 Welcome back. It's still the breakfast and plus TV Africa. We're set to look at top paper headlines this morning. And I'm glad to have Chris, Candy, Wando. Might I like to call it the Tribalized Nigerians because if you go to the Southwest, he's there in his name. If you go to the Southeast, he's in his name. I think he's in a good position. I don't know how he feels. We know that's good on right now. Chat out a bit traitor. UK trade. Chris, good morning to you. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you very much for having me. Good morning. All right. Chris, Candy, Wando. Yes, I remember the last few times we had conversations with you in Abuja before you shifted base to Lagos. And there were bandits and terrorist attacks. And now in Lagos we're seeing election related violence. I don't know why, what we're going to do about all these issues in the country. But we'll take your thoughts on that. I'm sure the papers also give us opportunity. Let's quickly look at the punch newspaper with the following headline. This is on the front page of the punch newspaper. It says APC wins 15 states, PDP six states, NMPP takes Kano. Ryder to that 27 killed nationwide election violence, Thugry, Gandhi J. Tambo, our candidates lose, PDP rejects Ogun, Katzina results, Kwan Kwan Siia supporters defy Kaffir, Jubilate in Kano, INEC suspends Abia, immigration declares a dam or a governorship poll inconclusive. EFCC grills four NCAA chiefs over alleged two billion Naira fraud, Angus, NMPCL, hires ex-patriot to head subsidiary, EU observers blame politicians INEC for vote buying. Saumulu raises civil servant's salary by 20%. Legals husband and rain for wife's death, musician, friend, KLBDC operators, God arrested. Okay, let's go over to the next paper. The nation newspaper APC wins 15 states, PDP six, NNPP takes Kano. Labor party leads in Abia, Fubara, Ochu, Obore Wari, our governor select. This is talking about some states, Delta state, Cross River state and River state. Okay, more from the nation. Polls inconclusive in Adamawa, Kaby, Abia, Enugu, foreign observers Hale, INEC, this is contrary to what we saw on the front page of the punch where they said foreign observers blame INEC for vote buying. So which one will we take? More from the nation, expect new mood for Ramadan tomorrow, says Sultan. Jam sets new guideline for the direct entry registration, cash crisis, banking infrastructure for expansion, legals okays, 20% salary raise for workers, payment backdated, protesters INEC. Now on the front page of the Guardian, we have the following stories or headlines. Protests as INEC, suspense election results in Adamawa, Abia, Enugu, thugs invade Kano APC sectariat and of course dissecting the Supreme Court in Laon versus Machina. Contributors receive 208 billion error as unemployment benefits in six months are some of the states on the front page of the Guardian. Let's go to the business day. Divisive elections give investment starved, investment starved Nigeria new headache. Divisive elections give investment starved Nigeria new headache. Chris, let's start with business day. Thank you for telling us again. The issue is not just about the economic problems but you see that now that we have a president elect who didn't have a majority of the popular vote. This should be for the first time in a long time the significant gap between the winner and the loser or the top two parties let's say compared to the rest isn't that wide. We have three parties and the votes have been shared around. So the losers have more votes than the president way higher votes than the president. So it means that he's inheriting a divided country who has the most supporters of a position parties than his own supporters. How do you think this will give Nigeria a new headache in terms of what are the thoughts on this anyway ahead of the administration's four years? That is why people believe that the president elect ought to have a superman to condemn what is happening in the state because he has been a letter to the president of Nigeria not president of APC. So putting into context what you just said there's need for healing, there's need for participation among all ethnic groups. Part of the problem we had in 2019 was when President Muhammad Bahdi also came was in London I said 97% and the 5% when he was talking of the love-sided message his appointments and that in itself generated a lot of power. So it is a way now for that to look at the results as it were the president led had barely about 80 million votes the next to him were about six million and even the third person looked about almost six million. So combined if you combine the two other candidates there we are talking about 30 million that put together is for more than one. So I respect a more reconcile between action from the president in that and try to close the gap instead of us moving for the parts. This should be time for consideration so that everybody will have a sense of the country in this country. Part of the problem we are having is that people don't feel wanted and that is why you are seeing the agitations here and there. I called here the ones of Assad is led by Muho and other parts. So he has his board cut out and we hope that he will rise up to the occasion and do the next one by the 90 minutes. But what is happening because of his mother? At this point of her life today we will be talking about this. Okay. May God help us. Let's look at the stories. I will take the headline from the front page of the punch in newspaper. EU observers blame politicians, INEC for vote buying in some parts of the country. I will say Lagos state. We saw food being shared, money was being shared and of course some people some places when the money ran out they have to give people beer. And it is widespread not just in Lagos state. In other parts of the country they even printed ATM cards, their own cards that people could use to cash money out. So while the punch says EU observers blame politicians, INEC for vote buying the nation is saying that foreign observers hail INEC. Which one should we take Chris? Well you have to take the point because if you know the leadership and what is why I upset the time at this time question probably until after the election. I don't have any media organization to take this weapon like the nation seriously. I personally wouldn't take this issue because other papers mean that the ownership of the paper is not so, the editorials is not balanced. That I watched the EU representatives when they had press conferences and what punch was the part they stated that food buying, the inability of INEC given the need to stick into the news. We are not going to go buy it of course. It is a part of a national system. Nigerians, you know Nigerians, they always find that we are circumventing every now and then. Much as the electoral part set up an artist, EFCC was around moving around. I said how many personalities do EFCC have that ability to go around to be able to arrest all those people. But it was widespread and it's not limited to the public. And people are taking advantage of the poverty level of our people and there. So in these days, you know that at the point, getting 1,000 naira cash was a problem. So if you see somebody give you 5,000 naira, they will jump at it and they are capitalizing on that. But taking a look at the front page of most of the things that are being done, where I say EFCC wins 15,000 to PDP 6,000. So this morning that of PDP has risen to 9, because if you add the results coming from River State, PDP won River State. PDP also won in Tarabas State. And the shocking one is that Matawale has lost his election in Zampara State. It has been taken over by PDP. It was won by PDP candidates. So that brings the total to 9 PDP. Don't forget we are looking about 28 states where a governorship election was held on Saturday. So we are all losing control. But another snatch to that is what is happening in Abia and the U.S. State, where the INEC had to suspend the relation of results because of clashes and skirmishes that is going on in Abia and in U.S. State to local governments that in this level have put a stop to the relation. And I hope that would result as we proceed so that the result would be clear because the more you postpone that, the attention rises within the states. And if it's not well managed, it can split into other kind of things, violence. So a special year as I will come in, it's like setting a store. I hope that and I could get it as soon as possible. And now the results in the state. Adamawa and I think it will be Kebih. Sorry, Kebih. Adamawa and Kebih is incompetent. This is not the first time we are used to incompetence. I think it's used to this. Let's see what comes after that. All right. I think one of the things to take away from this election is that when it comes to the state elections, their politics of state elections is local, not national. What I mean is even if you have a party within the presidential election, that influence may not translate into local success. If you have a party being incumbent at the federal level, it still may not translate into local success. And so maybe it's not all stick for INEC. When you see the likes of, like you say Matawale, losing elections in their state, then you might begin to say, well, there's some positives in this election, wouldn't you say? Yes, I agree with you. And I was just making a post on social media yesterday that how come that the liberal party that I'm on about two states during the presidential have not been able to win any any governorship election. So at least the one that's clear. And then somewhere I was as it was, it was a thing that the obedience didn't come out for the liberal party. It was obedience, we are saying. Oh, no, it's because it was rigged. I saw what happened because, yes, I saw what happened. But there are other states that we are within health studies and I expected that people take a good example, a state like the two states where the presidential candidate for the liberal party won hands down. But when it came to the governorship, it could bend APC, governor APC government, a black to state law, which was in an opposition party. So it can be might not be just right that we cannot say it was because of skirmishes and here and there. So that's probably it could also be that some of the people that voted for the party or it will be feel aggrieved by the results and not the format. But another person said, no, there's a difference between the party and obedience. So obedience are not members of the party and they voted for their candidates in the tension. So you cannot hold them responsible. Whatever I want to do about the last session, but that's I agree with you. Politics is local. I expected that the governors are going to promise it's everything they have to make sure they retain their state and also make sure that they are not a candidate if they are not a ticket and that is what they are doing. Let's come back to what's going on the tribal rhetoric and the propagation of hate speech. The political parties, especially presidential candidates, they pirated themselves in Abuja to sign a peace accord and you have their officials and their proxies coming out to propagate hate speech. And they've said nothing about it. Like you said, the silence could indicate complicity. They need to speak. But there's a front page commentary in business day. The title of this front page commentary is Before the Dog Whistle. Ethnic profiling turned into civil war. Before the dog whistle and ethnic profiling turned into civil war. And it's a lot, I won't go into the details, but what do you think about such a commentary and just give thoughts on the situation in that regard? You know Nigerians, we are very, when it comes to history, we have a very short name and that is the problem with our leaders and Nigerians. Most people have forgotten how in 1966 civil war started and the outcome of that. It is also hard to do with ethnic profiling and that was how the civil war started. And when people make stacks in parliamentary statements, they have to put the lives of other people in the streets and that is you also have to go and see what happened in the war. We are close to what we have been able to wipe out in months. That is also because of the statements. And that is why I've been expecting a good example to condemn the statement by people close to him. A good example is Nonoga, who is the director general of his publicity committee, head of the publicity committee and media committee of presidential election, where he came at a seasoned journalist, the founder of the news, PM News, Temple, that so many of us, the journalism profession, we are to come to life. And then because he has become a politician, former director general, came out to say that any woman who is not already in the state and that this is going to be the last thing that people should try to get into. He knows so many inflammatory statements and I said it and I don't know about that. Why you continue to point this kind of a, you continue to rally people in the process. Don't forget that also other ethnic groups, your ethnic group and also in other parts of the country, including the statists. So we're anti-co-feeding most interesting parties. Most of these people that are shouting, we are Lakers. And not from Lakers. Go and look from where by your Nonoga. Definitely it's not from Lakers state. It could be from one of the states in the statuette. Everybody comes to Lakers and say, oh, we are Lakers. Lakers is a cosmopolitan city. And Nigeria, of all shades of life, emuls, Europas, ours have been living harmoniously. The guy at our gate, he's announced that they are staying within Pupua five, six years. I don't have any problem. We don't have problem with them. So many of us also eat. The problem is that the people in Nigeria don't have any problem with themselves. It's always the politicians that are always using that to be able to divide us, to be able to play into their narrow narratives. And then use ethnicity, they use religion. Those are the two things they use. So and then some people will just build into that and continue to as a bet. This is not the time for that. And Lakers is a cosmopolitan city. There's no way anybody can say, oh, nobody comes to Lakers. Of course, Europe has its own Lakers. You can't come to my village, I say Europe, I say Europe belongs to Lakers. Lakers belongs to Europas. But the fact is that there have been these harmonious relationships because Lakers was the capital city of Nigeria, just like Apuja. And you have a lot of, so the development of Lakers was not done by one particular technique group. But every Niger that I find their colleagues in home, and that is what I don't think this kind of narrative issue. And that is why I call on Governor of Lakers state who I expect to also come out to be able to address this issue. And other leaders of the state, I show everybody that as far as we are in Lakers, Lakers is home for you, rather than we continue this narrative that will lead us to look where. If we continue on this path, then we're dividing ourselves even more. There's a song that, as in going around, I think it's by I don't know if it's Olu Gungo or some guy, it's filled with a lot of hate. A guy I'm told he is the one who, he sang a song during the time of Abacha. And that song got him either imprisoned or something, but he had to run away for a while. And it's all about the internet. I came across it yesterday, where it's saying that all these are more able things, they shouldn't be appointed, they give an appointment again, and all this kind of stuff. And you have a lot of these things going around. And it's really sad to see because you know what happened during Wanda. But we'll leave it at that before we go. Let's take your thoughts on a story on the front page of the nation newspaper. A cash crisis banking infrastructure for expansion. And since the banks, they've been overwhelmed with the reliance above Nigerians on the internet infrastructure. It's not really been able to stand the test of time. And the paper is saying they want to expand. Please give us your thoughts on this. Yes, I would leave the central part for that, because the rush, the madness and rush, we don't want to compel every Nigerian to go into electronic banking. It doesn't work that way. It's a gradual thing. All the economies of the world that have gone electronically, you're still having them use cash, as much as not making it not in volume output. But they still have elements of cash. So, but a situation where the central bank wants everybody to go cashless, electronic, we start expanding the necessary infrastructure that is unplanned within the bank. That is why you're having so many glitches. That is why you make transfer. It takes two days for it to land. That is why he's account. That's why you have a lot of decline. That's why you have to log on into the bank. And we should be very careful, because if you look at what is going on across the globe, so many banks are going on using the Silicon Valley Bank. What is happening is the Silicon Valley Bank that are the United States and United Kingdom are pumping billions and are being taken over into this bank and they are being taken over. Even Swiss Bank, the second largest bank in Switzerland, is almost going under yesterday or before it was quickly brought over by UBS. So, banks are having serious shocks across the globe. So, if we are not careful the way we handle our situations, we might just see another set of banks going down and Nigerians are losing their funds. That is why most of us have said that central bank government and central banks should be very careful in the policies it brings us, so that it does not put the banks in danger and they will put the life of Nigerians at risk. All right. Chris, I want to thank you so much for your time. Most of you have about the same story coverage of the Governorship Election Results Announcements. So, we will leave it at that. But any final word from you, just to summarize some of what you have said today into a nutshell before we say goodbye to you. I said what? I didn't hear you well. Yeah. Before you go, just a final word from you. Yes. I want to take a call on negotiations to see them as themselves as well. As I said, I can feel as you know, my mother is, I mean, this is my mother, she is my mother, so I mean, we put a size of the device. So, I will call on Nigerians and negotiations to see them as well. They should not allow politicians to divide them and make sure that they continue to live in harmony amongst themselves, not allow anybody to use them as ministers, because at the end of it all, we are going to be users, not the politicians, but their families are already in the United Kingdom and the United States. They move them away. Most of their families are in Canada. So, if there's any problem, it's not going to affect them. It is our own children that are here with the 492 are not about to stand for children outside and will survive it all. So, I want to appeal to everybody, who didn't Nigeria and also the Brazilian people, to give this a chance. All right. Chris, Keende, Wando, thank you very much for your time. And of course, we look forward to having you again soon. And I hope that by the next time we come here, freed nerves would have been calmed and, you know, people would have settled down to look at how to best move forward. Thank you very much for your time. Chris Keende Wando is a chartered, a UK trained chartered arbitrator, and he's been a guest of the press. We'll take a break. And when we come back, we continue our review of the governorship elections right here on the breakfast. Please stay with us.