 Yep, Charlamagne, the guy Andrew Schultz. We already upset Chris, bro. Yeah, we did Chris got the most fire sneaker collection for a dad ever. I mean, it's unbelievable. He just comes in with sneaky heat every single day. You got nice dad shoes. And that's not even dad shoes. Chris got it. Chris got it. Does he eat? That's he eat. OK, OK. Welcome to another week of the Brilliant Nities podcast. How are we feeling, guys? Feeling good. How are you? I feel blessed, black, and highly favored, man. That's good. LeBron James just got swept. Woo. Thoughts. Woo. Let's get right to it. Woo. Yo, it's really interesting, because when you watch highlights of Joe Kitch, everything looks lucky. It does, right? You know what I mean? Every highlight I see, I'm like, oh, that's pure luck. It does. Everything looks like that shot, LeBron shot, when he was trying to throw an alley hoop and it went in. And it went in. Yes, yes. So you're like, this guy can't be that good, because he just keeps getting lucky, and I'm just seeing highlights. But then you actually watch the game. And even though he's in slow-mo, and he got the highest dribble, he just finds a way to be so fucking effective and elite. It's unbelievable. Anna shows me how much being in the right market can do for you, because Kitch has been a two-time MVP and nobody's realizing how good he is until right now, because we've been watching his games so much in prime time. Right market, right market, and we're winning a championship. What did the championship say? With Yanis, Yanis was doing that Milwaukee for so long, and we knew it. But when he made that run in one-and-ring, everybody's like, yo, that guy is incredible. The tricky thing about Yolkitch is his game doesn't really lend itself to highlights. You see a big man throw a cool pass. You're like, oh, that's cool, but it doesn't need to be on Sports Center top 10. And then you see the stat sheet, and it's crazy. Stupid. And you're like, whoa, this guy's really controlling the game. I wonder if he's like a, and again, I didn't get to watch enough of this, and I don't even think Chris, you were old enough to watch. But the way that they said Bill Russell could control a game, but he's way more offensively savvy than Russell, but defensively in rebound on what Bill Russell could do to a game the way he could dominate it, is that what Yolkitch is doing? Yeah, I mean, I can't really think maybe Elajuan without the assist. Elajuan didn't have the pass, and he had a little bit more scoring. But Elajuan was way more fluid. He was so athletic. Yeah, he's way more athletic. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, Yolkitch moves like one of them elephant robots in Star Wars. Do you know the ones you know what I'm talking about? He's just slow in plotting, but there's something about him where he's always balanced, so he never has to pick up his dribble without knowing what he's doing. And he's just so unassuming. That's the other thing, too. No matter how good he is or how many games we see him dominate, you still sleep on him when he's out there. Every single time. Right now I'm sleeping on him. And you know he won. And he's in shape, because he looks pudgy and he looks slow. But the guy, I don't think he took a minute off last night. Tyson Fury basketball? Is he in shape? No, Tyson Fury, not in shape. Tyson Fury basketball? He might be the Tyson Fury basketball. He might be the Tyson Fury basketball. Tyson Fury basketball. You want to know something wild about this? So the president of the Nuggets, the guy who put together this team, right, is not the current president. He left to go take the job in Minnesota, right? But he put together this team. Jamal Murray tears his ACL. What is it, like, a year or two ago? Yeah. And it took him, like, a whole year to come back. So the new president of the team is going to get all the credit for doing nothing. Damn. Like, they didn't even, they didn't match Tim Connelly's contract, right? So he, and he had the offer up in Minnesota. So he's like, I got to do this right for my family. I got to go take it. The team he put together with the same coach, all the same stars, all the same trades, the whole thing, everything that he put in place could win the championship. And then he's not going to get the credit for that because he's with another team. And he went on to make one of the worst trades of all time once he got there. Which is? The Rudy Gobert trade. Why'd that a bad trade? It's not working. So many years, a year. It looks bad. And they gave up like five firsts in a lot of young town. Yeah, I didn't understand that whole seven first round picks or whatever the fuck it was. So what was the idea? The idea is like a super dominant big- Twin towers. Twin towers. Carl Anthony towns, Rudy Gobert. Yeah, and yeah, that's just a really tricky thing. You could see how having a big creates crazy matchup difficulties if they're as skilled as Jokic. Yeah, which is what? One in a million. That's the thing. That's the thing. If you're not as skilled as Jokic, now here's the thing. Embiid might be close. But even I'll be honest with you with Embiid, I think Embiid found a game too late. What you mean? They say that with smaller players, they find the game. And with bigger guys, the game finds them. You're walking around 6'6 in fucking middle school, all of a sudden the high school coach is walking up to you going, have you played basketball before, tried, you know. And because of that, they just don't log the same amount of hours. You look at a guy like Kairi Irving, right? Who has had 200,000 hours just dribbling a basketball. He has been in every possible situation. It is impossible to rattle Kairi Irving outside of like watching YouTube videos at two in the morning. There is nothing that could like blow his mind on a basketball court. You sent a double team to him, you sent a triple team to him. He's already thinking four moves ahead, he's out of there. He is a absolute basketball genius, right? Because he's been playing since he's a fucking toddler. You don't think it's nothing that you could rattle Kairi? Maybe Kairi just ain't heard the right trash talk. What does he have to, what do you have to say? Anti-Semite, like the whole crowd just chanting it. Oh, I think that's when he starts dropping buck to you. Like, really? Really? Yeah. Yeah. If you want to scare him, be like, the Jews are coming. It's my time now. Wow. But yeah, so it's like, I think a lot of times with the bigger players, and I think Jokic is the exception, is the bigger players, they start to get rattled in the playoffs, because when you throw certain things at them, they just haven't had the hours of play against it, like a young player has. When a guy like Jokic, he plays the game like he's been playing since he's two years old. Like that's the only thing he's done his entire life. Yeah, and I think he started playing late if I'm not mistaken. Jokic? I thought I read that somewhere. No, he played as a kid. He didn't. Them motherfuckers out there only play basketball and soccer. There's like two sports. Where's he from again? Slovenia or whatever. He's Serbian? Serbian? Yeah, let me double check. But still, like, that's what you do, especially if you're tall over there, you're playing basketball. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting, man. And also too, I think what this playoffs is showing us is like, that whole era of pairing superstars, that shit was never really gonna work, and you have to have a team. Miami's a great basketball team. The Nuggets are a great team. Those players have spent time together. There's a system there, right? I'm saying chemistry over superstars. Chemistry over superstars all day, because we really haven't seen the super team thing work. Yes. We're in Miami. They're going to say Warriors. Yeah, Warriors, Lakers. Now, why do we say that? That was actually the draft. Like, KD came into a system that was already there. Like, that was a plug-and-play system. Harrison Bond was giving people buckets before KD came. All they did was sign KD in for agency and place them in a system. Okay, okay, okay. So Boston, the big three. Yeah, okay. There's a thing we have to look here. So are you saying that it doesn't count as having a super team if there are superstars that have come up within the system? Yeah, if it's through the draft, if it's through the system. Because Golden State Warriors was a super team. They just developed those players. Absolutely. But it's still a super team. Straymon is a second-round pick. Still a super. But Yochich. Yes. Especially in his heyday was a superstar. Because of that system. I think he is a superstar. No, no, I mean that sincerely. I think now it's not- Yes, he is. But I think that system helps him a lot. Of course, of course, of course. I'm not taking away from the system. I'm not taking away from the coaching. What I'm saying is they had arguably the two greatest shooters to ever be on the same team together. That's right. And then you add KD to that mix. And then you have the greatest offensive player in history. Like, that is a super team. It just, like you were saying, was developed from within for the most part and because of that they have this kind of innate chemistry. That team won a championship and went 73 and nine before KD came there. No, no, there's no doubt. We're on the same page of that. I just thought you were saying just because you have superstars doesn't mean you're gonna win. You can win with superstars as long as they're baked into the chemistry. You gotta have role-players, man. Because think about it. They put the heat together. Son. And then they gutted that team to put the heat together. Think about the heat right now. Their star two guard is injured. They throw a depot. Their star six man is injured. Tyler Harrow. Tyler Harrow, yep. Two of their most recognizable players aren't even playing and they're an eighth seed that is gonna be in the championship. Yes, great system. Great system, great coaching. And incredibly unique super talents in Jimmy Butler. Jimmy's different. Incredibly unique super talent. I saw Ryan Davis and I saw other people saying that cause Ryan never believed in the will to win thing which I think is crazy, right? But you can't believe in it if you've never seen it. Right. But he said watching Jimmy Butler makes him believe everything he didn't believe about Michael Jordan. Yeah, that was a good thing. The things we used to say about what we said Michael Jordan had a undeniable will to win when Michael was on the court. It didn't matter what the score was. You knew Michael was gonna find a way to win the game. That's how people are looking at Jimmy Butler. But it's not Michael Jordan level, guys. And when you have that will to win and makes the players around you play. Absolutely. Cause that's what Butler's doing. What do you mean by that? That's interesting. He's playing so hard that everybody around him, they don't ball like that, but everybody's balling. You know we forget Jimmy was hurt. In the next series he's turned his fucking ankle. Are you saying that they're seeing his effort and they're trying to match his effort? Or are you saying that his dominance makes them feel more confident and then they can play? I think it's all of them. A combination of both. I think it's a combination of all of them. Like that's what Michael had. Michael had a undeniable will to win. He was already better than everybody on the court. But it was just something about his DNA that was like, I'm not losing this game. Y'all come with me. His teammates were terrified of him. I don't think the heat are terrified of Butler. You don't think so? No, I think it's a different energy. It feels a lot more like we. Miami Heat feel like we, where everybody still holds each other accountable. Like don't be lazy, don't fuck up, but we're in this together. And the Bulls were, it's like everybody was attached to the greatest athlete in the history of professional athletics. It was still a we. Like the Bulls, we don't, I don't know why we don't, we talk about Michael and Pippin, but don't talk about their amazing role player that they had throughout that whole run. Tony Kukos, there's like. Kukos, Rodman, Horace Grant. I think that those guys get credit. Paxton, BJ Armstrong, Steve Kerr. No, no, no, you're getting a little crazy. But I feel those guys get credit. Paxton and Armstrong and Kerr! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They actually saved the Bulls a couple of times. Kerr and Paxton definitely. No, they did their job, which was to hit open three. That's right. They didn't save the Bulls. Michael Jordan saves them by being down 12 and then bringing them within two points with three seconds left. Absolutely. You know what's so interesting? That's a good point. Yeah. Rob Parker was on Breakfast Club. Okay. Rob Parker was saying he can't put Steph Curry as the greatest shooter of all time because he said, if you had to pick between Ray Allen, Steph Curry and Reggie Miller, four seconds left, who would you give the ball to to hit the final shot? And he was saying Reggie and Ray have done that more. And I'm like, well, by that logic, Robert Ory is the greatest shooter of all time. By that logic. Great fucking point. You know what I'm saying? Great fucking point, Sean. Yeah, that's not how we're judging greatest shooters all the time. No! If we want to have a clutch conversation, we could do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Clutch conversations are very different conversation. You're gonna start to have to put different people in there. I mean, Kobe, Braun. Yes. He's credibly clutched. And what's funny is in the beginning of his career, everybody was talking about how he was a choke artist. Turns out statistically, there's only one person that's hit more fourth quarter go-ahead buckets in the last three minutes or whatever the way you define a clutch shot is. I think it's about when you hit him though. I think it's cool. Well, that's what I was saying within the last three minutes. You know what I'm saying? I think it's about when you hit him. If it's the last three minutes of game 42 in the regular season. Yeah, yeah, playoff games. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If it's playoffs in the NBA finals, it's different. That's when legends are made. Well, I think nobody's done it to the level of Reggie Miller. And maybe I felt that more because I'm a Knicks fan, but like, Reggie's ability to shoot the ball in clutch situations was unprecedented. You know, we hold people to moments, right? And I realized that when LeBron and the Lakers were down 3-0 and everybody was like, he's, you know how he kits? No, we don't. He's done this one time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't know how he gets. Well, Reggie Miller, even though he was super clutch, but it's that everybody thinks about that one time when he hit the three, then stole the ball and hit another three with five seconds left for some shit like that. I mean, what was it, seven points and four seconds? Oh my God. He had a crazy one on Jordan. And towards the end of his career, he had two or three crazy ones on the nets in the playoffs. I mean, he was very consistent. He was that dude. He was that dude. Reggie was phenomenal. He was phenomenal. LeBron said he's considering retiring. Yo, can I ask a question real quick? I wonder if there's a height component to clutch shooting. What do you mean? It's easier to get your shot off when you're 6'11 or whatever Robert Orree is. When you're 6'7 going up against like a 6'2 guard like Reggie Miller was. When you're 6'7 or 6'6, like Kobe or Jordan, like Steph, it's objectively harder for him to get his shot off. Hell yeah. And he can do it effectively during the game, but maybe in those clutch moments, because I think that's what some people are saying right now. They're like, oh, Steph has missed. He's over 12 in clutch. Go ahead and ask it or whatever. But I wonder if these guys that we see as clutch shooters, just get a much clearer shot at the end of the game by proxy of how much taller they are than the guys defending them. You know what's so great about Ray Allen though? Ray Allen was like 6'6. Yo, I don't see Ray as a clutch shooter. Really? He only hit that corner three. You see that clutch? She had a signature clutch shot at Yukon. Those are the two. Yeah, I forgot about the college thing. And then the one in the corner, I'm like, yeah, you hit it, but it's the easiest shot to hit in the NBA. A corner three, you're talking about foul line extended. Like it's not like a big, like you should hit an open clutch. He was very fluid how he caught it in one. All the credit in the world, but I'm not putting him up there with Reggie and Kobe because he hit that one. Reggie and Kobe were getting theirs. Like Ray got a 10th rebound thrown to him and I can't throw you up there with the goats for that. I mean, Jordan jumped up. Ray was a phenomenal shooter though. No, no, no, no. There's no question about a shooter, but like Jordan jumped out against Cleveland, jumped up in the air, waited for the white guy to fall, then shot it. That's fucking buckets right there. You did that a bunch of times, Byron Russell in the final. Those are the things we remember, but that's what I mean is about when you do it. The reason Ray has that clutch stigma is because of the college shot, is because of Miami. Jordan been doing that since college. I remember the USC shot, finals after championship game. Yup. Yeah. Yeah. When you get it, you get it. Yeah, I think it's like who are you most afraid of? Like I'm afraid of Michael Jordan with that basketball. I'm afraid of Kobe Bryant with that basketball. I'll be honest. I got PTSD. Yo son, Bird. Bro. Bird. Bird, not blocking the shot. Bird kind of getting lost in the sauce, man. Yo, but that's life, bro. Bird might be number two behind Jordan. I hate to say it. You killed me. I hated him. No, stop. Yo, yo. No, no, no, hold up. Have you guys heard the story? Have you guys heard the story, the bird story? They come out of the huddle. There's a one second left or something like that. One second left down by one. Dennis Johnson is gonna be inbounding it, okay? Play gets written up by the coach and it's going to Danny Ainge, okay? So DJ Dennis Johnson is like, okay, I gotta get the ball to Ainge. DJ's a rookie, I think, right? The ball's gotta go to Danny Ainge, gotta go to Danny Ainge, that's where it is. They break the huddle. Bird goes, okay, let's do this. Everybody breaks as they're walking onto the floor. Bird walks up to DJ, goes, just get me the ball. And DJ goes, what? He goes, just get me the ball, right? So DJ's a fucking rookie, right? He's about to defy his coach in a last second shot situation. It's like, what the fuck do I do? Gets the ball inbound it, get to the bird, bird hits a game, win a shot, done. Danny Ainge is fucking furious. And he's like, that, but that's bird. That's bird, that dude. The bird is a bird is dope, I was alive for bird. I saw bird, but number two behind Jordan, stop. I'm gonna say this as a- Magic eight is lunch. Danny? What you talking about? I don't know, man, I don't know about it. Magic said, bird is the greatest of all time, not second. Until Michael came around. No, no, no. That was when Michael was playing magic. You know he did. Magic took me- No, no, no, that's a little slight to Jordan, too. I don't agree. No, no, I think that's magic going. This is my number one competitor, so I'm gonna give it to the guy that I battled with. Magic beat him in college. I mean, even though they didn't beat the Lakers two in the finals, but Lakers beat them in the finals. Like, what, twice? Yeah, but Magic had a much better team. Like, is that even? Bird had a good team. Bird had a good team. Bird, yo, that Celtics was beast. Just name the other guy- Kevin McKell. Name the other guy that happens to be on the Lakers. Karim. Karim. Say that one again. Karim. Who is arguably- That's true. The greatest NBA player of all time if he wasn't such a dickhead outside of basketball. If Karim was like a likable fun guy outside of basketball, he would probably still be marketed as the greatest. How likable do we want a 111-year-old man to be, y'all? Fun. At some point- Yeah, you don't need to be too likable. Yeah, dude, what's up, man? Why don't we do that to Karim? But he was never, though. That's a thing. Some people said he was a jerk. I like Karim, but that's the reputation he had so that never people- Also, his name is terrifying, the white people. There's like a lot of things going on. He was an airplane. He had a great scene in an airplane. He was in that Bruce Lee joint, too. For all we know, Karim might've wanted to be fun, but nobody ever was fun with him. Yo, what if he had a great sense of humor? They just didn't ask. And nobody even wanted to fight. He's too serious. You know what I mean? No, he's being so sad. That's why you gotta try everybody with a joke. I try everybody with a joke. And I try to go raunchy first. Just to set the tone. Yeah. And see what they're about. Yeah. You'll be surprised. What did you say to Karim? I'm like, oh, man. How long you been scaring white people with that name? Just to see. Break the ice. You know what I mean? And what do you think he would do? I have no fucking idea. What do you think? Maybe he just pulls his dick out, slaps you on the top of the head with it. Oh. The dick jokes will always get you there. Who? Karim. Really? Oh, yeah. He's in Dave. Karim did episode of Dave. I'm bugging. Respect, respect. Karim did episode of Dave. He's wanting to be fun all these years. And nobody's been giving him that fun. Did you hear the Karim story he tells about Will Chamberlain? No. He goes, Will Chamberlain is one of the most motivating people in my life. But he was an unbelievable asshole. And the interview is like, what are you talking about? He goes, he had an unbelievable ass. He goes, I mean, one time we were in the elevator. And we were in this building and a guy walks in and he sees Will Chamberlain and he's excited. And he tries to say something funny to him. And he goes, hey, Will, how's the weather up there? And Will looks at him and spits in his face. Spits in Karim's face? No. You don't listen. I'm gonna be honest with you. I got so distracted because I've been thinking, why does Shones get these old ass NBA stores? No, he was still thinking about that. Dick being slapped by his son. Okay, I'm gonna tell the story very quickly. One more time. Will Chamberlain on the elevator. Karim and Will during the elevator, okay? A guy walks into the elevator, third person's in the elevator. The guy looks up at Will Chamberlain, who's an absolute God superstar, and goes, oh my God, Will Chamberlain. He goes, hey, how's the weather up there? Which is like a hacky joke that you say to tall people. He spits on them and he spits on them. And he goes, it's raining. Oh yeah, I've heard that joke from tall people before. Probably hitting the fifties though. It's going, what? It's going, what? What? It's going, what? It's probably hitting the fifties, man. This is what's like doing. I hate what he's doing. This is like, so that hip hop gets a show of it. If you don't make your point within 1.25 seconds, his brain is a fucking periket. It's the pop. He's a fish. It's just like, oh, the food over here, what's going on? Huh, my phone, somebody. I thrive in quick hits, man. I know, I know. I know. Let's just go fast. Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum and tell somebody said something so fucked up that we got to edit it and slow it down. It's LeBron retiring though. Fuck no, he's just using it as leverage. It is amazing to me. He likes the drama. He likes to play the game. He got to change the narrative. If you don't get this guy on the team. Oh. We're changing the narrative. So instead of y'all talking about the nugget sweeping me, you know what I'm saying? Y'all was sitting around talking about me retiring. It's almost like, it's almost like, you know what? I'ma leave if y'all make fun of me. That's actually. Fuck, that's brilliant. I'ma leave if y'all make fun of me. Kill the story with a story. Kill the story with a story. That's fucking brilliant, dude. Because the slander started, I noticed last night, well, yeah, you can play it, go ahead, Taylor. Bro, hold on before you play it. Killing the story with a story is the only way you can do it and he did it fucking masterfully. That's like what Fox News did. Remember when they had an $800 million lawsuit to Dominion and then they fired Tucker and then nobody has talked about that Dominion lawsuit since. I mean, because the one who really cares. They would have fucking cared. You know who else would have cared? CNN, but they couldn't talk shit about it because they also fired Lemon. It was the perfect kill a story with a story. That right there was genius and this is great what he's doing. We're all talking about if he's gonna get Kyrie, we're all talking about if he's even gonna come back, is he gonna play with Bronny? Just CNN killed the story with a story. Well, they both had perfect timing with that. Yeah, they did Lemon and then like next week, Trump, baby, town hall, you know. So now nobody talking about Lemon, that's the game, you killed a story with a story. And it's you're pulling audience, right? Cause you're like, you're basically saying, look, I know what y'all thought about CNN in the past. We're different. We're different now. Yeah. Here goes Trump. See, I told you, we wanna play nice with you Republicans. Yeah. You know? So play the clip, Taylor. You know, it's all about availability for me and giving my mind sharp and things of that nature. Being present on the floor, being present at, you know, locker room and bus rides and plane rides, things of that nature. Just challenging, challenging, you know, for sure. It was a very challenging season, you know, for me, you know, for our, for our ball club. And obviously, you know, we know we went on early on or whatever the case may be, but it was a pretty cool, pretty cool ride. But I don't know. I don't know. I think it was okay. I don't, I don't have to say it's a successful year cause I don't play for anything besides winning championships at this point in my career. And I don't, I don't get a kick out of making a conference appearance. I've done it. A lot. And it's not fun to me to not be able to be able to be a part of, you know, getting to the finals, but, but we'll see. We'll see what happens going forward. And I don't know. I don't know. I got a lot to think about to be honest. I had a lot to think about to be honest. And just for me personally, going, going forward with the game of basketball, I got a lot to think about. You know what's interesting about this? If there's this narrative now from players where they're like, if they feel like they didn't win a championship, like the season was a bust or whatever. And like even in this, he says, you know, I'm not, I'm not, I don't feel good about just going to the Western conference finals. So if that's the case, we can't, if we're using their logic, we shouldn't, you talk about the whole totality of their careers anymore. We should only talk about finals appearances, right? If the Western conference finals don't matter and all that other stuff don't matter, Eastern conference finals, we should only talk about finals appearances and when they won championships. And if you use that metric, you know, LeBron drops his, he really drops himself in the rankings. If he's just using that metric. I think, yeah, I mean, to defend him, I think what he's saying is at this point in my career, he's like, earlier in my career, I'd be happy to even make the playoffs because I hadn't done that. But now he's saying at the end of his career, the twilight of his career, he wants to be in the finals. When he's 20 years in, he hasn't been in the finals, when he last time he went to the finals, the bubble? Was that three years ago, four years ago? He didn't even make the playoffs like one year with the Lakers. Like, you know what I mean? Like I said, that's a, it's a weird metric. I think LeBron does get a lot of unnecessary slander, but you know, as I say, as I said, this morning on Breakfast Club, with that type of greatness comes that type of slander, baby. You can't have it both ways. My therapist tells me that all the time, with that kind of success. That's the price of success. That's the price of success. That is literally it. If you don't have great success, you won't have a whole lot of criticism. That is the price of success. Comes great criticism. So everybody acts like LeBron gets this overwhelming amount of slander. No, he gets the amount of slander that somebody as great as LeBron James should get. Yes. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, 100%. You're the guy. You've been the guy for 20 years, four championships. I have a mini, I think four MVP's to go with it. Like you've been the chosen one since you were 17, 18 years old. And I know LeBron knows this. Whether or not it feels good or not, he knows that slander comes with the position. 100%. That he's in. And honestly, I don't even think him getting swept into the Western Conference finals hurts our, helps his legacy. I think LeBron's home already. No. Beating Steph helps. If he lost to Steph, I think that people would start to use that as an opportunity to chip away. I don't think beating Steph in the second round of the playoffs does anything for LeBron James' legacy. Beating him doesn't do anything. Losing to him would. You think so? He's already lost to him three times in the NBA final. Nobody thinks Steph is better than LeBron. I do. Right, nobody thinks Steph is better than LeBron. I think he's the second greatest basketball player who, Steph Curry. I've said that a million times. I think Steph Curry is the second best basketball player I've ever seen. Michael Jordan, Steph Curry, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Magic Johnson. Five best players I've ever witnessed on the basketball court. Five best players I've ever seen. There's, listen. And I'm gonna use one of Stephen A. Smith's arguments. I don't even believe you. Stephen A. Smith said, Stephen A. Smith said, he said he can't put Will Chamberlain over Bill Russell. He said, even though he feels like Will was better than Bill, he can't put Will over Bill because Bill beat him so much in the finals. So I asked that to Stephen A. Burr-Better. Well, shouldn't that same logic apply to Steph? Same exact logic. You could, Steph beat LeBron James three times in NBA finals, guys. I thought that's what we measure greatness by. If you're the best, you should beat me. Multiple times. You should own me. And that's the only narrative that's gonna always hurt LeBron. Traymond Green also beats LeBron James in the finals. Is Traymond Green better than LeBron James? You don't do that with nobody else. You don't compare a role. But that's the case, Cary Irvin. Is Cary better than LeBron? Because Cary averaged 30 plus points in that comeback series against Golden State, those last three games. No, no. I guess what I'm trying to say is that you can't just use that scenario to say that someone is better than someone else. So what's the scenario? Just ball, just basketball? Yeah, just their skills are basketball. And their ability to win, and they have an equal ability to win, right? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Go, go, go. The ability to win, I beat you three times. But how many rings do they both have? Four. But I beat you head up three times. So why weren't you even there in the situation for me to beat you? I beat you three times. Why weren't you good enough for me to beat you in the finals? There's many years where Steph and his cohorts were not good enough for LeBron to beat him in the finals. Where the fuck were you? What are you talking about? Did LeBron only beat Steph in the finals to win his four rings? No, did LeBron only beat Steph? No, he beat, who he beat? He beat Steph, the Spurs and the Mavericks. Not the Mavericks, who he beat? I think they got one back on the Mavericks, all right? Oh, the Heat. LeBron got his four rings. He beat the Heat with the Lakers. Spurs with the Heat once. Yeah. And somebody else, the Heat. My point is that there are years where Steph's team wasn't even good enough to play against LeBron in the finals. The Foss played 20 years, Steph played 14. But now you're making different arguments. I guess what I'm saying is- What's the Golden State Warriors? I think they built that through the draft. You're only punishing LeBron for his losses against Steph in the finals. You're not punishing Steph for not even being able to bring his team to the finals. That makes zero sense. And I'll tell you why. They're playing, the Western Conference was so tough. And we're acting like they didn't build the Golden State Warriors through the draft over some years. But once they built, once that nucleus of Dreymon, Clay and Steph figured it out, they've been there. Means their finals like six times over the last, what, eight years? So it's finals appearances? Yes. Well then, LeBron wins by your argument. How? He's had more finals appearances. The Eastern Conference sucked. But forget all the finals appearances. When we played head up, I beat you three times. This is, I don't understand how this is a debate. Like, I beat you three times in the finals. I will always be able to have that over you. Yeah, because you had a better team. What, so what, man? What does it matter? I mean, was Isaiah Thomas better than Michael Jordan? There's times. Was Isaiah Thomas better than Michael Jordan because of how many times the Detroit Pistons beat the Bulls? Once the Bulls figured it out, Pistons couldn't fucking do nothing with them. Or once the Pistons got old, once they lost Rodman. Like, there's a lot of other arguments to go into. And there's times the Bulls weren't the best team in the finals. I think people forget that. I think we look back at history and we say, does Phoenix Sun's team, when Charles Barclay won the MVP that year, with Kevin Johnson, Dan Marley, Danny Ains, Richard Dumas, Cedric Sabales, that team won, like, 64 games that year. What do you mean? Nobody was worried about the Phoenix Suns. Yo, yo, yo, you're crazy. I used to play with them in NBA Jam. That was phenomenal. Richard Dumas had, like, the best year of his career averaging 21 points in the game. And nobody was like, who the fuck is Richard Dumas? I thought the Phoenix Suns was going to beat the Chicago Bulls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fun to think that because we all want the underdog to win, but it's never going to fucking happen anymore. Four or two. Barclay won the MVP that year. They was smoking. Calm along when MVP is during Jordan's reign. It was stupid, but he won it. There's 15 promoting for the same place. You thought you had to be a great team. And you thought you had to team was a phenomenal team. Like, phenomenal. Like, you got, number one, you got John Stockton, the all-time assist leader. And you got Calm along the third leading most, has scored the third most points in the NBA history. That was a phenomenal team. Like, I was just arguing with somebody about this the other day. I'm like, why do we act like Michael Jordan didn't play all-world elite teams? The Lakers. I'm not saying he didn't. The Trailblazer. Yeah, the Portland team was really good. What? With Clyde Drexler, Terry Porter, and all of them? That shit was phenomenal. Even the Sinus team won 60-plus games that year with Gary Payton and Sean Kemp. Sure, but the Bulls weren't the underdogs. I don't know what they were against the Suns. I'm not sure about that year. I can't fathom. I don't know. I really don't know. All I'm simply saying is, Michael beat all of those guys and those were elite teams. Yeah, I'm not saying he didn't beat the elite teams. And some of those teams might, other than Michael Jordan, might have had better role-players. And he still beat them. You know, with no excuse, there's six and no NBA finals. So you're saying that LeBron can only say he's better than Steph if he beat him all those times in the finals? I'm not saying that. I think with the eyeball test, yes. LeBron James is probably a more all-around player than Steph Curry. I just feel like for what I like in a basketball player, Steph Curry has those killer traits like a Kobe Bryant, a Michael Jordan, like this will to win that is just phenomenal. And he proved it. He won a championship without KD. KD comes, he wins two. He comes back and wins another one. That says a lot about a person to me. And he hasn't moved, you know what I'm saying? He stayed there at Golden State that whole time. Yeah, but that's easier. Is it? It's way harder to move to a different city, build a new team, have a new coach, new organization, new everything that is to stay within the same organization and build and then create a system of culture. So why didn't LeBron take the easy way to stay in Cleveland? Well, I think the easy way would have been to stay in Miami, not Cleveland. He went to the finals, Matt Thomas in Cleveland. It seems like you're not giving Golden State any credit for the luck that they've experienced. Why is it luck? So what is it for LeBron then? I mean, it's lucky that they drafted two guys that ended up working out. I mean, Steph's whole career could be nothing, right? Like the guy was rolling his ankles every time he ran up the floor, he got with a good doctor, he got with a good physical, whatever the fuck that is, and then rebuilt the lower parts of his body to have more strength, et cetera. LeBron James spends a million dollars a year on his body. What are we talking about? Like all of these guys do that. Like you should get the best coaches and the best trainers and doctors. I'm just saying that it seems like you're not giving them credit for any luck. I don't know if I believe in luck in basketball. I believe it's a skill set and you build a system. Like if somebody shows me on paper that LeBron James, Anthony Davis, Steph Curry, let's just say they're all in the same team. You know you've got something there. So what is your argument that just Steph is better than LeBron, that's the argument? I just got Steph is my number two greatest player of all time. Okay, that's fine. I don't, it's not to do it. And I think when it's all said and done, when they sitting around old, talking shit to each other, Steph is always gonna be able to say, I beat you three times in the final, LeBron. Yeah, I mean, like, listen. We played in the final four times, I beat you three. By your argument, Eli Manning is a better quarterback than Tom Brady, you are right. Only difference is one fundamental difference with that. I went there nine times, Eli. Yeah, you bust my ass twice, but I went nine and one seven. LeBron went to the finals how many times? 10 and got as many as Steph. But still, he went there 10. He went 10 and got as many rings as Steph. By your argument, when they played head to head, I agree with you, Eli Manning is a better quarterback than Tom Brady, by your argument. Okay, so Eli Manning, so quarterback's in the NFL, according to you, go Eli Manning, then Tom Brady? No, no, no, no, no, no. You said by my logic, for a game, for two games, and when it counted, Eli busted his ass. Eli can always talk that shit. By the way, Eli, the only person who really can, maybe the guy in Philly, but not like the Eli can. But according to your logic, number one is Eli Manning. No, that don't make any sense because Tom Brady got seven rings. Steph and LeBron have the same amount of rings. Yes, if LeBron went to the finals 10 times and lost three to Steph, but he still had seven rings, yeah. But he lost three times to Steph, he went to the finals 10 times and got the same amount of rings as Steph, and I beat you three? Come on, man. I could talk some shit if I'm Steph Curry. I'm not saying you can't talk, I could talk some big shit. But there's no way that he's better. I just got him number two. That's fine. LeBron is better? Then LeBron? Yeah. Because that's the one that really, I don't understand how people gloss over. I can understand the Steph debate all day long. I just do that to argue. But the Kobe Bryant, it's hard for me to say LeBron's better than Kobe Bryant. I don't see it. That's a tricky one. That's hard, yeah. But no one even mentions Kobe. Kobe don't even get mentioned. He don't even get mentioned. LeBron never had a player alongside him as dominant as Shaq was. Man, Shaq left and Kobe won two more. Stop doing that to Kobe. Paul Gasol might be better than anyone LeBron's had beside him. That's a good point too. Get the fuck away, guys. Who's better than LeBron's player than Shaq? Kyrie, maybe. That's a question. Anthony Davis? That's a question. I'll take Paul Gasol away, Anthony Davis. No. If, I mean, okay. A healthy Anthony Davis? Anthony Davis, I'm taking a healthy Anthony Davis. There is no such thing. Jesus Christ. They don't know that. They didn't know that, going into it. Okay, anyway, so you don't think LeBron's retiring? All right. Damn. How the fuck we always start off like the goddamn all the small podcasts? What the fuck is going on, man? All right. Also, can I put a button on this LeBron thing real quick? Because people think I hate LeBron. I do not hate LeBron. The only thing I say about LeBron is he's not the greatest NBA player of all time. That's Michael Jordan. We can debate two on down after that. That's it. I got LeBron in my top five. I think the slander that he gets is justified only because of how great he is. You know when slander is not justified? When you just shitting on a person that is not even remotely on the level that the slander warrants. You know what I'm saying? For LeBron James to be who he is, I expect him to get the type of slander he gets. I expect him to get all the memes. I expect everybody to talk shit to him. I expect people to call him washed up. I expect people to say it's over for him. Even though for 20 years all he's done is be consistently great. You know what I'm saying? He's been consistently great for 20 years. Those are the kind of careers I like, people. I like longevity and consistency. Those little flashing the pan shit that come and go. Not for me. I like playing forever. And LeBron has been literally playing forever. It's too long, actually. He might need to retire. Konzuri, fellas. Have you ever wished you were a little bit taller? I can't relate. I wish I was a baller, bro. 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Blessing man, your blessing is five, six and you don't even know it. What do you mean? A lot of these tall women, man, they out here overlooking the short kings for no reason. You know what I mean? And I can't stand short women who have the nerve to ask for tall girls. You don't want a tall man like, you know what I'm saying? What if I'm six, seven? I'm looking at your short ass. Why would I breed with you? Yeah. What if I want NBA players? What if I want little LeBrons? Yeah. I'm gonna get them with you and use five, three. So do you think that there should be some segregation with height when it comes to dating? That's a good question. I just think women, especially tall women, should stop being so picky about height. Cause I think that short man could be their blessing. And I think short women should just shut the fuck up. Yo, don't you think it looks a little weird though when a girl's way taller than the dude? No. I look at that man, I look at that man. I salute that king. I'm not gonna lie, I was fucked up. I salute that king. I feel like he got a big dick. He's funny, he's intelligent, you know what I'm saying? Probably from Monks Corner, you know what I mean? That's what I think when I see that image. Wait, your girl's not taller than you? I don't know, I'm just talking. So was that like a, getting a tall girl, was that a prize? No, it was back in the day. I never even thought about it until I'm like, damn. You are like six one in heels. You are five 11 with no shoes on. I never even thought about it. Would you ever like put their sneakers on by accident? Would there be like a situation like that? That he'd have room? I mean those are tall women who used to wear heels a lot. You look wide in the tall man. Here come a short woman. Short women. I don't want to say seven guy. That's not good. Oh, thank God. So reasonable. Six, seven. Exactly, it sounds crazy. That's what he's just saying, that's all I'm saying. What height? 5'10 to 6'2. Are you willing to date somebody your height? I don't know. That's fucked up. 5'10 isn't that bad. I'm cool with that, but listen, you all have to understand, especially for tall women, they want someone to feel, they want to feel secure. They are secure. They six four walking around. They want the man to feel, they want to feel protected with the man. And this is nothing against your man. You're most NFL winning man. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Like five, seven, eight. You wouldn't feel protected around Mike Tyson? How tall is Mike Tyson? 5'10. They say 5'10. I'm cool. Meet him in person. He's shorter. Meet him in person. They say 5'10. But that's different. You're talking about a scale. You're talking about a scale, Sharla. Nothing against you. You're short. Are you fighting? What's wrong? I'm asking a question. My height don't fight. That's what I'm saying. My height don't fight. My height don't fight. But that's what you're making up for. I'm beat up 26-foot-tall people. Okay, talk your shit. Okay, talk your shit. Okay, okay, okay. In my life, I've won a lot of fights. I'm usually shorter than everybody. Like... Well, again, you're just trying to say... That shit hurt him, man. I just want to let you know in two seconds. It hurt him, man. I'm just saying... Did you ever teach a son? No, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't. I'm just saying... Did you ever teach a son? I'm just saying... But you're trying to compare Mike Tyson... Yo, all the time... Listen, you're trying... You're Uncle Tom of short people, yo. I'm not just... You're Uncle Tom of short people, yo. You hurt that man, yo. You hurt that man. I apologize, yo. Why? Because you fight through... Because listen, I do not want... ...discriminating against other short individuals. Thank you for looking at my height, because I'm actually 5'1". 5'1"? What's that? How you gonna be 5'1"? But that's a thing, no. Well, listen. Well, listen. That's crazy. Show us. Come from a tall person. Taylor, you should get a check. Wait, let me ask you a question. Come from a tall person. And you see me and a guy at my height. You're like, oh, they're cute. Like, you're not gonna think of it as no threat or nothing like that? Why would I want y'all to be a threat? I don't want... It's not about what it's right. Taylor, Taylor. That's how you know she from Philly. Couple's gotta look like threats. If they don't look like a threat, they not in love. I need two dumbs. I'm just saying, good boy. If I see you and another guy maybe around your height. Yeah. Together, I'll probably ask you if your parents are around. Like, I'll be like, are you guys lost? But, but, but... I might do that. I might do that. That's jokes, though. Like, I don't wanna look like it's jokes. That happened to do all the time square one time, yo. I promise you, man, this was years had to be like 11, 12 years ago. We was walking in time square and it's two walks up and do all the time. Hey, man, you know what? You know what? You know what? I laughed so fucking hard. This is like 12 years ago. This was so long ago, yo. We just walking around time square trying to figure life out. And he was like, hey, man, you know what? I told you, I said, you know what? The kids don't hurt men. Bro. But also... Yo! Look. Short guys, especially in New York, they have anger issues, too. So that's awesome. What? How tall are you, Alex? 5'10". You are a wow. You just... You just... You just... You just... You just... You are a wow. You just fucking came in here short shaming, then just straight up told us that all short people got anger issues. Yeah, like what the fuck is that? Like, where you got this from? They do. New Yorkers have anger issues. They do. You go like, I'm getting away with 5'10". 5'10". 5'10". 5'10". And sneakers. He already has colored nails. And a good sneaker. And a good sneaker. What do they call it? Kazunis? Kazunis. Kazunis is some Kazunis. Okay, so short people got anger issues in New York. Everybody has anger issues in New York. Okay, so I would say in New York then. The hot record in New York right now is I'm from New York. What the fuck I look like telling a nigga good morning? You're making up some fucking manners, man. That's a hit, right? That's a hit, right? I mean, it's a good record. I don't know if it's a hit. It's a good record. Anyway. I mean, she got to follow up. You know what I'm saying? It's a buzz record. It's a record that gets you a buzz. Who's this? Scarlips. Scarlips? Scarlips. Yeah, it's a record that gets you a buzz. You know, you got to follow up with something. Yo, when you shorts were fighting like that, bro, that was crazy. You shorts. Yo, like. Yo, why would you add an S to everything? It sounded crazy. It does, right? Everything, you add an F to it. It sounded like bigotry, no matter what it is. I hit it. You talls. Yeah, talls, bro. You facts. We're not really worried about shit. Yo, you fats. Always coming in Whole Foods for no reason. Yeah, you fats. Like, you know what I'm saying? Fucking fats. You could buy the Whole Food here? I'm here for the Whole Food. Yo, shout out to fats, bro. Yo, flute though. For real, should fats only be able to date each other? No, it's different. No, it's not different. It is different. It's always different. You're talking about a body type versus a height. Height is body type. Yeah, but we're talking about a type like thick versus skinny. Tall versus short. Yeah, but a height, that matters more. Because to me, I don't care if a guy is 5'11", or whatever, but he's a little thick. I'm cool with that. Taylor, there's a 6'2", 420 pound person out there right now who's saying I would rather be 5'6", and 160 pounds. No, he's not. Yes. Absolutely. God damn it. This person probably dealing with all type of health issues. I'm sure he's not saying he's got to be 5'6". And the doctor probably telling him to lose weight and it's probably tough for him. And he's like, I would much rather be 5'6", 160. I'm sure he's not saying he's got to be 5'6". He would trade that fat for that height in a heartbeat. I'm sure he's not saying the height thing. I'm sure he's not saying the height thing. You would have to be taking shots at Ross this week. Damn. Damn. That's crazy, bro. I don't even know what that means. But... Listen, shots of Ross, shots of Rick Ross. Salute to Ross and salute to Envy, man. Salute to Envy, bro. Can we have a piece? I don't like these guys beefing, man. I don't like it either, especially when it starts getting about everything except for the car shows. You know what I'm saying? If you keep it at the car shows and you make jokes about each other's car shows, whose car show is flyer, whose car show gets to most people, all that's great. But it's getting too serious now? Everything else has been too much. And listen, man, you can never tell nobody how to react. I say that all the time. You cannot tell people how to react. That's why sometimes you got to leave people alone because you might push a person. That person might pull out a gun and shoot you. Whoa. You know what I'm saying? In our mind, we're like, yo, that's an overreaction. And it probably is, but who are we to tell that human they overreacted? Yeah. You know, leave people to fuck alone. So my first question when I saw you, I was like, is that shit real? Because I thought it was just... Yeah, I thought everybody was going to put it around. And you know what Uncle Charlotte's about to say? What's Uncle Charlotte going to say? That's the problem with your fucking generation. You think everything's a joke? You think everything's a joke. Nobody knows when something is real anymore. Wow. You know what I mean? You do this all the time, but it's only because also, social media is the biggest playground ever. Yeah. So if you see somebody make a joke, social media can egg shit on so much that that person who got joked on may not even feel like it's a joke anymore. It may feel like... Because they feel embarrassed, they feel publicly humiliated. That's right. But you don't think egging it on by the breakfast club making clips of these beefs going back and forth, eggs it on. That's why I thought it was a joke, the fact that you guys are promoting it. Well, I didn't post it. I posted last Friday because I thought Friday was pretty in bounds. But you know, when you start mentioning families and kids and all that, you know what I mean? Like it gets... Rick Ross trending. It gets crazy. That's when it's all a bit too much. You know what I'm saying? Even when you're talking about health issues, you know what I mean? When you're talking about health issues, it's like, uh... But once again, you're talking about body how to react. So then how do we get them to reconcile? What can we do? I mean, I want NBA and Ross to still have a conversation. You know what I mean? Because listen, first of all, let's not act like all of us aren't cool. Like, I've known Ross for damn that 20 years. I've known Gunplay for damn that 20 years. Then we probably known them for just as long. Like, you know, it is dead. Like, when Ross was going through his whole thing with 50 back in the day and like a lot of New York DJs stopped playing raw shit. NBA didn't. Oh, wow. NBA was still showing Ross love, you know what I mean? Yeah. So it's just like, they know each other. That's why it's like, it's strange when things get to this level. It's like... More personal. Yeah. Pick up the phone. Yeah. I mean, have a phone call. Have a conversation. Let's get everything back in bounds. So why don't we get Ross on a breakfast club, man? I mean, if Ross wants to, Ross always got to open invitations to the breakfast club. If you maybe we can get them to reconcile. But I would rather them talk first though. Joint car show. I wouldn't want... That's what I thought about. I said that a million times. But by the way, let's be clear, both of these car shows are super successful. I'll pull my car up. NBA takes all kind of cars. NBA does four shows a year. He takes any type of car. Nobody got a car. It's nice as mine. What you got? Come on, son. What you got? What you got? Come on, son. And Ross does his car show every year once a year in Atlanta. You know what I mean? So it's like their car shows are both successful, super successful. I just... If they were just talking about cars, everything would be cool. When you start talking about all that, everything else... Family and health is what should get so tricky. Family, health, all that shit, leave it, leave it. You know, it's like, okay, all right, all right, time out. Jimmy Butler, you know what I mean? Time out. Everybody relax. Stop. Because then it becomes something else. And it's not even just about Ross and Envy. Now it's about... People that were with Ross, people that were with Envy. You know what I mean? And it gets stupid. It's just like, all right, everybody cool out. And by the way, I've seen terrible outcomes come from lesser situations. There's always these lesser situations like this, that snowball... Into the bigger things. Into some other dumb shit. And then everybody's sitting around saying, because of a car show? Yeah. Because of a fucking car show? What's a car show? I've been trying to think about what this is. I'm really done. I thought the same shit. It's a showcase of cars. So you've got to pay $500 to go look at cars? I don't think they pay $500. Wasn't that the big argument from Envy? He was like, your tickets are too expensive? But like, I don't understand. So I... It's not my cars. I don't own the cars. But I pay $500 so I can like look at them closely. Look at them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then do you meet the people that the cars are owned by? Nah. I don't think the artists are there. I think it's like... I haven't been the one... I don't think I might but I'm pretty sure at least at Envy's he sections them off. So it'll be like little babies section the cars or 50 cents car like stuff like that. I mean, I'm not a car guy. There's plenty of car enthusiasts out there that like that type of shit. Oh, so you're going to get... you're going to see famous people's cars? Yeah, just cars in general. Not just famous people but cars in general. Right. But I'm not a car enthusiast. So I, you know, stuff like car shows don't intrigue me. But there's a million car enthusiasts out there, man. I just want to see everybody. I just want to see cool ahead to prevail. I'm not mad at, you know, how anybody reacted. I just want it to stop now. Let's... Everybody's going a little too... A little too hard. Too far. What's your dream car? I'm not a... I'm really not a car person. Really? And you know what? I'm glad... It's so funny you said that to me because I say this to myself all the time and I tell my wife this. It's easy to say I'm not a car person when you can't afford probably the car you want. But you can and you still don't want it. When you can afford any car you wanted to and don't want it, you're really not a car person. I'm not into that type of show. I'm not into a lot of... I'm not into... I thank God I don't have vices for depreciating assets. I do not have vices for depreciating assets. I don't give a fuck about your design and clothes. I don't care about your cars. I like a nice watch. You know what I'm saying? I like a nice watch. But other than that I don't have those type of vices. Yeah. I like experiences. Bro, experiences over things, man. Man. That is the ethos. Man. The life ethos. There's not too many experiences I've forgotten about. Like, I'm talking about when we take lavish vacations or even just experiences when it's just like, yo, we might be kicking it at the house or something. Think about what people will say at your funeral. Will they be like, whoa, he had this car and this pair of sneakers and this whatever. That's right. No, they're going to talk about the experiences you guys have shared. That's right. Those are the things that you cannot put a numerical value on. Let me tell you something. It's better to actually have than to look like you have and all of these fucking idiots out here who compare, who try to gauge what somebody has based off what they wear. That's how you know they don't have much. Of course. That's how you know they don't have much. It's the same thing you see like people coming out of Russia or people coming out of China, right? They love the name brand on the clothing. Like Louis Vuitton and like some of these other big designers, Gucci, will make specific products for China and Russia that have the logo huge because they're coming from places of communism where everybody was on the same level. Oh. So you want, when you have money, to prove to everybody, nah, we're not one of those. I'm a richer. I'm better. I got it. Whereas old money places like in America, the old money people, they wear like raggedy shit because their money isn't popping to them. Everybody got money where they're from. Who gives a, if you own 500 acres of land or you own 500 properties. You're not trying to flex with your Gucci shirt. Do you know what I mean? Now I will say this. You're dressing like Paul Newman, dude. Regular. That is America but I'll tell you this. You go to some place like Cannes, you're gonna see it. Well, yeah, because you got the broke motherfuckers there. Like Cannes? No, I'm talking about like Cannes and like Monaco Maraos. Monaco, Monaco. Monaco? Oh my God. That's so like, so a couple of things. Like in old money, I don't know, but Monaco is basically like a way for all the Europeans to save their money and taxes. So if you make a lot of money in Europe, you move to Monaco so you don't have to spend that like crazy socialist tax rate. But in Cannes, Cannes is all like the Russians. Cannes is you get a lot of like these like big money Ukrainians and they come in there, they come from a place of poverty. So they want to prove to all the people around them they're not poor like everyone else. So they want to show the logo. They show it. You go to Cannes, you go to Monaco, you're gonna see every car imagine every fly-ass Louis Gucci brought all of that shit. That's what everybody does when they first get money. The first generation with wealth needs to prove that they're not poor like everyone else in their family. You see that in America, we do it all the time. Like you see it with a rapper that grows up with nothing. Immediately it's like, I need to show you my chain. I need to show you my cars. I need to show you all the fucking things. The people that come from generational wealth are trying to hide the fact that they have money because they understand the problems that money brings. You know fucking Warren Buffett and wearing the same outfit for the last 75 years. Bill Gates, same outfit the last 75 years. They're like, I don't want you guys to come rob me. Leave me alone. So it's to your point when you actually have it you don't need to flaunt it. When you don't have it you want to lie to people and act like you did. And when you haven't had it I've been fired four times and had to go collect unemployment checks. You know what I'm saying? That shit don't feel good. So when you get money and you're Gucci flip flops there's nothing worse than I had Gucci flip flops. No, I'm saying like your friend like you got money going to an employment line. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So like to me I like to get money and just say, what's the rush to spend it? No rush. And what are you spending it on? No rush. You know what I mean? I like making investments. I like buying property. I wish I knew more about that kind of stuff to be honest. But like for me it's all just about freedom. It's like what does this money allow me to do? Yeah, you just got to get the right financial team. Like I even with that shit with you know with Ross like renting out your house. Ross might have made a million dollars doing that. Yeah. I don't know how long the production was. Great move. Great move. You can make so much money especially if you're not even in your home. Like it's fantastic. I rented out a property that I own in Monks Corner to Righteous Gemstones. Right? The show on HBO. And it was it's cool money for a day. You know what I mean? I think they only rented it for like a day or two but it's cool money. If you just own a property and you like yeah, y'all want to use it for whatever, it's cool money to have. My parents did it back in the day. It's probably changed with back in the day. They rented out they were filming a movie downstairs in our apartment building. Really? They needed a place where they could do the makeup and all the things. So they asked they could rent our parents place. See what I'm saying? They rented it out for $10,000 for the day and we didn't even have to be out of it. Like we slept in our beds. We did. There was no because they weren't paying $10,000 and this is when I was a kid playing like Little League Baseball. So yeah, it's fantastic money, especially if you're not going to use it. But right now would you guys rent out your actual place you live if you're not there? No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do it on a regular basis. I also don't have a 54,000 square foot house. But I actually but no, no, no. Yes. I wouldn't do it as like an Airbnb like when I'm away on the weekends or something like that. But if a movie production came in and they were like, hey, can we rent your place out for $10,000 a day for 10 days and we'll put you up in a hotel or something like that? Why not? Like it's just like $100,000 to sleep in a hotel right next door. Like what do I have in my place that's so important right now? What if you had a 54,000 square foot house and you was just there was just a wing of it that they wanted even even better. That's what I'm saying. This is a no-brainer, bro. Like what if people are going to be sleeping in your bed? Are you trying to ask if Eddie Murphy really nutted in this bag? I mean, I'm just saying. That's the pushback. Poor Eddie, man. Eddie just caught a strain on this for no reason. If somebody's going to be sleeping in my bed. Yeah, that kind of changes things. So here's the thing. You could tell the production you need to bring a new mattress. I don't want you sleeping on my mattress. Why would they be sleeping in your bed? It's not a hotel. My point is when it comes to movie production there's so much money for them to throw at situations and problems. They'll be totally happy to get a Casper fucking mattress, bring that shit and put it in there. Have yours kept somewhere else. They would bring a new bed in if you wanted. Like it's so easy to get these companies that have endless amounts of money to just do whatever they want for the shoot because what's rare is the location. What did you say? It was 54,000 square feet on these crazy grounds. That's the thing they can't buy. That's the thing they can't recreate. They're shooting in Atlanta. They have to replicate a palace. I don't know what the fuck you call it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He'll bring his cars out. As he should. Certain productions. Yeah, video production. As he should. Movie, shit like that. 100%. That's the only reason having those assets matters. I even had a homeboy. I had a homeboy back in the day. He's Italian dude. He had like a blue, it was the Blue Lamborghini Rocky drove and like, I think it was the Rocky movie with Antonio Tarver. I think it was that. Oh, okay. That blue Lamborghini that he drove that old Italian dude. That's cool. I think that was some tens of thousands of dollars to rent for the movie. It's like, why wouldn't you do it? To the vintage cars you could definitely do it and that can offset some of the costs. But yeah, for me, I don't know, money is all about freedom. It's like the freedom to create the way that I want to create and do the projects that I want to do and also explore the world and have these great times with my friends and family. And yeah, and when you have conversations, it's never conversations about money for me. It's conversations about what can this money allow us to build? Yeah. What can this money allow us to do? Yeah. Like having money just for the sake of having money, like, sometimes if I get something crazy, the only person I really show is my mom. You know what I mean? But I guess the thing is like when you're not buying things to impress other people, nothing you get is crazy because it matches the passion that you have for it. So it's like if you truly love watches and you're into that and that's something that you don't see, it's not like it's unjustified. You work really hard and you should have a nice thing. I like watches. I do like watches. You know, I like going on vacation with my wife. Same. I don't have a lot of time that we get to just spend like without anybody and like going somewhere and seeing a fucking sick hotel that like somebody in the way that I love stand-up comedy, they spent their whole life on design and they spent their whole life curating the perfect like vacation experience for a guest. Like, they've dedicated their life to that. And like, seeing that to me, it's like really fucking impressive and cool and I love that time. I love like being a judge. Like, who are me and my wife to come to this beautiful fantastic place and be like, oh, the food was okay. Like, you know, it's cool. You spending your money you paying to be a judge. 100% we are. 100% we are. But it's like, it is also fun to go in those situations and it's the most fun to go in there with her and go away by something and then share that experience. Like to look at one another and then you look at a view of like the Amalfi Coast is one of the most beautiful coastlines on the planet Earth. We only have a limited amount of coastline on planet Earth and you're looking at it. You're the person you love and you're like, I cannot believe. I'm here. I'm here and I'm in a postcard. That to me is so much more valuable than, I don't know, so stupid fucking. That's why you like white lotus then. I thought it was still rich people problems, but it's immaculate. It's beautiful. The setting is beautiful. And there's high stakes drama, which is murder. I like the fact that there's people that potentially are going to die. I love Big Little Lies for that reason at HBO show. Is it Big Little Lies? Right. Yeah. I started to look that up if she wears that. Visual porn and also like brilliant storytelling. That's why you like white lotus. I'm like, I've never been to white lotus. I need a passport to go there. Fuck it. No, the white lotus thing is really cool. I don't know. So for those experiences, I don't want a Burning Man. Burning Man was really fucking expensive, but the moments that you're there with your friends, you're seeing the fucking sunrise, you know, they're smiling and happy and loving on one another. You said the realest shit because a couple of weeks ago, it was my good sister, Dolly Bishop's birthday. We flew down to where she lived at in North Carolina. And it literally was just like 15 of us at her house for the weekend. That's it. Sitting around the pool, doing plant-based medicines, drinking, talking. And that's it for me. That's it. That's all I need. I need my people and those experiences. And to the other point, I remember going to places like Anguilla, which y'all know is my favorite place on the planet, going there and touring different places. And I'm like, man, how much is this? Such a night. Like shit. Who stayed here? Oh, you know, Justin Bieber or LeBron jean. Like fuck. But then I was like, oh, man. I could experience that. I've been doing that for the last five years. You know what I'm saying? Like stuff's like that. But now it's the other thing. Seeing, we used to see like big groups on vacation. Oh, dude, I love that. Like families. I used to be like, yo, that'd be so cool to bring your family on vacation. To be able to do that. Yeah. Your mom, your nieces. Yeah. Your sister, your friend, like everybody can. Oh, there's nothing better, yo. Yeah, it's great. There's nothing better. What money is for. But I'm that type person. I'm the type person. Like I always say, if it's only benefits me, it's not big enough. What are we doing that everybody can share in this experience? I'll be honest. Yeah, nothing better. How am I shaping my kids? Yep. My little nieces with mentality with that type of shit. You know what I mean? Yeah. That's what I care about. No, it's beautiful. And that does benefit you ultimately. And like, you know, there's a reason why like doing things for others makes you feel good because we're supposed to have reward systems in our head for the things that we're supposed to do. We are smart enough to find like chemicals and pharmaceuticals and shit that we can manipulate our brain to get those good feelings. But I didn't have it naturally. You know what I mean? Like naturally helping your friend makes you feel good. I don't know, man. There's some good natural plant-based medications out there. Maybe we shouldn't not do them. The weed? What I'm saying. Oh, sugar. Ayahuasca? Also, sugar is not natural. The weed is natural. And the old weed that was natural, natural, not the ones you put the fucking chemicals in, barely gets you high compared to this weed right now. Shit is so stupid. Like you could smoke that and be regular, normal, like function fine. That new shit is crazy. I know. It's crazy. I miss those days. And even the sugar, like if you think about natural sugars, like if you're just eating an orange, first of all, that shit is hard, bro. You got to peel that, motherfucker. Like it takes time. If you're having orange juice, that's 20 oranges already peeled, squeezed into a cup. You're not supposed to drink that. But to that point, it's a good point. If you walk in somewhere and you see an orange tree and you see a nice, ripe orange off that tree and pull it off, there's nothing better. I'm saying that's right. You're supposed to have that many oranges. At this little time, are we saying the same thing again? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. We're right. We're right. No, we're right. But yeah, I don't know. I think, yeah, I think it will, I think that it's built in. A lot of this stuff is built in. And as human beings, what we're going to do is try to get the most out of what we do sometimes. That's to our detriment. Yes. You know, so it's like we're on our phone scrolling and it tricks us into like feeling good, but it's not right. It's not real for us. But then you're sitting on the beach in Anguilla and you're watching a sunset and you're like, why am I so happy? And it's like, well, yeah, because that's what we're supposed to do is sit on the beach and watch a beautiful sunset. Dipping the ocean. That's it. Like waking up in the morning and you see that shit, you're like, what the, by the way, it don't have to be in Google. It doesn't have to be in the world. Like, come on, man. Yeah. Money. There's certain things money can buy. But I think the cool thing is, is getting to the point in life where listen, I'm sure there's everybody that's listening right now or watching right now that doesn't have money is going, well, let me prove you how much money can buy. Wait till I get some money. Yeah. It's like, it's cool to get to the point where you have money and now you know the things that you want to buy with that are these experiences. They're not actual things. That's what I would tell anybody out there listening, spend your money on experiences. Forget, forget how much you have. All of us act your wage, right? But just spend the money on experiences. I just told you I had a ball in North Carolina. Like I, even though I'm from South Carolina, so it's home. Rent a Vespa with your wife and drive around fucking Rome and have the time of your life and stop and eat pizza at a random place on the mountain and just then look at the Spanish step. Like just have a day where you're exploring. Yeah. And that will cost you way less than some, I don't know, what is a crazy luxury that we buy that is completely unnecessary? It will cost you way less than a watch. It's an unnecessary, it will cost you way less than a watch but it will provide so much more joy. And it's time you'll never forget. That's facts. You know what I mean? And it's all about community too. It's about people. I'm literally sitting here thinking like, damn. I don't even know I don't even know that you knew what you just did. I don't even know if you knew what you just did. That was cold. I meant to do that. No, you didn't. I don't even remember the fuck I said. You go, I go, I go take the best for whatever you go. And that's time you'll never forget. And I go, I was like, that's better than a watch. And he goes, and you go and that's time you'll never forget. But technically a watch is the time and you'll never forget it as long as you have it. I don't know what you said but I know like if I put like some music behind it, you know what I mean with that voice, that shit will hit and I put you in black and white. What device can you wear and you'll never forget the time? What device can you? A condom. Oh my God. What? What? He's not trying to make a joke. He's being serious. Hold on. Hold on. He's like, where's the joke? I'm looking for it. I'm looking for it. I'm looking for it. Put the camera on me. Put the camera on me. These are the times where I wish that the window in the studio was real so I could throw Charlemagne at it. Hold on. You know what I found out today? I found out through Deon Cole, Salute to Deon Cole. Deon Cole showed us this video where kids don't even know how to tell time on clocks like that. On actual clocks. Like these are teenagers. Yeah. Because they're so used to everything being digital. Right? And I go, yo, that makes a whole lot of sense because I've heard so many of these rappers talk about how they don't even set their watches. They don't give a fuck. It's about the look. I'll be honest. I don't set that shit. I set it every once in a while. Let me see. It's probably off right now. What time is it this is? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So everything's digital. So they say shit like it's 9, 7, 36. What? Exactly. They don't know how to tell time on clocks like round clocks. But that makes sense. They don't know how. Huh? Exactly. That was the clock before the clock. A sundown. You just use the technology that is in front of you. Oh, I didn't even know that it was Jimmy Kimmel. Jimmy Kimmel said kids can't tell time on them. That's because they're used to digital. Let's take some videos. What? I'm getting it from all angles. I'm getting it from all angles. 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I'm just going to get back to the show. There's more TheAndrews shows.com. But we're continuing to add dates. I'm very excited. Thank you so much. All the people that came out for викon. That was insane. And Gary, Indiana. That was awesome. And so it's awesome going to be back on the road. I love it. More than anything in the world. So it's great to be back at The Andrews You know, it was a great, a great spot. Church, I had a church announcement I can't fucking remember right now. Maybe it'll come back to me. What the fuck? What the fuck, yo? I don't know. Just watch the Breakfast Club on BET. Make sure you go get Finding Tamika. Make sure you go get Summer 85 on Audible. We have a very special Audible announcement coming soon cause we have a release coming very, very, very, very, very soon. And I am so, so excited about this. But I'm taking this one very personal when this one drops. Really? Can you tell us a little bit? I don't want to say, but just know it's coming really, really soon. Like in the next couple of weeks, we'll be making the announcement. And I'm taking this one, this is a very, very personal one to me. Very personal. Why? Because of who it is, what I know the person's been through, seeing, seeing, seeing, seeing the struggle, seeing how, it's hard for ideas to come to fruition. You know that show, do you know what I'm saying? When you have a creative vision and you have a project and you've been fighting, fighting, fighting to get it heard or seen in some way, shape or form. That's why I just tell people all the time, just be patient. Just be patient. Eventually, the right situation, the right opportunity will come along. And I just think this is the beginning of so many amazing things for this individual. And I think it starts with this project. What else we got, Taylor Gang? Would you ever want a $200 million house, yo? I guess it would depend on the house, to be honest with you. Jay-Z and Beyoncé bought a $200 million house in California, in Malibu. They're saying they paid all cash for it, too. Listen, they acted and they waged. That's Jay-Z and Beyoncé, OK? They got it. But is there ever a reason, I guess, is what I'm saying? To have a $200 million house. Also, the cash thing is like a, that's not exactly like a real thing. Well, you can pay cash for your down payment. But they are saying they paid the whole thing cash. You have to pay cash for your down payment, but. I mean, they could. I mean, it could be a tax. I mean, you do stuff like that for taxes sometimes. You know what I mean? You gotta spend the money. Yeah, I think that. What most people in this circumstance do, and I didn't know this until recently, this was even an option. And this is how people with high net worth can really have a huge advantage. And in these types of circumstances is you can pay, you can take a loan out on your assets, use that loan, that line of credit as cash, buy the property and then refinance it into a mortgage. So you get all your money back. So you pay off that loan and now you have a mortgage, right? So that's how a lot of rich people pay all cash for things without actually taking their money out of the stock market or taking their money out of the investments where it's already in. I never understood it. When I would see these people in New York buying their homes all cash, I'm like, who has all this fucking money to just buy cash? But it's lines of credit against their assets. And that's how you don't take all your money out of Google or Apple or whatever, you know, stocks you have your money in. Go to that first paragraph Taylor. Smart, really smart. Yeah, that's smart. 30,000 square foot compound along the Pacific Ocean in Malibu. Yeah, Malibu is just the most expensive stretch of land on the planet. You know, I'm not even gonna say why would you buy a $200 million house? Yeah, I was surprised. Because I can see, I mean, for the while it's Jay-Z and Beyoncé, so they got the money. But I can easily see Jay-Z saying, if you walked around this house, you would understand why it's worth $200 million. My assumption is that their business manager, their advisors are telling them, and Jay-Z is obviously incredibly competent when it comes to like business decisions. Of course. But they're doing the numbers on the place like this and they're going, hey, this home and this property is gonna be worth $250 million within the next 10 years. But they already got the $88 million, that's the tagging, you know, it's like. I think, I'll be honest with you, from what I've heard is a lot of people don't feel comfortable in LA and this is removed from LA. It's Malibu, but it's not LA. You're by the water, I'm sure it's gated to even get to it. They have this home in Bel Air, but anybody can go to Bel Air. Yeah. Anybody can drive right up to the fence, jump over that shit, like there ain't that much private property. Yeah, bro, you jump over that shit. It's almost like. What do you think the insurances on an oceanfront property, given climate change and, you know, like the. What if you can even get insurance? That's what I'm saying, like the insurance, unless it's up on a cliff, which a lot of stuff in Malibu, no, Malibu's on the shore, I think. I mean, that's what I did. I think that's what I did. Yeah, so this I think looks relatively well protected, but. You can't protect against the ocean. You need insurance. Man, we need to shut our brocasses up, man. Act all ways. I think what happens when like you have this kind of money is that you don't, like you and I are having this conversation right now cause we think about monthlies. We're going like, how much am I spending a month? Oh shit, the taxes this, the maintenance is this, the fees of this, my, what is it a HO house of something. HOA is this, when you're worth billions of dollars, like that is a drop in the bucket. Like you don't even care about the little fucking $15,000 you're spending in insurance and this. Not even billions. Billion. Not even a billion. No, hundreds of millions. Not even hundreds of millions. Whatever Charlotte got. Only thing you care about is everybody being trustworthy and crossing the T's and dotting the I's. But to that point, like, you know, you'll see certain things and you might not even, you know, like, you might not even look at it. You know what I'm saying? There's a limited amount of beachfront property located around Los Angeles, California that has this level of luxury and privacy. This is, if you look at Malibu homes, they're actually like lunch boxes. They're usually stacked right up next to each other. If you're having an argument with your fucking brother, your neighbor's next door, hearing the argument. That stretch, like I'd be surprised if that's actually in Malibu. I wonder if that's actually further up the beach, but it doesn't matter. But that stretch right there is so unbelievably rare, especially for that area of Los Angeles, and you're within like an hour 45 minute drive from like downtown Los Angeles, like for real business shit. This is, to me, I mean, it's just so rare. When you're looking at buying treasure, you're looking for rarity, right? This is a piece of treasure. That's not even real estate. I'm not mad at it. It's like buying your antique. They got that private beach right here. It's Angwell. Angwell, and then have all their friends and family come. No, it's beautiful. I mean, I bet you there's not two other pieces of real estate in Malibu that look like that. No, it's beautiful. There might not be one other. There's probably none if it's the most expensive property. I'm sorry, not even look like it, like in terms of how the house is designed, but like actual physical property in Malibu. Because if you look at typical Malibu homes, like look at the one Kanye owned, it's a fucking railroad. It's like Fire Island. Literally, perfect example. Yeah, so. God bless, man. Yeah, yeah. You'd be looking at something like that and think that's so out of your realm of possibility and this might not be. But you got to think about what these people buy. Like they're not buying a home and thinking that money's going out the drain. They're buying something that's an asset. That's an appreciating asset, absolutely. So when our brokeasses are looking at a purchase like that, they're like, God damn, 200 down to drain. Because the most of the shit that people. Oh, I never thought that. I know, but I'm saying the average person is buying, looking at a purchase, they go, wow, that's 200 million that are gone. I just want to know what the house does. Taylor? Taylor? Ain't nobody buying 200 million dollar underground. Okay? Of course it is underground, but that's not why it's worth 200 million. Hey, why'd you buy it? Fuck you. Everybody's just, so we're down, guys. It's real it is, real it is. I'm verifying. The funny shit is they can't hear Taylor. They think we tripping. They ain't looking at us like, what the fuck? Tell her, tell her, why do you think it's worth 200? Tell her people, why do you think it's worth 200? I don't think this is why it's worth 200. All I'm saying is, I'm sure they have a secret underground. That's all I'm saying. So if you were going to buy the apartment or the home, and they were like, this is 200 million dollars, and... I want to see what the secret highways are, yeah. That's where you find the value for sure. Why not just buy a secret highway? Why not just build an underground bunker, Taylor, instead of spending 200 million dollars on it? I'm sure that one has it already. That's all I'm saying. I think if it did, it would have told us in the, you know what, it does. But it's a secret. It does, it does. They shouldn't tell us. It goes right to the ocean, too. So they can go down into the underground thing and walk out into the water. They can go out into the water a half a million feet from what I was heard. So if something never happens, the carters will be tucked away under the Pacific Ocean. And that's what I expect from it. So it is what it is. Let me be great. Go ahead. She may let you be great. You didn't buy the house. No, because I know. Let me be great. Taylor, we love you. What up there? What a fucking idiot. Verified Twitter accounts share fake, this is crazy. Verified Twitter accounts share fake image of explosion near Pentagon causing confusion. A fake image purporting to show an explosion near the Pentagon was shared by multiple verified Twitter accounts on Monday. Causing confusion and leading to a brief dip in the stock market. Local officials later confirmed no son's incident had occurred, but y'all want fucking AI. Why? Y'all think y'all can handle AI. Why? Y'all think y'all can handle fucking AI. Y'all can't handle fake tweets and fake photographs. That's only the beginning of what's to come, people. Well, what's the end of what's to come? Civilization. Something bad gonna happen. This is the, we've been waiting on the Orson Welles, war to world type shit to happen. This is gonna be a guaranteed. It's gonna be a catastrophic event that's not even fucking real, that everybody's gonna lose their fucking minds for. Government officials aren't gonna know what to do. I don't know if it's gonna be, hey, we just heard this world leader say they got a nuclear bomb headed towards us right now. You got 25, how long you take nuclear weapons to get here, Chris? 25 minutes, 30 minutes? 25, 30 minutes to fucking react. What do you do? Got to verify it's real for us. You do, if you're a world leader, do you have to sit around and be like, why do we know it's real? Verify it's real. Who we get on the phone? Whatever. Before you fucking press the button back? Yeah, you have to do that, yeah. Do you have time? We don't have time. You have to do it. What if you aren't even on speaking terms with the country already? You still have to do it. Well, that's what they get paid the big bucks for, dude. Do they? They don't get paid big bucks at all. They don't. Elected officials? Well, they find ways to get their money. I don't know, man. I just know that this shit is gonna be fucked up. This is the beginning of so much fucked up shit. A dip in the stock market happened. This bullshit is affecting the world in real ways, and we've seen nothing yet. So here's where, go, go, go, go. You think it's gonna lead to the end of humanity? Well, I don't think that the people who have created this shit think that. Nah, but you just said it. Yeah, I've been saying this before I heard Elon Musk. I think that's his common sense, because I know humans can't handle this shit. We talked about something earlier, and we didn't say mutually assured description, it was just like how humans can't help themselves. Humans, we cannot help but touch a hot stove. How confident, how confidently do you believe that? What? What, willing to put another wager on that one? Alex, what does it matter? You fucking idiot, my God. I'm just saying. That was very tailor-like, Alex. Nah, I'm just saying. Don't hit me, I'm just like, I can't handle this shit. I'll tailor-cord it straight on out. I'm gonna bet you that the end of the world happened. So right before the world ended, yeah, you got it up like that. You gotta do that. No, no. Okay, I gotta cash it or you bet? This is what I would say. This is where AI becomes tricky, ready? Mm-hmm. There are current, okay. When AI is also relying on AI. In other words, there are stock portfolios that are managed by mathematical computations that are seeing fluctuations in the market and then making knee-jerk trades without human beings justifying or allowing or acknowledging those trades. They're just making those trades in real time. And I heard you've been doing a good job, too. Of course, I've been doing great. Right, they're out competing humans or else we would just have humans. But if those things are reacting to fake AI news without being able to verify it, now you have AI that can be manipulated or AI reacting to AI. So because there's no human to interface here and be like, is this a real story? Should we trade based on this? Those trades will just go straight through. When they do go straight through, you'll see these dips and fluctuations in the market and that can be used to make money. For example, you could short a stock, release a fake story on AI, now a sudden stock drops, you make your sale or you, whatever it is, sell your short. And then you can make tons of money. I mean, this is almost like a bond. You could short an airline, create a fake airline disaster where three planes from a certain airline all manage to crash together. The stock will tank in 10 minutes. So you're short and you're out of it. You're shorted it and you're good. Now, of course- They was doing that with fucking game stopping all that shit on Reddit. Remember when they was doing that type of shit? On, what was that shit called? The bump stocks, I think it was called? But that was more of a reaction to hedge funds trying to squeeze out game stop. But I thought they were reporting fucked up stories. It was something they were doing on Reddit that was manipulating the stocks. Think of it- And making the stocks to drop crazy. Well, the opposite, it was building up the stock. Oh, it was building up the stock? Okay, okay, okay. And they were doing that to punish these hedge funds that were trying to short the stock in a position where the stock and the company itself would fail. So think of the hedge fund as the billion dollar corporation and think of Wall Street bets as like the union that's part of that corporation. The only equal and opposite reaction to a single billionaire who has all this power is tens of thousands of workers that can decide to not do it. So they fucked over those hedge funds that were trying to fuck over the company. It was a really beautiful thing that happened. Yeah. And so you don't think they'll develop AI that will be able to detect when there's AI generated news that comes out? I think they will. And I think in this interim period, it's gonna be how much- But just disasters have to happen before that. And he's right. So basically he's like, what we're gambling on right now is hopefully not a big enough disaster will happen before AI can calculate if the news story is fake and based on AI. And that's the fingers crossed. There's something else too. Ian, bro, I love you so over though. What? Master investor? Oh, don't do that to Ian. Come on, son. Come on, son. Ian. Stop, stop. It's over. Why, why, why? I'm gonna enjoy these good old days. Why? Ian, Ian. You hate shit. Tell them not to invest in AI. That's what I'm saying, Ian. No, for real. Ian, tell them not to invest in AI because AI is trying to take people like you out, okay? What do I need Ian for? Human intuition. What? No, not speaking about Ian because Ian's a very smart, intuitive brother. That's actually why Ian is Ian. Most humans don't have that anymore, Schultz. But what I'm saying is you could make the argument that his value would increase in a time where- He's very rare though. That's good. You want rarity. He's very rare. That's the $2 million home in Malibu. Most people that they have that will be monitoring this shit are gonna have to call 20 other people to figure out if this shit is fucked up. 100%. You know what I'm saying? 100%. And I don't think everybody's built for this, man. I just don't think we're, I don't think the average human, I don't even think somebody above average humans are built for AI. I really don't. I really don't. Not when you have the Elon Musk of the world and the other dude that created chat GPT telling us this shit is above us now, y'all. Like, I really think it's just a great opportunity where we're gonna have a bunch of new millionaires and billionaires just like during COVID because people are going to figure out ways to utilize AI to get rich and to bill generate. I mean- Because if the AI takes up, this is another thing I was thinking about. And I think we talked about this, but if AI gets rid of all the jobs, let's say AI replaces 300 million jobs. How America is gonna get money? Universal basic income? No, I think that the other jobs will pop up. Like what? AI is replacing everything from McDonald's workers to financial advisors, the paralegals. I mean, this is not the first time an industry has been wiped out. Not like this, this is different. I know, I know, I know, but people used to get around on horseback. Now they get around in cars. Like the people that worked on those horses, their kids had to transfer it to other positions. Maybe they had to work on cars. You know, like there's definitely different things that people can do that are gonna be, you know, in cahoots with AI. I hear everything y'all saying, but this is different. Like this is like, and I actually- Has AI done anything good besides make like, biggie sing- That shit was fire. Yeah, like- That was the first AI song I heard that was fire. That was cool. The Mini Men shit with Biggie doing the hook and Tupac rapping Mini Men. The most fire one was Frank Sinatra doing fire. That one was crazy. Fell off a little bit when it got to the Skeet Skeet motherfucker. That line was great. But the beginning part of- Oh, Skeet Skeet, god damn. I liked the beginning, man. When he was like, how does that little John get low gold? And he's like, there's a swag drips down my balls. That shit was fire. There we go. That shit was fire. That's the AI has provided us so far. Yep. Well- Shall we do some asking idiots? Yeah. That's what they do. They rock us to sleep with entertainment. Hmm. And while we busy stinging Frank Sinatra, the sweat drips down my balls. The world is going to shit. There you go. Give him bread and circus. That's a great opportunity for anybody paying attention. For what? How though? How though? So, all right, let's say- It's wiping out 300 million jobs in legend. So let's say my industry, for example, I have a studio. We make- Wait, look. We- Look, look, look, watch what it does. So, you get the AI doesn't just know what to do. Someone still has to tell. See, you're not thinking- This shit is- Now it doesn't- But look- Give it a minute. How? You're not gonna get this out. Yeah, I know. Yeah. But you do realize when the guy stepped down from Google, you know the reason he stepped down, right? Wasn't just to warn people. You know what the reason was. What? He knows a danger, the potential danger that can come with it. The shit is evolving at such a rapid pace. Yeah. They're not gonna need you, Alex. I get that. By the end of the year, we're not gonna know what AI could potentially do. I get that, but people still have to figure it out. People still have to figure out how to use it. So, like, right now, I'm utilizing it to make my business more efficient. So, like, now I'm telling people that I have that they cut clips and stuff like that and be like, hey, you need to get on this, utilize how to make your job more efficient and now you can cut more clips and make more money and we are more productive. What about when the AI stops listening to you and does what it wants to do? I see, but now you're doing all this. That's what the CEO with chat GPT is saying. That's what the dude who stepped down from Google is saying. That's what Elon Musk is saying. That's why they're saying pump the brakes on this shit. I'm sure there's, and that's what you just said with the stock thing. How do we know that all those people that are saying that are just trying to give themselves time to develop their own AI? Bang. How do we not know? This is what Elon's doing. Elon is working on his own AI. There's, yeah, there's other things that, other companies are working on their AI and what they want is everybody to slow the fuck down because open AI is so far ahead of everybody. Google tried to drop theirs. It kind of flopped. There are some issues. I think Microsoft tried to drop theirs. It flopped. There are some issues. So they're all like, we need to put the clamps on this AI thing because they don't have their version of it just yet. Yeah, I'll just say what y'all want. I love the optimism but I'm with Ice Cube. I'm suing anybody who motherfucking manipulates my world. As you should. Ask an idiot. Because when that Andrew Shultz stand up special comes out. As long as I'm getting paid. And it's AI Shultz. As long as I'm getting paid. You know what I'm saying? You're gonna feel it differently. What do we got? Ask an idiot. Yeah, I don't wanna go. Ask an idiot. I loathe you all. This is for Shala. Being from the South, have you ever heard of the Airwax test before you get some? Listen young man, or a young woman, stop playing with me. Okay? I'm the one that told y'all about the motherfucking Airwax test. All right? I know you might be 20, so you know you knew here. So you was 10 when we was out, out, out. When we was outside, outside. Okay, you was 10. So you're probably a new brilliant idiots listener. I appreciate you. But I'm the one who bought the Airwax test main screen. What, Taylor? Keep telling him, Mike. No, Taylor. What did you say? What? You're putting your finger in the girl's ear. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly how it happens, too. But you're trying to seduce her that way. You have weird ways to seduce her. Next question. Seducing a girl's dick in an ear. Chris Robinson, 34. Philly is a wild, plain boy. With the success? And here is a place. Taylor, with the success that he's had at Marvel, do y'all think James Gunn will make DC cool again? Shala. Is that my guy, Chris? Is that Chris, Chris? No. Is that Chris who used to work at Marvel? I don't know if that's Chris he's the one. Sleuth the Chris, if that is. That's my guy. Will he make DC cool again? Yeah, if the movies are good. Like, I mean, listen, everything goes in cycles, right? Like Marvel had a decade-long run of dominance. You know what I mean? Some people are questioning Marvel right now. So if DC comes out and they start somewhere, maybe the flash is the new start. If they start with the flash, we might be looking at the flash 10 years from now the way we looked at Iron Man 10, 11 years ago. You know what I'm saying? You never know. Like it's just literally about the product. Nothing is historically whack. DC is not whack by any means, just that the DC movie universe has not been good. The DC comics are cool. They're decent. I mean, some people will say more than cool. The DC cartoons are fire. I like the DC movies that are about the bad guys. The Harley Quinn and the Joker and shit like that. So yeah, I mean, DC can be cool. It's just all about the product at the end of the day. I don't have anything like, I'm not against DC. It's just the shit hasn't been good. Yeah, once it's good. What is it? Victories heal all wounds. Yeah. What's your retirement look like for y'all and around what milestone question mark? That's from HOH underscore SE. What does retirement look like for y'all? I mean, I was always told retirement's not an age. It's an income. I don't believe that. I used to think that when I heard it because it sounds good, but that's not true. Because if that was the case, it'd be plenty of billionaires who would have hung it up already. You know what I'm saying? I think as long as you love what it is you do and you have a drive to do what it is you do. My purpose is different though. My drive is I literally like putting people in position. That's what I like. I like being the exact, that's what I like. I don't know what everybody else trying to do. I don't know, maybe everybody else trying to stick in front of the cameras and the microphone for a long time. I like seeing that next person do what it is they do. I like being responsible for stuff like that. You know what I mean? That's what I like. And so for me, if retirement, retirement probably would look like just doing that, like sitting around getting my clearance able and all. You know? I think that's good. Yeah, I think for me, if it's like actual retirement, retirement, like there's gonna be a point in my life where, like right now I'm really happy when I'm working constantly and I have a lot of things to do and my mind is focused on these goals that I'm trying to achieve. And I would really like a part of my life to be dedicated towards finding joy in the opposite and doing nothing and enjoying a beautiful day and not feeling like I have to accomplish things to feel good about myself, like to just be able to fully kind of let go and relax and enjoy the things I have around me. You know, my family, my friends, you know, children, all the things that, so that would be it. That is a goal at a certain point in my life. And obviously I wanna get the financial security first so I can do that. But that is definitely a goal in retirement. Let me ask you this. We can end on this, because this is what I was thinking about this, right? You're a stand-up comedian. I'm a media personality, you know, or whatever, right? And it's like, you still would probably wanna do stand-up if you felt like there were things that nobody else was saying. Yeah. If you were looking at the field. Yeah. And you're like, damn, there's nobody else saying this thing. Like even if you went, you found other people and poured into them, they still not saying this thing. I think that's what probably would keep you going. Because I know for me as a radio personality, it's like I look around the field and it's like, damn man, I feel like everybody doing what I was doing 10 years ago. So it's like, whack now. And then you look at me like, did I look like that? Did I sound like that? You know what I mean? Yeah. So it's like when you see everybody doing the same shit, it's like, all right, so let's figure out what's next. I agree with you. You know what I mean? Yeah, like being at the forefront is really important. You know, I see it obviously with you and with me as well. It's like, how can we be doing something that nobody else is doing? And part of being at the forefront is understanding that there are gonna be other people that are influenced by you. And that's beautiful. You want to share the things that you kind of create with other people and you hope that they have success with them, but at the same time, what makes you a trailblazer is by wanting to do something different than everybody else. So you just gotta keep on doing different things and that's the cool, fun motivation. How can you take it to the next level? Yeah, cause I pay attention to everything. Even if I may not acknowledge everything, but I pay attention to a lot of things and I constantly hear people reference Breakfast Club or reference brilliant idiots as their template to a lot of things. And I'll be like, yeah, but you're doing our old shit and you're really not doing it to the highest level because there's a difference in talking about people. It's a difference between talking about people and talking to people. I think that's something people forget, right? You can go pull up interviews and conversations with me talking to people and telling them those things I would say when they weren't around. Yeah, it's easy to talk about. It's easy to set up a podcast in your basement or at your friend's house or whatever and talk about people. But the real conversations and real understanding happens when you talk to people. But I've always said I'm a curious person, right? That's why you know, even with the shock, Jack label cool, but I'm a curious person. You know what I'm saying? I'm a curious person. A lot of things that I say come through curiosity. I want to know why this person is like that or why did they do this or what made them say this? Blah, blah, blah. So it might come with jokes and whatever else. But when I'm talking to that person, I'm gonna say it to them. You know what I mean? And I think that's why people would never really had a problem coming to have those conversations with me because they realized this dude ain't just slandering, performing, whatever, whatever. The people I have done that to haven't had conversations with me. You understand what I'm saying? Think about that. The people I've actually, when I'm in performative mode and I'm just saying shit, those people haven't had conversations with me. But the curious ones, I'm actually expressing curiosity. Those people have come and sat down. So I will just say, I just feel like it's a difference between talking about people and talking to them. Everybody's talking about people now. That shit ain't impressive. I would say this though, is that I think creatively, especially when you're in your adolescence, you need a North Star. You need someone that you look up to and something you admire. And I'm sure you had somebody that you're like, oh, I love how they're doing it. It doesn't mean that you have to do it exactly like them. But their authenticity is what inspires your creativity and makes you wanna be authentic. So we have to accept it. We are that for people. We might be that for them in podcasting. You might be that for them in media. I might be that for them in standup. And that's awesome. And that's an honor. And they hopefully will continue to curate things and then find their own lane. But in the beginning, you just need to know that there's someone who looks at the world kinda like you do, even though they're way better than you. And then just following that because it gives you some comfort. I remember seeing Patrice O'Neill and then being like, holy shit, there it is. There's the best version of standup. And it just gave me hope that I wasn't crazy. I had an idea of standup I wanted to do despite it doing poorly some nights or good in other nights. But then seeing it done at the highest level, I was like, okay, this is good. This is it. It can be done, et cetera. So yeah. That's so interesting, man. Because the difference between like, you said you saw that in Patrice. But imagine if you would have got to see the whole totality of Patrice. I know. Like we've seen like the whole totality of a Dave or the whole totality of a Howard Stern. You know what I mean? Or even these young NBA players, they've seen the whole totality of a Braun. So it's like, why not look at the best version of that person? Don't get me wrong, we all gotta go through whatever we gotta go through. But why if you've seen somebody for 15 years, 20 years, whatever it is, why get the worst parts of them? I think you look at the parts that serve what you need in that moment. So it's like, sometimes that is the best. Like there's a kid out there who's like, fuck I didn't even know that I could be dealing with mental health issues. And I read this guy's book and like, really helped me understand myself. And it's really helped me. That's like, that's probably what you would argue is one of the best parts of you. To me, that's the best version, to you. But there's another young kid that loves bustin' balls. That loves sniffing those seats. Real talk. And he doesn't know that he has anxiety about keeping things in. So he just has to get things out. And he sees somebody else do it and get rewarded for it. And it's hilarious. And it's like, and all of a sudden starts going, oh shit, I'm not a weirdo. There are other successful people that are like me. I got my North Star right now. And then maybe he will, 20 years later, like you get to a point in his career where he's like, oh shit, I gotta work on some of these things. There's a reason why I was so compulsive. No, they won't. Only you could do that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm telling y'all, young stupid motherfuckin' others. I'm telling all you young stupid motherfuckers who are watching this right now, if you do what I was doing 12 years ago, you are not going to get out. You are not. They not letting y'all do make those kind of mistakes no more. You're gonna be stuck on YouTube. They're owning your YouTube page. God bless YouTube. YouTube is the goal. That's where we want to be. Word is born. Nothing wrong with YouTube. Nothing wrong with YouTube, but it ain't, you know, if you want to do more, you're limiting yourself. So that question about retiring, you said that the main thing you look forward to now is like the executive role, putting people on and watching the next ones come up. So I'm curious, why do you still do what you're doing now, like the media side? I love it. I still gotta drive for it. And I feel like everybody's doing the same thing. So it's like, yo, let me show, let me show, let me show, let me, the way y'all studied whatever first however many, I've been doing radio 25 years, that first half of what y'all studied, let me show y'all what it looks like when a person grows and evolves, especially in fucking hip hop. I said this on Vlad TV the other day. It's like, yo, we put ourselves in these boxes. And you know, I look at it from, I watch it from learning. I learned it from watching rappers. You got the rapper who came in the game, talking that gangster shit, talking that hood shit, talking that thug shit, never stopped doing that. Eventually they hit that glass ceiling. You look up and you think it's, you think, you know, you can go farther, but you hit that glass ceiling. But then there's Jay-Z, who constantly grows and evolves with every album. You know, he does an album, he's talking about therapy, fatherhood, you know, trying to be a good man, his wife. Nas, rapping about brunch on fucking Sundays, making some of the best music of his career. You know what I mean? On top of all the great business investments and everything that he makes now, like he's been a part of two billion dollar acquisitions. He's been investing in two things that have been sold for over a billion dollars. Like I'm looking at those guys and I'm realizing, like I said, look at the whole totality of a person. I still love what it is that I do. And I look forward, especially with Breakfast Club, to helping whoever we put in that third throne, being able to assist him in taking the fuck off. Even more than that person probably already has taken the fuck off. That's the type of shit I like. I look forward with Black Privilege Publishing, putting out people's books, helping people tell their stories. Same thing with SBA productions, putting out audio scripted content that eventually turns to television and movies and documentaries. Same thing with my production company, See the God World. Same thing with Black Effect Podcast Network. Like that's what I like to do. I like watching motherfuckers take off. That's what's fun to me. But people who bring something different to the marketplace. Cause right now I feel like everybody doing the same thing. And that's the shock-jock thing. And I don't see how that shit is sustainable. If everybody's doing it. If everybody's doing it. You know what I mean? I just don't see it. Okay, that's it. As always, if you think we're smart, you think we're intelligent, you think we're brilliant, you're absolutely right. But if you think we're just a couple of idiots who don't know shit, you're right too. It's the brilliant idiots podcast. Thank you for listening.