 Sarms should you use them? Watch this our first caller is Wade from Michigan. Wait, what's happening? How can we help you? I? Was actually First of all, I want to appreciate I want to tell you that I appreciate all your insight and everything your podcast It's been really very informative for me, and I don't know can't say enough about you guys. You're fantastic Thank you. I was actually inquiring about myostatin inhibitors I'm curious about there. I know I've done some research on them And I know that there are or there's one in particular that has kind of drawn some interest with people it's called yk-11 and I Don't know a lot about myostatin. I know the antagonist is full of statin in your body and basically if you have lower Myostatin and you're able to produce larger muscle mass Can you guys share any insight on that? So you want to look like one of those whip-it dogs? Yeah, okay, so here's what's interesting about well first off This is a wonderful example of the the what the supplement industry likes to do when science comes out so years ago there was kind of this Discovery that if you if you inhibit myostatin and they did this pharmaceutical or they did this genetically with animals You get this kind of runaway muscle growth and there were these really dramatic pictures of mice, you know that were that had their myostatin inhibited or cows or dogs and it was like It was like a bodybuilder's wet dream I mean it made steroids it made steroids look like vitamin C in terms of just absolutely It's almost like a holy grail, you know, it kind of seems that it's crazy Now here's the problem the problem is the supplement industry saw this research and they quickly went into how can we market? Supplements that will promise to do the same thing so far Okay, now here's the truth creatine inhibits myostatin to a degree Loosene amino acid loosene can inhibit it to agree to a degree Resistance training will inhibit myostatin to a degree anything that helps promote muscle growth will inhibit myostatin to a degree Is there anything out there legally available? That will inhibit myostatin anywhere near the neighborhood of what the studies done on animals You know showed no, there's nothing that comes even close to that now you just referred to a Selective androgen receptor modulator like a research chemical And it really it's you know It's it's inhibition of myostatin is similar to what you'd find by taking Anything that activates the androgen receptor like testosterone or anabolic steroid. I my my firm belief around psalms is They're not researched very much. They're not approved for human consumption We don't know what they do long term And if you're gonna go that route if you're gonna use something that's not approved for human use And I'm not recommending you do this either But if that's the direction you go you're much better off getting yourself some anabolic steroids or testosterone because they've been around forever We know what they do. We know what they don't do Psalms we're still kind of up in the air and I have yet to see any psalm that even comes close To what like testosterone would do but but besides that it really there's nothing natural on the market That's gonna do it like I said creatine Working out, but there's really nothing you're gonna take naturally. It's gonna do anything that's substantial Didn't we even speculate for a while like there's a lot of by builders going to Kuwait And then coming back just insanely jacked and We asked Ben Pekolsky about this right and he he just exclaimed that they had everything dialed in like To a degree where their food was all prepped for them their sleep was all regimented their you know Pharmaceutical grade testosterone was like one of the best, you know around so it was you know Literally they just like stacked everything perfectly In that environment. Yeah, I mean again, I would I would stay away from Any, you know, psalm or anything that's really not approved These are kind of experimental pharmaceutical drugs drugs some of them that people were using early on now We're finding oh probably not great for your liver or can cause issues with your vision or your or or cancer So I would stay away from them and again if you're gonna go that route where you're gonna start experimenting with Pharmaceuticals, I mean testosterone and anabolic steroids have been around for decades We know what they do what they don't do you're better and they're gonna give you better results But I don't even recommend obviously. I don't recommend that either as far as Concerned nothing's gonna nothing's gonna do anything wait wait. Are you are you in our mind pump hormones group by chance? In my what we have a we actually have a mind pump hormones group. Are you in that by chance? No? I'm not. No, okay. It's a free group. It's on Facebook. You should totally join it This is there's great. Okay, there's great conversation around psalms and testosterone and all that stuff Really smart people in there. Yeah. No, we have two brilliant doctors hormone doctors in there And so the grape and they they actually twice a month go on and do live Q&A's We could ask him anything you want and they're they're answering everybody. That's in the audience So super valuable totally free to you. I would recommend doing that And you can also always rest assured that if there's something that that's this groundbreaking that comes out and hit Some market you'll hear it on here probably first. I mean Sal's on every you know deep web black market, you know supplement forum that exists And he's always scouring the internet for what's the latest and greatest and coming out and he normally like a guinea pig We'll test himself So we'll definitely be on the front end of anything that comes out And I promise that we'll let our audience know if anything worth Trying or taking hits and Wade is 100% right if a true Effective myostatin inhibitor Comes out like one that really inhibits myostatin not one that inhibits it kind of like you know like on the like as a side Effect like creatine or whatever but one that really does an effective job We will all hear about it because it will be oh, absolutely. Yeah, it will it will it will make anabolic steroids obsolete literally you'll see 300-pound, you know point guards in the in the NBA It will be like nothing like we've ever seen before Based off of these you know initial animal studies by the way, there's there's side effect myostatin exists for a reason So it's not like it'd be this panacea where you take it. Oh, I build muscle no side effects It's probably it's probably gonna come along with its own issue 20 years off your life Maybe right or your heart gets all big too or something like that. So hope that helps you Right well, I do I do know that there is one When they when they actually tested the mice that there were some issues with their tendons and bones as well Yeah, you know your body kind of naturally regulates itself to the point to where your tendons and bones can actually hold that amount of Yeah, and even look at even with anabolic steroids You'll see people take high doses and the muscles will grow much faster than the support system So you'll see tears and issues In muscle tears or tendon tears or ligament tears Because those parts of the body take longer to build and to strengthen so but besides that there's other side effects Right, there's other things that we start to see down the road, but I mean again testosterone and anabolic I mean testosterone obviously it's what we already produce like some of the old-school Anabolics that have been around I've been around since the 50s 60s You know like they haven't really come out with any newer ones in a long time And we know what they do and what they don't do largely because they've been around for a long time these arms I mean the one you mentioned. I don't think there's a single human study like so No, there there is and I did a lot of research on that. There's a there's one other guy that Did a podcast on it. It was like 18 minutes long. It was pretty extensive research, but there's really no human study at all No, and you know just cuz something I you know attaches to the Andrews your receptor And we think oh cool, you know, it's gonna activate these anabolic androgenic, you know responses And it's gonna take away the you know, maybe the negatives of testosterone like we don't know We don't know what they do long term. We don't we don't know yet. So until that until we know I'm not gonna recommend. I'm gonna tell people stay away Right, absolutely. All right. Thanks Wade. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah Yeah Yeah, I mean it's it's fun. We do look at all this weird crazy stuff And I get it like, you know, I'm this is coming for me But you know be careful because you don't want and I remember there's one side I remember the name of Sarm. I forgot what it was but I remember people were right we're writing in the forums this when I was reading about them I mean years ago when they first came out and people were like, yeah, it's really cool But after about six weeks you start to lose tail. No, like you start to lose your night vision at night It's harder to see. I'm like what the hell But I gained five pounds of muscle If you can't see it who cares, you know, I mean, yeah, no, it's you know, it's Sarms are like super. I mean they've been popular since we've been talking about it Right like I remember when it first came on the scene But it ain't slowing down and there's start there's people that have podcasts dedicated to it now And that's all they talk about and people hustling. You know reminds me of you know this because you're in the cannabis market Do you remember how popular? Synthetic like cannabinoid remember like spice or whatever. Oh, yeah, and then kids were overdosing and shit Like you can't overdose on weed right turn the zombies but why because it was legal You know because Psalms are available online. Yeah, that's why they're popular because they don't even do what testosterone does They don't even come close the only reason why people are using them is because they're afraid to go buy black market Anabolic and that's the part. That's so funny. I mean I get it though because I was a I was a young 20-year-old kid Who was thought the same thing to like I was willing to take every Experimental thing as long as it wasn't steroids. Yeah, then I could say I didn't I'd never touched steroids I never touched steroids, but it's like I'm trying all this other stuff I just did all the rejects. Yeah, all the all the stuff that's as dangerous make potentially more dangerous And they sell you on the idea that they're not and so it's like oh man Bro that mentality is why I use like super drawl method master like all these pro hormones turned out to be designer steroids So it's like waste of time right Hey, if you enjoyed that clip you can find the full episode here Or you can find other clips over here and be sure to subscribe