 That's nothing I want to get to because like okay, so one thing I hate seeing is Say a white first world feminist who's a female get up and say I'm fighting for women And it's like you are a woman You're fighting for your own self-interest. You can claim to be fighting for someone else's self-interest But at the end of the day it is definitely your own self-interest as well Yes, so don't lie to me and tell me you're fighting for someone you can't even name Just this doesn't make you say I want this then we're having an honest conversation And I can say well, I don't need to have that and I can tell you why because you want to take something from me You don't have right to have or whatever it is, you know, but then then we're having an honest conversation But until we can get and this is this is I'm gonna write a thing about bourgeois morality Because I've started to really despise bourgeois morality. I'm not sure what bourgeois morality is. It's kind of a It's it's a it's a complex social construct. Yes, the best very little relation to reality right now Morality. Yes. Yeah, morality reality. It's very true You know when a terrorist attack happens in France and then you get people in England putting French flags Yes, you can go through the profile and you can see they don't know a single French person No, not one person in France has seen this. So why did they do that? Well, what offends me more is when people after for example, Charlie Hebdo put up Yes, we Charlie Hebdo right and and but they wouldn't put up the cartoon Yeah, so my view is I'm all for being Charlie Hebdo, but then show the cartoons Oh, yeah, right have big posters of the cartoons way flags of the cartoons Put it up on your Facebook profile Put it up on your on your website Then you have the right to call yourselves. Yes, we yeah, Charlie Hebdo But if you're saying that and then you're saying but you know, they maybe went over a little bit too far And we don't want to fail Muslims and we don't want to do this Then you're you're not worthy of being called just we so that really Drives me nuts. If you say I am X Live up to the X. Well, that's that's exactly what I'm saying about border morality morality because what it is It's a it's a fiction. It's a it's a pretension that they you know Cuz like when no French person sees your French flag, why did you put it up? Yes, you put it up so your friends can see I guess you care I guess this is what they what people call virtue signaling. That's exactly what it is Rousseau actually like Marx's kind of like stolen the concept of the bourgeoisie from you so it's a real shame because we're so really defined it in like social terms Yeah, and I've been looking into this really deeply recently because it's there's something I found a thread and I know that if I keep pulling it I'm one day going to be really offending the middle class, which is fine I like a friend. Well, again, I mean my my view and my view is you got to be careful Accepting Marxist terms over those terms. There's no such as the middle class. There's me and you and individuals And so I often say I don't care about the poor. I don't care about the middle class I don't care about the rich what I care about is productive individuals whether they have opportunities in life to advance the fullest potential That's right And you know what if you are if you are if you're a wife beating drunk poor person, I don't care about you But if you're a white beating drunk rich person, I don't care about you either It's not where you are in the socioeconomic whatever. It's it's who are you as an individual? Are you a good person or bad person is also relates to this? Anticolectivism, I mean, why are we lumping people in to these tribes in these groups when they're completely different people? What I care about is virtue what I care about is goodness is good people and what they believe in and what kind of lives they live Now that that's a really that's a great point to bring up actually because one one thing that people I am completely Aristotelian in this. I think virtue is done by action Yes, so I don't even care what you really believe if what you say what you say Exactly what you say because if you're not living up to and this this is why I hate the bourgeois morality because like with the example of French flags, okay, nothing's changed You've you've helped not one person in France You've not prevented another terrorist attack you've not you've not even you know You've not even made you know shown sympathy someone. Yeah, it's all fiction It's all pretense through your action You have done nothing and you have no claim to be a better person than anyone else because really what you're doing is kind of Trying to grab on to a someone else's Yes, you know, you're trying to you're trying to steal some of that glory. Yeah, I mean you and this is right I mean I meant often called this kind of the second-hander principle. It's the idea that that you're getting Your values you're getting you get from other people So it's cool to post the French flag so you put it up not because you believe in anything not because it really Represent your views in any substantial way, but because that's the thing to do and it's completely second-handed You're getting it from your friends your society from what you think other people will value and it's all about projecting to other people And and and again Rand is all about what is really good for me. Yeah, really good for me It's sometimes that'll be the same as what's other people. Sometimes it'll be completely different and it's about being independent and being independent is not being counter to other people because you know so like the hippies who who You know who with you know, you wear torn jeans because everybody else wears ordinary jeans and everybody now wears toast jeans But that's just being a collectivist just in reverse. You're doing the opposite. No, what do I really want to wear? What do I think I look good in or what do I think is so being truly independent is really thinking through What is good for me independent of what society thinks independent what my friends think independent of what they'll think of me Yeah, yeah, this is great actually because this this and I keep bringing back to the bottom of morality I really think this is it's it's like a blob that sits on top of society, right? And Rousseau would have called you a savage, you know, because he's saying because what you're describing there is living within yourself Well, yes, but you see his definition of living within yourself and my definition of living within yourself is completely different Well, he would say his definition of living within yourself is basically pure emotion It's it's it's it's an emotion. You know, you're running around nature naked and having you know And participating in in sexual activity because you have an urge to do so, right? It's it's really primitive in a sense of man before in some ways It's man before he became self-conscious It's man qua animal and that's what Rousseau views as the ideal and I think that's incredibly instructive I think was one of the bad guys in history. So to me It's it's it's again reason. It's it's figuring out. It's using my own mind and my own rationality To figure out what a value so yeah, and at the end of the day one of the reasons I you know since I love the middle class and the bourgeois if you will is because these are people who've actually done that what they Don't acknowledge it. They don't understand it But to be middle-class means you've taken your life seriously to some extent you've worked hard You've made you've made a certain standard of living you've you've achieved something in your life Not not the level of versity jobs in that but but something in your life You've you've you've applied yourself and it to me It's tragic then that then then get they get again squished by this blob of second-hand to this Collectivism and and and just self negation what they're doing is really destroying what it is that made them good in the first Place so totally agree. I mean this is this is what I mean My I wasn't I wasn't I wasn't trying to I know yeah Because I agree we're so certainly has its problems But he had some great observations and like I think the key is trying to get people to live within themselves to get so Look, it doesn't matter what that person thinks of your shirt. It just doesn't matter Yes, what do you think of your shirt? Yes living within yourself? I think what do you think? Think is is the key and and and I think one of the problems we have as a society is We've we've become in this particularly true of kids on campuses today. Oh, yeah We've become enamored by emotions. So what I love emotions. I mean, I'm a passionate guy and You experience life through your emotions and ideally your emotions are integrated with your thinking so that they're consistent But sometimes they deviate and the question is what's important and what's important is cognition What's important is thinking because ultimately emotions are consequences of past thinking and sometimes a mistaken thinking So for example, right? You fall in love with somebody Based on I think shared values and shared whatever then you learn new facts about the person. What happens your emotions change? Yeah, so your emotions change because you've integrated those thinking is it oh, they're not the kind of person I thought they were sometimes often actually what happens is your emotions actually lag your thinking So you have come to the conclusion this person is not as good as I thought But it's hard to get away because you're still emotionally connected But the emotions ultimately will catch up with you so Emotions are consequence of thinking good or bad because they're consequence of subconscious integrations and We get enamored by our emotions, but at young people today in schools are trained to emote They're trained to feel when you put six-year-olds down and you ask them what they think of transgender people They don't know what sex is they don't know what gender is they don't know what life is They don't know anything about anything right six-year-olds. It's all they can do is emote based on stuff that they've heard And you're validating that you're validating the idea that what's really valuable now put aside to gender Ask them what they think about politics what they think about anything they just don't know the whole purpose of being six is to learn You know until you're about 13 14 15 You're not capable your front of cortex is not developed enough to actually think about anything So what we're doing to what we're doing today with these kids is we're letting them do whatever the hell they want Which means whatever their emotions dictate and we're saying the emotions are valid and and and whatever the emotion is and We're celebrating emotionalism. So when these kids get to college and somebody says something offensive to them They get offended then I can understand them going this is the end of my world You can't do this because that's what they mean trained to do instead of what education should be about is training the mind Yeah, training us to think take training us to think You know Really think through problems. This is why every kid should learn math, you know kids say well, what do I need calculus? I'll never use it in life. You'll use it in the sense that calculus teaches you how to be a disciplined thinker That the Actual activity of calculus you'll never do in your life, but it's training you to do something really really really important But we now denigrate all that we don't think any of that is important critical thinking is what school is for and well It should be yes. Yes. Now we're socializing kids Yeah, it's about socialization and emotional training and then colleges now become Catering to that so now when they go to college, they don't learn to think either So we're getting young adults who've never been actually trained to think and we caught you know They've been called snowflakes because because it's an expression of their emotion. Yeah It's really interesting as well like I can never understand like I really enjoy stoicism I really enjoyed I mean like a lot of the time it went too far Yeah, you know they're being tortured and you meant to take responsibility being tortured, you know It goes too fast. Yes, but I like the underlying principles like wherever possible You take responsibility for what happens to you because then you will know, you know, you know why that happened You know what decisions you made and you are the one who has to deal with it It makes you stronger. It makes you tough. It makes you it makes you unable to be offended, you know And it seems to be inculcating weakness. I mean absolutely I mean if somebody says something to me it can mean it says something to you like communism whatever I mean, they're really two options. They're either right or they're wrong, right? If they're right That's let's assume they're wrong. Well, let's start with their right Right, let's assume it wasn't a communist. Let's assume it's somebody, right? And they come to me and they say you aren't you're wrong about this This is what it's really like and if it turns out they're right. I should thank them. Yes, right? If they're wrong, why should I care? It's their problem that they're wrong Not my problem that they're wrong So I don't get offended by people even you know people calling me names and everything else because they're wrong It's their problem. Their legs are screwed up because they're wrong I believe that if you're right it enhances life. So it's not relevant to me Either way, right? So a whole attitude towards knowledge is if somebody says something that's that's critical of what I'm saying But he's right Cool. I just learned something new. How cool is that and if it's wrong? It's their problem again It's about as you said about taking responsibility for yourself. You're not responsible for other people's thinking So if somebody else is wrong or some life responsibility, I'm not going to be offended by it and and and learning from your mistakes And and that makes you a better person. It makes you better. I think I therefore better human being more capable of living