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We could talk about Madden now and wake up today All we talked about was all I heard was about old Madden new Madden wet Madden errors better with Madden errors worse All this that's all I heard on Twitter, right and for me. I really don't care I really I don't have time to talk about that. I really don't I think every error is his own and that's honestly Could be a topic for his own show, you know But we have so much to get to and so much to talk about within this, you know two hours or whatever that we definitely need the To talk about that rather than, you know, whatever Madden is better where Madden is, you know was more viable What was the harder than playing what was harder to be more dominant? That's not a topic I really want to get into if you asked me my opinion It is harder now to be dominant than it was when people weren't giving away a million dollars of Madden and you know Hundreds of people weren't trying and online wasn't as accessible for everybody. I think it's harder now Just my opinion. I really don't want to get into it But as you see my topics up here my topics are pretty much just What they are is just a group. That's my title for each group. We're gonna go over each group And talk about each group individually as a group group a group B group C group D What happened in the group what transpired in the group with what do we like about the group and what happened? What can we take away from those four players and move on whether it's in the tournament whether it's in Madden in general whatever it may be so those are my titles for the four groups of course we got bugs who We had to boom a little bit and then Who was also in his group was Kiv or wasn't Kiv It was joke Volta racks and paving who were all in the group with bugs And they all they all took care of bugs got boogie out of there Also them the mowing three group that's Kiv mode journey in mills a lot to talk about in that group That group was very entertaining That's group know a cleft little man is scheming that's you know Elmo is the king of the fighters man low man just continues to have good performances You know, we just can no longer. No, I know it for a lot of us. It's hard to really not ignore a little man But you know, I mean at the end of the day, he's having good performance at the good performance so it's definitely you can't ignore him that much anymore really but uh Well, where else we had and what is the last group? Obviously was the best group of the week Which was Henry Wesley the croft and rage and that's a lot I want to talk about in that group You know, it's just so much and anything you guys want to bring up man All you got to do is put it down in the podcast. All you got to do is put it in the chat There it is. Elmo is playing good. Elmo is locked in Elmo's you know, he's playing as well as anybody honestly So for me That said, let's talk about the first group. Let's talk about that. Let's talk about the bugs group Let's talk about I mean The first takeaway that I can take away from the buzz group is that you know joke had, you know, no quarterback vote had no quarterback and The human joystick and I'll be honest if you would have told me going into this group chat If you would have told me going into bugs and and and paving and Volterax going into their group That bugs would have the best run defense in this group. I would have told you he would have went 3-0. I promise you I would have told you that as Historically decent as books has been on offense If you would have told me Chad, you would tell you guys if you would have told me bugs Would have the best run defense in the group between joke vote of having Boogs would have the best run views. This is the best run defense. We have ever seen books have and any man tournament And so for me It was disappointing that he wasn't able to score any points Also turned the ball over. I believe most of the points that were scored against him was when he was on offense You know, so his run defense was really good. His run defense was effective And you know, so that that's that's definitely Disappointing as a books fan that he was not able to get out of there joke once again looks very solid to start a tournament And later we'll go down and we'll see You know where he might stumble up where he might fail with if he has, you know, one of the tougher opponents coming up now He did lose the game versus pavin on a run commit I've actually hit the right person on the run commit unlike me No, it's tough to pass against a run commit shot of my man more than with the church prime and my man BX with the Twitch prime. Thank you guys Yeah, books had really good defense books was really locked in he just could not He could not score, you know, and that's that's a little rough. Yeah, so pavin definitely beat joke on the run commit Can I change this I don't want to change a little something right here. I guess not. Oh well Now So I said bugs did not make it out. He went on three But I said if he was able to score even verse volt couldn't do nothing Joe couldn't really do nothing on a one his first touchdown was pretty much off of interception Volt scored on bugs on pick sixes Pavin and bugs had a decent game for our member But you know poppin was able to come out on top because books was not able to score honestly And if you were to I would never guess that I would say booze would go ahead and find the way To score and our man is about scoring. I think it really is about scoring this year, man Like I and honestly is fisting with sub hear me out on this my overall take is that I don't think the run is good right now You know what I'm saying? I don't think the run is good. I really don't I think joke. I think vote I think mills. I think Noah no and little man. I think they're gonna have a hard time Scoring points. I really do going forward. You know, it's just the problem with them is that they will not make mistakes They will not turn the ball over. I don't think the run is good. So Let's say so both have real good run defense at any time books has real good run defense You got a question man. Is this run the his run is the run really good And also as I should have started a thing like we can agree on this right now chat is that row oh The production everything from EA side from EA standpoint meant everything this week was amazing Like there was a few technical difficulties I feel like everything that happened they breeze through everything very like effortlessly like I think it was very good And I think they really need to go ahead and have a lot of credit for what they've done Through this quarantine sending all these people all this equipment helping them set it up Helping them run these games and put on a decent production. I think it's been really good And I just don't start with that, you know, but like I said group a between joke and vote and pop I mean you got to look at joke Even pop and beat them. So man, it's tough Who do you guys think looked the most impressive out of that group when we look about joke? It has to be having or joke because vote it was crazy because that was the first time vote has looked so dominant in Clubs, he's looked so dominant in Salary cap this year He's looked so dominant But that was the first time that he played just a pure runner and boy. Oh boy his run defense looks really really bad You know, so I Compared to everybody else's run defense. Yes, compared to everybody else's run defense I think vote 1,000 percent had the worst run defense, right? Like the worst run defense And and that's definitely not going to be you know the key to success to keep him going forward His run defense was bad So he has to tighten that up if he wants to beat Mills if he wants to be joke, you know And even Drini like he has everybody else in that group that that moved on on that side of the bracket He run the kid or paving their passers But man, it's gonna be tough if he if he's gonna tighten up that run defense and joke look good Um, I said he lost though. He lost Pavane and for me. It's uh It's tough. I mean can pop like I said and we watch what pop and play Right watch him play and he looks really good, right as far as bunch offense He looked as good as anybody can look in this tournament, right? And even though he looked that good we can all agree that he looked really good like probably looked exceptional He's still even if you make two or three bad plays a game as a passer they can lose you the game in this Madden and That is why the deck is stacked against passers because you can be you can be lights out For 95 98% of the game and then all of a sudden boom They make one mistake one mistake. They're out of the game. They donated points to the runner They just they're back is up against the wall. So that's why it's so tough to look at a passer Is he gonna win four straight games, you know playing that well? You really cannot make a mistake and you can't and it and it hurts you that much, you know And so you can play 98% perfect. You make one mistake now Like I said the one mistake the one mistake that probably made was that lurk from joke Which was a little questionable. I mean I probably could bring that up for you guys You guys want to take a look remember that lurk That lurk was kind of crazy chat. I don't know if you guys remember it That was the one mistake that probably makes if that play doesn't happen I don't think the game is even close to being that. Oh, there we go. I Don't think the game is that close to even being that competitive Because I mean and and this is something that joke and little man and all them 1000% are Practicing how do I beat this run defense? You know, how do I beat this through three five that 818 is running out here? You know, it's actually a play I believe right here You know and it's gonna be tough going forward and I know they're practicing and they're finding a way to beat it But I believe this is the lurk right here. Then this play honestly was pretty stupid You know and if this play doesn't happen because not only is a turnover when That's just wild Not only is it a turnover in in close fringe field or range. It's a pick six It's a pick six. So if this plate doesn't happen, who knows what happened You know pop pop Ivan goes up three nothing or he goes up If he goes up seven nothing man, that changes the whole game against a runner Yeah, I don't think yeah, this was For him to pick this off man. That's a little wild chat. We agree. This is a little wild Anything is a low ball. No, just I Think I think nine times out of ten. That's not an interception. There's no way that's a pick It does say low pass. He did low pass it. Okay, and And I don't know why you would low pass this you guys tell me I Think as far as I'm concerned like with post flag. I believe this is a corner out He's gonna catch this even if he gets blurred But yeah, I still I still think nine times out ten He doesn't get this interception and it's a complete a pass, but good luck. Nonetheless And that's what I mean about you make one bad pass and just Seven nothing to a runner to a person that really can't score. That's just crazy really I mean really can't score on offense, but they sort of donate three donate seven When you're you know on the verge of getting three that's the stuff That's gonna kill passers going forward in this tournament. Can they play mistake free for four straight games is Pretty much the big question, you know, so that was a great game. That was honestly as the thing about man is that The thing about I was a corner out But the thing about it was the thing about it Can they play perfect for those four games, you know And the thing about I was about to say the thing about those games in group a after seeing group B Group C and D you forget about how good those games were and that game was was exceptional really and that's like I said Joke is one of the better defensive players and for pop and put a run on like that Definitely a little good game. So he's definitely one of the passers that we kind of root for I know you guys are much like me once this game gets to this this Point of the years like we're kind of rooting against the runners I'm rooting against the guys with no quarterback. It's just so like every tournament has been one with no quarterback Let's be honest like every quarterback any every tournament has been one with no quarterback and We kind of want one for the passers. So for me pop is definitely somebody that I'm you know rooting for the rest of the way You know, yeah, he definitely he definitely played good He's playing good. Just gotta really just can't make those mistakes, you know, but that those group a I mean That's a vault vaults not gonna win this tournament with the run defense. He put on out there. He's just not I Don't care how many Bo Jackson clips because like as far as run defense His run defense looked like like like mine or yours. So, you know, that's that's what it looked like From vault so he's not gonna put on with this tournament with that type of run defense So and I said pop and joke, but we won one a one beat oh they both look really good I said bugs. I mean the one thing was talk about bugs. He put so much cap into defense, right? I said not a lot of capital offense no tight end at all no running back And you look back at it like maybe he should have ran show you why flex He should have ran something where he could generate some more points because the way his run defense was playing I mean, I think if he was able to generate 10 points first joke and volt he probably wins those games, honestly, so Now I want to say this I want to say this group was the worst of the tournament You know, I don't think this was the worst group of the tournament. I Don't know. I couldn't really tell you Bunch and another thing with bunch that Wesley and I believe I haven't have is a decent tight end You know what I'm saying a decent tight end Not good. I see it. I mean the better you can get the better But somebody that can at least get four or five yards on that out route You I know you guys like put them on out routes though Even a drag even a you know a hitch even a even though the will row out of verticals a streak every once in a while Like that you got to have it. I think that's more important than the wide receiver. I do think books had decent wide receivers. It's just Yeah, I yeah his team I've never I I still think he could have won with it. I just really just I think that's the second tournament He kind of got brain farted on offense. You know, I think he just Wasn't really creative and I think the the draft champions time as well He was just dagger or die like dagger the same shit every play, you know, and I think that really held him back Wasn't as creative as he normally is, you know, he wasn't as sharp. I think his team. I think he could have won He could have won some games in this group All he had to do is be voted to end score some points and he would have won So it's not like he was far off. It's not like he got blown out. So You know, just this guy execute a little bit better. Honestly, you know Yeah, I don't think he should the bed. I don't think there was was that bad. I just he just needed to be able to I Mean I didn't mind power specialist because you got to be able to beat everybody in But anyway, not enough about that. We talked about his team last week. That said It's not the arrow is the Indian man If you pull out a couple different plays and just mix up his routes and really put some things out there Bunches tough to play a bunch is tough to play. It is it is tough to play I feel like it's tough to play on mutt head-to-head, you know with these kids blitz and everybody are playing 1 4 6 I The underneath routes are really not effective and people are kind of hip to why receiver post every play so You know, it was tough for him really but I'm saying like I told you if you would have told me Bulls would have had the run defense that he had then shoot I would I would have told you guys he was definitely making it out of the group But I was group a I mean Like I said joking power and being great spots vote really needs to that run defense not gonna win him this tournament It's not gonna be journey like vote is not gonna be journey. And that's probably the Man at the matchups in the next round are just like stupid good Like just I will talk about the preview for the next round. It's tough because we're stuck I Say I just see I would say I think books has been pretty good on defense the whole year I think books hasn't been good on offense this year But as I say that who do you guys think has been good? Consistently on offense this whole year You know like seriously, I've seen kiv be kiv who I think is like the best offensive player Been pretty much been shitty the whole year, you know, I don't think anybody can consistently said I've been good on offense You know No, I mean Henry Henry lost to a runner in the clubs No, I don't I really don't think anybody I don't think anybody is really that good Wesley You were terrible on offense this tournament and we'll get to that. I'm glad you're here Because I was team Wesley man. I might have a voodoo like user. I might have to get off the Wesley chain Uh Yeah, but that volt doesn't count runners don't count. No, seriously, even Henry's it's just like good I don't think anybody is great on offense. I don't think anybody is great on offense. Really. I really don't But uh, like I said, I mean as far as the room battle I Mean joke wasn't joke has like the old furniture man joke had joke needs like like he need a furniture upgrade from Do you guys ever look do you guys what shit like joke needs a furniture upgrade? vote having eyes on his door was demon shit Like I like vote having eyes on his door, bro That was insane all dark with eyes on his door like bro I don't want no problem vote is you know votes are evil genius for real the all-black room with the eyes Volts are evil genius, bro. Yes. What is the king demon? Joke got the old-ass. You know, he really had the baits Motel set up All right, so who's everyone probably we already talked about probably with the belt He put the belt on the belt on the bed now I don't know if you know if he sparked that and everybody else did it or is it was something production told He might have set the tone for everybody else to put their belt out there, you know me myself I'd be like, you know, I don't really want to do that cuz he did that shit, man I don't need but probably concept the tone for the belt on the bed. He set the tone You know saying but but yeah, I mean as far as best I probably probably pretty much wins that but vote is a close second Bugs had a bookshelf. Bugs would have a bookshelf if you told me one thing books would have in his background It would be a bookshelf really Okay, get out there you go probably that's right. And when you group a it looks like your idea. So you hip little man's closet Volt had eye decals like like a demon eyes or some shit on his door looking at the bed Like what the yo like yo, so he like So volt goes the better night with these demon eyes looking at him like giving him the power of a demon every night Why he sleeps telling you Vault is crazy, bro Yeah, Kim was a big disappointment, but we'll get to that. I said talking about the rooms like joke at the Bates Motel vault But let's talk about group B group a guy said joking problem really look good Vote guys up tighten up their run defense going forward. Let's talk about mowing three Group B serious mode Kiv adreni and mills honestly This was I this was entertaining all One because I won a guy tip your hat to both mowing and journey Both had rosters to run and pass a little bit. So you got a kind of you know that that's Honestly, that's I I think that's I Think that I close the eye strong eye those offenses are annoying as hell to play bro I really do and I don't know why They have I guess they have had success this year. What do you guys think like I think those offenses are really tough to play against? I really do But the biggest thing with those they're not as high-powered Not that bunch is high-powered now, but bunch can at least get you a 20 30 our play if you get wire see repose popping or something like that But I do feel like those offenses are Really tough to play against, you know, I Like what I was gonna say so for me Uh Haircut ratings. Yeah, but then mills vs. Kiv Honestly mills vs. Kiv was madden when we look back at madden 20 Right, you know how you look back at man Like that was the the slain out year or that was the spec catch year or that was the juke glitch year We can look back in Madden 20 and watch the Kiv vs. Mills game and that will epitomize What madden 20 is you talk about one of this is one of the best offensive players ever Literally just people can blitz the whole damn team at them and it just is a pain in the ass to play against really So that was kind of a tough a tough defense Or a tough game to watch because mills literally could not get a yard You know and if you get if you get into those situations, right? So we get into those situations as Kiv as a passer, you know and there's a bunch of passers in here You get into those situations man Kiv would have been better off as soon as he got into field range kicking a field on first down You know and that's that's that's what's crazy when you think about it like bro mills cannot get a yard I just need to get points on the board and I can't risk taking a sack or throwing an interception Just kick the ball first down because if Kiv would have did that he wins that game 100 times out of 100. It's crazy. Yeah, his run defense was really good. So looking forward To the rest of the tournament you see I don't know You see Kiv has vote or journey and Pivoting mills and and one thing that we haven't said enough this year Do a kid kid between the man classic mansion all the tournaments kid has had some of the best defense all year You know saying No mills does not need a comedy job ever Yeah mills for my defense the whole tournament with negative yards them saying West being yeah, that that we won't get to that bro. We want with listen We are far away from from the last group. All right the West being group. All right Was I should have titled this but what's about this one? Like I said Moe went on three It really for me looked like Moe really didn't I Feel like he really just wasn't as prepared as everybody else Obviously Moe is not the pastor that kid is really not even a pastor that journey is really um So Moe and honestly one thing as I take away from Moe's game is that Moe had the two edge threat elites, right? He's got these two defensive ends Now I will tell you guys this from experience in Madden tournaments when building a team or even draft champions, right? I remember draft champions the Madden challenge Madden 17 I got team of the year Aaron Donald and it's like team of the year clowny like When you put faith in the defensive line It only disappoints you like you will only be disappointed if you rely on the defensive line and part of me and we talk about um Moe is one of the best defensive players. He still is always will be one of the best defensive players But when you rely on when you kind of have that crutch that you lean on that's a defensive line You know edge threat elites two of them when you have that thought in your mind that you don't need to play the same type of defense Because you have those guys. I think it kind of let down Moe's defense a little bit in certain past situations His defense was not that not that good in that tournament at all You know and and there was a couple plays where he kind of relied on it like I'm gonna get some They want to fight I remember one specifically he came out three three five wide and just rush three or 35 normal Just rush three people and said let me get some fight, you know So I think a lot of times when you rely on the d-line the d-line only disappoints you man for really really does Yeah, but I just I just really I Really don't I really don't like I mean honestly, they're great They do good But when you kind I feel like for somebody like Moe who's a fantastic defensive player to kind of have those and kind of lean On them a little bit too much I think it hurt his defense a little bit but I say you couldn't score you do interceptions You don't interceptions in this manner you don't interceptions. You're fucking cooked chat You guys filming it. Yo, if you don't picks in this madden you're cooked. That's how I feel, you know Just cooked Just cooked Well anyway as we take away from that group kid journey of mills I mean give if kid can score points, bro He wins this how I feel about kids the kids offense Kim's run defense showed me this if he scores points. He wins this tournament. That's that's how I feel You know, I truly feel that way about the way kid played And if you guys remember like I said, I kid has to be in the early running for for best defense of the year Period. I want a million percent. I Would million percent feel like bro kid does has not got enough credit for his defense this whole year Bro, do you remember DC kid? I swear he went out there and do four picks a game in DC and Literally people he could barely and no and like he was in a battle every game But he literally turned the ball over four times a game in DC like It's unreal like like he just needs to score points And so I feel if kid was a runner this year. He might have won every belt Seriously, I the fact he's passing is hurting him one million percent this year You know, so he just got to put it together and he's got to be the favorite best defense by far so far in the tournament I think you know But so that's pretty much how how I feel about going forward with with that's their group Drenny I You know why Drenny pisses me off chat and you hear me this about Drenny and I as a foot like and I take fruit I take you know to heart that you guys are Football fans like super football fans, right? I'm a football fan I'm a die-hard Eagles fan like die hard and I and I always think that like, you know Most of you guys that watch man, you guys are die-hard fans and in fact put your team in a chat Are you guys chat? Are you guys? What is your team you root for man? And part of me is like I Respect, you know the kid that on the Seahawks, you know, I respect having with the Raiders, you know cleft with the Bucks You know and it even Wesley with the even Wesley with the Falcons, you know So for me when I look at when I look at what you call it When I go out there and I actually look at Drenny literally have no team even joke You know, I leave joke kind of tying himself with the Browns He's got the Titans jersey for spot me. So that's always super respectable resting piece to spot me like But to see these guys that literally don't watch when don't have a team bro That shit is and now Drenny's in the Dolphins jerseys like bro, how many jerseys have we seen Drenny playing? Seriously, we've seen him in the Eagles jerseys Broncos the Jaguars the Cowboys like it's like Chat right am I the only one that like bro, how can you root for a man that just doesn't like football? You know, it's like what like come on man. Like I just it's just ugly Yeah, like bro, I'm I'm like a super football fan like it for me. It's like it's kind of ugly So as I look at journey on his list right now with the Dolphins local next to him Jenny's not Jenny's not winning this tournament as the Dolphins, bro He's gonna have to make an executive decision. So I'm a Patriots fan with that twitch prime and my man lackey with the twitch prime Yeah, he's just a slut bouncing from team to team like and this is Journey don't even have a team and this is and this is what I think about journey. How do they watch football? How do the people like that watch football and like enjoy it like we do, right? I Just don't I don't see I just don't I don't know man For me and for me as frustrating and I can't I think journey has to make an executive I don't know what happened to his Broncos. He said he was a Broncos fan, you know When he first started journey was a Broncos guy, man, I think Hear me on this chat. I don't like journey as the file as the Dolphins I don't like him. I don't think he wins. He can't win this tournament as the Dolphins Just not a team you go to really so that's and then journey mills Mills I think just don't have enough offense. Honestly, I feel like mills this whole year Has been able to mix in a couple passes with his offense And I don't know why he went no quarter back, but we'll see how it works You know, I think he's been one of the few that he actually at one point when he won the club. I believe He had to escape artists and ran every play. So for me, that was like, okay, you got a nice little team You know, you know, I really don't think he's gonna be able to score enough points But his I said his defense is really good Yeah So coming out of that group, I mean kid like I said kid get an offense together He's gonna make he's want to make super noise mills if he get an offense together journey I can't get I can't I can't roof it. I can't support journey with these Dolphins jerseys chat I don't know how you guys feel You know, I can't support it Well, let's talk about group C. This is the little man group with the king of the fighters little man top 10 all time Little man, let's be honest, man. I like At some point you gotta give him some credit. He definitely bagged Little man pop Clef, yeah, he pop Clef just lucky runs, bro You know, we heard what's crazy about this group with little man, dude Is that we heard these lucky runs bro lucky runs. Oh before we do this. I do want to talk about something Hold on This is an error. I do want to talk about something that happened in the mills and journey game chat The mills and journey game and you guys tell me this role. I Want I want to go to this real quick cuz cuz this is something that came up that I did not talk about I did not bring up road and that is this play right here, you know Let's let's listen in and tell me guys fairer foul chat Being run by Drini and tie welcome to the joy of ultimate team You got the same player on each side and yet they're completely different ratings Yeah, that's that's the beauty of ultimate team the beauty here is salary cap building your team around your strengths Drini, you know very balanced, but has a stacked defense and his run defense has been unstoppable Most your outside and he's got some room can he get away from Calvin Johnson? Megatron doesn't even look like he's running hard out there and he ran down Raheem Mostard the first big run of mills in this game Finally the play mills needed he cooks it up when he needed a little stretch to the outside No one out there on the outside for Drini and mills gets a big first down. He's in business Drini not happy with what happened there tie what you're hearing It sounds like Drini can't pick a play his controller is frozen So he has a glitch where he couldn't even run over with his user is what he sounds like he's saying and now Is not letting him pick a play on defense controller stuck. So he looks like he's trying to Bro, this is insane. Oh my god, y'all gotta see mills face, bro. This shit is funny. Oh My god chat this shit is funny wait till y'all see this Wait till y'all see mills face when he come out when he come out the huddle to see journey in like in stock in some in some random defense Watch those face watch his face This bad news bears This is competitive madden mills mills has the advantage right now, and he's not able to capitalize Drini is in a computer pick defense mills recognized it went with the hurry up, but he couldn't take advantage of it Well, that's funny. Welcome to online play these guys play at home That's fine. I've ever seen stock CPU plays get picked Still get stopped You know users in the back I'm getting told that he's saying pause the game training. What are you doing? That's what I was thinking And he's not able to capitalize He's not in the right defense. He doesn't have anything set up this bad news bears is Franco Harris with a carry Hey look mills This is competitive madden mills mills has the advantage right now, and he's not able to capitalize Drini is in a computer pick defense mills recognized it went with the hurry up But he couldn't take advantage of it. So I said is that fair or foul? That's what I had Is that fair or foul chat? How do we feel about that? Is that fair or foul? Would you guys know huddle? What would you guys do? You know fair are we going fair is fair the ruling right there is fair the ruling you guys want to go with well, I know Man, he got to know something's up. No, he got to know something. No, he's not stupid How many how many man games you played? Somebody's not just gonna come out there and ran a defense No, he knew something was up stopping with the heat in no Yeah, oh, we got a poll. We got a poll. We got a poll. It's a live poll. It's a live poll Live poll only here on the podcast you guys see live polls man live polls if you're not here Tuesday nights, man You are missing out. We're sitting at 41 to 19 on the pole Closing up 57 there it is 50 says 61 to 25. We're almost 70% say that's fair Normally they pause the game. I mean Honestly, I don't know if it was a battery thing. Do you guys think it was just a battery thing? As we're going one or two 75% of people say it was a fair move. I mean, honestly, I Really do feel like I Don't really know how it would go like how is something bad happened? How does something bad happen and then does the do you yell to the discord? Yo, yo We see 150 to 140 almost 80% of people say that was fair game to no huddle in that situation Um Yeah, I mean it was tough You know, if it's buried died, it says fault. Obviously if you're planning this you should be plugged in you should be plugged up I pretty much plug up everything I played let alone let alone MCS game Drenny should have yelled you think Drenny should have made more of a scene like yo, yo, my control is broken or something like that Possible could possibly be the situation really I really didn't know how the layout is You know, that's a bit scummy, but you know, I've seen scummy your things You know all I've seen scummy your things go down in these type of games. So like I said, I Would probably say I want to say fair, but you know, I'm gonna say it was the most the phallus thing ever, you know But I said It wasn't the control. Yeah, I don't know what happened there. I really don't I wish I could tell you guys I knew more but it was rough and mills one thousand percent knew something was wrong because one he didn't have a user and two He was in three four three over or whatever Yeah, and mills has to do something cuz he literally can't score. It's not like he's got a prolific offense, bro That was his opening, you know, like you have you sometimes you got to take you take your shot I'm surprised. He didn't know how to him again. Honestly Yeah, he honestly should have known how to begin But the only thing that hurt mills was that he didn't have most there in the game So he had to run with Franco Harris But shit Franco Harris against bad run defense might be better than most are against what he was seeing all day. Honestly, you know Well, let's talk about group C This is a little man get back to little man Shoot I said this one was the Noah no quarterback Little man no quarterback. So Clef had to play against two people with no quarterback lost to both of them So Clef who we all know is one of the great passers in the game lost to two people with no quarterback Little man won the no quarterback battle scheming Definitely had a different scheme the one thing with him is I mean he doesn't run enough You know, he had a little quarterback power out of Baltimore playbook and stuff like bro, like the pass is just not that good Can we agree on that offense in general is really not that good? Like I think that's like I think that is a a standard statement that we can agree on I don't know what offense is good, you know, I feel like offense just isn't good the difference between The difference between passing and running is that passers make mistakes and that's what scheming did honestly You know, so I really I really do think a Scheme in both scheming both in his final four run in the club championship and in his This tournament man, he's got to run the ball more whether it be the power whether it be the blast Whatever it may be he has to just do that a little bit more honestly, you know that's pretty much a How I feel about Bams performances throughout this whole year if he would have ran a little more Especially he was he lost the vote in the final four there And if he if he looked back said if he would have ran blast a little bit more Vault goes he could have beat vault that game because blast against vote was kind of popping them for five six Even ten yards of carry every time so scheming as much as as much as he likes being cute He likes being scheming he likes being that person man If you look back at it man, if you were stuck There's more basic run the ball and just play defense man He would have been a lot better often what he does forcing the ball and passing itself My man grizzly there he is man with the tier one. Thank you man Appreciate you You know Yeah, but as I look back at this man Like I said cleft lost to two people with no quarterback, you know clefts You know guys know our roof of cleft more than anybody so shoot But I mean lost a little man in a game where a little man was begging for free for lucky touchdowns Lost to know a bad. I mean when he played know what a game didn't mean too much I don't know if you know, you'd rather play Wesley then then at the time I don't even think they knew who they were gonna play So for me two and three seed doesn't mean too much Because I don't think there's a drop-off between Henry and Wesley and at the other side I don't think there's a drop-off between draining mills or you know paving and vote I feel like at this point you're gonna play a goon regardless You know what I'm saying just so when I feel like when vault or when Noah and cleft played There was really not too much to play for Um the group actually worked out because it was kind of over going into the last games which kind of sucked But overall you just got to talk about little man the Elmo song can little man win this tournament You know is does he have enough? Offense to win the tournament because he looked really good on defense I think for like everybody kind of look good on defense and does little man have enough chat Do any of you guys think little man can win? You know can anyone can little man win this whole tournament? You know what I'm saying like can little man win I feel like little man is a person that continues To have good performances, but I don't think anybody ever believes in little man You know, I don't think anybody ever believes that he's gonna win the tournament Like he can get final four or he can get fine in the finals He can make any run and he makes runs pretty much every tournament I don't think anybody really believes he can win the whole tournament, you know Yeah, I mean make me nice. He's just being real. You know, I just want one lucky touchdown You know, we might not have to play kid. That's what I'm saying one game at a time I I want to come on here and say somebody without a quarterbacks not winning But I have been wrong all year about that Yeah, I see you're right little man has been super prepared the whole year so I mean you got to give him some type of credit on that as we move on man. I mean that that's group group see Uh Nothing, I mean we didn't really like when cleft got popped by Noah even the game didn't mean nothing We didn't like the way that game went down chat. I'm gonna be honest We didn't like like the way that game went down. I it was rough It was a rough feeling. I know cleft wanted to get that win even though the game didn't meet enough I know cleft wanted to get that win you know Yeah, I mean even though there's really good run defense I really just feel like can you score 10 points on the runners really You know, that's what I'm saying chat Can you score on those guys with no quarterback because I don't think it's as powerful as it Honestly, I really don't think it's ever been high powered Like even vote. I don't think vote was amazing running the ball Noah lost two games in his group Like it's not like the run has been super powerful now with Ezekiel Elliott in the classic. It was op It was it was unreal. Yes. I wouldn't even want to talk about that But I for the rest of the year. I never thought the run was super duper. I don't want to say it's like High powered. It's just they're just praying for that one run And then that's all they need when their defense is that good really I would say it probably is the highest powered. Oh all year. Oh, yeah beast mode with the nasty streak. Oh, yeah, that I mean Yeah, that yeah, that was kind of that was kind of nasty streak was different. That was super different I would say I don't think the crosshairs I guess he's kind of balanced because he does run the ball a little bit with chris johnson I would say journey is probably the most balanced really Yeah, I would say journey is probably the most balanced You know The cross journey. Yeah, those I mean those those are the only two balanced people left though, right Decroft and journey are the only two people with the ability to run the ball and pass the ball Other than that, it's just all passing Or all running, you know, so there's two people left with the ability to do both. So Yeah, I think everybody's offense has been bagged at some point in this tournament Like it's not like like I said, we talked about I don't think anybody's offense is good. I mean, I really just don't Yeah, decroft definitely does look good. He does look good, but it will get and then you help me transition into this group here Group D with the dots. That's why I put a group D is for dots and honestly, uh, it was it was super fun to watch That being said between henry, uh Between henry, westley, uh rage and decroft, it was all really great games to watch really fun Uh in the whole time as I watch this tournament or as I watch This group I all I think about to myself is All these four great players are going to lose to somebody without a quarterback You know So we see all these routes all this coverage all these blitzes You know, nobody was really blitz eight people. Nobody was real heavy run Uh, and we watched those guys play and all I thought about was like they are going to lose to somebody without a quarterback You know, so it's kind of nuts to me, uh But I do want to talk about something uh that kind of it kind of Upset me a little bit. I know rage Was somebody we kind of we we kind of said was going to lose Um, right. That's how it was. We kind of all picked him to be out of the group, right It's kind of a player like how did he get their type of player? That's kind of was our attitude last week, right? Rage is 0 and 3 rage is out. Uh, and and you know, let me tell you this, uh That was that was pretty much our our Our conclusion to this tournament was rage wasn't going to make it no matter he played good, you know what I'm saying He played real good And at the end of the day he and he put out, um, where is it? He did put out this tweet and made me upset a little bit as a as a man fan As a person that you know And he said I deserve the disrespect I get now first of all because And this made me mad because One if we make if I make fun of you guys or I don't pick any of you guys Or you know, you're the consensus to go 0 and 3. It's just it's not necessarily that it's a knock on you You know, maybe you're up against, you know, bigger names and and let's always remember this about mad Well, you're always you're always picked off name through people don't know shit You know what I'm saying people in the community don't know shit people on twitter don't know nobody knows shit About you about how well you can play about, you know, how you played against this guy How you match up against this person how well you prepare they don't know anything Literally all they pick on is do they know this person's name? That is how everybody picks in these polls. That is how they picked in the polls part of it is that kind of how I pick You know, I'm not going if rage is in a group with skimbo kiv and ghost or skimbo kiv and journey I'm not going to pick rage. It's just it's simple and plain. You know what I'm saying like So you have to understand that that's not necessarily disrespect Also, man, you got to be at the end of the day if you make madden bowl You are one of the top 16 players of madden this year Nobody can take that away from you man. So that's accomplishment in its own right So at the end of the day all these people that are disrespecting you I doubt it was one of the other 15 people in the group, you know what I'm saying Those people that are in the same places you to top 16. Those aren't the people disrespecting you It's the people that are watching at home that want to say shit You know to try to make you feel bad because they're jealous of where you're at Myself included But we are still want to joke into jokes about you if you go out there and get popped like bugs or moe You are going to get laughed at that's part of the game But uh, never feel like you deserve disrespect for getting to this tournament to getting to this point Uh, for me that made me upset that someone could feel like they deserve to be disrespected You know and for me, uh, you should always be proud of yourself for the accomplishment of making it to madden bowl And to to being one of the top 16 players in madden 20 without a doubt, you know So for me, uh, I didn't like that and I felt like, you know I shouldn't be the one leading in charge of making somebody feeling like they're disrespected honestly you know You know, I'm saying so so for me, uh, that definitely, uh Definitely, I didn't really like I really didn't like that someone felt, uh That they deserve disrespect because that's that's not Y'all like as much as we joke, it's a huge accomplishment where rage did the sharing. He should be proud of himself, honestly No, for real. I really just I don't ever want y'all to think like just because I bust y'all balls that, you know, you didn't accomplish something Really But back on to group D henry Wesley the craft Rage who played good rage was down 14 nothing in the game and first of all rage's hoodie was fucking nuts you know Rage's hoodie was nuts. I don't know what it was. It was like the boy this people told me it was the boyfriend hoodie You know from victoria's secret you will get like the 5x hoodie cut the sleeves off Um, that hoodie was kind of nuts. He was drinking out of a a a red solo cup He was pepsi can then he went to red solo cup They definitely said, uh Wesley looked like a lesbian I'm not gonna say I agree but uh, I mean I'm not going to say I agree with that You know Because I I think that was a little rough But at the end of the day, I mean he did kind of have a little bit of I don't want to say lesbian type of vibes But the hair was a little wild, but you can't really get get upset As somebody because because their hair is wild because I mean bro It's quarantine chat You know what I mean? like It's nothing it's nothing we can really do about haircuts unless you're bald like me during quarantine right chat like like Wesley kind of might look like like, you know I mean, he was looking kind of wild Now a lesbian would I think y'all took it a little hard a little too far with the lesbian comment. I think that was a little bit Too wild, you know, I think I think we went a little bit too far with that, you know You know, I think that was a little bit too far too tough, you know I mean, he got he got a little bit of vibes, you know, like This is my question. What would Wesley's I mean, like I said, what what what's Wesley's name if Wesley was a lesbian, bro What what would his name be? I mean, I think I take him for a tina. I'm saying strong tina vibes What seem to Yeah, I really don't I really Karen a Karen. I don't know man Carrie You know, I don't Wesley it Wesley gotta go baldy, bro. He gotta go baldy. It has to happen Gotta go baldy Karen Susan Tina I'm going tina, bro Then my man Wesley bro. Yeah, this this my man west with the With this I know I might have to put this on the squid, bro Oh, we might have to really get rid of this. We had to get rid of the squid emo, bro Somebody put this Chris with a k. Yeah, this is definitely Chris with a k Chris would a k No, Chris would a k might be the number one dyke name of all time No, I need to put this on the squid body. Yo, put this squid emos in the chat Put I need to put this face on the squid body Chris would a k Taylor Yeah, it's like killing my man, bro. Like I said, I was on the Wesley train Definitely was on the west and like I said, we voted a rage Rage's hoodie was wild bro rage. First of all rage I'm gonna be real rage. You gotta come on home, bro Like I could this is how my hair was bro. It was how my not when I was 21 As he goes to the red solar all day me not even on the screen. Y'all can't see rage I need to get the full the full rage There it is Boom There he is boys The rage man Like oh my man rage hasn't cut the hair Since boy, yo, he was on quarantine before the rest of us were on quarantine Bro, he bro rage look ready for battle bro between the boyfriend hoodie And the heck bro rage bro Rage definitely don't give a fuck bro. He really don't He got a hoodie with no undershirt like just bro. This is nuts Rate bro. How your sideburns this long like bro. This is like this is seawool type of shit right here, bro This is seawool ask sideburns Like come on bro with the boyfriend hoodie Now this is really rage you gotta come on home, bro You got this is how my hair was when I was like 30 And saying where you had to make sure if it wasn't combed right you was looking bald You had to make sure it was combed perfectly You know saying This is seawool ask sideburns right here chat seawool ask Yeah hoodie the boyfriend hoodie with no undershirt Bro, this looks like a psychiatric ward hoodie like when you go to a psychiatric ward This is the clothes they put you in right here for real Hella perks Rage definitely like he buy he buy Hella pills Rage like he buy hella pills Pick hit my guy with the twitch prom. This is definitely a psychiatric hoodie There he is man Toked the guy that's in the chat Wow No I'm telling you guys man. Now listen, we're all men in here. I mean, hopefully there's a few women in here But listen, man, if you should start going bro, it's time to go Telling you my shit was to the point where if I didn't comb it perfectly You had I had bald spot everywhere It had to be combed perfectly and it only lasted an hour because at the hour it was it was over it was gg's Only lasted one hour The red cup I asked rage. He said they didn't let him use his wendy's cup Now tear me on this chat. So you go to wendy's right? This is this is another thing He said it was from his wendy's cup So you go to wendy's wendy's quality establishment You get the spicy nuggets, right? So you get spicy nuggets or you get the number six Which is the spicy chicken sandwich Always a w from wendy's the baconators a w from wendy's whatever your wendy's order is by the way side note when these Wendy's breakfast fire when these breakfast is fire. I don't know if y'all been there yet Wendy's breakfast is a big w telling you it's a big w It's a big w Anyway, so you go to wendy's right? So you go to one my wendy's doesn't make it out of the car I don't know how y'all eat fast food if I go get fast food by the time I get home I don't smash my nuggets and my fries by the time I get out of the car I don't know what I don't know. I feel like you're a fucking psycho if you get fast food. Don't eat it Walk in the house then take it out the bag. I think those people are psychos Like what are you doing in your life that you have time to drive home with the food sitting next to you And you're not eating some of it. Can I I'm be honest? That's all like you gotta finish the food before you get out the car How is that? I mean stop like seriously So y'all definitely sit there with the food so you wreck keep oh, thank you, sir And the food sits there for 10 to 15 minutes till you get home. Now you could live right down the street I've always lived close to establishments. I feel like that's key when picking a spot that you want to live in Gotta live close to establishments. You want to you know, you don't want to be skimbo skimbo lives It takes him an hour to get to tackle bell. You don't want to be there No, I'm just saying No, I don't really eat while I play like that. I don't really eat snacks or nothing like that Oh, I'm yeah, you gotta pick it listen A seat one put on this seat warmer to keep the food warm Bro, y'all are nuts No, y'all nuts. So anyway, okay Okay, so that's another topic. So you guys are are keeping the food till you get home Fucking weird, you know because now you now you just got it now You're spending and it probably takes you guys a half hour to eat McDonald's. Let me tell you that takes you a half hour now Okay, you got your bag at home What is do you like take things out of the bag and place them down or are you the type that because honestly if I do that I I knock the bag over and rip the bag so I kind of can use the bag as like a place mat So my food and that's normally if I'm at the restaurant, you know So my food isn't touching their table or anything Rip the bag open use it as like a napkin slash place place Place mat or do you guys take the food out of the bag and put it like here and there? Because then you could also dump your fries halfway out. You know something like that You know, I'm just saying I'm just trying to make sure we're on the same page with fast food as well as I continue to talk about Rage's cup because rage said his cup His cup was from Wendy's right So how long can your cup of juice or soda from Wendy's how long can that last? And can you ever transfer the Wendy's cup to another cup to drink it? That's all I'm asking Because because for him to be in the last game with the red solo cup We're talking six five six hours from when he went to Wendy's right it has to be So I feel like it transfers a little wild Yeah, I feel like you can't transfer transfer So Uber eats do you feel like rage when uber eats mid group play? Did he try that? Did he go for that? I feel like that's a little risky chat Do you think he had his parents run and get him some Wendy's or something along that lines? That could have been in the in the works But if you remember the red solo cup made an appearance in his second game So, you know, it's all possible. So Even getting food mid group play is kind of wild. I think that's kind of wild honestly, you know But We'll see These so move on the fuck up out of the chat for 10 minutes, bro. Think about whether or not you want to be here or not God damn But don't he don't add nothing quality like we all talking. He the only one that's mad Take a lap Right to take a we all Yeah We're all talking Geez a full move on. Let's talk about group D. What do you think they should have did on third down? God damn I do as we get to group D The best game of group D. Uh, obviously henry versus What's gonna call it de croft Now I want to point you to a specific play in this game here I do want to point you to a specific play as we go to this game right here Now, like I said, this was the best play of the tour the best game of the of said tournament Where we at where we at? Now My man j rock with the sub man, there it is. But I do want you guys to focus. I do want you guys To focus On henry here as I'm gonna block out this Block out. I want you guys to focus on henry after this play I want to focus. I want you guys to focus on this play. No, it's not this play As he just I mean, he's he's really up against it right now. Like and you're talking about he's down by three during his 16 Yeah, de croft is all right, man as we see a post is there's no post flag. Oh no there is And we lost that guy That dance will lose 100 times out of 100 this dance move bro This dance move loses 100 out of 100 100 out of 100 this dance move loses Yes, yes 100 out of 100 times This dance move loses Yes, you can't this this this this can't you can't win like this Now we'll tell you. Well, you know why I like de croft, man. You know why I like de croft, man Cuz I do I do it. I you know, I like the cry we laugh at this bro Yeah, that that that is 1000% worse than he could if you would have popped the perk Oh my god He might have won you could pop a perk and win but you can't do that dance That dance 1 million percent worse than anything I've ever done But you know, I like de croft. He blamed himself for this play He blamed himself now most of you cock suckers would be mad and sucks. Oh my gosh I just I was gonna win. I was gonna be the one seed. Oh my gosh Look mad and cheat me. Look how do y'all play this game mad and sucks bogey bogey bogey, right? That's what you guys would have said 1 million percent and rocks in the chat. There he is No, but like that ass But after this play After this play And and I I saw at the same time like If you watch de croft, he definitely could have did a little bit better right here. He kind of like Got behind him as we watch the dance again This is really got to be a pat in the dance It's got to be the double points like this is just this this has to be the sub alert Henry whenever you whenever you start streaming whenever this is the sub alert If you don't make this the sub alert, then we're done the right chat 1 million percent This is the sub alert Uh, uh, uh, uh four points and a phone He did four points and a phone any man that breaks out the phone. Look the phone. Look at the phone Yep, the phone. Yo four points and yo four points and a phone. That's the sub alert 1 million percent But de croft I said he took blame for that. He knew the game was rough Uh, he knew the game was rough and um He could have had a little bit better stick on that play But uh, nevertheless I guess Henry runs here. Yeah, this is smart and then just spike it Now here's like this is what this is what I this is the l for me Chat this is the l all the way around for me. It is a l for me chat because I thought after this run Right, the number one thing you do is spike Right because if you snow huddle spike right here, you might be a 15 You might be a 10 seconds. You can wait till you get down to three seconds Now, of course, de croft has a timeout But he would probably use that timeout to ice the kicker which he does anyway, right? So henry essentially could have No or spiked right here stated the line till three seconds Then snapped it to guarantee that this field goal was the last play of regulation Guaranteed it if he would have know if he would have spiked the ball not spiked Yeah, spiked the ball and third down right here, right? If he spikes the ball and third down Boom, but instead he goes to call the play and and then does this You know So that that that's the first part of the mistake Cash is the field goal. No problem Because you know, he really doesn't care. He really doesn't feel any pressure because he once you do that dance You don't feel any pressure and then he goes for the squibber The squid, I mean he didn't even like look how fast. Oh, no, I guess that might have been replay Like look how fast he calls this shit Like he had squibbed before it was on the screen I mean he had he had squibbed before it was on the screen Like it wasn't even a thought God, look at these white guys chasing them, bro That's rough Yeah Yeah, see karma gets you man. That's how I had and that's what they say man Madden giveth and it taketh away man and and the cross was hype I mean, it's hard not to root for the cross honestly, bro I feel like he I feel like he really grinds this shit out the game like As far as practicing and being together really You know what I'm saying chat. I feel like he really uh He really likes it and really puts a lot of work on the on the game really you know Yeah, he's a grinder and he definitely uh, cuz because you can tell like I remember I want to say madden 18 like I did a mutt video versus somebody right like mutt play like madden 18 I didn't know who the hell was but we had a good game, right? And uh, so Like probably a year ago somebody commented on the pick damn you played the cross before he before he got good And I look back it was him back. That was who I played him. But I did some youtube video with Uh, well against the game man, you could just see how much better he's gotten in two or three years It's just important working, you know, so it's hard not to root for him and the attitude that he has as far as yeah I got mossed. I got teabagged To tie the game up, but I could have did better You know, I could have had a little bit better user there And it was partially my fault why that happened and to have that type of attitude Is what's always want to lead to him continue to get better really for real You know, so for me I really think he has a good attitude and and he's really grounded So it's definitely uh easy to root for the craft You know, and that's just that's pretty much how I feel My man Kenny Johnson whispered me and said, what's up dub? I started streaming stuff. Could you help me get some followers? Follow Kenny Johnson, bro. Kenny Johnson, if you're still in here, bro, we'll shout you out right now you know So he's not in here Kenny Johnson, he's not in here. It's not part of the show Kenny's not part of the show. That's what I mean, man. You got to be part of community before you want the community to help you Just saying All right, p bro Just not real Didn't stick around Did not stick around for the show did not watch the show did not learn anything Go follow Kenny Johnson. Let me see how many followers my man Kenny Johnson got. What he got? What he working with? Then he's gone. He's not even a What is this? Unless you've got a time machine that content is unavailable Damn Kenny Johnson How can we tell people to follow you? You're not even like That's nuts. Shat. That's nuts. GGs, man. GGs. It was volt. Volt was Kenny Johnson I hope I get that sub money What the That's rough, bro He got about her man. Kenny moved the mixer Kenny moved the mixer, but like I said group D and at the end of the day man group D was awesome I think we all enjoyed those games. I think we all enjoyed how it went, you know, uh I think it was it was madden that's marketable madden that was popping Madden that was fun to watch, you know, and I really like I said, uh, Henry and D croft was a great game Rage and D croft was a great game Henry and and west autumn games Wesley and everybody was a good game. I really thought I really thought it was good You know, I really thought it was it was well done and executed really good My man noise right there with the two mumps. There he is Yeah, it was best group to watch But as we said that it's how the noise man. I appreciate you But I said as we said it was the best group to watch, right? But at the end of the day all those guys are going to lose to somebody with no quarterback Uh, no, it looked good. All right, and we'll talk about Noah But listen, I I don't have anything bad to say about Noah. Noah just continues to look solid on defense And I mean run wise. I think He's as good as anybody running the ball You know, I I think as far as like run stick and run vision I think he's second to none with that, you know, like something a little man I don't think a little man in joke or that are that good Running the ball. I really don't think they're that good of runners. You know what I'm saying? I feel like Noah's a better runner than them Yes, we definitely be showing them Yes, one from I mean, what do you want to one fumble by a runner? We've known all year That the running back doesn't fumble like that's something we're that's we're really not going to see You know going forward, but let's let's take a look at the bracket Because that's what we really I know that's what we really want to talk about Um, let's take a look at it. I gotta figure out how I can get This here this here. Can I put this over here? There we go. We'll do that. All right. Let's take a look at the bracket now And we can talk about it. I almost want to do polls for each of these games To pick these games really Do you guys want to do polls or you want to know who I like really that that's what I'll ask you guys Do you want to do polls or you want to know who I would pick because I mean I think polls could be pretty cool and see who the chat picks and then have the podcast official podcast You know saying I mean we can talk about both and then we can do polls Uh, really I gotta make this smart so I can work work my twitch and mine I gotta do this hold on Let's see if we can do this There we go Let's work with it like that Um Yeah, so the first game we got to talk about man mills and pop Let's talk about mills and pop and Who do you guys like? Um, who do you guys expect to be moving on from that one? Uh, I said Popping looks really good. Is he gonna have something? For that blitz, you know, I'm saying for that blitz is that something that he's going to be prepared to deal with I'll move this over here actually even more It's probably gonna be prepared because kiv. Honestly kiv did not look good against it, you know, and that's somebody he practices with or you know Is he gonna be more prepared than kiv was? We really thought kiv would be more prepared for that blitz and he'd be ready to go, you know, that's what kind of we thought But at the end of the day kiv did not look good against that blitz so What's our poll going with? Put the poll on three minutes, man All right, how do we get? All right, you can't put channel what What happened my poll Piven has hot rob master. Okay He runs against it brand brand what do you what do you mean? He runs against it? He doesn't have a running back You know That's rough, you know Oh league ops has some polls up Okay, let's see league ops polls. We'll see we'll take a look at the league ops polls What are we doing? So pavin is kind what what is this poll? Why do we get another poll? Bro, who was running the polls bro? What's going on right now chat? I honestly I I do feel like pavin can win this game. I'm gonna vote pavin. I'm gonna go pavin Um, I do feel like he can win this game. Um, I yeah, but Do you got kevin winsel is not his running back. He only runs when he needs short yardage He's not gonna run the whole game chat Like that's not and like oh my god No, damn pavin is flooding this one almost 150 to 20 chat really Did you guys not see what mills did to kiv? Did you not see what mills did the kiv one almost 200 to 20 90 percent of you guys Are going pavin over mills Yeah, yeah, but I mean all mills need is one one touchdown really All right, what pavin's in a better spot with hot route master. What is the biggest difference? With that as opposed to kiv. He can put more routes. He can maybe go pat sale type of route combo He's not going to do an angle route to the running back. He's not going to do an uh, uh What's sticking up route to the tight end that's not going to happen You know Okay, now that now the votes all sudden are going crazy mills wise. Okay He has a week to lab but but this what i'm saying scotch. You don't think kiv knew what mills was going to run Pavin does have vic. That's a w. He's got a faster release even though kiv had the gunslinger I don't think mills has to be perfect. I feel like pavin has to be perfect. That's the opposite You know All right, why did y'all put that in that's why y'all don't control the fucking polls That's why I do the polls. I don't know which one of you jackasses thought it was all i'm gonna put a poll up No, I control the polls so I can turn off that channel point shit God damn. That's what i'm saying. They don't turn that uh, dude How do we have 700 fucking vote we have 800 votes Guys just keep flooding the votes man 800 fucking votes. Good job, man Good job Good job. Great fucking work here at the needed podcast man. Great work boys. Good job. All right, so I'm gonna go ahead. I listen. I'm done with polls. I'm gonna make the next poll. All right We're not reading another i'm not looking at pavin versus mills again. That's not happening. I'm picking pavin That I feel like that's kind of a consensus And we want to move pavin up to the next to the next round man To face off a joke on that epic matchup that we saw in the group play So let's go on to vote versus journey I will make the poll if one of you assholes come through and make a poll you are banned and will lose your mod Question Now let's talk about drill and running. Obviously, this is a matchup of the club finals With that that run heard around the additional vote. Yeah, we don't do additional votes Duration we can go. All right. Let's go five minutes with the vote There we go vote versus journey go ahead vote away boys. All right No, my caps lock was on my cap my no my caps lock was on and I was like do I want to keep it But yeah, just keep going you have three underscores in your name But this is the rematch from the club finals. So we think about this like We think about this all the time like who can can journey stop vote I feel like journey has been in that three three five wide much like everybody else Is he going to be able to contain that human joystick bow? And then I'll be honest votes run defense was bad against joke worse run defense of the tournament So journey might have a field day running the ball if you're journey You're definitely watching what joke did to vault the runs that were successful for joke You're in oakland. I mean you had the hot route master if you need it Also, um, I know journey is going to go to that tight slots One thing journey likes to do out of tight slots more than most run the inside zone You know is And is a vote going to be able to stop the inside zone out of his 3 3 3 wide 3 3 5 normal Because we know if journey goes to tight slots vote is going to run 3 3 5 normal So is he able to shoot that inside zone? Also, if that's the case is journey able to motion block to get an extra block or to stop vote From shooting that inside zone. So one of the under under you know Under what are the not under What are the under talked about? Uh parts of this game is can vote stop journey's inside zone out of tight slots um Yeah, you had the fact during where vote is mentally after the muck lost to w. That's a good point You know Yes, he did breeze. He did do that a couple times for sure and gave him a little bit of trouble. So We'll see We shall see What's going to happen? I feel like that's a that's a undervalued part of the game um So we'll see But vote's not going to win with the run defense. He put out there with joke He's just not that run defense would look like my defense in weekend league. It was not not good No matter how many I mean obviously score five touchdowns and journey was in the 3 3 5 wide run defense looks pretty good If it wasn't for his controller fucking up. He wanted to give up many points to mills um journey beat mo fairly easily I said the one thing that killed journey against kiv. I thought journey was playing out of Out of character because we saw kiv struggle so much against the blitz. I thought journey played out of character Try to blitz him a little bit too much You know So you you were getting out of pocket you weren't you weren't contributing. You were just complaining Like it's a tuesday night. Everybody's chilling and you're a complainer. Nobody likes a complainer The the worst thing in life to be is a complainer You know That's just how I feel You know, so we shall see what is the poll running at right now? We're 100 the 49 be all like journey I'll be honest. I'm gonna go ahead and pick journey. I'm gonna move journey on in this list right here I think we all I think we all kind of like that pick Whoa Didn't want to do that So we want to move journey up Right here bang Journey kiv I mean that that that quarterfinals right there is pretty nuts, honestly That quarterfinals. Oh, that quarterfinals is pretty nuts joke pavin kiv journey. That that's a tough little Final eight right there. Well, let's move on to the next the net the bottom The bottom group I'm saying I'm gonna vote journey on my little poll right here Let's go to the bottom group now as we talk about henry and cleff. I mean this is Black madden had to play each other the first round. I guess mills is still here Black madden versus black madden um Black mad versus black mad. I mean, I'm gonna go cleff pretty much this whole way through unless you guys Unless we have like a 75 vote against cleff Uh, what do you guys think I think one? I think cleff got to play a little bit better offense He played good the first half versus little man I feel like every game versus when someone goes on three I think the scheming games can kind of get thrown out But cleff lost to the other two people like he lost to know what he lost the little man So I feel like he has to tighten up on offense. I feel like we can kind of say that about everybody in the tournament They have to tighten up a little bit on offense You know Oh because the I mean, why why would they switch? Jerny said that they Jerny said in the chat if they switch If they win they switch. I really don't know how that works, but Jerny is a lower seed If both three seeds were out of the 12 the 12 and the threes are messing me up So Jerny is the three seed Or poppins the threes. All right. I'm like Yeah, poppin is the three seed, huh? Okay Jesus so I gotta do this all over god damn it Jerny and poppin are three seeds Mills was hired in Jerny Jerny beat Mills This is fucking crazy God damn it Let me go find this this graph. I can just do this. Oh, here we go chat. There we go. There we go So poppin and Jerny would flip in this situation That's kind of that's kind. I like the other way. Boo. I like the I like the matchups the other way I like the matchups the other way there chat be honest with you So we would have poppin going down here Boo. I'm kind of I'm kind of disappointed honestly. I like the matchups the other way I like kid Jerny. I like joke poppin I feel like we're kind of getting I kind of get we're getting like runners versus runners and passers versus passers That's tough Boom. So that's what do we look like we're good like that It's fun, but they'll knock each other out So it makes it tougher for them to win beat runners like what? You know what I'm saying? So y'all looking at what game looks fun to watch. I'm looking at who's want to win the tournament, you know I really have kiv beat Jerny and then poppin beat jokin two runners be out, you know Yeah, I don't know why this was but I will move on to that but all right Let's go down here. So clef is the three seed and westley is the three seed so both of them win Now we wrote Henry versus clef as we get back to this one So let's get back to that as I do the poll. Let's do a poll Henry clef real quick See my caps lock is still on but fuck it Y'all gonna do it like that Two minute poll So who you guys like? Henry versus clef with my caps lock on Honestly, like I said clef got tight up on offense I believe Henry did we see Henry play and get played westley? So that'll get that honestly would give If you're looking at Henry, if you're in clef's perspective, you can watch him play westley Whatever he did in group D against westley pretty much going to be what he does against bunch whereas cleft didn't play against bunch at all So it's going to be hard Henry doesn't really have a lot of film to watch what clef would do defensively against bunch Not that it's going to be anything spectacular But I feel like clef does have a little advantage in that that he saw Henry play another bunch guy in westley in his groups recently So think as far as what he's scouting and things like that. I think clef has a little bit of advantage I like Henry's uh, I like what he's doing with the conductor seems like he looked pretty good I pretty much will always pick uh clef for the most part So it's tough for me to do that, you know, so but like I said a passer versus a passer Uh, it's you can't take out runners if the passes aren't playing them So and then a day a member of black madden is going to lose and a member of the passing community is going to lose here So that's really the roughest part You know Bunch being Noah now westley and Noah have played so much this year. Wow. We are like 50 50 right here 50 50 right here clef and Henry. This is the probably the toughest vote ever On the newly podcast 67 to 69. I'm voting for clef right now. Fuck you 68 to 69 that's actually insane now. It's tied up 69 to 69 clef takes a one point lead This is actually insane That this vote is this tight You know actually tough And clef out of nowhere the last second win right there 74 to 73 in the chat. That's actually that's actually as tight as possible pause Clef by one. That's a huge win. That that that that that's tough So move clef on. I don't think there's a I don't think there'll be another vote That would be that close than that one But clef we clef we don't even know where clef is gonna wind up because Oh, that should not work. Oh my god Because because if Wesley wins then clef goes down to play decroft Haha, I'm learning chat. You see me So let's talk about Noah versus Wesley, man Honestly, they've played a lot. I don't know if I I'll be honest. I don't think As much as he's played him. I don't know if Wesley's comfortable against Noah I I'm still team Wesley. I am I think I he didn't play as well as I thought he would in the groups I don't know. I thought he would do pretty well in this group. I really did Um, well, who do we like chat? That's what I'm saying. Like do we go with the passer over to runner here? Gotta go runner. I feel like that's the safe bet to go runner, you know, like Now these guys have played a lot all year. If you guys remember they played I want to say the final four of dc or at least the final eight You know, so for me They have played a lot sort of as the poll is up. They have a lot of familiarity. Uh, it's We don't see Noah losing but I can't reform. That's fair. Um, that's definitely The final four dc. They've played a lot of money games as someone that played 2k with Wesley and was always like Pro Wesley, do you want to hop on if you want to play 2k right now? He would always say I'm playing a no, I'm playing a money game against Noah. So these guys have played honestly these guys have played Probably 50 times at least. Uh, so Uh, the lot of familiarity with each other. This is I honestly most of the time they've played has been regs And most of the time or dc when they play in the final four But So from this is salad cap So Wesley can pick his offense can pick his plays can pick his players Can pick his abilities. So it's definitely going to be a little bit different I do think that's a good point. So I think Noah's energy is likable He is 1 million percent. The only thing that you don't like about Noah is that he can't pass You know, and and that kind of this year kind of naturally makes us hate those people, you know Over under 24 points, that's a good, that's a good number I don't know. I I would say over that You know, I don't know. Yeah, Noah has good energy. He's got a good story He's been become a great player, especially defensively. Oh, I feel like every I feel like all these guys are good defensively Who do you got? Who would you? I mean volt probably got to be Probably the weakest defensive player left Right My man skeena. What's up, man? Clef is the weakest the clef. Yeah, I mean clef defense has not looked good um You're right Noah wins this one 67 76 volts to 37 So we're going to move Noah up. So essentially if Noah wins Then clef plays little man again and Noah plays the cross, right? Since both three C's didn't win And y'all got Noah over my man. Well, see I I'm I'm rooting for Wesley that one I can't say you guys are wrong. I can't say that but I'm team Wesley Uh, team Tina or whatever she called him team Tina team Tina I'm a missus. Oh, all right remind me after the show. I got you sugar. It's kind of a like bad time Yeah, it's kind of me. I'm kind of in the middle of this But I got you Team west being I am wet. I do hope Wesley wins, but y'all pick no we can move no on Let's get to the quarterfinals. Let's get to these. Let's get talking quarterfinals Uh, as we see the top of these joke versus journey. Let's put that poll up Joke versus journey. Obviously. This was a final four matchup In the madden club championship and was journey one because honestly joke could not stop the running net Now remember now if you guys remember joke was in blast. He was in new Orleans He had wide receivers. He had abilities on his quarterback and his wide receivers But this time he doesn't so and and one thing I remember for being there and hearing joke talk was that he had shitty linebackers in his three four, so that contributed the journey actually ran all over him and The part of the reason was because joke had cap on offense this time around joke has no cap on offense Well, he does but not a quarterback. So not exponential cap on offense So he's going to have the linebackers. He's going to have the db. He's going to have the d-line to stop the run so Uh, joke doesn't have the x-factor. My man says a joke doesn't have the x-factor We know journey does kind of have that x-factor journey has that clutch gene so to say right journey had you guys trust journey In the clutch right like in a big game. We trust journey. I mean, I feel that way I feel like he has the it factor He's and part of it. I feel like journey doesn't know that he's in a big part and also you guys know When you're in jokes position, right where you always come up short that gets into your mind mentally You know, is it gonna happen again? You know, it's kind of like phil mickelson with his major drought or the red sox how they could never beat the yanks Never won a championship. Now these guys beat these droughts, but it does weigh on you and weigh on you I can never get this done. I can't win Uh, when am I going to choke again? Is it going to happen again? Mentally, it gets tougher and tougher to then get over the hump You know when you continually fail at it. So it's definitely a mental edge for journey in this matchup You know Journey has disney on his side. He's going to have a bandana on which we can all agree. I hope we know You know, I hope we know that uh mills started the bandana I hope we all know that and are reminded of that consistently Um, that it's not jokes, but let's see journey wins this battle Right here 79 to 39 That's a tough game really journey ken pet journey is not a I don't know I explained it about journey. I'm not journey is not a bad passer You know, he's not high powered but he's not the difference between joke and journey as far as passing His joke would always make a mistake That would kill him, you know And journey would never kill himself like that. He would never You know hurt his his chances of moving on whereas joke would do that. I'm gonna move journey on right there Boom I tell you I'm not feeling the dolphins. I don't know if I could have journey winning this tournament right now But let's talk about kiv and pavin man. Are we thinking about that? If that comes to fruition, what are we gonna do man? Yeah to vote. I mean, you know But joker's played really good journey has the ability to pass I think they both have good teams journey. We talked about journey has one of the best teams Uh, what's up about kiv and pavin? I like I said, we've seen kiv. Honestly, I'll go out there and say I think kiv has had the best defense all year Be honest like as much as we talk about We talk about joke and moe And whoever's about super on defense Noah and mills and and journey on defense. I mean, I really think kiv has had the best The best defense man You know, I think kiv has had the best defense all year You know, so who do you guys think as the vote as the votes are coming in right now? If you guys are watching this on youtube Please hit the like button and hit that subscribe button But you can't be here Tuesday nights to get these votes and get these discussions Um, I said I think kiv has had the best defense. I he's been bad. He's been flat out bad on offense this year You know, and it's it's it's tough to see kiv Playing offense and not expecting him to just go crazy. You know what I'm saying So for me, I definitely think uh, if he puts it together on offense, he can win the whole tournament um You know That's kind of how I feel about let's see what the votes are We are 70 percent going pavin or going kiv over pavin right now That's kind of I do feel like kiv will eventually put it together and uh playing playing against that That bear was kind of tough to watch for kiv pavin won't give him a little more of 146 Although I think pavin's 146 has been really good, especially against bunch as we saw him What we saw him play bulls who isn't exactly, you know, berry bunch, but All right, we're gonna move on kiv on this final foe Move up kiv to final foe and we get our journey versus kiv matchup Seems to always be one of the best every single time it happens Every single time it happens seems to be one of the best matchups So let's move down talk about little man versus first clef Now if it wasn't for lucky runs I don't know how a little man would score You know, how would little man score without these lucky runs? I don't know but at the end of the day if we've seen all year Lucky runs happen. Lucky runs are gonna happen and clefs. I may ask clefs run defense Has not been good this year really You know what I mean His run defense has not been good of the people left in the tournament I I in this final eight that we have I would 1000 percent say clef is the Worst person defensively on this list You know saying So it's definitely gonna be a tough matchup again But I do feel like once again, it's a rematch you get to play somebody you just played a couple days ago You get to look at what they were doing defensively see what their thoughts were be a little bit more prepared for it My man z money with the tier one. That's it Yeah, I think clef Think clef loses the little man. No, you know, I'm gonna put clef over and that if the vote says little man I'll go little man. Tell me what you guys think really Yeah, we'll see little man is king of the fighter. I really if I was betting I wouldn't want to be the person that bets against little man. That's rough Uh, izzy. I don't know bro. They said they switched. It's weird It's weird. They're both three seeds or something weird happened there, honestly Jab that's how everybody's been playing all year Hope for that breakout run get that breakout running get a poppin Yeah, it might come down to the witness you lying that might come down to who user picks You know See this poll looking like we got cleft by a little bit Cleft by a little bit. I'm gonna move cleft on up Let's I said it's gonna take a lot for me not to pick cleft to win this tournament Win this tournament Now what we got after that? D craw versus Noah Man, I want to just snap pick D. Croft in my mind I want to But I don't think that's fair to the Noah man chat. What are we thinking here? D. Croft Noah Talk to me about what your thoughts are D. Croft has had some of the better defense for the run all year really What do you guys think man poll is up poll is live poll is live D. Croft is winning the belt Noah cooking croft Noah isn't clutch. I I really Yo, you know what's crazy? I really have been saying all year. There's no way you don't bring a quarterback to the party But at the same time I I haven't run into a game where I can say damn I bet that person wish they had a quarterback, you know, I feel like it really hasn't hurt people that much You know It does take D. Croft a lot of time to score but he has had some big plays over the top as well Um, yeah, this is a tough game No, Jesse. I'm telling you one thing about talking consistently and not like having a break to catch your breath Or that's like constantly breathing make sure you run out of oxygen in your head Honestly, it's not even like tired. You just need to like you're not breathing Because you're talking so much so fast. You're not breathing all the way through Yeah You think you think D. Croft has been missing reeds. Okay D. Croft is getting flooded Yeah, we'll see. I don't know. I honestly I want to my heart pick against everybody that doesn't have a quarterback I want everybody that doesn't have a quarterback out of the tournament as we can see right now That Noah in this current bracket Noah is the only person without a quarterback So do we want him out of the tournament? Are we cutting him out of the tournament? I will say I'm going to go with the poll Noah's defense is good. You know, it really is good Uh, D. Croft is played good offense. You know D. Croft 73 percent. That's pretty nuts But I'll move him up. I said that's pretty nice. I'll move him up. We'll move him up 73 percent. I think it's super That's why I go back when I talked about rage, man. Like People just go oh man, I don't do that People really just get to the point where they go. Oh, I know who that guy is. Let me pick him You know and it's tough. It's tough to really pick a runner, you know I will tell you I like Noah versus D. Croft wait or clef versus D. Croft way more than I liked him against Noah. I'll tell you that much I'll tell you that much. I I would be happy if this happened I don't I don't I don't like clef versus that Noah guy, bro. I don't know what it is, bro I don't know. All right, so we go to this final four. We got journey and kiv I'd be happy not that it's not about D. Croft. It's more about Clef don't really like that clef don't really like that Noah guy Yeah, that's bro Yeah, the club but it mattered though. It's just hard to say that don't matter Every game kind of matters a little bit, but All right journey versus kiv. I feel like this is the most 50 50 ever I'm going by the votes. I'm going by the votes of the poll of the chat That's what I'm going by So don't don't don't come yelling at me journey versus kiv. I feel like these guys this is just instant classic every time they play I feel like this is probably the most I feel like this is probably the most 50 50 Matchup we could have in madden right now, right? I don't know I You know what? It's just crazy because like You know what you're going to get out of the runners. You just know what's going to Yeah, I probably would have picked no one to go on to the final four really Black man and kind of ass Oh journey's going to drop a tic-tac soon, bro Oh, we went out. You know what we're going to get. We're going to get vote going to be journey mills going to be poppin Henry and clef is Henry and clef. No one's going to be Wesley. No one's going to be D. Croft little man We're going to a final four going to be joke versus volt and little man versus no, if that's the case, bro Oh my god a lot of picks Bro, we're going to have joke versus volt little man versus no Lights was good man. We chilling kicking it Well, who we got in this matchup. Let's take a look at the vote expecting the 50 50 We got kiv by a little bit kiv by five votes right now That's like I said man, if you're not here voting Tuesday nights next Tuesday, we will definitely have The review of these games we're going to talk more about gameplay because there's going to be I feel like when there's so many games It's hard to pick one game to watch gameplay from like what you know, we could have we I mean it's just When there's one game or two games Hopefully we'll get whoever wins this tournament on a podcast next week talking about their games as we have Drenny win this vote 67 to 65 Oh 67 to 65 Drenny that's tough. So Drenny Moving on to the finals man. If Drenny made this final of all the success he's had the last two years Drenny Drenny's got to be creeping in the top three He's got to be super creeping I mean the run he's made the last couple years is special, you know This will be like four final games for him. That's like a skimbo-esque type of run really We see Drenny in the finals man, boom If that happened Now we got clefers decroft. I know where I'm voting chat Talk about that. What would you guys go clef versus decroft? I honestly don't feel like I mean Part of me feels like this Part of me does feel like you know part of me does feel like Decroft offense is good, but I think it's a little too janky I don't understand with janky. I don't know. I just feel like I don't know. I don't know man. I don't know if you got safe. Oh, I really don't He does he has been playing conservative honest Hey, yeah Well, I'll tell you this look at like this Q if he gets by Henry and then little man decroft is like all right I mean that that would be tough. Uh Yeah, we'll see I'm gonna be honest too I don't like decrofting these bangles jerseys, bro I don't like decrofting the bangles boys. I don't know that we do ads before every game live on the stream. So May 14th, which is what Thursday will be live for all these games may 15th will be live for all these games And may 16th will be live for this one and if clef plays run defense will be good, bro I don't think clef lost to a passer. Honestly, who I don't even know who last who lost to the passers in these games really Who has ever lost to these passers? Oh, we got decroft On the chat vote. Hi y'all just all on the decroft train. Okay We all On the decroft train. Okay Okay, all on the croft train. Okay Okay On the decroft train. Okay, bam. So That's the chat's vote. It's the chat's poll That's the finals That's tough. So, I mean, I think we all We'll see what happens. Let's do a vote right now. It's Renny versus the croft in the finals Bro, Ken. I we've seen you sucking Henry's cock for the last 30 minutes, bro Please type another sentence of how you think Henry's gonna win Henry has been out of this fucking make-believe bracket. We've been making for 45 minutes Please continue to tell that bro. We have seen it. YouTube has seen it. Everybody in the chat has seen it Jesus Christ man I swear to god, that's Henry's creep I'm not mad. It's like bro. Okay. Like what do you like? Okay, bro. Okay. We've seen it. Thank you Literally like My bad. I want y'all to contribute to the pot. Y'all helped the podcast a lot. I mean, I appreciate y'all man coming through Shit So if this make-believe ass finals happen Who would you guys pick? Renny or the croft? I mean black man in loss I really want to see this guy ken. What his name is bro He just made he literally just made the account march 23rd Okay, he's been following since march 23 could be a Henry creep could be a creep Ken we need more info on on ken. He has no profile picture on his twitch Okay, I'm gonna show you guys right there. Boom. Oh, no, I can't bring out a twitch stand Ken are Crass though Ken are crass though Could be a creep And now this is how I feel about journey. Can we really call journey a runner right now chat? He has a quarterback. There is five people still left in this what say was 16 12 people are left Five of them have no quarterback. Is journey a runner right now I mean, he's a runner, but this year. I feel like he can't be considered a runner Like in this man, I feel like he's almost a passer Right chat like I feel like that's this is a tough Debate I thought about this man He's not a runner runner, but he's a runner breeze. You're right. I know journey is a runner journey's journey's I hate journey, bro. I like every time play journey is Every time I think he's gonna pass you want to run and not bro like fucking journey, bro He's a runner. Yes Please football Imagine having any underscores journey is a runner, bro Journey, do you think you're a runner journey is in the chat wins the vote by 71 percent? So journey is our winner a champion of the podcast I'm be honest journey with the dolphins jerseys as journey is in the chat So when you talk about these dolphins journeys, where's journey to it journey to definitely got some votes in bluff somebody else Don't bluff me bluff somebody else, bro If journey wins another belt, I mean he you kind of got him If journey was this tournament, I mean you probably almost at this point got to put him over skimbo Right because they would have the same belts journey would do it in three years I mean that's I feel like journey would be right there if he brought like for real like He'd be super high really you know saying No journey you you messed up journey journey. Who is your team, bro? We got to add We talked about as earlier journey like you're really not a football fan and it's hard not to root for football for nine football fans So you know what else Do you know what else I feel about journey? I feel like journey is not good at anything He just really goes out there and throws the ball around and wins bro seriously Like he just balls like I yeah, oh, yeah, I mean journey always plays defense But he don't like he's not a wild type of player. You feel what I'm saying The journey was about the emos back Journey's not journey's not a fan of football Bro, honestly, if it wasn't for man, I don't think journey would even watch football. He wouldn't know the rules of football Journey is kawaii is journey kawaii Journey might be dunking journey might be dunking to a Tim Duncan type on I know I don't understand We talked about that bro. It's hard for us to root for them. No, I don't know man I don't even know how oh, yeah now. Oh, yeah now we're playing when let's play mad And they don't even know any of the football players and stuff journey is bob koozie I think journey's Tim Duncan, bro I think kib is like uh More like a Nash or a Stockton type No, kib would be more Pete Marovitch Journey you're Tim Duncan, bro Journey 1000 is Tim Duncan Journey is not my home. Well, I was journey my home journey is Tim Duncan Kib is not Rodman, bro Who's jr smith? I might be jr, bro. I might really be jr Journey is not Dreymon. No, what y'all do what what's wrong with journey being freaking Tim Duncan? I feel like journey is Tim Duncan Speaking of all-star team, but what's up? I'm a boot up Journey is not jr smith. What? I'm done. Y'all just naming anybody now Y'all really just naming everybody who was pilot pilot who would probably be Probably might be like Lillard Pavin might be Lillard No, Pavin got he got a little flash to him. I don't think he's a hard working type I think he's like a Lillard like he's like a scorer You gotta give Pavin like a scorer. No, he's not Aaron Gordy Y'all just naming anybody it makes no sense Pavin is Tony Parker. I like that I like Pavin is Tony Parker Oh Devin Booker, that's not bad. I feel like Devin Booker is a loser though Just because he's on a shitty team. I don't see Pavin is like I like Lillard better Deacroft is it? No Deacroft is like Deacroft not in the NBA, bro. Deacroft is like I don't even know. Deacroft is like No, Pavin is not Jimmy Butler, bro. Y'all are worse. Deacroft is why Dennis? Why is Deacroft Dennis Robbins? Deacroft has khakis on and a golf shirt and he said then are we're done with this We're done chat. We're just done. We've gone too far. Y'all have y'all are just saying any name with any player It has no correlation. Literally just naming anybody. That's what's going on. I'm just done with it. I'm done I'm done Deacroft is Bobon. I'm done. No, I'm done. This is and we're out We're out with this conversation, man. We're just done Little man is pat buff though Little man is definitely pat buff Handsboro. Yo, Deacroft is definitely handsboro. All right. All right. I got me back on Okay, you started putting some w's in the chat. Okay Deacroft is definitely handsboro. Yo, Deacroft 1000% is psychotea. Yes Now I'm Kwame brown. No, Kwame brown. Come on, bro. At least gotta get like dirt or something Noah is lambi. I can see Noah is lambir Okay No, Deacroft is Deacroft is one that's psychotea, bro Yes, Deacroft the psychotea is but like it don't get no better Skimbo is KD. Stop it. Problem is Greg Odin I could be KG. I could like me being KG. Okay Clef is Westbrook Mills is Draymond Mills is like Tony Allen or some shit I feel like problem I feel like problem got a little bit of shack. I feel like shack problem gotta be shack Just cuz like in his time, he was super dominant You know what I'm saying? But now he's like Celtic shack. I'm saying But in his time, he was shack. I'm saying Clef is KD Mills is Matt Barnes. Why is this? Popping could be a little de-weightish. Okay No, little man is Pat Bev, bro Problem is not big baby. You know, y'all just we can't disrespect problem, bro Who's who's was she Wallace? Little man is Pat Bev, bro. Little man is Pat Bev. Decroft this psychotea Wesley is not Steve Kerr. Dianna Westbrook Volt is not big baby, bro. Volt. I don't think volt has an NBA comparison, bro. I really don't I'll take she she was the man, bro Moe is Larry Bird. No, Moe is more of a lambier type Problem is not bar. I think problem is shack. Clef is Giannis Volt, Greg Oster tag Problem is shack, bro. Shack was dominant in his time, bro. Problem was super dominant Problem is still the best player ever, bro And it's uh, no one's gonna really pass problem for like another five years at least There is no LeBron of Madden There's no LeBron Zion, bro. I'm just I'm over y'all. It's a big country. All right, all right The only the only ones I could lock in is Pat Bev and little man 100 decrofted psychotea Tom Chambers Henry Chris Paul Joke is Draymond Green Oh, all right. First, we're not gonna question. I mean Wesley looked like a Tina But we're not gonna say he's a whole John Collins. Shit. Let's not get crit. Let's not get carried away, man Even though he looked like Tina. He's still a Wesley, bro. Let's let's relax. All right. Y'all getting too carried away Kiv might be Luca. Yeah. All right. We're back to saying anybody. All right. I'm really gonna ban the chat. We're gonna turn the chat off We're gonna turn the chat off. It's getting crazy You guys are just naming anybody now Mills is Gary Payton I mean, I could I could see Mills is a Gary Payton type No votes no homer pigs cleft wins in a landslide I just I really hope I mean, I I've never been I've never been uh Big on like is this good for the game like make sure it's good on ESPN But when I say that I also now I start thinking like would it be good if we had joke versus Noah on ESPN too? You know, would that really be good? And I also think like would a good game a good game on ESPN would it help madden that much? You know would is the plus and you know is the plus and negative That important for that ESPN game, you know, I think about that a lot like Would it really suck to have people with no quarterbacks playing in the finals? Yes, it would suck Would it be awesome if we had kiv versus cleft for the finals or another? How about kiv versus d-croft? Remember the game they had in seattle club What if they had a rematch in the finals for that? Yeah, but donnie, I just think about like I just think about is it really Important that the game is good to watch, you know for extra view You know potential madden fans of the future potential people that get in the madden potential people that are interested in the game You know, is it important that the game be entertaining be balanced to be a good game? Is that important? You know, you know, that's kind of how I feel That's what i'm saying. So I At this point outside of my friendships, you know with bulls cleft skimbo, whoever is that outside of that I kind of Personally root for what would be best? For this whole esport thing, you know for us to grow what would be best. I kind of root for that um, personally, I don't want to see runners um win Every tournament, you know, is that really the year we're going to have where four tournaments have been won with people without passing? Like as much as I say, you know, oh nine is bad or oh nine is the worst man ever like people did have to pass You know and when we look back at this man and you say dude People won every major without passing That is the biggest negative to this whole year that cannot be ignored It just can't you know, and if that's the road we're already three out of four majors done And they haven't passed the win are we going to get the fourth major the cherry on top The madden bowl and the dear tournament and people still losing the people without quarterbacks That would be actually nuts Really You know That's awful. My man that dude personally with the tier one. Thank you Don't shout out. I mean, that's not true because I know runners that don't like it, you know I just I'm not gonna say I don't like the game. I honestly enjoy playing the game, but um, it's just Just rough Just rough to to argue this game amongst the the best games ever and say um Boom Is this the worst man ever type of thing, you know Danny, that's that's everybody though, you know, that's That's also joke. Joke has run bunch. He's run tight flex. He's run You know bunch. He's run pretty much everything that You know has been good in the game Same thing little man, too. Honestly Uh, well little man. Just like I said is the pg version of joke with Yeah, gunshots what you want to do is since you're a sub you can go back and just start this whole show over, bro You start the whole show over and start from the beginning I do I disagree my man personally with the five gifted man. Thank you. I appreciate it I appreciate you, buddy but yeah Yeah, run commit. All right, that's probably when we look back this year, man Run commit being better would definitely help so that definitely hurt the whole year and whole but You could you shouldn't have to have some little threat? of Passing what would happen in f l is literally they put me at quarterback For for who wants to vote for for the chief or no, seriously like the niners now the niners jimmy g We could say whatever we want. He's not he sucks. Whatever we want to say What would happen if they literally put me at quarterback? Do you think they could win a game? That's what i'm asking you guys. Do you think it's possible? I I personally feel like they would go 0 and 16 Like could they win a single game? Now, okay, here we go, but let's go back to this. Let's go back to this No, but it's just it's just the threat Sometimes the threat of a pass is enough if you put me at quarterback Literally, we'd never be able to pass now. Here goes another question on all seriousness now. I have been I hate when people bring up can alabama beat the browns I hate that shit because college teams could never beat professional athletes I don't care how bad an nfl team is and how good a college team is No, they just they simply can't it will it won't happen nfl has grown men playing for their livelihood It is it's grown men that have been playing to hold. They're not beating. I don't care how fast How quick these teams are they're not beating nfl men. There's just not it's not happening now If I was at quarterback for the Niners and we played lsu or alabama seriously Could me at quarterback Of an nfl team beat a college team Now What I mean is that So the the college team literally knows I think we can never pass Could we win just running the ball and playing defense seriously Just really think about it because that's like the equivalent of madden right now Literally, I wouldn't but no you you guys think the nfl would still I'd still win No, no an nfl team would be the high school team. Let's not get crazy. No But I'm not but I'm saying I'm not I'm not going to pass. That's my point Literally, I'm just running just handing the ball off, but a college team knows that They know we cannot we don't have a pass play in in the playbook. Can we still win? Yeah, well, yeah, we'll have the best running back ever, you know We'll have who's the best running back in the league right now seguan We have seguan You know could the nfl team won no jimmy g has to pass Yeah, give me derrick henry seguan, whoever y'all think is the best. All right christian mccaffrey. Give me him Could we win? That's a good question Well, so you think that like with that nfl team fact says all right chase you get to I could get a handle off I don't know if I can catch the snap though okay You really still think the nfl could beat the college team with me a quarterback Yeah, westley for sure. Definitely. I mean They would dominate the line, but literally it's even a but the credit is my point I feel like you could run commit in real life or something like it wouldn't even be one-on-ones There'd be like eight people in the box. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like they'd be like goal line defense I guess we could run jet touch passes and shit Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. Like what like what's the And that's we said that's the equivalent of madden right now as we're going on a crazy tangent show is over two hours, man But that's why I asked you guys youtube, but you're still here You guys know put the cash app or put the paypal below man I bless three or four people every week for paying attention to the podcast. It's going to keep popping man Yeah, I mean I might fumble the snap, but like I don't know man But this is what's crazy like I don't know what the 10 cap can do. Do you even have to cover the receivers? I guess the 10 cap can't get it out there But it's really it's this my thing probably it's really not like a one-on-one thing Yeah, I That's the equivalent of what madden is right now, man I only got one. I only got one running back. Don't quarter I'm a eight cap might be a cap quarterback That's a good poll. I think I want to make this a twitter poll One running back So we got to use our timeouts All right. Well, so I'm sort of for the twitter poll. I'm going to say I I become the quarterback of the 49ers Could the 49ers Who was the best cause team uh lsu, right? What's the name board? Oh board. Oh, what is it? Joe burrow board. Oh fucking wines right now Lsu was the best cause team, right? So we go if I know I They make me the quarterback of the niners Who would win lsu or the niners? Wow, no, just stop it though. I'm from ohio. Shit Are y'all gonna vote on that? All right. Well, this was the I'm gonna record that right now and put it on This was the new podcast episode 80 comment below man. Would I win with the niners or would lsu Beat me. That's my question now because we can agree with this chat, right? Lsu's defense is kind of like a pass or salary cap defense like good in some spots NFL players in a second there may be a little weak on the d-line Maybe the linebacker's not as fast, right? That's a good equivalent lsu being a passers salary cap defense I feel like that's a good equivalent You know By the way, this was the new podcast episode 80. So comment below who would win me and the niners or lsu