 Hey everybody, good Friday afternoon and welcome again to Dr. Jill Live and today I have not only a brilliant naturopathic doctor but one of my dear friends Dr. Charlize Pratt. We're neighbors in practice and which is so fun to talk because there's so many levels on which we relate and today's going to be no different. I'm really excited about our topic. We're going to expand the topic from EMF, histamine and PEMF and you'll find out what all those mean and how they're linked if you don't know if you're like why in the world are these topics on one presentation and Dr. Pratt is not only a wealth of knowledge on this topic but she's even got some slides to share and just some incredible content. She was the one who first introduced me to PEMF. I had known about it for years but really the science behind it and sharing some of her patient stories and personal experience and I'm just a huge fan. If you've heard me talk before now, me and my mat, I love it. I use it every day so we'll get into some of that. Just a little background before I introduce her. If you want to find any of the other podcast or episodes, you can go to YouTube and just search my name Jill Carnhan. We now have over 60 episodes. We're podcasting so you will be seeing all of these episodes and more on YouTube's that you're all of the apps that you can find podcasting on as well. Stay tuned for that. We'll also have the landing page with transcripts all fully written out in case you don't want to listen to the episode. You can read it. All that coming, just stay tuned. If we do mention any products, my store is just drjilphhealth.com. You can find things there. Without further ado, I'll introduce my friend Dr. Charlize Pratt. She is a believer in integrative and holistic medicine. Her practice in clinic focused on neurology and complex medical conditions relating to metabolic disease. She uses functional medicine and her expertise in biochemistry, methylation, and physiology. She is one of the experts on some of these pathways. She's the one I go to if I want to talk about methylation pathways or comp-2 mutations or some of these things. We have some really fun discussions. She helps patients get to the root cause of their symptoms through a strategic approach. The modalities she uses in her practice are nutrition, botanicals, environmental medicine, classic homeopathy, and hydrotherapy. Many patients come to Dr. Pratt's office after seeing other doctors. They're scared, frustrated, and looking for answers that no one's been able to figure out. We both do these medical mysteries. She often tells people that she looks at medicine like a detective. She looks for clues that lead to the current health situation with strategy. She will work with you to figure out no matter how complex your health issues. She's been featured on so many different interviews and posts. You can find our previous episode on YouTube, on Facebook here. I don't know what number it is, but if you go back, we're recorded here as well. Dr. Pratt, thanks for coming on. It's great to have you here, and always fun to talk to our friend and colleague. It's so wonderful to be here. Thank you so much for having me on your podcast. You're welcome. I always like to start story, and I'd love to know this is kind of a broad topic. We'll dive in in just a minute, like how do they relate to finding the terms of that? Of course, you can share some slides too. But before we do, why is this relevant to our medicine, and how have you seen cases where either your personal life or patients where this really, really does make a difference? Give us just a framework of why you and I are interested in this topic and why it matters to the health of our patients. I think the journey began when I started seeing autistic children way back in 2005, 2006 through 2007. I became a biomedical doctor, a defeat autism now doctor. They were called back then. We were looking for environmental medicine clues, metabolics, genomics. We wanted to get to the root of why we were seeing these really tough neurological cases that weren't... We had to individualize care. It wasn't a plug, a protocol in, and everybody got better. You can't throw the kitchen sink at them either, or they don't get better because it overwhelms their kidneys and their liver. It was a journey one step at a time in environmental medicine, I'd say. I know you sit on a lot of different groups for environmental medicine, but electromagnetic frequencies are like smog. It's like smoke that we used to think of in the 80s. We'd be around smoke and feel like this is carcinogenic. This is really bad for us. It's called electromagnetic smog is the same thing. When we started seeing in practice that this is really impacting people's health, especially if they have Lyme or infections, if they have mycotoxins, if they have chronic fatigue. These were the canaries that first showed up in the practices saying, I don't feel well and something's going on and I don't know what it is. We as doctors had to sleuth it out, figure out what is causing this new level of new exposure to them because we've cleaned up the diet. We've done all these other things to support them and we weren't, for a long time, we weren't thinking about EMFs because we can't see them. We don't know that they're impacting us. As a personal story, I started helping a lot of patients. On a personal story, my family was in a really terrible car accident three years ago, last month. My husband got really hurt and injured and has been disabled since and has been dealing with chronic pain. You as well as many other wonderful doctors together, we've come together and we've found some really amazing things. But one of the things that I was looking for is pain management for my husband. That's when it all clicked to me when I was at an EMF conference in 2019. I started learning about PMF and what it did and what it did for metabolism and what it did for nutrient absorption, what it did for oxygen saturation within the cells, what it did for the cells to heal the cells and to manage pain and actually slow down arthritis, which that's something my husband has. Personally, there's many complications and Dr. Jill, you know many of those, but it was a aha moment when I found PMF therapies and that's when I dove in back, I guess it's almost three years ago, to start to really figure out this technology that's actually been around a long time. So then I started telling everyone I knew about it. But I always credit you. You've heard me say, I just have a doctor friend of mine. That's you. If you've heard me say that another, that's Dr. Pratt. And from my perspective, same as you, I've known about PMF. I've known practitioners that used it. I've known that there's good science. But when I started, first of all, you had said, hey, Jill, this is amazing. And all that I knew is the machine that you have is very expensive and amazing. And so at that price level, I was like, well, how practical is this for patients? And I kind of poo pooed it for a while. And then I got a chance to get one that was at a lot cheaper price rate and ended up working okay. But the bottom line is this, it's not about the price or the machine. The technology when I started diving in, there's such good science. This is NASA science. This is like really good Tesla Tesla. Yeah. And and again, I'll let you talk more about the details. How I got to be a convert to PMF was partially through you and your stories. And like, Jill, you really need to check this out. And all of these things, what ends up whether it's EMF or PMF and how they relate, we'll talk about that. It's invisible. So patients aren't always thinking about this, but there's so much power in this electromagnetic spectrum, not only to hurt and harm sales, but to heal. And personally, again, you guys have probably heard me talk about it. I've seen dramatic changes in my energy, my labs, my sleep. And I love objective data. So this is not just Jill feels better. This is like my labs are showing a dramatic improvement in malabsorption, things for my gut in my sleep. I look at the, of course, the aura ring and the deep sleep has been sometimes double or triple as before. So there's really objective stuff that I've reproduced. And so there's no doubt in my mind this works. I want to kind of give it over to you because you've got just such great content and you're going to pull this all together. If you want to share your slides, you can jump right in and tell us about these, what they are, how they connect and your experience with them. Well, let me just put all of this up for you. So this is just some ways that people can get ahold of me. You can find me at thepratclinics.com. And this is my clinic. So a lot of people are like, what's the big deal? I know the X-rays bad for me. I know that radioactive like plutonium and uranium is bad for me. We've known that for a long time. That's called ionizing radiation, but we've had a little bit of confusion about this non-ionizing radiation. And these are things like microwave ovens in your home. And these are things like computers that sit on your lap or next to you, your smart appliances all over your house, energy meters, like smart meters on your house, Wi-Fi routers, cell phones, Bluetooth devices, power lines and MRI. They're all full of non-ionizing radiation that we used to think. Not a big deal, but collectively it's becoming a very big deal. And I also ranked these in terms of least ionizing to most non-ionizing. So this is stronger than say the microwave oven, but think about, I just want you to think about the collective effect of your home when you think about all the smart technology we've brought in along with alarm systems and making sure our thermostat is on a smart set and we can walk into a room and it turns a certain temperature. Well, that all has Wi-Fi running through your house bombarding you. And we're going to talk about what the implications of that are. And so if I can just give a really practical example. So I had a building biologist come to my house. You can have someone come and measure these. So if you wonder, there are building biologists out there that will come to your house and actually look at your house. And my shocker was she had me lie in my bed on my bedroom where I sleep and she measured my body voltage. And she measured it with the master switch off and on. So either all my electricity off or on. The difference was tenfold. It was 3,000, whatever the units are, and my body when the everything was on. And again, my bedroom, a few lamps, there was nothing, there's no smart meters there, anything else. I do have a sleep number bed, which has electricity on it as well. And then when we turn that off, just the master switch to my bedroom, it went down to 300, which is actually safe. 3,000 is not safe. I just wanted to put that in perspective because I have a pretty clean home and pretty low Wi-Fi from what I think. And I was shocked at the amount that was measurable in my bedroom. Same kind of story. I'll share my personal experience. So we had a building biologist in here and I gave them websites for building biologists, both the Institute for Building Biology, as well as Jeremy Johnson's website, which he knows all the building biologists all over the country, if not the world. He's a wonderful resource. He has a great TED talk too, but I was not feeling well in my home and I wondered why? Well, there were multiple reasons, but first the first thing I was okay with was finding out, you know, what our EMF situation was. And he walked into our bedroom and he was like, what is sending this off? Like the meter just went off. I can't remember how high it went, but he said he'd never seen it so high. So he was thinking it was like a drone sitting outside our window. What was it? You know what it was? It was our printer. Wow. It was the Wi-Fi sending out from the printer for, you know, for to pick up the signal to print something. And so we learned we had to turn off our printer, which is in the office right next to our bedroom every night. Otherwise, we're bombarding ourselves with the EMF. Wow. So it's these little, and the other thing that was really high in something called EMR, which is electromagnetic radiation was asleep a noisemaker. It was, all it was, was a noisemaker on the floor and it was sending out all kinds of dirty electricity. And so you learn, you start to learn, and I have some slides in here and I have some, the Environmental Health Trust is a great website for you all to know about. And that gives great, you know, ideas about where to go through in your home to kind of get the low, they call it low hanging fruits. And then you bring in a building biologist and they create a whole report. So, so wonderful. And they show you how to set up kill switches so you can make your bedroom like you're sleeping in nature. So yes, absolutely. Thanks Jill. That's, it's great to have that story. So who is this harming besides humans? We know it's harming us at this point. We have lots of research to support and you're going to hear about all the symptoms that go along with it. But we've got immune system dysfunction. We've got increase in bacteria and fungal resistance even to our antibiotics and our antifungals because of EMF. EMF is starting to show that bacteria and fungus not only grow faster in high EMF environments but they also become resistant to our medicines. So, and then we have fertility problems. We know that. But it's also harming our insects. There's a huge problem with bees and we're hoping that we are coming up with solutions but we don't know all of the ramifications of this electromagnetic fields that we're producing to our plants, our animals, and our insects. You know, we just don't know what we're doing. So we're still trying to figure that out. Wow. Look at all of the things that EMF exposure or when you have sensitivity to electromagnetics, there are people that like literally cannot go in a building that has Wi-Fi. And the reason why I started these is because look how many of these also are associated with histamine. And maybe some of you didn't know that these symptoms were related to histamine. Jill, what do you think of this list? Yeah. Gosh. That's why I loved. I was so excited for you to start telling us about this because at first glance when you see the title EMF, histamine and PEMF, you're like, first of all, what is EMF? What is PEMF? And then what does histamine have to do with it? Well, clearly there's a connection because it's such a correlated list. And you know, you'll talk about this, I'm sure, but whether it's kind of like poking the bear, whatever pokes the immune system or pokes the system, EMF is one of them, mold is another, infections are another, can cause our own mast cells to throw out excess histamine. And this is one of those things that can do that, right? Absolutely. We have, I'm going to show you some research after this slide eventually that shows we're starting to see more and more the correlation between mast cell dysregulation, which mast cells are the, they're like little balloons that hold your, your histamine inside. And when they pop, they release all that histamine out into your blood. And so when you are exposed to a lot of EMF, which let's talk about junior high kids, high school kids for a second and college kids, they all have their devices, they're all in a room next to all the other kids with devices, they all have their phones on them and their computers, they have their Apple watches, and then they have a router right above them. All of these devices are being tested alone to say this is safe, this is safe, this is safe, but when you collectively look at how much when we get into a room full of devices, it's exponential. And, and we also know in a lot of those schools we have mold growth, a lot of them, a lot of those schools, whether they're junior high, high school or college buildings, they have mold. Well, that's going to trigger a compounding result of these kind of symptoms. Even without the mold, without mine, without other infections, you can get a burn on your face just from sitting in front of your computer. I saw, I saw some, some pictures today reading through the research of a before and after when somebody was on their computer for like two hours, their hands were red when they got up and that wasn't even with them, with it on their lap, it was on a table. So there's EMF that's impacting, we're having skin and burns, they almost look like chemical burns and they're from electromagnetic frequencies are coming off of our devices. So, but if you see this list, I'm just kind of letting it hang out. I don't want to read every one of these, but many of these are also associated with histamine. So it made people start to wonder, like, you know, it also makes it really hard. Somebody may be coming in with ADD and like eczema. And it's not just that they have allergies to their environment, but they're maybe on their game console and have a bone in their pocket all the time. And that's the reason why they have eczema. That's the reason why they have shortness of breath or asthma. That's the reason why we may need to, we may miss it. That's what I'm saying, is a lot of us miss these symptoms. So a wonderful man in the environmental medicine world. In fact, he's kind of one of the grandfathers, wouldn't you say Jill? Yes, Dr. Ray. He had a clinic, an environmental medicine clinic, and he created this barrel approach. I had never seen it before, Dr. Ray, had you, Jill, which is, he was brilliant. Anyway, you can see all of these, all of these different chemicals, infections, pollens, environmental toxins, they all add up, and some of them make us more sensitive to EMF. A lot of them do, especially mercury amalgams, heavy lead burden in our body, even gold fillings. There are people that have actually reported that they can pick up on signals, if they have enough amalgams in their mouth, they can actually hear things like that are over radio waves, which, wow, that's intense. So we are, we have to put it all together. And I just want to remind any doctor that's watching this or patient that if you've been really confused, this is how complicated it gets. We have to look for all of these things sometimes in these really complex chemical sensitivity, long-term chronic infections, wouldn't you say, Jill? Absolutely. I love that you're saying that. And it really is the thing, the element in the room is our total toxic load, per Dr. Ray, is increasing every year exponentially. So even 10 years ago, the amount, I don't know what the numbers are and how much more Wi-Fi and how much more radiation we have, but it's literally the curve is not doubling, it's exponentially rising. It is. It is. And this isn't all going to be bad news, but these are pieces that we have to pay attention to. What we've found, you'll see in some of the studies as we go on, is even people that seem normal have no histamine response are showing changes after spending time on technology. So it's just something either as a doctor, as a patient to know exists. So this is my bread and butter, my practice. I love reading genetics. I really like Stratogene because it kind of puts all this pathway together and you see the genes kind of in motion, which I like to think about it as a big picture. A lot of you may have heard about MTHFR and that's kind of the sexy most famous gene of this metabolic pathway. But what I want to bring up here is that this is really complicated and if you're a patient, you don't have to understand this other than this is the full eight cycle and eventually we want to go over here and make something called SAM. And SAM is your universal methyl donor that turns on and off many other enzymes. It's really important for making new tissues, your neurochemistry, your ability to break down histamine. There's so many repairing your DNA. We need all of that. We need SAM for all of that, this methyl donor and it's our master methyl donor. And so what happens is we go through this full eight cycle and if you see mine, this purple means, this is mine, this purple means it's slow. It doesn't do it really well. So my lifestyle and having a clean lifestyle is pretty essential. But you come over here to something called MTR and this MTRR and imagine it's like a cog in a wheel and the more oxidative stress we have, the more infections, the more heavy metals we have, the more toxic burden we have, it's like a stone gets stuck in that cog and it's not working very well. It's really limping to move. And that means that all of this work can't get over here to make SAM. And so what's a rate limiting step often, this choline. So a lot of doctors, really we need, and patients if you're out there, if you have EMF sensitivity, if you have chronic illness, if you have mold, we really need to work on methylation. And sometimes the answer just isn't 5MTHF. It's sometimes MB12. Sometimes it's giving choline or riboflavin or creatine to help this cycle move past. And it means that doctor needs to keep working and be patient with them because they need to keep working on bringing down the reason why this cog is getting stuck. And it's very essential. We need to get this to work. Right, Joe? Yes. And I would just mention because if you're a patient out there or you have had your doctor give you, there's even prescription versions of methylfolate that are incredibly high dose. And I have seen more often than not, probably you too, Dr. Pratt, because we see these sensitive patients where patients are giving 5, 10, 15MG of methylfolate with no other intervention in a toxic environment. They crash and burn because what you're doing is you're up regulating this detox pathway. But I think of it as like taking an old Model T Ford and running it at 100 miles an hour on a racetrack. Everything's shaking, rattling, and flying off falling apart. And the patient's not able to go at that pace. And the toxic load is so high. So I love, I just want to bring it home what you said, because if you're out there and you just think your doctor says, oh, you need methylation, there's one size fits all, it's not going to work that easily usually, especially if there's more, especially those high doses, because you're pushing this system to its capacity and it doesn't work. Think about it as a, I love Dr. Lynch, actually, I got this from him. When you give too much methylfolate, it just ends up being like a recycle bin that's overflowing and not going anywhere if this isn't moving. And so you're actually creating more for your body to deal with than you're doing anything with. And I've seen the same thing, Jill. I love your Ford kind of falling apart. Some of those people though, they get, they stop like on a dime and they can't function. Like they feel really good on high dose methylfolate. And then they crash on the other side because it's, they get to a point where they've saturated and this pathway isn't moving and it's not the B12 and folate. It's that we've got to take care of the, the redox. Why? Why is it slowing down? And we have to give it other support over here with choline, betaine, creatine and, and, and riboslavin. So this is just a quick kind of methylation talk, but I wanted to bring it home with histamine because it's, I think EMF, I'll talk to, you know, the people over at Seeking Health, we'll probably add EMF over here and EMF up here because I really think it is impacting the release and the, the, the gene trying to manage and what, what happens with histamine. What's, what's happening is, you know, anytime we have inflammation, infection. Because I really think it is impacting. All right. Are we okay? Yeah. Okay. So I think high stress catecholamines cause us to, to dump histamine. And then we can take it two different ways. And I just want to give everybody a little bit of context. There are things that are happening. I don't know if you saw that list and resonated. It may not be EMF that's causing your histamine issues. Lots of things cause histamine issues, right, Jill? Yes. But it can go down into the GI and then it's more of an enzyme than you take an enzyme called DAO. Or you come over here and we're managing release, but there's offsets to managing that release. Many people are taking a lot of quercetin these days and they're stressed out and they can't sleep and they don't know why. Yes. We all know that quercetin, although it helps those mast cells stay together a little bit better. And that would help a little bit with EMF too. They cause COM-T, which is an enzyme that breaks down norepinephrine, dopamine, and epinephrine. And it slows it down so you hold on to that longer. So you're up later and you can't sleep or you wake up three hours after you fall asleep and you're wondering why. So I have a very funny story about that, Dr. Pratt. I was, this is not even too long ago when I know better, but I like to experiment on myself and I was in the office one day and I don't know if I had some exposure that I knew was allergenic to me. And so I use quercetin as an antihistamine and I don't use a lot of it because I have a COM-T++. Just like you said, so what happens is that stops that breakdown of norepinephrine, epinephrine, and estrogen and then you'll feel kind of anxious, revved up. Well, I'm not typically an anxious person. I know better than to take a lot. I don't know what I was thinking. I took five caps, 2,500 of course it in because I didn't want to get allergic. That drive home, I was like, you know how you feel after you just get in the car accident and you're like, you're just shaking and internally you're like just dying? I was like, oh, I think my adrenaline is like sky high because of that quercetin. But it was so funny because like, well, if I ever want to feel like totally like I just got out of a car accident, I know how to do it. It'll just take those five quercetin. And we like the Goldilocks principle. We like to have just the right amount, not too much, not too little. But Green Tea Extract does that sometimes for some people too. So I'm just giving you some ideas about some things of why maybe you took some of these things to help manage histamine, whether it was EMF exposure, whether it's mold that you have in your world or whether it's seasonal allergies or Epstein bar or some kind of infection that's causing histamine, you know, yeast overgrowth even in the GI will cause histamine intolerance. And some of these other some of these great things to stabilize our mast cells can mess with our neurochemistry. But that's not today's lesson. And maybe someday I'll come back and we can talk about biochemistry with methylation because I love it. So here's some studies I just wanted to show you this is this is well documented. We're pretty clear about what's going on. But mast cells are activated and we are finding EMFs are basically making that dendritic cell or the mast cell that's what MC is standing for in here. Just to de granulate these cells and then these inflammatory substances like histamine make our skin be red or you get you see somebody's really flushed. And you know, I especially think about these boys or men on the game, or some women, and they have red cheeks afterwards and their hands are all red and a little swollen and clammy. They're they're actually, there's a ton of dopamine that's being dumped while they're playing the game. But the EMFs and that the histamine just goes straight up. So it's just something I'm hoping that you all put together when when you're thinking about these things. And then this study was really interesting to me they were looking at computer screens and TVs, personal computers, and they took healthy individuals and they took more sensitive individuals and they thought that the healthy individuals wouldn't have any change. And what I highlighted here is to their great surprise, they they changed to they had a they had a reaction, even though they they weren't prone to histamine intolerance. So it's just going to show that there is a reaction here. And you know, histamine also opens up the blood brain barrier, where if you have heavy metal toxicity, if you have mold illness, if you have chronic illness, when we run high histamine, we're opening up that blood brain barrier, we're letting things in. So I'm just kind of showing you the this is from a French doctor. And I listened to a wonderful presentation he gave at the EMF conference in 2019. And this was one of his slides that I just thought was a great takeaway of how this this model is it's being comprised of how we're thinking about it. Did you want to go over any of this? Or can I know? No, I just love that you're mentioning that. And for you guys listening, if you have leaky gut, same thing, basically any membrane histamine will increase permeability. So it could, like vascular capillaries, cause more increased permeability and more swelling or edema, extra, you know, tissue space of fluid, it could cause leaky gut. So if you have a ton of EMF exposure and more histamine, you might get more sensitive to foods and have more food sensitivities, or more reactions post meal time. So these it's not just the brain, although that's such a big one because of our brain function. And like Dr. Pratt mentioned, the toxic metals, or if we have infections in our sinuses that can go right into the brain as well. But really leaky membranes all over the body will increase with histamine. Which both Dr. Carnahan and many of my patients have experienced. I think you've shared your story of having that pitting edema from your mold exposure. And you had leaky capillaries, especially in your lower limbs, you got so much swelling. And that was a big histamine response as well as leaky capillaries, wouldn't you? Absolutely. So I just want to talk about reducing exposure for a minute. There's, we could spend hours talking about this. And I encourage you go to the environmental health trust. They have a lot of free information for you. So just always keeping your devices as far from you as possible. I get really worried when I see women tuck their cell phones into their bra or I see them carry it in the back of their pants because we've seen an increase in cancer wherever that that phone is stored on a regular basis. When we have it up to our head, the rate of gliomas have gone way up. And also heart tumors have gone up as well by people putting their cell phones on their chest. So it's just, it's really remarkable when you start to look at the studies how much that radiation is pouring into your body and causing cellular mutation. So getting things away, you know, not keeping them on your body, using airplane mode whenever you can. I know some of us don't have landlines anymore. If that's the case, you may want to turn off Wi-Fi, but you can keep your phone away, maybe in a room that's far away from your bed or as far away within your room as you can. So a distance matters. You're going to see that over and over. And turning off Bluetooth. So I mean, I was on the phone with one of my patients last week and she was telling me about all these wonderful things she's doing to clean up her environment. And I had to be at the end of the call. And now I want you to get rid of your AirPods because they're Bluetooth and they're constantly pinging. If you get a meter, you hear what it sounds like and then you actually have a, you have some kind of sensation to tie it to. So we, just these little things can actually make a big difference in your health. Just having kind of headphones like I have that are wired. They're getting ethernet when you can and plugging in. This all reduces your exposure. It's not binging you with radiation. So let's see. Yeah. Keeping a distance. Working offline more often. And again, courting. So these are all important. I think it's really, really important to talk about kids real quick. I was one of the people that let my kid play with an iPad. Like he watched the backyard games on flights. And I look back and it made my life a lot easier. I would do it a little differently now that I know how much EMF comes off of a device. But they have thinner skulls. They have smaller heads when they do have a lot of EMF exposure in utero. They're developing their brain. We see more leukemia in kids that have higher exposure to EMF. And we really don't want to set our phone on our belly when we're pregnant. That's just giving a direct, we're just sending a lot of radiation right to our unborn child. What many of us don't know is whether it's drugs, EMF, you know, vaccines, they're all tested on adult men. They're not tested on children and they're not tested on women. So these limits, radiation limits are very different for women and children than they are for men. And so it's just something to think about. And lifetime exposure matters and compounding, like I said, the Apple Watch, the computer, the router, and all your friends around you having the same, that compounds the amount that we're getting exposed to. So here's those resources for you. You can stop this video later and write them down. I wish that I may be able to put them in the comment section if you need me to, Jill. I'll do that for you. Yeah, the Environmental Health Trust is a wealth of information and the doctor that runs that is very, she's helping everyone to understand more about 5G and the risks that come along with electromagnetic smog. And the building biologists, they can come to your home like Jill and I had and tell you how to make your home safe. So what are the solutions to all of this? And now we're going to get into the third topic that we said we would discuss today. But just real quick, I think you should find a good doctor. There are many of us out there. If you search, you can find naturopathic doctors. You can reach out to Dr. Jill and I if you can't see one of us. Changing your diet to organic, rich in antioxidants, low pro-inflammatory foods, these are basics. Supporting neurological health with omega-3 fatty acids in the DHEA to EPA is one to one. You're not going to be looking for one more than the other. You really want a lot of both. Vitamin D3, again, to support your immune response as well as your neurological system. Electrolytes are really disturbed when we have EMF sensitivity or EHS histamine problems. So getting on a good electrolyte. I really like seeking health and it's just back in stock if you were wondering. That one just came back. There are other really great ones out there, Jill. Do you have another one that you love? No. Well, it really depends on, I don't want to get too complex, but potassium ratios. So our really severe adrenal patients need higher sodium to potassium. So you can look and you can just calculate yourself if it's like two to one. That's better for severe adrenal issues. But what we're talking about, what we want is high potassium to sodium ratios. I love seeking health. There's no one else out there that has a five to one ratio and seeking health has 500 to about 900 of potassium to sodium. So look at your electrolytes because it does matter what the ratio is. Right. So supporting the adrenal glands, this is also helping hydration as well. And many people that have adrenals as function are low in sodium. But some people are sensitive, right? It'll make them have more leaky, leaky vessels. So we have to watch that sodium. But supporting the adrenal glands with adaptogens and things like that, you can talk to your doctor about it. Managing histamine with the things that, you know, don't overstimulate you, of course. Reducing oxidative stress. Now, peroxine nitrate and methyl marker are big problems with EMF sensitivity. So antioxidants and one that Jill and I both are really excited about is hydrogen tablets or hydrogen inhalation, right, Jill? Have you ever done a podcast on that? I haven't, but often they bring out my machine. I love it. I love it. Well, it's incredibly helpful for EHS or having sensitivity to these EMFs. So fiber helps, you know, phase three detoxification, really good fiber and of course replacing nutrients that, you know, your doctor would find would be either high or low. Removing amalgams, like I said, heavy metals are big problem in being sensitive to electromagnetic frequencies. And then a low EMF sauna or blanket, which I think Jill talked a little bit about a higher dose. I think they make an EMF low EMF sauna blanket that you can get. We both like high tech health. I think both of us love that company. I think both of us have had it in our offices at one point or another, which sauna just helps us detoxify. Now let's talk about pulsed electromagnetic frequencies. So what is magnetic field therapy? Like that's what PMF comes from. And it's using magnets, whether they're static or dynamic to create fields to treat and maintain health. And the earth has its own residents and it produce electromagnetic fields. So there are patients that I have had over the years that feel anxious, restless. They don't feel good. And I just ask them go outside and lay down on the earth. You don't need anything fancy or go for a walk in nature or walk on the wherever you can go to walk on the beach or be in nature. You get bombarded with it's it's negative ions, right, Jill? And when we get bombarded with those ions, we actually, we start to calm down. It's having too many positive ions that is different. Have you ever noticed in a lightning thunderstorm or rainstorm or if you go to vacation on the beach, all of a sudden you're like, I feel so good. And obviously we're on vacation or we might, you know, there's other reasons, but there is actually a powerful effect just walking barefoot on the beach or being outside or just after an electrical, like a lightning or thunderstorm or rainstorm. And these are the reason why we feel better is that negative ion. Yeah. And so it's the Shuman residence that's created by that lightning. Jill, I don't know if you knew that, but it's extremely low frequency. That's the elf. At 7.83 is the average that goes up and down. I am not a mathematician. So, Shalice, that's the one that changed my deep sleep. It's 7 to 8 hertz and it is absolutely, that is the game changer. It's like, and I always tell patients if I'm discussing it, it's like if I was sleeping on the ground in a sleeping bag, right? Right. And that's, that's, that's what PEMF is trying to achieve on a certain level is trying to help your, you ground that you feel that electric, electric pulse that the earth would give you. So this is trying to give, we, we once lived on the earth, right? And we didn't have lights and we didn't have technology and we didn't have cars and we slept on the earth. And in some ways that was so much more restorative to our, we are electro sensitive beings. And you'll see in the history that we are connected through our, our, our electricity that runs through our own body. And we do resonate and constantly are pinging back and forth between us and the earth. So sometimes just getting and sitting on the earth, I know Jill and I have taken hikes where we take off our shoes and put our feet on the ground. And, you know, it's just so peaceful for your body. So you'll see there's a long history. It's not new. PEMF is not a new phenomenon. And we've been using it throughout history. And yeah, the father of toxicology used these load stones they were called and they were magnetic stones and he would treat seizures and psychiatric disorders back in the 1500s. He was already using magnetic therapies. And then, you know, it just kept going on this France, Mismur out of Germany. He had animal magnetism and natural energy of transference between all things that we are all energy and we are transferring energy. So, and then Samuel Hahnemann used, I mean, homeopathy is an energy based medicine. And he used magnets also in his treatments. And then Faraday, he created electromagnetism. He kind of came up with and contributed a lot to that, that study. Then each one of these, again, Tesla developed the coil that we use in PEMF to create the different sign, the different waves. They're all different. There's jagged. There's rectangular. And it's how we set the machine up to deliver this field that it can be tuned into what you need. So, somebody that needs bone healing, it's going to be totally different than somebody like Jill who just needs to lay on a low frequency. And her body starts to increase oxygen absorption, her circulation, her microcirculation changes dramatically. Her red blood cells, they get into these stacks and they all break apart so that she can actually have better circulation when she's on that mat or anyone's on PEMF. So anyway, it's made its progress. I mean, a lot of people looked at it as for what it could contribute to astronauts that went further than our gravitational pull out in space so that they wouldn't have bone loss and things like that. So NASA has developed techniques around it and so it's been in Europe though for years. I mean, I think for the last 100 years, we've had it in Europe. It started in Hungary and moved across Europe and it didn't make it to the United States, I think, until the 60s or 70s. So again, what is PEMF? What is a mat or sometimes there's like pieces that can come off of it like people with migraines could wear like a coil around their head or let's say you have a shoulder that you just had surgery on and you want healing, they can put a coil on your shoulder. But I like this generalized ability to lay down on a mat and you to experience a low frequency and all these shifts for pain relief, for energy, for digestion, for repair, to enhance sleep. So these are all the ways in which it's used and you use different frequencies based on the technology that you have and there's lots of different technologies out there. Again, I think higher dose, they have a foreign for red mat that also has PEMF. Jill gave those to all of her office people, lucky people and yeah, they're really affordable. Those mats are great and if you want medical grade, you can find doctors like myself who have more of the fancy units that we can do a little bit more with but you don't need it. Not everybody needs that level. So that was what I prepared today. Oh, Charlize, this has been amazing and hopefully for you guys listening, this just ties it all together because it just makes so much sense and it's funny because sadly EMFs and Wi-Fi has gotten some political eyes. It's really not a political issue. It's just a basic science issue and the sad thing is Dr. Pratt and I are the reason we're talking about this is because we see patients that are suffering and we want to help them and heal them and find the answers and what we've seen in our clinical practice is for many of our patients, this really does make a difference. As you could see all the resources Dr. Pratt had, I will be sure here and on YouTube wherever you find this to include links to her clinic and to include links to all the resources that she shared and to include links to the higher dose and both of us love the Hightech Health sauna in Boulder. They're actually local here but you know it's funny I went to Switzerland and guess what they had? They had the Hightech Health from Boulder so it's a really good unit but there's also the sleeping bag mats. There's the little ones you can sit in and you know I was talking to someone the other day I think it was Lynn Patrick. You can just put a space heater in your bathroom and close the door. If that's all you have and you sweat that's the key there for detox. That's a whole other topic. We didn't talk about infrared sun but you don't always have to get the most expensive devices which is you know what we're talking about here today but any way that you can reduce your exposure will be helpful. Any last words of wisdom or parting comments Dr. Pratt that you have for everybody? Well I just I always like when I go over topics that can be scary or we can get overwhelmed by the amount of information or what's working against us in environmental medicine is the resilience of our soul and the resilience of us as a human being in a collective and I just want to remind everyone to keep a positive mindset you know find one thing to be grateful for every day and that's going to bring down those those peroxynitrates and those lipid and lipid peroxatation anything that could be attacking you from these environmental medicine perspectives and it's it's about making little choices all the time that lead us to our biggest success so maybe it's drinking more water today or maybe it's saying no to maybe a sugary snack just like all of those things you can start to incorporate some of these things and they don't have to be expensive but hopefully you got something that you could do even today maybe you unplug your router tonight when you go to sleep or maybe you set it on a timer or maybe you go to the environmental health trust and you see oh I didn't know the baby monitor was big pinging me so much and I will sleep so much better without doing that and I have a different solution there's other solutions building biologists can come up so there are always solutions that's what I'm trying to say I love that chelise because again sometimes it's funny because most of the environmental medicine conferences that we go to especially the first day it's like whoa everything's bad we're all going to die right so but I think you did a really good job of framing it there's practical things there's things that are free there's that you can turn your phone off at night there's there's very simple things you can do and not be overwhelmed and this is an all doom and gloom and you definitely brought that today thank you so much for this great information I can already see likes and comments people have really enjoyed this and I'm sure more will come and watch thank you again it's my honor great to see you you are such a dear friend to me and I'm so happy to be here thank you