 I've said this before and some people don't like it, but I'll say it again I think the argument can be made that given the sheer size the sheer scope of John MacArthur's ministry and all that goes along with it that God has used him in a greater way Than any other single individual since the apostolic era What everybody to the BCV channel, I am your host pass the seco woods Please do the following. Please like subscribe share hit that notification bell at the bottom of the video That way whenever I go live posting the content you'd be one of the first to view it Also, if you like to support this ministry financially and thank you those of you who have been so graciously and faithfully doing so We do appreciate that Thank you so much Words fail me to tell you how much I am full of gratitude and appreciation on behalf of my wife and that we do. 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So this is my first of three lives So this live stream will be one and then I have another live stream that I will be doing At 4 p.m. 5 p.m. Eastern Standard Time If you saw the thumbnail if you haven't seen the thumbnail go ahead and Go ahead and just take a peek At my channel and you will see what the thumbnail is For the four o'clock live stream if you know anything about who Ricky Smiley is and you see that character You can probably be bust out laughing and start cracking up But that's the mentality in the mindset that I see a lot of people Regarding this old John MacArthur situation Reminds me of so that's that's the title of this afternoon's stream And then later tonight I'm gonna close out the live by doing Another live summercast reaction to the The shepherds conference. This is the last day of the shepherds conference day three John MacArthur will be he's scheduled rather. He's scheduled to To preach and close out the conference if you saw him yesterday You should be just as concerned as I am regarding his condition and He was sitting down and If you've been following this whole situation as well, too, then you have questions You mean you have questions like I do Probably won't get any answers Because they're gonna, you know, his handlers are going to protect them at all costs so You're not gonna get any you're not gonna get any any response. Yeah, there you go, Leonzo Yep, little Daryl little Daryl. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, and he's still ill. I mean he's still ill So if you if you think about what they try to do with their psyops Having a picture of of him and miss Patricia On Twitter that they posted it Having them in the mountains come to find out based on reliable sources That wasn't in California that those pictures were taken as they would have you to believe those pictures were taken maybe months ago in Colorado Where MacArthur has his second home? His second home, I think he has three, but I know it definitely two one in Cali Actually, I seen it when I was hosted by a family who lived around a block from them and And the second home is in Colorado where his wife is Diagnosed with dementia which explains her absence there at at grace and her daughter is taking care It's taking care of her so anyway So you you have to ask ask ask the ask the question Ask yourself the question. How how can a man who is now sitting down? Was standing up Shortly after being admitted to the emergency room for blood clots and having stints in his heart and things of that nature, I mean It just it just causes you to to be concerned. I believe and so But nonetheless, you're gonna have people make excuses lie defend Deflect, you know, all of that to try to Curry for the idol and MacArthur is an idol to some if not many people within the reformed community It's unfortunate to say that even it's even unfortunate to to admit that And I was talking to another brother today and I said, is that not what Martin Luther was condemning? With the Roman Catholic Church in their system praising and venerating the Pope. I Mean, is that not what Martin Luther was one of the things he was going against was the papacy and How he condemned man worship how he condemned relics how he condemned People putting man on a pedestal. Is that not what Martin Luther condemned and what he fought against It looks like we have now our own Pope Not of the Roman Catholic kind, but of the evangelical kind and I didn't I didn't give him that name Todd Freel gave him that name He donned him with that title the evangelical Pope so And unfortunately the name fits the name fits the reason why I'm doing this particular video and I'll share the receipts shortly Later on in the video in the stream is because if you have been watching The the shepherds conference if you have been watching it matter of fact if you go on Twitter Listen, you're gonna swear you probably swear up and down that they're talking about a rock star or an R&B singer matter of fact if you saw the the comments that Steve Lawson made Regarding MacArthur stating that you know 5% of John MacArthur is worth more Than the whole evangelical church put together I Thought somebody's gonna throw a pair of reform panties on the stage That's what I was waiting for I was waiting for some I was waiting for somebody to throw their reform panties on the stage and start screaming like they would at a usher concert Or a teddy pettigrass concert or Justin Bieber Or at a Joe concert or at a Charlie Wilson concert. I was waiting for some panties to drop No, I was I was like, okay. Here we go Here we go Satin laced. I know what there's gonna have Box of panties. I mean what I know I mean because that's that's that's how I was looking. That's how I was sounding to me Like man, I thought they were gonna turn the lights down some more and Start putting on some candles and and you know putting the smokes smoke machine out there. I didn't know I Was getting kind of nervous You know I'm saying But you know if that wasn't enough If that wasn't enough Now who who in in an evangelical ism Who in christened them has their own drink? Who do you know? Has their own drink. I mean, you know, Jordan got his shoes Right, you know Apple got their symbol But This guy has his own fresco this this this brother Has its own he has his own drink Yes, he does Yes, he does His his image and his signature It's on a can a Fresco and y'all are just savaging the comments and Moses spoke to the rock and fresco poor Here we go y'all here we go with the comments Lord Luther Vandross playing in the background. I'm trying to tell y'all I Was like Hey Creep creep. That's what I thought he's gonna do Listen, I know they don't have no I know they don't play drums up in there So I was wondering if there's somebody come on with the bass Hey, I didn't know Hey Nothing at just listen nothing at this point should surprise us anymore You know, we we talk about Roman Catholics. We talk about charismatic. Listen, listen, we need to fall off of them Need to leave them alone You were farm cats Y'all shouldn't say anything about another movement about another matter fact matter fact y'all need to leave Ansbury alone Y'all y'all listen y'all need to shut up and leave Ansbury alone. Just just just stand down Because at least they're worse have been God At least at least that's what they're doing. I don't know what the heck y'all doing I mean at least at least we know who their songs are going to I Mean we at least know that I mean come on. I mean really I Mean this listen you you got you got people You got people tripping and dissing the Ansbury Revival I use air quotes or whatever You got people dissing them and at least They're gathered together to worship One person you reform cats You reform brethren Over in Cali at the Shepherd's Conference y'all y'all's worship is divided y'all y'all are worshiping with forked tongue Because some of y'all some of y'all's mental state was up in the air if you did not see The evangelical pope himself. Oh, I don't have to lie about it. I saw the footage. I've seen the video and prove me from wrong I mean listen Test me prove me Show me show me where I'm wrong at I'm just basing it on the facts. I don't have to go by feelings Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, look at these comments calling Jay Mac the shepherd of the Shepherd's Conference Listen He's an under shepherd of his local church. He ain't the shepherd of anybody else But but we let that just fly we let it fly over We let it fly over like a f-18 Yeah, and Angeberry listen. Yeah, Ashbury ain't remixing all all Langzine either Right Did I did not remixing that I Know did he was the was the choir director at Shepherd's Conference? Take that take that. I didn't know he was I know he was the choir director When y'all when y'all get diddy to come to the Shepherd's Conference and remix the hymns When y'all when y'all start doing that I know that Y'all y'all got me just all messed up this week y'all surprising the heck out of me over there chef con But we won't talk about Angeberry You see you see how blind our judgment is when it comes to When it comes to our own sin and our own hypocrisy you see you see how we you see how we move Y'all see I mean this this is this is why a lot of people don't take us seriously Because they see through the they see through the veneer of our Hypocrisy They see right through it and see I'm just one of the ones that's gonna tell you straight And that's why I would never be invited to sit at the reform cool kids table I would never be invited to speak at any of their conferences. I would never be invited to speak at any of their churches Because I'm gonna call it straight up and down like six o'clock. I mean You can get mad What you can't you can't accuse me of is lying Especially when I drop receipts you feel me so I Come to you all today because I'm addressing an issue one of several one of many of The hypocrisy the bias the favoritism the man worship the idolatry Not of the Roman Catholic Church Not of the Mormon movement Not of the Jehovah Witnesses Mm-hmm. No, no, not not of the Muslim of Islam Mm-hmm, not of New Age. Nope Not at all The idolatry within The reformed the reformed movement the very the very movement the very Denomination by which They every October 31st celebrates Reformation day. How are you? How are you celebrating Reformation Day and you are? Worshiping venerating Idolizing another man Make that make sense to me. I mean bring the cookies down from the top shelf so I can get a bite Bring them cookies down so everybody can dunk their cookie in the milk Make that make sense to us because I don't get it make that make sense to me Justin Mean you're one of the main ones You're one of the main ones Like, oh my goodness Your statement listen, I don't know which one is more idolatrous and maybe I should have took a poll And maybe I'll do a poll here and you guys can tell me Which one is the most idolatrous are they both do they both run neck and neck Justin Peters statement regarding John McArthur being used greater than anybody else after after post the apostolic era or Steve Lawson The five percenter I'm stuck. That's what I'm start calling Steve Lawson now. He has I'm start calling him the five percenter He's the five percenter That's his name from now on Steve Lawson aka the five percenter. That's his name His name is the five percenter Steve Lawson because he said five percent Not listen not even ten percent. He didn't even want to give us a tide of Of J. Mack. He said five percent of J. Mack is worth more than the in listen then the entire Evangelical world Do you hear me Do you hear me He said J. Mack a fellow Image bearer yet made of the same dirt you and I are made of a Fellow slave on the same plantation that you and I Are on He says five percent of him is better than all of us all y'all The entire evangelical community put together. I mean that's that is a very cashew II statement That's a very macadamian nut statement That is a very wall nutty in statement. I just want y'all to let that sink in just just for a nanosecond Because if you're more offended because of the thumbnails that I put up Or you're more offended because I call these people out Then you're showing me where your loyalty lies Because I'm like Paul in Galatians chapter 4 Verse 16 have I become your enemy because I tell you the truth Am I the one now you beefing with because I'm telling you the truth because I'm calling this stuff out because I I'm standing on the wall of my Lord's Wall and I am seeing What the enemy is doing and he really is not doing it from without he's doing it from within I'm not the one that's being divisive. I'm like I'm like Elijah I'm not that I am not the troubler of Israel. No, I'm not These guys are they just don't want us to call out the trouble Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so why am I here if I'm not even worth the fresco can David you said someone called you a heretic when you pointed out the idolatry of J. Mac on Docks, you know, watch the off-channel. Well, I mean, yeah, they're mean listen, I Keep telling anybody you don't have to worry about the Roman Catholic Church We we have our own issues in the body of Christ, but Let me let me just set the stage Because the verses are going to be looking at throughout this live So again, hope you all can join me and stay with me for throughout the day But we're gonna talk about idolatry and in this live. We're gonna talk about Justin Peters We're gonna talk about the fan boy himself Justin Peters, but first Let's go to get scripture Let's look at scripture Galatians chapter 6 and verse 3 For if anyone thinks he has something when he has nothing he deceives himself But each one must examine his own work and then he will have reason for boasting in regard to himself alone and not in regard to another Do you see what what Paul says? If anyone thinks assumes he is something when he has nothing he deceives himself in other words, you ain't all that Examine your own work And this boasting is not it's not to be done in the flesh this is one of the problems that I have with people like Justin Peters and the five percenter Steve Lawson Because these people have put John MacArthur on such a high pedestal and listen, I'm not even tripping about MacArthur He's not the issue. The issue is are the people that Are making him to be something that God says he's not that's that's the problem But MacArthur is not out the out the weeds though, either You know why he's not out the weeds because what is he saying to curtail this? What is he saying to deflect this is the question I? Agree wrong. I totally agree sir, but this isn't MacArthur saying this about himself. I agree. I agree But what is MacArthur saying about those saying these things about himself? See, that's the question that I'm asking because I have yet and it get listen Great me from wrong. I will stand corrected If someone can point to me sermons Now just a little not just a little pithy statement that MacArthur may have said no, no, no There's like that. Listen, just like they do because I have yet to hear this. I have yet to see this too just like to do Conferences on election like they're doing now It's like how many times how how many time can you refry and reheat and recook and repackage Romans 9? It's like I got it. We are the elect with a call out ones. Yeah. Yeah, God chose us Got it. The memo been given out. We got the memo. I got the email got it What else is in these 66 books John? What also are any 66 books Steve what are what also are these 66 books feel voting HB? What else? Surely there's something else in the in the word of God Other than the fact that we elect is that what I've spent? hundreds if not a whole stack Four to come to a conference just to be told something that I've already been told and taught the year prior Is it is there something else that we need to know? Just ask him Just asking and and I agree with you on this point, bro Here's the problem in the sense in the sense of What is he doing to? Dissuade this I get you on that but He's not putting a gun to anybody's head and telling these people to do this That that's my point So so in in one in one regard MacArthur is responsible for the fanfare and the man worship he's receiving but the flip side of that coin is What man is doing and I'm gonna show you a script in just a minute See that's that's the issue. I'm looking at I Mean MacArthur, you know to be fair MacArthur putting a gun to these people's head telling them to do this stuff That's that's my point But he but he is responsible when he observes and when he sees this stuff going on What is this response when he see people? You know praising him and and going all out of their way to be in his presence to behold all his glory What are they doing? How should they respond they shouldn't respond like that and MacArthur definitely shouldn't be accepting this I Have yet to hear in the sea of sermon or a Series or a conference of these guys teaching and talking about deflecting the devotion of worship You know like Paul did Yeah, you know like Paul and Barnabas did when they when they were being worshipped for doing good things for people We'll get to it in a minute. How was their response? Nothing like we see at the shepherds conference And and nothing like we see here. I think the argument can be made I've said this before and some people don't like it, but I'll say it again because I believe it I Think the argument can be made that given the sheer size The sheer scope of John MacArthur's ministry and all that goes along with it that God has used him In a greater way Than any other single individual Since the apostolic era Well, Ron my question to you my brother is this where It needs to be posted they post everything else Ron they post everything else They post everything else Ron they post everything else They talk about Beth more like she's a like she's a member at grace They talk about Beth more like they know her they do Q&A's About her they do Q&A's about women pastors. They do Q&A's about women in authority They do Q&A's about women in leadership whole Q&A's Whole entire workshops these people do All I'm saying is Where's the balance? Why aren't they keeping that same energy when it comes to the very thing that everybody in their mom is seeing and that is man worship? That's all I'm saying And if somebody can point me to a sermon Point me to a lecture a session a Q&A a general session Where they have been consistently Talking about this then I'll stand down and I'll shut up and I'll put up a public retraction to my statement But I ain't talking about no one-time pithy statement I'm talking about them seeing this issue as a problem. It is pervasive. It is incessant Proverbs bro, bro dude So I ain't the only one seeing this then right I'm not the only one seeing this They treat this woman bra. Listen, I Said MacArthur need to go home too. He need now now he needs to go home Yeah, yeah, he needs to go home now. You're telling Beth more to go home, sir You need to wrap it up. It's time to go home sir. You've amassed your millions You've accumulated your wealth You and your family are good. Everybody know this now. We've seen the WASC report We've seen the financials here. We got it. You you you you're sitting pretty good Pastor John So you're not hurting for no bread So, what's the reason? What's the reason? What's really going on? Why don't you step down and one of the words that they use which I agree in The Q&A that they had yesterday Providence is it possible just asking all I'm doing is asking questions ladies and gentlemen Is it possible that God in his providence is allowing all of these things to happen to John MacArthur for him to get the Clufon to sit down somewhere. I mean why does Providence only apply To others and not to the elect. I'll wait. I'll wait. Nobody want to talk to me today. Yeah, I'm Fully rested y'all. I'm fully rested I'm ready to get it. Let's go I'm ready to go y'all. Oh Yeah, I Have questions that I know are not going to be answered by Justin by Steve by Phil By none of them and these are the same ones that want people to sit down and have a conversation with them These are the same ones These are the same ones that tell people like Michael Brown Beth Moore The charismatic community the word fit these are the same people that go after these groups and Say that they need to be willing to be held accountable But but but when are we held accountable about about what we do and When will MacArthur and these other men be held accountable for the things they have done and the things that they have said because I have yet to see I Have yet to see one of them Publicly hold John MacArthur accountable for the things that he has said and the things that he has done talk about Equal weights and measures talk about prior rips 11-1. My goodness, but how should how should John or I or any person who is in leadership who has influence who has a sense of Responsibility to people and how they are taught Well, I believe the word of God gives us an example. I believe the word of God Which is the final authority? Provides us with quite a few examples, but one I think was suffice act chapter 14 verse 8 acts 14 verse 8 Are we are we good? We good at Lystra A man who was sitting who had no strength in his feet lame from his mother's womb Who had never walked so he was he was disabled from birth y'all, okay? This man was listening to Paul as he spoke Who when he had fixed his gaze on him and that scene that he had faith to be made well Said with a loud voice stand up right on your feet and He leaped up and began to walk and that's a miracle, right? That's that's a miracle. We would all agree. That's a miracle, right? So this is something that was done publicly Right. We see this in the text verse 11 When the crowd saw what Paul had done They raised their voice saying in the Lyconian language the gods have become like men and have come down to us Is that what we all say that this is man worship so far? Well, we all what we all agree with that that this is a That this is man worship We would agree, right? They all say this in their own language the Lyconian language The gods have become like men and have come down to us They call it they're calling Paul and Barnabas God's incarnate plural God's incarnate verse 12 and they began calling Barnabas Zeus And Paul Hermes why because he was the chief speaker The priest of Zeus whose temple was just outside the city was just it was just outside the city brought oxen and Garlands to the gates and wanted to offer Sacrifice with the crowd so now they got somebody in an authority spiritual authority look See what verse 13 says the priest of Zeus Whose temple was just outside the city brought oxen and garlands to the gates and wanted to offer sacrifice with the crowd verse 14 but when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of it when they listen when they heard this Notice what they did they didn't receive it. They rejected it They tore their robes That was that that was a sign of physical Disgust or disdain or grief or sadness toward the robes Worst out into the crowd Crying out and saying so not only did they see it, but they said something about it Come on talk to me y'all talk to me. Do we see this in the text? It's one thing to see idolatry come on But it's another thing to say something about it It's right here in the text It's right here in the text. I'm waiting for Shepherds conference to teach on this. I'm waiting for g3 to teach on this I'm waiting for the who's who and who's what and the who that to teach on this Notice and you know, you know another thing I see in the text. Thank you, Holy Spirit You know nothing I see in the text verse 14 It wasn't it wasn't just one person seeing and saying something about it both of these men Saw the sin of idolatry of man worship of man pleasing and they both in conjunction and in union and in unity Said something and did something about it verse 14 when the Apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of it. They tore their robes and rushed out into the crowd Crying out and saying you see that. I hope y'all see this Look the verb tense present active participle. It wasn't just one time. They said something No, no, no, they kept saying the more these people tried to worship them the more they rejected it Present active partisan, but this is they're doing it. They kept on doing it And it didn't stop Doing it doing what verse 15 Saying men, why are you doing these things? We are also men of the same nature as you and preach the gospel to you That you should turn from these vain things to a living God who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and All that is in them In the generations gone by he permitted all the nations to go their own ways And yet he did not leave himself without a witness and that he did good and gave you reigns from heaven and fruitful seasons satisfying your hearts with food and gladness But notice even with this Even with this even saying these things with difficulty Not not impossibility Just difficult Even saying these things right here Same part of simple Even saying these things With difficulty they restrained the crowds Catapult they restrained the crowds. They made them stop Offering sacrifices to them They may cannot cannot cannot bring it. Can I bring it down? Can I bring it home? Can I can I bring it home to y'all for a second? Can I can I can I bring it back to y'all for just a second? In other words, they made them stop Making frescoes With their images on it They made them stop Having men standing in long lines Autographing their Bible they made them stop Breaking each other's necks rushing down the aisle to get a front row seat near their nearest favorite speaker Why why did it make them stop? because they just said Right cheer verse 15 We are also men of the same nature as you That's why see ladies and gentlemen people and Peepettes When you and I have a biblical anthropology Then we're gonna have a biblical doxology We would never give glory To man because we know glory goes to the one who made all men and that is God See, this is this is a a doxological problem here But but but these guys were never admitted They'll never admit it. No cuz cuz to admit it means now they got to repent This this is more listen. This is more than just MacArthur and the Shepherds conference This is a gospel issue. This is a doxological issue Who gets the glory? Who gets it? and Then if you get it, what are you doing when you get it? Because all of us gets appreciated and gets praised every now and then we all do My question to you is this and this is for me. This is for all of us Are you a receptor or are you a deflector? Do you do you receive it? Or do you or are you the kind of person who deflects it? You push it off. Uh-huh Praise God. Thank you. Guess this that's what I do One of the practical things I strive to do in my life is when someone Congratulates me or when someone shouts me out or when someone says or does something or or, you know Gives me a compliment praises me. What if you want to do whatever term you want to use? I make I make it my business by God's grace to say Praise God first Praise God Thank you. How many of you in the comments in the comments when you have said something to me or have Complimented me about something Have have, you know giving me my flowers top side, whatever, right? How many of you have seen me say or type? Praise God Thank you How many of you seen that I do it for myself But I also do it for my brothers and sisters Because I'm trying to teach them as I'm teaching myself I'm trying to teach my brothers and sisters. Hey When not not just if you get it, but when you and I get glory when you and I get Compliments when you and I get praise you better give it back to the one who is due You better deflect it You bet you bet it you better toss it you bet you better treat listen treat praise like a hot potato I'm giving it away. Mm-hmm. That that right. That's too hot. I'm giving it to God. I'm giving it to God Because does not Paul tell the Corinthians? What do you have that you didn't receive and if you received it? Why do you boast as if you didn't receive it? All of us are receivers of everything we got Therefore, there is no reason for a man like Justin Peters or Steve Lawson aka to five percent of To ever put a man on a higher pedestal Than where God has already placed him. He's already placed us above the animal kingdom. That's enough That's enough That is enough That's as high as we need to go But no, no, no, no, no not these guys What these guys want to do? They want to create confusion Which now Causes jealousy and envy and then it has people looking at themselves were like dang What's what's wrong with my pastor? What's wrong with this? I mean listen, this is a problem This is a huge problem. We don't see We don't see Paul and Barnabas receiving the glory and Horting it and keeping it for themselves They're rejecting it The more these people try to give it to them the more they push back the more they reject it Because they know what that does it makes you and I think that we're there With that man with a dude you say why did I call Steve Lawson the five percenter? Yeah, you got to watch it's an inside joke if you heard his comment. I just don him the five percenter You'll get it. Hopefully if you watch the video But let's go back to the text They're rejecting the worship the text says verse verse 18 with difficulty they restrained the crowds from them offering sacrifice to them, right? You see that But what's but would say even saying these things with difficulty? They restrained the crowds from offering sacrifice To them. I don't and that's why I agree with my brother. I Agreed that there's a there's a dual responsibility But at the same time MacArthur is not putting a gun to these people's head and making them do this stuff He's not garnishing their check and having their checks being sent to the Shepherds conference to make them come there But also he is responsible on how he is receiving this kind of worship So I agree with my brother testimonies and I mean testaments and testimonials. I agree with him There's a balance to this though What what maybe it's just me, but I doubt if it is I'm seeing a serious imbalance when it comes to this issue In the reform community They're the main ones that are quick to jump and quick to attack and quick to do To make statements to have people sign statements regarding Woke-ism and CRT having churches and and and Pastors and teachers sign a Dallas statement wherever they was called social justice statement So don't tell me that they can't see issues. No, they choose to see what certain issues they want to see And if you think idolatry is less important then social justice Then you sir you ma'am are the problem the last I checked Social justice doesn't see you the hell but idolatry does Last time I checked. I mean last time I checked. I don't know about anybody else what you've read But last I checked. Yeah Idolatry is what sends you and I to hell, but Justin he seems not to care about that you look at The commentary he's written an entire commentary set on the adjustment Hmm No, he didn't Justin He didn't write those commentaries Those commentaries were written for him and he has Slapped his name on there. Oh, and if y'all don't believe me, there's plenty of receipts that can that can substantiate and And cement what I've already said and though what I know to be true. Dr. Dennis Swanson is one 25 years working at the master's University Master's Seminary He was one of the contributors of the study Bible and several of the Men who had not received credit let alone Renumeration for it McRoth they said it himself Remember I played the clip Go back to my video early this week. I Played the clip McRoth himself said That he spent 14 hour days 14 hour days Writing every footnote. He said it. I didn't say it. He said that I Didn't say it only to be found that that was a lie. Don't believe me Pull up the WASC report WASC as in Charlie put the WASC report and this is what we are Getting mad at me about Because I'm pointing out the obvious Calling out the hypocrisy calling out the a dollar the idolatry. No, you heard wrong kneeling You heard you definitely heard wrong. You definitely heard wrong MacArthur did not a right The majority of that work is not MacArthur's pen And now and not only that Why put your name to something that you yourself? Know that you are not responsible in doing because his name sales You put when MacArthur puts his name onto something. This is be real When MacArthur puts his name to something it sells It gets credit It's collateral He puts his name on a ford of a book or as an endorsement It's as good as sold his name carries weight in these evangelical streets That's just the fact and that's not that's not hating. That's just that's just being factual so again He didn't write all these commentaries these commentaries and these study these study Bibles The majority of the work did not but it was not from his it was not from his hand And please don't talk to me about our ghost writers We're talking about ethics here. We're talking about integrity here We're talking about what does the Bible say the Bible says we're to do all things number one to the glory of God And then what to do with to do things so as we don't bring reproach upon ourselves and upon the name of Christ I don't think no he didn't say he was in jail He said he went to the Lorraine motel when Mac when it was a MacArthur when MLK was was killed He stood on the toilet and all this kind of stuff and saw where he all there was a lie All that was a lie Charles Evers Refuted what he said regarding that. Yeah, you want to put yeah, pull it up put pull it up kneeling Pull it up. He did not write The new cat the New Testament commentaries and the study and the notes of the study Bible That's not his work It's not his work very little of that work belongs to MacArthur majority of it the majority of it if y'all saw my interview Dick Mayhew Is responsible for the majority of this stuff You're stating the facts But let's continue when you look at the ministry of grace to you gty.org when you look at the master's seminary and all of them Who knows how many men? thousands of men that they have trained To be exposters of scripture to be pastors how to shepherd a church and these men have gone out Out all over the world the master's academy international I think God has used John MacArthur in a greater way to champion All of these things to champion expository preaching to champion biblical churches sound theology sound doctrine to recover The doctrine and the practice of church discipline and I'll ask him about that in the interview that was unheard of Until John MacArthur came along My mic is not muted. I'm just Church discipline was unheard of until MacArthur came along. I want I want to just cut everything off I just want to cut everything off. I want to quit I Want to quit I can't I can't make this stuff up. Okay. I can't I cannot make this stuff up If I told y'all that he said it without dropping the receipt, you wouldn't believe me That's why that's why I'm pausing. That's why I'm not saying nothing. Oh, let me do that What do you want me to do with that? Did y'all hear what this man just said? I mean did y'all did y'all hear what this man said? He said church discipline church discipline Was unheard of This man said church discipline was unheard of until macArthur came along Lord have mercy. Jesus. Are you serious? I listen listen. I don't listen. I wouldn't care what movement he was referring to The man basically said That church discipline started when John MacArthur came on the scene And I know that's a lie because what do you do with spurgeon? What do you do with? Here's the thing right now. Here's the thing. Listen. Listen. Here's the thing You know how when you prepare any of you content creators out here know what I'm talking about or or anybody that may have Heard some before you add, you know, let somebody else hear it It's not like I didn't hear this before But it just seems to hit different to me As I'm playing it back again now It's just the ridiculousness and the idolatry Is hitting a little bit different for me So, you know how you try to help somebody but it's like, you know, bro I don't know if I can help you with this one. I I don't know if I can even phone a friend for you because Are you are you talking about? After the apostolic age Because then if you if you if you referring to that Then what do you do with the church fathers? What do you do? What do you do with them? I'm just I'm just saying, you know, I'm sitting here in utter A stylist man. I am befuddled um He won't come off the heat I've already tagged them and and listen stay tuned ladies and gentlemen Stay tuned because you're gonna you're gonna see how all of this popped off How all of this set everything right now in motion. I was trying to lead this man alone This man rolled up on me No pun intended And tried to come for me on twitter Why he do that? Now why you want to go and do that love, huh? Why you want to go do why you do that? Did you honestly think that I was going to sit back and let you this just clown me and try to sneak this me And try to check me Over something that I know you don't know what you're talking about. No, that's not how that goes Yes, these are clips from when Justin interviewed John. Yes. Yes, it is sir. Yes, sir Yes, sir Yes, sir Proverbs Let not another one of you bring up another fact about church discipline pre John MacArthur Not let not nary one of you bring up Another point to refute what Justin Peters said Regarding church discipline Being put on the map because of John MacArthur I'm gonna show it to you I'm gonna show it to you Listen, all of us have our moments sister terry And welcome to the channel. All of us have our moments All I want all I want you to do all I want all of us to do is is is just just just take in what he just said Neland listen bro, I know you bro. I know you be trying to help him bro. You can't help him on this one chief You can't you you cannot listen. I tried He he said it Do y'all want me to play it back If you want me to play it back to say yeah play it back run it back say go we will we're glutton for punishment If you want me to run it back again, I'll run it back again for y'all But it ain't gonna be any less brutal than what you first heard it heard it sound. I'm just saying I almost spit out my coffee DC said no my wife to my yeah, it's y'all to my running back. Okay y'all listen you asked for it You asked for it. Here we go When you look at the ministry of grace to you gty.org when you look at the master's seminary and all of them Who knows how many men thousands of men that they have trained To be expositors of scripture to be pastors how to shepherd a church and these men have gone Out all over the world The master's academy international I think god has used john mccarthur in a greater way to champion All of these things to champion expository preaching To champion biblical churches sound theology sound doctrine to recover The doctrine and the practice of church discipline and i'll ask him about that in the interview that was unheard of Until john mccarthur came along Let me ask you all this question. Let me let me ask this question When I asked these people to to cam up with me Why y'all don't why y'all think they didn't want to come on? Especially if i've already told them i'm going to i would like for you to respond to your statements I'm not going to play any aha. I'm not going to do any of that I'm going to play your stuff I'm going to run your comments And all I want you to do is to respond either to clarify Or to condemn What you said Why don't they why don't why won't they pull up? I invited justin peters Justin has no problem going on my brother Uh, uh, Cory minus channel How come you can go on Cory channel? But you can't come on mine is because i'm black That's a joke y'all I'm just i'm just asking the question And and let me give y'all a little bit of history a little history behind justin peters and I I met justin peters personally Met justin peters personally had him on my podcast back in the day my wife can attest to this when I was doing blog talk radio I'm like what blog talk? What is that? I know I know I know I know I know when I say i'm not new at this. I mean that so Justin peters know He knows who seco woods is he knows who I am And justin peters know how I get down Well, why are you and why are you and justin aren't cool anymore? I'm glad y'all asked various student audience you are the reason why justin peters and I are no longer cool is because justin peters Wanted to check me and wanted to correct me regarding a video that kevin oliver did against me You know the wacko the the the idiot the clown that came to my house Back in 2000 and what was that 2000 maybe what 13 give or take pulled up in my house made a video Lied about my ministry lied about my my character out lied about my reputation Clips and soundbites, you know the same thing that that the thief in the temple. Michael Williams did and because I clapped back wasn't in the flesh but because I responded to that because I Defended my name and my reputation and my ministry and my and my integrity and my character, you know Same thing that jesus did same thing that peter and the apostles did the same thing that paul did yeah He didn't like the way that I did it So we had a phone conversation and we fell out Simple as that That's all I was but also because This was during a time that when I had fray price jr And he was chomping at the bit for me to have Him bring him on to the live when I had fray price jr on I told him no No Because I knew what jesson peter's was about and I was moving in a different lane And I didn't want to bring somebody that I already knew that was notorious for trying to Clown and trying to drag Certain people in the word of faith movement or which who I believe my my my brother my friend Fray price jr. He's not of that ilk God has been doing some things in his life We disagree on some things, but that's still my brother But since I knew that it would not be a good time or a good look I I didn't I didn't give him that opportunity but because I didn't move the way jesson peter's wanted me to move regarding a heretic and a slanderer and a scoffer He pulled away and disassociated himself from me. I'm just giving y'all some history and some context So jesson knows exactly who I am And the video that he was basically telling me that I should not have responded the way that I did Which I vehemently disagree with him on That whole video that whole report that that kevin oliver did that clown Was debunked by deion evans live Who was a true journalist and what he did was he went back to all of these sources? That kevin oliver claimed that he spoke with in every last one of them Including justin peters Oh, you don't believe me go to my listen go to the archives All you gotta do is run my archives. It's in there It's in there You can pull up the one that says the seco woods does pastor seco woods have a restraining order Pull that one up. That'll be a hoop exactly dear And that is the response of most when they when you don't do what they want you to do Yeah That's the story of my life When I don't jump through the hoops and dance the way these people want me to dance They they they back away from me and I'm like man get out of my face with that. You don't run me You didn't die for me so pull up Pull up the video It's on youtube. I purposely put it on there and I also have it on my sermon audio channel my sermon audio page This pastor seco woods have a restraining order See the bible says the wicked flea when norm pursues with the rights of the voters lying I challenge kevin oliver to a public debate. He he backed out He punked tuck tail and ran but because justin peters in like how I got down and how I moved Bro, I'm from I'm from Detroit. I'm not from the burbs Like justin is So how you deal with false teachers and how you deal with accusations justin ain't how I move. I'm not built like that I'm built different so ladies and gentlemen, that's how Justin and I aren't cool. It's not because I don't have you know, love for the brother. I do But you're not gonna check me you're not gonna try to send me and try to tell me how I'm gonna move in the Dimension that God gave me to move in That'll never happen with these people And thank God I didn't because now I see what this is about These people don't call out the stuff that John McArthur does Again, when have you seen any of them call out the stuff that John McArthur does name one Name one Yeah, that's what they do. Yeah, and then they side with those who don't like me When before they were all in support of me. Listen, it was all good a week ago Yeah, it's it's doido proverbs. What up though, but Just want to give you some background on some context to it. Okay. That's all Because I don't want you to think that this is quote-unquote personal. No, this this is all biblical with me all of it If I were to see Justin Peters on the street or see Justin Peters at an event I would have no problem, you know saying anything anything to him At all, but I know Justin Peters is a fraud. I know Justin Peters is it's fake And I know Justin Peters is mad because service Christie exposed him along with the rest of the ilk And I agree with service Christie in every girl because he dropped mad receipts See when you have receipts There's nothing to be mad about Oh, it's coming Ron. It's coming my brother. Just stand stand the stand stand stand by it's definitely coming It's definitely coming But let's let's let's let's play some more of these clips So just the sheer scope Of this I think god has used in his providence has chosen to use john mccarthur in a greater way than any other single individual in the apostolic air He said it again He said it again He said it again So just the sheer scope Of this I think god has used in his providence has chosen to use john mccarthur in a greater way than any other single individual in the apostolic era in the apostolic era how do you know that Justin are you the fourth member of the Trinity whereby you have now made a panoramic view throughout church history and redemptive history and you can you can say that you can say you can say with a straight face that MacArthur has been used more than any other person in the apostolic era yeah and listen I would have no problem just with that alone at least because right there that's true yeah yeah yeah yeah yes dear than any other any other oh I can't make this up y'all with such a sizable platform and the scope of his ministry he's a big target the bigger minister you have the bigger target you become and and he's got a lot of critics and but here's an interesting observation a couple of them that I've noticed because I see it in my own ministry as well even though on a smaller scale because my ministry is not near the size of his so but I still see the same thing the angriest loudest critics are either people who come from theological circles that are opposed to what you believe so for example John MacArthur's critics some of his loudest critics come from Arminians come from egalitarians in other words people who believe that a woman can preach and teach and pastor just like a man can do come from Charismatics come from you know theological circles that are opposed to the things he believes so it's quite natural to expect that your critics would come from those circles I'm not surprised when I get criticism from word of faith folks for example so that's that's part of them but there's another part and I would say the angriest people the loudest people the nastiest people the people who quite honestly the least truthful people the people who would take half truths and twist them the people who have a clear agenda and just have a hatred for you know John MacArthur or whoever in my cases as well those kind of folks the angriest folks they come from no church accountability they have no church that they are a part of they have no church accountability and it's very ironic that people who would criticize you for how you do church or how you teach or the things you believe would come from folks who have no church background themselves who had no we're not maybe a background but have no church accountability themselves so I think that's very ironic and it's true and with John MacArthur and it's true with my ministry as well Justin you said a lot you said a lot and none of that none of that qualifies to me not one I'm not egalitarian I do attend a church remember but a local church not angry so this is a it's called a straw man Justin it's called a straw man and here's here's the thing let's just say Justin let's just say every category you made in regards to people's criticism of MacArthur were true let's just say they came from those motives as as you claim since you're you're you're the fourth member of the Trinity as you claim let's say that they are angry let's say that they're bitter let's say that you got a tearing let's say that they are Armenian all those all those different categories that you mentioned so what and is that the qualifier by which we are to make decisions whether or not something is true or or or are we to do with the word of God says right here first Thessalonians 5 21 but examine everything carefully hold fast to that which is good verse 22 abstain abstain from every form of evil hmm so question Justin God says we're to test everything hold fast that which is good in other words whatever is true is that not what the Philippians said let's go there let's let's let's go to Philippians says I'm talking about it might as well go there Philippians 4 verse 8 and 9 finally brethren what's over things are true honest just pure lovely of good report of any virtue of any praise what does he say does he say rejected or to think on these things we know this right if it's true first of all that's where it starts it starts there Justin he says if it's true it first must be true if it's true then we proceed it's not it detects and say if it's an egalitarian or if it's an Armenian or if it's someone who does not have or is not under church authority the qualifier the criteria Justin is if it's true is it true then we're to hold fast to it if it's true then it would to retain it that's what the Bible says Justin and you should know you being a seminarian you disappoint me sir you disappoint me Philippians 115 some to be listen some to be sure are preaching Christ even from envy and strife but some also from good will the latter do it out of love notice Paul is dealing with the motivations the latter do it out of love knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel hmm but notice we desess verse 17 the former proclaiming Christ out of selfish ambition so Justin let's say your statements are true Paul says the former proclaimed Christ out of selfish ambition rather than from pure modus thinking to cause me distress in my imprisonment what then only that in every way whether in pretense or in truth Christ is preached Christ is proclaimed in this I rejoice yes I will rejoice Justin what are you talking about sir what are you talking about you're deflecting you're deflecting sir this is a straw man you really need to stop it you really need to fall back on this sucking up to another man it doesn't make you look good at all it really makes you look bad so just the sheer scope with such a sizable platform and the scope of his ministry he's a big target the bigger ministry you have the bigger target you become and and he's got a lot of critics but here's an interesting observation a couple of them that I've noticed because I see it in my own ministry as well even though on a smaller scale because my ministry is not near the size of his so but I still see the same thing the angriest loudest critics are either people who come from theological circles that are opposed to what you believe so for example John MacArthur's critics some of his loudest critics come from Armenians come from egalitarians in other words people who believe that a woman can preach and teach and pastor just like a man can do come from charismatic come from you know theological circles that are opposed to the things he believes so it's quite natural to expect that your critics would come from those circles I'm not surprised when I get criticism from word of faith folks for example so that's that's part of them but there's another part and I would say the angriest people the loudest people the nastiest people the people who quite honestly the least truthful people the people who will take half truths and twist them the people who have a clear agenda and just have a hatred for you know John MacArthur or whoever in my cases as well those kind of folks the angriest folks they come from no church accountability they have no church that they are a part of they have no church accountability and it's very ironic that people who would criticize you for how you do church or how you teach or the things you believe would come from folks who have no church background themselves who have no we're not maybe a background but have no church accountability themselves so my question then is who is MacArthur accountable to who's MacArthur accountable to Justin please don't say the elders please don't say that because Elder Han Cho can attest that that's not true Dr. Dennis Swanson can attest that that's not true and several other elders if they were not afraid of losing their pensions and losing their livelihood would also say that that's not true so so you want to talk about accountability who who is who is John MacArthur accountable to I wait he's not accountable to the 36 elders 37 that looks good on paper but in practice most are afraid to say anything others want to but they are in a very bad spot and I understand it but eventually a stand is going to have to be made because lives are being destroyed by this man's ministry abuse and things of that nature. Dave you said you know it almost sounds like he is saying if you belong to a church that has elders in church discipline you better not speak a word against me yeah I mean they try to try to use these little these little you know undercover tactics and intimidating tactics I was telling somebody I said bro I don't I don't care who you are lame or with the legs you come from me I'm going to respond and that's why I'm responding to Justin his condition matters not to me. I do not know John MacArthur as well as do many I've been around him some I do consider him a friend he by God's grace considers me one of his friends but I don't know him all that well personally I have not there are many many others who know John MacArthur far better than do I well wait wait wait wait I had to stop the tape I had to stop the tape I had to stop the tape did y'all hear what he said he don't even know this man like this he doesn't even know MacArthur and the reason listen and the reason why he got the interview is because of who he knows Phil Johnson Phil Johnson that's why exactly proverbs why why are you caping for him you know listen we know why we we already know why because it keeps it keeps the money flowing y'all it's ain't about the gospel it's ain't about the gospel at all listen out of his own mouth he said it I don't have to make up anything all I'm doing is dropping the receipts like I'm doing now I do not know John MacArthur as well as do many I've been around him some I do consider him a friend he by God's grace considers me one of his friends but I don't know him all that well personally I have not there are many many others who know John MacArthur far better than do I but I do know a lot of people very very well who know John very very well if that makes sense and something that I've noticed about everybody that I know who knows him very well they all say the same thing about him they all say he is one of the kindest most generous and humble people they've ever met uh yeah before I respond to Justin's statement testaments and testimonials do what you wish with a atrium because let me just go ahead and say uh and respond to this real quick uh atrium's ending since I know you're not going to come up and you're probably a troll let me go and just respond to this lie right now I have never spent five years not attending a church never ever but see if you were a Christian if you were born of the spirit if or if you were spirit field you would never make such a demonic slanderous state satanic statement like that where you're getting your intel from see if you were if you were a real man I'm going to consider you to be a man or just a male if you really had a testicular fortitude a pair of cashews then you would come up see I told you I got all day all right listen this is what I do now y'all this is what I do if you if you really got the pistachios then you would come up and produce your receipts if not we're going to go ahead and escort you and put you out the door simple as that because you're you're really on some clown stuff any accusation that I make I produce receipts I produce receipts you can't you can't I've never ever been out of a church for five years so moderators put in where he belongs please go ahead put in where it belongs you can send him right where he needs to go just go I'll just go with that so let me let me just go ahead and respond to what Justin said if you heard the statement again how Justin is caping for this man he does not know he doesn't know MacArthur and then says that the people he's talked to says that MacArthur is the most gracious nice generous okay would Eileen Grace say that how about Wendy Gray would she would she say that I'm just asking well would these women say that and that's just listen and that's just the people that we know prior to me doing this live I found out about another story that I just I didn't even see I didn't even notice and it was in the same report and I had I had not happened to read it until last night and I'm like my goodness this this this is not a one-time issue this thing has been a pattern that's been going on at Grace Community Church interesting that these people are not responding to any of these these stories these women's lives being messed over men abusing women getting cover ministries being being financed while they're in prison serving a life sentence amazing to say the least and yet not a word from Justin Peters not a word from Phil Johnson not a word from any of these men and and Justin Peters claims to be a discernment ministry his whole his whole job is to call out sin error abuse in the church I guess it only applies to word of faith the charismatic community because that's where that's where Justin gets his money from and like I told him bro you need to find another hobby your your your ministry getting played like Kwame's polka dot shirts and patent leather shoes and high heels with the fish tank at the bottom you date it bro so I understand I get it while you're doing what you're doing you're one trick pony you lack you lack versatility you lack diversity when you pull up at conferences people pretty much know what you're going to talk about to be honest with you the word of faith movement is not really the issue it's an issue but it's not the issue like it used to be during the days of Hank Hanna graff you know Walter Martin stuff like that people are they recognize the game now so they know what's up for the most part so what else do you have so now you go out and attack Julie Royce because to attack to attack Julie Royce keeps you at the cool kids table it reserves your spot you play it safe and you play it close to the vest when you want to interview people or people want to interview you you won't come up with me because you know i'm going to hit you with them hard hitting questions i'ma give i'ma give you those one hitter quitters so you know not to pull up over here so you'd rather throw rocks and hide your hand and tuck tail and run behind your keyboard instead of face people that you are falsely accusing like a man that's weak sir that's weak so i'm trying to figure out justin what what is this all about other than the fact it's obvious that you're a fanboy that that's obvious the jury's been back the memo has been sent out we got the email you're a fanboy you're a fanboy and it's clear and again all i got to do is drop receipts that's it sam is a great great guy we just had a wonderful few days together good good brother in the lord good faithful exposer scripture and um but sam is a graduate of the master seminary and sam was a student at the master seminary from 2002 2002 to 2012 he earned three degrees there master divinity master of theology and then a doctorate of ministry so uh he was there for quite a while and sam was just telling me a little bit about being a a seminary student the first thing that sam told me about being a student at tms again remember he started in 2002 20 years ago he said the first thing that he was taught by john mccarthur and the other professors there was not theology was not exegesis was not hermeneutics was not church history or any of those things he was taught those things to be sure the first thing he was taught was to love his wife to love his wife he said that is the first thing that i was taught by john mccarthur and the other professors there and me and the other students that were there with him men love your wives that was the first thing they were taught and when i heard that i thought that's pretty cool that's that's good stuff that speaks to his character integrity and um you know as as a minister as a preacher uh our first ministries if you're watching this and you're a preacher your first ministry is not to the church it's to your wife my as a preacher my first ministry is not to the people to whom i preach and teach my first ministry is to kathy and uh i thought that was really cool that they were taught that there at tms anybody want to comment about what he said regarding a pastor's preacher's first ministry anybody anybody anybody know what i'm about to say anybody know where i'm going with this one anybody um because i didn't say it jp said it he said it thank you sweetheart thank you dear and i must yeah i'm being biased right now my my wife who had to get one of this here you go y'all cover your ears here we go so what about miss patricia you know john macArthur's wife the one that has dementia the one who lives in colorado with one of their daughters who's caring for her mother his wife what what about that first ministry justin just just asking or does that apply or is macArthur exempt from that i can't answer that question for you uh sister joe that that's a question that's a question i've asked that's a question all of us are asking right now i've asked that question several times and have gotten zero response now based on the testimony of jp justin peter's he said he said macArthur said your first ministry is to your wife and i will say a to the man because before the church was ever established the first institution was marriage and we know that the qualifications and criteria for a pastor is he must rule his own household well so here's my question ladies and gentlemen based on what we see and what we are observing is john macArthur ruling his household well in in the context of taking care of his wife or how can you take care of his wife he's 80 something years old i mean he should have somebody to take care of him well yeah yeah i don't have a problem with him having someone to take care of his wife along with him and stepping down because his wife is sick and it's not because he needs the money stop it if my wife is my first priority and my wife is sick since i know that i didn't die for the church since i know i didn't die for the church i'm gonna say that again since i know i didn't die for the church then church is in good hands with god and with those he has called to be his under shepherds see see we want to talk about ecclesiology in church order when it fits in suits our agenda well what about this what about what you just heard if marriages a husband's a pastor's first priority then john macArthur has his priorities all mixed up because his wife is in colorado last time i said colorado and california are not next door i'm just saying i'm just i'm just saying geographically it ain't it ain't down the street it's not up the road ladies and gentlemen it's a ways away other states away so why hasn't he stepped down i know he would have required other men to step down i know that for a fact because i've talked to some of the men there see some of y'all need to play in traffic and don't play with me when it comes to these facts don't play with me because i'm i'm helping the body of christ to learn how to discern regardless of who the preacher is so why hasn't MacArthur stepped down we know why he hasn't stepped down we know why he hasn't pulled back we know why it affects the money it affects the coffers that's why y'all y'all understand when the lord withdraws his breath from macArthur grace community church won't be the same the shepherd's conference that everybody's been going to it won't be the same if any more let's just keep it a stack here i'm not hating i'm just saying and you can hate me but you can't hate the facts the facts are this grace community church master seminary master university shepherd's conference grace to you all of that is macArthur all of it and when he's gone trust and believe i ain't got to be a prophet i ain't got no prophetic dna in my body but i'm telling you watch look at how they've been trying to cover and scramble to protect the truth of what people already knew happened to him and all i'm saying is look at how they're responding now you tell me is this of god or is this of satan is this of god or is this of man you tell me how is this man loving his wife how is it loving to be concerned about the church but not concerned about your wife you can't say that i'm looking i'm looking i'm looking there's no way in the world that you're going to have me preach to y'all while my wife doesn't know what day of the week it is and i got my kids taking care of her and i'm in another state no you can't make that make sense ladies and gentlemen you can try but you're gonna look stupid doing so if you're going to preach to everybody else marriage is your first ministry and you don't apply it there's a word for that hypocrisy hypocrisy and again macArthur ain't hurting for no bread so what's the reason what is the reason do you think god's people need you that much well probably probably so can look at all the the worship that he gets just saying i know a lot of people have said of me oh justin idolizes john macarthur he you know he worships john macarthur and all that kind of stuff and that's just that's nonsense i don't idolize any man i don't worship any man john macarthur would be the first person to tell you not to do that but there is a place for being grateful for being appreciative to a man who has proven himself to be faithful for so so many years untouched by the kind of moral scandals that bring so many other men in the pulpit down untouched by anything like that he's proven himself to be faithful he is with stood oftentimes withering criticism lies falsehoods that others have told about him and he just stands strong and i have heard phil johnson say of john macarthur i haven't heard john macarthur say this personally but but phil johnson has heard him say it in regard to his critics and john macarthur says i wouldn't defend myself to satan and we all know who the accuser of the brethren is and so john macarthur doesn't answer them because well for one thing he knows that no matter what he says uh they wouldn't be satisfied they would just keep on keep on so there's no satisfying them he knows that he has gotten one person to whom he must give an account one day or actually to be theologically precise three persons one god and three persons to whom he will one day give an account and whom he must please he has an audience of one y'all hear that you hear the the double standard so when it's okay when macarthur calls out the catholic church when he calls out the charismatic community when he calls out uh word of faith when he calls out politicians when he calls out everybody else but when it's when it's his turn when it's when he's on the slab then he only has one person to to answer to that's that's the hypocrisy y'all he he's not responsible to answer to anybody because only only only god can judge him so i didn't i didn't i didn't know i didn't know j mac listened to pop i didn't know that i'm i'm learning a lot of new stuff this week this week has been a very interesting and revealing week for me i'm learning that they that they you know had diddy remix all glory to christ which was a remake of all langzine i'm being facetious about the diddy thing you follow me and you know just i'm just learning more and more stuff i mean so so so so so we we we hearing remixes at at at the shepherd's conference while at the same time macarthur's in a q and a talking about the asherberry revival and how many how many times they sing things and repetitions over and over and over and over and over again but you're remixing a secular song for new years and you're singing our glory to christ from a from a a secular song but you're dissing the asherberry revival the asherberry church if that's the name of it again the hypocrisy it knows no bounds knows no bounds but nobody can can can challenge and check john macarthur because he only answers to god but but everybody answers to john macarthur who's not a part of so he can he can get at at rick warren i mean listen i don't agree with these people in their theology but what i'm tripping off about is you drag rick warren you you drag the charismatic you drag word of faith you drag i mean you drag all of these people in your sermons in your conferences in sessions sunday school q and a's it's all on his catalog but when it's your turn your fanboy right here says macarthur doesn't have to answer to anybody he only answers to god does that not sound like a cult to you does that not sound cultish to you guys i'm just asking maybe maybe it's me maybe it's me i'm just saying for these people to make these idolatrous statements to say that um macarthur has been used more than any other person in the apostolic era this this is what this is what we're hearing in our own ears from people who claim to be theological beasts with the scriptures but i'm the problem because i'm listening to it but i can't respond to it because if i respond to it then i'm a hater if i'm respond to it if i respond to it then then i'm a person who's jealous and and and all of that man missed me with that foolishness bro i'm not jealous of any man because whatever god wants me to have i'm going to have it with or without the ones that claim that i am jealous see see that's the god that i serve yes he works through means but i'm not dependent on these people to make me anything because i see what they're about i just want you all to hear the idolatry that these people have been putting out and have been pushing as though it's just appreciation no it ain't appreciation they've moved past appreciation to veneration they've moved past appreciation to adulation this is where they are they move past respect to reverence this is where the reform community is right now and they're going to stay there because they're comfortable being there because who's gonna check them boo who's gonna check them surely not you not me because we're nobody's according to them and it's funny that these are the same people that claim to love spurgeon that claim to always want to quote spurgeon when it suits them regarding charismatic regarding the downgrade controversy regarding worldliness regarding the five points of calvinism oh they'll pull they'll pull they'll pull mr spurgeon they'll pull them out like the big joker and slam it oh but when it comes to responding to false accusations or accusations in general oh they're crickets as though mr spurgeon didn't have anything to say about that but check this out yes he did and lectures to my students lectures to my students volume three spurgeon responds to the question regarding people making false accusations or just accusations in general you've heard me read this before but but permit me to read it again as we get ready to to shut this one down in the case of false reports against yourself for the most part use the deaf ear unfortunately liars are not yet extinct and like richard baxter and john bunion you may be accused of crimes with your with your soul of whores be not staggered thereby for this trial has befalling the very best of men and even your lord did not escape the inventum tongue of falsehood in almost all cases it is the wisest course to let such things die a natural death a great heat if unnoticed is like a big fish out of water it dashes and plunges and beaks itself to death in a short time to answer it is simply to to supply with this element and help it to a longer life falsehoods usually carry their own refutation somewhere about them and sting themselves to death some lies especially have a peculiar smell which betrays their rottenness to every honest nose if you are disturbed by them the object of their invention is partly answered but your silent endurance disappoints malice and gives you a partial victory which god in his care of you will soon turn into complete deliverance your blameless life will be your best defense and those who have seen it will not allow you to be condemned so readily as your slanderers expect only abstain from fighting your own battles in nine cases out of ten your accusers will gain nothing by their malevolence but should grin for themselves and contempt to others to prosecute this slanderer is very seldom wise i remember a beloved so beloved servant of christ who in his youth was very sensitive and being falsely accused proceeded against the person that law an apology was offered it withdrew every i owed of the charge and was most ample but the good man insisted upon his being printed in the newspapers and the result convicted convinced him of his own on wisdom multitudes who would otherwise have never heard of the libel asked what it meant and made comments there on generally concluding with the sage remark that he must have done something imprudent to provoke such an accusation ty was heard to say that so long as he lived he would never resort to such a method again for he felt that the public apology had done him more harm than the slander itself standing as we do in a position which makes us choice targets for the devil and his allies our best course is to defend our innocence by our silence and leave our reputation with god yet there are exceptions to this general rule and what are those exceptions mr spurgeon here we are when distinct definite public charges are made against the man he is bound to answer them and answer them in the clearest and most open manner to decline all investigation is in such a case practically to plead guilty and wherever may be whatever may be the mode of putting it the general public ordinarily regard a refusal to reply as a proof of guilt under mere worry and annoyance it is by far the best to be all together passive but when the matter assumes more serious proportions and our accuser defies us to a defense we are bound to meet his charges with honest statements of fact in every instance counsel should be sought of the lord as how to deal with slanderous tongues and in the issue innocence will be vindicated and falsehood convicted just wanted to read that because i believe this is what we are today if you're if you're going to tell me we should read spurgeon and then i read it and i read it in the context of dealing with accusations and in this application on how wisdom should be sought and what mr. spurgeon said that there are times when serious charges need to be answered with facts so these people don't think that the eileen gray was wrong with the eileen gray situation of scandal was wrong they believe that they did nothing wrong even when han cho their elder before they sent him home and sent him packing did his investigation upon request mind you upon request and because they didn't like the findings john mcgarthur and the other elders because they didn't like the findings and because elder han cho said this was not handled right and he said it is still time to do justice it is time to make justice it is time to make right what they have done wrong but it was 20 years ago wouldn't care if it was 20 millennia ago if you didn't do right but what you've done you need to make it right and what did they do what did they do here's what they did they gave elder han cho and automate him either retract or remove yourself from the board talk about grace huh and this is the same pastor that mr fanboy here justin peters is saying everyone he's talked to says that john mcgarthur is a caring person the gracious person the nice person that's yeah it depends on who these people you've talked to and of course you're going to have your people that are going to try to find issues with you i i'd be one of the first to say that but you're not going to tell me that after all of these cases and scandals have now emerged that this is not god's providence here to to now to resurrect what these people have been burying for years make that make sense ladies and gentlemen make that make sense i want to close with the scripture and we'll be done and we all know the text first Corinthians chapter 12 study verse 12 are there any does god have favors in his body does god say one person is better than the other in his body does does god agree with justin peters does god agree with steve lawson's assessment of john mcgartha let's see what let's see what the holy spirit of god says through the pen of the apostle paul for even as the body is one and yet has many members and all the members of the body though they are many are one body so also is christ for about one spirit we were all baptized into one body whether jews or greeks whether slaves are free and we were all made to drink of one spirit for the body is not one member but many if the foot says because i am not a hand i am not a part of the body is it not for this reason any the less a part of the body and if the ear says because i am not an eye i am not a part of the body is it not for this reason any the less a part of the body if the whole body were an eye where would the hearing be if the whole were hearing Where would the sense of smell be? But now verse 18, God has placed the members, each one of them in the body, just as he desired. If they were all one member, where would the body be? But now there are many members, but one body and the eye cannot say to the hand, I have no need of you. Or again, the head to the feet, I have no need of you. On the contrary, it is much truer that the members of the body would seem to be weaker, are necessary. And those members of the body, which we deem less honorable, less than 5%. On these, we bestow more abundant honor and our less presentable members become much more presentable, whereas our more presentable members have no need of it. But God has so composed the body, given more abundant honor to that, which lacked. So that the whole reason why, so that the whole purpose, why God does what he does in his body, so that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another. And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it. That's why we're concerned about MacArthur's health, contrary to what people may think, more concerned about what grace is for MacArthur. And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it. If one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it. Now you are Christ's body and individually members of it. I think the case has been made. And I'm going to rest it on what the word of God says. There are no big eyes I'm going to use in God's kingdom. And this is why I've always said and I'll say again, sheep are not stars and slaves are not celebrities, not on God's plantation. We all should be plowing and having our eyes fixed upon the mark, not looking at what anybody else is doing, but doing what God has called us to do, furrowing our own lane, focusing on what God has called us to the task to do. There's no room for jealousy. There's no room for competition in God's body. We don't see that happen in the physical and it should not happen in the spiritual realm. 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And so I invited them as you all know, I invited them as I feel the need to do so, invited them to my stream. He agreed. And so we're going to have a conversation today at four o'clock central, 5 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. You don't want to miss it. Yep, that's five o'clock Detroit time, my brother. Five o'clock Eastern, four o'clock central. Joe, you said what's the difference between the shepherds conference before 2014 and today? Phil Johnson stated it's different now. It is different. I mean, I think he's saying it's different regarding its content being better, I guess. I don't know, but it's definitely different. I think it's different for those of us whose eyes had been open to a lot of things. But it would probably be up for interpretation, depending on who you talk to. But I have not been to any of their conferences since I want to say maybe 2009, give or take, I think. I don't recall it being any other times. I just started seeing something. The Lord just started doing my heart on some stuff. And I just stopped going. You just saw more of a who's who instead of who is. So, but anyway. Um, he's he's just a YouTuber. I mean, not necessarily YouTube. He's a he's a rando, but he made some accusations saying that I'm attacking John McArthur and saying I'm a fan boy of Julie Roy's and I'm a coward. And that's OK. Well, let's let's let's see what you got. Let me let me let me check your chest and see what it's like. Bring that same image when we came up and he said he will. So I've already sent him the link. And we'll see if he shows up. I hope he does think it'd be a good conversation. But he is the support of John McArthur. He believes that I'm attacking and trying to tear down McArthur as they all do. And so I want him to bring his receipts and go from there. So, yeah, he called me a coward. I'm going to produce all the receipts. I get them already queued up ready to go. Y'all just be here at four o'clock. Just be here at four o'clock. P.O.C., you said that was 20 and 20 years ago. What is that? Do you do anything? Did you want to come up to? You want to come up and defend sin that has been unrepentant of 20 years ago, even after the fact? Even after the fact, do you want to come up and defend sin? You're Christian. First, I want to make sure you're a Christian, because we don't have to go on a biblical standard here. Yeah, come up. Do you want to come up? Do you want to do you want to come on my live right now? I'll give you a few moments. If you do this, say yes. All you got to do is say yes. So I got to do. I'll give you a few moments. I'll shoot you the link. Just give me your email address, and I'll shoot you the link and bring you on. Who are you? Give me your name. Who's P.O.C.? Who are you? Who are you, P.O.C.? Give me your name. Put your name out here. Let everybody know who you are. Just tell me who you are. I have no problem coming up. I'll bring the fight to you. It's all good. I just need to know who you are. I don't I don't deal with Rando's, though. I don't I don't I don't come up with Phantoms. I need to know your name. I want to know. I want to know your name. Don't want to play your game. I want to know your name, bro. I'm trying to get out of here. It's always going to have to be one. It's always one. Always one. Yeah, you're nothing to me to be honest with you, but just give me give me your name. Or else we're just going to balance you. I mean, I'm trying to see. See, for those of you who think that all it's going to do is he he does attacks people. He does attacks people. I'm like, bro, just just just just tell me what your name is. Just that's the one know who your name is. And that way we can we can at least get people what they want. Other than that, I'm going to let you go. Oh, what is a Carol? Carol, what Carol? The Bells, what's your name? What's your name? What's your name, bro? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Carol Burnett. I mean, what's your name? Because you wasted my time right now. I mean, you really wasted my time. So anyway, I'm going to let y'all go. I'm going to get ready for this live in about another hour. So try to give me a chance. Carol McBride. OK, Carol McBride. Yeah, welcome. Are you a female? You are you a chick? Are you a chick? So I'm about to I'm about to. Throw virtual hands with a female. OK, I mean, that's what you want. I don't really, you know, fight females, but. Maybe for you, I give make an exception. So I just know are you a male or a female? I need we need to be gender specific here. Need to be need to be gender specific here. What's your channel? Give me give me some intel about yourself, ma'am, sir, ma'am. Give me give me some intel. It's two forty seven central standard time. Could you could be a troll for all I know? I mean, give me give me your intel. What should put your channel up? What's the name of your channel? What do I want to know? I want to know your channel. Give me your channel. What's the name of your channel? You have my information, otherwise you wouldn't be here. So give me some information, give me some intel so I know who I'm dealing with. It's not that hard. You can't be that slow as cold syrup not to understand and comprehend this. It's very basic, very, very basic. I'm trying to send these people on their way so they can come back in about an hour but I'm wasting time with you. So I'm trying to apply Proverbs 26, four and five but you're not seeming to be too bright. Okay, so you sought me and you found me. Okay, got it. So again, so he has nothing. So he's a nobody. Okay, we're done. We're done. All right, you guys have a great day. You have a great day, y'all. See you in about an hour. Come on back in about an hour. Get something to drink, use the restroom, go ahead and take a walk, stretch your legs out, holler back at me in an hour and we'll get the next live started. Appreciate you guys. Love y'all for those who can come in for those who can't love you guys. Have a great weekend. Y'all know the drill, whatever you do do all to the glory of God. God bless. You're still here? It's over. Go home. Go.