 It's time for the papers. We call it off the press on the breakfast this morning as Zika. Yeah I took as a standby. He joins the conversation from the FCT. It's good to have you join us this morning Thanks for having me always the pleasure to be on your station. Thanks for having me. All right a pleasure as well We set up for the nation newspaper this morning. Why APC change dates for governorship all the primaries It's the bold caption on the nation Election of presidential candidates may 29 and 30 at party fears are in ex-sanctions Of course, I like it's very very bent on doing the right thing Lockdown in Southeast state over Nnamdi Kanu Lockdown in Southeast state over Nnamdi Kanu Especially when you know bail application has been rejected and you also have George denies IPOP leader bail That's a rider underneath Away from that Malami in Gigi Silver talon no to no fate soon It's also another caption this morning on the nation More and dust meant for to noble in Quara and Bainway Again Lagos restricts Ocada operation and six councils ongoing legal battle likely to delay the Alaphane's selection Okay 47 billion now probe EFCC detain eggs and DDC MD Semi-carrier and a minister suspend accountant general on the probe for 80 billion our fraud and We also take this one quickly before we move away from the nation newspaper Cod declares a delicate as PDP candidate Five die in a Booja market fire PDP once again rigging Talking about the a kitty 2022 elections rejects PDP STP fire me tells women and In the air door campaigns against Valens The headlines you find this morning on the nation newspaper We're moving on to the leadership newspaper the lead story for this morning a PC PDP in game of hide and seek over primaries with some Riders 24 hours after opposition parties adjustment of activities Government party reschedules timetable. We are not bothered by a PC's antics or antics says PDP Rays between a mechi and me says by the rule a tick who vows to crush bandits Conquers so she carol from our lines against a PC PDP in channel All right PMB to decide return and minister's fate That's the federal government saying alleged 80 billion our fraud federal government suspends accountant general federal government approves 169 billion private sector investments in road a Booja timber market burnt over woman's death All right, let's see if there are other stories. We can take on Lettership police kill six bandits arrest kidnappers kill us off drill field Bethel Students those are all of the stories on the front page of the leadership newspaper Away from the leadership newspaper. We took a quick look at the Daily independent on the daily independent newspaper returning ministers awaits Buhari's re-assuption Vedic Malumi Talan attend federal executive meeting. It's a rider in Giga silver's fate hangs in the balance and Five feet killed it shops burnt as Trader or Cudder riders clash in a Booja market federal government suspends a Tony general over alleged 80 billion hours camp postpones FAAC meeting and APC adjustment dates are presidential and Guba National Assembly primaries or APC adjust dates of presidential Guba and National Assembly primaries Now fingers across to see what becomes of INEC in this situation, especially that's a ruling party denies zoning Presidential vice presidential ticket to the north east and the south is Very interesting and the League of State governor song will you or this total ban on Okada and six local government? nine LCD a's Gunman kill a boy LGA chairman and three relatives and security guard or Hanayzee slams nef over Suspicion comment on south east You also have the or shun 2022 court of firms are delicate as PDP Guba candidate Cauter Jones trial to May 26 denies Namdi Kano bail. He has the sequences and Detains X and DDC MD. See my care the headlines you found this morning on the daily independent and Finally the punch in this paper APC governorship primaries tough battles in or your supporter reverse as 44,045 delegates elect candidates a Meiji Abbey supremacy battle resort in gunshot chaos factions trade words APC denies zoning presidency Shift not okay, APC denies zoning presidency shift north on national assembly governorship primaries Jet a1 others may push flight above 100,000 Naira. That's according to domestic airlines 80 billion Naira fraud EFCC uncover 17 properties linked to at accountants general 25 presidential aspirant Field submitted some says our APC a number of police one against Violent as court denies Kano bail as upon strike for 147 days on the Buhari Imported vehicles customs to redeploy controversial evaluation policy on Friday Well, let's have a Ziko. Yeah, I took who joins the conversation He's a public affairs analyst all the way from Acquired from state speaking tours. I mean prior to your previous Introduction as a guy. Yeah, I took is good to have you join us this morning Thanks for having me. I hope my audience is clear loud and clear Let's start off with the nation on the nation it talks about the APC and change of date for governorship and all the primaries What do you think of this? What do you make of the situation? Especially that I neck is saying that they cannot go back on changing the timetable Because of the implication it would have on the entire electoral process You see there's this palpable fear between the part between the parties That's why APC in particular is concerned that if They are not careful in handling their timelines They may have a lot of adrift people who if they are not given the party ticket may very likely move to Other parties and as a result, they are playing the cat and mouse game between APC and PDP That's why you see the PDP adjust its timetable and Almost immediately the APC finds time finds reason rather to also adjust their time They will effectively frustrate Aggrived members from crossing from one party to the other because as a stance None of the parties has what you call members They only have interested parties. What that means is that the allegiance is not to any party whatsoever It's to their personal interest. So wherever they think their personal interest will be better served They will move them so you can imagine a man would be in APC in the morning and in the afternoon He's in the PDP and he doesn't mind moving to another party, you know Many time along the line, I will tell you something very interesting that happened, you know in the last general elections There were a lot of adrift people in PDP no, not the last I think was 2015 a lot of adrift people in PDP and APC and all of a sudden They decided they would rather team up with the third force even the five key Governors that left and they moved to ADC and Then while they were at it all of a sudden mr. Artiku came in and we are told he made very great offers We'll give you back your ticket to give you support and everything and boom they all moved back to PDP That's when they now moved to to from APC. They came into a DC but they moved out back to PDP and then so the movement is so fluid that No party is sure. These are my members as a result You find them all the time being very apprehensive and trying to outdo each other. So if PDP adjusts his timelines again, you'd be surprised that APC will find reason to do that again I think the person that is in on the driving seats now is more like your other parties a APC is having a lot of Challenges and that's why they can find it very difficult to tell you the direction They are going to take and whether there's going to be a consensus and if you read the current electoral act There are people in I'm told in or rather I've come to believe there are people in a PC that are just waiting to play the spoiler they've left the party in their heart But they are waiting for you to do that consensus and they're going to tell you know We're not going to agree and there's going to be a lot of these I want to encourage the so-called smaller parties to take themselves serious because these guys that Impunity thinking they can do and undo anything is going to lead to a lot of this Qualification because they are going to take a lot of actions that will not stand in the court of law as a result We need to pray for the judiciary to be able to look less on money and focus more on Justice to the people. I think that the smaller parties so to speak ADC and all the others They should get themselves ready because a lot of the big parties in many of the states are going to be disqualified And what happened in in in in emo state not too long ago might just play out a game We had the first person was disqualified the second person couldn't take it the third person couldn't take it And he went to the fourth person the current governor of emo state was number four on the ballot today He's the governor So I just want to tell the so-called smaller parties to take themselves serious because the impunity You know, there's a saying in our language What that means that they hand you used to catch fly catch fly catch fly you now see I'm not a fly this time What they be and you mistake a B for a fly and take the hand that he used to catch fly to catch a B You don't I don't have to be told what the consequence will be I think that a PC and B B P They are mistaking a B for a fly and the current INEC. I believe Will will leave to its billing of An institution will be we should be proud of All right, let's stay with the nation newspaper There's some very interesting stories, but let's talk about Malamie in giga silver talent soon to know fate I I I Find it very disturbing and very unfortunate Is he the president of the federal Republic of Nigeria? There are many regrets that he will have when he leaves office very many regrets One of the regrets was him not being able to draw a line between the office of the president and the person of Oh God God help me Buhari the reason is that Obam Buhari Is at liberty to do whatever he wants whenever he wants However, he wants is at liberty to do that But the president of the federal Republic of Nigeria does not enjoy such liberties He does things that he must do even if he doesn't like to do it. For instance, if I don't like to wake up before 9 8 o'clock 7 o'clock. I like to wake up about 11 o'clock The office of the president Requires you to wake up early enough and be up to work during working hours Because the Constitution has clearly stated working hours in the federal Republic of Nigeria And if you are a president that cares about rule of law While there will be sometimes Exceptions you want to work within that tightrope for that period you have accepted that assignment and responsibility to that extent They are setting body language that is not okay. For instance if a man has resigned his appointment Gone to the extent of buying an expression of form to contest an office and You have come to say that all those that want to contest for any election should leave my office It's not about whether the law says or the law does not say it did not say according to section It just said if you want to contest election, I would like you to leave my office and These people that contested election. He had no business and when he was having a valedictory service There for them they were there So it should be given how the central bank governor is back When he's they said he's a card carrying member of the party the world chairman came and said so How that person who is now partisan? Should walk back to the central bank. I can't understand How the other ministers whom we know Had tendered their resignation Should walk back to their offices. I don't understand How they are turning general is he going to seek for legal advice from who the same attorney general that is involved What what does he hope to hear? I just think that mr. President Those who love him his people Should should should talk to him Because when he leaves office, he will really know The people that work with him And I think that he should have a discussion at this point with former president Jonathan How on his way back on the same day The same day that he left office on his way back at the airport He was denied access into the presidential waiting The same day he leaves office I mean he would just be for goodness sake taking for granted even that last you know and and The the villa became a ghost town You need to read some things and listen to some things from people like mr. Ruben Abat Mr. President should should should not be oblivious of of of this They say that the memory of man is treacherous But if you cannot remember your own at least learn from current experiences And let him sit up and do the right thing so that we can hail him I've already hailed him for signing the electoral act and I've said that whatever crime he commits or seen He commits between now and end of his tenure. I have forgiven in advance One day Nigerians will know why I've made such a strong statement that electoral act We can monkey we eat it But one day we wake up and see what is inside and it was the hand of dignity That moved mr. President to sign it which gives me the confidence that god is still in charge of their face of this country Let's also look at you know the arrest by efcc of x n d dc md and semi carer over alleged 47 billionaire and Some people are saying that it's just a stunt to prove that the fight of gains corruption You know, it's very effective, but really looking at this We also know that the cut of competence jurisdiction is expected to prove all of this. What do you make of it? You see the case of Mr. Sima e Kerry is a case that If you are from a quay bomb state, you look at it from a completely different perspective and paradigm When did he leave office? And why is this just coming off suddenly they just need investigations, right? anyway the thinking around a quay bomb is that after the minister of Niger Delta affairs had resigned That one of the possible very very possible candidates for a replacement Would be mr. Sima e Kerry who is a very very very highly placed party member And that there are some organizations on bodies some institutions on persons That are really really uncomfortable with mr. Sima e Kerry coming back as the as the md of the Niger of the of as the minister of the Niger Delta and going back to supervise The n ddc where a forensic audit was carried out and we have not seen anybody implicated I think the first body that should have implicated mr. Sima e Kerry should have been the forensic audit And we didn't see anything While i'm not holding brief for him I'm wondering why all of a sudden it's coming out now But my position is you do the crime you do the time But that doing the crime has to be by a a competent cut of a man a cut of competent jurisdiction All along since he left office we've not heard anything But as soon as the minister of the Niger delta resigned the case came up 46 billion And they should be careful how they even handle that matter because That oily the poor They may have to ask what he did with the 46 billion If it is true You know this country we played the ostrich too much How do you fund elections? Mr. President doesn't know how elections are funded. He doesn't know honestly for real Malami does not know how elections are funded I think one day the story of this to a country will be told One day people will arise who will put the interests of this country first One day people arise who will not care whose ox is god That's what i'm saying come 2023 Please let's talk all this apc pdp apc pdp apc pdp Let Nigerians let Nigerians wake up to know that they have a choice. They have an alternative They have competent people whose hands have not been soiled By the corruption that has perverted and brought us to our knees to become the poverty capital of the world That day should come now today We cannot allow people in the villages Who do not have a clear understanding of what is going on to just be collecting 10 naira 150000 to elect the next president while we sit down on television and do analysis While we sit down on on on on facebook and on social media and do critics and yet we do not go and get registered We don't get our PVC. We do not inform our people We're not enlightening ourselves and make sure that we take informed decision as a result What is going on politics forget about this issue of he took money didn't take money They all know if he took money it was for them There's nothing that mr. Sima Ekeria as an individual will do for with for something billion It's not even possible for him to take it except there's an understanding from the top To get a billion like like like you talk of the the the accountant general to get money out of system Is not as easy a billion is not a million. It's not a thousand. It's a lot of money You can't zoom such money without an understanding of the system And what was the money we used for equal to service the system? So they should please pay me all this Being holy for nothing. They are not they are not they are all complicit. They are all kind, you know My time is up Let's also look at other headlines that we do have here and it also talks about On the leadership. It talks about president mohammed abu harry deciding to To decide returning ministers fate You know when the president gave that order asking that those who have intention to Become or i mean vie for any political office should Resign their position especially that they are pointed just re-acquiring what the You know the law sees Now It's on the other side because the the president Also still have to decide the fate of this ministers I find it. I find it very um hilarious, but is it cool. Can you hear us? Yeah, I talk So I feel like we have A delay or more like Delaying communication as soon as we're able to establish proper contact with a ziko. Yeah, I talk we will return with that question But justin I like I said I find it very I find it very interesting. It's it's funny because You know the president would always appoints You know those he would appoint members of his cabinet the ministers and what a view and that's within his capacity to do all of that and then he felt like They don't understand the dynamics of the entire situation And then the president went further on to say You have to resign if you have any interests So now for those who want to return it's also an issue because the president can decide to say What did you say? Yeah, he actually decides who he wants. I don't know why i'm laughing, but please excuse me But it is true that he has um the right to appoint whoever he chooses although it's subject to approval Uh, you know by the senate, you know So if he's told you to resign if you have political interests, not because that's he's echoing what the law says The law is very specific about that even if he's uh, he didn't not didn't say that the fact is that he is He can decide to ask you to go whenever he wants to No, so it's a bit dicey. It's a bit dicey, right? Uh, you know how it is that you see That's in that instruction has been given despite the fact that the law So I just think that the president had to echo it But we have queried the fact that the winded the president to echo this I can't even do what is right without having the president or someone poke you, you know to act in a certain direction Now on the other hand is that because you were appointed as a minister you were appointed by the president is within his You know jurisdiction he has the right to appoint whoever subject to the scrutiny of the uh, the senate Now that you know this minister They want to come back The president also can decide to say, okay, you you I mean, I don't want you But do you think it would be very logical and sensible to have? Uh, how many more days do we have before the fact that if you resign you resign So why are you coming back to come on do what? No boy? Well, it's okay. I mean because it's within the ambience I mean it's within his jurisdiction to act my question would now be do you think the president would Act differently I can't speak for the president If you have resigned even just take your load and go to your house, you know If the president the president will now decide to appoint someone else to fail in the space So would he be logical? Let's even look at the fact that after they've resigned. No Okay, so that's what you're saying is your thing is not logical to bring them back Or for the president to bring them back after asking them to resign But how many more days do we have up until 2020 2023 2022 is over. Yeah, we have uh to the elections. We have um, I mean to the handover we have a Bellier year So do you think it's um, sensible to have the president appoints, you know, not not bringing them back But have to appoint of course it's possible. Yes. And the minister for six months It's all right. So we have a zikon. Yeah, I took back on online. Is it cause good to have you join us this morning? All right, I think we'll see a Stephen having a similar challenger with Ezekiel But that's as much as we would have him. Yes, we can hear him now Ezekiel, I can hear us No No, I I can't hear you. I can only hear you from the tv which I shouldn't because it's delayed under with feedback I can't hear you from my Ezekiel, I must say a very big thank you for all the thoughts that you have shared on all the press for this morning We do appreciate your time All right, we'll take a quick break right now and not before to let you what happened on this day in history still with us