 Don't boss talk one on one here. We're gonna talk. We're gonna have fun. We'll be on fire. We'll be lately It's a unique husband. Check it. Check it. Check it. It's unique house. It's your boy ECO and I'm here with the lovely amazing official Miss Jamaica. Let's go on on walk on you know, my dad already man. Hey, man We got a guy here today y'all. He really don't need no introduction. This guy right here a man You know, if you see him at the imprompt. He gonna say something that he shouldn't be saying when you walk in with He gonna just go to talking craze and say man, you ain't nothing to you any money like nigga What is you doing bro? Talk to her the niggas here y'all he talked his way up on the set Y'all would never guess who this is man black runners in the building man. What's going on man? See I don't even like I don't like how you presented people But tell the truth then I mean, you know, you know, I'll just say that that was a unique narrative Did it happen or did it not help I mean when you when you say it like that is the way how you say that's what he said It ain't the facts. It's the way you presented Okay, give me your perspective. Okay, so I'll say it Man, let's get on with the show man. Come on. Let him say his narrative trying to kill this nigga You see how you do Thank you so much for coming on the show for me. I didn't do it for you Say listen, man, I'm gonna be honest with you. I was really like dang was this dude that really go just Just gonna bump on me and then my photographer This dude this videographer guy. He said man, that's black He was on me man so ever didn't so I went did my research man and found out that night man dope show man Appreciate you and she go beam man. I ain't gonna lie man, you know It's certain shows I've watched Eric when people invite us down and that was one to be remembered man The way you you kept the the crowd involved, bro, you know, I'm saying yeah, you really really put it down You know and and you know what you're doing. This is a gift I remembered you from back over in I think it would be Soto or Duncan be a which one Duncan be on and you was over there legend. Yeah, man Man, that's a long time ago too long time ago. We came a long way from legends, baby I know right back to the improv You see that we went all the way around the world with the comedy all the way around the world boss talk come all the way back To the improv and this nigga still don't know Let's go baby. Come on. Get him. So where were you born and raised? Oh Clif Oh Clif Oh, I know you were saying that the other day. So what part of a cliff? Well, okay So came up born in singing Hills Came up in a little bitty area right off of Keese and Cockery Hill known as Western Park If you know about it, you know about it, you know, I'm saying did my two litch over at Kimber High School Talking about matriculated over the El Centro did graduated from middle college high school class 2003 After that took up residence over in the little part of town on this red bird You understand what I'm saying got a little thugging and a little bit of bug in the end over there often We're smaller than Wheatland streets. You feel me? And then after that had a child in 2011 starting my comedy career in 2011 and the rest is history in the making Yeah, I'm gonna get back into that but I want to ask you so growing up I'm sure you didn't want to be a comedian as a kid growing up, right? No Nobody wants to be a comedian at first. Okay But you have a gift for gap is not even as a kid, right? Or were you a shy kid? No, never never a shy Never was a shy kid. So if you have a gift for gap, tell me about a time where? Maybe you were about to get into a fight or you were about to somebody was harassing you or whatever You had to use that gift to get out of my gift for gab has gotten me in fights Tell me tell me give me a story. Okay. I'll give you a story about the last fight I got into when was that last week? No, no, no, we don't fight no more Okay, just checking cuz y'all are talking about y'all were talking about that earlier. I fight cases not people. Oh, okay So when I was still engaging in pugilism, you know, I'm saying a fan of the fista cuffs as it were I was 22 years. Oh, I'm okay. I never get What what was J mother's day? I think it was mother's day Two guys try to find a mother's day. It was either mother's day or Easter. I want to say it was mothers. Okay So came home that Sunday afternoon Ain't got nothing to do. Don't nobody feel like playing basketball We just gonna go over to my partner grip stayed in the same apartment complex We're gonna smoke blunts play dominoes bullshit the rest of the day away Get over there. He already got company over there It's one of his partners and his partners og Okay, and they old ladies Okay, everybody over there having a good time. They plan uno at first. We switch from uno to the dominoes Okay on the domino table. I'm finding ass up I happen to have mastered in dominoes while attending gremlin state But before that I was already good cuz I'm from old cliff Everybody from old cliff can play domino pretty much pretty much that we can either fight run fast or play dominoes Oh, you get one of them skills. Just it's coming the water. Okay through out of a five mile creek But anyway, um, so I'm whooping that ass on them dominoes quite effectively. Okay, so he won't start roasting That's also something that we all are proficient at down in old cliff Texas We'll roast the her off your back. We're we on your ass like back pockets I'm talking about we we all quit it quick He won a roast. Okay. He didn't know that I'm good at this. Okay Turn that ass up, but he in front of his old lady and his og He can't lose he shouldn't have started it now. Why just grown ass man Still had a a growner man that he considered his og Up around him and felt the need to impress him. I don't know But You see, you know Mr. Maker, you just seen it whenever Two dudes are roasting back and forth arging back and forth doing anything Competition wise back and forth in front of a woman and he go So now he want to start flexing on me So I'm tearing his outfit up So he go whatever nigga. I got a pocket full of money I found we'll take some of that money and go buy yourself some style And that's when his old lady started laughing And that's the way and that's when that nigga snapped He come across the table come around the table and I'm standing there and I'm smoking the square And I'm laughing because I'm killing you and we having a good time I didn't think it was finna get violent until he got violent And he was like whatever nigga say something else and I'll bush in your mouth And I looked at a man dead in his face and I said something else and I hit the square Again, I looked off to blow the smoke because I wasn't going to blow it in his face. So I ain't Disrespecting you. I'm just tying your ass up pause. So As I look off and he hits you he fired off Now he five nine five eight Two farted He stuck it with it. He swung with all his might He thought that was going to be enough to clean me up I'm sitting here having a in in a dialogue. Like did this nigga just hit me? While I'm asking myself this question, he let go of another one foul. I say that nigga did just hit us twice He get rid of fouls the third one. Hey, you ain't you ain't even gotten on the floor with them punches I haven't even gotten into the fight with him yet. He fight me all by himself I'm not even in the moment because I'm letting him hit this hit you just like that I'm still rolling off of the fact that I just killed the room so hard. I got your own lady laughing at you So he get rid of the third one because now he mad that I ain't even wobbled stumbled or none of that He didn't got two free clean ones now I went into Super Saiyan mode. I don't remember what happened next in the fight My brother told me to fight later on. He was like, man, I'm sitting there wondering what the fuck wrong with you You just let cool just spar off on you. He's like didn't even got ready to throw the third one And you just weed it or slap that nigga hand down And fed that nigga three of them real real fast now. I remember hitting him and then resetting When I reset he realized oh no, he can fight too Now he won't play football tackle you Now you want to tackle me, but I'm already in the corner and my legs is already up against the chair So there's nothing else. Yeah, so I ain't got nowhere to go So now you want to bull rush me? I end up hitting my head on the microwave Because we we in my pot in the living room right by his kitchen. We tan we fucking furniture I remember we destroyed that man's living room. He had a big ass glass table all of that was fucked up all the chairs so The glass table hit me right here In my I would have threw water in y'all and the microwave hit me right here in the head I remember I remember did it slice you? No, it just left it left a permanent knot Okay, right here, you know what wound so I remember that his old lady my partner who else we was over had just had a baby a few months ago So she was in the back tending to the baby and everything like that She heard all this thumping and rumbling going on in her living room. She come out She screamed she hysterical because we in there really fighting we fighting fight Fight get broke up Now he mad because he ain't win the fighting either You ain't win the roast contest. You didn't lost your pride in front of your old lady I go back to my house because now I won't put on different clothes. I wouldn't even dress to fight Let me go get ready. Let me go get dressed and we can come back over here And do it around too and we can do this for real in this grass and all this earn this opportunity We ain't got we ain't got to get in no corner in the living room in my leg It tangled up in the chair You know like back in back in the cliff everybody mama had these same chairs They was brass and like they had a back on it and then the legs and then the bottom of the legs swooped down Into like a little you and then on the bottom the bottom was connected with a little circle So it was all one little piece. So what nowhere for my leg to go when it got That's the only reason why I was on the ground. Otherwise, I'd have just fed him to leave a fool Standing up But now that we didn't stood and recalibrated come on Let go fight for real and my partner came over there and was like bro I know you don't want to let it go But for me Please let it go Because that nigga there He's not necessarily about that life But the nigga that he with no is really about that life And I don't want that nigga to do something to you trying to impress the nigga that he with So for me, please Let it go And you did Because I didn't lose the fight if I'd have lost I'd have been like here and all fuck that shit I'm back over there. Nick just got to show me But I won the fight and I won the roast There was no reason for me to go back over there other than pride and I had a mean ass not on my And I just want I want dirty your face up like mine is like you you got to leave with a scar too But I left with a lesson Niggas get in they feelings they do you should already knew that but then five years later my comedy career started So then I realized oh That skill that I had that always got me in the face that always got me out of trouble with Principles and police officers and stuff like that, but I always got me into it You know I'm saying with gangsters and other reasons you're practicing. I was holding the skill. I didn't know I had in the bag So where did you get it from your mama daddy? Who was funny everybody? Everybody I'm low-key like the third or fourth funniest person in my immediate family Who's the funniest my daddy is the funniest person in my family? Why? Because he raw like that really just off the dome. My daddy is hilarious My daddy is one of the funniest dudes Because he ain't never lying Like he's being dead ass for real with you But like the way he says stuff is just so for real that you can't help but laugh and but my mama Is like the witty person like my mama gonna say something slick And he's gonna walk off and he's like wait a minute you jam me right then like so like Don't say nothing stupid in front of my mama She's gonna bring that back. Wait, man. You said what you do, huh? Wait me run that back like and then my little brother is actually funnier than me Really is he going into the comedy too? Well, he did stand up for a little bit. Oh For a little bit so he stopped He always had the same name Everything was always you shut up man. I gotta force you to give your brother I was saying it while you were saying give me a shot. I said everything was always asthmatic So shout out to my brother. Oh hell no, he ain't been letting nothing out. Yeah He didn't know that Yeah, that's my biological brother. That's a lot man. I can't get my brother. Do it now. I'm jealous as hell right now No, because we always came up. I can't get my brother Nothing my brother was my first writing partner. My brother was the first soundboard my brother That's how I knew I was funny enough to be on stage We used to sit up at night And play a game called you can't make me laugh Just my brother and I try to be serious. Just my brother and I we supposed to be who lost So this how you play the game you try to be serious No, no one you're supposed to be you're supposed to be in with your ass to sleep But we laying in the bed staring at the ceiling look over like bro. What you want to play you can't make me laugh And now we got to argue for about five minutes over whose turn it was last time we played where last time we left On who turned it was so we argue. So now let's just say it's my turn I'm gonna I'm gonna try to say the funniest things I can The minute you laugh is your turn And we gonna play until we go to sleep Hmm, that's good. I don't care if it's a joke. You just shout out something funny like you got Tourette's For whatever it is You can't make me laugh Because We got a weapon for laughing in church one time Y'all try to mimic the pastor or something. No, no, we got weapons at home for that Because you know old black folks don't like we mock nobody So don't don't don't be mocking nobody especially the past don't don't be mocking the past So we we be a house we we be a home playing Who is this from the church? And then we start doing something that they do like he's gonna shout like sister song So we're gonna fall out like brother song So we're gonna say something that this deacon I always say but we was at church one time And this lady fell During the laying of the hands You know you're gonna get get a little dose of holy ghost get your little dose of that holy ghost but Uh, she had walked up on the pool pit to give the guest pastor something and everything He just grabbed her by her hand and hit her with a little bit of that holy ghost one time and her foot Slipped and didn't catch right there. But what doesn't but the stairs going back down to the congregation that way and she just Right back down to the conversation to the congregation and Everything would have been cooler if we hadn't never looked at each other And how old were y'all? Oh, I want to say we three years apart. So we was probably like eight and eleven Round about that time Like, you know as soon as it hits you you sniggle and your mama say you better not you your mommy talk to a Not She knew y'all gonna laugh about a whole minute went by we thought We had survived it because you know, you look down You snigger a little bit you get yourself together Hmm. All right, I can go back to being Good child and look up in the joy service a little bit Then you look at it And we lost it and we lost it so much there like we couldn't be Contained my mama like all right. That's enough, but it wasn't enough. We got to get a little bit more I'm gonna say that's all right when y'all get home I'm gonna tear it up And she would play nothing fun it in Joke over right there Let me ask you about um your uh Just how how your career started, you know, like in the comedy lane like you you like really like And when I say started you it already started But just meeting with all of these people man to to know the chico beans to know the while in our cast Just to be done the things that you're accomplishing Need to be duly noted. So I mean No, no, no, you let me finish giving you kudos cause like I say I just seeing you, you know In in reform after we had talked at the comedy show, right? I found out that You know, I was talking to a guy that really really was was that guy, you know So I really respect that man and how could I slipped up and not known I supposed to know that You know, I'm saying I'm rocking them boys. Carlos been on here. You know, I'm saying people. I'm been through here Shout out to my Carlos Miller. Uh chico being me. God. They called me like we we know that this is going down over here So them guys mean a lot to me. I should have been up on it. So and Alex Thomas You and him was on the same type show. I should have seen that and I like damn I mean Alex did plenty shows together action. Yeah, Alex is a good one. I had on here Bubba dub one of the that's my guy like For some reason this show Has become a base for the comedians phase on love So I know that so I embraced that because I knew that that was an open lane for that The respect that was due on a noted platform in this market wasn't here So I knew when I went I was going to go get them guys That's why I rolled up on it the way I did because I was like because at first when you were doing boss talk You know, you were interviewing, you know, street cats You know, self-made men Ballers hustlers. So it really wasn't a space for cats in my realm. Yeah, then I look around you got one comedian on here I'm like, okay, that's cool. Cheetah's my yeah, you know, yeah Then you go to jesse. I'm like, you know, you know, jesse handy capable So he might have been doing something for the disables, you know, say do you have country Wayne on here? I'm like, you know country Wayne self-made million. He the first internet You know, you know, there, you know, there's reason but then you start like just all the niggas that work with me But we had phase on before we even had him And then that's what I'm saying. So we got phase on Carlos, Chico, Bubba Doug, Alex, Thomas And I'm like, wait a minute. I just got off the road with half of that list Rungee, rungee, rungee, rungee what was only in town for two days We did it in L.A. We been swapping everywhere Okay, that's crazy We went out without him, don't you? So I hope in some of your homework that you did on me, you went and saw that I got some of the highest views at the lab factory Yeah, I've seen that. That was what I'm saying. That's how me and rungee are cool So I'm like, that's when it started. That's when I started to take it person I'm like, so, so I feel like he I feel like he fucking with everybody but me So, you know, maybe it's cuz maybe it's cuz I never walked up and shook the man hand and told him, you know I like what he's doing, but but in telling you that I like what you're doing my feelings got in But fuck what y'all going on? Why you ain't had me on there, baby? I'm him Cuz I don't like bragging, but I'm low-key the highest decorated black comedian From Dallas and I used to say the highest decorated comedian from Dallas But here lately my man Ralph Barbosa Been tanned it up and he's here in Dallas He's a old cliff native on and he shout out to my essays. That's also just as old cliff as we are Yeah, but I like the Alice Hey I don't care who you feel the name that nigga don't have more credits than me Yeah, yeah And the only credit that I that Ralph has that I don't have It's you know, Jimmy fat. He just performed on Jimmy. Wow, that's big. He just got a write-up in the LA Times That's big. He just got a write-up in variety magazine. That's hard. He just got through beefing with George Lopez You know, I'm saying because over the fact that George pulled the ec He only did nothing to you wrong George didn't know who Ralph was. Oh, that's so they said hey George What you think about the new kid Ralph Barbosa people saying he the next you so he like what a fuck is Ralph Barbosa? Then he asked his assistant. You ever heard of a fucking Ralph Barbosa? I ain't never heard Not knowing that Ralph is the the the the new rising star and he's a latino and he's always looked up to George He's always admired George. So you shit. No one of your On one of your protege and biggest fans. So when George found out about that he called Ralph up personally And was like bra was just talking shit on the podcast. Gee. I genuinely did not Know who you were never heard of you. Shout out to you young man. I see what you out here doing Salute and that and that that's that's that's big because the old g's really don't take that kind of humidity When talking to us young cats, you know, so but before this last three months That Ralph been on this meteoric rise Black Run was the highest decorated comedian From Dallas, but I think it also has to do with because you know, George Lopez. He's older Right, and then we are older too. So it's a case. No, don't put yourself in there with him He old. Thank you, baby. Y'all mr. And mrs. Old. I appreciate you, baby, you know, so it's it's a case where A lot of times I can tell you You're feeding you all that cheese and grease and Wouldn't let you put no Beijing in your bed I like it with a little gray in Yeah, turn it into a pop ball. I never I never did the faded shading thing Bruh, you know why you know why because you had money and because and because your old lady is good-looking Anytime you are successful as a black man, you have no need to live a fake ass life Thank you so much, man. And you was never taught. So you was already I'm always cutting up. That's how I know you can fight because you Maxed out at five nine little bitty niggas. They either real insecure or real secure You know what I think why a lot of people not him but why a lot of people are now wearing their graves more You know men because of me No Exactly You see a lot of these young men who are actually having you know, we're in their graves Some people even died. There's gray to have that sort of look that gq look and females are going crazy Everybody was hot You know, you see the dms, you know what's going down. I mean there they everybody here they gray hair into the quarantine Steve Harvey, Kevin Hart P. Diddy All the actors and Jamie Foxx everybody here. They grazed or shaved so you wouldn't know that they were Quarantine until the quarantine when the barber shops and the beauticians was out of commission And and your die girl couldn't get through there and that just for me and don't really make it In that hollywood-beigeen shade that you need that trick a nigga shade So they start wearing their graves and on tiktok. You saw all them zatties that they kept showing it everywhere Wow And that was nothing but a rollover of beard gang Y'all remember mr. Steal your grandma? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah teacher from houston. Yeah, man They fucked around and showed a picture that nigga his school ID picture without the beard and it was like, uh, get my grandma back Make a man look grown Man, I gotta put you back. I gotta talk about your career. I gotta talk about your accomplishments My people need to know there's a lot of people that want to you know, they want to do comedy They want to be Like you, you know, I mean you got to give them the blueprint print black run to where they can learn man And you that you to you to go through guys. Don't do what I did How long you been doing it now? 12 years 12 years later, sir No, well that I felt like I waited about five years too late But that's just my only personal thing that I got to deal with with myself because I never thought I was good enough to do this Like I'm funny at the barbecue. I can pull a girl I'm good at a job But professionally I never considered myself a real comedian even after I was the best in dallas and had been for years I doubted myself It's what took me so long to get on the road. It's what took me so long to get into competitions Well, hold on Where did that stem from? Were as a child? Were you raised like that to be fearful? No, it's it people say subconsciously like your mama said something and you see kids hold that and feel you know Self-confidence is not there because of that. No, that that wasn't where my fear looked My fear lied in in the fact that When you go into something that's popularity-based you have to be what people like And when you come up being something most people don't like That gives you the confidence to be yourself But it also puts you in a place where you're scared to go where you have to get validation from others So in comedy as funny as you may think you are you got to go on that stage and the people in that room are going to validate you They're going to validate whether or not that's a good joke or not So I had to to deal with that and then After growing up in church And you watching people that suck Still get clapped for because it's the proper thing to do Then you watch something like american idol and person like simon tear person I don't know why you even thought to do this with your life Well, it's because they've been lied to the last 25 years why they was at church saying baby You could be a star. You need to be in hollywood. You need to be on tv So I never let the locals people love for me. Give me an over inflated ego Even though they were seeing something in me. I ain't seeing myself like no, bro. You got it I'm like I just got it to you because if I go to new york I go to la I go to chicago. I go to atlanta places where comedy was Supposedly made and validated if I don't have it to them. I don't got it Is it different in every state like when you're telling your jokes or when you go different places Do you have to switch up your jokes a little bit depends on where you are? to cater to the people Some things are regional. Okay, certain logo lingo, you know, the Certain words that they call this they call it something else in a certain another part of it. You have to learn all of that Right like down here. We say soda water It's pop in other places. It's coke in other places, you know, I mean, so you got to learn little little interchangeable stuff like that but For any comedian that's starting out get away from telling jokes that are funny to the people around you Because that's a joke. You can't use nowhere else Get away from using stores and places of business that are Local to you Because nobody else knows it. Ain't no kroger in certain parts of the world. Right You know, I mean, ain't no pigley wigglin. Ain't no wind digs it, you know, I mean like if you ain't never been to chicago You've never heard of jewel osco But that's that's the grocery store, you know what I mean? So get get away from that kind of stuff So then you don't compartmentalize yourself as as and act from this place A local I tell people I'm not a local comedian. I'm just from here. I'm not a dallas comedian I'm a national international comedian. That's from dallas. Well, when you How did you first get your your, you know, stemmy relationship with something like I said a heavy hitters that you've already and I I asked you this and y'all keep going off subject Yeah, he told me to list my credits and my resume and tell people So let me let me write it down. I really want to just dive into how you met them the process Because that's what I said. I don't want nobody to take my route Yeah, but the process for you to meet these people for you to be this writer For you to be this guy that stands on stage proud today. That was a process And we need to hear the process. That's all I'm saying So, uh, it may not be a pretty picture But we don't need to give people a pretty picture because a lot of times it's not going to be a pretty picture So let's be real with the people so that they can learn because there's some guys that they they don't think that They can start at an age like you did as well But then you give them encouragement Rodney danger field was in his 40s before he started his comedy career Sally field was 39 before she ever got cast in her first movie, you know, I mean 51 Savage was 51 before he ever went viral, you know, I mean two chains was damn near 40 before his rap career really took off So there is no like no specific time or or time in your life To do something if it's never too late to go back to college. It's never too late to start a new career path So, how are you? I was 25 when I started good For me, but you could have done it when I was grown enough to have something to talk about Yeah, so and and so when it takes off and you how do you end up dealing with Wilder now? How do you end up dealing with 85 south guys like a chico bean? Uh, how do you end up meeting? Did you know you and ricky smile ever do some stuff together? I'm touring Ricky right now. Okay. Let's talk about this stuff man. Let's get it out here So He definitely been going through something lately. I was about to say I went down there to merman ham and linked up with a few is People that he rock with huh, but let's talk about it. So shout out to comedian a g white from brooklyn, new york A g white was down Performing at the adison improv. Then they leave was doing fat tuesdays. Yeah. I was a regular at fat tuesdays I'm murdering it. Um, I featured right before a g went on stage a g come. Tell me dude. You dope You need to leave Dallas Year later a g white comes back. I'm doing that same show He said yo, you've been on the road. I said nah, I ain't had tense I ain't had the money to get out there. He said yo, if I come back to Dallas And you haven't left Dallas Lose my fucking number Wow Right after that comedian mario tory from atlanta comes and performs At uh comedian q used to do a show called, uh, we got next at hyenas. So, uh, mario tory headlines I put our feature for him. He said man, if you ever in atlanta hit me up I get a wild hair in my ass one day Got a cousin that used to live in atlanta Said man, if you ever in atlanta you got a place to stay Got another dude to say man, if you ever get down to atlanta I got a hundred dollars for you for every show you do Wow That's big next thing, you know, I didn't bought myself a 40 dollar greyhound ticket to atlanta Rolled that greyhound bus 22 hours Pull up in atlanta My man cj Come pick me up Boy me at his house Go do mario tories room go do all these rooms next thing, you know, hey man, you're funny, bro Hey, you need to come here So when you go to a city and you wreck All the comedians Got another spot for you with you don't figure out some chicken wings. I got a spot for you tomorrow I got a room my host I got fitted all of the chicken wings for you So you can accumulate nice little rent money and a nice little two-week grind You know, you do three four rooms a night two three rooms a night for about two weeks and you're in that town Also in that town is going to be somebody from somewhere else that's also in town knocking around So that's why your network starts to build So I went from atlanta to chicago from chicago to new york from new york to detroit Went all around he didn't come back home Didn't come home until almost christmas So it was a whole year. No, I just I will pop back home pay rent, you know, see my lady see my daughter You know get back on the road get home Company club that never gave me an opportunity called me The feature that they first called was sick Second feature they called was out of town third feature they called Couldn't get a ride It was two last minute god's plan. They called me Hey black ron. Are you available to feature this weekend? No the guy before me. He wasn't able to do it all weekend That's what it was. Are you able to feature this weekend? Yeah. Um six shows you can do all weekend Yeah All right, uh first show is thursday eight o'clock be here You'll be featuring for dick gregrie. Wow big Man We talking about my idol Yes So when they told you that did you like flip out? Of course not on the phone, but as soon as you hung up the phone I would have flipped out if it weren't for the fact that I got walked into comedy by an idol First time I ever touched a comedy stage. I featured for shucky ducky. Yeah. Yeah So I was already used to being around people that I admired for doing this But I admired dick gregrie for something way past comedy. Right. I admired him for who the man he was You know I'm saying the the consciousness the wokeness, you know, that's why I followed dick gregrie Like I was a disciple. So that's all wait a minute. I know you lied to me. I think you pranking me I'm thinking y'all y'all must be pranking me because my friends know that I fucks with dick gregrie and by this time The local comedians were calling me the mouth of mexic comedy by now They were doing it as a joke, you know because back rung get on stage He'd like to say something deep he'd be killing the crowd and then he'd like to Wanna preach at the end why these niggas just can't do jokes. I don't know He just got to preach for 10 minutes at the end And he the mouth of mexic comedy and it took off as a joke and then I just adopted it Like now before real I am because if you look at Malcolm in his life And what he what led to the man he became So the story is almost the same with me So now I got dick gregrie right in front of me Who tells me I heard you call yourself the mouth of mexic comedy Wow Yes, sir. I do Well, you know, I knew that man. He was one of my best friends Yes, sir. I know that If you're gonna wear his name Don't do his name. No disservice That's me. Don't put no stain on that man name So from that point on Comedy was live or die with me if I wasn't gonna make it doing this We're gonna make it doing nothing else Then I get a phone call from my man Derek Keenum Shout out to Derek Keenum He said hey, man I'm writing for WBLS For earthquakes radio show because he was featuring for earthquake at the time Got a radio segment and they need some quick little one-liners. I know you good at them. Send me a couple of them I just text about four or five of them send them in Turns into a writing job For earthquakes first radio show The quake comes to Dallas Derek came make it. I feel in for quake Right then at that same moment Derek stops featuring for quake Quake needs a feature Proved myself that weekend Hey, young won't go in a row with me Three years in a row. I'm on the road with earthquake. Wow By featuring for quake. I meet all the og's But by also earthquake was the first time because everybody else I got fired I would do two or three shows and get fired for being too funny They don't want you to take their spotlight. You're not you're not here to be funny phase on cat I mean phase on say cat williams Pushed him away from the show because he thought he couldn't he could come behind phase on phase on tells me this And I understand what you're saying now because he's saying he can't go behind me He didn't know what he was dealing with the first comedian to ever Give me love for being funny was Rodney Perry the first comedian to to promote me from the Host spot to the feature spot because the host couldn't even get his credits right was a little rail Those are the first two dudes to actually give me a stamp of validation when it came to working at the white people comedy clubs So the white comedy clubs would never book me because I wouldn't go through their process That's why I say I don't encourage nobody to take my route What is their process? I did it the bar and grill legends real-time brickhouse lounge. I'm going to the black clubs I'm doing black comedy the white comedy What no man comedians normally do that's what black comedians normally did Okay, so just because you black skin don't make you a black comedian That's why you'll have black comedians that you've never heard of take off because they were mainstream comedians They worked the white rooms they went to the white clubs So when you go to hyenas or the improv on open mic night, they'd have a stand a sign-up sheet about 40 50 names long No matter what time you showed up the person there decides where you where you going So they'll fuck with you they're gonna put you on fourth block, which is the last 10 names So you might get there 7 p.m to sign up you ain't going on to one in the morning And I did this week after week even though I'm the funniest dude in the room Another thing they would do the gatekeepers So while the club is full of people that came to see a comedy show they're going to put their friends up Bombing their ass off She just couldn't joke their way out of a one-star bathroom Have you ever seen somebody get booed off stage? Absolutely. He's been booed off state. No, he bumped. Yes But not booed but not booed and damn show not off stage No, that's given up. That's real. That's given up and I'm gonna do my time You're gonna have to cut my mic off before I walk off stage. I will never let the boo. I will never let the crowd ruin my check I'm booked to do a certain amount of time. I'm gonna do my time Now you not I wasn't booked for you to like me. I was booked to do my time Right. So the only way I can get my money is if I do all of my time. Okay. That's real I'm learning now. Let's go. So That's when you start to get afraid Because it's all about paying bills So the next time you get a feature opportunity it's bad enough that clubs don't fuck with you It's bad enough that you don't play their game because you realize that it's rigged So you making a name for yourself and you going around the country building relationships with these comics without doing it They're the white folks way. So then when these headliners come to town, they telling the club No, I want black run to feature for me. So now the club gotta break down and call me Yeah, which is why I would be fourth or fifth or sixth on the call list When the when the headline was out, I need a black comedian to open for me Even though black is my first name in my stage name I'm number six or seven on the list even though I'm at the top of the heap as far as skill Is that why you named yourself black run? Well, yeah, because I'm proud of myself But I named myself black run because when I was in the hood living my hood life, everybody called me black Okay, and then when I would be doing my corporate life, everybody would call me run So my dichotomy is both of those. So I'm I'm black to some and I'm run to others I'm black run to everybody Got it. So working with quake Quake see me on stage half stepping He pulled me to the side in the dressing room He said hey young when I first saw you in Dallas. This ain't what I saw I say well, oh gee. I was doing a guest spot in Dallas. I never thought I would be working with you He said you say that to say what I say man. I'm just trying to play my part He said I ain't one of them cats I didn't bring you here to pity pat the the room. I didn't bring you here to pacify the audience And that was because of what had happened previously Yes, ma'am when you got fired because of being too funny not for being late not for smoking not for cussing too much You know gave me the most rules as a headliner. Don't do this. Don't say this don't know tk Kirkland really T to the mother doesn't k. Why do that? Why well because A lot of comedians headliner comedians thing is they don't want to work hard And some of them don't want to overrun the room. So if he's gonna do a whole bunch of Sex jokes, he's gonna do a whole bunch of bitching and hoeing He's gonna do a whole bunch of you don't want you to do it too because now the crowd has ran down They they've heard too much of that so his jokes lose They sting if that was your material too, especially if you're gonna be on stage for 30 minutes before him But do you think that makes sense? It makes a whole lot of sense, but at the same time It also comes from a place of fear if you ask me Because if your material was strong, it don't matter what you was talking about on stage before me I don't care if you set a dog on fire right in front right before you said my name The minute the song plays and I go up there. I'm finna erase that whole chalkboard and teach a new lesson That's just my take on it And I learned that from the og's and the dogs that I worked with from quake and then from then on Quake said man, I didn't bring you here to push it for it. I brought you here to push me I'm trying to work work a new special. I'm trying to get a new hour together. I need you to push me So then I started going on stage dogging it So then I'm sitting in the back and because I'm an earthquake fan. I'm watching his show every show And you saw the way how you pushed him you saw that I saw where I pushed him And then I also saw ways like oh If you didn't say it like this, but if you said it like that I think you might have a stronger response from the crowd because I'm a student of the game So I'm starting to punch his jokes up And at first he like younger nigga, who are you to give me a punch up? And then he said I'm I tested to him he said you spit it to me You know don't don't write it to me say it to me how it should be said And I told him the joke the way he should say it And he slapped the steering wheel and he said boy, you got something and that night In his set he told the joke my way instead of his way and everybody cracked up When he got the response he looked off stage and looked at me and nodded his head I didn't know I had just got hired I just thought I got validated like yeah, that was funny from that moment on Then I became a trusted counsel So when he would write a joke he Young what you think about this and that's validation right there When the og a man who been doing this long as as long as you've been alive But who been professionally doing this as long as you've been knowing what stand-up is now values your opinion All the rest of you local niggas can't tell me nothing So from there, I when he would introduce me to people. This is my young gunner. He write for me And you know a lot of comedians won't even tell that no Just like musicians and entertainers According to them. They they write everything. That's ego True greatness has no problem Acknowledging the people who helped you make be great Henry Ford had that concept. That's right I'm going to put myself in a room full of great people and what comes from that We are going to be you know what I'm saying? That's what they say The sum is greater than its individual parts if you surround yourself with great people Y'all gonna make something that's greater than any one of y'all could have ever did individually. That's real. I think you you God already been preparing you Even to even at the fact of like when you got on stage the other night and You and chico beam was going back and forth, you know playing the you know at the end back and forth. Yeah, you know You already been doing that since you were young But I love chico for that man because he shows the crowd that we equals in that That's hard. I was I respect him and I love him for that because like like especially anytime we perform in Dallas He goes out of his way to be like hey Dallas This guy is from here This is one of y'all's own and and you should love and support him Just as much as you do me if not more because he's from here And then after that we roast to show the people. I'm not just his opener I'm his colleague. That's right And I shout out to beam shout out to dc young fly who also does Y'all I tool will fly quite regularly. Um, I tool ricky smiley regularly Did a few shows with cori hulkham after I stopped opening after I stopped touring with quake quake started doing um quake's house the radio show and uh It just came to the graduation point You know, I learned all I could learn from him. We're accomplished all we get accomplished now It's time for me to go off and fly high right now Now I have what it takes to be a headliner in my own right now It's time to leave the nest when I left the nest He put me in the hands of other people who needed writers Put me in the hands of people like ken whitley Brought me on had me right for put me in the hands put Bunk me into people like bob summoner. That's all right I love the fact that you're a writer because at the end of the day you decide I don't want to do no more stand-up. You could write for the rest of your life and be good Because because the fame is about ego. I've gotten everything I can get from comedy Number one, I was I was the type of dude that could pull a pretty lady before comedy. So comedy didn't validate Excuse me, mr. Maker comedy didn't help me get no more hoes You know what I'm saying like it didn't it didn't validate me in that regard And I was already a secure man within myself because I spent 25 years with a chip tooth Right in the front of my mouth So I was already a very secure person within myself. So comedy didn't do that for me But I wanted a way To make my daughter proud of me. That's all how is your daughter now She just turned 12 Shout out to my baby line. That's the motivation. That's my motivation, bro And I thought that too because in the beginning when you were saying that the year she was born is the year you started comedy So that's what made me feel like She made you get up off your butt and the push. Well, she gave me the the the She gave me the license to fail Because remember when I started comedy, I didn't know whether or not I was going to be good at this But once I figured out I was good at it about a year into it I was able to Quit my job and just be like well, I'll just be broke I just won't have no money coming in so I can dedicate everything to this comedy Which is why I don't suggest and and recommend nobody do that You know, I mean wouldn't do that and having a child most of most comedians that you know still got a day gig It's real been on tv being in movies and everything and still Got a damn dance manager at avis rena caught and you've never had to have a regular job after that moment Thank god since labor day 2012. I have not put in 40 hours consecutively for nobody That's a blessing. It's a real blessing. Um You But I was homeless. He was doing that. You know what I mean? Baby mama was able to paint me I slept slept in my ex fiance's 2009 Ford Focus many a night That's hard many a night dog What does your daughter say about you now? Oh man, you can't you can't find a bigger black run fan than my daughter That's big You know what I mean because no matter what you say about her daddy She know she can go on any search engine Type in her daddy's name She's gonna find pictures of him Not just selfies getty images of her father. Wow. She's gonna find 30 minutes special on epics of her father. She's gonna find one hour special that he's self produced on his own. She's gonna see Podcasts and shows that have millions of views. She's gonna see clips They got millions of views and then more so than anything when we out in public And somebody walks up on me and say, what's up black run? Yeah He love daddy. They know you you ask my baby. What what what do her daddy do? Oh, he's a comedian. His name is black run He makes people laugh and she's been proud to say that since she was three years old dog dope I just like I said, um learning so much. I I feel like uh boss. I 101 Our people that listen to this show and hearing your story Is gonna erupt something in the ones who want to follow and line up with comedy to where they it gives you driving Motivation when you hear things put in a way Coming from a person they come from a genuine place. Yeah, you know, so I think that's a lie Man, that's what we all about, you know, that's what boss talk about It's basically getting us in front of our people so they can see that they can do it You know what I'm saying you don't have a problem getting in front of people like weekend and week out Like with as small of a forehead as you have Like your edge up. No, I was playing man I just had to go you see because you weren't expecting help. I had to hit you I really I'm one of them guys man that kind of I don't know. I've been I've been through it. So I much don't get me off guard. So let me let me ask you this question Because true survivors know this to be true That was that moment when it looked like everything that you had gambled on Was a loss. Yeah. Yeah for sure for sure where you was going to prove all your doubters right Yeah, when everything finally happens Is it just me or you don't get no satisfaction from rubbing it in people's face? Yeah, no it really it's more of a humbling thing To be honest with you. It's a thing where From my I'm a big believer in God. So it's a thing where From where I came from looking back where I am now to where I came from our glory go to him Right So I don't really even get amused with the people as much as I get amused with God when I get on my knees at night And my wife come get on her knees beside me And we pray and we know where we came from and we know who we are I think that's bigger than anything any person could ever even remotely influence, you know what I mean? So I don't look at it from a people's perspective at all. I think the last time I counted I had somewhere Around 15 or 16 on on screen on camera credits No full productions. Yeah Uh One hbo comedy festival, you know what I'm saying was in talks with hbo to do a special Development deal from mbc. You know been been all those places done all those things. Yeah The most rewarding thing for me, right Is the fact that I get to do this The biggest perk that I still get is the fact I get free admission in the comedy shows when it's all said and done Dog, I'm still a kid that loves stand-up comedy. That was that would risk getting a whooping to stay up late and watch comic view That was sneaking watch Def Jam and sneaking listen to albums that I wasn't supposed to listen to You know, red fox party records rich or prior party records things. I don't like Dola might, you know, everybody anybody had anything to pig meat mark them Here come the judge uh Pastor david banks Millie Jackson Mom's maybe Better right give us a props. Well, no could better. We're doing comedy. No, no, but she was she was she was a little She was a little on edge. Oh, she was edgy Millie was feeling it was very filled Millie will feel like there were certain things that children was just not supposed to That's right. George clinton albums were not intended for children. That's true at all and my mama Collects albums and she had those and she had all of these albums And I would like do things like alphabetize her albums and stuff like that Like because I was just a nerd like that But I was in doing so I'm sitting there and I'm reading all these albums. I'm absorbing all this material that's filthy I'm listening to these jokes. I'm listening to these grown folks conversations And I understand what they're talking about. It's funny to me Then you know, all kids cuss Yeah, so then when I get around my friends, I'm killing them Because these niggas ain't heard none of this that I'm kicking off But see the but the whole thing is I put in I mean to cut you off But the whole thing is God was preparing you for what you're doing now back then and that's so dope Just like I said when you and your you and your brother would play, you know, whoever laughs first That's that's god preparing you. He always does it in a way where you don't even know what's happening But at the end you understand exactly what happened Do you know what that game prepared me for the most what performing in front of a crowd that ain't feeling you Because I don't get unnerved when people ain't laughing immediately. Yeah, because I know I'ma win the game eventually I know that it's a little later. I'ma hit you with one that's gonna crack it I'ma bust you and once I see that weakness I'ma exploit that And before I know it I got you rolling on the floor man That's that's a good game to y'all need to start playing that game if y'all getting into this business because that's that's a really good game That's it But who is the most funniest comedian to you because even top to me? No, hold on. Hold on. Um because Since you're in the craft anything that you're you're doing you're not just listening to them like how we listen to them Right, you're listening to them in more of an in-depth Wait, who is the most funniest like you can't stop laughing Comedian you've ever seen. Oh, okay. I thought you asked me who's the best at stand-up comedy No, the funniest as in like so what's the difference? Oh, I'm so glad you asked. That's like asking me who's the best NBA player versus who's the best basketball player I've ever seen Like there's difference between hooping and playing ball and playing professional ball You know what I mean? So like there are cats that that are phenomenal at this at this craft of comedy Right and craft a joke so good. It's like, oh, that's great. That's brilliant And then they're not they're not super funny, right like when I watch a Dave Chappelle special I don't watch Dave to laugh. Okay. I watch Dave to watch Dave take something that shouldn't be laughed at and make it funny They make you go or make you go. Hmm. Thank because that's just as deep as a belly laugh So but the comedian that makes me just laugh until I can't breathe. Yeah, Tony Robbins Hands down, really Tony Robbins. Well, that's still alive I'm gonna give you nice. I still live Tony Robbins after him Mike Epps because they have such a free flowing None Join it comedy style. There's no segue. There's no subject matter. Really. It's just Joke out the joke out the joke out the joke out the joke of things that'll make you just laugh It's just absurd Then there's cats like Jamie Foxx Who are not only good at telling a joke They good at painting a picture and he can sing the song And then he can actually do the voice And impersonate the person that he's telling you about so he wraps you completely in what he's doing So that you know, there's different categories and there are people that They're just really charismatic. You just really want to hear what they got to say they take on things You know what I mean? Those those are your people like your cat your cat Williams You know, those are people like your Bernie max Eddie Griffin was the first person that I've ever seen that Made me think. Mm-hmm. You know, it's not it's not illegal yet It made me think I had to pull up my phone Nobody else everybody else I just laugh and it was funny and stuff like that He actually made me like pull up my phone. I'm like research like I never heard of that Like is that true? Eddie griffin is in my goat category See, there are certain people like Eddie certain people like Dave certain people like Red Fox George Carlin Dick Gregory Bill Byrne Those are the cats that that transcend Just making you giggle those are the cats that that become philosophers But when you guys talk about comedy, right? And then you you talk about these guys that are so Talented, right? Then you catch a guy like Kevin Hardy comes up a whole different way, right? That's flies hell to me, right because He's bad because for him to create his own wave and lane the way he does it. Mm-hmm. It's different, bro Okay, I'll put it. You see what I'm going wrong because they good Everyone y'all said that these are spectacular people but for him to come up slow but go but then bam That's hard man. Yeah, Kevin Hart is the Nellie of the comedy game You explain that When the time Nellie came out we were at on the cusp of the end of the gangster rap era And we were going into the jiggy era the bling bling era And Nellie came along and he was just commercial enough to where white people didn't mind singing songs about dealing drugs And right when Nellie came along If you were too gangster you weren't commercial enough if you was too poppy you were still too corny for the streets So you wasn't all the way corny like a will smith for nick canning, you know cast like the streak in came Believe you really doing this and he's also not Zero, you know, I mean he ain't gangster, but he's he's right on the edge of both of them He'd do a little song right here and then next song got everybody doing the chicken head and everything like that And he made itself marketable apple bottom jeans vocal clothes Brought the st. Lunatic's around brought his whole team around kept his whole team around Everything was all about hiring from within But then once he became a superstar Got the prettiest girl And then it was all about making opportunities for everybody else Kevin Hart did that same thing Kevin Hart was necessary not ever necessarily the funniest dude in the black comedy club Nor was he the squeaky clean white Comedy club black comedian either He was just street enough to do black jokes at a white club Which made him very marketable Because when white people find you likable now you are something they can sell The minute he became a big household name brought the plastic cut boys with him Kept the plastic cut boys with him as he elevated brought them along and then the minute he became a superstar He started heartbeat productions Where he's able to give opportunities to everybody else my first time ever being on tv The reason why y'all know me right now the reason why I got more tv creators than everybody else Is because of a cat named Kevin Hart Because he had a guy in his camp named joey wells That's a plastic cut boy. That's one of his writers. That's one of his trusted close allies And joey say I got an idea for a tv show Where we go around the country and we find the funniest local comedians and we put them on But I need you to put your name on it kev So they can get on tv And they named the show heart of the city And I was on heart of the city season two The dallas episode episode three and you had a chance to meet kevin But one of the stipulations for the thing was the only way you can get on the show is you got to have no tv experience No tv craze So let's back it up A year and a half before that you had robert pow Comedian who had just moved here to dallas Had a tv show on magic johnson's network aspire Had booked me to be on his tv show But because I was flying on a buddy pass I got stuck in harshfield atlanta airport. Well, god, but god got a god got it working So just because it don't happen when you thought it was supposed to happen Don't mean it didn't happen when it was supposed to happen. Y'all hear that You don't know what god has in store and a lot of times we get frustrated at the moment Because of what's going on and I realized like I tell my daughter all the time Anytime you go through anything in life, it's think of it as a lesson don't think of it as A disappointment or anything like that because you're going to get stressed and anxiety and whatever Think of it as a lesson that god is trying to teach you and then Be patient You just learned something Now he prepared you for the next step that might come two years three years four years But you just have to keep working because you got to meet him halfway. Wow. Do you know why? Fruits and vegetables grow mostly underground Or or under coverings Even though even the fruit that you can see on trees it grows in a pod in a covering because you can't see it Reason being is because if you could monitor the progress you would never be proud of the harvest See everything goes on underground. You can't see what's going on. You just hope you just trust it That seed that you put in the ground that little sprout that came out to show you a little promise That little stalk with some little flowers on it that get pollinated ready you you watering it and and make sure you got no Lighting you just praying lord, please Please lord because if this don't turn out i'ma die of hunger and starvation But I took my last little bit of money and rather than buy some fruits and vegetables from the stove I bought some seeds In other words rather than continue to eat on handouts from my other friends and family that are on Could ask your partner that made it to put you on Ask him to give you a seed instead Could ask in the people that are already blessed sitting at their table eating They bless his reaping they benefits from their hard work to give you a portion of that Ask him for some dirt in a hole so you can go do it yourself. That's so many times people I think People block out certain things just like how you're talking and you're dropping jewels and you're you're giving so much information Some people take that and be like man, I need to hit them up. What can I get? Can he put me on here? Can he do that instead of taking the information and doing their research and saying okay? I'm gonna do this now I'm gonna try that because people think that there's a magic recipe to success People think that there's a magic spell like if I say these 17 words in this specific order That everything is gonna happen perfectly for me If I do these things the same way that that person did it I'm gonna get the same thing that that person got know you not Because you're not them And you didn't have the experiences and the life that they had to let up until the whole point Like every decision you make is based off of the person that you are and everything that happened to you before that moment Bruv, we didn't live the same life. I could give you I could teach you I could give you the the coke I could give you the pot The spoon and the baking soda that I used But if you don't know how to whip You're not gonna get the same crack, but um, okay coming up The friends that you had in the beginning That helped you to get where you are the person that gave you Um, a place to stay in Atlanta. Mm-hmm gave you the money Do you still talk to them today? Absolutely My day ones and my day ones shout out to my doll celebrity My ace boom koon my best friend in comedy We pushed each other out of legends. We pushed each other to become stars Because how many times you see people that I've spoken to people who say Oh, I don't even talk to this person anymore because they've gotten too big They forgot all about me But I was the person who helped them to get to where they are. Well I feel two ways about that. Okay There's a difference between being there when I started and helping me get to where I am Like uh, there were people at the hospital when you were born, but they didn't help your mama deliver you They was just there at the hospital. So just because you was there in my infancy Don't mean that you helped cultivate me or helped me get to where I am You were just present I'm talking about just like that person who gave you the money or gave you a place to stay or, you know Right because if it wasn't for that you probably wouldn't have not gotten the urge At that moment to go to Atlanta at that time. Right. So to that I say If what you were doing for me and my career and in my life was from a genuine place Then the fact that I made it Is the blessing that you should be thankful for The fact that you know that when you invested in me when god told you hey bless that man right there You know that you weren't sowing seed on bad ground That's your blessing If you were doing it for a return and you weren't doing it from a good place You weren't doing it from a holy place. Now I don't think that you should forget about people that looked out for you But there should be a cap on that also Because what's enough If I looked out for everybody that that did something for me In my life as a little if I looked out for the dude that didn't rob me when I was 17 He let me get on the train and go home if I look out for the girl first girl that gave me some kuchi If I look out for the the the the rent office lady who who didn't put me out on the 19 She put me out on the 24th. So give me three more days to have somewhere to stay, you know at what point do you go back and The hundred dollar investment that you put in my life 10 years ago Shouldn't equate to a hundred thousand dollar kickback right now that i'm on and I wasn't even talking about money wise and stuff like that I was even I was just talking about something as simple as Calling every now and again and say hey bro, like I ain't forgotten about you in my life Mr. Maker ain't no such thing as you can't get a hold of me The people that say that or the people that stopped talking to you until you got on Then now they want to call this number to see if it still work Usually because they're stunting in front of somebody else about the fact that they know you and that they've been knowing you since You wasn't shit. Oh, you don't believe me. I'll call this number right now Hey, bro. What's up? It's me. Who the fuck is me me from 35 years ago? I hope you get started. Don't you remember me? Oh Oh, you brand new no nigga There have been other people who have done other things for me in the 35 years since that time You told me you got what it take and gave me five dollars That's real if you were constant in my life Ain't no such thing as you you don't know how to get in touch with me That's why I have three phone numbers Personally, I got I got I got a 469 number Which which is for all of the people that knew me before I took off I have an 818 number, which is Los Angeles For all of the people that met me after I became industry industry And then I have a 214 number that is the bat phone That only My immediate family and close friends have that number make sense If you call my 214 number like like to the point where my family knows my immediate family knows Don't call that 214 number if you just want to highlight me Because that's a stop everything phone And if you just stopping everything to say Hey mama said is you gonna be in town next week? You could have called me on the other two phones that y'all also have numbers to but if my family Can respect the fact that sometimes I don't pick up my phone not because I don't feel like talking to you But because I might be taping the show on one of the coldest podcasts in the country Or I might be performing on stage You heard what he said, you know, I mean my mama called me. Hey black run You're busy. She'll do it just to be teasing me But if my mama respects the fact that her son has a job where he's a public figure now Then that nigga I ain't talked to since the last time I talked to him Fuck what he going through. Yeah, most of time like you say that's just somebody trying to you you get that, you know How can people get a hold to you my guy like run if they trying to reach out and try to Book you or try to link up now if they want to book me I used to say call me directly, but praise god. We got a team now We got a team now, you know, I said shout out to boss lady management You know I'm saying the coldest management company in the country She represents some of the most premier comedy acts in the country and I'm just glad To bet I'm on her roster. You know what I mean? So she'd think enough of me to have me on there With the likes of chico bean Darren big baby brand old summer been drinking. She's the manager of the 85 south show tour um uh Her first client Was earthquake So I've been walked in, you know, I'm saying everybody everybody that that grabs me Walks me to the next phase of my career. So I thank all the people that had something to do with the black run Getting into this chair. You know what I mean? So but if you're gonna follow me And if you want to book me How led boss lady management be sure you talk to boss lady. Send me an email. I'll direct you to her What's your email about email black dot run dot comedy at gmail And it's black with a Q. Thank you, miss jamaica because I know I know ec ain't gonna put it right here on my chest in post-production I'm gonna drop the words right here. You're probably gonna spill it right right here on my head I'm not gonna do that. But I'm gonna have you right. I could promise you that but uh, boss talk one on one What a boss has put him out there, but also um Let me say this about people that want to book If you if you're real about this because I I believe in helping black businesses and in small Business owners, especially promoters and especially the ones that's trying to get off the ground But bro, you gotta have your ducks in the road You can't call me talking about what can I get you for? No dog. No because you wouldn't do that to nobody else It's and so don't don't act like because I'm from the town because I'm from here because you've been knowing me Because you've been rocking with me ever since that we can't do business the legitimate way Aka white folk business and I don't have to have A team of white folk behind me in order for us to do white folk business My whole team from my manager to my assistant my publicist my merchandise Agent my travel agent everybody is a black woman And we change the world a black woman a black one my whole team is black women. You feel me. Why no males? um because uh I can have a disagreement with a member of my team We can talk to each other crazy and we know that it's love And I know that because that's a lady. I'm never gonna get out the way with her I'm never gonna Be all the way in my emotions and I that allows me to realize that she's not talking about me personally She's talking about me professionally So get my ego and my emotions out of it because this is business that we're talking But it would a dude You can get on phone telling me i'm fucking up or I should have been there or why I didn't do this or Yes, tomorrow you need to be like you running to me No, dog come outside. Who you talking to? I was just really self-awareness is all you speaking of Yeah, I'm not disciplined enough to understand who he is. So I mean I'm good with that I need a black woman to get your ass up and get to the airport for you be to miss your damn flight You're right. You are so right. Thank you so much. Yeah, I had one more question. Go ahead. Um Because you said comedy you've done it all in comedy Um, what's your next step whereas are you gonna go off into the movie industry? I don't know I can't act. I've been acting since I was 10 So I've done everything from commercials small tv small plays and stuff like that, but Honestly, you're playing a preacher. Well, thank you They live the church say but uh Honestly, man, what whatever I can do to put a stamp on the game. I want to change the culture of comedy I want to be reggae. There's one of those philosophers Like when you think about like Who gonna be on the Mel Rushmore comedy? I want my name in that conversation So I don't necessarily need to be in a movie to do that I don't necessarily need to be in a tv show to do that because Bernie Mac wasn't in none of them And he's still Bernie Mac. You feel what I'm saying? Man. Oh, and you can follow me on christian mingle too Deacon long stroke. That's my handle. Uh, no, but facebook youtube My publicist got me a new instagram. They banned me off instagram for old man for being too pro black, bro I had no naked women on my page or nothing. I wasn't doing none of this Talking about pro blackness and yeah telling black people to love ourselves and and during that's when I found out tiktok was racist because during the 2020 riots and The george floyd trial and everything like that if you put hashtag r.r.p. George floyd a hashtag black lives matter on your tiktok They would just delete that post So I'm like, wait, man, no app from china finna tell me that they don't care about my black existence Oh, well then I'm not finna help you be great. Right. I'll be on fan base. Shout out to ice. Okay, man Hey, man, um, we enjoyed you. You know, you one of them guys, man I appreciate you for all the uh, all the different things you did that I feel gonna enlighten people You know what I'm saying to go help people you ain't gonna you ain't gonna you ain't really gonna rock on me So you see these views. No, I don't really care about views. I'm one of them different niggas, man I don't I don't think I get invited to the barbecued in telling you better telling What's going down? I heard he's seeking barbecued. I ain't got invited to now I'm telling you is shout out to sir charl jones. Well, he invited me Shout out to the guy who brought me over and cook big big big meals for us, didn't he? And so you need to cook, you know, that's what people know me for I was a chef for five years before comedy. That's hard, man I was fat in college Really bro. I was 275 pounds in college But you can't even say that because you tall so 275 not gonna look like a regular When you a nigger with hips you fat. I don't care what nobody's saying. You got a juicy body as a man. It is never a good thing Man, thank you so much for coming on the show. We love you, bro. Man. I appreciate it man. Thank y'all for having me You know what I think that's I think and I don't care what they say about you after this I'll fight for you now Bro, you know the way you came in man at the place I know we good because once you get into it with a nigga then watch out That's how we friends then it'd be a stronger. It's a stronger man I want somebody to say something about boss talk now Just slapping across that little Hey, man, I just thank you for even coming on the show spending time with us this evening for real for real And uh, like I said, man, I know it's gonna help people man. That's my biggest thing That's why we did this is because we know that y'all story Need to be heard, bro in a way to where it can help some people, right? So check it man. It's been another great segment of what? Boss talk 101 where the boss is talking What up? Why are we on boss talk 101? Hey!