 Last thing I want to play from Brent though is highly, highly interesting to me just based off of Brent's brand and what I knew of his brand and apparently I thought of it completely wrong. So check this out. I was going to try to get to the interview without using the word toxic. Oh, I hate that word. Do you hate it? I hate that word. When we were doing the like the little packet of you and the word toxic kept coming up so much. I can't imagine in your life, but you lean into it a little bit, no? Not intentionally. I could do, but it gets to a certain point where once it's attached to you, you could do anything. And that's what people go on. It's like a zodiac. All right. Cool. He goes on to say basically like, oh yeah, you sit like a Virgo or a Gemini, like how people can just say anything you do applies to this label, this attachment. But what I found was interesting was obviously if you think about Brent Fias' brand, it's toxic R&B. That's a major label on his brand. Now of course, there's other segments of it. I wasn't aware that there was never a point that he pushed that or owned that himself. Yeah, that was fan push, bro. I didn't realize that was a fan push. Yeah. And that's exactly what I want to talk about. I mean, it's his life. You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know, he'd be talking about some toxic shit in the music, bro. He's king of, yeah, probably king of toxic R&B. He's king 100%. Yeah, bro. He's like, so I think it's just, it's interesting to see once again, like where the fans will take it. Because it makes me also think about like the future toxic narrative, but that's another like fans started making those future memes, you know what I'm saying? And like, and putting that out there, that wasn't something he was actively doing. Same with Brent Fias, bro. I've seen lots of toxic Brent Fias memes, you know what I'm saying? It's like once again, like fans feel like, hey, this song that you made fits a toxic situation. I'm going through. So to me, you are the toxic savior. You know what I'm saying? Like, you are making the soundtrack to that brick going through my window at 3 a.m. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, maybe that's not what you want, but that is what I as the fan see for you. That's what that's what it feels like. That's crazy because in this situation, I would say it worked out positively for him. Yeah, yeah. And he can find that to be annoying, but that's why he ain't trying to stop it. He ain't never came out to try to stop it. Making romantic love song, well, you know, like super, super romantic. No, and toxic stuff is to kill it. Like when he's going to make love. But like you say, he's kind of just talking about his life and where he is. Yeah, yeah. But man, imagine if the fans, fans, not even haters create a narrative that is detrimental to you because fans can do that unknowingly because it's just like short sighted and it might be something, you know, that grows and goes way beyond what it actually is in a negative way. Yeah, yeah. How do you manage that in your opinion? You can't feel like your camera. You got to hope and pray that your fans coming up with the memes and the jokes and the narratives that benefit you because you buy up a good point. Sometimes it's accidental, but sometimes a fan is just making a joke and it spreads out and now some outlet picks it up and it's looked like looked at as a serious thing. Do you remember a couple of years ago when they're technically a Travis Scott fan, but I want to say that we're content credit, but they put out this video of fake Travis Scott like cheating on college and that whole thing just spread running and it came out. The person was like, oh, this is just a joke. You know what I'm saying? I just put this together. I'm like, fans are wild, bro. Fans are willing to go to the extreme with some shit because it doesn't affect them, bro. If this shit blows the fuck up, like I got a cool clout moment out of it. And you the one got to deal with the backlash. It's just sometimes they use that power for good. Sometimes they use it for evil, bro. So that's why I said, I don't think there's anything you can do. You just have to hope that you're engaging and cultivating a group of people that like fuck with you. You know what I'm saying? And trying to at least not like put a negative narrative out there about you. But again, you know, they're trying not trying to they can. And I think that's what makes it so difficult today because. It goes back to DJ academics and Joe Budden talking about today's fan back. Well, it's probably 2017 now or whatever on every day struggle. I remember they were like, you know, Joe's buddy will be like, no, that is not a fan, you know, academics like, no, yeah, that's those fans. Dude, they'll show to your house and do some crazy shit. They'll get a window or some shit. Like, no, man, that ain't a fan. For me, by the way, I'm set up and built. No, that ain't a fan. Yeah, you're not going to get like, oh, I get it. You just like, I'm not going to be thinking of you in a positive way. If you make up some bullshit, like I cheated, right? Yeah, I get that you got your cloud for me from me. I might not even feel because I might say, oh, yeah, you're immature. And you're a certain place in life and whatever that age. Like he's that kind of age. You know, it was a grown, grown man. Hell, no, for sure. But I'd like to give you some grace and be like, I get about that. I'm not going to fuck with you still personally. We ain't taking no pics. You're not coming up on stage, you know, I'm not about to support the moment. But if you go against those moments, you know, you feed them as well. The way the internet works. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like it's such a delicate dance, right? Do I ignore it? Do I lean into it? Because sometimes the power and like laughing or leaning into it and just taking it away, right? And so it's such a situational thing. That's why I don't think there's a hundred percent, you know, way to ever just control it. I think it's something you most so have to just monitor and then have the I don't know, either just the the good gut feeling to know when to take a risk and, you know, like to either ignore, lean in or capitalize off of. But I just hope your fans just are not off of your blood. But it's crazy because I've seen other artist fans do it. Like when artist beef, you know what I'm saying? Like there's a there's a really popular, like Twitter page off all that. A Nikki fan page that like hates like a lot over a lot of rapper, a lot of and like I've just seen them post like crazy shit, you know what I'm saying? You'll see fans in the comments. It's like, wow, now I've seen I heard this, I heard this, I heard this. And when you just think like, where'd you hear that from? Like, who put that the information out of the right? But I don't put it past the fans to create matters. Because like I said, for a lot of them, I feel like this should artist lives to them or like a game, like a real life video game. Sometimes I think, right, is like we were talking about earlier with the fan and fans wanting to have a decision. This is a thing where like I can I can have this idea around you or of you. And I can see it have a real world impact on you, right? Like a game, but I can like, you know what I'm saying? 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Brandmannetwork.com. Check it out. Back to the video. And I think fans like that shit, bro. Like it's interesting from there. Think about it from their vantage point, bro. It's interesting, bro. Like I threw the pebble at the giant and I saw him flinch, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, oh, shit, you know what I'm saying? Like that, that got to you, right? So that's why I go back to it. I think it's about what type of people are you cultivating that pay attention to you? Because certain, you know, some fan bases breed toxicity. And you can tell like the fan bases just like crazy, bros. It's ugly over there. And then you see some fan bases where like their fans will never do anything crazy to their favorite artists, right? They would never, like you said, harass them somewhere or show up to their house or do certain things. So, you know, with people being people, some of it, you naturally can only control so much. But I do think it comes down to what type of people are you as an artist, attracting what type of base are you cultivating? You definitely curate that. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like you try to curate as positive an experience as you can. And then, you know, beyond that, man, you know, I just got off for the best. Yeah, yeah, I can see that. I can see that, man. I think the really interesting thing you said was throwing a pebble out of giant and making a flinch, right? And then at that moment, that dynamic changes because you go from superhero to somehow to realistic, realistic in my space. And now psychologically, I'm not even thinking about my fandom. I'm only thinking about how can I make you flinch again? How can I interact with you again? It's crazy, bro. Everything goes out the window. So, you know, that's that's that's real crazy. Well, fans can really be sadistic, bro. When you think about this, that should be crazy. Hell, yeah. Well, look, man, I want to end this thing out with some fun, two little quick subjects. You know what I mean? This one is inside joke. Oh, that was real quick. Oh, this is crazy. Yeah, come on, play. Oh, you got to understand. I may say inside joke. We had like 200 people say, ask him about his real voice. Like, what does that mean? Is that an inside joke? Nah, it's real. What they think your voice isn't real. I have a really. What the fuck? That's not how you really talk. That is my real voice. I just talk like this when I'm trying to like make music and make content and shit. But I really talk like this in real life. You can ask anybody. That's how I really talk. You talk like my family. I got my family and shit as that's what I think, man. I'm like, it hit too hard, man. It really got me. I didn't think it was going to go there at all. I don't know where I thought I was going to go when he said the real voice. But I am not so deep into the DDGG world. If I know it was like an inside joke and something he's done before. Oh, yeah, man, he's trolling, bro. But I'm like, this has to be a troll. But it was done so smoothly, right? And it was done on somebody else's platform that creates the extra organic nature that it was done and set up like that. It really made me like saying, I don't know. I don't know. Let me just put it on the pot. Maybe people in the comments will be a little bit of a no. No, bro, DDG is a genius issue like that, bro. I vouch for DDG for a minute, bro, like as content, credit or turn artist, or he's probably the best content, credit or turn artist.