 This is Tim Appichel with Think Tech Hawaii and today we're here with Michael and Michael our subject today is Road rage and my question to you is have you seen or experienced road rage here on our our roadways or highway? unfortunately, yes and I live out on the west side of the island and I drive back and forth daily and It's it's it can be it can be challenging particularly when you have drivers who are aggressive and other drivers who aren't polite and letting people in When you see this on the roadway, are you are you subject to the commute the hour and a half to our commute to get into town? Well, you know the fortunately with with the career that I have I can come in slightly on the tail end of things and leave on the tail end of things so It's a little more civil but on the weekends. I have a have a seeing group That I I I sing with and having to get from you know event to event right that's when I see it mostly What sort of things are you seeing on the roadway? It seems like the incidence for road rage is increasing. In fact, I don't know if you know this or not But there is a informal survey nationwide survey on one of the social media Sites and Hawaii is the number one state would that surprise you? No, it would not when I when I'm when I'm coming home like late at night sometimes Either from work or from you know from singing some of the guys that are racing down the highway and people who are a little inebriated that Are on the highways and Those things all add to it. What kind of things are you seeing? You know you see them directed at other people or have you ever been involved with some of these events? Well, of course, you know if you drive along enough you you certainly are and what I try to do is I try to just say hey You know God bless you, you know and and just let them in and let's let them go ahead I'd my thing is I just don't want them to take me with them when when they when they have a bad accident or You know, I'm not going to get into a beef with somebody Driving if there if you were the recipient of road rage Would you know what to do because there's there's kind of a hierarchy of things to do and not do when you are the recipient of someone's rage Would you happen to know what those would be? I don't but normally what I do is I just said, you know I just tell them hey go right ahead, you know, and and I just you know Just try to de-escalate the situation not adding to it And if they they want to drive close or stuff like that, you know What I normally do is I just either take a different route or you know, if it's really bad There was one there was one time when I was coming from Kaniyoi and I was going over the H3 in this This guy was just really tailgating me for for some reason What I what I did was I held up my phone and and just to show him that I was you know calling calling the Calling the authorities and then he sped off and left but if it was really bad I just I would just call 9-1-1 and and tell tell them where I am and what's going on and Or the you know drive to the nearest police station If you had any advice for someone who was you know, either tailgating or you know trying to cut in for traffic What advice would you give them for these people that do this? I mean, I'm sure it's not all because someone's inebriated It's you know, either they're rushed for time or they're just angry or they're just an emotionally upset So you ever have any advice for for someone? Well, what I would say is just just let them in let them go ahead It's not worth it and just just you know just to tell them Hey, God bless you and just let them in anytime I see somebody coming up behind me I try to get out of the way let them go, you know The only thing that really gets me is so when somebody cuts me off and puts me in danger, you know That's the only thing that really gets me Yeah, but what I try to do is just let them let them go on and do their thing. It's not it really It's really it really isn't worth it. That's good. Good philosophy Well, one of the experts here in why is a professor at Manoa you of age Manoa Says that not only do you think about the person that's driving but also their family and their friends Yes, and if if drivers and of both parties remember that That can go a long way. That's right. Now. That's what I think about too And I just said it's not worth it I'm not gonna hurt myself or hurt somebody else out here on the highway and So that's what I try to do. Well, that's good. Thank you Michael And I want to thank you for taking the time to speak with us and I'm Tim Appichel. This is think tech away Aloha