 Welcome back. Thank you so much for hanging up with us right here on why in the morning you are still hanging up with us on the hashtag where in the morning everywhere on all our social media platforms. Soon as at Patapale Facebook, Instagram and on Twitter as well is at Y254 channel. And our social media zongo ni Brian Sako 101. And onto our MCM segment today right now we are going to talk about matters in relationship and the question is by the way Katia honestly love and money. Ni gani na make relationship in a kwa strong sana especially right now. I don't know about you but I love to hear your feedback on that on our social media platforms. Katia honesty love and money. Gani na make relationship in a kwa strong sana especially right now in this current generation we are living in. I don't know. I love to hear from you and joining me live right in studio with us right now. They have been here before last week and we said we must continue this conversation is Nyakwanch Daniel who is a second year political science student at the University of Nairobi and then we've got John Odwar who's a media practitioner as well. Thank you gentlemen and welcome back. Good morning. Sasa ah let's get into this interesting topic. Ah ok kwa relationship manze kuna kuna factors flannies na fanya relationship in a flourish and it's not necessarily that ita ita kuna script flannies that usupofanyaivi ita ndekuivi. Lazumei kwa your own personal experience and journey nba ita fanyai. You learn from each other. You're meeting this new person. You must learn from them and also they learn from you so that you guys can come together. Mwa agrimisemei now. This is what we are going to do to ensure that relationship here to in a flourish in this current generation. What exactly can we do to ensure that you know our relationship see necessarily take a romantic. Naja most people can mention relationship. Is about dating marriage even it could be a relationship between you and your you know your employer as well. So to keep it going to keep it afloat. What exactly do you think to na zafanya? Alright. And then in a lingana relationship in a gani. Love relationship that's requires money. Add it to money. And then it requires honesty. Work relationship requires pure honesty and good work and dedication. Like in a lingana relationship type gani. Ya. Right. Factors in a vari kulinana relationship. Ya. Coexperiencianko una dani ninili fanya relationship puli kwa na in the past Ika flourish ama Ika feel. First is dishonesty. Disonesty. Ya it's not all about money just dishonesty. Ya. So who is dishonest? Both of you are dishonest to each other ama ama the partner nadi wala kwa dishonest. I think the partner nadi wala kwa dishonest. More dishonest. Leave me use that term. Okay. But why her? I know it to you. Ya. You know there is this factor kuna vi too. Sometimes kuna una taka kwa relationship puna. There is something you want. There is this perception you created. I'm looking for a lady who is like this and this. So if you can't get what you want it will force you to quit the relationship. Right. Let me throw it back to you Mr. Daniel. What are some of the factors that tunaza sink to ensure manzema relationships that is in a flourish? Tina sisa li zil kwa romanticadi za kikazi ki familia. Kwa watu pigana badawe? Watu kwa sana gina ajaya unge le shana for long? Nani wako oku relatedome tokani. Onea sema ni brother sama siblings wa tokani tokia. Onea chuki ana ajaya unge. Ujeskia story ama sayana sema e misjaya unge na seize tangu si due 20 since 1990 ajaya unge. Ju wali pigana tu. Na ukia unge le some of the things that led to the fallout. Actually so many like so tiny little things when you unge sit down unge have conversation na relationship yaw indole tu saa? Just have the same way you say generally about relationship it is about biblical it is about love. Yes so we read that love conquers all ya. So the same way you mentioned the family issue if you both of you didn't grow in love then there's no way both of you will retain that love when you are adults now. Now maybe other relationships I think just the brother said it is about honesty because you can love someone but you're not honest in the end when all the things you said is not honest then it is it is nothing so it will it won't proceed. All right. Ya a pesa pesa zema kwa linked to like the basis of most relationships nowadays especially kianza kudet apose setu kwa romantic relationship okidogo uta realize I don't know if it affects the other gender the most but uta realize like money is like the main atutas kiamza kisema even families uta elu e om tu manya na toka kwa a stable financial background uta kima sikini and then piki kuna that issue like you know okia om tu akona pesa you're likely to also be a part of the world. Do you think in afanya in a disenfranchised world to tu akua lazy I can go jam tu manya akona pesa aku jam wa ama o leki kumitu akona pesa So flushing back money is a flavor I think so in a relationship money is a flavor it is a supplement so when we flash back those people were someone who is 60 or 70 years old now they used to come from nothing that those are the taikus we say we see right now those are the millionaires right now so we can copy from someone as long as we both love each other then you know your dream then you know what you want then you can build up together from nothing so it is not it is not all about money because money sincerely if you're dating the gender let me say the ladies if you're dating a lady who has got money and you don't have a man as a man then there's no respect you at least you need to be somewhere so even a lady has a money then you can stand on your own not being supported with the other gender because biblically it is for men to be the head and to be the head of the family and be responsible to take care of the other gender Right John there's a song there's an R&B I think it's a soul R&B song that says no romance without finance do you think that you know that song is true it doesn't even give you the soundtrack about what you know like kama ona pesa senyongileshi kama see business staki sinipi giyosini tekst into some extent it's not true to some extent it's true kuna watu the you will appreciate the little you have the struggle but you will still grow together there is these other people also they just want money they want extreme money so in a lingana situation and the expectation of your partner they'll date you because you have well they'll date you because you have money so what they want from you is just your money there's these other humble people outside here innocent girls they'll date you just because they want love from you because they want you to grow together so it's varies and then I'm also agreeing with my friend money is just a component that will spice love I remembered something speaking of spicing love they say behind every successful man is a beautiful powerful prayerful kwanza prayerful prayerful is the word here is it true behind every successful man is a powerful prayerful woman financially stable woman or just literally a beautiful woman it's true because there's so many guys outside here it doesn't mean that a woman will be just behind a successful man they'll be just these women whom he love no we have our mothers also or they are behind us they are praying for us so even behind successful man there's behind successful man there is a woman so you see necessarily atini love love mani bibi mani girl ah sometimes it's our prayer warriors or prayer masters or mothers yeah have you ever had a very supportive let's say mama platform your mom because I remember the last discussion you mentioned that your mom prays for you a lot have you ever met like a lover who's supportive when you understand say yes behind every sex apart from my mom my love always yeah I think how did it go and how did you feel okati you know you receive the support and you are like flourishing it's doing well okay let me throw it back to you Daniel is it true yeah it is true yes I have apart from my mom yes I have um he's a doctor right now he's the one like he loves she loves me so much and I love her so much so she's the one responsible for my education so it's all it's not all about mani it's all about if someone is prayerful the same way you have said and also me for my experience what I've seen and engaged with some youths na kumuka ilegru pizavidja na kilimta na patiana experience would advise kilimta na patiana just look at prayerful woman then you will be successful because kiyangalia or what what let's start from our president rikadiji gachagwa those people are talking about my wife always pray day and night so I think pray is the powerful thing right let's come back to love as in how do you tell that napendo koe relationship because kona kuna so many stories as well as you know so many signs zenez na onyasha e wumtoa niprenda na asi necessari lietitumenda date, ama so I'd just like to know as a man from a man's perspective how do you tell that this lady loves me so much this fine babe is killing me with love I think being there for you being there for you na manisha she's supporting your hustle she's advising you she's standing with you kona so many factors sick, paya pesa na ju sometimes atukiamuka subiya kwa mbe ah bebleu na kwa poa you'll just feel like wow napendo bebleu na umechoko merudika umechoka how can I help you wow napendoa so kuna so many things kuna long calls conversations and then kuna also correcting you apa ufanya poa apa you we should do it this way and then kuna some advices we should do this we should invest so utafiltu kumbe apa apa ni kama napendo and then na ju kuna kwa the other side also from her apapia seependu isana italigana na story so na ambiwa and then na ju sometimes communication is key make up po three days she's not checking on you kama uja text she's not texting kama uja tuma good morning good morning our party like crickets yeah u go to apu to when you wanna call when you wanna text you know to some extent utafil it's draining you utafil like ah umutu kwa ni shidanini you'll just feel I'm not loud but you'll be okay mukha subui I'm gonna say ayu awwe kumia mukha beb ni takwa musha like give me your plan for the day give me your plan for the week so like utafiltu na pendu yeah it's not necessarily man yeah when you know it sometimes I will tweetage your pesasana and not to me your pesasana just be there for us and support you our hasu yeah being there being present and supporting the hasu before we come back to I want I really like to know from you both of y'all the love language your man like inakwa ga gani specifically most common but before we get to man's love language ataka let me throw it back just want to ask something exactly you've the brothers talk about supporting your hasu what do you mean by lady supporting your hasu lady supporting your hasu is like see kuna kitu na fanya right there is a hasu all you are doing right the supporting your hasu hasu lady can give you money sometimes lady can just tell you rectifying you apa uja fanya poa kama kuna utu anyu na fanya content creating na kwa mbe ya no for this content na feel to ifanya evi ama unge ifanya evi inge toka poa kabisa kuna guys gua street wana huza na kwa mbe ya palika muna huza smoky su unge zei cha po apukandu like kuna advices muto kiki kwa mbe ya you will just feel this person is supporting my hasu like okay ya no degrading kwa nza mi uti mbe ya tao na feel place na una boya na huza smoky na demiya kia ko apukandu sometimes ame toka class ame kuchakum sa idea like you feel ya anana kama this these are two love birds meant to be together for you ya talking about that I have no experience ma mbo na love bird what I do here some when are you when are you going to experience love bro come on ya so this is this is the way you had people saying muta na pigiwa tu muta kitakap dema kitakap e sende na pigiwa when your brother me say anamuka subu this is no good morning umesindaji so iki fika ili day ame shiku maali na do anata kapes sende uta pigiwa e na ume pote wuko aji aki nime nime kuma maali nifani efe favor any time for favor niduna onakul so I think that is money based I'm supporting kuna was saying okuna they are messages G3 message okuna siku ame kutek that is money that's the money kuna watu tuki kuteks to collect e umutu ame ni text and then the first message atakuja na nasaika text the first one the second was the third one please I do me a favor favor gani yuki mulizatu which favor ati sende kapesha like 3,000 onajua we boys tuki kapesha ladies like what I shan ingumu so is like unam peya tu fo desekia kumpeya let's come back to love language and I had mentioned what what are some of the things that we do to appreciate our better house ame to send me to some of the moves we make to actually give them some little assurance kuwambia kumba bibi gal na kupenda ame ni kifanyivi in as much as I would just say ame I love you baby ame I love you babe at least you move in our nyesha that this is love and I think it varies from different men as well as different women because everybody has their own love language I'd really like to know yours and compare it with Daniels I think I think mine he could introduce kuwamboki like my friends there is this confidation onajua kuna kumtu kilamsana kumana your cycle so like when I introduce you to my small cycle like it's feel like na kupenda that's why I'm introducing you to these guys kumunana we are just there but I'm not I'm not introducing you to the group it's like ota ni aibisha na yo group so time ni anza kuku introduce kuwami group my family am comfortable with you so that's for you that's another love language but you know apo enja kuna jamaweni biniwata treat them like what our pelika kuwiniwe that's also their love language all right yeah kuna wase wakipelika demi church and I'm introduced to their church that's also a love language so ina lingana umsa na piyame reliwa aje and then ina linganda ude manata kani na ju kuna wase we're just dating like for the sake of dating we're just dating for enjoyment so you piya kuna different love language all right yeah Daniel so the taste of love to me I think you just have to appreciate your wife or your girlfriend surprise her and also after appreciation just compliment her then finally wukijiwa now this is the one now take her to your mum his mum is alive at a feel like at a feel like I think head is out of this is it my surprises and I don't know you must have a two surprises so do you come on I'm a surprise gang I'm on on I don't know surprises let me to me a lady who loves you doesn't need big surprises just appreciate your maybe umba ye kata ata kama kangu desa kujetu home aparte umba yungu maybe 4,000 3,000 sit umba yungu okay ye ye zoe ananda fanya shopting yaw 100 yungu ju madem manabai yungu chipsan ubangu zaw ni chipsan so kikujiwa you think so you think man goza madem ni chipan ganzanen no no okay men wan ni manu zaw ni chipe expensive san so u dema kikujiwa aparte home elengu wawana ona ki pita na she cannot afford that aparte umem surprise na ye I think she will feel very very loud I'm supporting in sentiment I see it among we are 4,000 nonulia baby girl chocolate ye 230 now I see what you're doing ye nonulia baby girl creeps ye 170 nonulia baby girl these small small things to saa saa too smart pelikem surprise I think is a small surprise surprises piya wazina ni ni nia lot they meant a lot to some ladies outside here ita baby mama out kidogo kidogo man dem tembe na lingana na pesiako na fukuako kumunaiza enda kutembe kiki place learning to puwa chil pige story na joa you also will increase the bonding the bonding ita ita kuwa ita grow like because tamuna chil the conversation will be there she will open up kuna vitu you will start learning from her that you don't know create time for her na joa you time also nanil you are reacting talking about taking a lady out we have some ladies with the this personality of me but I don't know how to out her to chil tu na to kaitu to kunyue tu ama to watch to netflix too netflix thank you so how can you define such a way because you can't learn that itu dora personality but lady mukenda out you know you think so you think you can't learn that no no no why why why why because to say me me chil kwenyumbama me kakwenyumbama that story he mentioned communication the kind of story the kind of discussion wu de mata kwa na discuss aki ona kila kitu social media aki ona kitu na watch obvious uta joa too the mindset here wu de kika atwevo so in short you uta kuna I am so much yeah but I've heard I've heard people go on house debts it works I don't know it works in the modern day world like instead of us going to a restaurant spending money why can't we spend that cash in the house we cook and we do the Netflix and cheer in the mansion I think that is a wife now you feel like that is a wife material she don't want I'm supporting his sentiment from different perspective first I must know the type of person I'm dating I must know what he likes and what he doesn't like that is is simple as that so lezima niju umtu onapenda she's outgoing anapenda kwenda he's in an outdoor event kuna mtu onapenda kwa kuna watu intro but they don't like even socializing with people so I must know I must be in a position to know wu umtu onapenda inai that's when you can supply someone with chocolate na apendi chocolate yeah but they lezima niju umtu onapenda so kitu onasimapia is that means you spend time to know her yes the likes and dislikes that's what I mean I must know the lady I'm dating kuna watu apendi kutoka kumambia toke kumambia mtu toka mibia da one you'll end up going out six at amtai enda ya at amtai enda takwa apu anava inguwa na toa fanyi ya fanyi lai kataki tuna izikwambia I don't want kuna matimata kwa socialize na your friends aizia izika apu wu kenda na mabesh teki jania takwa na lala so lezima niju onapenda but some I'm on him to introvert I'm on to say my next as in learning even personalities of your love as well before even priorities and the things you want to do for her is very important ya so yo kitu amesa matimuna kanae muna uch muvi nininini that's also will help you to learn okay even going out and interacting with people will help you to learn mua about her jubutas kia her sentiment about people about some reactions na jusa ikuna kitu mtuake fanyi and then uniambia umutana kai vivial bila okay this is your perception about this character this is your perception about this character kuna watu nizukutana beshteko nuna una beshteko and me itisha food na una skia kikwambia u beshteko se na kula sana that's also you will such this learning and it's kulea watu evi u beshteko se na umba sana like so you will get to know them even before you introduce them to your family right ya I remembered something kuna there's a I think there's a motivation speaker a Kenyan motivation speaker Kwanongila Asturia men who come from broken homes or literally he was using a black american example where most black american men this is men now are still learning how to treat you know women because they come from broken homes where you know there was no father or those lack of both of them or those one and because they grew up in a single parent home setup they only go to see how you know to be with a woman that is maybe from a single mothers perspective or maybe if she's a lady she only go to see how to be with a father or maybe since she's a she grew up with a single mother she only knows how to be with women she doesn't know how to treat a man how to you know act in front of a man in terms of relationship because in fact that knowledge was not ingrained in her while she was growing up so she also ends up being a single mother or you also end up being a single father because it led the conscious energy that was supposed to grow in you while you're being born haiku kwa just because your father was not there and then after she he went ahead and mentioned the story of sexuality and what not which you're not going to talk about do you feel like even it's still an issue with us here in Africa where young men we come from broken homes where there was no father or there was no parent at all and haiku kwa placeku get into a relationship it becomes even 10,000 times hard because first of all how do you how to be romantic how do you kadiza and by the time you are learning it it's around 35 40 which I'm not saying is an old age but at least time in man but by the time you are learning from you know experiences so it becomes do you feel like in a contribute also to like you know treating man and women badly in relationships I think it's a big challenge we are facing as as as as as as as as Africa in Africa because even our method how the way we are being raised in latinale lewa also it's affecting our relationship because give you an example of these families we can say a violent family Ya, kuna so many people in your family are all along you make watu wita wita wita wita. At the experience of the romance, the romantic, they is kwa familiar yao. So the perception are from the family. Ni ileha, men are big, are dogs, men are this this way. Men are not good people, men are not meant to be loved. So you need perception. By the time, at the outside the world, anze kulaan ita kwa late to somehow late to accept. Zingidezim affect even the marriages of other people, because of their past experience. Wawe mamakwa li kuna treat babakuevi. You get this fine man. Treating him is very difficult, because you won't understand him, because of your past experience, or your past perception. Kuna watu watu familiar yao, amada yao family, yeme create perception, awatu niwa baya, wana fagu treati wa iwi. Nani ivo. Nani ivo. So easy change. And then onjiwa iniki tu, amelelewa from age one, ya ni middle age liwa, alikwa born into that space, nani ivo. There is this story, inil kwa ina ran, ati kuna, watu iniwa amelelewa church li, maybe god li. Na familiar me kwa very nice family, baba awan, walu kuna pendana, the family, the parents walu kuna pendana. And so kuna nukuna, the best girlfriends, ama the best wives. Because, wami wana they are somehow, Ladies only, ama even both. Both. They are somehow submissive. Onajiwa, they are somehow submissive. Onajiwa kumu melelewa, kama mimu na jua ni melelewa, na sija yao na, babangu ataki kuma nisha mamangu. I can tell you for sure. Wow amazing. Sija yao na, I know wana kuma na, they are difficult moment. But atu jaya experience, experience, these, they normally hide it from us. You just know, leo, walu kuna some problems. Siu na jo wana jo wami kwa yu family. But atu awana waki jibiana mamutua kita, maybe wana sotizu issues, adu kwa wana nuna ni kama atu, they have glumifes, kuna issue apa, but uta esgi. So mi piya, also, ni mi rest, ni kijua, atu feiku gumbana, atu kama tukuna issue melewa, atu toe etu. We'll go and sort our issues behind the curtains. Atu kama kuna difficult moment. So ageni waki kuchetu feiku gumbana, ageni waji weitu nukwa. Issues, we'll sort these issues after. So, our parents are our first teachers. Right, too. Yeah, our parents are our first teachers. How do you want to emulate? We copy from them. We just copy, pasting. Taking that character. Natu na naji. Even the Bible says, your first God is your mum and your dad. Like they literally tell you how to, you know, understand the things of the world and if the first person to disappoint you is your guardian, then it means that chain of disappointment has already been established. Let me throw it back to you, my guy, Daniel. Do you feel like, now differently, away from what we were talking about, when it comes to money, especially in most established relationships, utakuta, if the mama is walking and the guy is walking, it would realize most of the money being spent near the guy, a lot, and they say, you know, a woman's money is her money and a man's money is everybody's money. Is it a good thing, by the way, from your experience? I think it, for someone to experience that in marriage, then there was a starter. It started from somewhere. It will start when maybe both of you are dating. So for you to avoid that, you will experience this. When you are dating, just ask her, what do you, like when you are dating, maybe this lady was not even supporting you, like the brother said. She's not even supporting you, where you go up, you are dating, just people are dating. So if a lady can support you, by the time badum go down, then just be sure, when both of you are earning, you will make good money, your money. I remember something, from my community, let me give you a good example, from my community, if you want to marry according to community customs. Well, one can say, that you must identify the family you want to marry from. Yeah. Kama nili family, yata otwame kwa kijinyonga, you should not marry from that family, you kuna iyo anger, kuna iyo family. It's a pattern, they say a curse. Yes, a curse from that family. Kama kuna iyo family, manini, they are first bonds. Kama, senani last bond, na they have three first bonds wajaholeka. You should not marry from that family, because the elder sister, will influence also your wife. So in a manisha, your wife along the way pyana is a kuwacha. So, walu kuna pyana iyo periodia courtship, dating period also, to know the best person you want to marry, to learn more from their family. Kuna ikitu tunasamanga the nitranas, especially, kitu walu kuna pyana, walu kuna nini example. Right. You should not marry from a nitrana family. If you are families, you are not nitranas, because amutawakumode. So, let me kuna courtship, duration, to know, to learn more to know the character of the family, to dig deep from the other side family. Right. Yeah. Because marriage is a lifetime thing. Okay. I'm told we should close it up by now, but let me just ask, I'd love to hear your sentiments on this one. Two seconds each. Katia honesty and love na pesa. Gani indo inafai equals so strong in the relationship. Let me start with you John, as you also say your social media handles. I think honesty will bring love. When I'm honest to you, that means I love you. Money will spice the love. So we require both. So we need both? Honesty? Yeah. We need honesty, love. And money will spice the love. Wow, I love that. I love that. Your social media? Jono Diambu Facebook. TikTok at Jono Diambu. Twitter at Jono Diambu. Right. Daniel, what should be the first priority in a relationship? Biblically, just love. If someone loves you, he will always be honest. Won't cheat you or hide anything. Because this is someone who won't want to hurt you. So love conquers then honesty follows. Money, I can't talk about money. Money is just a supplement. Yeah, it's just a supplement. Yeah. And I love that. You say it's a supplement. Your social media is to exit before I get to the comments. Yes. Nya kwachi Daniel Facebook and Twitter only. Nya? Nya kwachi Daniel. Nya kwachi Daniel. Yeah. Nya kwachi Daniel. Okay. Idi nade. All right. Teru kutumaku Lisa Paale social media. Katia honesty, love na money. Ni gani na make relationship equal strong sana. And just to sample some of your feedback. All right. Good morning. Katia honesty, love na re na pesa. Gani na fanya strong na kwa. Gani na fanya relationship equal strong. Hei. Aha. Kuna mitua niktua Miss Brenda na sema Pesa sabuni ia roho. Pesa sabuni ia roho. Peris mudoni na sema that's Facebook or Twitter. That should be Twitter, I guess. And I say my reply. And I say my both zikofiti. Tenam peris mudoni kwa sema paale chini love and money. And then some Brian kwa sema nikama hakuna these daughters who easy way. All right. That is from some Brian ranger. And then kuna papairiko na sema pesa sana sana. Hmm. I see what you're doing right there. Bosco klasikia na sema money and money glory. Okay. Sao sao. Lamek o ma riba na sema kutoka kisi muya mono kutoka kisi marani with my wife, vero love fallen. Thank you so much Lamek for watching. And then kuna John Magondo na sema some of us are struggling with relationships as if it is in the 10 commandments. My goodness. They see what you're doing right there. Aha. Habat maniuma na sema money high five kwa katikati options like honesty and love. Those two are priceless and a difference between them to akonazo na monehana nikubo sana. Okay. And then holy moz. Na sema main factor. Honesty. And I love the fact that my panelists want me to say ma piya honesty should be the first item with Kenyan tax collector money. Okay. I've seen you what you're doing. Yagotchi sti na sema apparently it strong. Okay. Vini ukotuna jena modya like Jay-Z and Beyonce. Na sema relationship EP moanzo. Okay. Maybe financial let's say romantic because mostly to mongela romantic. And then fiesta filomena pita na sema when you have money I love you and be honest to you. Hey. Akio ewe. Akio ewe. Watcha. And then kuna Brian Bondia na sema these are three different questions. Hey. Akio ewe. Okay. And then Kenboy Evans na sema money is everything love wins Shikuzote Shidani Pesa that is what Mashem Regan then Gash Yulem Kuit na sema love na kekapo love emoji piya Jennifer Mosho na sema paletini love na wukatu papo love emoji. I love it. I love it. I love it. Kevo Karizuna na sema Nairobi good morning honesty na sema apu Raquel Wairima na sema relationship ni ma what those hee. Sao sao. 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