles and emotional problems Of loved ones and it still isn't enough. She's a mary sue. Oh, look, she summons the giant What the giant that atreus stops by getting uh, the big snake to attack it And then of course the fact that she died if it wasn't for kratos Well, to be fair, this gets worse. Don't worry not only is she a super powerful mage But she's also a super powerful warrior who can take on kratos Kratos is the best at everything ever Stop ruining my gary stew power fantasy. You Oh, no, the I feel like you are on point It's okay when the bed unbeatable, but when the women do it Kratos has to be Not even magic Right like kratos has incredible power with magic and with warrior stuff. So why is that okay? We just found out it's okay because it's okay He's known a lot of different types of magic over a very long period of time Did he miss the part where the first three games were about kratos is miss his fatal flaw You know his misguided anger causing destruction to himself and everything he cares about Well, so that's the funny thing. He's referred to kratos to gary stew, which he's not But it shows the double standard Yeah, uh, he thinks of things of very soon, but the thing is she's not and we're about to get into that And on top of that the story is constantly telling us how horrible kratos was in his past And now all the things he did was wrong But everything freya has done and No, no, no I can just give it a second. He's right. Okay Destroyer of all she would hope to protect she always finds somebody to blame She cannot change the game says she's always right about everything. Yeah And on top of that the story is constantly telling us how horrible kratos was in his past And now all the things he did was wrong But everything freya has done and does in this game is right I like this journal entry a lot. I was really happy with this one. I'm a big fan of it. Yeah So gna is the new Valkyrie queen you kill her and you get a book and and obviously this is regarding freya Must she always play the victim as if she has no hand in the shaping of her own fate in her eyes Her brother abandoned her because of his selfishness not because she was domineering and controlling He was exiled from her own realm because her husband was evil not because she was caught conspiring behind his back Her son was unjustly killed because of a vengeful foreigner not because she drove her own son to madness And when I kill her freya will tell whomever Whomever will listen to her in hell that it was because her former handmaiden betrayed her and not because she deserved every single thing that's happened to her Yeah It's pretty cool as an entry Might have some character development to go through and a new place to arrive at with their personality But like he can barely hear we shouldn't expect him to Your opinion is shit and no one should take you seriously ever again on any video game But instead of killing kratos, she decides to set a temporary truce as the two work together To break the curse that prevents her from traveling between the realms So you travel to vanaheim, which is like the jungle realm, I guess and there you meet the diversity squad avengers Starring Let him do it rags. It's much more funny. No And none of them except freya's brother get any kind of development whatsoever I really have no idea why they even exist. Maybe they're the writer's self insert characters But it was certainly distracting I'm sorry that you were distracted. I don't understand why they bothered to model like this dude's Avenger squad when they don't really do anything, you know Well, I guess you can't call the ladies anymore, right? Look at this diversity squad here. He really wants you got to come come on something else Let's see. Let's see, right? So he's called in the diversity squad. How does he assess that they are diverse and they are diversity squad Let's see what he does. We got a dwarf A human i'm assuming I don't know And then we got elves Two humans a dwarf and two elves Diversity squad back home at cindy's place. Well, I too hated the lord of the rings Hear him realising it So, yeah, as mark just said by the way, what was our team at cindy's house? It's like, well I mean, I guess you've got two dwarves already. So, oh, that's pretty fucking diverse, isn't it? I Legit have no idea what he's doing as rags trying to highlight like what um What are these humans again? White male Um, yeah, and then you got like the lunders like it's a white female and then two elves elves even Diverse they're just elves. Oh, you got a squirrel Squirrel magic squirrel this magic world many things just like Brain is absolutely. Relutely rotted through. It's just got nothing pretty much Everything that you look at and see it's through the lens of It's it's like What what do we say he was the he's the right version of like a hassan. What was it? No, it was organized chaos He's the right version of organized chaos No, I will say a lot of people I say a lot of people I've seen the message several times She responds to the to the coverage organized chaos did of you Rags free listen. Okay Got a little gift coming next week on e-fap. All right I think we've sorted out for you and while that's going on we'll be sorting out other things for like the christmas app Don't you worry. Don't you worry? But yes, uh, this is incredibly stupid This is like what what my conclusion is here. I'd say like they don't do anything It's like so they just the vanaheim forces trying to prevent odin's takeover of vanaheim Yeah, I don't know what like what do they need to do beyond that. What what do you want? Well, if you also if you just listen to the characters when they talk and not try to Punch them in the face every time they say a word You'll actually get some backstory from them. Like it's like one dark and one light elf They uh became a couple and whatever vanished because uh Sorry, they were both forced from their respective teams because of that Yeah, exactly there's burger who was that was one of the travelers who figured out that odin is just talking bollocks and is trying to convert other travelers to stop going the quote-unquote path Uh, yeah, there's lots to talk about but Clearly it's not been engaged with so it's just the diversity squad. That's not that diverse I guess Well, the diversity squad with no purpose that have a purpose backstories relevance in the plotline and I mean culling diverse just seems strange All right, I think like it's pretty clearly too like a a robin hood in a band of married men situation Yeah Like it's not it's not like we don't understand what what uh, sorry frayers Group is it's like, yeah, they're they're outcast to their own realms They've all kind of teamed up together and they're trying to take down odin sound familiar kratos Not to mention by the way, uh, as people point out, aren't they like integral in grabbing up all the armies? Uh, yes, then game goings like yes, but we don't talk about that. Don't talk. We need to be useless diverse In his shit and no one should take you seriously ever again on any video game Yeah Another major issue with this level is that throughout the entire thing Kratos tries to convince freya that he's not her enemy And he's sorry for what he did and she needs to move on. That's an interesting perspective. He's sorry for what he did A little bit more complicated than that, isn't it? And and he also tells her about his own family that he was tricked into killing I've already explained how this would never happen and it's pretty what would never happen You would never talk about his own family Why wouldn't he when especially when it's used for a personal reason to get somebody who had a similar experience to I mean like it comes up pretty naturally in the conversation That they have and it's something that kind of binds them together in a way the loss of loved ones Especially at sort of their own hands Needs to move on Because the writers didn't want crazy female character, but sorry He's not her enemy and he's sorry and she needs to move on And he also tells her about his own family that he was tricked into killing I've already explained how this would never happen And it's pretty clear that the only reason it does happen is because the writers didn't want kratos to kill their strong female character But what makes it what he doesn't want to kill her All writers he doesn't want to kill her after what she did in the first game Which is entirely in character. Who do you think kratos is going to value more than most people? I think it's just going to be Randoms, maybe some friends drinking buddies people who make his armor and his weapons all the person who saved his son from death You think that person might be held in kind of a high regard considering kratos's history, maybe That'll be very based though, you know, it's not a base We're at the entire thing kratos is constantly apologizing and capitulating to everything fray is saying So it's not true. He actually pisses her off several times because he won't just Admit to whatever she has to say Even like says that everything she's doing is just misplaced and then she's like, well, what the fuck am I supposed to do? I'm angry. He's just like yeah, but She also remember the part when she just tells him I kill you at the end of this Well, there was there was a part where she like tells him to just like kill things And then he's like do not tell like don't tell me that don't yeah, like that's what you can't say that to me You're not allowed to order me to do these types of things It is not He says i'm nobody's monster and you could consider that a meta line Yeah, I ain't your monster anymore. Synthetic bad. You're not gonna drive me around and kill civilians for their health orbs That's not happening anymore Mears what surter says Yes, it does He basically wouldn't even defend himself against her if she tried to kill him again So Number one he says he would absolutely not let her kill him and two Remember what he does with the axe when he asks her. Yeah, he readies himself. He gets the axe ready. Yeah Yeah, look at him. Look at the way. He's standing. That's just wrong Again, I don't know if he heard the scene don't know if He's forgotten it, but that's just not what apologizing and capitulating to everything fray is saying and he admits Let's just he don't look at him Look at the way he's standing He tried to kill him again because he could bear to kill his friend Well, why do you say it like that? Why would you want to kill someone? It would be really neat to kill your friends Hell yeah, i got a war baby No, i'm safe That's that would be the only way to stop her I did not wish to live with killing you anymore than I wished to die I see How the fuck is this kratos dude? This is such character assassination. You can't why the fuck would he do what he did to herby's to She saved his son's life Did you play the game How are you comparing this to this? What is happening? The second she saved atreus in the previous game like yeah kratos is like i'm i'm not going to kill you I'll never forget this. This is one of the biggest kill address One of the biggest comprehension misses i've ever seen this is not a good thing kratos in the first three games is not a good person No, nobody thinks he is far from it. The entire point is that he isn't Trying to be better Not just chopping people's fucking legs off like why would you play this footage? I'd be like see he should be doing this to freya because it's fucking cool Second this is the same person that was in the original games. He's not the same person in the original games Very different man at this point That's the whole point of the two games, but you don't understand Does anyone remember the time that kratos crushed a woman under a fucking lever to hold the door open? It was absurd It was you do sometimes like what the fuck are you doing, man? A completely innocent woman Yeah Honestly just making kratos a mature wise old man was a horrible idea in the first place There's no way they could ever pull it off. Okay, they did that. It was fucking beautiful. It was amazing Yeah, I think they did pretty well So anyway, you fight your way through you make your way to the world tree roots and neath hoag the guardian of Yeegdrasil And you just straight up killer. Are there any lasting consequences of killing the guardian of the world tree? Yes, please say yes to even think something could keep her away. He doesn't say yes Terrible just terrible. It has come to my attention that neath hoag has been slain and as a result her offspring have been let loose One of it Unfortunately without a proper role model to supervise them The little rascals are certain to fall to mischief in time said mischief could culminate in nothing less than their devouring of the nine realms entirely The only clip I didn't include there was the ratatoshka says he's going to take over for neath hoag's Uh role essentially now, um what I will concede is someone might be like well, surely there's got to be more consequence than that I'd be like so what is neath hoag? It's a creature that uh protects will tree roots in the world wherever they are and uh The children uh, I'm presumably just gonna become the size of her at some point Time and that that that's her role. He was killed meaning now people can probably attack will tree roots much easier than usual But the ratatoshka and the other children will have to fulfill the role as best they can And uh, one of the side missions is that you need to go find those children and get them back So that all seems to follow through to me. Yeah Yeah, people so for reference devouring of the nine realms. What I will say is that yeah, that's true What I will say as well is people aren't invested in destroying igdrasil. That is a weird thing because that just destroys everything So it's I doubt that uh her being missing for however long until ratatoshka can make up for the Boss, uh, you're gonna have many people trying to attack and destroy igdrasil. People don't even have access to Uh typically speak. Oh, yeah, I I just this all seems to line up to me Any lasting consequences of killing the guardian of the world tree? Of course not and I'm not gonna count a side quest where you have to find her children Oh, so if we discount the oh, well Uh, I mean like that's what it is though If you just discount that side mission then you interrupted why he was going to discount it rags He put because oh really good reason for killing the guardian of the world tree Of course not and I'm not gonna count a side quest where you have to find her children Because it's completely optional now freya is free. Yeah, that's the point if anything that makes it more meaningful to do I don't know so anything that's optional isn't consequential And the narrative implication is that it's not part of this story Like it's not a critical path thing to do to prevent ragnarok But if you do not do it eventually These things will destroy everything. So it's like well, there's some end game content for you Well, you know the consequences doesn't have a story though of clearing up the water in the air in sfadelfheim By destroying those rigs. He would be like that's not or the dragon is not consequential because it's optional Okay I guess that applies to literally every part of this game is optional amazing, but then of course You don't have to play it at all. So, you know really what what consequences anything have Free to wander the realms in her human form and we get a scene straight out of a soap opera when she reunites with her brother Pushing the message Set me on fire. How did you expect me to react like my brother? Like the boy that used to have my back no matter what And who remember he has no idea who these characters even are so like yeah, he don't give a five It is you know, he was he wasn't it is similar to watching a soap opera in that You can morph past the tv and see two characters arguing with each other and be like I have no idea what the context for that is whatever melodrama bleh, but like There is actually we went over this scene. It's pretty good. Uh, it achieves a lot very quickly Yes, two characters that you get to learn a lot about obviously he has no idea who they are I reported no matter how selfish is choices and he wants to just kill people I expected you to come to find me But no matter how hurt or angry You wouldn't Why can't I just Why can't I just take part in wanting violence gore and destruction? I mean, I still think this is a self report like this is telling us exactly why you can't deal with these games because They're trying to go for something a little bit different a little more meaningful and you can't handle it You just want to kill everything I hate every character if it was possible to hate every care. You don't even know who they are I think you hate them. I'm gonna listen to them character. I think I hate every character God damn. I'm getting sick of this shit. All right. I'm gonna try and wrap this up as quickly as possible Once they return to sindry's place kratos finally confronts his son in another infuriating scene The truth is you're being a complete asshole. Ladi. You know, that's no way to change a man's mind He doesn't have any faith in me. It's fine. If he just slap your son. It's fucking slapping You're not gonna reproduce The pussy ass writers Like do you know how many dads would fucking bitch slap their sons if they spoke to him right there? Some of the pieces are coming together. You're a god of war. You probably shouldn't be going around We've been over this it's completely out of character and it's certainly not fucking wise and you imagine the consequences of hitting atreus When he's already this rebellious Yeah, look at that shit Yeah No, especially when one of you people you consider friends is freya Who's relationship with her son? Was not a healthy one and that led to wonderful places I want kratos to be the father who's always disappointed in his son. I would love that. That'd be awesome. Why? Yeah, I don't give a shit about atreus. I want him to die. Come on beat your son That I want to see it. I want to see the cutscene where kratos beats his son It's never gonna happen Kratos should have beat his ass I was I'm still annoyed with that really really wants him to be beaten We had another moment where he should have beat his son until I love that's the biggest contribution to the sequel Is playing as a shitty son who's inferior to his dad in every way It's a generic, you know teenage boy story Except he doesn't get punished. What okay? Let's what is generic about it? You know, it's fine. It's fine. It's all shitty son who's inferior to his dad in every way It's a generic, you know teenage boy story Except he doesn't get punished at all He doesn't get punished at all This isn't what I wanted This wasn't what I meant Not has been meant losing brock. We know atreus We know not punished at all So he doesn't understand that he doesn't have the emotional Yeah, it's like he doesn't have the capacity to sort of conceptualize what it must be for other people to feel things You know like however Like really think about how terrible you must feel if someone like let's say sinjri is your good friend And indirectly through your sort of actions It leads down a path that gets your friend's brother and your friend of yours killed Like that's a huge deal like that's That's not something that should be taken lightly Or devalued because maybe you can't really understand it But it's it's a shame that you think that's nothing Maybe it means it's not a I don't even know what he means honestly. I couldn't I couldn't hazard or dare to guess Sorry, it's been brat teenage boy Does exactly what his dad doesn't want him to do and goes to see odin But first we need to climb this massive wall to get inside. Well, it's just another how much did he fucking skip? We just went we just like went through we went from a which had like a caption note because he fucked up and didn't Correct it and then we skipped all the way from that to he has to climb a wall look You have to understand the dialogue doesn't matter and neither does the story. So he's just trying to get through the story. Okay Other generic linear section with no hard battles whatsoever Very lame compared to traversing through pandora's temple and god of war one Pandora's temple in god of war one occupies about 60 percent of the fucking game. Yeah Yeah, it's huge pretty weird to compare them when the wall takes up arguably what 1% of Hmm should be such a slam dunk. This is so easy, but somehow he still manages to miss Yeah, because I know way better criticisms for this, but he's not gonna use them No, he's not this is so easy example of the many cool things kratos did and once he makes it to the top We finally meet heimdall probably the only based character in the game No, I don't think I I I am profoundly Unimpressed it makes complete sense that he was associated the most with heimdall. Yeah, absolutely I should expect nothing less from athletes Don't call me a hat and what are You Going to do and I love it what he like insults people for their race Isn't that so fucking great? That's so great. Wow. What a cool dude. I wish I could be that cool youtube stopping me See I really like him Yeah, see this is what I mean. I don't like him in like an I don't admire him. Yeah I it's it's the thing we talked about. I don't I don't like him, but I think he's great for character Ryan, but it makes you uncomfortable when someone else is like, I fucking love him. You're like Oh, right I'm going to spare me out of pity Do not get to decide my fate What an absolute sigma male and once again our expectations are subverted as asgard is just a generic Viking village straight out of skyrim Straight out of skyrim. Oh god. I don't even know where to begin with this It's so embarrassing and it's funny because base time doll will explain to him why he's so fucking wrong But he doesn't listen to characters. So you think he'd listen to him though. He's the chat, right? Honestly, I rise to anymore at this point Is that Odin's palace? Palace Do you think the all father needs to puff himself up like some mortal chieftain? I guess not that is the great large which the all father built with his own hands I'm sorry if that is a letdown for you Real power you see does not need to flaunt It emerges when the time is right. Don't you agree? I think it's great for Odin's character too. Um Obviously when I was first playing it, I had no idea what they were going to be going for in totality You know, there's always a chance that it's uh, it's a mirage or That isn't the real asgard or something but like when you get the whole package It's like yeah, this is asgard as is needed for Odin's purposes. There's The idea like building golden towers. I imagine if you asked this Odin that he'd be just like why what would be the point? Like to look awesome. He'd be like, uh-huh It is just a generic viking village straight out of skyrim Honestly, I wasn't even surprised anymore. If this is a generic viking village and fucking sign me up It would be pretty cool to go around this whole place Yeah, it sounds seems really cozy and nice and you know the streets and lovely architecture It's not, you know overly opulent and garish. It seems like very livable and believable. It's not like the mcu though I get a time share there, you know, but the lodge is still a place that would cost like Tens of millions of dollars if you wanted to buy it now Yeah, no, this is the thing this is they put great effort into creating this asgard. He's just like boo generic What do you mean this looks beautiful and it looks like what these two people would come from It is beautiful. I mean, yes, it's objective Come on. Yeah, did he really just say that and he cut out my point where I compared it to mount olympus Well, we'll see maybe inserts it right after this. I don't see what well, but why would you want it to look like? It would be weird if it did. Oh Oh god, so you just have shit taste then You're soulless I don't know man. I just I I find places like this with Wood beams and nice tables and chairs and it's so much more approachable and cozy and appealing to me than these insanely These these glittering golden towers and this nonsense architecture It's just I give me a place like this any day of the week easy Boy, there's a place I could live in that feels lived in I don't have to worry about getting a speck of dirt I guess I am This just seems to have so much more character Uh, any I guess why he didn't address freya being a mary sue very anti-woke guys But just compare yeah, because he was saying that that guy isn't anti-woke. Yeah, he's gay keeping his fucking like values Like you don't believe this or that I've decided the guy he was responding to you was I guess he was told that the guy was on like he was right leaning And synthetic man didn't believe it. It couldn't be possible. It's as simple as this Uh, they told synthetic man that era needs coffee is anti-woke and then he said well He can't be anti-woke because he likes ragnarok, which is disgustingly woke But you'll find a lot of people do not think ragnarok is woke as bribed by many Plum for the masses After high and unwind Very anti-woke guys But just compare mount olympus to this shit After heimdall makes a mark out olympus looks pretty bad actually I so this is I I thought I was gonna have to be the hot taker out of all of the address freya being a mary sue very anti-woke guys Oh, yeah, I don't let this kind of like but just yeah, not a fan. Yeah, that looks like yeah, that looks like olympus Yeah, I don't want to live there weirdly It looks like it's something out of I don't know that that's the most flattering shot of it. Yes. Weird that he chose this one But like I'm not a it feels like a prison almost Are an insane asylum Yeah, like arcom. It's not like arcom. Yeah, like batman should be there standing on the rooftop um, but yeah not uh I actually I really like the height of mount olympus in god of war three, but um when seeing it like this, I was like, um You know Just thought working for me about this actually uh It's fine, but yeah, the idea there's like you want asgard to look like this or like no, thanks All right Or I think like in the past two games alphime already looks kind of what I expected asgard to look like when I heard That god of war was doing nor stuff like it almost has a A pseudo science fiction vibe to it like like hard sci-fi But you talking about the temple part Yeah, like in the first like There and like the the bridges made out of light and stuff like things things have a bit of a sci-fi fantasy feel to them in alphime And so when asgard did just seem like pretty unassuming scandinavian village. I was like, uh, that's pretty cool It was it was nice It is quite nice olympus to plus the bats don't help. I assume those are bats the bats flying out of the Well, this is not a little herby's so he used that herby's clip earlier for I mean also you just attach this when it's like this is probably one of the lesser images of alimpus from god of war 3 But you chose it alimpus to this shit After heimdall makes a mockery of atreus in an unwinnable boss fight Odin takes atreus under his tutelage anyway And gives him a quest to find all the pieces of this mask that will allow him to see Into this realm tear that somehow might have all the secrets to the universe or something Guess what? We never get to see what's in it even more pointless Yes, okay, so I don't think it's a subversion that we never get to see Inside of it. I never expected to see inside of it. I'd be surprised if they did I was gonna say it would have been so bad I did see inside it I want to if how would you portray infinite all knowledge You would I don't even know how you would portray it. Not that you I mean I That you literally Space Odyssey do that with all the colors Oh, yeah with the the bed and the my god, it's full of stars. Yeah. Yeah, the truth is we were tripping balls all along Yeah, but yeah, I never expected to actually see inside of it The best I think that we would have gotten is a character coming to terms with looking inside But yeah, it's never to look inside itself It's definitely is best when it's conceptual. It's close in that We don't really know what you get when you do the thing But they did describe what they believe it to be the Trey's sense is that it's knowledge and experience and stuff right But like, you know, it'd be really weird if someone said pulp fiction It fucking sucked that they set up this briefcase to be so important and then we never found out what was in it like So it even like what even when they open up. That's one of the good things Up the, you know case that little light comes out of it like it's golden or something It's man I that element of mystery and not knowing necessarily what truly is inside of something just that it's You know described as it took his eye, right? Like he peeked inside and it burned his eye out so A permanent injury on a god as strong as Odin. That's who that's something else Gotta be fucking careful and then of course Yeah, the payoff of he has it in front of him He has access to all of it that this whole game has been talking about the cost of knowledge the cost of pursuing it Odin's personified of His pursuit of all things at the cost of anything and Atreus says no, fuck this Doesn't matter. It's not worth the cost. Whatever it is And all this does is blue ball the player. I mean really I found it super satisfying but Yeah, I yeah, I think it's yeah the happy for Atreus to deny it Figured something out that odin didn't which is that he doesn't need to have the answers He doesn't need the certainty and he doesn't need it at any cost Like the cost of his friendships and yeah, he saw what it did to odin exactly ties into the end of the previous game too It's the the idea that like if everything is going towards Prophecy and what I'm supposed to be doing and needing to know everything that happens next What if my father ends up dying because of that? You set up this huge Villains trying to accomplish and we don't even know if it's actually important or not. It is very important It's insanely important just because you don't purse just because you don't personally get to look inside the crack of wisdom or whatever it is That doesn't mean it's not important. You never get to see Yeah, exactly. You don't get to see inside the briefcase That doesn't mean it's not important. You know, maybe he hates both fiction, too Maybe he does I can respect the consistency a trace is emasculated by multiple characters. Not just Well, listen to the arguments rags. You you rush in ahead because you're right. You're right. So let's rush it I know I'm a I'm sorry. I just uh Spoke too soon. I'm sure this will be the good. This will be the good argument This is much bigger and stronger But Thor's daughter throughd also is bigger and stronger than him. We don't know She's also older and he doesn't want to be confrontational with her like this. He's clearly not Like he's not fighting back against her I would argue from what we see of her combat. You probably could take it pretty easily as a trais Yeah, right. He doesn't want to fight her Yeah Even though she does literally Sorry, let's roll him back. I actually want to hear what he said about the n-word I want to hear what he says To accomplish and we don't even know if it's actually important or not And during this entire segment a trais is emasculated by multiple characters Not just Thor who's obviously much bigger and stronger. So I don't know why he counts How is this emasculation when he's that's not so much fucking more powerful and present than the trais is I don't understand why that's even a reference. Does he does he not understand that Thor Like beats kratos at the beginning sort of well, it's certainly well, I guess he argues I guess he argues that this game emasculates kratos as well Okay, well, I I forgot to put on my crazy person also is bigger and stronger than him And sif even though she does literally nothing is also much bigger than him. So a trais just looks small in tension You leave mommy alone. She's an uh, yeah She's an adult. She's an adult goddess and Yeah, and a trais is not an adult You mean to tell me she will be larger people get bigger when they age Well, so yeah, I was gonna say because I don't know if chat or if anyone here needs to know Human beings start out small No, I don't born And then eventually they get bigger Now a trais is on the way to becoming a fully grown man He's not there yet sif has been alive for a long time and is a fully grown woman Um, yeah, I'm sorry. I didn't like like this is gonna be this is gonna be like santa nation, okay Some women are taller than boys You're lying. Wait, I'm fully grown femur, but I'm sorry. I'm sorry Mentality Wait, wait, wait, how long did wait all of a sudden I'm realizing it took me years to be taller than my mother What? Oh my god, you're right. I I'd blocked out those memories because it was so emasculating to have my mother be taller I I don't know. I born soy But you're born soy camp. I I was born soy my mother was larger than me and I I Sucked from her tits. I just a little soy baby But yeah, this is again your brain has broken because of your obsession with putting everything through a particular lens You're like a need to suck easy and It's cringe stop. Oh, he was bigger and stronger than him In sif even though she does literally nothing is also much bigger than him So a trace just looks small and weak sif is all so much bigger than him So a trace just looks small and weak Where a trace is currently taller than her by the way He's like, yeah, I got the cinematographer and he's getting angry at this Yeah, it's like, why did you angle it this way if you wanted to make that point? You fool and you control the camera exactly. I'm the only sane man in this mad world It's literally something an insane person would almost certainly say but I mean that's the only one you're the only one he came out with that lie That sounds like somebody would definitely say I'm gonna go for sort of a Peter parker underdog type of thing But I just don't like a trace at all and this made him feel even more. Is Peter really an underdog kind of yeah I mean, he's not in terms of his strength. He's gonna annihilate everyone else, but like socially he often has to I think that's what he's referring to that people domineer and that peter can be that way. I suppose but uh He just like more than he just doesn't like a trace So I'd say also like clark kent would be an underdog and kind of a similar vein the way that he You know portrays himself and acts around people Oh, see that's deliberate on clark's Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he certainly plays Peters you could argue it's a little deliberate too because he could just decide all right I'm going to be a professional sports player But I think he thinks that would jeopardize his role as spider-man and he has you know, he feels like he has responsibility Right don't know how easy it would be for him to get away with that as such could be tough Exactly That's what I mean. I think it would jeopardize his crime Yeah, he could be like dash before oh, yeah the sequel happened So as a trace and Thor team up to find one of the mask pieces a trace slips away and finds anger Has he even really described what the mask is? Okay, he's because he's just like one of the mask piece He just said like the mask pieces and you're like the what the Pete. Is it broken? Did they lose parts at what mask? What's the mask for? Maybe he did I don't know well if anyone was curious We have a what 20 hours of coverage the Ragnarok story. If anyone wants to go check that out, you know, you can if you want This is a mask The very powerful magical giant mask that allows you to safely look into the crack of knowledge knowledge Knowledge for us for now. We're just trying to provide the the context to make points sound utterly Robota again And they watch a prophecy which tells them of Sir Tur and his waifu who are both giants and they don't just mind to become Ragnarok Which is pretty obvious for shadowing for later What for it's for shadowing. It's not really for shadowing. It's just like this is what I'll do I guess he's trying to say like this is gonna set up what happens later in the story It's like yes, but that's not for shadowing prophecy That's like saying I'm hungry in an hour. I am going to go to Arby's and purchase a ham sandwich That's not for shadowing if I go out and do the thing. That's just me doing what I said. I would do I don't sound pretty ominous Pretty ominous to get the word Killing Arby's is pretty ominous mask and we're back to playing his kratos again And he finally takes agency in the plot the only time this entire game I think it is hard for me to think of a time where he doesn't take agency in the plot Almost everything has to run on his approval And that's that's kratos for you. Everything runs with him knowing what's happening and then him approving of it That he makes a decision for himself Atreus, I'm just checking on your bed. Yes, sir So what do you say? No, let me show you what I found Show me atreus who are planning the next move Oh So, where are we going? Alphine I can only let you just trying to grow a young one Your father tells me you found it there. You don't get to make that choice not with the debt you owe me I am not here for debts. I would always have helped you Did the norans tell you how to get atreus back? Do we have a plan? The norans say atreus will be killed by hindal. The plan is to kill hindal first Oh, wow. Okay. Heimdall. Let's see never loses sees everything coming unpopular at parties. This won't be easy Whatever his advantages. I will overwhelm him with my own That's the idea You got an overpopulated Sensor see and I got just the thing in mind to help you do it Prophecy will not dictate our actions Yeah, our allies need help That is our focus now Let it go. You may live. We'll need to find sartov. Radotosker was able to procure this The three of us will go I know just where to look splendid. I will be your general It will be an honor to fight alongside you Get those people to safety wherever you can find it. We will see if done The prey and I will do what we can to slow ragnarok. He was not mindless before. See if he will listen to reason Odin will not get away if he does He has so much agency. It overthrows. Here is The Raitos is in charge pretty much throughout the whole game. I know So I don't mind the idea of him not necessarily being in charge at different points. It's fine But the fact is you're just wrong Don't you know what I've done. Yes But what will you do now? By the way, I really quite like the gear at that point the level like the opening gear leveled up fully Yeah, there's gold and stuff. Looks pretty cool. He looks real cool Pretty soy They destroy us No more And we're back to playing his kratos again and he finally Takes agency in the plot the only time this entire game that he makes a decision for himself All right, if you weren't paying attention throughout the whole story, go ahead and write a review on the game He's proud of don't pay attention. I I know Edison boy does seem like I'm I'm fishing for something to complain about To go seek out the norns Who are the fates of the Norse dimension after fighting your way through quite a lot of enemies On midgard kratos and freya ride on a kelpie to the bottom of some lake and find the norns Who are also very cringe characters who are also very great Furrows his brow menacingly He resists the urge to grunt More he failed he fails And they tell us that fate is not real people do a free choice They just very rarely make a decision that they can't predict This might be the only metaphor in this story that I actually agree with Went to see the fates Which was kind of lame I thought that was a really didn't say anything of value rock. I'm sorry that you get nothing out of that You know, I legitimately I legitimately pity that you could want to seem like that and take nothing totally changed his mind He didn't know what happened in the scene. He doesn't know idea like what was the point the nords made I don't fucking know, but Somebody may have written a comment. He may have read some of the he didn't even say what the actual purpose was He just said that what they said is that when you know a person you can kind of see their future Which the point of that scene is that if you want to change what is set you don't have to change yourself Listen to expectations. I'll probably add it to the video. How's this? How's it a subversion? Sorry? Uh, let's have a look I am Fates really didn't say anything of value It was just another subversion of expectations. I'll probably add it to the video This quest was not for nothing as kratos does learn that heimdall plans to kill his son That's not the important. They literally say in the scene that is not the important information. Yeah But you forgot again He fell for odin and he made the same mistake kratos did like it's it's brilliant To be fair kratos did you make the mistake kratos acknowledges? He understands the point, but he's not going to stop protecting his son Yeah, I want I want the voice actor for odin. Who's what's his name? Richard shiff Richard shiff. I want Richard shiff to go to one of synthetic man's live streams and say ha ha i fooled you I fooled you lmao It's really didn't say anything of value Who cares nobody cares about good writing anymore Right there. It's very true the the the fucking Poster child for good writing here the rosy the riveter of storytelling Letting well, she was probably mary sue But yeah, this is the guy probably need this is the guy that needs To make the judgment on that only if she could all stunning kruger That lady was And so to kill heimdall is going to have to forge a new weapon in spartoff heim An infinitely duplicating spear and even though I think the weapon's awesome This weapon sucks the new gold weapon sucks They didn't test their game Don't say my life. He keeps saying Think the weapon's awesome The actual quest to get it was incredibly lame. This felt like padding once again You don't even fight a cool boss in spartoff heim You don't even fight a cool boss. The boss for the spear is heimdall Precisely who you built it for and you get the payoff of using it mechanically Yeah, you don't fight a boss to get the weapon. That's true Well, it's the only boss that's tied specifically to a weapons mechanics, right pretty much. Yeah, that's it Yeah, that's true. So he couldn't be more something I know from not playing it Make your way to some lake or made the ring and she makes the weapon That's literally wait and he said that that was like the boss fight. He really liked so he doubly forgot about it I don't maybe he just doesn't register that is the boss for the spear if it's so to speak Maybe which is weird Well, he pointed out specifically the yeah, okay well Let's check out the welcome right yet Yet another missed opportunity from this game to do something really cool For all the parallels to marvel movies that you're about to see in a second I'm surprised they didn't just rip off of infinity war here and make something over the top Then create what how's the mermaid not over the top? I don't understand like what so you wanted it to be the creators had to open up The dying star laser into a melt metal. I guess I mean a mermaid taking a ring that has the what is the spirit of it's not a god exactly, right? But what is doff doff near again prior to the duplicates infinite Okay, and But like didn't they say the ring was a person? I can't remember the description better than that. But yeah Oh, okay, but anyways, I'm saying that like there was a lot There's a lot that went into making that spear. Okay. It's not like they just picked it up at the spear store Cindry was very reluctant to get rid of drop near to the point where he got his own pov sequence Which is a really cool one that I quite like about letting go of drop near Kratos have a verbal Once again, the old kratos would never talk to Zeus. He would just try and kill him as soon as he's on Yeah, good thing. He's grown as a man person. Do you imagine any reason why kratos might not just want to do that? As long as I return to asgard literal threat your son will die if you do anything to me See the real kratos would have grabbed him by the fucking throat And beaten the just beaten Odin to death. He would not have fucking taken that sitting down But you know, um, and then he would have doomed. He threatened. No, he didn't Man, and he would have doomed to try to death if he did what you said He's just all over the place like kratos threatens to kill him in this scene What that's does as far as he can go before actually killing him Sure old man now Now let's get to a comment that I grew with in spirit, but it really wasn't my point in the video At 44 minutes and 30 seconds I said this and yet more evidence that the writers emasculated kratos He never tries to kill odin here Even if it wasn't out of rage, which it would be if he killed odin the plot would be over and he would win I'm not saying he should win here, but he should at least try to kill odin He shouldn't just fucking stand there and get roasted and say nothing in return He's he threatened to kill odin. What do you mean? Come the fuck on and so this commenter said I mean atreus was still in asgard So if kratos tries to kill odin in this scene then atreus would likely be killed by the gods in asgard Yes, absolutely. I agree But that doesn't mean that the writers had to handle it this way The problem is white. It's your complaint. Like the scenario is what it is. Yeah, he doesn't like that It's the same as when we talk about the trolley problem with batman And it's like well batman should never be in a situation where he has to make he has to deal with a trolley problem Yeah, it is exactly. Yeah, it's it's the same thing. Yeah in that universe supposed to do to prevent this from happening Being in this situation the writer shouldn't have put him in that situation. I see right. Okay, no um But the reason why I put him in a situation is because it works on that level There's something that he wants that he can't get and he has to deal with that It's kind of like just good drama. Yep. Um, I don't I don't know why you would make it so that that's Not the case and I don't know why you would consider that to be like a strict Improvement. Well, I guess the idea being like I'm this close to the last boss. Why can't I just kill him now and end this game? Well, we have a reason it's the reason in the story. Oh, yeah, I'm aware of that Yeah, it's the critical equivalent of like going out and finding a spade and then just getting really upset that it's a spade Yeah, how bad is he not entitled to criticize the plot? He hasn't done that He's entitled to criticize the plot. Yeah, give me some arguments. Don't just say I don't like that They decided to tell a story about what they told that's and here's why We're kind of the same at the beginning with the whole Odin thing It's like it should have just been a different story. He should have made a choice that wasn't in character Yeah, it also is possible to approach for a protagonist and an antagonist to meet and talk and not fight Yeah, that was the circumstance that they leveraged which was that kratos can't kill him Because because it would result in the loss of atreus It's actually a really good way to enable a scene that would otherwise be very difficult to facilitate A lot of these are treating it as if this game story was written in stone It could never be changed or they don't want to address how it was written at all You have to provide an argument for why we should change the way it was written at the core Yeah, like you can't just say that you dislike the scenario even though it's totally functional Yeah, like that's not good enough and so instead of addressing my criticisms of the right not anything. It's just your fee fees It's not. Yeah, exactly haters themselves these comments just say well, that's what happens in the story Didn't you see what happened in the story? Yeah, you don't you don't acknowledge dialogue Yes, and I disagree with it. I think it's horrible. That's my point Tell me why You didn't even explain why it is horrible We should never have a scenario where you talk to your enemy. That's just that's absurd. We should write it so that never happens I feel like I'm losing my mind right now The most interesting scenes in both heat and the dark night are scenes in which the protagonist and antagonist just talk really Give a fucking argument, mate You know some of a verbal confrontation once again the old kratos would never talk to zeus He would just try and kill him as soon as he's on But by the way kratos has several verbal confrontations in the original games several See the real kratos would have grabbed him by the fucking hero and beaten the just beaten odin to death He would it sounds like he's criticizing him in the scene not that the scene exactly Exactly now it's changed to like the scenario itself shouldn't have even happened It's just weird like every time that there's a criticism for whatever reason. It's just for some reason not what you said It's like but that wasn't actually my point Like if you were paying attention or if you would just use some critical thinking skills You would have understood that it was a different point It's just kind of funny big ask fringy. Why don't you calm down with this critical thinking skills? Yeah, I'm not yeah, mm-hmm. Didn't he give the gatekeeper a chance to live in god of war 2 don't forget Uh, herra, he outright spayed her. Yeah, she kept annoying him So he decided to kill it. I could take a net sitting down This is everyone is a fucking liar, I guess Wouldn't it be way more interesting if odin actually pissed kratos off and he made a mistake? I think so instead of just watching another slow paced pointless cut scene. I thought that it was cool Like super duper high up and virtually infallible But now you want to see kratos making mistakes. Yeah, I thought he was a gary stew Also, um, I preferred the fact that kratos right now is dealing with the fact that he's slowly becoming The guy he was in the og and he's trying to stop himself from becoming that Mm-hmm So this scene he's having maximum restrained in not killing odin not becoming who he was and losing atreus as a result Just like he lost his family the last time he fucking indulged That we learned a value from and it just wastes our time Like most of this game So yes while I agree with you in spirit, the problem is the situation like what do you think they were trying to achieve in that scene? Like that would be my question What do you think the writers wanted to achieve with that scene? Let's assume that you're right and the scene is pointless and worthless. What do you think their goal was? I'd be so curious to hear what his answer was like a real answer not some bullshit like meme answer of oh It's to make him cuck soy god of war dude Like I'm so curious because I feel like he wouldn't be able to explain what the point of that scene was I feel like he wouldn't be able to explain the point of many scenes in this game Just based on everything that we've gone through so far in itself This is just another scene that exists just to make us hate odin more Even though there was already a shit ton of those And which is funny because odin is the reasonable one in this scene He keeps trying to break bread make a piece. He said atreus came to me of his own volition. I don't even a prisoner But credit is that I will kill you. I will fucking kill you. I will kill you The thing is it's probably wise to not trust anything odin says You know one of their assassinates kratos's character or I mean character development Yeah, that's a good one. How can you even man? Is it not like surely if you don't agree with it, you could it's still character development He develops into a new character even if you don't like it, right? He keeps saying this isn't what kratos from the og games would do That's like he's not that guy. Why'd you keep saying that? It is in a while since then. Yeah, that's the point He's changed as a person. He's seen that terrible things happen if you just go around in a kill everything all the time No, we call it if it happens off screen in between god of war three and four I mean just imagine if we actually did get a boss battle here and odin was too strong for kratos And just make some mockery of them just you'd complain Yeah, you would complain that it's emasculating uh kratos Yeah, kratos just win god just wipes the floor with him And then just laughs it off and goes back to asgard and continues using his son Wouldn't that be way more interesting than what actually happened? No, no, that's extremely bad. That would be worse. I way prefer kratos having to restrain himself The fight is more interesting. Yeah, yes, it would be No, your mother was far better at fishing than I Bullshit kratos is the best at everything ever Stop ruining my gary stew power fantasy you you liberal fox I mean just imagine if we actually did get a boss battle here and odin was too strong for kratos Bullshit kratos is the best at everything ever He does not respond to or attack odin because that is clearly what odin wants That's why he's subtly taunting and insulting him again. No, shit Do you really think I didn't understand that that doesn't it's funny because it's not my thing What would be your take on that scene odin's trying to figure out how to stop The kratos from going on because it seems like after the the threat He just sort of gets pissed off and just starts lashing out at him and leaves his goal Stop front kratos from trying to kill him and heimdall remember he's aware of his mission to kill heimdall through tear Also, like why did you say that the scene was pointless then? You know what was happening because he can never really show up yet There's some dynamic going on. So why did you say that it was pointless? He there was a point and you grasped it Yeah, but he feels threatened as to the reality that he may not have understood Right. He's like of course I understood it when it's like, yeah, no shit. I understood it Yeah, matter sometimes I also want to say man the uh that that a lot of this dead space lighting Now a lot of this now the lighting's different when you in it when you're in a no oxygen environment But still I can't wait for this uh remake with how good it looks Doing what the villain wants and giving in is interesting Kratos is known to be quick to anger at least he used to be he used to lash out at everything that pissed him off That was one of his defining traits. This doesn't make how does that work out? It didn't work out Kratos is getting better at not doing that Yeah, he can look more mature. It just makes him look like a pussy. That was my oh Oh, I thought you said that it would have been a mistake I thought you said it would have been interesting if you made a mistake Now you're saying that he would have been a pussy if he made if he if because of following through on the choice that you recognized was not one Getting confusing isn't it? It's getting very confusing because it seems like the actual argument changes depending on the criticism that somebody throws Point and again this did far more interestingly than it did Honestly, it would be even more interesting if kratos did kill odin and his son did get killed as a consequence And then kratos has to grieve atreus and come to realize that he is trapped in a cycle of vengeance It's so interesting how like that suggestion completely negates everything to do with atreus's story Like the arc that he's going on that you would just cut that off That would be a dead end It's a line in the game already that basically says this justice is not what we seek It is vengeance Every path I walk Leads back to vengeance But you guys don't want interesting writing you want your marvel cape shit generic No, oh come on. I feel like advocate to just see the original story that was in the trilogy again Yeah, just do it again. That would be more interesting Yeah, all right, buddy baby subversion that has no real consequences Instead of actually Interesting dramatic moments in the story you'd rather have characters talk about their emotions 10 more fucking times And the sad part is feelings. I can see you're very upset when characters have feelings This is probably the most reasonable criticism I got at least of the story Because even though I made several That's still totally wrong, right? Yeah, everyone's still wrong actual inaccuracies in the video The people who wrote these comments made a lot of bad faith arguments And suggestions around my intent or implications of those points in the video I didn't explain all my points in the video all that well and there is a reason for that The way I make video game reviews is different from most other people There are generally two types on youtube. There are the mainstream reviewers that give very vague praises and criticisms toward the game They're typically the ones that get review codes and then release their videos as soon as the embargo is up to maximize views I'm sure all of you can picture at least one person on this platform. That's like this IGN for example. Yeah, I was talking about all right show ass And then there's the other end of the spectrum the joseph anderson's or matthew matosis or maybe H bomber guy or something Who will spend a month working on a video writing the script making sure it's air tight having all their points organized and together And these videos are usually over two hours long. Now. I am somewhere in the middle. My video matosis Matt's videos rarely reach 45 minutes unless he's doing a full-on commentary. Yeah, they're fucking whatever Yeah, it's fine. So he's saying those two Exists when to me. I'm already like there's an enormous spectrum. But fine. If you want to try and lock them into those two piles Sure Than the vague mainstream reviewers, but they're also shorter and far less Let's roll him back Now I am somewhere in the middle My videos are much longer than the vague mainstream reviewers But they're also shorter and far less organized What you're saying is you're the worst of both worlds You're yeah, that's that's what I'm hearing and long That's what I'm hearing you long vague inaccurate and still vapid. Yes. So congratulations I don't know why you even want to point it out Then the video essay youtubers, right? Because the way I make videos is I just give you my unfiltered thoughts Now, unfortunately, this will lead to a lot of factual inaccuracies and it has over the course of the Nearly three years. I've made content because I don't really care to do research I do most things based on notes and oh no Um, I might have found your problem We now know what's wrong. Let's let's see. I know that my protest leads to factual inaccuracies, but I don't care Well, let's see what he says, right? What else do we have to say? Yeah, he's highlighted the issue He's highlighted. What's wrong that he doesn't seem to look for correction. What does he do about that? My own research Forgive me if I don't pay attention to the countless pointless dialogue. Quit talking over the game You really want to hear all this shitty dialogue? I'm putting this here because this is beyond research This is just not even playing the game. This is going into it wanting to hate it Deciding preemptively that it's going to be bad and that it's not worth your time What everyone accused me of doing was well Elden Ring and this just going in wanting to have a bad experience and hate But like this is literal at this point. Yeah, what he's describing that to you Look at that he Everything he says has some degree of snide snark to it There's like, oh, yeah This is one of those good games because I'm gonna be able to farm controversy points by disliking it and saying dumb shit about it Blending dollars yourself on the shitty game if you really care about the dialogue In fact, actually if you're asking to hear the dialogue again, you're part of the problem All this sucks. None of this matters So I don't really care to do research. Is she even the god I've already forgotten I corrected some of the mistakes I made in the video itself And I'm not saying this to say that you can't point out factual inaccuracies You certainly why do you sound so mad about this? Just know I'm never going to change how I make my content because I don't care enough You know what if you recommended this video to us and you thought it was good Fucking shame on you. This is just snake eyes. This is this is fucking static. Yeah I look I'm gonna have inaccuracies and I don't care. I'm not changing anything I don't really care to do research. Is she even the god I've already forgotten I corrected some of the mistakes I made in the video itself And I'm not saying this to say that you can't point out factual inaccuracies You certainly can but you're just know I'm never going to change how I make my content because I don't care enough About youtube videos to write this massive airtight script and expect people to take you the fuck apart Well, yeah, exactly like people are gonna yeah, and also, you know, like these people who made god of war ragnarok They worked really hard on that game. Yeah, you think that maybe getting things right Like if you acknowledge that your process leads to you making What did he say exactly many mistakes or lots of mistakes something like that? Like I don't know maybe maybe it'd be worthwhile to spend a little bit more time developing your thoughts and critiques Yeah, just expect the results you You're gonna get strong results Yes, people are going to people aren't going to be like well, but then again This is the way that he makes his videos. First of all, they might not know that in fact They probably won't and second of all even if they do so what you're getting things wrong I don't excuse Let's let's just say that so the beginning of every video if you could I'd appreciate it Just let people know you don't care about research. You don't care if you get things wrong And most the time you listen to the fucking dialogues. You don't understand And you're not gonna let that as your preface, you know, like you're disclaimer right at the beginning of the video To let people know what they're getting into I'm sure that that will yield great results Yeah, I bet you why don't you be honest away? Yeah He'll be a little more. You would never put this at the beginning of this video I mean, yeah, because you certainly like a shirt with George Orwell quite on it Like you you're the king of honesty sure. Yeah, I'm sure George Orwell would be thrilled to hear you say that He's just out here speaking his truth. Come on. Yeah He can just know I'm never going to change how I make my content because I don't care enough about youtube videos To write this massive airtight script for something people are going to forget in a week anyway Well, maybe your video is short your videos. They forget in a week because don't you know, but some of us, you know This explains everything. He doesn't even value it a little longer than a week I think some of it is like bullshit. That makes sense. Apparently it's it's dumb horseshit that he cobbles together He doesn't really care about it. He doesn't give it any value He valuing like YouTube videos. Why do people keep doing that? You don't you can take a little bit more seriously does take pride in your work me Exactly Keeps on coming back to that a Why should I care most content crept is that you Videos to write this massive airtight script for something people are going to forget in a week anyway Because that's the fact most content creators don't want to accept is that youtube content is extremely Disposable and that's how I've always treated it Some of it maybe well, I just I mean He's basically just said like even I think it's disposable. I'm making it disposable Which is kind of way worse, isn't it like somebody who thinks they're making something great that's disposable Because at the very least there's like an effort to make something worthwhile I mean, I I spent a lot of time About a year and a half for geeks and gamers making a video a week That's what I was doing and I was finding it was getting really hard for me to Actually put in the amount of effort I want to and that's sort of why I told generally Jeremy And I are still on good terms and everything but I just said hey, man I kind of want to spend some more time on my videos and write my scripts and redraft them and make make good longer videos And the best video I've ever made as far as views go is like a two hour long documentary on the metroid series So, I mean you can do one type of content and then decide Hello Oh, sorry. Oh, you cut out. Yeah, sorry. I thought I slid my finger off my push to talk button Anyways, I'm just saying I changed the way I make videos and I'm much more proud of what I do now And it's um, I don't know. I always thought it was a good decision So you can change the way you make videos if you want to add marble thing to do. I'd say No, just admit it. It's all kind of just whatever it's yeah, it's all shit Whatever no one cares about youtube videos. Don't forget in a week Why have any sort of pride in your work? Just fuck it just I give mine and I move on to the next thing Genuinely enjoy yourself I mean, it does sound like he's doing that doesn't it? Yeah He's extremely Disposable like there's that there's that part of you that like, you know feels ashamed that I guess he doesn't have There's no Part of his psyche that says man you you're just you're Doing the bare possible thing. You don't care if it's right or not You think it's all just this fleeting bit of nonsense and it doesn't matter Just trying to get into the algorithm. It's not about making something thoughtful. It's it's about The views He certainly says some pretty foul things for wanting to get into the algorithm Imagine positioning yourself as you know, big old contrarian man Who's gonna say the things that the mainstream media or whatever don't want you to hear or you know, whatever the fuck And then also being mr. Assembly line games journal grind set. I don't give a shit about what I'm doing I'm just gonna pump out content. I don't care if I'm wrong and I'll never change. Fuck you I've always treated it. I give my opinion and I move on to the next thing Genuinely enjoy your stuff man. Keep being real. You're the rare exception ocean of mediocrity. Well, thanks. It does mean a lot I I try Just know I'm never going to change how I make my content because I don't care enough YouTube content is extremely disposable Being yours, maybe real gaming critic. Just it's not good guys. It's not good the one real one The one guy openly admits to After hearing all that you gotta listen to this unspoiled like after hearing all that content is extremely disposable Being the one real gaming critic. It's it's not good guys. It's not good. Why can't we just Everyone's against me. You think I want to carry you Unfortunately, I it's delusional. Yes, it's delusion is what it is. It's legitimate delusion I'm willing to think he was being tongue-in-cheek there because he did kind of smirk. He's not No, he always smirks awkwardly when there are several quotes where he talks about how he's basically the only one left It's for myself now and I can't really make rambly shit anymore without feeling bad about it You see if I write it down and it's if I write it down and it's wrong That's okay Oh, um, yeah, he's he's he's saying he can't be fucking around anymore come making ramblings Okay, but then Is one of his most recent videos. He says well, I'm gonna do that. I'm not changing I just don't get it man Imagine being one of these people and managing to fall towards the bottom of the pile in video game video essays That's not a high bar. I can't believe he has less integrity than like all of the aggregate reviewers All of those vague reviewers like how did you manage to do that? When they barely even come across sometimes as having played the games, but you are showing us you don't care to do that If anyone points it out they could be right who cares I ain't changing my format Okay, changing your format is sorry When you stream a playthrough of a game you're reviewing and you flat out say, yeah, I'm not playing this game again Or going back and doing research to test mechanics or try to figure out if I can Build things a different way or solve a puzzle a different way Here's like, yeah, I'm gonna casually play this and clown on it and not really even listening to any of the Dialogue so well, okay, dude. What did you do then to review it? Well Well, I played it and then I had a bunch of feelings and I kind of just blurted them into a microphone I'm never going to change how I make my content And this scene was just painful to watch I feel like the game can't decide whether or not kratos wants war He refused peace at the beginning of the game yet. We're constantly told he wants to avoid bloodshed Doesn't want to kill anybody except odin, which is pretty much impossible That's just stupid and naive to believe that we missed the whole point of the fucking game Yeah, we're all heading toward ragnarok and war. He doesn't want that However, he's interested in keeping his son safe and defending his friends will inevitably lead to war What even happened not to mention odin straight up calls him a cuck in this scene, dude And the writers obviously didn't play the old games I know they did the research on some of these stories or a different writer entirely wrote the Stories while you're writing on the sled or in the boats that reference the previous games, but they clearly forgot that in god of war Two kratos did oh, so we're done with that was the that was his evidence for him being a cuck was hit. Yeah That's not what a cuck is Yeah, it is now No one seems to use that word correctly anymore Yeah, which means Bad guy what he's talking about is the idea that the traits the trace has couldn't possibly have come from kratos So perhaps there was another father lol Cuckoldry is not when you raise another man's son One might refer to that as a Chad fucking move That makes them literally the villain steal in the mascazoro You you take another man's kid raise them properly and make you instill in them your values So, uh, yeah, cuckoldry is a whole different thing Um as so this is the next point now Never kind Is sure he's yours and the writers obviously didn't play the old game And of course that that's that comment supposed to be like you're nothing like your son That's what the the joke there was by odin. It's some people saying he's clearly joking. It's like it's a shit joke It doesn't make sense Yeah, what what would the joke actually be if it Oh, yeah, because I get odin's joke. Of course, but yeah, because the traces doesn't seem to be anything like his father So what Yeah, I don't know I know they did on some of these stories or a different writer entirely wrote the stories while you're Riding on the sled or in the boats that reference the previous games But they clearly forgot that in god of war two kratos did have worshippers Spartans worshipped him while he was a god Yeah, that's not the kratos that he is at this point Like he's never been worshipped for the man. He is now only for the War gods that destroyed everybody. It's not exactly something he considers to be a positive The thing is they worship was basically conditional on him providing them victories non-stop and that led to them getting destroyed Like it's not it's not what odin's referring to and kratos knows that and it's annoying him But uh to be fair You wouldn't see a counter argument to this from kratos. He's not going to entertain that Give a shit. He's not going to argue with odin whether or not he was worshipped This is just odin trying to get to kratos, but it is relevant How kratos says the man he is now has had nobody worship him Nobody prays to him. Nobody appreciates the man for who he is, which is very much What ties into a big old payoff at the end of the game Yep, what's happening in god of war two Is that he's trying to destroy everything that sparta ended up fighting with to make sparta the best Mm-hmm. It's not quite the same And yet he says nothing here acting like odin was correct. What do you even know of godhood? In your lifetime says anyone ever worshipped you and yet more evidence that the writers emasculated kratos He never tries to kill odin here even if it wasn't out of rage Which it would be if he if anything is if you look at his expression You can read a lot from what kratos thinks of him saying is anyone ever worshipped you Complicated didn't say yes, you are correct He killed odin the plot would be over and he would win What can say you're on the verge of returning to form does it scare you aiding another violent god I'm scared for your brother That spear could start a war the war If that no longer concerns you then maybe three is right Maybe the giants had you in mind all along I'm not saying he should win here, but he should at least try to kill odin He shouldn't just fucking stand there because of no reyes. You tarred No, but remember his count is of that is uh, no I was saying that the whole scene shouldn't happen the way that it happens in general Critical now he's speaking. Yeah, yeah, and then he speaks to the scene as it is So it doesn't even matter get roasted and say nothing in return. Come the fuck on I mean he leaves after he finishes the roasting anyway I don't Like like he says is it a one to your son doesn't want to come back to you and then leaves What do you want the crates to be like? Suck fucking eight And then when he returns to cindri's place again, he cries Yes, kratos pretty much cries. I don't think we see a tear leave his eyes, but come on. Look at this Oh, no, I don't want to kill guys I'm so mature now. Now watch me cry on screen Fucking kratos cry. Yeah, he's really uh, he's really emotional about the memory. I don't know if I'm supposed to feel sad here I mean what why Because you could be human with human more gods. I guess after killing a cajillion Did he see the film 300 he's killed so many again. What why am I supposed to be sad here? Oh, he misses his son He misses his wife I mean, yeah, it's pretty uh, pretty normal. Yeah, well, we can explain You nailed it, but holy shit Fuck that. He didn't nail it. He's no idea what's happening Why is this scene happening here and now because he's thinking about his one responsibility given to him by fey Which is to keep atreus safe atreus is gone He has no idea where he is and he just met with odin to find out he is absolutely in asgard That's like incredibly unsafe. What else is there? Oh, you know just the fact that he's been running away from his history this entire like era and he's just become About as close as he's ever gotten to it. He's searching for and creates a weapon specifically to kill a god God of war ones plotline So he's right now dealing with he's he's in an attempt To protect the family that he doesn't want to lose just like he did originally He is gradually becoming more of the person that led to the destruction of his family in the first place It's brilliant. He's having a horrifying moment here and he picks up The little pouch does fey's not here to help him And then what does he have the flashback where she helped him in the first place understand How to start moving forward and it ends with her saying you need to take care of atreus, which is the one thing He's failed to do here Yes, I don't know there's not a particular incident that is inciting this so it's hard to feel something Oh, I'm sorry So I'd like to could you gather that It's the past 20 minutes of the game was all covering why this scene is happening And then he has a vision of his wife. This is actually the second vision I didn't name the previous one because honestly, none of the three visions matter at all. They're completely so much Like it hurts it hurts like you just don't you're just really shit at they are essential Yes, some people would say that like if someone was to How do you even phrase it someone consider some people would consider intelligence intelligence? I don't know. I'm stumbling over all this. I don't know But some people would consider one's intelligence to be a partial measure of how they're able to absorb information That's given to them whether it's like critical thinking solving puzzles Being able to figure things out And he's not able to do any of that he's not able to take information that he's been given and turn it into Anything useful. He can't understand what he's been given It's the mark of a very stupid person to be unable to do that There's a service they serve to the story Kratos settled Ultimate gigachat settled Prove me wrong. She's very I have no idea. I like I'm sorry, dude I don't know man. This is like all the people in our chat who fucking cope when they say that uh That captain marvel is not attractive It's just well, you know, whatever, you know Like this is another pointless scene I don't give a fuck about this It's far better off knowing as little as possible Oh, I'm so ashamed. I can't did bad stuff in the past. Stop. I'm so fucking bad dad Self uh, he has the emotional maturity of like an actual 10 year old. Yeah All the self-pity is disgusting Disgusting. You know what? You should have played as a trait. He's what's going on in there. Yeah He There's no uh his ability to be unable to understand self-reflection is in no way surprising to me Yeah He's adding up He's again and he makes his way to helheim to find the next piece and spoilers the piece isn't there and no They don't explain it either Someone told me that atreus was lying, but if he was we know like I I'm willing to let people Have missed this is not most obvious But the explanation that seems to make the most sense is that it's attuned to what atreus wants He does mistranslate and it takes him to helheim His interest is protecting and helping a creature that's in pain in helheim and so the mask leads to it That is the theory I've heard and makes the most sense to me Why would the mask be glowing when he's going in the supposed right direction? Was he manipulating it? He seemed rather confused when it wasn't there and freeing garb the giant wolf there which can tear through dimensions That seemed to be unintentional. So how could it be a lie? Let's be honest. It's just more contrived bullshit So heimdall fittingly shits all over him for fucking everything up So atreus runs home to dead d and honestly him hugging his dad is one of the only decent moments of the story So I won't shit on it. Didn't he just odd for dead even a broken clock. Didn't you just show me though? They're like run home to easy dead g Who knows like make up your mind like what what do you think of this scene? No, what happened to what happened to beating up atreus? I don't know Why Hands on his heels at the time. I really don't know. So it's up to kratos and atreus to team up to Imprison garm once again You get a pretty cool boss battle and then at the end our expectations are Unsubverted as it turns out atreus trapped fennr's soul and now releases it into garm Who now becomes fennr, right? So now there's a giant heckin pupparino How very cute Then we get a scene where kratos finally that's his commentary for it. Yeah So castically saying how very cute Yeah, okay, so this is an important scene. What is he gonna say? I don't want to know to be honest except his son is a big boy and can take care of himself At first I was annoyed with this scene because atreus was coming across as pretty condescending to his father But obviously that wasn't really the intention of the writing here so He thought it was bad because atreus was condescending to kratos. All right. Keep that in mind. That's what he said at first Now let's have a look at his stream Falling back into my old ways Angry really Really This is a pointless scene another pointless scene dudes. How many god damn point little just started this Just don't know the scenes are there At first I was annoyed with this scene because atreus was coming across as pretty condescending Without you I got reckless over confident Need stupid mistakes It's not character development. It's character assassination Now it's someone's been assassinated character wise. I don't know who will how but yeah At first I was annoyed with this scene because atreus was coming across as pretty condescending Don't be sorry father He better Let's go home This is just classic like I didn't have a good father So i'm gonna write what I think a good father is and guess what they're failing. This is not no No, no, no This is how you don't think that kratos is I mean you could at least I mean good faith understanding what they're trying to have kratos be surely even that you can understand is very admirable But none of those have anything to do with what he said in the video Yeah, it's almost like if he'd put it in his video It would have been a really bad move because everyone would have been like well what you're saying is absolute fucking nonsense How strict of a prerequisite is corporal punishment for being a good father Because it's based in non-soy At first I was seen because atreus was coming across as pretty condescending So while it was somewhat sloppily handled and I really don't like the message of be better Especially this comment I was waiting all throughout 2018 and this game for someone to say the quiet part of the message of these games out loud We must be better. That's it right there modern hollywood western entertainment in a nutshell Everything that came before was bad or rooted in something bad We must realize that we are pieces of shit for creating or enjoying it and do better so arrogant So fucking insufferable, excuse me That's uh, that's probably my guy. That's probably not what drinker is referring to so I don't think so and I think this is just You're lost You gotta calm down Back to the world you you're too far gone. You're off in the the fringes. I'm back to us terminally online We must be better for fey refers to Trying to make the world a better place in ways that actually have good results for kratos No longer giving in to his anger and just killing everything and destroying civilizations Then of course a general sentiment. We can always improve upon ourselves. Yeah, I don't know be better in itself It's not a bad message It's the way how you execute it and it's executed very well here the brain rot See the implications in the story that you should never kill your enemies, right? All your enemies can be forgiven That's not what it whatever He left me no choice Because it was necessary Not because it was written. Huh. I don't know the part I seen where they say it was really evil of you to kill You shouldn't have killed bad kill instead. They said you had to do it had to do it You had to do it Even though this is not something anybody actually follows in real life Try and find a leftist who doesn't think a conservative is a nazi good fucking luck It's an interesting injection there And they're certainly not looking to forgive them anytime soon, but So he's saying the game is soy and it's suggesting that we should forgive Always forget people but leftists don't forgive conservatives. So yeah, so fuck this Yeah, so something or whatever. I don't know fuck it or whatever something here It's character assassination It's obvious that this version of kratos is very lonely and doesn't want to let go of his son But atreus is a big boy now even though I think he's only 13 So he's really not that much of a big boy This is one of many moments in the story that you can tell a lot of elements of this game were rushed and it was clearly supposed to be a trilogy We're getting major is funny because this scene is so well supported. Yeah. Yeah It's all a lot of work a lot of when you listen to any dialogue That's the thing. We've been through all the references. He's just stating it's rushed. There you go Done. It's rush was clearly a trilogy. Uh, liptards owned correct No, there's points all crammed into this massive 25-hour experience that a lot of elements feel underdeveloped Like remember in the beginning of the story when atreus was supposed to learn to control his emotions So he could utilize his animal forms. Yeah. Well, that only really comes up right at the end of the game and he Know If anything it sets up this as being a payoff where for the first time You could play as the bear where you have enough control It's a good way of mirroring the player's control over the character and the character's control over themselves It's actually really kind of nice, but that's okay. That's a thought that didn't occur to you. I'm guessing so Whatever it just goes from that scene where he talks about him needing to control it and then it goes to this scene There's nothing in between Does controlling it You've already taught me discipline I need more than that. I need answers answers. You don't have What do you feel when you change? Anger The part of you unleash the wolf with that anger Maybe you just need to find the part that will guide it. How? You can fight with all sorts of emotion in your heart, not just rage If rage lets it out another might help you Stay you Bring the wolf Loki, but under your control It was supposed to learn to control his emotions so he could utilize his he just completely missed that whole section, I guess Well, I'm not surprised. So I've achieved that Well animal forms. Yeah, well that only really comes up right at the end of the game and he just kind of does it I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you But once again, I'm scratching at this review far beyond what it ever needed to be in the first place So let's get back to it. So when we return to Cindri's house yet again The gang decides we're not going to kill heimdall after all and instead we're going to try and help the people of vanaheim Who are being attacked by odin's forces. So we once again return there and once we arrive at frayers camp We find out that the boar that you kill in the beginning of the first game didn't die and is in fact a random black guy Um You clearly saved the boar in the first game once again, who the hell would remember this and why It's a main story thing But like why bring it up then It's the first thing that happens outside of a snowy wasteland Why did he bring it up if it's only people who are autistic and would care about details would bring it up I don't understand You remembered him dying that never happened. You made it up. Yeah Isn't that worse when you make things up? He doesn't paste and yet again That does not change my point that he becomes a random fucking black guy who does nothing about You're like a 78 year old man the thing is The thing about it is when you talk to her in the first game about hilda sfeedy Is uh, if you go back into her house after she heals him up She describes his power set to you in when he's in vanaheim or well around where he's not trapped as a boar form And she said he can make himself look in whatever way that he wants like a full-on shape shifter Funnily enough, I wish I had that reference when I was asked about this before because people were like There's no reference to people being able to look like whatever they want. Like there actually is Be careful mauler. I think it would disgust synthetic man that someone would voluntarily appear as a black person He would he'd find that very uh, he would find that very questionable So oh you in him. That was the clear point again for someone who says I didn't pay attention to the story You clearly didn't pay attention to my video. You just what? Being allegedly a human being kate with like a brain capable of saying these statements so Close to each other When he introduced his criticism the first thing ever was like, wait, it's not dead though The boar isn't dead. What he said is that he's like you missed the important part of my criticism that he's black Okay, he's pointless. He doesn't do anything and it's like literally the scene you're showing He's describing what his role is and that we see him fulfill that Not making this shit up What is the point of this character? Someone tell me why this character exists. You can't You're advisor and friend counselor to the veneer and yes, well Exiled at midgard. I was trapped in my bore form. I could use another shapeshift as well Go with him atreus. I will aid Freya. Yes, sir with their attention drawn elsewhere You and I can assault the main force from behind While atreus and hilda's fiend slip in to rescue your brother in the confusion. Yes And when did lord freya put you in charge? He didn't and I don't want it But when I have counsel to give I can't help but give it Love he taught lord freya everything he knows that is good enough for me I know Hired as are we all So after meeting some more heckin pupperenos and gaining the ability to manipulate the sun and moon That's my favorite type of prophecy story where you need to avoid the prophecy But you're also required to fulfill every part of it How many other kinds of prophecy stories are you just out of curiosity for him? I wonder but Do you not think that that's of some kind of? He says that after they say because it's the right thing to do not because it's written Like the whole point of the story being that they're making these decisions Because they're the right thing to do in reference to what they care about their nature The thing is not all of the prophecies come true. A lot of them don't Because of the fact that they subvert them with their nature being changed The angrobota would obviously be one of the biggest examples Stupid counter heimdall once again and even though I said earlier It's probably my favorite boss fight in the game. It is kind of dumb when you think about it His ability is to read people's minds, right? So the gimmick of the boss is you have to you Yeah, that's not quite how it works use the spear and detonate it on the ground to be able to hit him But if you can read your mind Why doesn't he know when you're about to detonate the spears and simply just jump out of the way The one's on the ground maybe because he has to meet you directly in the eyes And so he can't also watch the spears on the ground But if that's the case why can't you use any other method of ranged attack? That the game has the answer to hit him like maybe when you call the axe back to you It hits him in the back of the head or something You gotta overpopulate his senses, see and I got just the thing in mind to help you do it Eventually you do kill him and it's very unsatisfying. Just like the the axe is Not going to be as much as the spear to overpopulate his senses. It's pretty simple The spear is exploding and throwing all over the place. It just makes more sense Infinitely duplicate and I don't know why that would have been difficult to The grasp and then of course as soon as you do get him He starts to lose focus and he becomes Overpopulate his senses, see and I got just the thing in mind to help you do it Eventually you do kill him and it's very unsatisfying. I was hoping kratos would crush his skull into the dust Kind of like how he overrides hercules his face in god of war three, but no they pussie out on any kind of disturbing gore It's funny because like He's just decided like You know this this kind of payoff where he strangles the life out of him gradually as he whispers monster to him Yeah, so much more meaningful And as a person who kind of had the same reaction as synthetic man, but like I was just like, okay old school kratos Let's do this like tears that off or something I like I've subsequently seen the scene and I'm like my whole thing is Yeah, it actually really is better this way because there's there's a lot more weight to it And I think that's the trade-off with all the really brutal Executions for just random enemies. It's that's where they're kind of doing the like hey Here's the god of war fan thing that you want and while we're doing the story stuff We're gonna kind of keep it more focused on the story So I feel like we didn't think about it. Oh, yeah, no no gore And so the gang meets up with the discount and that was disturbing gore. I think you'd agree that's disturbing gore But yes, this is how he touches it with his bare hands at the end like uh, don't touch that part That's the rip open party. Uh, you're gonna get that's how you get ants On avengers squad and they escape on a flying boat Unfortunately, they're attacked by wyverns. And so Broken sword guy. I think his name was hamburger or something Sacrifices himself and they build it up to be this really epic moment like oh my god I can't believe that guy Sacrificed himself. Who was he again? And so we you can find out if you want to Yeah, you can absolutely find out you can feel like you owe him because of you know He saved you you feel like maybe as a human being that you owe him a little bit of Checking up and looking for him and seeing that he's okay And you know that might occur to someone's you know mind, but I mean, you know You feel how you feel it's a okay If that was me if I was in Kratos' position and he just saved me and my son with me and freya and freyer and The elf pair then I would be uh, yeah, I'd be I'd want to help him out grateful Once again returned to Cendri's house and luckily heimdall had gallerhorn in his hands, which allows you to Portals to all the realms at once Pure dumb luck that he had gallerhorn with him for whatever reason. I can't hear that. He's a spiteful vicious little shit I'm so loyal odin and trust of him with gallerhorn I guarantee all of us predicted what the climax of the story would be as soon as they told us what this thing did And so this is where another very stupid moment happens in the story Atreus for some reason that is not explained in the least Decides he wants to help odin again complete the mask because Maybe the secrets of the universe will help you find a way out so that you don't have to kill him How do I know you won't be running off to azgard next if I did At least I'd be somewhere I could make a difference. Now that is crazy talk That is the craziest of all possible talks. Why? Odin had the chance to kill me But he didn't he offered to teach me Maybe if I had more answers I could prevent what? What is this about? It doesn't matter Just let it go, okay Because all that matters is that you are safe, but that's not all that matters. Who's keeping you safe? That do not need you to protect me You sure about that? What do you know? I thought we all agreed we're gonna kill him now. Why are we suddenly doubting this? Why would you help the villain complete his quest? From a tactical perspective. Yeah, am I wrong? I don't much like it, but it is our best play Dividing Odin's focus would buy us time and give us a pair of eyes in the enemy's inner sanctum, but If there is truly a source of infinite knowledge You can't let Odin have it He wants to get access to infinite knowledge to best prepare and protect all the people he loves which echoes and reflects Odin's Claimed motivation, right? He says we can make the world a better place. We can do all these good things But we know Odin doesn't care about that He fucking rips into everybody all the time if they get in the way in any sense they perform The mask which doves tails quite nicely with the Tres' decision to destroy the mask which is that that choice in the story Doesn't want to be like Odin If I could start it there awaken the mask get answers Maybe that's our way out of this And you know, what's even funnier about this is who's in the room right now with them If you know the twist, you know what i'm talking about It really brings some dramatic irony to this scene on a second watch. I don't know if he's complimenting this story Yeah, I'm not sure Dramatic irony is supposed to be a good thing But it might be a subversion of expectations, which means that it's bad Well, I mean, that's exactly what tear said, right? Oh eyes in the inner sanctum. It's like, oh, ha ha ha see But do you think that's good or bad? Yeah, I don't it sounded like a criticism, but you just highlighted some of this complimentary. So I don't know Frey's journeys to asgard again And we soon find out that Thor is a depressed alcoholic who knows his daughter and wife are disappointed in him And he just wants his daddy's love God this fucking sucks Well, Thor is a fat fuck in this I would be pretty emotionally distraught if my if I Had that kind of relationship with my father. I value the relationships of you know, my family my parents in particular I think a lot of men feel a A special kind of bond with their fathers So that's uh, yeah, I'm sorry that just means so little to you as a concept I'm sure your father is very proud of you though. So as people pointed out lost two sons a brother. Yeah Muscular in any way, which is very to this point there Thor is just a fat fuck with no muscle definition But he's a badass And they try and make it when is he a badass or is he a loser alcohol? In lane in the like like, oh, yeah people saying he's badass like obviously not he's fat and Defined muscly and he's depressed and fucking toddler us impressions of what makes a character cool Yep. Oh, yeah, like I said, he's got a 10 year old and he's flying around Killing everybody in the strong cities anything else would be woke Being by our fight scene, but guess what it just takes away some of your combat mechanics That's the opposite of fun. You should give me special mechanics just for this encounter Anyway, a drunk mechanics So the idea with that sequence is that you don't get to have your ranged weaponry You've got to fight through with mealy Chalice woman. Oh, that's yeah, that's pretty big for someone. He criticizes being just a third person shooter character Yeah, he had to go mealy then he hated it apparently did yeah In a broader sense depriving the player of mechanics they used to having can create really powerful moments for them Don't take things away from them like willy-nilly of course, but you you can it's not strictly not fun come on Especially the tone of that scene is very light especially considering how heavy it gets at the end of it Yeah I would highlight by the way says the guy with 10k stockpiled xp Just doesn't use it does not lock all the fucking abilities. He has Grayson's way to niefelheim You get the mask without anything really special happening in this realm And then odin shows up, but so does sif in a couple of valkyries and sif manages to convince thore To try and kill atreus since kratos killed heimdall Not what happened, but that's fine. No, that's not what happened Like I said a lot of people come away with this interpretation. It's unfortunate because that's just not the scene, but okay I'm doing the best I can to keep this family together If that were true, you'd stand up to your father for once in your life You're right, honey. No You're right They were thrown at the all fathers problems like brittle knives to a mountain face And for what? But he uses his get out of jail free card this sundry conveniently thought to give him before he returned to asgard again I can't let you go back without this a hammer your key, please Are you worrying so much today? I just need to look out for the people I care about Like I'm getting to the point where I don't even feel like I need a comment It's just like so it wasn't convenient that he gave him something to help him in asgard He cares about him and provided him an escape from a place that's fucking hostile That's why and if uh, and if atreus didn't have that well Then he wouldn't have used it so he would have done something else Well, the thing is the sword protected him and odin wouldn't have let thor continue So a different story happens if if you absolutely get out of jail free card It would have been different and I bad thing curious what it would have been It's from happening to them Now the good guys have the mask Except one problem Brock of all characters notices that tear is calling atreus lowkey And so it turns out tear was odin the whole time. You'll notice, uh, whenever, uh, he calls atreus lowkey Kratos doesn't like that as well Kratos has a lot of facial expressions for tear. I think he would have been the second one to pick up on this Um Not happy with him, but yeah, obviously He's the no bullshit guy and not not like he's not an idiot. He's not dumb No, I mean, he's the guy who doesn't appreciate people's bullshit ever. Oh, you were talking about the youtuber no bullshit No And he kills brock But kratos manages to get the mask out of his hands just in time So it was completely pointless when he was pointless And uh, I hope that he's about to mention the obvious thing that happened in this scene Oh, yeah, he's about to be literally, but I don't very important to odin's fate. Wait, hold on. No, hold on. Wait, let's Brock kratos manages to get the mask out of his hands just in time So it was completely pointless. Well, I guess not completely, but I don't care about brock at all I'll be honest. Uh, once again Whether you care about him or not it's consequential to these characters And if you throw this into your analysis of a story that the problem is you don't care You have to acknowledge. I could say that about anything ever anyone could say that about anything ever If you're making a review try a Little bit harder. Yeah to maybe an argument make the review for people other than yourself Stop relying on these arguments But also like brock is so easily likable like even if his whole thing is like, you know, this is a game written by liberals And that's why I hate it. It's like brock is kind of a working class salt of the earth type Yeah, you think you'd really like brock Yeah, he's so easy to like Well, he said he didn't like any of the characters hates them all Except for heimdall, I guess. He's so basic and amazing. The sub is a huge But yeah, if heimdall were here dying I'm afraid was trying to heal you'd be like, oh my god No, not heimdall. Brock can die, but not heimdall. I don't know Emotional moment, but if you don't like any of the characters This scene's gonna completely fall flat and it gets even worse when you realize because odin didn't get the mask The game is now dragged out for another three hours In fact, I cut out a 30 minute sequence so it kratos and traitors fuck off to mid god Where while syndry becomes consumed with rage is a complete waste of time Oh Fuck off and out of character for kratos You don't even know what that means Yeah, which means it probably is in character Just the fact that you said that it was out of character means it was in character I mean, I don't even know what to say anymore It's like the conclusion of the game or like the you know the thing that syndry does with the hammer No Fucking what what what the fuck odin won't stop until we stop it. No, no, no This is extreme character assassination. This is fucked. No, let me back in there. Fuck you. No What's really interesting not is that having this reaction to this scene considering that Kratos soon says no, we can't do this. We can't just walk away is Interesting almost in a way. It's like he almost has fucked up and realized that something isn't quite right You know, he doesn't like I don't even think he he can recognize. He has to stumble accidentally And to sort of recognizing that this isn't how things should be It's As presented to you right kratos is obsessed with not becoming who he was One of the only people he fucking really likes in this world is just killed. That's the that's the prompt to go old kratos mode That's why he says we're done like I can't I'm not going to do that It's not going to be the thing that I do The conversation he has with atreus is well, sure you don't go nuts and kill everyone But you also don't do nothing You need to get out there and we need to make things better and the first thing they do is look out for sundry find out if he's okay Then once they see him and how everything is falling apart. He says the line All leads back to vengeance And then he goes back to waging the war because Thing is kratos has feelings too and uh, he really liked brock. This was difficult for him He was not sure what he was supposed to do here Nope, what are you doing stop This is oh my god, this is the shittiest writing in the world. Yeah mass piece my fucking dick estrogen wins He's such a clown He's a little goblin clown The women are more masculine than the men and no one's complaining about it You know again the people pretend to be against wokeness, but nobody's against this game Suck my fucking cock. You sell out pieces of shit Can we I want to know how much money they got from sony. There's no way. They're probably lost about 60 dollars actually I don't want to tell you man. Oh, no, this one's the greatest. I owe him a few I like the game. That's the answer. I haven't actually got any money from sony Well, it might depend on where like the country and stuff. So it might take a while so yeah Cowardly that they didn't get any money and they just didn't want to piss off their fans Fuck you all they're pissed off my friend. I pissed off loads of people by liking this game weird All of them are fucking pathetic No one cared about Brock that much NPCs maybe but not like real humans Oh NPCs Yeah, they had about Brock not like me. Yeah, you're all NPCs chance. So Humans who have an inner voice Now NPCs maybe they shed a tear for little blue man Nobody else. That's how that's how he gets that's that's how he reduces brocks. It's just a little blue man That's all Brock is yeah, isn't that fun like some people should just free free speech was a mistake Yes, we need to repeal everything it needs to be repealed and there needs to be a robot that decides who isn't isn't allowed to make video game reviews on youtube It's fucking wild And to be honest even those three hours feel really rushed Because in the final act of the game the heroes decide they need to build up their armies across all the realms So that sounds like a huge epic quest on its own right? Yes, but what is the actual quest? This is the big mistake a lot of people make when analyzing this He just said drag get your armies from all the realms. All right, so niefelheim's army. What does that include? Oh nothing, right. Okay. Jotunheim's army. What does that include? Atreus, I guess technically nothing like yeah from this scene It's still from this scene nothing moospelheim. It's like well surta. Well, our guys will go grab surta. That's a difficult one Yeah, okay. Okay. So what else you like? Svartalfheim the dwarves well cindy's gonna go try and deal with them, but obviously we know no dwarves come in Okay, well as god it's like well as god is the place we're attacking so really count as one of Oh, yeah, sure. Huh Well, what else vanaheim it's like we're getting valkyries vanaheim Huh, yeah, well, okay. Well helheim there. It's like yeah army of the dead. We're making a deal with The boss of the underworld which we get details on like okay alphime. Yep We're getting the the elves who a door frayer as if he was jesus What else is there like um, what realm am I missing? I'm trying to remember Uh Help me out chat. You mentioned mid god. Oh, yeah mid god. No army. Yeah Anything else So does that not sound a little bit different compared to grabbing the armies of the nine realms? Yeah But I don't like people's analysis of this moment in the story because they always make it seem like this It's a huge army when in reality. It's really not the brunt of the forces are the elves and the undead But we were robbed of god of war three battle of the nine armies anything is god of war three is The thing everyone's complaining about is that we grab them all up easily one move and then Which never should have been able to happen and they're all wiped out right at the beginning Pretty much except for I think the fire dude is wiped out a little bit later Well, and a guy has uh, oh, yeah guy has got an appearance at the end But uh, she doesn't get to do much once everyone's inside of her Yeah No, hey look, I'm describing what the events are. It's not Usually not even a lie Yeah, um, but with what I just described Yeah, you get envoys to the two places that need negotiations the most interesting thing I think out of all of these is going to see surta We get to do that We do Going to talk to the valkyries about how they need to come to war I don't I don't think we need to be doing that freya can do that It makes way more sense that freya would do that If that was in the game, I expected you to complain that there was another big Dialo waste of time thing waste of time. Oh crater's going to help for from the women snowy Pretty much very snowy could probably be the surter on game. It might have been originally He just suggested it could have been his own game the events. I just described They're not going to fulfill a fucking entire game. You kidding me Talking to to no talking to valkyries talking to the undead leader talking to valkyries talking to the alfime oppositions You could maybe contrive it so that some war has to happen before you can even get the alfine people But that's not the reality they wrote in the game with the history that freya has so they probably get to get a game That's like i'm going to join your army, but first you have to do these 17 things for us Yeah, I suppose you could pad it out that way, but I don't see the need Helms because that sounds a culmination of all the quests you've done across the two games We're dragging in everyone we can we're gonna go attack as god Like a huge epic quest on its own right could probably be the plot of its own game and might have been originally But instead kratos and atreus just make their way to moosebleheim again Meet surter and he's once again another depressed character who doesn't want to help Specifically because he knows both him and his wife would die But it turns I can't believe you you described it that way He's a depressed dude who doesn't want to help because it would lead to the death of him and his loved one Yeah, yeah He's sort of not depressed though. He's like, yeah, I have everything I need right here in the heart that's in his chest Love's loves being in love Yeah, it's pretty good pretty good Zao kratos can use the blades of chaos to enhance his powers instead, which actually does have consequences So I'll give the writers a bit of credit for that And so while kratos and atreus fight off two valkyries at the same time Surder becomes ragnarok, but it seems he's not quite ready to start the siege So kratos and atreus return to midgard and all of the allies gather and spend one last night In a little camp outside of the yeeg drissil portal room from the first game Atreus who I once again remind you is a teenage boy Request to sleep with his daddy one last time Before going to war I think he's gonna die Yeah, and even yeah specifically that Not wanting to be alone man before going into battle is that's a pretty pretty understandable emotion. I think Yeah, yeah There was an old man who chopped wood for his village Fuck you. Oh my god, you know when I played god the old the out of war games You know what I really wanted I wanted kratos to tell his fucking son a story his Great bedtime story kratos. Let's summarize one day There was a man who cut logs for his village, but then one day he got tired So he dropped the log to the ground and died the end Kid spent like a good percentage of his life dealing with this Crisis and he's like and also I'm only 13. I want my dad to tell me a story while I go to sleep For what might be the last time when we went over the story is a hell of a lot more meaning I don't even know this person managed to actually not even interpret the story properly No, it's just a face value. Oh, this is the story. Ha ha That's snowy for something I'm just I'm running out of things to say. I'm just annoyed now. Yeah Teenage son a bedtime story the fuck kratos is like crying again. I god damn it Really, I want to see kratos cry. That's really what I wanted to see Do you though? I don't think he ever shed a tear on screen like remembering his original family Him killing his original family. I don't know. Maybe they did. I don't remember Is he the treasure trove sometimes are just oh, it's beautiful. You are reviewing I'm back. Hopefully remember you can only express sadness if you cry. Yes But He's crying over some random bullshit random bullshit random bullshit. It's the Why even explain I because I know and you know And chat knows and we all know that we all know random bullshit. So there's really no need to explain And we are given the final flashback or vision of fey Kratos his wife and it's a completely pointless scene I wish to better a future. It probably has one of the most potent lines in the whole game here And that tree is pretty important to you And for our son He's upset that she said I want a future that's better for you and your yeah Like what is what is this like leaning back in your seat like facepalming? What's the problem like during kratos? Oh, why is she she expressed a desire for a will to be better for her husband and son? Well, I guess that just crosses a fucking line doesn't it? I guess so birds would want conservative family values Not if it's a woman doing it. She should know her fucking place. I'm gonna go have an angry pee Yeah, it's amazing how you hear metals mic in the background Oh Wait, what did he just say? What? video games Fucking wash together pay attention. It's not in but it's yeah, it's amazing how How people don't call out wokeness anymore What because amazing Because she wants a better life We've got a man and a woman are expressing their incredible Love for each other in the concept of living without each other Wokeness is it because he's expressing emotions like what is he getting at here? Wokeness is what he's getting at Yeah, real men bottle everything up and then suffer internal Collapse at like age 50 and then do something and then kill pantheons. Yeah. Yeah, they do that Everyone's a fucking grifter. They know there's He's like, oh, he's the ultimate NPC. He can't like have an original thought He just says he really is triggered by seeing things and just goes like woke I want to know where he got it from Who's is Whenever there's a there's a guy I watched named mc toon. He's a second worst rapper in the world And he does flat earth debates all the time and I really really like him And whenever he's uh interviewing or having a debate with a flat earther He asks who's your papa fluff? Which is who is the flat earth or that you watched and you just regurgitate what they say without any Like examination or evidence or or anything like that Who's the person that you watched that got you to think this way that you just repeat? I want to know who his I don't know what the term would be. Who is his Papa I don't even know What it would be who did he want who is this guy watched and been essentially indoctrinated by God knows. I don't go to that part of the internet. It's fucking foul mean either. I want to stay away Stinky views and calling you out Yeah, you're talking like Grief Despite the inevitable. Yes Oh, are you do you disagree with that? He doesn't understand what's happening? Look at his expression. He's like, what? What is that? Expression confusion To be vulnerable to the emotion grief requires love to come first I don't you don't read the loss of something I mean, it's it's a really poorly like built up line But the the whole hobbit thing of you know, why why do I feel this way? Oh because it was real like yeah like the concept behind that's actually really strong and it's the same thing here Like if you if you are immensely sorrowful at someone's passing It's because they meant something to you if they didn't you wouldn't feel about it Greaters is talking about how the the pain and the grief and stuff is all the reasons why you can't see much reason to go on And she's saying that means that you had lots of love dude. That's a that's a normal good thing You're okay. You're gonna be fine. Look after your son. You'll find plenty of things in this world They're gonna want you to make you want to keep going fucking brilliant It's like a line like that between vision and one more. Yes One of the things we like about that episode Is Yeah, exactly. There's no views and shitting on video games that the media tells you to like But there's plenty of money and shitting on movies and tv shows What? How many views did he get? The theory is that we didn't shit on god of war ragnaroks. There's no money in it I don't mean um clown is that Gotta be the money guys Gotta be the money. No one could actually truly really Man, I do I do love against all my snow money The video is called god of war ragnarok is not a masterpiece and in the thumbnail it says god of war is dead and it got 224 000 views It seems like there's views and hate on this game. So it does seem like there's views and Saying something that is actually defying the general sentiment Is there a single person in here that uses the sony playstation as their primary gaming platform? No No, not me not me No, yeah, I don't even know what my ps4 is. I don't I technically own one, but I actually also literally don't know where it is. I mean, I'm a bit snoy. I have all the playstations Snowing together I do have I guess to some extent i'm a little bit of a snoy fan boy snoy boy Yeah, I don't think we would just be standing for a game that we don't like at all if we weren't I don't know man. Yeah, we we managed to talk about it for like 20 hours Yeah, you know, that was all for money though. It was all yeah, I mean that's right And that's like good. Yeah money is going to arrive very soon Like the last new the last new snowy game that I streamed I believe was the last of us too, right? And I loved that I kept singing I did it You didn't hear it. It must have been the wind It is one of the least pleasant periods that she was living in the same house as me She's just like you're so miserable. I was like It was only like a weekend, but um, I I still hear about it to this day No sense. It makes no fucking sense And then the next morning right before the final battle kratos and freya give a rousing speech Probably the worst I've ever seen I mean All right, I always did prefer uh melons It was pretty good, but yeah In order to begin whether it's the bad cinematography or the incredibly bland room that the actual speak no speak more into that Everyone's in the frame. Can you please tell me what about it really hurt you like just let me know make an argument I beg you make one argument. He just said in to the writing which is not inspiring in the least I can hide no longer I do not want this war Oh good We have suffered enough Why couldn't kratos cut out why'd you leave out so much you cut out long off where he tries to inspire them Be aggressive take what they need to win give this speech after he blows gallo. In fact, why didn't I just put it in horn Prophecy did not leave. Oh, hey, there is good job. Mugler nor will it win this battle Wars are won by those that are willing to sacrifice everything If that is the cost of vengeance So be it Why couldn't kratos give this speech after he blows gallo horn and like your Because then they would have to do because then we have to fight a bit busy. That's why oh my god How can you be? In the locker room before the game He will argue against himself suited up in the background or something And we're given like a wide shot of all the armies or some shit, you know something like lord of the ring All the armies because he doesn't know which armies are even here. He couldn't tell you The undead and the elves they're the only two armies we have on the good guy side He thinks there's like nine realms worth of abby's attacking as god as if there are 10 realms in total Man, this is just lame. You can't tell me sony san amonica looked at this and thought yeah, this is fine This is cool. This will get the players amped up for the finale For brock All right, here we go. Yeah, how can I resist the music give it to me? On the empty dark room What happens And so anyway, he blows the horn They traveled asgard and we get our huge avengers end game moment And all of our buddies from the two game show I like how it's an avengers end game moment when there's just a battle and you're there talking about like Oh, yeah, the infection of all this marvel cringe just oh, yeah That's all you want and like you only put a reference for a big epic battle Or the one that you chose to use was it I guess it's because do you think end game sucks too? Porters, I guess I think that's yeah, maybe This is you got lots of references a big battle at the end Which apparently end game is now just offed everything else that did that before it Because like arriving via portals like I said, I don't think he knows what actually arrived No, because it was like what specifically like which armies and from where and when and what are they doing? Or against asgard and it's supposed to be a really cool moment, but honestly it's not I know people are gonna say Especially since I'm sure plenty people played this thought this was cool But none of this crazy epic background stuff that's happening Affects the gameplay outside of some random wyverns raining fire on the arenas if you just ignore the skybox This might as well just be a normal level of the game Except they just throw a slightly wider variety of enemies But my assumption is then he wants to be like No, you move through the different Events like you for a moment team up with jormungander battling thorn and you move over to I don't know some of the elves trying to Kill some people maybe fenria for a bit like going around the whole place I'm not going to rule it out as a possibility of it being super engaging I'm not entirely sure how I would go about trying to make that happen opposed to This is the very Ritian down-to-earth result of what it would probably be like with kratos arriving and what he needs to do Which is the first thing he figures out is i've got to Destroy the war machines of destroying our armies And kratos is always fighting as if he's fighting He's holding back normally and now we get to be real kratos fighting an actual war It's just it's more of the combat that's in this game And you cycle through a whole selection of all kinds of enemies that odin's collected to put it between you and your goal And then of course he has also assembled his own avengers and it's avengers versus avengers And I hate the marvels has seeped into everything And the only the only way that you could have gone a different Is to have a totally new gameplay style happen like okay now kratos is commanding the battle And it's a real-time strategy game for a bit, but honestly i'd be like wait why Why are we doing this in the finale of this game? Like I kind of like that it was just handsome It's some spectacle battles on the way to two Pretty engaging boss fights with some really good story stuff that happens at the end And you get to play as both player will characters It doesn't help that multiple times during the goddamn apocalypse The characters stop to have a heart to heart with each other. Are you remember how he said they should have had their speech in the fight? Now he's saying why the hell he is talking during a fight First of all, that's a bit weird. It seems like is it secondly the reason this is happening now Is because he's about to alter their entire approach Yeah This this is all about how he's going to order the troops and what they're going to focus on The complete change of their original strategy. Of course. He needs to talk to all of the general Yeah, that's why he has a little little firework thingy. It didn't probably not call fireworks I don't know if there's a proper term for these things like a signal flair flair is probably what I was Flur mide and vegan vegan flair I mean, I didn't want to use the drum and term because you didn't understand but yeah, man Yeah, and everyone comes around is like, okay, we're not going to sacrifice these innocent people go hold off ragnarok And uh, yeah, we're gonna go fuck up Odin I'm fucking kidding me. You've taken all the tension out of the story so many times Super tension because we It's essentially working But it's costing the lives of essentially innocent people on the other side And so now we need to figure out a way to delay the plan so we can get them out Which is actually more difficult than the plan we currently have They're partly to show their time together and to show how she is still trying to push him to do what she wants Again, this doesn't even matter to the story at all the culmination of the three flashbacks Or visions, whatever they are is for kratos to tell his son that he should feel bad for the things he kills He should have empathy for every living creature in the world I mean, it would certainly be worthwhile to have some empathy for these Like innocent people right there. Yeah, it's it's really not bad advice. Yeah Just generally how you should have empathy for other living creatures. Like yeah, you probably should Have respect for the action of killing even when it's necessary He seems to be here like no kratos should not tell his son to stop trying to convince himself to kill civilians Or to allow the death of civilians Remember he laments that we've lost the days of killing random Athenians and getting health orbs. Okay That's what you want So funny because I was like almost this just running theme with me and my streams I was like That's something that it is really hard to get rid of if I had a whole fucking absurd cartoonish that is and then like It's essentially addressed in one of the biggest payoffs of this game finally We shouldn't just kill civilians man. It's a little fucked up No health orbs So there were there were like multiple points to those scenes This is one of the payoffs that's facilitated by the fey flashbacks. Oh, yeah I was wrong Open your heart to their suffering and does your mother's wish In mind as well fucking cra- remember what he was saying by the way, this is his follow-up video We're getting this footage from he said the fey scenes had no point now. He's saying they all lead to this Though they did have a point then make up your mind. Yeah, he can't Because he has different information at different times a dose of all people says this that is possibly the most Yeah, this is the arc. This is the whole fucking point like a hundred hours of awking that they did Finding moment of character assassination. I'm actually kind of annoyed at myself that I brushed over it So thanks for reminding me of another horrible scene from the end of the horrible scene, man Horrible not to mention you have to play as a trace again and he gets to go full bear mode guys He's upgraded from a wolf to a bear He's climbed another tear on the gay scale I didn't know the bears were gayer than wolves. Yeah, I wasn't aware of that metric That's a new one bear is a term used for a a large, uh, harry gay man Is it? But I I guess that's if that's the joke that's not it's really a I mean, but even then I don't know if that really if is that the joke or I think I think that's the idea But like if he was aiming for um You know becoming like it It must be related to the to the big harry sort of sort of guys It couldn't be that he just thinks inherently that wolves are gay and then bears a gayer The bigger and harry are the Yeah, and so that's why the joke is the joke is wonky, but um, it's not like he tries bad There you go. Good enough immediately. He talked no jutsus through out of killing him No, he mom does. Oh Yes, man like So she was she wasn't gonna be uh convinced by atreus Yeah, atreus sets it up and syph is there with skilder and that sort of seals the deal syph is syph has a minor yet very important role to play in this game. Yep. Yep Put in for everything and it works Oh my god, the apocalypse is happening and these are obstacle currently these two are big players in the oppositions team Deciding which side they're gonna fight on. Yes. The wall will actually take second fiddle to this Yeah, I mean plus it doesn't really matter what's going on elsewhere in the world If you've got someone with a sword to your chest, that's probably your primary Uh concern also if it's someone that you consider, you know, at least friendly with and you want the best for them You don't want to you know have any harm come to them Yeah, and having a tall bust busty bond woman in your game with long rapunzel hair is so woke Yeah, but she's taller than atreus I'm sure that synthetic man thinks that odin settled with syph Do you mean sore? You mean sore, right Did I not say odin? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thor Mixed them up. Okay Apocalypse is happening. Do you understand? There's no fucking time, dude This is this is just a bad movie. I love how a good video game story is a bad movie. That's that's what people think Holy shit That's what people say. We've only known this guy for like 10 minutes total of screen time, by the way He is an innocent person. He represents all of the midgardians. He's just another guy Yes, you don't know him deeply because you don't need to you're supposed to care that he shouldn't be killed randomly That's the whole point. He represents Just a dude trying to look out for his own people And he interacts with atreus enough that you understand that hey, he's just a guy who's like, yeah, we're here for midgard It I think it's really cool that you're the all fathers apprentice He's just nice to him that's all and so all the good guys team up Kratos finally has I fucking love this comment on his on his unlisted videos You know Thor is more Kratos from god will one two and three than Kratos of these games. I wonder if that was deliberate I I almost I could imagine the developers are like, yeah, you know, right? Yeah, good. You picked it up It's like why it picked up what like what do you mean? That's a mistake, right? Like No, no, that was There's a big old whoosh that he loved it as well This is second chair. I didn't check the replies. I should have I'm pretty sure they'll be like I think that's what they were going for though Showdown against Thor after beating him He actually manages to convince him not to fight anymore for the sake of their children This is god of war this game No, sorry If you were paying attention, you would know that that's something that would appeal to Thor Like that that he wants to protect the family that he still has left That that's one of the big things that would make him change his mind Is to protect through And then every time you just like oh, but it's god of war the other games had this This reminds me that the insight he has for us every fucking time anything different than someone's head getting torn off is Why aren't their heads getting torn off? Why? Yeah, it's god of war vicious little child excellent Gods that's like one of the main points of playing these games Again, the power the main point of playing them is you rip people's heads off and have a power fantasy about being a vicious mood How are you not getting the power fantasy anyway? You are you defeat Thor? Yeah You still got to find all of these. No, it doesn't count unless you rip his head off The original games were all about being over the top violin and just giving you an excuse to go through big action set pieces against gods and other stuff The new games are not Yeah, you got like six games of this type though If you wanted to quibble about that, I think you missed the boat. You should have got on that or in 2018 I think you might get on that in 2018 one two, so just keep complaining If all of you know it's like all of his criticisms about character assassination He keeps saying this is not og kratos. This is not og. He's like every single time There's a scene that develops kratos. He refers back to og kratos. So like none of them count in retrospect you can't uh Like every single significant moment of luke's journey in the ot. I just keep going back to that first scene we meet him I'm like, this isn't that kid anymore fascination Whatever kratos is a changed man. He's super mature now guys and of course argue against it. You haven't Can't really cringe really sorry Come on horse as soon as thor agrees to lay down his arms odin stabs him in the back literally My memory is shit It's not your memory is that you wouldn't fucking consuming the information. You don't like you have nothing to forget I don't know we record the line Yeah, he literally stabs him in the back of the visual of him stabbing him from Well, he says he does how do you get to this point and then not just reread I don't know we record the whole fucking thing. It was a mess. It was a complete disaster He's So now we have our final boss battle He's just not gonna talk about the fact that odin made that choice like you've got nothing to say about why he would make that choice No, it doesn't matter. Fine. That in line with the way the odin's motivations and the way that he conducts himself He's just a fat alcoholic. You know what he gives a shit. I know. Yep. So you saw Yeah, that's true. Yeah all team even though he also liked the comment that he was more like prados Even though he kept shitting on him and calling him a fat drunk Makes you think that apparently he's really cool more so than kratos and ax more like kratos is for the time Yeah Lay waste to him and it's an absolute button mash fest All I did was spam runic attacks the entire time and did surprisingly well beat him in one try Everybody described that as really fun Yeah, and we were confused it sounded like a criticism. It's a criticism now It really feels like a step down from every other final boss in the series Hey mel ate it a step down from god will wads final boss Yeah, sure Those fucking frustrated shit the the funny thing of course is the it's like, okay, but god will too. It's like I mean that zoos fight is fine. Yeah. Yeah the god will three is like, oh That zoos fight is fine. I guess 2018 it's like, okay the boulder fight is pretty fucking cool in 2018. That's pretty cool And uh, so yeah, it's like so I'll give you that that's competition for the boulder fight, but uh Yeah, my favorites out of the five if we count them that way is probably gonna go bolder than odin Yeah Against balder felt more epic than this. Oh, hey, he agrees with you. Yeah, cool. All right Really no sense of scale. You're just fighting him in a basement This is the location Of the the access to all knowledge and it came down to a single personal decision from one character that Is in complete opposition to the villain. Yes, we are fighting. Well, it's like, um Is where it's set about as card and how it looks compared to mount olympus. It's the same thing It doesn't look grandiose enough for me in my own way But just not grasping the story that the the arenas are built around what is happening in these events Like the idea that's like we're fighting odin therefore it must be of enormous scale. It's like, oh That's it. That's all you got Okay, and I mean the getting not enough golden pillars Getting to odin was a giant enormous scale battle Yeah, like it's just only the battle itself is in his like, I guess you could call a workshop or library Where he was trying to solve the macguffin And he jigspells at you. Oh and somehow I almost forgot at the end of the first Oh, sorry, he just made fun of the fact that he uses spells He's like a see I don't know why only women use magic The slamming out of it steel The phase against odin braya gives the cringiest line in the game You have no hold on me anymore Wow so brave. Yeah, it is stunning and fucking brave, dude Not woke at all guys. Not woke at all. It's literally just a woman. It's literally just because she's a woman It took two games to get to Always sought knowledge. Well Doesn't even work. They're uh him on a log and cost say this. Yep I'm going to teach you what it's like to lose one of freya's big flaws And it's come through several again and again. She has serious vengeance vibes Everything Bow to your queen Really My god, this comes across as some kind of feminist torture fantasy. What the fuck and of course when you finally beat him Instead of killing him. There was no arguments. He just said that it was Won't cringe feminist cringe Nothing nothing to work with him Kratos lets his son decide and he decides to trap odin's soul Inside of one of the giant marbles But then like an absolute chad Sindri comes in and smashes the marvel That's what comes next I take back everything I said by him being a possible pedophile as soon as his brother dies He actually becomes the only other based character in the game. And so that's that's his analysis of all of it Just uh, it's like it's like listening to a child Like that it's everything is so surface deep. There's no distinction between meme-y jokes and actual analysis The hero except there's one problem Because serter didn't fuse with his waifu brag narak is out of control But the hero's man should escape offscreen. Probably gonna happen anyway. That's why he didn't let her involve Yeah, gotta listen to this. Remember how he said angra boater doesn't have any purpose in the plot Okay, I don't know that now listen to how he describes how they escaped up. There's one problem because Serter didn't fuse with his waifu brag narak is out of control, but the hero's managed to escape offscreen I'm gonna go pee you guys talk about that I don't want to talk about it. They managed to escape offscreen So in the scene we have frayer Sacrificing himself to save all of our other characters after he's able to pretty much single-handedly hold back ragnarok for all this time We have angra boater showing up with using Finrear to Save everybody at the last moment using a tear in the realm so that they can escape um I mean, it's it's like the wolf thing. It's like tearing apart the wolf and saying there's no gore You cut it right before these things get their payoff so that you could hold to the previous lie that you know is a lie Because you played through the game and you purposefully cut out it at this point. So Very disappointing and yet yeah 100 percent uh expected unfortunately Yeah, that's what happens. It's a damn shame I hope that the youtube video game reviewers of tomorrow Can use synthetic man as an example of what not to be what to avoid what really Just what kind of a person to not be um It's It's unfortunate that he exists. I suppose though He can't exist as a bad example for people to profit from you know and grow from A man Like there are legitimately people who listen to this and watch this video and they're like, yeah, you tell it You tell them. Yeah, he's saying it like it is. All right. They can listen to him physically just out It just just out loud say yeah youtube videos are they don't have any staying power They're not worth being honest for they don't matter. I'm not gonna tell the truth I know I get mistakes, but I'm not gonna change whatever doesn't matter based omega blah blah blah And people will listen to that flat out stark admission And be like yeah, this guy's so great. He's awesome. He's speaking for the real gamers He's such a cool reviewer. He knows what's up You know, they're out there this video was you know, still pretty well received when it was You know a smaller and before people found out about it. I mean, he's got a he unfortunately has a a core audience that Really thinks he's got something productive to offer the world What a damn shame. What an absolute shame This is a game that I have no intention of playing. I don't own a sony system I know I do technically on a ps4. I just don't know where it is. I have no interest in god of war really I have no they never played any of the games And I really really enjoy this game story and characters So to to see this much work and effort go into a video game story Is incredible and it should be something that's applauded and lauded and encouraged Into the future And he's just shitting all over it and he refuses refuses to engage with it In any sort of good faith way. There's no honesty whatsoever It's like it's that it's the people who profess so strongly to be Honest and I'm always telling the truth and you could always believe me They all it's like they're compensating for what the truth is that they're gonna be the first people who are willing to lie to you It's hard to take that seriously when you said anger voted on do shit in the plot line And then when you have to show the scene where she does the thing You not only cut her out, but then you claim that they they escape off-screen Again, like it's This like you're a fucking liar And yeah, you're right. There's no right moment of lying Mr. I am oh, you know, he said the only principle he really has is just being honest. He's just too honest, Mahler He's just too honest. That's really his only flaw is that he has too much of a good quality Number one brand and honesty you might say By the way chat I know this is gonna sound crazy and man, it's getting tough because I'm fucking tired as hell But we're not even close to the worst yet Wait, oh, we've got another hour and 20 Oh There's one problem to the top of some mountain Where atreus tells his father that he needs to go off on his own quest with angrobota To go find the rest of the giants and in the only other touching moment in the game Kratos finally lets go of his son and allows him to be his own man And I really have nothing to complain about here. I think I'm shocked Well, yeah, it's uh, he sounded pretty moved by it. So let's see how he looked uh when he was when he was streaming Maybe he's conflicted. Maybe he knows he should be feeling something I feel like it's like it's your emotions. He could there's nothing to complain about. He didn't know what to do He couldn't get any like quick digs in Iron giant did it better. Well, yeah, that's because iron giant sacrificed himself kratos is still alive Okay Like uh, it's so simple. It's like how is the story better in iron giant because he died better And then immediately afterward we find out there was a secret second prophecy That kratos was to become the new revered god of the north That's right Shut the fuck up let him have one victory will you Effectively tying him to this place meaning this is the end of his story. No This literally isn't the end of his story Exactly Will you join me? We got shit to do He even says it is a part of this game if you want Actually a pretty good way to end a video game to be like, yeah The main story is done now keep playing if you want or or not. It's fine He literally says that he saw a path that he had what what does a path imply by way of the conclusion of one's journey You stay still at our dud. Ah, yes, I there's a path, but I'm not gonna walk it. I'm I'm done. I'm I'm perfect I'm completely I ain't going. There's nothing to do. There is nothing to do. You don't need to join me I'm just gonna stay here forever And I for that I don't want to see sony butcher kratos anymore. I am They're gonna make a lot more They're making more god of war games. Yep, they're gonna make more two I will not buy a god of war game starring atreus I fucking guarantee you if they did bring these things out and they were worth covering for the algorithm You'd do it at a hobby. You would do it. You already know you have zero integrity They better either reboot this shit or just let it die The sad thing is you get to play the post game immediately after this and there's a bunch of other side quests That's a sad thing. He's about to explain what sad rags basically that he fucking loves the post game stuff He loves playing the game berserker super bosses to fight And when I played a few more hours, I actually was having fun consistently You know why? Okay, because I could actually do what I want I could actually engage in the gameplay and fight enemies and just ignore the ambient background dialogue because it really didn't matter Without having you already did that anyway You already said those your whole approach You can spend a lot of time doing side content before you decide to finish the game And this is why Done that the whole time He doesn't realize you can I honestly put us all in 20 hours in after they said, okay, meet us at the I have like Pierce temple and we'll go to asgard. I was like, okay Home 20 hours in the process Potually driving off fans insane because they'd be like, please carry on with the story. We're like, no, Bezeka I had fans who were like jesus christ. No, not a gravestone. He'll be here for an hour I told him that I was like, yeah, you gravestone. Wow. Here's the my streams. They're like Mueller videos fighting one berserker Well, that was the thing for me. I found it really engaging to learn. Yeah, the berserkers Yeah, they're good to deal with forced walks or countless cutscenes or stupid emotional bait Or any of the other bullshit that is in modern sony games Just wandering around the realms even though it was areas I'd already been to Was more fun than the actual goddamn story mode The linear story was less interesting than wandering around You're sorry, but you didn't understand basically any of the fucking plot points You got so confused and of the stuff you did understand you didn't read the dialogue that preceded it So you thought like what he's what he's in his bed looking at the the pouch for fail You're like, why should I feel sad here? What even prompted this? I don't even know what's happening It's like exactly you don't know How could you judge the story? How can I take you seriously on what you think of like God the gameplay is so much better than the story. It's like you don't even know what the story was What's the point also sounds like you would have had way more fun if he just tried to zero out every side quest He got as he got it because there's usually like a big story event And then you've got an area where it's like let's head to the next place But if we want let's tie up some side quests And you can just do a big side quest excursion for like a couple days if you want Perfectly viable way to stretch out the experience make it feel like you're doing more gameplay focused stuff And then you know when you're ready to get back to the story you can Been paying so much attention On the world in quests. How do you fuck up this bad? Forgive me if I don't pay attention to the countless pointless dialogue. Quit talking over the game You really want to hear all this shitty dialogue dude? Yes below the 70 dollars yourself on the shitty game If you really care about the dialogue I'm the idiot me I'm the guy who doesn't understand video games. He doesn't understand narratives. Finally spitting facts. Yeah based Finally, there's that truth. Yeah The game's totally 10 out of 10 guys if you just ignore all the constant cut scenes and walking simulator moments and fake loading screens And shitty atreus gameplay segments. It's totally 10 out of 10 game of the year 2022. No doubt I'm not gonna name any names here because I don't exist to just start drama with Random other youtubers There are people who are supposedly real film critics people who actually analyze stories in their structure Who are ignoring all of the obvious flaws with this game? If this was a film these people would be ripping it to shreds. Now he could be talking about anyone Okay Lots of people for us to think he's talking about You've had but because it's a video game. They have no standards Oh, it's tuned in a mall or stream for 10 seconds and he's sewing. Wait, I know him Yes, uh, sorry. I just I want to make sure you hear this right because hear this event compared to what I said on stream These people would be ripping Watch together what you're doing It's tuned in a mall or stream for 10 seconds and he's sewing out over the dog Yeah, no, that's that's that's his co-hosts were friends I can't believe we're like 10 minutes into the game and they already did like a seriously impactful death. How the hell did you do that? Performances man, they're already top-notch you hear like uh in in a I'm not 100% sure on the name of the actor for atreus, but Man, he was salad in that emotion I I like as a almost response to the trauma Criticism's like let's let's let's let's fight. Let's just get our minds off it in atreus this time doesn't even um Like usually he probably concede with a complaint, but this time he just says no fuck that I'm mourning my dog. Oh And credit respects it too. So he's sewing out over the dog This is on the fly story analysis where I'm trying my best to explain why there's like writing happening beyond me Just enjoying the story itself. He's like soy Yeah Like why do we even like video games? This is why I want to ask like people like mauler where it's like if you're okay with this if you think this is amazing Why do you like video games? This is called a cut scene Yeah, they're in video games that has story heavy. That's fine with me. I like stories. I like video games Yeah, so there's a pretty cool So my favorite video games are old time. Uh, they are referenced as such because of what stories they tell Yep Sorry, I didn't mean to upset you by existing Why don't movies or tv shows are also like movies and tv shows Read a book. Yeah, we do. Uh, those don't have gameplay elements to them. Uh, so Yeah, I'm not really doing it because I can't I can't play a movie in the same way I play a game Like I mean, here's a pretty fundamental thing. You don't get to experience this particular story if you don't play this game Exactly Anything I just can't believe he literally does not hold the same standards to movie Like that he does for movie storytelling as he does for games consistency, baby I've tacked this game as much as I could with that and you've ended it as much as I could as well Yep, we have things to criticize, but they were fairly few and far between They did a lot of work and it shows. I really don't like the camera There you go literally has almost all the same problems as the marvel movies have Oh Let me guess it has too many women. Oh, definitely It's letting that slide. Are you fucking kidding me? By the way, he doesn't want to call out anyone specifically. He definitely doesn't want to stop drama. All or hates less is super Not it. Yeah, exactly. I'm wondering if he hates less is too just a bandwagon because I feel like the two games have a lot of the same problems. Imagine we had a whole e-fap on the last of us two I had to watch that fucking game for my job Jesus christ comparing the two the quality of storytelling. Oh my god What the fuck is this We're here to kill life less than that. Maybe this is the worst possible time we have in this conversation right I literally lost it when freya's brother started talking to her when she was the bird and it started talking back Lastly, there is no point even attempting to explain the flaws of this game in maulers chat or any chat Because people are so pathetic that they will attack you because you said something negative about a fucking video game Blame we said something positive about it in your tactus A fucking video game if you like the game like it But I can criticize aspects of it and that's the only way developers can get better and make better products Not blind praise. Also. I said the dialogue and humor is marvel phase four level and mauler seriously said I don't know what marvel humor means. Can you explain that that is objective obfuscation? No, that's like a really good question One sec. Yeah, he harded it and the response if he doesn't know what marvel humor is he probably has brain damage Or despite his claims, he doesn't consume media or the most pro pro Probable reason is that he's a grifter only pretending he doesn't know because controversy sells Now chat Of the ones of you who may have watched the last episode of open bar Now, you know why I asked that question The rags don't want to target you specifically. Give me your definition of marvel humor go Hmm If I was going to define marvel humor I would say it's humor at any cost humor that clashes Uh against characters how they would behave what their relationships would be and humor that undercuts the The emotional intentions of a scene Um, that's what I would really classify as marvel humor myself See, I think that's totally fair. I would gun for if I had said it about something I likely meant there's a mandate for the humor and that it'll come uh in in conflict with other tones That's typically what I think of marvel humor. So you might think to yourself Wait a minute. Well, you just gave a definition. Why were you asking this man what he meant by marvel humor? It's like because everybody has a different definition and you'd be like, we might agree or we might not No, they don't and so of the people I have asked I collected a little list So marvel humor is jokes that undercut drama All right jokes despite the urgency of the situation Okay, jokes that characters simply wouldn't say Jokes being spammed jokes that simply describe reality They're not even really jokes. They just say what the thing is jokes that denigrate history or source material Jokes that are just not funny Jokes that have every character be witty Jokes that are incredibly childish Jokes that operate at a single layer Jokes that get run into the ground Jokes that come across as algorithmic Jokes that are inoffensive and safe Those are all of the types of answers I've had. I've only asked like five people So when I say what the fuck do you mean by it has marvel humor? That's what I'm asking Which one of those are you saying is in this game? Let me know. No, but that's that means you have brain damage or okay My bad. That's the only possible explanation. It couldn't be that people have different definitions Only fools to find their terms Different understandings of what these things are Right, you got very lame The apocalypse is happening. The apocalypse is happening and they're having a heart to heart You're telling me moller was okay with this Why does it? I don't know why in my opinion matters to you so much But yes, I was okay with this because of the fact that it's about them changing their entire strategy for the war They need to actually talk and explain it Yeah This is what i'm saying like, holy fuck. Why have you stopped all these people who are respected in the community are incompetent hacks And you thought you're an incompetent Like that feels like an attack, but okay careful It's on how moller has nothing to say about the sad message. I already said about the many things I think he has incredibly shit taste in video games. I'm glad he only talks about like movies and tv shows now as far as I know I mean I should taste in video games So like you really like soma you really hated the last of us too, but apparently you only did that for clout and money Well, it ranks. I really like dead space So I really like that space Yeah, so that's that's not very well. I mean a broken clock, right? Yeah, so we'll give you dead space, but I assume that means dead space too as well Resident evil four have heard that he's a big fan of that game. It's unfortunately one of my favorites of all times It's one of my favorites of all times. I own it on like five different systems or whatever. Um, okay Well, well, well, that that that's also an exception to the room. Who knows broken clocks can be right several times a day Well, I mean, don't you really like the the god of war games? Oh, shit. No, that doesn't count. Oh, uh, oh Well, okay, that we'll not counting those three and that's one of two. Spyro. Um, fuck. He's banjo-kazooie music He probably thinks that game's good like I do. Oh, fuck as well Well, he has shit taste. There you go. Now. I don't have to worry about having to fight for this game I can just say he has shit taste I sat in all like a couple years but uh I'm glad you started talking about video games because this is where I didn't Like what does it even mean to say that if you haven't watched if he hasn't watched your channel in two years It was really funny to have an understanding of what your takes were he admits on anything At one point in one of these streams that uh, his elden ring video He was annoyed that he got so much trouble for it Just because the fact that he was more critical of it than most people like he was Didn't think elden ring was amazing and I was just sitting there thinking like man We were like one of the only people I thought that got in trouble for being critical of elden ring But of course, no we sell out or we broke a clock blah blah blah like I just it's so sad You can't just accept the fact that it can't even come to you that I just enjoyed the game It can't be I have to have shilled it has to be that I was paid off has to be that I have shit taste Yeah, it's worse definitely. I mean the game is written by anthony birch. Yes. All right. Yeah Yeah, I know I I actually left a line for that I I was thinking What do I put there? What do I put is like the clip to represent anthony birch but Again, you know moller likes it. So I mean it's masterpiece. I'm gonna say what is happening. Why am I? I'm sorry. I liked it. I didn't mean to well I fucking hate this new trend that sprung up of like policing the devs of every fucking video game like we'll go digging through The entire writing staff of god of war or whoever or whatever the fuck game to try and find someone who has opinions that are disagreeable to us on like a You know intuitive sense level and it's like yeah, the game's gonna be terrible because this person is working on it without any kind of Understanding of how much impact they may or may not have on the final finished product Got off at that part. Did you see the sword protect him? Wow I do want to show everyone the map. Is he really a full blown grifter now like why is that impressive? Okay Someone in his chat said moller said that the sword protecting atreus was a really awesome detail. He said is he a grifter now? I don't know if you have trouble with this talking about semi sentient swords It's neat because atreus Senses the nature of a thing trust the sword throughout the game and the sword comes through from and protects him from Mjolnir, which was set up earlier in the bar as a possibility. I think that's a neat I'm sorry Are you paying rent for the time spent in his head? Oh, no, it's completely free. Wow Flicks level writing. Yes. What does that even mean? Netflix level writing so that could be amazing or terrible and everything in between An arcane and arcane and all these shows that are very critically acclaimed and well loved by many people But netflix writing I guess Idea I do want to show everyone the map Is he really a full-blown grifter now? Like why is that impressive? This is netflix level writing. Yes But no, it's awesome. I mean the king of e-fab falls under the umbrella What? The king of e-fab likes it everyone But it's on your channel. I did what well. I did vote for you I don't remember. I don't remember establishing any vasillage. What's this? Yeah, I don't I mean, I guess I'll take it I don't know I didn't know I was visiting royalty soon. I know This is cringe. I'm He's the no-broxying with the spear is cringe It's so good. If you don't like this, you just don't have a soul. Well, let's see what I mean Ironic is that statement is but I mean Yeah I'm creating just start tearing people's heads off and that means you're a child This means you are a child. Remember how we said he just wants to see people's heads getting torn off It's literally his little this little rant there. Oh great guys. God. The profile is complete. Oh my god. No This is cringe. I'm cringing just start tearing people's heads off and having their entrails like decorate everywhere This is horrible. Yeah, this stop writing this stop Moller likes this game, by the way Damn straight absolutely. We like really annoyed What a weird experience it wants for me to be like I'll watch his playthrough So I get a real handle on how that he keeps fucking talking about me Okay Sorry, I've destroyed your whole life apparently Loves it. Nice. They are really Synthetic man is the living embodiment of the phrase growing old is mandatory, but growing up is optional Dude, I think Make for a great title to say some of the lines of synthetic man the god of war grew up and left him behind Oh Oh, yeah that oh, I like that. That's nice I like really we're supposed to care about this 10 out of 10 though. Moller loves it boy god of war Moller loves it guys It's so funny because I see the scenes in the game. It's like man. This was like random throughout the whole Yeah, yeah, he keeps just randomly coming back to how I like a game. I'm sorry great game I feel like maybe it's something that he got to add a lot or something I heard you like Yeah, make sure you don't miss that one. Look what he says after he says it the Fenrir moment ending we're supposed to care about this 10 out of 10 though. Moller loves it, dude Great game Moller like this. Yeah Remember that Wait, is this bad wait? When you when you put in Fenrir's soul into garm, it's like that's bad part. No, he's Saying at the end of the game and he's concluded. It's terrible. That's when Fenrir meets up with you at the end Oh, okay. Yeah. The i5 word just says he says baller likes it by the way dot dot dot remember that Because he's he mentioned my um, my reputation earlier, so I think this really is about like he's just like You cannot trust baller. He lies. He shills. He griffs Grift or Oh bad. Moller likes this. Just keep that I think that you know how he dislikes ed PCs Hmm Playing the same dialogue Moller likes this The problem is most people are dumb and they become fanboys. So they're not going to be like, huh Moller The guy famous for like really logical criticism Thank you, by the way All the logical criticisms from this game name three. I feel like I addressed all of your story criticism. They were pathetic Yeah, now are you gonna remember that and take that forward and maybe reconsider some of his opinions? He wants to take down my credibility now apparently He's gonna have to try a little bit harder and he can start by paying attention to the game. He's playing It's not a big ask, but well every time a fucking brain lit pasturing of man these people They just don't have any introspection. They don't you know, they're not really thinking about the stuff they consume You know from this motherfucker The guy who proudly announces I have no idea what's happening at this game And I don't I'm not going to change if you want to listen to the dialogue Yep, you can't like this game if you're right This guy can't be right wing he likes this game Can I use this? Someone calls me a fascist I feel like wait, you don't understand. You don't get it Does mauler actually enjoy this is how much does he play to the game? I can't believe mauler. Well, I can believe it, but Imagine playing this you're like, this is awesome. I love this. This is great That's an impeccable impression I don't know what that was. Well, it's like his it's like his hitler impression for um, who was that other The the the character he's trying to be Oh, who was that earlier? I forget. It was so long ago. You see president of sony Oh, yeah, the president of sony and what whoever's making the decisions on the app In what way? I don't know dude a mauler's game criticism I don't like dark souls 2. Yo, call out dark souls 2 nine-hour series Was very flawed. I I can't remember anything specific because it's been so many years I suppose the funny thing is like well, of course you'd hate my videos. I reference details. I go for accuracy I do research. It's really fucking lame and soy. I can't imagine It makes him feel bad. Yeah I apologize So I remember being like this argument doesn't make any sense like multiple times Oh, okay, then any sense. All right. He got you now. Mutely. Mauler's great game criticism was never that good. It really wasn't Does anyone like him? Does anyone like atreus? Seriously any person? Mauler likes him I mean I I put up with him, but you know Just give me more reason to not take e-fab seriously on it. You really think we give a shit I mean this should this proves if anything that we're amazing that you think we're bad I was gonna say yeah, why the hell would we want your approval? It would be with fuck it up significantly Yeah, like you suck like you're malls. You're terrible I've never seen someone managed to be as wrong as this as consistently as this. Yeah, I guess. Yeah It's kind of it's kind of remarkable Um, how consistently wrong he's paid not not even just kind of just dead wrong. He's like really fucking wrong aggressively wrong aggressively just chatting complete nonsense He has a he has a level of confidence that is just Not justified to have Like if you're if you're gonna be this confident you better be Damn good. Whatever you're doing that joke from community where there's this like kind of fat naked guy next to two teachers One of them looks at him goes man You are confident and then the other teacher just goes you shouldn't be I mean I already came to that conclusion a while ago, but Yeah, actually I might actually have to agree with that about efeb sucking after dishonored wolf left If you play video always how many years ago? I don't I don't even know unless just But this way wolf would not fucking like you Yeah, he's probably not very fond of you my dude. No Go games actually play video games. You would notice. This is why I suspect mallard doesn't really play video games You got me. Yes. You got me I don't play video games of it. No, no, no, that was all a fucking Psyop I didn't actually play any of those games metal was playing them But he was informing me ahead of time what to take account for And then when people were like oh, I'm all to do a particular thing. I would be like And then I'd be like, ah, here I go doing the thing you said Hey metal play god of war one two three as well. It's gonna be useful That's why metal was able to beat the final boss so quickly was because he had so much practice beforehand He was able to nail it for mallard stream. It's fucking hilarious considering He was so unaware of all the the skills he could even unlock how anything worked the second He actually started using them. He was like, oh, wow. I'm doing damage now. That's weird And then of course he doesn't pay attention to any dialogue and has no idea what's happening in the story And yet he accuses me of not playing the game really You know the audacity to Just not playing not playing games in general apparently as well. Yeah, that's the thing I haven't played any games. It's all a lie. No Thing he does Is the lack of level design is so obvious an apparent the lack of level design that is level design That is level design Right now for those for those of us who are blind and just can't see it Maybe you should elaborate for us as fools who can't see it We we value greatly from your insight on why the level design is so terrible Boring just running A lot of people is pretty popular is on like four podcasts or something I'm so sorry that upsets you he's like I wish I was on like one I am on several podcasts talking about media with people. I really enjoy I Just what I do for a living All is as bad as act man. Well, you can judge someone by their friends, right by their choices and friends And we know that's easy for some of them, but no friends to generate somewhat Uh You can judge someone by their friends, right by their choices and friends and we know he surrounds himself with Generates somewhat Yeah, boy, well, okay, maybe this will inform it a little bit better. I'm ever on evap. This is not gonna go well It's not gonna go well at all. Correct I'm just gonna insult all of them and then get banned Bro, he's baiting because he wants some he does I know exactly what I'm gonna call rags, which is gonna give me bans Um Wait, what sorry I'll roll him back Yeah, I think I see where he's going here. I know exactly what I'm gonna call rags, which is gonna give me bans Yeah, I'm gonna call j which is gonna give me bans. What is what is your problem? It's just so cool, dude What if anyone was curious As time goes on you're gonna discover why this man is never coming on evap He is an attention-hoaring little goblin clown and he's not going to be able to get anything from us Goblin's so great. Hello He's desperate And the reason this comes later than the rest of the videos because I wanted to show you guys that that was Tackled on its own that was a separate thing. This is a whole new thing Three is fucking desperate and it's cringy. It's soy. It's beta. It's the opposite of a chad You're obsessing over us Is that that man fantasizing about being on evap is He's one. He's maybe the most insecure people that I've ever seen. Yes But it's cute chat of him if it weren't so fucking disturbing with a lot of the stuff he says He is fit only for mockery And my god, what fuel for mockery ain't Oh, yeah, exactly. I'm gonna call regs. It's gonna get me banned I know he said I don't recall jay, which is gonna get me banned and That's that's the problem. They all have very obvious flaws Yes Okay. Yeah, so fuck you basically My obvious flaws Hello For anybody who was like wow you weren't you you went hard on this guy and he'd done nothing to you Yeah, man, unfortunately, if you guys remember that little clip of him saying you never know who's watching Unfortunately for him. It was me Oh my goodness Mahler's autism has taken him to new heights Oh, yeah That's Mahler's obvious flaw Is it I'd be interested in debating Mahler on efab if you're able to I don't know Maybe what would you say partly fighting back saying god? Yes, please. This is the only yeah The only thing having an editor would be good for is there's too many bits in this stream that I want to put in the video I'm but I would have to go through the entire stream and also like say all the things I want to say outside of that It's just too hard to make that one video So obviously this guy doesn't have very strong principles or is a liar as are many people on youtube I went through all your fucking streams Apparently, you know that takes too much work This people is supposed People with integrity that you can always trust if the game is good my fan of Mahler I'm a neutral of Mahler He sounds neutral about all of us really yeah Very neutral. Yeah, it sounds so yeah, I don't really watch this stuff anymore I've he just I see muller in the recommended Well, you know this is a coincidence story about it He likes he likes to play he likes to play our podcast in the background so that he doesn't feel alone There you go. I feel like most of his content. Fuck it. We could even just check Most of his content is Like crapping on things we already know are bad All right, let's see how that phase like yeah multiverse of man is sucked. We all know that I mean, uh Don't even know what gdelb is No, I had that going for longer than I I'm pretty sure I put out the face gadelb five years ago So I am but I also like the venera. We also didn't even know what it's about But he's like yeah, just crap it on things. I'm guessing that's something he introduced in the last couple of years No, a critique of force awakens part four What the fuck Wait a minute force awakens. That was the first of the new ones. He's still working on that It takes forever and it's about writing Yeah, just about to you and clearly people are very interested in it. There's a lot to discuss Black widow, we all know that was bad The father father. I don't know what that is I believe you Dude, I like how just like see this is something I can relate to just like my channel. He praises something I thought that's not what you did. I thought he said that's not what you did Well, he did yeah, he said I don't do that and then showed that I did do that and said he relates to it It's kind of weird 170,000 at least which might sound like a lot, but then you're like, oh, this is 2 million This is a million. This is 1.5 million This has 6 million Man, he makes no It's not just the There's that that five five hour 50 minute long What's your hour to like hour of content to month ratio? It must be pretty decent Um considering the hyper level of editing and I mean fringy is here and knows the pain. He worked on that video With me. Absolutely. It wasn't tough to me It's like, I don't know what else to say. He has no idea what kind of work goes into these He's just assuming there isn't any and then it's so funny to have said all of this after saying it's too much work To go through my own streams. I went through your streams The dude like after saying what you played the game like how you played it Well, yeah, you can do that But and then also remembering his comments on like his own work ethic for his own video It's actually unfucking believable to be told by this this person that I don't do any work What do you like proudly announces? Yeah, this guy who takes pride in his not doing work. Exactly insane Oh, this is two million This is a million. This is 1.5 million This has six million from two years ago. Man. He makes no content anymore. I fucking knew it He just shows up on podcast and collects money Big fucking surprise One of them is not connected to a Million from two years ago. Man. He makes no content anymore. I fucking knew it. He just shows up on podcast and collects money Yep, that's it. That's all it is It's so shit for any like I think the most unforgivable thing to say about you is that you're lazy Yeah, I think you can tell from all his upload schedule that he's definitely an algorithm chaser. Oh, yeah The algorithm loves five hour long videos every few fucking months On topic That was uh several months after doc stranger come out. It wasn't even like there was a few months later. Yeah Yeah, well, as you would know because it takes that long to fucking make Hey, um, yeah, I what do you do with this? Um, as you can see from people who watch efab You think I just show up and talk and that's it From this fucking video you've seen that it from the the hot d prep The no prep went into this the ragnarok prep None of it takes any time or effort. I'm just grifting Grifting on them podcasts just grifting and he has a bunch of dicks But I don't hate him. I'm just this is a fact. It's I'm just pointing out facts I'm but I would have to go through the entire stream and also like say all the things I want to say outside of that. It's just too hard to make that one video Man, he makes no content anymore. I fucking knew it. They were talking about me in the mall or subreddit Imagine being so obsessive. I literally didn't mention him by name in the video, but these these These pathetic fuckers Dig and dig and dig like, oh my god. They they insulted my favorite E-Sleb But I literally had the courtesy to not bring him up by name Moller, Moller, Moller, Moller, Moller, Moller, Moller, Moller, Moller, Moller, Moller, Moller, Moller, Moller, Moller, Moller, Moller, Smaller smaller smaller smaller smaller smaller king of efap said it's great guys One of the many reasons I decided to watch his dreams was I was told by someone saying you know He's thrown some shade at you on stream. I was like, okay I was expecting him to just say like really surprised you would like this game, but it's so shit that sort of stuff I never expected it was all of this plus the old like oh I get banned from efap if I came on because you see Rags has a character flaw that I could you know make fun of in the form of a slayer get banned like Man, you're great. You're a great guy. Pretty cool boy. Very cool. I don't know how to say to themselves This is a 10 out of 10. I have to imagine those type of people just don't play games Which imagine having the audacity to say something's a 10 out of 10 when you've only played like 50 games in your life or Something like that, you know, I mean Yeah, 50s a lot of good amount Yeah, I'm playing 50 games Especially if you're really into them and you play them to completion and you really spend the time to learn the mechanics and stuff 50 games is a lot you could learn a lot from not necessarily that many games This will not to mention it can be 10 out of 10 for their experience They can be like I fucking adored it was a 10 out of 10. Yeah, by the way That's how I feel about soma whether or not I think it's a 10 out of 10 like Mechanically or objectively for lack of a better tomb. That's what I would go with I would say is like it's it's 11 out of 10 almost So that's why I'd always be okay with it. However, I never said Anything about Ragnarok being a 10 out of 10. I never have but the thing the reason why I know that is It'd be difficult for me to say that when I don't believe that I highlighted many flaws I think with the story and the gameplay across the streams and in our coverage as for how much I enjoyed it And happily say 11 out of 10 sure, but like mm-hmm very very different marker. I enjoyed Batman and Robin at almost 10 out of 10 Absolutely, that's 10 out of 10 for enjoyment. I love that movies. That's fire. Just yeah Man, this doesn't it just doesn't make sense. How is this 10? Like I don't even have to tear apart aspects I just need to ask why people would say this is a masterpiece, right? Well, it doesn't have to be objectively 10 out of 10 I you couldn't Objective and game criticism do don't go together. They just don't why not It's weird to hear that after all the references about how people are wrong for saying 10 out of 10 when you're saying there's no way So like, you know can't be objective about it Then how can anyone be more or less accurate if they say something is 10 out of 10? Exactly, you have room to say it's not a 10 out of 10 kind of weird there's a The Mollerites I just call them the Mollerites, whatever the e-fap people those type of people don't they talk about movies and TV not video games because fun is subjective and Video games are extremely subjective like you can't really argue like what one person likes someone else is gonna hate Well, all right then fuck it My head is actually exploding when I listen so the reason Moller and the the e-fap people talk about movies and TV shows not games Because you can't be objective about games because games are really about having fun Yep, that's all games come down to at the end of the day. You can't spot anything wrong with that The objective elements of games can severely add to or take away you from its fun things like as simple as just game performance input lag Like those things are objective. They can be measured I don't understand Bugs like what why would you there's more things? I believe to break down objectively about games than there are movies and TV shows Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's definitely Rock solid by way of descriptions of whether something is functional or dysfunctional like a glitch You know like if like you're just running along and you fall through the ground Be really hard to argue that is good the subjective argument people will make for that thing is yeah Well, I find those glitches really funny and entertaining and that's kind of one. Well, sure, but like that would be that's but That's indicative of kind of the nature of it, right? You're appealing to like how you felt about it personally Big old conversation about those definitions I'm just highlighting that he's drawn the difference between movies TV shows versus games as one of them being games is all about fun You can't yeah, because I guess movies aren't about fun sometimes Or shows that's why we talk about movies because they're not about fun right There's not painful then game of the year being a game That's just inferior to another game That's ten years old and then people pretending like that's not true Just because they like to hit circle a lot of times these enemies are shitty as fuck these enemies are just The they're objectively poorly designed Every time like clockwork they always say you can't be objective You can't be objective and then they do it. It gets better than that There's no quick way to get rid of them really objective and game criticism do don't go together They just don't they're objectively poorly designed if you've played nearly as many games as I have this just too many fucking flaws way too many flaws and Again, we're gonna get into like the subjectivity versus objectivity argument, but I don't really care what people think like I care What I think of Jack that much was very much made clear by our yeah That one I'm behind that yeah, but yeah, you cut you realize what happened in his brain, right? He's like I know that this game is not good or at least flawed and he's thinking to himself like well Someone else could just say it isn't he's like, okay, so the objective subject. Okay. Okay, but but I I only care about what I have to say Like oh that doesn't really respond to anything, but okay. Okay. That's a good response man. You nailed it The criticism do you did a video called responding to Sony fanboys? So you care It's and it's okay to care. I like we it's okay to care I know a lot of really super cool youtubers want to be aloof and ooh look at me I'm Marlon Brando and I'm a biker and I'm so cool. I don't care. I'm a rebel without a car No, it it's fine to care about things. In fact, you should it's no mark of shame to say that you give a shit about things But rags my fragile sense of self-worth rest upon my ability to say I don't care lol because I'm above and beyond all of this stuff I'm cool Yeah, the all well George Orwell, he didn't give a fuck about nothing man I buy his merchandise Just don't don't even give him that don't even give him the teach No, they just say they have shit taste that's what I always do anyone who says this is bad then you You're dead to me actually dead Isn't shelling for a brand? Game criticism do don't go together. They just don't I just want to know how many morons like Would still trust the youtubers who gave us ten out of ten just back. Oh, well, it's just their opinion It was totally their opinion. It was Ten Finally it's it's yeah, it's really not that difficult to imagine why someone would call this a ten out of ten. Yeah Outs only not sell outs at all. You have to keep in mind. I thought Raid Shadow Legends was one of the less bad ones That's why I took that one on top of them pain So He took a sponsorship with Raid Shadow Legends a video game and would have promoted it as a good video game That you should all buy And he didn't know but the money you is a literal shill That's what it is So in you shilled for the poster child of shill. Yeah, you don't want to shill for fucking Raid Shadow Legends, man Yeah, come on guys Yeah, man like modern gaming so lame anyway, have you heard about one of the most ambitious No, I haven't You shill for Raid Shadow Legends You are going against what you say if you want the if you want the gaming industry to be healthy and Successful and flourish and you stand up for the gamers and you only want to promote good stuff and then you promote Raid Shadow Legends You've sold out you shilled and that whatever they offered you that's your price for integrity That that's it. It's as simple as that Well, how's that sponsorship going? We don't do sponsorships. We don't do sponsorships Besides you're allowed to do sponsorships But don't then say you should never sell out and never do shilling and never and then gun for one of the worst video games Like they're the most predatory form of video game or one of and you're like I'm a video game man who would never leave people down the bad path of video games This is the most this is the same problem people took with skill up, right? Didn't he promote Raid Shadow Legends? They're like, what the fuck you doing? You can't do that when your channel is based on like Gaming for the consumer Mm-hmm, whatever. It's it's yeah If you yeah, you can't talk about how much you care about games and the the industry and all that stuff And then promote Raid Shadow Legends It makes you it makes you a shill in a sellout and that's a stain on your reputation Like listen to the wording of this is the reason I put these clips to sell trust the youtubers You gave us ten out ten just back. Oh, well, it's just their opinion. It was totally their opinion They weren't they aren't sellouts Only not sellouts at all. You have to keep in mind. I thought Raid Shadow Legends was one of the less bad ones That's why I took that one on top of them paying a lot only not sellouts at all and literally selling out Like there is some cope if you want to try to argue. Oh, it's not the same because Sponsorships aren't reviews Yeah, but who's being like paid to review God of War Ragnarok and paid to give it a positive review Well, maybe people are familiar with the language people use for describing Raid Shadow Legends He will he will have described it The reason why they pay you to talk about Raid Shadow Legends is because you're gonna talk about it positively And it's gonna lead to people who watch that video trying the game and it's gonna lead to some of those people who try The game getting immersed in the microtransactions. That's the whole point. They're doing it because I think it will make the money Because it does make the money Lee does you want to hear and try and cope about? Oh, well, well everyone knows that games bad Everyone looks the next video. He told his view as he doesn't actually think Raid Shadow Legends is a good game Oh my fucking god Okay It's fine. I'm not a liar. I was lying all along. Oh my god You fucking collect Flex the money lets anybody suffer who ends up believing him and then he's like by the way, I was just I don't think it's good I got the money now. It's honest. Let's be honest It's it's unethical to lie to Raid Shadow Legends If they give you money to do something and you lie to them and go against it One of the most straightforward things ever if you're about integrity and you're about Customers getting the good games vis-a-vis the bad ones. Don't take a Raid Shadow Legends Legends fucking sponsorship real simple You should know there. I don't think there's any reasonable price that a game Developer would pay me to give a good review for their game What I just don't think that if you've literally promoted Raid Shadow Legends for money for money whatever they gave you That's at least a price and looks that I haven't checked this but apparently you then went on to say by the way It's not a good game guys. It's not a good game of the fucking future video. Oh my god The slime the absolute slime He feels like shit about that he's like, yeah, I really should have taken that Raid Shadow Legends money Again late now that's the thing is is integrity is the only thing that can't be taken for me has to give it away and he did You have to keep in mind. I thought Raid Shadow Legends was one of the less bad ones That's why I took that one on top of that. He couldn't find one That's why I took that one on top of them paying a lot game Like the world is full of products and services that are great and good and will bring a lot of you know Help to a lot of people whether it's a website builder or it's alright or just all kinds of different products that there that exist out There and you could have done a sponsorship for any of them and nobody would have said anything against you But you chose one you chose the worst one you chose Raid Shadow Legends. Yep Raid is just a rogue game. Go with fucking Dollar Shave Club. Damn it. Yeah Do like Manscaped or Dollar Shave Club or fuck a VPN or something They don't pay as much. Well, that's what he said Raid paid a lot. Yeah, you had a number God the socks ten out ten I Someone I you know if it never mind. I'm so I can't do it. I'm already probably blacklisted But you know if anyone wanted to take initiative out of my audience and go and find the people who gave us ten out ten and Just you know, give them give them a little hello for me. I think Wow, you're really cool Dude, what the fuck is you won't you're not even doing it yourself. You fucking coward you little bitch He wants his audience to go out and find people who say the game's a ten out of ten and give him a little Let's say hello. I don't even know what he's insinuating that. I actually don't even know I'm not 100% clear on it. It's not good though. He said he couldn't say it for risk of being like banned Just saying like he wants people to try and tell them they're wrong. I guess so it means that much to him, man Okay, I guess that's Cree that's awfully petty, but okay That was a term like honeymoon phase something like that Whenever that starts to wear off people are gonna see the flaws now. They're obvious to me someone who is Played just absolute shit ton of video games To these overly excited fanboys eventually they'll acknowledge its obvious flaws Oh, man, you're one of the few trust your viewers left like g-man lives, and I'm like G-man lives thinks every game is good like a good luck Nobody in the world like that you have anything positive to say like about them You have to realize what's happening here Okay, so what says well you and g-man lives are the only ones to trust and then his response isn't dude There are plenty of people you can trust his response is you can't trust g-man lives You see here's thing if if you are this level of insecure and you have his personality What you're doing is you are constantly comparing yourself to everybody else that has mentioned or that is around you So that if someone said hey, you're really great like this person and this other person and your instinct is actually those other people aren't You know, it's indicative of his kind of personality. He's constantly comparing himself to other people Probably the reason why he mentions you Mahler so much because in a way he sees you as related He needs a quote that he needs new quotes mark Twain's Comparison is the death of joy. You got to get that one on your shirt and every time Someone's like hey, you know what man? You're pretty good and this other guy He can look down at that shirt and go. Hmm. Maybe I should like not shit on them, too Maybe I could thank them for the compliment. They paid to me Yeah, he's a reviewer that does like for every new game that comes out which he reviews He does like five shooters from 20 years ago Like that he's just like I felt like playing this one So now I'm making a video on it the guy is like not at all an algorithm chaser He's like he's a pretty solid reviewer. I'd say like I don't I don't think that's saying like yeah Well g-man likes every game. It's like he actively seeks out making videos on games He likes that are like, you know a little bit more off the beaten path G-man like it's it's pretty rare. You have to keep in mind. I thought Raid Shadow Legends was one of the less bad ones That's why I took that one on top of them paying a lot It's so weird because if someone said why did you do that that relic watch or the the teiroc is teiroc watch? Sponsorship years and years ago was like because I made them send me a watch and it was really nice watch And I still fucking wear it to this day. I was like, yeah, I'll promote this watch. This is this is a nice brand I like this watch. I wouldn't say well It's one of the the less bad ones, but they paid me a lot So they paid me a lot some of the maybe people aren't grasping right? He knows it's bad He knows what he's doing he said he described it as one of the less bad ones He's doing it because they paid him enough that is selling out And he keeps accusing other people of selling out. It's really fucking weird Trolled opposition stuff also, please never become like drinker or moist critical Just don't be a sell-out. That's why I took that one on top of them paying a lot People aren't being more critical lots of policy because everyone is a sell-out and I mean basically everyone. That's why Everybody Actually did you actually sold out fucking unreal. It's a fucking grifter. Everybody Low effort content in order to farm the algorithm and any law and his opinions because they're all fucking toxic and stupid So you have to like account for the fact that normal people are going to see his videos He has to remove all of the slime. Well, he doesn't even remove all the slimes reduces it Like okay retard I don't care if you don't care you can't just ignore all the problems That's the argument. I always make for video games There's no thing is the water game, but If the flaws really ruin the enjoyment, which they absolutely do and you're just lying to yourself Objective and game criticism do don't go together. They just don't I'm the idiot me I'm the guy who doesn't understand video games. He doesn't understand narratives Look at the recommended Twitter's critical and in some ordinary gamers It's like that's like that might as well be a like a trifecta of like normie shit. Oh Everybody's nobody is as cool as you Man collab probably never because at some point he became a leftist cock I don't know when that was because I seem to recall him making a Anita Sarkeesian video I feel like it if it ever comes to that if see always have your receipts, right? And always know your own body of work, right? Yeah Yeah, don't contradict yourself like no, you know the overwork The people come in. It's like you just said as part of your body of work. You should probably remember it Yeah, I shouldn't remember that act man the leftist cuck Use anybody who comes after me is gonna be someone I probably started shit with and the only people I start shit with or people I know Yeah, yeah, well, that's not true. He said he had watched my stuff for years yet He made so many confident claims of it all of my opinions and perspectives and orders and standards and whether or not I'm a grifter The state of e-fap so weird man Opinions Scrolling through your channel for 30 seconds he came to the conclusion that you're lazy You don't need to make videos anymore because now you make money off of streaming like after what 30 seconds I'm just scrolling through. I know his shit. I've seen over half his videos at least I saw that video. I Don't care what he says. He's gonna be like, oh, I've changed Yeah, that really that only works when a leftist says it. Have you noticed that act man? Then act man says he changed it. Have you noticed it? I thought you man was No, it is definitely not shit. He's Australian Pergill drink Fringy I've always told you Always say Fringy. Yeah, he he's pretty cool. But if only he'd move out of Australia, so he could be a Chad He's still Australian at that point. Oh, yeah, you can take the you can take the bird out of Australia But you can't take the Australia out of the bird. It's just funny because there are many famous Like In it either when Like the legendary Chad Successful and a lot of his videos are half-assed. He's almost drink. Oh, not like yours So, I mean my videos are half-assed, too What is he about to say Extremely successful and a lot of his videos are half-assed So, I mean my videos are half-assed, too, but like some of his shit is just like completely pointless. I Just think it's like his accent to be honest. I I don't think he's bad at all like I think his channel is fine Again, he's a moral right But there is a ball of right apparently That's a smaller right on it. Just yeah, I'd rather than public stop making more right I Thought I already explained my problem with drinker. I just think a lot of his content is pretty low effort I don't think he's that funny. I think kids just really like the the fake drunk Scottish accent I Don't know wait. He's actually Scottish, isn't he? How dare you say that a Scotsman is faking being drunk Yeah, I'm assuming he's referred to the drunk being fake, which you know, it's probably true Every time he records, I don't Yeah, yeah, I agree. I keep calling him mauler rights. I Definitely want to make clear mauler. I obviously didn't invent film or TV or video game criticism Thanks We would hate to steal the credit for that. Yes It's just kind of all of it's like kind of a similar ish style, you know, it's fun like effort or Visuals that are relevant or actually paying attention to the thing you do. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, what part? It's like nobody tries to copy off of red letter media, which you know, it's funny I get accused of that all the time The left side of things but they'll be like you fucking you just don't want to be plinket like okay Many ways is like at least it's higher quality film criticism I kind of got sick of their stuff eventually too, but I stopped her. Yeah Everybody sucks. He's the only one all right, but red letter is the only one at least you know You're getting a little bit higher budget content. You know, I just find it I'm blown away. They're in the film community. There's a fuck ton of people who are against wokeness in movies and shit I mean like like I brought up, you know Critical drinker, you know, he's like one of the most popular film critics. I'm not really upset She doesn't know because you wish that you were more but in video games He compares himself to everyone else He's upset. What other people have success. He's frustrated that none of these big of YouTube is a shit non-ragner off How woke it is critical drinker, you know, he's like one of the most popular Film critics. He's very anti-woke, right? But in video games, there are no anti-woke people the name a single like actual anti-woke Gaming critic why are people protecting game criticism? Are they being paid off? I mean Game reviewers who mention it or call it out with stuff especially with when stuff like Saints Row comes out things of that nature Yeah, yeah Yeah, well, so it's impossible to consider the fact that people don't think Ragnarok's drama Like a gender-driven awoke. Yeah, possibly fathom that it's impossible because it's disgustingly woke Well, that's the difference between it and drama and his other stuff because it's written very very well Start check out the under the Mayo. I hate under the Mayo though. Of course Why why I don't know who he is Or 2018 lots of his points still stands should help your video on this game under the Mayo is the doom eternal fan boy I I don't like him. I wish I could make a super Like this because then I Reads books for his videos like he reads He's better than Deb to all of these people There's he spends a not insignificant amount of time talking about how much better he is than other 80% of the time making the video like scripting not that I write scripts, but that's obviously I'd be fucking embarrassed for you if I came from a script what we just if you yeah If you wrote that down and it passed through the brain And then you had to say it out loud and it still passed the test and made it into the product That's that's bad because at least you don't have the the excuse anymore of saying oh It's just stream of consciousness whatever I felt you know an honest guy like me, you know sometimes it just yeah It's got to come out can't stop myself Griffin gaming is a noise. We're yeah, he he's a perfect example of how to make it on YouTube with like shit quality Content, I mean he is basically just a gaming clone of leafy. So you just react to everything that's happening I mean the dude mother fucking defended cod vanguard. I can't believe I have to like take active Defense in there probably well, but like I think the more important thys like values like was character based on which things they liked and disliked Defends vanguard Like it's a shit game. Everyone knew it was a shit game and Griffin game. He's like I don't You know how much I'm gonna laugh you know how much I'm gonna fucking laugh if these fit I almost said it if these bundles of sticks Don't want to dress my existence because they think it'll make me more popular. You know how sad that is You know, I don't think there's any hope for you getting more popular after people see Who you are like it's it's not exactly very enticing to say the least but hey, you know YouTube has had the horrible people get successful. So whatever good luck I suppose But yeah, really great start to that sentence too Hey, yeah, I'm really sad that is That that is beyond pathetic. Why am I not surprised under the mayo release review for god of oregano rock? It's pretty long but some parts are worth watching Stop trying to chill him. He's shit on me for my doom eternal video. How do you guys forget this? Yeah, remember what team you're on remember what side you're on. Yeah If there's one thing mayo can actually talk about intelligently, it's doom eternal Yeah, like I was going to say I was like if there's one thing that mayo And trust me there is one thing. Yeah Seriously is that's probably the it's the thing you can criticize me also like You know, like you guys might be familiar but it's probably people in channel as well Like this panel called folding ideas run by dan ulson. I think he kind of hates me At least that's the last he said of me Did not fucking like it was after the dark souls till tlj stuff Uh really not a fan. Wish is I would stop talking about medics. I don't know what I'm talking about that sort of stuff Same time. He made a flat earth video. He's made one about uh, he's made lots basically I've recommended them several times and I still do to this day. He makes lots of really good videos Yeah, he really doesn't like me. That's fine Because how good your content is of what you feel about me as a person. They're two different things All right Yeah, we want to go tribal mode with I think he literally called it the worst do eternal review on youtube or something Would it be surprised if it was? Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised make awful reviews Griffin seems to have had quite the character arc. He definitely seems to be a bit different Than I remember but I don't know if he at least likes my shit, whatever. I don't really care You see how he was ripping into him and then he finds out that he he kind of likes the stuff He's like, oh, okay, maybe he is okay then Oh Nice He ain't gonna be watching us no more Nope, I don't have to be handsome. I love your views by man, but your woke argument is a bit old I don't think you do love my reviews, son Oh They must be very central to your reviews. They're like that's like honestly all I got. Did you see the music from the game matches? Yeah That happens to any of my videos if any of my videos get into the algorithm It's always normies who hate any criticism. I I wish people brought back disliking videos over like Like principles instead of like stupid fanboyism people actually dislike the video that you just disagree with like the premise or How does his tongue not like burn when he says they were principles The polls instead of like stupid fanboyism people actually dislike the video that you just disagree with like the premise or Like I feel like dislikes are used for all the wrong reasons. It's just like triggered children Anyone asking about me balding is getting timed out Like this that's final warning. It's just like triggered children. Yeah, that is a thousand likes Well, you guys do your job dislike bomb the video. I don't Remember this That was zero got coffee, right? And apparently that that guy got plenty more shit from Of course he did he fucking commanded his audience to go after him And then he said ever maybe maybe I shouldn't say that because I can get in trouble not because that's fucking unethical But you know what to do wink wink. You don't ever Want to go this route. Just never. No, he's just foul. What are you doing? That's just no this uh-uh Everyone of you come here do No, no, I might get in trouble from youtube. Uh, you you do. Yeah, my you might get in trouble Layton to us violation. It's kind of a foul thing to do It's disgusting. You're disgusting man being go fuck yourself. Yeah, I'll take a shower. Yes Instead of it being like, oh, I'm an adult and the premise of this video is stupid or something like like I disliked act man's latest video because I thought it was completely pointless and Uh, I completely disagree with the stupid statement. He said about gaming is better than ever, which is just such a There's no I think I would agree with that There are there are definitely arguments you can make for that one of the obvious ones is we have access to all of games and But like almost primary formats. It's amazing. Yep But yeah, that's one argument you can make moving the context from that statement But in context is still stupid So regardless, okay, there is no context where you can say that and be correct There is a context we can say Oh, yeah, 30 years of games on a steam deck that I can carry in my backpack. Like that's pretty crazy Yep, not both side two was so woke see Like god damn the woke people complaining about wokeness is so inconsistent the amount of I know that people I had to unsubscribe from oh no over the years They didn't complain about well subscribed to about 40 channels right now And I think over the course of you know My account is what 14 years old I probably subscribed to like 400 channels in that time 400 down to 40 because people don't complain about wokeness enough Quite the decimation I reviewed spider-man miles moralists for geeks and gamers and had a lot of Comments saying hey, why didn't you talk about the black lives matter mural that was in the game? It was so woke it ruined it. I'm just like I didn't see it I was like, I don't know I was swinging around new york city. I really wasn't looking at the mural It's a mural in a video game that it ruined it ruined it It's also winter like it's snowy. I don't know so I'm moving really fast Like what what is what is it being winter and snowy have to do with the mural on a one? I don't understand these The the buildings themselves are a little bit more obscured than they were in the base game where it's summer Maybe it's like this frost on them or something because they're because yeah How though how so surely you'd be able to see more because there's no leaves on the trees to block the view, right? Oh, you're in new york city. So the trees aren't uh aren't stopping much But things like it's snowing will like make it more difficult to see a mural on the wall I mean, it's just heavy snow. Maybe you're not looking at the wall like it's like I guess if it piles up high enough it might It means like regularly snowing it'll Oh, like you're looking through the snow like it's currently snowing in the video game in this context too Like i'm doing shit that doesn't involve Looking for murals I just didn't I just didn't see the connection between the the snow and the wall mural That has been nine and a half hours I'm guessing it just didn't register for me in my playthrough at all So I'm just like, I don't know like if it didn't is because the whiteness is covering up the blm mural Oh, is that what you're gonna also expect from so many? No, I barely even get ahead of the algorithm lately. So who knows maybe they're finally starting to suppress me I saw that declining this like dislike ratio It's every time it's just Because it's not like millennials give a fuck. Was it core cori balrog that did god of war two and three though I don't think that's true Maybe it is but no two I find that hard to believe get educated mother fucker. I've tend to sadistic dark moments in games I'd rather just do like edgy contrarian shit I mean awesome you you have the freedom to do that. I get out of my space Mother wanted me to you know Pass out candy to kids. I didn't want to do it, but then she kind of forced me to do it and We can get across I don't know I was cringe. Uh, we forced to do something. I assume he's talking about trick or treaters I don't I don't know. I just thought this become it was fucking bizarre He's like I didn't want to pass out candy on halloween, but my mom forced me to do it And it's cringe. Yeah, it's not it's not cringe to hand out candy to trick or treaters What a weird thing to say I didn't want to do it, but then she kind of forced me to do it And we can get across I don't know it's cringe. Uh, you forced to do something by your mommy at age 27. Yep That's what happens when you live with your mommy. They're Oh, no, don't say that out loud No, you want to hide that from the internet? I mean, hopefully he's paying rent so that you can have the ability to say like I don't want to do the thing that you're trying to force me to do. However, Kind of no candy. Maybe I mean, come on, man. You could be like slightly social and personable by handing out candy to trick or treaters that one night of the year Where that's a special thing that people do and maybe if maybe if you're 27 and you're living with mommy You could you could maybe help her out, you know as a sort of thanks mom for letting me a 27 year old who You know who lives here You know, thanks for letting me be able to do that. I'll help you out and do things Especially if it's a you know, once a year thing that requires very little effort whatsoever I will bear the cringe because I appreciate it so much Then you think that delete comments. They don't like Wait, sorry. Let's go to full contact your mommy at age 27. Yep That's what happens when you live with your mommy There are more youtubers than you think that delete comments. They don't like and some of them have admitted to it It's like what the hell is wrong with you Like I'm fucking pathetic That people got anyone asking about me balding is getting timed out That's final warning I don't know why you would say like anybody who deletes comments is pathetic And I feel like I'm gonna time you out if you call it all by balding this was like why You're setting yourself up bad. How did we go from a greek tragedy? Which yeah, I had a lot of juvenile moments It was definitely intended for edgy teenage boys to a degree But that's not to say the original games had no depth. There's a video called god war was always deep you cower Um, I I just consider this like nonsense arguing on both sides It's like it's not like there was nothing in the original trilogy, but it's obvious that they've taken him way further as a character Yeah I don't see why there has to be constant bickering over like the straw man version of both sides Like you're saying he would he had no development at all in the og and then the other side is like You're saying that uh, he had all the development of the og And just like why can't you guys we we all know They focused heavily on story now Uh, the mechanics is still present, but all right, we'll be fine birds great title by the way by endless jest that covers this subject Pretty extensively, so i'll just direct you to that video instead of extending this one even further To now this infantile pseudo mature Marvel movie for man children people who refuse To actually grow up and have real responsibilities that means getting a wife and having children, right? Being an anti-natalist does not make you mature. What the fuck is happening now I don't want what I didn't sign up for this I don't even know what that is. Whoa It's uh, it's basically the view that pro creations bad. You shouldn't make children. What the fuck does that have to do with god? Okay This is in the main video he released It just makes you a depressed nihilist like everyone else and this is not me acting holier than thou I have never pretended to be mature. I know what I like. I like the super edgy shit I like darksiders. I like the original god of war games. I even like fucking shadow the hedgehog It's a bad game, but I like how over the top it is given. It's a fucking cartoon character with guns Did he cock the oh, yeah, it all makes sense It's so well written in terms of just that's exactly what I would expect you to say. Yeah, I said live with everything I don't know let's do the edgy It's you people who are pretending that this is some super deep shit that have the issue pretty the last Was one actually was somewhat deep to a degree. It was a very well told If we're gonna define deep as just being multi-dimensional across many connections many details that all links back to other points in the writing Loads of subtext. Yeah, ragnaroll qualifies. I don't want to tell you Absolutely story even though it was a story. We'd already heard dozens of times by now, right? Oh Joel Miss you, buddy Yeah, right. This is not well handled in the least the writing team is highly incompetent In no small part because anthony birch wrote for it A man who is a literal kamma mia and whose wife divorced him and took his wee you So he So I didn't know you had to I didn't know you had to censor memes my guy Um, none of that has to do with anything actually This person was on the writing team therefore. It's terrible A person who had his wee you take it away was on the writing team. How could the ride be good? And he even mentioned that he's like well It seems like there was a lot of the interstitial things written by other people than the main writers It's like well, lots of writers for this and then lots of like writers planning Overall and then planners for that and writing directly. This was a huge project that they took lots of care with And I don't know that a guy a guy's wife cheating on him and divorcing him and then taking his video game console Is a reason to be like, yeah, well, why would I read anything he wrote? I might just bad luck That's fine And he's done plenty of other pathetic things in his time But if you let an actual come a mea write for god of war What the fuck is wrong with you sony? Like assuming that he was a cuck weird word to censor of all things But assuming he was like they could still write a really good story. It doesn't matter It's literally just trying for I don't think it doesn't mean anything Not banned from writing There you go. I can write video games and apparently they could write very good ones Like That's not what a cuck is. I don't know where he's getting it from. I don't I don't but like the ultimate point of a cuck taught right well Dead to me. I've already said that multiple times, but they are so dead to me at this point, dude I'm only playing these games to review them. That's it. Certainly not for my own enjoyment Now all of that being said is this a bad game? No, it's not and can you believe it? After all we've been through yeah Yeah, he's he's really rounding off all of his points Only because the gameplay is good. The combat designers did their job In fact, they're the only people on this team worth their salt. I wouldn't you guess that this don't you've said I wouldn't this ending just doesn't even it's like whatever Mr. Fire fun at least for the 20 of the time that you're actually fighting things The other 80% was either incredibly boring. I thought it was 70 30 whatever as if he's gonna why should we have to remember? He doesn't care To both my intelligence and my masculinity and I think that was the intention I've said it once and I'll say it again games are not made for gamers anymore And they're slowly trying to not make them for men anymore Play video games Haven't you noticed that men don't play video games anymore? I'm doing it anymore. It's a way too late. Well, these games look a fucking indie sphere if you really No, they don't make games for men anymore games for men True. Hollow Knight is a very feminized game. Whatever the fuck that means Either not catering to men's tastes. They're trying to make games Quote unquote for everyone. There is no such thing. You cannot make a good game. That also clearly isn't for everyone This game has like good writing and characters and themes and everything. So it's clearly not for you Of course, they haven't made it as it like by the way You know like this sentiment when you make something for everyone you make it for nobody Like the idea that nobody's gonna love it and stuff It's like as much as I appreciate it You need to contextualize it a little bit better because like what if I counted with I don't know chess seems to be pretty well liked Seems to be made for everybody. Is that what he made for like smart people or something like why are we He's clearly heard this and he's just throwing it in There's there's no context for this that he thinks is satisfying as we went over he barely understood the mechanics or the story so Just saying shit Can't you can make a mediocre game that does that and many exist But a good game caters to a specific audience and unfortunately They do not want the god of war audience Fuck this game and fuck all the sony fan boys who think it's a masterpiece that word has now lost What about the people who think it's you know a masterpiece who aren't sony fans because I haven't even played it And I think of a story in characters like I I'd put it up there. It's definitely You know, it definitely scratches at that level I feel but I got some more interesting question would be What about the people who just thought it was pretty good? Yeah They thought it was pretty good Try and use this video as a jumping off point and say that you don't have to make games for a specific audience Rather games are made to present a specific experience There's a distinction there. They're not made for a specific kind of person They're made to do a specific kind of thing whether or not that will be interesting to people Until of course you get to the triple a sphere where you know games do have to appeal to a wider audience Pay it the elden ring is probably game of the year this year despite having one of the most critical videos of it I think it's considerably better than this game. That's about it. I'll see you next time. Yeah, like any games So that's the end of his main video. Now we got to see the rest of his uh, no response video All right, this dude didn't like that was made for games before he played it. Oh, I didn't like it before I've laid it Yeah, I get the vibe I get a vibe I mean like right in the beginning you're like, oh, this dialogue doesn't matter. This is so boring Well, I'm trying to emotionally manipulate me with Fenrir Let's just say I got some other references with looking at it in terms of did he hate it going in. That's the ultimate cope Oh boy, we could get a recap because you know the game was so good that we forgot the entire story You literally did It was first off you did. Yeah, we forgot the story Yeah, and other things also Let's be fair. It was four years ago that it came out. So Yeah, it's probably good to refresh people on something that they played four years ago. That's why we replayed it Recaps a long while off sad kratos. That's what I've always wanted to see sad kratos only when just started the game He's killing his family because at least that's understandable, but What what is he apparently not to you? He's sad about this guy like struggle to imagine the love that someone could have for another human being so I don't know I'm not going to take for granted that you can empathize with any human emotion Well, he's also really thinking about fate his dad like Yeah, big love at his life. Why can't he be sad get over it not based at all? No, I didn't like it before I've laid it. Yeah, that's the ultimate cope Quit talking go for the game You really want to hear all this shitty dialogue? And yeah, as by the way earlier, this is alphime Very early in the game He's already said all the dialogue is shit and not with listening to like sub 10 hours something like that It depends on the player, but of course the idea being that yeah, it's like I didn't go into hate this And it's like, you know even listening to it Dude blow the 70 dollars yourself on the shitty game if you really care about the dialogue I didn't like it before I've laid it. Yeah That's the ultimate cope Sad equal deep according to game journals. Yeah From what I've seen of the leaks and no, I will not say what I've seen for the few people who care here I would guess most people who came here don't give a shit about spoilers. It's still not going to say anything This is the last jedi of god of war from whatever it is if it is as bad as And I'm 90 percent sure that the leaks are correct 90 percent sure it's the last jedi of god of war, but I didn't go in looking to hate it No, mm-hmm. All right, so honesty integrity 90 sure it's this thing before I mean, I mean tech Yeah, I just don't yeah You didn't favor of hated it like by a considerable margin. Yeah That oh and I don't understand what's going on, uh In fact, actually if you're asking to hear the dialogue again, you're part of the problem All this sucks. None of this matters. Have I really not been paying attention that much? That oh and I don't understand what's going on. Oh Yeah, this guy's real based guys his real anti-wook He's literally saying all the things left to say it's a advice. We'll be reading out of their playbook He said he didn't understand what was going on. He said that's a leftist thing He's such a fucking NPC his brain has such a limited range of possible Huge NPCs. He needs to evolve his dialogue. Yeah, he's got very limited responses Even if he does think like oh, you know, they've gone too far. He's clearly center left at at best And once again the most tired leftist argument of all he just hated the game before he even played it My question is why do you keep adding politics to everything? Like how was that leftist? How was anything I said in this entire video? Like leftist at all like we can even just look back to what I said I said I didn't feel like looking at the rest of you review because the review is bad And you probably didn't like the game before you played it. How the fuck is that leftist at how it is How does politics have anything to do with that at all? I didn't say one thing in the video at all that that was political except for the fact that you think the game is Well, that's the only political thing I said like everything I say it just goes through your ear and comes out the other as a leftist Nothing I said was leftist, bro. I just said your review was fucking trash If somebody says a yo mama joke to you, you're gonna think it's fucking leftist everything is I mean god damn it. I I'm actually mad. I knew I would be mad It took me over a week to make my video. I'm glad you responded to it with your half-assed shitty opinions you parasite He's a scum. Yeah, well you guys do your job. Just like bomb the video. I don't give you a job. Just like boss I'm I'm gonna play and stream a whole video game, but I'm not a parasite either But this guy responding to me parasite youtube every one of you come here dislike this video No, no, I might get in trouble from youtube. Uh, you you do what you Okay, I think I'm gonna end the stream now Like I feel like dislikes are used for all the wrong Shame triggered children Or here's an idea. You're a fucking fanboy with your head up your ass You have really shit taste in video games because you haven't played any really good games evidently From 1980 all the way until like 2005 the vast majority of video games had minimal cutscenes All of the ones that had excessive story were notable for that because the vast majority of games Didn't have more than you're you're gonna be struggling with is like in terms of cutscenes has been one of the vehicles that Games tell stories like if you play an adventure game like a point and click adventure game Would you consider? Or yeah, or a j rpg Like are those cutscenes when you know characters are talking and then you you know press a to go through the dialogue or make Choices or rpgs like fallout, you know, like what is uh, what is the nature of describing the way that games convey their stories? It feels like you're examining it through a very Limited lens which is like the sony third person cinematic like action adventure games seemingly like discounting huge swaths of the way that stories were conveyed because I mean games told stories before 2005 and some games The metal gear solid games like I believe one and two were both out. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah metal gear solid one two and I think three were out before 2005 Uh, yeah, I think you're right Wing commander three and four were both space combat games where the narrative elements were FMV sequences which starred mark hamill and the guy who played biff and back to the future And you make dialogue choices Well, and you can you can enter Full game over fail states and depict the wrong the obvious reality we got to deal with is It ain't gonna be you're only allowed x amount of cutscene time The reality is it's about implementation What these cutscenes achieve or what they could have been, you know all all the standard questions about the specific context You can't just go games only ever had x amount of time and so now in the modern era. They've gone too far It's like they even mean you got to be more specific Hour of cutscenes a higher game It's only in the past 10 years the games have had more and more cutscenes Which you would know if you actually played video games 2005 was actually Played video games Shut up But I mean as for that comment, I don't know what to tell you man Like there's a lot of games that are very much gamey games in the traditional sense Don't think you do in these games Means you have no authority to talk about games and you clearly haven't seen many of my videos where I've talked Thank fuck a Yeah about games. I like that are obviously primarily gameplay focused So again, this is an embarrassment You should absolutely feel ashamed to yourself that you shit this video out without thinking about it for more than two Seconds sometimes you wonder if he has to actually talk about himself. You're like, yeah There's that little voice Don't say this thing. It's you. Don't say this thing. That's you But no, you're going to continue to churn out content and slowly accrue more and more subscribers because youtube doesn't care about quality It only cares that you cover trending topics. Like, yeah I'll never change even though I know I get things wrong. I'll never change Which I'll admit is something I've done myself many times over the past three years So what's with the righteous indignation? What's going on? You do all these evil things that are bad. No, I do them too Is it a success for A success derived from doing the type of video that he doesn't want to be doing Like he tried making some trending topic videos and his channel really took off I I don't know anything about his history. I don't want no clue. I mean, I don't know It kind of seems like that's what he's resentful about or at least listening to what he's saying I'm confident that when the halo tv show was coming out that on a few occasions. I got recommendations To like that halo video that he made So I I don't know what he's talking about in terms of like, oh man, I can't get anywhere like I can't get any traction I don't know man. How do you account for the fact that you have an audience? I think the deal was like the halo videos and resident evil videos that started getting recommended were because those tv shows being terrible were trending topics Because he would have made videos at the time that they were coming out, right? Yeah So even I think it's like he's mad about that like he wishes that he could just be making the kind of videos He wants to make but he feels like now. Well, he can do whatever he wants. He can make whatever video he wants Doesn't care about quality But not a single one of these points Refutes any argument I made in the video nobody's ever made a pot There's no not one person who's made any point that you consider to be valid Just like there's like not one youtuber that you could be like, yeah, you know what they're actually pretty good They might even be better than me at a couple of things Even when he's wrong, he's right. You see Well, yeah, he moves goalposts he recontextualizes arguments He'll recontextualize his own arguments on the responses and then you'll go as far as say in the streams Like I'm basically the only person that could be trusted. I have the only trust worthy reviewer Well, he said that on a few occasions. Yeah, it's just You don't think these people exist would you like? No, they do. There he is Argument has been refuted about it being a giant fucking movie game about it being woke as fuck About the combat being too similar to the last one, which I actually pulled my punches on that I didn't make can't pull your punches. You know punches you fucking understand the combo systems You didn't make any arguments either. You just said it was super woke or you said it was you just claimed It was 90 cutscenes or whatever and and that was it. That's all you did You just said things you didn't do any work at all to convince anybody of anything You just made that a big point I did in my original draft But I decided to be nice and mostly stay positive for the combat section about kratos character assassination About atreus being an effeminate cock What? Why does everybody suck? You're a cuck and you're a cuck everybody is a cuck About freya being a mary sue none of these things were feuded These are all the most important criticisms of the game and then there's the lack of gore There's the marvel movie ripoff shit. There's the fact that this game is clearly made for people who don't actually enjoy video games, which is They're like specifically gunning for people who hate video games That'll we'll get a little little hoover them all up Is why you're not even playing the game the majority of the time But if you love movies if you love staring at the fucking screen not touching the controller except when a fake Quicktime event comes up then you'll love this I guess game of the year 2022, right? So I honestly have no idea how to end this video. Uh synthetic man wins commenters lose again I'm the greatest. See you next time guys And so that's the end of that video which remains we've still got stuff left. It's all right This is the clips that I didn't properly get contextualized into like Uh portions of the video I could have but it would have taken way longer So instead we're just gonna watch Pieces of his streams that I thought were of interest in terms of his criticisms of the game's gameplay and the Some of these will surprise you He should understand loving dogs All right, so there's ryan johnson mark number one Oh, look loretta humor. He's turning a page with a pipe If you didn't play the first one don't play this one It's loretta humor to use a pipe Yes Meme Oh look this comment he makes by here by the way after the mamea one This is in response to the idea that there are new players. All right, keep that in mind Loretta humor. He's turning a page with a pipe If you didn't play the first one don't play this one. It's that fucking simple. I hate I used to get mad about this all the time when I was a teenager where people would Play sequels to games without playing the first. It's like, okay Maybe if you're like a kid and your parent buys you the latest one You've managed to actually count to your argument. Congratulations. Yeah You've already created a scenario where that might be consideration and kids Um, I'm not going to say this applies to all of them, but there's going to be a lot who are like Whoa, I have an axe. What can I do with that? And the game is like light attack heavy attack Hold down triangle to charge it up. You can throw it light heavy throw now. You've unlocked skills Look at these. It's your choice. You have money xp You can buy any of these moves read them and then use them and that it's much better as experience for a kid Instead of dropping all the moves on them from the previous game or even a significant selection Whatever they are making games for new players as well as old ones The big old balance you have to do when you make a giant game like this Then I get it but It doesn't make sense otherwise, especially if plot the plot matters, which it absolutely does Okay, I have a serious question. What's the point of Distinguishing between a block breaker and unblockable if he combos after a block breaker with a unblockable tech I'm at right. You can parry the block breaker Yeah, that means you don't lose the chance to block the follow-up. It's bullshit Emotional manipulation Yes manipulative that's what this is So at this point, I don't actually know the difference between a dramatic payoff of any kind unmanipulated manipulations Like I guess it's all manipulation and I guess the right is doing wants you to feel a certain way Um, but like that's the objective when you write any story ever is to facilitate that kind of response in people through his frustration and anger and grief The channel sign into a magical ability to turn into a bear to fight under the bear kills it runs off Kratos manages to get him back to normal and they realize you killed a mother Yep, yeah, there are consequences and it's like credo says there's there's intent made sure but there's consequences And then we have this get reincorporated later after Brock's death as well and they come through the same area And we're not reminded of them Plus all of the other references throughout the story about the nature of like choices and consequences We need like a counter for this shit. That's number two Counter for what? I'm trying to teach you a lesson He's too fat to be intimidating He doesn't sound like he sounds like a Yeah, yeah, you you've never gone outside. Yeah, you talk a mad game. Yeah Imagine him sitting across from Thor saying that I would be shitting my pants Especially with what he's saying you a carbon reasonable person while staring into his soul Just like Yeah, I can Johnsoning You get stiresome after a while just this subvert your expectations instead of like Zeus who was, you know, like a gigachat We have Zeus literally was defeated because he was too afraid and it cost him everything It's like the story Fucking uh That was a bad point to boss Is there anything over here? Okay Why does this exist then just for continuity? I love when games tell me don't go that way Well that used there was a time maybe a brief time or that meant you should go that way because there's secrets Now when they tell you not to go that way Yeah, when yeah, there's loads of secret options in this game. It's filled with all kinds of loot. He even commented on how he likes loot That's where all the gameplay is that you didn't get Yeah, it was fucking now when they tell you not to go that way They really mean it like it's like there's nothing over there. We're just we've just wasted time modeling this area My dad likes loot who doesn't Who so the when you first play 2018 Atreus put off by the idea of picking stuff up off people Chests that don't belong to you because he feels like it's stealing Great, this is like they don't need it. We do so. Yeah, there's this difference of opinion about looting Doesn't like loot. That's not funny. I told him everything What's not funny You waited my son disobey me. No, I I kept an eye on him on your behalf Nothing risky everything very safe Somebody else speak. I love how Kratos is the main Fucking character and he's the butt of the jokes. They're constantly There's not a butt of this joke this joke doesn't have a butt Yeah, the joke isn't even a joke It's just sinjeri's mannerisms and his speed there isn't a butt of the joke There's no there the joke isn't at anybody's expense because like I said, there's not a joke here There's funny mannerisms and speech Because he's like you're the reason my son was put in danger for these past three years technically speaking And then sinjeri's panicking because he's realizing gradually like oh god This man he's gonna kill me and atreus is trying to stand between them That is it's an amusing scenario because we know that truly sinjeri is safe here But at the same time he's terrified We all know how anxious he is She's not like his personality type would be very intimidated by kratos looking at him that way He's like, oh god, how do I do this? Him being like If if if any if there are any butts this joke it would be sinjeri Yes, yeah, this is it just gets disgusting after a while Disgusting yeah, uh, this is What marvel movies have done to Humor I mean just not being allowed to be offensive in any way is kind of Kind of what destroyed humor really You don't necessarily have to be offensive to be funny, but Not being allowed to be offensive Really steers humor in a specific horrific direction And it takes someone truly talented to write something funny that doesn't rely on You know offending something. I'm so tired of the marvel humor. Please make it stop Faster I need to be better than you wonder, huh? If you are not Yeah, but this is the kind of guy who like thinks it's a joke to call people faggots He thinks it's that it's so funny Ha ha like he smarks at his own joke when he calls people bad, right? But I think that beneath it there's like legitimate You know hatred in his heart for it. He's proved as much you may be right about that rags Maybe you're right about that. Um, but check out that we're about to get a montage of his humor, right? He's gonna show us how it's done Oh boy, we learned from the master No, your son is a pussy. He will never be better than you Kratos Oh, that's sad That was really funny, dude Anyway, we're laughing at you not because of you sweeping hams. So thanks to two books. How's dad of war? Um More like soy of war or god of soy Or dad absolutely did it but like unironically and he was proud of himself too Oh, yeah, they keep coming. Check out. Check out this one. This is another good on winter man inventor winter Yeah, she crashed to the ground it was long ago. I killed her Yeah, funny. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna alpha your anus freya. At least I referenced them What man? Oh god, it made it worse What the fuck is this humor, dude? I feel like I need to cleanse my palate by listening to n words screaming conflations or something Because you're a fucking little So the fuck down Look at you, bro, you're nine kills, bro. That is literally Activities, bro. Get your fucking money up you fucking black george floyd welfare collection I'm not even remotely surprised. We're the fucking alpha. Are we gonna get the next step? I will find this man I will this is pretty funny when I was 12. Oh wait, it wasn't funny then either Oh my god, guys, I'm gonna get banned from the game I hope back to man doesn't expose my youtube channel for my racism. Why do these character miles look so awkward? Look at him like I don't know if he just kind of looks autistic to me, but like him staring off to the side and not directly into the camera It's really weird It's weird I don't know if it's because the upgrade or not. It just seems like the blades gets to less damage I guess there's supposed to be aoe or something But I don't like it You heard it here guys you can never atone for your sins God of war You like just can't engage with words So for anybody who doesn't know this side quest is about how mamiya is trying to make up for all his mistakes in spartile time You undo all of the the sort of What they called right like the this spewing Uh, they're like mining things or something The little yeah, yeah, you break them and it clears the water the skies are clear It's like it's getting better. Woohoo. Then you find out there's this whale creature And mamiya is upset because it's still here. He was hoping it had either died or escaped by now Um, and so you get all of the chains off it to free it It doesn't move and mamiya kind of panics and kratos explains to him like look sometimes There isn't fixing something like this only making things better Referring to yeah, it's good that it's free But you're not going to be able to undo what's been done to this thing It's it's nature is forever changed by the fact that it was changed for so long It's a it's a it's a it's quite a reality to have Happened in a side mission. Yeah, uh, rather than in the game It's like damn and mamiya feels fucking awful about it. But that's the reality the damage is done Sometimes the situations where The the yeah, it's like kratos says the best you can do is make things better But making things right. It's just that's not a possibility now And you have to accept that it informs a lot of the more regretful statements Mamiya makes in his like in the non-sectional which with sigran like he really wished he was faster on the on the ball with rectifying his mistakes Yeah, when he said I think in the 2018 game when he arrived in it god His goal was to impress odin and he did so by being a man who was very capable of knowledge But also impressing him by facilitating the deal with the dwarves that put them in a permanent like underclass and then of course this whale Be captured and gave to it Oriole, yeah Friends is very annoyed at that If you commit a crime it is always bad You're out forever bad says the leftist Why the full of shit Man says the leftist Don't you grab enemies whenever you want because that would be too many mechanics for the average person You said there were too many buttons on a controller Shut your mouth and there are grabbing mechanics in this game. So what is talking about this has been asked before but what is the optimal time amount a cutscene should be in my Um, am I ratcheting clink to review. I basically said one minute. What I'd say like one to two minutes It depends on ratcheting clink has longer cutscenes than one to two minutes at time springy way He's about to okay, okay If it's a major story cutscene, I I say you could go up to five minutes like There you go one to two generous, but if it's major five, you could have a five minute cutscene if it's a really It's highly arbitrary. No, no Extremely arbitrary No He's got it. He did. Yeah. He found this out in his lab story. Jesus. Just watch the game So someone in his chat is annoyed with him because he starts the game up and just talks all over everything And then they say to him just watch the game and so he gets triggered But compare this set of statements with the ones he just gave honest whaley you basically just proved all of our points Watch the game Watch Sit on that statement for a while if you do not see a problem with the statement watch The video game Which you would do for any cutscene if you're watching the video game you are ruining the industry You are part of the fucking problem like you could have a five minute cutscene if it's a really important to the story You are ruining the industry. You are part of the fucking problem. Yeah, I agree with synthetic man synthetic man's part of the problem Yep, what I think the soundtrack definitely not as good. There's no memorable tracks. So No Top call it shitty soundtrack. Now guys, I figure it's nice to Break for us. I'm gonna play the oh Sorry, the thaw song right because I had to play one that you would have come across by now so far No memorable tracks so far The god of war is a coward a weak coward. Don't don't you like your expectations being subverted? See what I mean, dude, this this is the last jedi of god of war It is and yeah, because they did something that you weren't expecting that simple. Yes Fucking awesome two god of wars who don't seek war Modern writing Here's voice so bad all the voice acting is is normal in this nothing is epic I see why my son fell to you lesser version of you But I am not my sons And your boy All father has plans for him. Nothing sounds Like dramatic and over the top because it ryan johnson. I will give him there isn't any lines like Zeus You can Inspire against The guy who directed this Actually worked on the other god of war games So I don't know why he's doing this subvert your expectation shit But it's just the poison the poison of california and modern politics and the way the world Has shifted. He's so fucking right the poison the poison of modern politics Ugh I'm the only sane man in this mad world the the cock writers want to kill kratos when Atreus dying would definitely be the better writing like a thousand percent Okay What is that What was the point of that that was fucking pointless It was just like oh man, remember him. I mean me You know Sure Yeah, no, they wanted to subvert your expectations. Don't get it. It's part of the ryan johnson experience This anyone like seriously I want to know like any real human being not not an npc But does any real human being like oh man, I want freya to be good guy. I liked her the first game She would Like yeah, you can make any perspective seem silly Yeah, but like freya is a character and a really great one Like the amount of work that they do She was on the same side as kratos and atreus for the vast majority of that game. Yeah Up until the end and then we get all the she helped you Yeah, but then we get all this pointless dialogue and then she just joins us because Of the poison. Yeah Yeah, but we all team up against the evil odin. He's a fascist. Oh, no I've heard about this. I promise. I'll be. Oh, no. What is he gonna say about run the toaster? Here we fucking go The old kratos would have grabbed that thing and snapped its neck with why Let's let's be glad that he's grown The story is Jesus Odin bad Gotta kill odin There you go Because we were looking for tear, but we found him in the first zone. So Now I guess they're just finding a way to kill him. That's better. Oh, I see. This is literally Like tutorial zone What the hell's the point of that? You can practice your combos for youtube videos and then make a clickbait thumbnail like Whoa, this this combo sick. This combo crazy. Whoa I like how it couldn't be that the combo is actually really cool Yeah, the name of the name of those videos is combo mats I don't understand why he's shitting on it. And then he also said like what's the point of a tutorial area I don't know man. Yeah, look at the definition of tutorial Can actually upgrade all your mods of your skills there if you want to experiment with the game mechanics Oh Could you might help you with your video? That sounds pretty soy to me I'm pretty soy. What is your being a pussy because our expectations are subverted Don't you get it a god of war who doesn't want to fight? It's the classic cinematic soundtrack where there's no memorable tracks and the game is nearly silent when things aren't happening Because god forbid someone hear a three minute loop of a good Memorable track in a video game in a modern fucking video game I like these bosses video Yeah, yeah, they're a nice little work. Nice sounds for once soothing This guy did the rings of power soundtrack Oh nice Look it back around No memorable tracks It's funny as well because you can actually find on my stream when I was listening to tracks in the background of alphime I started to remember I was like wait This is a remix of what they did in the previous game for alphide like I guess what I'm pointing out is like I literally remembered the track the point of noticing how they've altered it Like it is memorable at least for me. So I don't know what to do No player choice. What's that? I don't know Wait, what is the choice? He's annoyed he can't jump into the fucking river of souls like Okay, sorry. So he could find one for himself Back it in why not modern game Play your choice doesn't exist attempting treasure chest I wonder how much money they wasted having like a line of dialogue for every slightly notable thing in the game I've probably know that if you get the sandstorm stopped you can get to the chest Yeah, I guess they fucking cared I would have criticized it for how you can clearly see the top of the chest. It's all clear. So we just punch through anyway Punch through it. Yep And like when is sand gonna stop fucking kratos? You can just blow it off you go Fine I'm sorry flecks how little I give a shit about this imagine if a trace actually did become evil and kratos Had to kill his son. I think that would be way more interesting. Why do you want to just once creative? He wants to try violence Violence at any cost regardless of kill him. Just violence beat him up kill him Be so cool if jreus died. Haha. Just asking for a friend Uh This is like an alternate universe version of uh Uh freya's house. I don't know how how the hell There's no it's a it's a big tree that she's fallen out of this is a big tortoise thing like I don't Virtually the same. I mean tortoises trees essential they're both Neither of them you know, they're both they're both organic. They're both eukaryotes. That's cool That's neat. They usually like to try not recognize it. Yeah. Yeah slow. They're both slow. The story is so deep Yeah, really Every outcome would mean defeat. What does that mean? What? I have never wished you harm treya You helped us I'm disgusted with this kratos disgusted. Well, you only paid him You helped me I should have chopped your pocket Not really they're gonna shit on spartans now spartans are absolute sheds I don't like it. There's sounds pretty terrible. It's so amazing. He knows they would attract this guy off the cliff Yeah, you know, he does nothing about spot. Don't tell him I was gonna mention that earlier in 300. He and I just cried right before he dies We marched all the way out But for scraps are starved Our elders beta. Oh, this is the speech. He's like wow shit not the spot Still we could not stand At night we made our way home Alone or were food for wolves That is how spartans are made. They're gonna shit on spartans now. It is what? Fucking horrible upbringing. I'm sorry if you didn't do that terrible life I still don't even remember bro. It is I really don't like I it's not like I expect her to get over her son being killed It's just this is a horrible horrible idea. Like this is some marvel movie shit You do not become friends with the man who killed your son She feels she killed bolder. That's the point. Are they making the king or the choices that she made? Yep, you don't And you also don't like kratos the the the god the gen the guy who genocided a pantheon of gods Is not going to be like, oh this god is trying to kill me, but she's my friend I can't help my friends Why can't he hurt his friend? Remember freya saved atreus's life. He doesn't address it ever. He just says no, he'd kill it He'd kill it like yeah, you you have to ignore that to make that point Like it's the reason why he refuses to do it. Mm-hmm sure now. He grew up Fucking piece of shit I I I swear to god if one like 35 year old man shall the no kids and 100 funko pops Is going to try and tell me about maturity eat a fucking dick, dude Very well stated. Yeah portals Okay, why couldn't they just do that at the start of the fight? Because she was a bird If portals can chop people in half or The captain need to open the portal just like close the realm tear at the start of him trying to get away The game took care of this they start the thing is in the portal And it's only once kratos drags it and grabs it the portal closes behind you thug and then she turns into Wario Freya, so it's too late to use it at that point. Yes But luckily for him someone in his chat points this out Kind of an obvious fly hold anything No, you had a way around audience cuffs this whole time No I discovered it once you unlocked realm travel and it solves very little this form is extremely limiting Just suck as a bird though. I don't know can't kratos close the hole or something Oh No, no, he can't he doesn't know fucking how The super mega badass is she's like crying over like tear and a fucking forest heart thing Man, what how can you you don't know who she is? You just don't know who she is So he doesn't know anything. He doesn't know what's happening. He has no idea My god, look at kratos groveling in front of this strong female character. Is he groveling right here? Is this what he's doing? What do you think probably I killed one more god than I should have You say this as if like The greek gods didn't have families. I mean They were a family. So you're making the point of the journey He's like he's like kratos is showing some level of regret as to the actions related to boulder the effects It had on freya But why didn't he show this kind of regret for what he did in the greek trilogy? It's like you mean like his whole deal is the guilt and at the end of god of war 3, right? In the at the end of one of those the older games Well, a lot of people like to try and forget that god of war 3 sets him on this path That they're like nanana god of war 3 ends with him regretting the choices that he's made. Yes, and then killing himself Releasing hope into the world Related And you killed all of them without mercy You know, I was actually I needed that clip obviously for earlier in the game And um the youtube thing put a cover up saying this this video covers suicide. Are you sure you want to watch it? Uh regarding god of war 3 It's interesting. It's like well, I guess he does stab himself with a big old sword, but he doesn't die I guess that's still enough though to be like, hey graphic This can be powerful. Yeah, even for the unworthy My wife fey talk me that I hate every yeah, how the hell It's actually many things Stop learning things from people who aren't yourself kratos if it was possible to hate every character I think I hate every character. This is just modern woke writing is every character is unlikable as fuck Wild woke is what I don't like it He's getting a bit more blatant Everyone's crying and apologizing How mature god of war is they're they're expressing their feelings Oh, yeah, it's probably a healthy thing to do when you one day if you grow up you'll learn that They're really sad boba because they're both fighting over you know Who was it fault the split them apart and then you know you get to this point in the conversation Where they're both just like i'm just fucking glad that you're back I missed you so much What is this soap opera shit? Yeah, I I know I who no one gives a shit I don't drama gay and boring and totally not based very sword guy do anything He has a sword. Oh, he's got a big sword. He must be cool But he does do a cool thing with this Why does he just exist What the fucking nerve Fucking This guy just over here existing. He's not even in my fucking way. How dare him If this was god of war one two or three Any of these mounting sections like the beginning with the dogs or when we were riding that huge yak with uh Angra boat of the black chick or any of these boats You would have been able to attack They would have designed a section just for this you could hit That's the funny thing right that you say that in god of war one two and three and any of you will know When you go across like a long chain or you climb me a wall oftentimes suddenly There's just a horde of easy to kill enemies that appear and you have to attack and then move attack move attack And it's funny. I don't know if I said it on the stream But like I am not fond of those they've always come across to me as we can't have the player moving from a to b without Something happening. Otherwise they might for a second think wow, this is kind of boring But the thing is the gameplay on those sequences are so lame Just like spam square until they go away and then you move on It's like it's not supposedly the the easiest enemies You can either just grab and throw of a cliff or something Just like oh, you're just here to keep me busy For a second the player merely doing something doesn't mean they're engaged Yeah, people need to stop thinking that it does Yeah Sometimes I just sometimes I just want to go somewhere Because that makes sense If you're if your goal is to design a video game Then you try and make things feel unique have the encounters stand out in some way in a modern shitty Cinematic sony game you're instead just oh row row row your boat Like fucking what why what where you want to go and then you get out of the boat and you buy all of the Taste and should never be listened to again Sorry Mel Wait, what I wasn't anyone who says this is a masterpiece has shit taste and should never be listened to again That's that's okay. I don't want you to listen to me I'm serious. It's fucking 7 a.m. I'm so over him. I know I'm so over that far behind I can't believe it because he wants him to make the decision himself Yeah, I thought that was obvious by the fact that he was standing still That far behind after that long He didn't immediately bolt after his son as soon as he transformed. Are you fucking kidding me? It's so poor of the great writing guys great writing told me Yeah, it is pretty great. Yeah to kill you and asgard I'm though I thought you didn't believe in that How could kratos not believe in that if he literally killed the fates in his realm? That is why he doesn't believe in fate. He killed them What do you mean? He doesn't believe that fate controls decisions because he fucking killed fate He was like a fate and stabbed it and threw it back in time and trapped it That didn't really make any sense. The point is no he he he is not a fan. He got the information he wanted from the norns That doesn't make any sense. I didn't know it then But I actually put his soul into my knife. He put his soul into his knife So I thought maybe fennry's good Yeah, let's see if it's up. See they subverted your expectations just to actually do it anyway So now garm is effectively fennry Okay, I don't like them Why is he so unsatisfied? He's not his problem with that Isn't this like like a neat payoff that fennry is back and he's you know a good boy and he's garm's I got garm's powers now and isn't that like interesting. Isn't that worthy of some level of commentary? ryan johnson I feel like under 10 layers of of deeper meaning The message here is trust your teenage kid when they make a life-changing decision like chop their dick off a genuine Okay. All right. We're going there. I suppose From atreus. I thought he was going to say like adopt a dog and I was so horribly wrong. Shit Got that from atreus trying something He wasn't sure would work and asking his father to help him and believe in him and they worked together to do it Got that from it Just fucking poisoned That's only for what yeah, because he's done nothing They built it up at the end of the last game Is like, oh, this is the next big quest Well, because they had to combine two games in the one You get tear in the first few hours and then he does nothing of relevance I could think of a plan ever. He's really fucking useless licks any unfinished business in other realms You wanted to take care of i'm sure the lord would love to help They're like, please go do our side quest guys We spent we spent months on our generic shitty side quest. Please do whatever you want They're letting you know it exists. Yeah, and you clearly been complaining that there's not enough gameplay and then you say I'll do your shitty saves and go fuck yourself Don't complain about Exactly what do you want? If I could get can I have more gameplay? Oh, I can well, fuck you. I'm not doing it You could have been doing that the whole time This song is almost december It's from L. R. You can't have memorable music in video games. It might distract from Awesome super special combat and then we get to the end of your summer. Halo laughs at you He's saying the reason they likely chose not to have Memorable music is so it wouldn't get in the way of the combat and the story That's that's famously what yeah. Yeah, that's that's famously how good music works That's why everyone talks about the tracks they don't remember from the combat sections They enjoyed and everyone talks about their least favorite boss fight tracks in the souls games and stuff, you know What a bizarre thing to say Does this sound like two gods talking to each other and one of them is high One of them is How In all the nine realms Did you manage to kill hindal? I knew our spear was no one believed that kratos killed like a whole pantheon of gods That hindal hindal is the reason for that if you check out these references Constantly the act shocked when he killed another god. The plan is to kill hindal first Oh, wow. Okay hindal. Let's see never loses sees everything coming unpopular at parties. This won't be easy Kratos I've never seen anyone so much as lay a finger on him not one. They believe he can kill gods They're not sure he can kill hindal They're gonna lose her you may be working with all father and enjoying his little it's a lot of balls But stay where my family's business and it seems out of care. Oh, there's two. I don't wait What would you fuck the balls? He's saying atreus telling someone what he believes to be true in an environment that he's not exactly got Holding all of the power is out of character. Atreus wouldn't be so ballsy as to tell someone what he thinks I never and he certainly later wouldn't mention to his father that when i'm not around you I act impulsively and maybe don't make the smartest of decisions. Yeah, that would be crazy Definitely not a character not at all. He didn't fucking stand up to kratos several times in the 2018 game when he was what nine I don't understand. What's the point? We already know thore's gonna die No, we don't I guess when he read the leaks remember so So why like I don't know they're trying to get us to care about him Oh, he's not what a foolish. He's never I'm gonna give you a little bit of insight here Everyone's going to die. So fuck it Is this really the right time for this Yeah, yes You just made a mess of an entire building and he went on an alcohol fueled violence binge And he couldn't be drinking anyway This is the perfect time for it When it would happen his daughter has got a mission and he's drinking again. One thing he promised he Probably died for this Look at his fucking face. He knows he's failed He's an alcoholic because his daddy doesn't love him This is really what I wanted in god of war God of motherfucking war dude Remember when he got really mad about that that guy like the fact that he he he made an argument was in universe But he was like, oh, that's a meta argument. That's ridiculous But every time he's like, oh, this is god of war. It should be like this. It's a meta argument Yeah So like I presume he's actually pretty cool with meta arguments when they service his goals Imagine I said, you know in the scenes where creditors is dealing with either explaining or dealing with the death of his initial Wife and daughter and then I was just posing and going this is god of war. I want to tear people's heads off. What is this? Yes, that is god of war Roma Talking about how worthless here is We can slip into asgard and do it ourselves right under his nose We gain the knowledge we need to shatter this prophecy of war once and for all Except begging your pardon. You don't have a way into asgard or or What if using the mask and gazing into the tear is what causes ragnarok? Are we not going to think of this as a possibility? I feel like just I just thought of that immediately What is your reasoning for why staring into the the crack is going to cause ragnarok? I don't know what's the connection there Yeah, it was never in any of the prophecies it Yeah, as far as I know the the the crack of knowledge wasn't ever mentioned in the prophecies I have no idea why he thinks that's a good call. There's nothing that's like I mean, it's like potentially there's something there maybe about how the pursuit of Pretty much like there's nothing to tear it to On the path to use the mask to look in the tear and start ragnarok Maybe the tear would give him knowledge of something that would then say I Like if the story was different, maybe Will of the force I don't you know, are none of the characters gonna think of this Whatever who cares Indeed who cares now we kill And anyone who gets in our way Yeah, why is Freya more god of war than the actual god of war? She personally really does she's not very keen on odin. Yeah, she doesn't like him She really doesn't like odin. You would know this if you were paying attention to even modest amounts during your playthrough vengeance Yes, kratos. That is who you are. You are vengeance That is that is your character and that's not necessarily bad Uh, if it is the personification of you as a person. Yeah, that's pretty bad I love how brak dying was kind of pointless because kratos managed to get the mask anyway from odin. How is this His death didn't serve it Like a character can't die tragically and that that's bad if it doesn't serve some plot purpose Even though it absolutely does Yeah Odin is dead because he killed brak. Yeah He's hurting real A boar is a black guy. What what are you talking about? What what stop pointing at keep saying he's a black guy Not just a guy Like tier didn't do anything irrelevant, so it doesn't really matter that he was odin, you know Except poisoning all their minds Yeah, with them an edging atreus towards odin a lot killing brak Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, I guess I'm I guess I should have guessed Just because they didn't do anything with them, but because the writing was so bad for a lot of the game I just I didn't think they would do that. That's my bad. I know you didn't read it in the leaks So you couldn't pretend like you predicted it You know how the leaks didn't contain it, but they didn't Are you gonna comment? I don't know why they're doing this. I'm surprised they didn't just roll credits Well, I'm rolling credits before think of the payoffs you miss if you rolled credits now He doesn't understand to pay us anyway. Yeah, not a big surprise, but they should have just rolled credits I need you to hear I appreciate you. I can't leave. I don't know why Oh my god Appreciate you so much for you Anger voted didn't even fucking do anything. Okay Yeah, definitely She didn't literally save all of the characters from death in ragnarok. So that There's some reason that wants to minimize her contribution. It's so fucking strange. Did she exist again? All right diversity points, right? Oh And now it's dead He asked why the old man had called for him Oh god this callbacks don't work if they happened like one hour ago a cold back It is finishing the story finishing the story They've got plenty of callbacks, but this ain't one of them. This isn't like a callback No, why didn't she prize all the ones that were from like 20 hours earlier? He didn't know they were they didn't recognize He wouldn't know what they are. Just cause there were a lot of them One thing he actually read Some of them were different games. Yes I will not play it. I swear to you. I will skip it. I will review anything else That uh, if they were if they make another game where a trace is a hero, he won't be playing it Oh, I hope a trace is a hero in the next carry bait Yeah Good deal That's a promise Remember in games when you could just hit something I want I want trace to die Like I want trace to die So kratos has the will to like be the angry god of organ. Wouldn't that be so based kratos is a hero This one kratos used to fuck hot girls. Now he sucks Yeah, I mean it's really dichotomy fucking hot girls Sucking. Yeah, that's the two I guess we're all you're hot girls that you're fucking Do they know that you live with your mommy? Why do you care so much? Jesus christ, man, stop asking the same question. No Okay, maybe he's trying to help his son. I know that's crazy kratos Yeah, so he's listening to dialogue about a trace poking at kratos trying to find out why he's so invested in saving the half kufa And he's he said maybe just wants to fucking do so with you Which if anyone knows that is literally the payoff for this section. Yeah, it is. Well, mamiya says he just wants to hang out with you So what happens when he gets that as the payoff? Kratos being a I don't believe it either, but really I don't but uh This is like completely pointless dialogue right now like completely fucking pointless Thanks for bringing us out here I have to do this kind of stuff just to keep my mind off ragnarok, you know This was not a distraction No, then why are we really out here? Have you ever considered? He just wants to spend time with your lad while he still can Really? We do not know what lies ahead But if ragnarok approaches I wish to enjoy the time we have left I I don't know what to say Thank you For bringing us out here I'm glad we did this as am I Oh, you have nothing like to say about all that. Oh, yes, something cream Wow cream It's cringe, you know as we know synthetic man Maybe one day as you get older and the people you love get older and things start to change in your life You look back on the scene and really appreciate it. Yeah Imagine I like imagine if they subverted our expectations in like an actually interesting way and atreus just insulted her constantly Would that not be awesome? I think that no, it would be fucking War Slaughtering the gods and screaming is more mature than this No, it really is. Oh, yeah I will never let that go shy. I will argue that I will die on that fucking hill Get the fuck up mamiir. This is exactly what I want to be Brush his face Geez not the monster who kills without cause Like a sigma male chad So, you know this toxic masculine. He's dead. Look guys, it's a whale Let's stab it in the eye. That's what cradle the real kratos would do. Oh, what a child You're an actual child. Even og kratos would just stab a creature in the eye for no reason at all. What do you mean? Yeah, why can I not stab it? Why would you want to? Why are you a dick? With nothing to occupy your mind like I hope you don't have any pets He has a dog. Why would god of war of any franchise try and teach you about morality? Why can I not stand? Because some of the people who play these games really need it apparently maybe You know now that I know more about the dark elves I wish we didn't have to fight them. They attack us Well, this is their home and considering what happened the last time we were in alfam Can you really blame them? Oh boy more god of war. Teach me morality basic Yeah, Sony games is so mature, dude. What if we're the baddies? Oh my god crazy, dude That's that's who would have thought that that's nuts. Why did I made you think? I don't know. Sorry. You're just allergic to the concept of introspection I suppose I should expect nothing less from half greens Don't call me a half green They loved to learn little girl Starting with who you are. Yeah, I'm doll is the supreme gentleman Like if any breadtuber wanted to take me down, they could just pull up a bunch of stream flips. That's all I would take Well If you don't mind pausing it for just a moment, I'm gonna get a drink and I actually don't want to miss any I'll just be a few moments We are coming to the end everyone Yeah, almost there So close to the end What a What a creator. Yeah, not real. It's unreal What a fucking dick kind of goes it really does sort of It's it's insane, isn't it? What a garbage bag Absolutely. This is one of the worst humans we've ever covered Holy shit, but don't worry you fellas We're gonna find we've still not seen the worst of it I know you're all sitting there thinking what do you mean? It's like it'll make sense. Don't you Hahaha Oh I don't even know what's come. I don't I just I don't even know what's going on anymore I'm just I'm just I'm gonna go bad in a while since we've done a Near cap hour e-fap man Let's listen to give me something for the pain and let me die. Yeah Pretty much It's fucking half past 7 a.m. I don't even know when I was lost I put that long I'm gonna sleep. I'm not going to sleep now. Like they're close to the end Someone said I'm just waiting for him to pull a Kanye. What a weird thing to say It's crazy how much I knew it in the last month. I knew it. Nonsense. Nonsense The train always ends at this stop every time The whole road Rags hurry so that we can have something for the pain Hurry up rags. I'm so tired. That's a buy Are we all Um, it's the kind of the kind of thing you don't expect to do. I bet most people were here today That was tuned into a normal e-fap has not been normal. And no, I didn't think I was expecting this at all I was hoping to just find references to the game that I could Support the review with because I thought it was really interesting a lot of the things he said And you heard your name a bunch. Ow You could say a bunch. Yeah, I hear a lot of names a lot of creators gonna mentioned. He was very he's a very bitter man the His trouble The main thing he's after is attention. He wants more and more acclaim. He wants more credibility Rags are you ready? I am ready. I had to take a piss worthy of the memory store All right. Oh boy. Here we go. Okay, you know when I was kid was full of it was full of slurs And when you have slurs, then your banter actually has power I fucking hate if you need a slur for your banter to have power It's really weird to phrase it that way slurs gave our insults power Okay You know what banter when I is it I try to keep those segments of the videos to a minimum But it's impossible when modern games are so So disgustingly Poisoned by leftist ideology like this input reading Uh, I was gonna say in order to stop myself. Thank god Uh, this bundle of stick siree. I don't know stop it Stop you're not even using it as a joke. You're just like actually kind of like being a real dick about it Get ready for this tater. How could you still like her? I know redditors are like soy boy cocksuckers They're all secretly gay It's like here's the thing. Um, like if you're an actual cuckold I mean, and I mean literally not the meme version, but like, you know, you get off to men fucking your wife You're self inserting as the woman you're gay There you go. Boom. There's my theory. That's that's my distance. I that's an interesting Floyd What If you can arrange cuckolding with your wife, but you're secretly gay, then like Surely you can just fuck dudes, right? There's objectively fewer people involved if you just meet up with one dude And have cut out the middle woman, you know exactly and he would he should like that To get rid of the one Well, yeah, and if I roll it back, I would say to get look what he says in conclusion when he realizes how fucking stupid What he says Watch yourself inserting as the woman you're gay There you go. Boom. There's my theory. That's that's my distance. That's uh, that's Nevermind who cares whatever He said nevermind who cares whatever i'm correct All right, all right I'm sure it has nothing to do with like ownership or our security or humiliation or Opening relationship this or any of the different aspects I could go into that. It's because you want to Be fucked by dudes things gay people are lesser. He thinks bisexual people are lesser. This was the whole idea. He's like How incredibly based you referred to it as a flaw That's my obvious flaw Universal health care. You want to give these fat fucks you want to pay more taxes? This is what the euro fags Oh, it's fine. I said it euro pores Euro pores Don't understand facts is synonymous with not having money Is that new pause or whores? Pause whores. This is a fortune thing euro pause Nice You guys pay like over half your income to the government who who fucking stabs you in the back And you have no rights Imagine tuning in for god of war Some way I do want to talk about how the women I already mentioned like the female characters take charge and are always right or whatever For those of you who are here, which is probably not most of you If you watch the uh, oh look a women I love beating women with my fists and my giant shield Diversity the strength of diversity. We have female enemies, which means incels can beat the shit out of women and get away with it All right, at least I get to kill women a woke I mean I don't know Freya Stabbed kratos and they're building her up to be a badass or something. That's about it. I guess just female enemies Pretty badass in the last game That's how it's woke. There are female enemies scene was definitely written by a woman Why did they make for a huge I thought it was anthony birch Well, no is On the writing team, there are women present. So we know why the game is badly written now It was because oh because anthony birch and anthony birch wrote this story There we go four female writers on this right? That's that's what people are saying Someone told me there's four female writers on this game. I know a lot of pierce is one of them full A lot of pierce is one of the women's even and we already know there's at least four diversity hires on this Because they're women They have to be diversity hires No woman could have actual talent. What what are you doing, dude embarrassing being a woman couldn't actually have real talent He's being a revolting in terms of in the writing staff a lot appears to brag when she got to write But she's not credited as such Really Maybe her writing was that bad. There's still four female writers It's like what until all the what are you doing literally that being female is bad for the right Absolutely insane to you And like he's a character that people think we are yeah, but you're real He's he's got probably right is everything Maybe her writing was that bad There's still four female writers And look he's on the ground. She's standing up. So already making him look inferior What? He tripped over because he got spooked. Oh my god, they're definitely This is an agenda here. There's a fucking agenda here a lot of pierce Never mind. I don't know. I'm not gonna say anything. I'm gonna get in trouble. I'm gonna get in trouble Where are your parents this is fucking it's fuck all You know what any person who ever simped for her needs to be executed And what I'm sorry. I can't say what I want to happen to a lot of ears what the Jesus christ like I don't like plenty of people but Like it's impossible to tell where the joke begins and ends with him We said I can't say what I want to happen to her because I'd be bad. It's like, what the hell you Really hate a lot of peers Yeah, that's kind of fucked up But I can't say every simp should be killed. She's gonna peg him Maybe maybe maybe that's the only way Fuck I gotta be careful about what I say. I gotta be careful. I gotta be careful gotta be careful Oh, man a woman beat man at thing I think I got it. Fuck off. How dare. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I mean granted. He's never done it before but still His brain was like wait, you were taught that he was like shut up What man has to save a man again. Oh boy, she wins she won again Thank you. You want to get she should peg him. Just peg atreus God, this is cringe the cringe levels the thirst for her dude Hey, all these badass women except look, she can't even keep her emotions together She was a super badass in the fight Like compare his commentary and I Liberally applied quotation marks, but compare his commentary with ours during that incredible scene More female enemies by the way guys A lot of badass women in in the norse dimension Stop Lots of badass women in north. Yes. Yes, there are what is called Freya. You may not have heard of her And the Valkyries Oh, well Don't ask questions. Many of our people as possible my responsibility one You didn't take seriously then and from the looks of it Woman good man bad Not quite yet Whammon It's a strong female character here to actually save the day not the main character You have no he doesn't pull any of that back when you at the end defeat oden with Kratos atreia and Freya, but oh, well All he does is this one of me on the npc. Shit. He sees stimuli and has set responses. Yeah, exactly Anymore Wow So brave I mean that's literally showing him that she got her wings back Not woke at all guys not woke at all Oh, no, look how strong she is. She's very strong. I'm weak. She's Thor's daughter. The woman is very strong You know, do we want to she instantly says oh crap. This is heavy as fuck. Yes. Oh, well women I I suppress it because I I hate to say it. I I never would have guessed me of all people would have female viewers I mean, I do self-sensitive. They're probably laughing at you But regardless You know, we could talk about women and why I'm in the situation I'm in but I feel I guess it's a bad idea Wait, wait, you're you're 27 years old and living at home because of women. It's women's fault I assume what he's saying is we could talk about women and why I'm in the situation of it being I've got I've got no women You're bona fide incel Of course he's an incel but Usually out, you know I figured he meant that he he got crushed by a girl and like now what now that's why he's living with his folks Oh, it's all her fault. He took the he did that. He's down into the andrew tate Uh, rational male red pill shit He's in the grind set guys That's why he identifies with a heimdall because he could see the intentions of women when he looks into their eyes That's giving youtube enough reason to be This is literally this guy doesn't need to exist. It's just like they needed a black guy That a black girl So they needed a black guy. That's definitely how it works. I don't even know what to say about that. Yeah, I guess There's no there's literally no other reason for this guy to exist If I was working for game stop, it'd be like fucking base, dude I'll ring up that refund right away. Even if I get fired I want to say I wanted to say something. I'm gonna say a slur, but I can't Oh You know if you don't as long as you don't stream it you could like say as many slurs as you want in your room Like no one's actually stopping you. You just don't just don't stream it and you'll be fine Just get it as before you start a stream 10 minutes beforehand get it all out of your system think about me and fringy and mawler and And jay and all the women in the world and just get it out of your system So that when you sit down for your stream all of those negative thoughts are gone And Was racist I get fired Dare they wouldn't say something I would say a slur, but I can't say it imagine if kratos was racist, you know No They would never they would never dare. They would never dare. I can't imagine why it's such a bold decision Oh It's just because of cowardice. They're too cowardly to make kratos a foul racist And that would be actual kratos can't be interesting. He can just grunt. The holy racists are interesting Oh my god, the racists they're the interesting ones Trump That they didn't make kratos outwardly racist is depressing things But so the end point remains me and her we obviously need to breed and then I execute all my sons And then I gotta do all those grand sons What you might not grasp exactly what he's saying straight away here, but this is one of the worst of all of the quotes He's trying to solve the problem of angrobotas in color Wait, what's it go back? What's he saying? Oh my god? I don't want to hear it again Breed Breed can't be interesting. He can just grunt and say Why is depressing things? So the end point remains me and her we obviously need to breed And then I execute all my sons And then breed with the daughters execute all those the grandsons I what what does happen? What is going on? He can have a harem of his own kids You understand if he does that trying to explain why loki is the first northman or he's trying to say he can dilute out And make it so the kids are progressively more white because none of But that's somehow worse than what I was thinking. Well, uh, you've got the incest along with it So don't worry. That's a package. Yeah, we got the murder Which is the worst part. We're at the harem of your own children Which is also not great. Not great and the purpose of it being to uh To to lighten things up a bit shall we say? Not uh, not great. No, not no Does dr. Pepper know you're wearing the merch? Pull dr. Pepper. He would he would not be he would not approve That's fucked up. Yeah a little bit the slurs have been taken away from you. So you use monkey emojis What Yup Based boy, what a wow no base to those sjw's showrunners a big mouth they're romantically interested in babies Pull it with the anti-semitic remarks someone's gonna use your feeling clips against you Go ahead. Come on. I'll stand on that one the ones that I'm worried about other Uh, you know talking about them Yeah, that fills up my bingo card Yeah, we did it. Ladies and gentlemen Here we go As long as I don't do anything the algorithm triggers or you know do something nobody watches Then I can at least reference something that we all know what's going on Yeah, we all know it's happening If he's not jordan peterson, he's sold out and he's controlled opposition now Just look at who he's hanging out with I don't know what to call him like team republican Uh Something I don't know small hats What is no way to say it without saying what what is that man? No way to say it without saying it What roads lead here? To be an equivalent to the Illuminati, but it just doesn't like that's just not how it works in reality There are multiple groups of people trying to bring down western civilization And they're not all on the same team. There's a certain Uh common factor between all the teams if you do your research, obviously if you do your research Never mind. Anyway, you guys all know I'm preaching to the choir Come on Yeah He's going full con yet common factor between all the teams if you do your research, obviously Yeah, you know certain never mind. Anyway, you guys all know I'm preaching to the choir. Oh, yeah, I'm preaching to the choir I hope I never ever can say that I'm preaching to the choir when I'm referencing my audience these things Yeah, got some things. I can't tell you to look up Uh things about I don't know two percent of the population Controlling a significant amount of the media and the government Oh, no, media is not a good source for a lot of reasons like a lot of reasons It used to just be oh anyone can edit the page. Well, it's not even it's not even that actually It's almost the opposite where many pages are constantly guarded by Well, they use bots, but they're still subhumans regardless or Setting up bots to monitor pages They started even what a good because of the noticing It started removing a particular thing from the early life section of many pages That's why that's exactly the reason why I'm suspect of people like uh critical drinker Again, I'm not saying he's controlled opposition But this is something I don't know. I guess when you condense a problem to the message instead of naming them Oh, he's paid off and shackled by the jews to not talk about this. Oh my goodness gracious I should be so happy As you guys could imagine revolting viewpoint. I had no fucking clue. What rabbit hole How the fuck did we get here? This was just a shitty god of war review and then it turned into like a like a freudian case study He's annoyed that drinker won't name them Christ Uh, you can't name them on youtube either But i'm just saying dp geordi. I've already said too much politically Like the dog whistles are not Like as whistly as you'd think the amount of times i've talked about certain group of people Is that as far it's already way bad like two that's already crossed the line like there's no going back from that It just shows how cowardly the right has become that there hasn't already been an uprising The founding fathers started Who are you a boogaloo a long time ago? What the american government has done to us is far worse than than the british government did to the colonies So i'll take calm down cow Cow And we all know who's to blame Oh, he's made that perfectly clear and you say you should have risen up by now This is if only really bad He's a fucking gay reviewer. What the hell? And i can't even rely on those cowardly republicans to not say the truth. What's wrong with them the poll user And we're vastly outnumbered by normies Wars are won by those willing to sacrifice everything If you're not willing to take up arms the cost of vengeance, and i mean that literally No, don't say that watch no Some of the snowflakes will release a video exposing you will you watch it on stream Only if it gets a lot of views i'm not gonna give attention to A smaller youtuber for no reason Everyone else is selling out man. We need someone who speaks the truth Yeah, also, i love range shadow. I realize the irony of this when fucking b-man lives doesn't want to acknowledge my existence But i just think when it's like a tiny youtuber who has no identity. It's a little different, you know like if i made Like this uh, what was he called? Some bread or something you guys said his name earlier Or potato. That's what it was the potato guy I don't think he is really a content creator, you know, i mean I mean maybe it doesn't seem like But I don't know whatever. I can just be a hypocrite. I guess The classic disregarding of smaller creators and you just said i can just be a hypocrite Oh, okay. You're just proud of that. Are you remember this guy's all about integrity and honesty He just said i could just be a hypocrite. Whatever super based He doesn't give a fuck. That's cool. Never be in a cold. Cool to not care. Caring is lame People don't want to address. I exist because I have real opinions about video games I don't think there's any game reviewers. I trust anymore. I I trust myself in my own opinion. That's but it And i want more than i don't trust Man keep being real. You're the rare exception ocean of mediocrity. Well, thanks It does mean a lot. I I try being The one I thought you said that you're not gonna change the way that you make your videos because they're not they're not that important Or like youtube videos who cares they're not relevant for long. Oh, he's keeping it real Oh, right. Yeah, of course, I dig this. It's not good guys. It's not good. Why can't we just Everyone's against me. I don't even know if anyone has any real opinions anymore This is everyone is a person for you, right? Yes. Yeah, it's a fucking liar. He's everyone's a liar Yeah Spoilers the video is going to be called god of war ragnarok is the new last jedi because it exists. Oh, what happened? Oh man, not really weird just to subvert your expectations, but again all these people is supposed People with integrity that you can always trust if a game is good Don't fucking tell you this you didn't tell them it Yeah, you changed your title because you're a coward You knew that god of war ragnarok is not a masterpiece and a provable fucking title Knew it you couldn't you couldn't put it to the thing you said you do And then said all this shit about integrity so interesting See this guy doesn't have very strong principles or is a liar as are many people on youtube The only people I start shit with are people I know And there's one more clip that really isn't going to be a surprise to any of This is not spicy And I'm sure it's me dude. I've never been invited to anything Where no one came to his birthday Oh my god, that is it. What the fuck was that? Now this individual is seriously not okay and Steering and terrible and holy fuck grow up Yeah, I mean jesus Probably like the meme The meme come to life of a woke person Anti-woke person he's It's I'm Uncanny actually From very early on I had him down Yeah, you did you figured all of it out before the reveal The key word is brain rot. Yeah. Yeah, like to just absolutely brain rot brain rot I mean like I don't know You don't always have to be that way man. If you're watching this You can be better You could learn some lessons from the actual game if you wouldn't understand it but Well, I think this kind of game but the best you get has is actually perfect for people like him As in like it's the kind of thing he needs to hear and understand, but he's never to get through Yeah, some other way No one planned the dough seats yet Being better is soy It's pretty soy. That's true. It's pretty caught my bat. He's real hard But when you manage to it's like, yeah, you know, you can be real proud of it It's pretty cool. What uh What an incredibly insecure Soy NPC of a person. Absolutely would know what you said or see Actual incel. Um, yeah, I don't think I've unironically called people that before but I I think he is one I mean I mean what what we have he hates the blacks anyone who's not straight. I can only assume Very much hates women Jews trans people Like everyone and also men who aren't just like ludicrously violent um He seems to be allergic to emotions Or feelings or explorations of those things Just what an overall and one plus he's terrible at his job and he has no sense of pride in his work No, like I don't want to say he's an utterly worthless being because he's a great bad example for us to you know value from But what a worthless person That was an adventure horrifying Geez, that was an adventure Pain forward. Yeah, like I said, I was hoping to just talk about ragnarok and then in the middle of all of it It was like he was throwing loads of shit at all these creators including myself at if I was just like what the fuck And then of course Just in between, you know cut scenes from this game and bit of combat you just throw in the odd You know they are controlling everything. They need to be stopped. We need to start a war It's like oh Okay, oh Wow These These people are out there and they exist and um, I'm glad they're So stupid that they just say these things out loud for us to be able to see Mm-hmm Well, as he said right at the beginning of the video all it takes is someone to actually listen to him uh I did Nutty That is uh feel good That's cathartic in a way. It must certainly be for moller after putting all that shit together He must still how much how many hours of a shit did you watch way too many? It was difficult But I mean obviously once I found out about some of the stupidly harsh and horrible shit I was like right. I guess this project is becoming a big boy Um, which is weird for me, right? So I don't put any effort into anything ever usually Yeah Lazy soy cuck Absolute nightmare putting this thing together not only for the fact that it takes ages but to listen to him for that long Uh, it's just like the Hassan stuff. I had to actually watch the streams. It sucks Actually sucks. Yeah I don't know how the fuck people enjoy his streams Like I said, he's awful at the games takes ages to even pay attention to what's happening His commentary and his jokes. They're all like incredibly half baked Braille off And then like a lot of them every time I mean spirited so what a woman shows up. He's just like woman Woman, right? What is that? There's that clip where he's like, you know, I wanted to talk about Women it's just like what what is wrong with you? Oh Yeah, and of course just a complete lack of understanding about anything to do with the game And it's many of you not saying you're in chat right now Okay, but many of you recommended his video as a way to breach the bubble you guys are You know, it's sawing out over ragnarok. You need to see a real person's opinion You need to understand the criticisms like that video was fucking horrendous That was embarrassing if you recommend this to us Unironically you should feel embarrassed. You should you should probably you should be ashamed of yourself Honestly, I gotta I gotta be honest guys. We got to be doing better than this That was really bad It makes me feel like I've You know, it makes me feel like we've failed You know in a way that was bad um Oh boy Yeah, we uh, you don't want to fall into the really bad sides of any Ideology. It's not even left or right. There's all of them any of them from any side You can go to the extreme side easily you can fall right in there that dumb ass pipeline shit Like well, yeah, it's gonna be true for some people Uh, this is the this is the worst guy we've ever covered Almost like a nihilism pipeline other than anything else the the path to doom or dim Yeah, yeah, the path of just being bitter about everything Because you're a child and you can't appreciate anything about the world Filts of through these bizarre lenses. It's so weird Yeah I honestly my money's still on financially disastrous breakup be a divorce or otherwise um Obviously, there's this subset of I was just like, yeah, I'm hoping he gets whatever he needs to move out of this Uh mindset because it's toxic as fuck yeah Not gonna Not gonna do anything in the long run. Nothing good at least So We were watching I guess We'll start with that Yeah, this avoid being like him in every way possible I'm gonna wrap up. Um, we'll start with with The mark and metal you can talk a little bit about what you getting up to not to say that your answer would be The different from three days ago or whatever, but hey may have changed Well, I mean a good way to find out about that is uh watch metals forge from yesterday I was on and we talked about a bunch of stuff. I think I thought I had a pretty good time That's good. Yeah. That's what we did talk about game awards All the some trailer is a lot of trailers. Actually, it's just a bunch of random random stuff Uh This is probably blinked down below if youtube didn't eat it again. I don't know. I'm too tired to check So, yeah, there you go next week. I'll talk about avatar with frango avatar to we don't know when yet though Oh, all right Anything else you want No, no, that's cool Uh, Frank Um I'm kind of getting a bit tired, you know getting a little bit tired. I Let's see No, yeah, I um, I'm a little bit I'm just a little bit tired I uh Boy, what a journey You know, what do you say when you finally get back to the shire after your long journey? I know right have you witnessed all this barren desolation and madness? Oh, what a journey different people Uh Oh, yeah, so I guess I'll just I'll give a general thing of what's going to happen now So expect this to be uploaded to mula and then the super cut for the ragnarok story stuff that I did because I don't want it to Never be seen by anybody ever again And then of course the super cut we just watched that'll be going up with the different titles So you guys I I know everyone's going to want to have it as a source instead of just this episode Um, and then the next efap is going to be a pre-recorded one that we've done already I kind of let the cat out of the bag, which is fine We responded to organized chaos is breakdown of my dr. Strange video very uh very good very interesting breakdown We learned a lot. Oh boy. You got that. Uh, I'll premiere it on on mula So you guys can watch that and then the following week will be Christmas And we'll probably release something that we pre-recorded then as well. Not sure what it will be Uh, and we'll be back either new year's eve Or some other time because well, we'll be over here by then. So I'm going to be through very busy doing But of course it has been nightmarish getting everything In in place for all these efaps recently. They're big long boys and we're still recording hatch ups um We're well ahead of schedule on efaps as well. So You know lots of stuff to sort out no efap movies. I'm afraid not we're not gonna. I've knocked all the time This is an impossibility. I can't get it done in time I'm so seary But we'll have a Christmas episode come Yes, we can so Yeah, that's that's that I suppose. Um, like I said, uh, I'll collect up all the super chats and we will be dealing with them For sure. Thank you all so much For the kind donation for the company for the discussion back and forth and so concludes the ragnarok Next time we might be talking about avatar might be talking about and or Talking about whatever else is coming out. Who knows? In any case, we shall see you all there Little bit everybody. Bye everybody Bye. See you later. Ciao