 Yeah, definitely depends on the year, but they could have something to do with December. Yeah, they really do. You messed up. It's difficult when you have hearing aids. You know what? That's why I got one of these. I mean, you've got hearing aids, some glasses, and something. And did you wear glasses permanently? Yeah, glasses too, I could put these on. Well, you know, it's an offer of half a million dollars that someone could invent a mask from a divided administration. Half a million dollars that you could invent a mask that will not affect your hearing aids and your glasses. Oh, yeah? Yeah, so someone, well that's a little bit of an enticement. And that is an enticement because then, but they would own the power. Nope, half a million dollars. Can we add in that fog of the glasses too? Yeah! It'd be probably one of those with the scrap up here and the scrap back there. Yeah, because he's in the medical room. Yeah. You know, yeah. I'm one of the friends along my library and there is one of the guys there who wears a mask which doesn't fog up his glasses because up here there's like an extra piece that goes to like here. So of course I asked him when he got it. And he told me by the age when they say, well my wife got it for me. Oh! That's funny. When your wife got it for you, like, really? Well in the Bible, in the Bible it says that Adam was here alone and he said, and God said, man, you should not be alone. He knew what he was doing when he did that. The whole story of my wife works in a hospital and she got it for the mask. That's where mine came from. Oh, man. I wish she did. There are a lot of places where a few of the men are in the hospital. Okay. Supply chain, here we come. We had two cousins from Las Vegas. My cousin and her husband. She had to have an 80th birthday party. Thank God that my wife and I were going to go stay with them for the party. We didn't go for any of the birthday parties. But we changed our film back in the 40s. That had been hostile. She had not been vaccinated. Oh, gosh. But they both passed away. Well, yeah, and they were in that age group. Yeah, 80 and 85. Yeah, there we go. But he had been vaccinated. He lasted about 10 days longer than she was. But you may not know what he had done. He died of. Did he have died of yeast? No. Was he obese? No. Just a broken heart that they've been married a while. Well, he cried with me when she said, I just want to die. I'm suffering. And then his last words to his daughter is ended with him. I guess that the thing that I understand is the leaking part of it. So we can even realize how hard it can be. You know, just at the last. I just can't imagine the good Lord was watching over us on that one. Yeah. We were going to be right in the middle of all that. Six people got it at that time. But I'd never heard about the other people. I didn't want you to do this. I'm fine with that. I put it on and take it off. Yes. Let's call you to order. Yep. I have to do it. Oh, here she is. Hello. Okay. Okay. We have our gifts, Marcia and Michelle and Tyler. Welcome. So thank you. But first, just let's go over the minutes of the last meetings. Does everybody read them? Are there any attorneys? I think you captured it quite well. I like the whole stuff. I'm very sorry I missed that one. You're no turn. I hope so. I'll make a motion. All second. Business. Yeah. So why don't you tell folks who you are if you have it. If I missed that. Yeah. Yeah. So. Transportation. For the city. I heard some questions or some discussion earlier on. And if there's questions in your time, I can definitely talk to some of those that we talked about earlier. So the main reason I'm here today is talk a little bit about pedestrian crosswalks. I understand there are questions about. I don't know the full question, but in terms of the time displayed on the countdown display might seem too short. So if there's any specific questions, I can, I can definitely answer questions, but to give kind of a brief overview of how those work and how we come up with what is the time on displayed on those countdowns. So when we start with those relatively basic and rudimentary measurement, how far is it from one ramp to the other? This is more of my, I look at how we live by this book here, the manual on the Ukraine control devices. And it says the city is adopted this book as a code or exterior. It says that we use a walking speed of three and a half per second. So 10 years ago, 15 years ago the walk speed used to be four feet per second. The current version will slow, which will have to be per second at the time that we use, or assume we use for the calculations in distance over time. You have to go this far at three and a half feet per second. Let's always come off with the number for the clearance interval. And now it's not exactly the number that you would see on the countdown. So if you take a measurement divided by three and a half, it's not exactly the number you see displayed on the countdown. And the reason for that is we're also using the time there's a yellow and red clearance interval that happens. And so the countdown is zero on the walk. There's still a yellow and red clearance interval that's found as part of the walk time, the clearance interval. So anytime you're crossing, the minimum you're going to have is an additional three seconds after that countdown gets to zero. So as long as the signal is still yellow, red, you still have, you're still within your walk interval. There are no conflicting difference. And the other thing that definitely we look for and expect from drivers is that obviously if you're on side street waiting and if that's your on the walk in front of you, even though your bike's turning, it's not appropriate to run over the tip of that screen. So that's... Well, I had a question. So, give them a break. Let me finish. Before you ask your questions, Aneed, my question has to do with this book. And is there different distance over time for different kinds of streets? So, not really. So the difference would be there is still an allowance if you have an intersection that's at capacity, say in Bratton, Maine, where it's really busy and backed up and it's kind of terrible about everyone. We do have an opportunity to use a 40% walk speed to shorten the walk time. So people have to go quicker. It's an option. And so the other thing is, I'm just talking so far about the clearance interval. The other part I didn't talk about the walk interval or the display when you see the walking person display. Generally, that's about four seconds, four to six seconds. That one is more variable. You have some time to add to that one. And the intent of that is really to get your attention and to get you started crossing. It's not in community. You have to walk before the countdown starts. But that's really the opportunity of, hey, walk lights on. Using another crosswalk now is what that's intended to do. All of our crosswalks, I'm not aware of any that we haven't changed out for the countdown. So everyone counting through the signal should be the countdown. If you know of any that aren't, I think there's three places involved. We have a couple of places where some different operations and how those work. Primarily kind of the downtown main area where parallel main, you'll see that the walk will come on parallel main without clicking the button. You do that where you can. So say that again. That did do it. So if you're crossing the avenues parallel main, third to Longs Peak Avenue, and you just want to cross, the walk will come on with the journey through Main Street. So you don't necessarily have to push a button. If you want to cross Main Street, you do have to push a button for that. We can talk about whether that's the best operation or not, but really what that does is it just defaults back to Main Street green, right? We've got 30,000 cars a day on Main Street. We have several hundred on the avenues. So just that balance of meeting the demand, if you have a pet recall across Main Street, it's going to cycle and keep cycling, whether there's a pet there or not. So that's really why we do that. There are some locations where we are able to do what we call a pedestrian pet-protect feature. And it's primarily with left turn. So I think the first one we drive is Airport and Pipe following the Southwest part of town over the left turn. We have a typical red yellow-green arrow for the left turn or a flush yellow arrow as well. If the pet button is pushed, that left turn will be protected only. So we'll get a green arrow and a red arrow, but there's no yellow arrow or a yellow flush yellow arrow. And that's one place where you can see some conflicts. Sometimes when you have the left turn, the permissive left, the pedestrian's coming into the city. So where we have left turn is that maybe an option, but there's some where it can be done at a couple of different intersections. I'll be quiet now and if there's any back questions, happy to be with us. I just have a quick question for the group. Can we open the windows? Sure. I know. It's a little scary. It's stuffy in here. Yeah, it's stuffy. See, Sue and I have the same roots as that. A lot of work is going into these calculations. However, especially on Main Street and down the town, we have multiple senior housing facilities and we have many seniors that are using those crosswalks including myself. And I don't have major disability, but I cannot get across the crosswalk in the amount of time that is designated to me that four seconds or whatever it is. And inevitably, I have cars passing before I'm across the road. Now, I understand that cars have priority, but I think that at certain crossings, especially those that are very close to or used a lot by senior citizens that I'd like to see the same consider some change in that crossing time because my kids could get across there, no problem, but I do have trouble doing that. I've also seen mothers with kids on both sides have difficulty with crossing the crosswalk. And I'd love to assume that all of these drivers in the city would just be watching for us, but I need to share with you not my experience. So if I could, a couple of questions. Any intersections in particular that you see are used the most. The one on 3rd Main, crossing 3rd Main, the one on 4th and Main, and the senior housing is at 6th, right? And the one, it's almost like between 6th and 3rd. You know, that's a major issue. It's also the busiest part of downtown. And, you know, not many of us are down on Kent Frat and Hover trying to get across the street, but in the main part of town, that's a different story. So I'd just like to think that somebody might kind of take a look at that. I'll volunteer to go walk in and crosswalk you, what exactly, you know. And like I said, I don't particularly have a disability, but I struggle, I see people struggle. I see mothers move mums with little things. Just barely making it across. The other, the other places, Tyler, just to build on Jimmy's point about senior housing, I think are around 17th and Hover, 18th and Hover, folks coming into the Stateway and the Walgreens and whatnot. If you're looking at where older adult communities are and major streets, so I consider Hover pretty significant. And then on North Main, near Taco Bell, what's the, is that 22nd maybe? 21st or 22nd. If you're looking at it from where are there senior housing and people are crossing four, five lanes, sometimes six depending on if there's a rider or a left turn. So those could be similar. They don't have the volume of pedestrians that downtown does by any means, but I certainly, I drive North on Main quite a bit. And there are a lot of people, and we've talked about this relative to the bus piece, people cross mid block up there, which is very scary, but those would be the other two where there's a lot of senior housing and major streets. Tyler, I guess a related question about what the code in the book actually means here. So, for example, if I'm going to build this parking building, the code says I have to have at least this many parking places per unit. So a code can be a minimum or a code can be a maximum. It almost never is an absolute. This code isn't an absolute either, right? It's a minimum. So in other words, there's nothing actually preventing us except the consequences to traffic flow from making it longer. That's two questions. Do you know if it's still illegal for crossover crosswalks when a pedestrian is on it? So I believe the state law says when a pedestrian is crossing the crosswalk within the portion of the roadway that could be involved in it. So if your northbound main street and pedestrian is crossing the two northbound lanes in the three-step mid block section, you're free to continue through. It's not legal, obviously, to go on someone over. If they're in front of you with what the state law says, like you can drive after they've passed. And you don't have to yield to one of the things that there was even when standing on the side waiting across. There may be an expectation that vehicles shall yield. They're not obligated to do for the current state law. Okay. That's interesting. Oh, did you have a question? Yeah, so the other question I have is that I know of some of the people who you saw three years ago. I went to a city meeting where they invited the public to talk about, you know, different traffic for walking and riding like humans do. And we have down in, you know, specifically a section of main street you have those crosswalks where, you know, in Boulder they have the flashing yellow lights with the traffic, alert traffic, and they talk about you know, in terms of just having a sign there or putting the flash on there. So a couple things. One, a couple of Martin's I saw some of this last night with the main street corridor. Main street corridor was a planning effort that the police kind of ended twenty-nights and identified a lot of those needs or how do we address those comments on the main street? I think the first phase it's the letter request for design which was kind of the most part that you mentioned earlier talking about some mid-walk time. It was part of working the way south. Interesting. Interestingly enough, when we look at our grid layout on the main street and if we follow that grid policy if we follow grid rules on the blocks and put it into the nearest signal as crossing but that's something we'll be taking another look at as we do the main street corridor plan. What's the timeline on that? I didn't hear about it. It was too quick to have time-wise. It's in the budget. It's in the budget. Like I said, the first phase in the budget request was for the north main part primarily in 1966 and then working south in the corridor in subsequent years. I think the downtown area has some additional focused work on it and I don't remember what you said but there's bigger plans for that. On the crosswalk we were talking about is that a city or a state to the main street? Yes, that crosswalk on the main street. The main street is the state facility and we do maintain and do a lot of the courtyard on that facility adding something like a flasher who doesn't even see how the approval level can do it but we tend to have it in the city. So they would prove it that the city would pay for it? Because I want to, yes. I just want to say there's seven comments which cause a given priority. So I want to comment on that and I have a question. We talked about sustainability and it's really kind of strange to me that the cause a given the priority when we're saying we want to have a sustainable place to live. So I just want to make that comment but I don't know what you know this but on yesterday I was riding my bicycle through the library so what is that? Is that four? So my understanding of maybe the city that has ridden my bike the big circle in the middle there once a bike passes that the light should change for me as the bike goes. But of course I've ridden a couple of times just to see and it doesn't change. I'm wondering if those bike-activated circles are working or whether they work at one time and don't work anymore. So a great question on Main Street. Everything on Main Street didn't burn off of a thermal camera. So it loops in the pavement and in Main Street they're not doing anything. It's a camera that will see up on the mask arm that has a signature rather than video image so the loops can be misleading if they're on the screen. But when you have the bike zones programmed and generally they're pretty good at picking up it's a temperature that's like a thermal camera so if they're really good at detecting people a compliment will work and it's really good to be able to communicate that's really old signals on there. Some are older signals in town and a lot of those are using loops and yes I'd love to upgrade those it's about $25,000 an intersection to add for detection. We're also working on a project on Coffman Street so we got $7.5 million from Dr. Todd to rebuild Coffman Street so rather than doing it now we're going to try and use some of the grand dollars for all this process. I just with the lights flashing on the lights as a driver I have missed seeing people in a crosswalk before but when the lights come on that really makes a difference for me because I know to stop you know somebody's there whether I'm seeing them or not so I think it's a wonderful safety. And until about last year we didn't have any end down in the last year we couldn't have an ample location to go on. Not me and Harlow, but I think that there's little men we've done 9th and this was the last year that trail crossing 9th and but not but at school our first handful that we've done and that's and really that's what they do they don't change the laws that helps draw some attention that someone might be there. Marcia, this is Kyla this is strictly in the A-forces observation but I do sit on the DBA board and hear what all the merchants are saying what all the customers are saying and my conclusion from those hearings is that making the walk lights longer in the downtown area would actually have would improve the sustainability and have a traffic calming effect and lower congestion because people hate to cross main so much that they will circle around until they can park on the side of the street they care about and so if people were not afraid to cross the street there would end up being less traffic I think it's a good job it's often not this is it's zero there you go I want to be in the moment where this man is involved with the 20 years and we have the flashing lights for maybe 10 it's not the people in the car us of the problem although people from out of town I have no idea where these lights are it's the people crossing the street and I'm afraid to say a lot of them involved in the bicycles I can go there would be more people almost clear than in the regular cross I you can tell I hate them the passion I wish there was something easier I take Janine's point that she is careful that she's a responsible and more driver it's more that pedestrians and drivers from out of town and I gave directions to people visiting so if you see these flashing lights slow down and stop so that's great feedback and it's definitely not presented in this way a lot of the reason why we don't just throw it in every way they definitely don't solve all of the problems they can be useful but they definitely are not a the whole physics you push the button and stop doesn't make the car stop any faster and if you don't give the driver a chance I think the average person is the reason we're going to really try to follow the rules but I don't think anyone sets out intending to get into a crash or something I don't know do you know if you ask people if they want a passenger on the car and you say to somebody hi man do you want the speed record it's good people won't know there's so much science if you have science it's a pedestrian crossing be careful is that anything? yes it just goes slow down but yellow actually doesn't make you stop running so slow down I never make a left and yellow flash it has to be totally clear from this I'm used to left turning it alerts you it alerts you that somebody has triggered you somebody has walked into that crosswalk so you're either through or decided not to go but it makes you look and that's the difference the problem is that and I'm guilty of this is that when I used to live there either riding the bike you hop the button and you go out because they assume that the cars are going to stop and that's not the truth it's just similar and I think that like she would say it's almost like how do we solve that problem you know in my mind all of a sudden they're open so people can actually cross that's a little bit I don't understand people will probably be very upset they'll just walk around but I think that it is sort of one of those deal words like you want to have as a motorist you want to have the signal that says caution you watch out and then you want to do as a pedestrian that you're safe but yet as a pedestrian you have to also just save walking so it's a hard either way if you have them or you don't I know that because I'm on the inside all the time my office is there I'm three blocks away from there I'm constantly going that way and I'll go to I won't go to the light I'll actually go to the wheel and I'll wait and I'll step and I'll wait how many cars will stop for me one car will stop the second lane may not so I wait until that car stops and then I go out in the middle until the next lane decides if they're going to stop for me but that's just because I'm a user I guess I'm user friendly whereas most people might want to just drive across and expect everybody to stop for them they're tools not rules yeah so I'm wondering I agree with you but I'm wondering whether it could be time for just at night because I think at night so could the flashing lights go on because someone driving at night that always gets their attention flashing signs because during the day most people have the sight or the visibility to say oh there's like 15 cars coming but at night the car may not see the pedestrian so that would be interesting to just to try with at night rather than during the day so it's also because of the pedestrian if a car is coming at me I have the worst vision at night and I can't tell me how I'm also wondering whether I don't know whether they can do this and I'm not really sure and I'm not a fan of these all because I have a run how to use them of roundabouts to slow traffic yeah so the first time I came to Volvo I would stop by a public office the moment I was driving because I didn't understand I was being told to make a left so I just made a left but there was a roundabout and all of a sudden I called me over and said but it was Sunday morning people at church I guess and said to me do you know how to go through roundabouts and now I don't you gotta be honest and you know throwing a phone roundabouts can slow traffic so I don't know if that's something um the city has considered or whether they I can't see where it's expensive because it's just about just in there um I'm sorry I'm still stuck on $25,000 just a great deal I'm sorry so so I'll sing phrases for roundabouts I think they're great tools they don't have to worry about signal timing they've got power back at power um they can take about a large footprint so right away can generally be your biggest box where does it go in terms of safety so there's opportunities for head-on crashes let's turn the wrong way it's pretty much eliminated you don't get a new writing over your primary crash should be on the site's wife what about some pedestrians what around about the safety for pedestrians like that's a great counterpoint to roundabouts so it signals generally you have a rather stop some sort of vehicle stopping turn on the red or maybe don't stop that's for the vehicle so roundabouts is one of the drawbacks comments on the car don't stop the difference is you're usually crossing the one lane or it's a big roundabout if you're generally crossing the two lanes so you're not crossing to the midwalk on main street the whole fight for it is you're bringing a sporty second car and the second lane doesn't see you when you stop and you get to be ready to cross the roundabout but it's not crossing four lanes at once it's kind of a two-part crossing crossing in one direction and in another direction so that'll be the counterpoint of head-z if you're roundabouts I have seen where you can add a flasher, hit some of those I think we've just got several who've set up that way with the long R and FB the rapid reference of last season so we probably have some roundabouts too as any intersection we looked at as a potential roundabout location it's got the market I hear this one was on the agenda last night but 17th and kind life is one where because of the kind of traffic where there's a lot of traffic on 17th turns to the north where the heavy pattern is east to south and north to west will probably never meet the traffic to the north so roundabout there would actually look really well with the patterns that we see there both for safety and potential speed mitigation and people that want to go over the signal that would be a great solution for that 17th and airport on the other side is number one in the SDSS as well again that would be a bit higher than the second but it's something that's in our focus that we definitely evaluate when we look at intersections but we don't have a lot of best-reads so 17th and airport there is a lot more than the school right there and there's quite a bit of use of delay back in time and there is quite a bit of impact on that The roundabout, I go through the most as the one at 21st and 18 crossing or whatever. And on my way to Spring Creek and Fall River housing. And the part that, the reason I got out of the pedestrian is because there's that park right there on the south side. And there's always people with dogs and walkers and bicyclists. Right now there's no street to the south. That roundabout's just a free way. But I worry about if they add another arm off of it, what that happens. But that's been a little nerve-wracking for me from time to time. It's challenging also for both the driver and the pedestrian because again, especially with kids, it's hard to know where people are going. In that roundabout, you don't know if they're turning. You don't know if their coordinates are right. And people don't always use their signals in the roundabout. So you're kind of stuck on the side of the road trying to dodge the roundabout. And you don't know when people are going to come in and when they're not because they don't always yield. So yeah, it's challenging. Yeah, I would just say for people who maybe don't get out this direction, there's a good example of roundabout use in the extension of Martin Street from 119 all the way down to Quebec. There's a whole string of beads of roundabouts there. And I lived very close to there. In the past two or three years, how long has that been there? People have gotten really much better at using those roundabouts. So now they do what they're supposed to do and people slow down a little bit, but nobody's ever backed up there. I would also observe that maybe the crossings, the natural crossings are not at the roundabout in that. In that design. Because there is a real light at 119, even though there's also a roundabout on both ends of that. And so we rarely encounter a pedestrian in the roundabout. And it really has helped a lot there. In the intersection of Newport and Nelson, I've had a vacation the past four months to go from the west side of the airport to the east side, called Lake. Traffic on Nelson, the Nelson Airport, that turns south. They seem to think that on the red light, they have priority to turn right no matter that there's pedestrians that have the signal that now you can cross airport. It's not safe. You have to walk defensively. Because I've almost gotten run over there. Don't ride your bike there. The airport in Nelson, if you're getting killed. No, most bikers tend to stop and leave. No, but the biker will be killed by the cause. Even though they have to ride their way to the pedestrian. They take their bikes in their hand. I'll take a look at that in terms of see if there's an additional sign. And I live right across the street. The fire department's always responding to clean accidents up there. But as Truby says, probably not enough people have gotten killed. Right. It's really bad. So some of the work we've done, we did give the highway safety something fucking program. I don't know if you've had it done on top of my head, but it was the federal crash reduction program that they put some funding for changing the signals of accidents. The overall amount of the grant was about $100,000. That is one of the intersections we're leaving. It wasn't so involved changing the signals of accidents. Somehow, you just have to let drivers know the district is half the right of way. You can't make the right on red. One lady goes, I'm like, and then coming down airport puts you going 50 to 60 miles an hour. They get to the light and it's like, oh, it's been yellow. I better stop. And so they're in the crosswalk. I felt like walking over their boots. And so I mentioned kind of circling background. I mentioned earlier, we were further south of the motor pipe. We have the left turn that gives you a red arrow. We've got a test cabinet set up. I'm doing that for some right turns. It's an intersection. So one that comes up for the only is Ken Bratt and Nelson for that westbound right turn. And you've got a trail on the other side. So that's probably about the first place you'll see that one. Once we get it working, I would want to order first. Tyler, where do you go from here with this kind of feedback? So I mean, I really appreciate you coming. Thank you. I didn't give Tyler a whole lot. Because honestly, I knew it was downtown, but I couldn't remember the intersection to mean that's spoken to. So he was coming in a little bit blind. So thank you for doing that. I just don't know. But when you have an opportunity to get feedback like this, so what's your next step? Where do you go with this? So I think the first thing I heard a few specifics. I've taken some notes on the specifics. I'll take a look and see if there's adjustments we can do with that. I think one of my goals is to provide some more information. And so you're just going to be able to talk to if there's other questions that come up and kind of really understand the overall, how we look at things a little bit and then just visit the questions if you're calling. Tyler, maybe it's time for a new higher profile outreach campaign. I don't remember who it was, but I heard some of the administrative stakeholders have priority. They normally do. I've heard that several times. Yeah. And they never do. I'm thinking maybe forgetting that. I must have said this 15 times. I don't know whether it's harder in Longmont to kill a prairie dog or a parking place, but you're going to have a struggle in either case. People are in a little mode of defending the roads when urban policy says, well, maybe we shouldn't so much defend those roads. You know, they're not good for the environment and maybe some education ought to be in place. I appreciate that. And I picked up on that too. I heard a lot that cars have priority and I don't think that that's necessarily the case. I can tell you, Tyler's been really great. I have been driving to the various J properties. There are things I've noticed and I've emailed him and said, can you check out this intersection? It's a little wonky or this one might be the stop sign or based on my own experience at that place. And I think Tyler has gone out 21st by Aspen Meadows. There was some real challenging seeing because people were parking right up to the street to make a turn. You had an itchy pinchy is what I call it out there to do that. And I think that's where we as regular users of the streets of Monmont, I mean to expect Tyler to be familiar with every single thing and traffic patterns change over time. So I appreciate being able to sort of say, hey, could you go check this out and see if there's anything usually safety-wise, right? You want to improve somebody's safety. And I appreciate that. I wonder if there's at some point, you know, how the city will have surveys that you can take online or that that's something that would be useful for, you know. Right. Because traffic, pedestrian and bike traffic, it all changes. Yeah. And we're a very small group. Right. So we're all, most of us are talking about like what are our normal patterns or what we see, right? Well, we're not a large representation of the community. So if we could do something like that, you know, spread that out for the community. And that's exactly what's happened for me in the last year. I've spent more time coming and going from here to the senior housing sites. And so my awareness is off because of repetition. And so I think I appreciate being able to just shoot an email and say, hey, check this out. And I do appreciate all the feedback because as much as I'd like to, I do have to have these three all the time. So the community, because of the ones that live there. So I appreciate anything. And thank you. Well, you're here for a coil road. We have a crosswalk at the wax center and we have the speed flasher. And it's a visible difference. Maybe it wasn't one, but oh, it's, you know, the neighborhood around me is just feels so much better about the whole thing. And if you're ever feeling down, just go to Boulder. You know, honestly, I go there for soccer three times a week and all I can think about is helping to get home. Well, you know, in Phoenix, I used to have business in Phoenix. And it was signs that say if you were the pedestrian, huge signs cause have right of way. And I would try and I would, I would like stand there for what sounds like an enormous amount of time in the hot sun until I could get to the building I was supposed to be in. So Phoenix, so weird. It is weird. I frequent a nearby town that has put up crosswalk. Like what four signs, you know, there's a sign in the middle of the road that says crosswalk, but there are no crosswalks painted on the street. And I don't quite got no answer. I don't know. And so it's very curious to me. I think why you would do that without actually painting that asphalt. Yeah. It could be a couple of tabs to do that. Come on. It's just an interesting approach to watch pedestrians. I mean, you know, it just like a sign in the middle. And I'm wondering how many cars and if the signs, because they're just, they're seriously like what we put out at four. I mean, they're just kind of there. And I don't know if they've been successful or not, but it was like bizarre to have a crosswalk stated, but no crosswalk painted. And then there's a chance that that was necessarily an improvement solution. So we see that before. I love the concrete planters that Prestige put in the middle of their, some of their intersections that this, you know, you're not. I mean, it's done with the best of intentions, but unfortunately it would be a less safe situation. Yeah. Okay. It's interesting. Frisco is putting in a whole series of roundabouts to go for the traffic from the highway going to Brexinger. Oh, sure. Because it gets so bad at one another. And so it would be really interesting to see, they're just installed, I think, one or two. I think they've installed, they haven't, they're not completely done, but we were out there this last weekend. And so, and we feel like, you know that area a lot. So it'll be interesting to see how it actually functions in the wintertime, even if it's just, you know, traffic may not. Grimlock is the worst when these things walk up. You need to make sure you have capacity. And that's also one of the things you can do with your rail crossing. Yeah. If you give them closer and a little bit of a 20-minute long train, you're going to, somebody's going to walk up that roundabout and you're not going to have any way to get out. And they're slipping the lunar moon with the snow. I have said this, and I don't quote it correctly, but I've used this phrase a couple of times. If you've ever watched Johnny Depp in Pirates of the Caribbean, where he talks about the pirate code, and he's like, it's guideline two. Just guide. And that's what I kind of heard today is the manual on uniform traffic control type of devices is a good guideline. There are plenty of shells. I like that. Yeah. We appreciate that. Thank you. Thanks for letting me. We're glad you're paying attention. Absolutely. Make Longmont more lookable for cars and people, I guess. Happy to have you. All right. You're all good. I'm going to. People didn't think they would be. In the future. And now I'm going to. So you don't want me to do that. No, I don't. Sorry. Thank you. Moving on to the update. I do not have an update. So keep it on the agenda. I will. We'll rise to the top of the pile. But position of the. But so position update. I'm very excited to. To say that. We are doing interviews today and yesterday for the Longmont housing authority resource specialist. We're very excited. We had 68 applicants. Wow. David from the board was unable to be a part of the interviews that was intended as well as one of the residents was unable to attend the interviews. So I'm sorry that that didn't work out. We had another older adult retiree who didn't sit in on the interview. So I was glad to have her, her view that. You can't, the candidates look great. So I'm very excited to get that person on board. And that person will be a part of just as a reminder, a part of the senior services resource team. And I will be managing that position. And they will be housed at the Longmont housing authority. The suites, which is permanent supportive housing. They will be there Monday Wednesday and Friday. And they will be at the Hearthstone and Lodge senior HUD properties on Tuesdays and Thursdays. And so we're very excited to, to get that person on board and just kind of reconfigure. So right now, Randy has been at the, helping out at the suites and Veronica and Monique, Veronica and Melissa have been at Hearthstone and Lodge. So they will stop doing that work as they have been doing. And we are actually talking about what relationships we can build with Mountain View Plaza, Longspeak residents, St. Green Manor, the other senior residents that are not Longmont housing authority. That perhaps we need to start having some stronger regular presence there. So we're kind of rethinking that. So I asked, who's you had 60 applicants? What did you read it down to? So we had 12 that we were working at interviewing and a couple people didn't return calls. A couple of people know canceled. So we're interviewing six, but six solid ones. I feel really, really good about this. So that's great. A couple other position updates. Is that just a sign of the times because of what happened with Megan's assistant? Yeah. What I am hearing is people are not getting the numbers of applicants they used to get before COVID. And that this cancellation, those show things to be very confident. Yeah. And people don't show up for the first day because they can get better offers up there. Remember the employees have leverage now in terms of their salaries and benefits. So. And whether or not they should be looking for persons in it. Right. Exactly. So do you want me to give the correct coordinator? Okay. So we did do the interviews for the senior recreation coordinator, the position Larry held. And we have offered the job and it's been accepted and Christopher Troxel will be starting on September 20th. I got to tell you. He has been working in the gypsum, the eagle area at a camp for seriously ill children. And they had to go remote, virtual programming and the creativity in his programs for these kids and families. And how he was able to make connections, kid to kid, family to family, as well as engaging activities in a virtual remote kind of way was really very special. I think he will be a really great addition. He hasn't done a lot of work with older adults, but skills seem, his people skills, his programming skills seem very, very transferable. So, very excited to have him. So he's looking for positions. He is. Yes. And actually he was looking for positions in this area because he wanted to move here. So to the Boulder County area. So we're really excited to have him on board and I'm excited to have him on our team. When is his fall? September 20th. And he'll hit the ground running because he needs to be working on December, January, February programs. The other position update is Griffin Gastel, our afternoon evening custodian who's mostly been on loan out during COVID. He's been at other city facilities, accepted positions, daytime position at the memorial building. So we will be having that position open back up and we'll be hiring another afternoon evening custodian. Right now, Martin's covering all places. And Griffin's available to help. So that's one. And then not, of course, a done deal yet, but city council got the 2022 budget last night. Proposed and within the budget is a full-time council position for senior services. So working in conjunction with Brandy and supporting all of our work. So if the timing is good for the first time ever, we actually have a witness for council services right now. And so between the referrals that we're getting from our co-sponder team and code, plus our work in the housing properties, plus COVID, there has been a real increase in support. And so I don't know where council's going. I don't want to put March on this spot, but I was really thrilled that Harold had the position in the budget. I don't think there's going to be very much discussion on those very social equity data analysis, all those positions that are going to really help the city services be more coherent. I had my hand up because I wanted to ask you just a passing thought when you talked about having a waitlist for counseling services. Have you thought, or are resources, while people are on that waitlist, do they get checked on? So Brandy stays on top of that, and we also make referrals to our partner agencies. So Senior Reach at Mental Health Partners, Mental Health Partners directly, they have a geriatric, well used to be a geriatric focused team, private therapists, and then of course our volunteer care counselors. So we have some other resources and Brandy is working on that. So it's been some individuals appear, support is not the right fit, and so then we look beyond that to some other resources. So it's exciting and daunting trying to make all the pieces fit. I will tell you that one United Hospital has moved out, and so we do have some additional office space. So that's probably a really good thing, you know? We have some office home. That's kind of where we are position-wise. Things are changing and building and... I didn't mean custodian. Is that coming full-time? It is full-time. Yes, we made that full-time last year. Yes, so we're hopeful that it'll be easier to get some more for a full-time. It's a hard fill. And what is the commitment? It was September. The position closes September 10th. And I will tell you, I think that there is going to be a custodial position opening for the Long Line Housing Authority also, and it will be a similar online position. So, yeah, I'm encouraging people to look at that Long Line Housing Authority website as well as the City website. That's my position update. Is there any other old business? New business? So I had mentioned this place to Matt. Marcia's seen this before, but I am just providing this as information. Janine knows some of this. There was questions from the City Council retreat around our relationship with the Area Agency on Aging. And this sort of gives a little bit of a history around that. Talks about the Area Agency on Aging and talks about, on the back side, talks about some of the comparisons between Boulder County Area Agency on Aging and Dr. Cog. And so Dr. Cog is currently the Area Agency on Aging for six Metro counties. We used to be the seventh. We separated as an Area Agency on Aging from Dr. Cog over 20 years ago. And so while County is a stand-alone Area Agency on Aging, Larimer County is a stand-alone, and we are, Boulder County is a stand-alone. Most of the other counties in Colorado are Mocha County. There's the Pikes Peak Region or the Tri-County. I forget what Pueblo is. Pueblo is Colorado Region. And so this sort of gives a perspective about where the Area Agency on Aging and the City of Longmont Senior Services have intersected, how we partner. And your presence on that Area Agency on Aging Advisory Committee is a held chair for one of you. Kinnean currently fills that chair. And so I think this is something I'm going to include in the manual for the Board going forward. It kind of sets the stage. Really appreciate Councilwoman Peck asking me specifically about some of these things. Making sure that Longmont is getting what's appropriate and right for services. And you can see on the comparison side kind of what's happening. So I think it's really important that the Board and I will say this as I retire to my staff that we stand top of this relationship. We really represent City Council, I think, in the City's interest in these federal and state dollars. And it's important to understand that role is really important. It's a funding role. It's a service delivery role. And so I think it's really important to have a good clear sort of picture about what this is. And going forward, I guess my concern is I'm kind of helpless because I've been a part of it from the beginning. And I want to make sure folks that there's money involved, there's service delivery involved, and there's prioritization. So what Longmont needs might not be the same as what Ellen's part of Jamestown or the Superior needs. And we need to also have that voice around that and be good partners in that. So as well. So we're recipients and we're partners kind of both and advocacy is important. If you want to say anything else or Marsha about this. Use their services. Well, and I think of them in my volunteer capacity not just being on the board but also working here. That they're just an extension of I have somebody with the need where do I go to get those services and the amount of services available that happen very quickly for anybody out in the world is astounding. Really, really astounding. So it's an incredible connection working together relationship that I perceive. Right. So. Just looking at this. It's very important because there's so many things I thought and I realized I didn't really understand going for a particular agency but it's relationship to other other agencies and it's very nice. Great. Michelle, getting back to the budget on last night's conference I mentioned that there's a lot of money in the council's discretionary fund now the use that she proposed with more equity positions doesn't quite work in the long run because it's never been a quarter of a million dollars before and even though that would fund two positions next year it wouldn't do anything after that. But nevertheless it is there and you know once there is a footprint we tend to find the money and continue something that works. So a thing could be you know we have a trial of consulting positions if there are any gaps do look because we've used the friends of the senior center funds in that way to do some trial positions and trial pilots to see what gains we sort of need so it's good to have those opportunities to sort of figure that out one of the things I think is really important going forward with the area agency on aging is funding from them or perhaps some of our work and we have been more of a partner equal I bring resources on behalf of the city they bring resources on behalf of the state and the feds more opportunities in the future to look at funding I would say right now my biggest concern for the area agency on aging is they do have funds for home care, personal home care but the home care agencies are not hiring they're not finding a voice and that is really challenging when we're talking about trying to keep people housed as long as possible in their housing of choice I'm really interested in how we can help them find employees and drivers who via this is kind of like what can I do to help those two kind of transportation and home care find kind of employees you know personal care depending on your sprawling salary anybody thinks they're going to pay $12 $15, $18 an hour they're kind of out of their minds I don't like that but I'm not sure whether people really understand it the emotional and the physical toll on the person giving personal care starting at $25, $30 an hour minimally with benefits because I think that that's part of the issue is that in the United States they're thinking that personal care people should be paid $10, $11, $12 an hour not or even $15 too little the personal toll on the person providing the care is great and they would find people if they opened a salary that is reasonable starting probably at $25 that was my question too have they adjusted their expectations about pay I think home care agencies are looking at different models for sure I think that was part of the issue the state legislature decided to limit the amount that caregivers could be paid I mean just some ridiculous things like the $30, $40 an hour all the agencies are closing because they can't work to hire anybody and I know the state has also has in-home support so there is funds through the senior center through your agency on aging for choices at home and some other programs you have to be able to hire I mean you have to be able to be hired for those programs I think it's not unlike where we were with day care years ago when people thought you could get day care for $2 an hour or that kind of thing and I think in some ways there is this expectation around what that services value is the other thing is that unless you have home care insurance or the financial resources Medicaid, Medicare hospice does not include personal care and there is a real I think gap in knowledge for people about understanding what that means I think people end up being very surprised by what do you mean Medicare doesn't pay for that what do you mean Medicare most you can get some home and community-based services through Medicaid but you have to qualify for that long-term care need and so that's really some of the work that our resource specialists are doing all the time is trying to help folks understand and some people who bought home care insurance products years and years ago have found out that and what they thought they bought they're not getting what they need so the products today are much better than they were initially but it's still a challenge so we continue to work with our AAA around the personal care to address some of the issues we're just talking about and others we want folks to age in place well we gotta look at what those supports are so anyways looking over the questions I'm happy to answer them or to new can and then I would just say to the board as this goes forward that place on the aging advisory community is huge and important and you help decide how those funds get the state and federal dollars get used and when Ruth Waka was on the aging advisory council as a member of our staff she was really able to push forward some dollars for mental health that had not been for mental health before so voices matter so it's opportunity I thought you had a question sorry quite this long it's not what a big choose not to fight great question yeah, tremendous difference whether it's older meals on wheels or longer meals on wheels gets any of the federal nutrition dollars because it is so paperwork intensive and it impacts really their flexibility at it's so Carla's been able throughout the entire pandemic serve 500 meals a day long long meals on wheels and older meals on wheels which I'd be surprising to some of you was to me when we think about the population so they choose not to be working because of the paperwork and the institutions on the federal nutrition program are there just any local foreign products that still do some of these they get a lot of donations from some of those surplus products and interestingly enough I don't think Carla would mind me sharing you with this they have recently purchased the garage so they can actually store buy and bolt and store things and really a great way to reduce some of their costs so donate so donate to Meals on Wheels and actually the partnership the City of Vermont has agreed to and Meals helps them with those costs because they are housed here at no charge they do not pay water they do not pay electricity and they have office and cook space here so I was not able to provide them with storage on the site that would allow them for that full purchase stuff so they have done this model and supporting another local Longmont business which is great so they've been able to sustain and grow without those federal dollars we were trying to get some of the one-time money that's coming in through the nutrition program to support our meal programs in a different way doesn't require all the people to work so Carla and I are working with at your agency on aging and trying to get some of those dollars typically creatively and also just to tell you if you shop I know for sure at King Super's you can go on your account and have them use meals on the meals of dime for every dollar you spend or whatever the algorithm is so they get a little money that way I didn't know that I think everybody needs to share about that at Amazon Smiles we'll do the same thing so give several folks a review and they probably get a few dollars from King Super's purchases yeah exactly so if you ever interested in knowing more about meals on meals and how they operate and some of the things that we have to ask Carla to come I've asked her for a tour of the garage so pure this stuff so it's somewhere in Longmont there's a new business and I think they have sold all the garages they have and I just love the model so if you're a wood shop or car or whatever it's an option for I wonder if it will like that right off of the diagonal I forget what it's called it's called a green a workshop yeah there's different businesses that are in there that rent the space that would be a fun little drive to the garage it's so creative and because I know folks who work in New York City who rent garages like folks outside the city and there's different ways people so I just love it my mother-in-law does that for his business yeah because he lives in downtown where he's signed in a project so his business has this fall one out of a garage that he rents some place in New Jersey or something some place yeah not close to about yeah you mentioned having Carla come and I would like to live in New York for a couple of years now but I only see one side of it and I'd like to see where I fit in the whole picture I'd like to tell us about the garage she can tell you about it bring pictures any other new business I'm sorry will be has the oh sorry reports let me jump again okay reports Rachel so I think an important question we're so appreciative of the partnership we've had with one United Hospital for 20 plus years and so going forward our plan is to meet quarterly with UC Health one might United any healthcare organization and really start to plan in advance and really look at using a variety of healthcare partners both in education but also in services so it could be skin cancer screening it could be a class on heart health I mean whatever that is so we did have a really great meeting with several folks from UC Health recently we're excited about that partnership strengthening we are also continuing to build the lunch and learn programs through the silver sneakers program UC Health is very interested in reconnecting with us around their stepping on fall prevention program so I think you'll see things happening differently hopefully not less as we move that forward really appreciate that Longmont United as they they offered us things that they were not in need of and so it was a really great kind of change in our relationship and I appreciate Longmont United all they've done for all these years so looking forward and moving forward in a different way with our health programs we are still planning on opening the lunch room on Tuesday we understand that Boulder County Public Health will be holding a meeting tomorrow there could be some changes we'll see what those look like and how we adapt or employ those here in terms of the lunch room we are looking at just two people though we for a while we're not going to go full blown many groups here are asking when can we start doing refreshments and coffee again so right now our refreshments are sealed so single serving sealed no potluck kinds of sharing going on but we are planning on bringing back coffee pots so folks fill your glass and mine so we'll look at the coffee and tea can you use the outside also like you're saying two people per table isn't there a door or an entrance or something right there so folks can actually either eat in the dining room or grab and go and they could go on the porch they could come in here they could go outside there's definitely options for that so I would say our fitness programs have gone game busters and we have signs now we have a limit of 34 because we've been actually hitting and exceeding the silver sneakers required threshold so the fitness classes are going good we did trip registration on Thursday we had about half the people we normally had we usually get 120 and we have about 60 some show up one trip did fill I guess there is going to be a rapture piece at the botanic gardens and that was very very popular so we're trying to get more tickets and what not to that friend of mine and I she was over there so we're hoping we can add but so when people are signing up what that means after tomorrow I'm going to Ikea are you going to digital got your list you got to trailer I wouldn't drive all the way there so so you know it's the slow it's kind of like fits and starts right we open we pause and caution so how many large people have been very kind and thoughtful and thoughtful and appreciative we're also both too glad that again there's something happening so that was really kind of a morale booster I think for all of us for the SAC and for our customers who were interested that's going well kind of fair for me in the lunchroom are you talking about the lunchroom here they serve a hot lunch from 11.30 to 12 and many folks of course when we close started getting it home delivered but there have been people asking to come back two for cable and we have what 20 tables in there 17 you know how much it's a sliding scale but the asking price is 261 that's a lot of trouble it might have to though I mean it's all about experiencing food but again we're trying to keep it manageable the question have you heard anything about the COVID on Monday to see if we were going to do booster clinics at the Long Lawn housing sites the way we did the COVID shots and I'm waiting deeper back from Indira about that my understanding is there is some interest to do them on site at those four properties that we did a shot at but I also said they've indicated older adults as being a priority for boosters that if they wanted to use the senior center for a community-wide booster clinic for older adults I would be interested in being a part of that conversation as well so we're kind of looking at it from both sides at the independent housing sites and possibly here to increase interest in doing it so for most of the independent housing sites those boosters will be October, November at a time frame that would be many of us and maybe have some signage in the senior center encouraging our community to get their boosters so one of the things that I think the signage piece and I brought this up with all the time public health is when you got your COVID shots you may remember if you got them that they asked you had you had another vaccine and so with the push with whose shots right now and knowing that October, November many people will be doing their COVID boosters what is that relationship and should folks be thinking you're not getting the flu shots soon so I've asked for just some information you need two weeks between them well that's what they said before and I'm curious what they're going to say with this so I've asked for something more official coming from Boulder County Public Health or CDPAG around that relationship between flu shots and the booster you can begin your flu shots you can, yeah so we'll hopefully we're that's all coming the booster clinics are definitely where we've got the inquiry out we're waiting for your back so that along by a housing authority Janine's been a part of a group we've been doing appreciative interviews with residents at all the properties we came together last week and kind of put all of our notes together and I think it's very interesting and lots of themes and so the next step we'll be going back out and being with all the residents to talk about what we've heard and ask them to do some prioritization so that work with the housing authority properties is going forward and I would say most everyone I interviewed came prepared with their we're ready and I asked them to just hold their notes until we concluded the interview because it is an interview it's not a survey and most people felt like all their things had gotten addressed in their appreciative conversations and that was good and I would say got in large the feeling about the city being involved and the interview process was all possible that people were just so glad to be asked to do the so that's going well and we'll continue to move that forward and that's the senior services and City Council City Council last night was a study session and our introduction to the budget the budget was pretty satisfactory you know at first glance I think we had milestone not a milestone but at least the turning of the corner in terms of accountability on getting affordable housing projects through the process which has been a real concern for me you know that people are doing what we want in terms of what they're asking to build and then they can't get a building from it it doesn't necessarily look like a big accomplishment from last night but I believe that there was a turning of the corner I already mentioned good services and equity roster in terms of suppliers so that's an opportunity and I also would say that this budget shows you 24 climate change and I know several of us are really interested in that so you know I'm really hard to satisfy on that score so it's caused all of that yeah well I'm doing this for your grandchildren I don't have any but but yeah so nothing really earth-shattering but I think the environment I don't know if I could just butt in here on the equity piece Marcia and to the board so Carmen Ramirez and several staff Gedé and Francie have really been working on this city equity team and a lot of education is that something that would be of interest to you all is just to understand where the city is at with equity and the position Marcia just referenced and what's happening with that invite Carmen we love Carmen I think it's it's a totally an idea that Carmen's always been a leader and it's nice to see a different kind of traction so I'm just curious if you have an interest, I'd be happy to ask Carmen or that would be I think an important thing there is a lot of tension on the equity side and on the side because technocrats like me are saying must go faster must go faster and the equity advisors don't know the schools so and are really consensus oriented and it does take I mean it does create attention because I'm for example as out of it as anybody is left behind but my approach to not leaving behind is to get more lagging so as opposed to let's wait so that is I think one of the blindest problems that we have to solve the other thing that I would like to mention is that this is the third thing for our new public safety chief Zach and I had a conversation with the city council's guard on the way out last night and just how you feel and all that stuff and the guy was jumping up and down after three days he was just really excited and I think maybe all of us have felt like there's a lot mentioned in our public safety organization through the long transition that they've been through and believe that this is a crummy time to be a cop I mean no matter how you feel about what's been going on if you put yourself in the position that they're in this has got to be crummy so that's another thing I really want to talk about get a chance, pardon me he's a pretty young guy he is and speaking of equity he was reticent he was my top choice just on a checklist basis when we had our meet and greet and he didn't really stand out and I had my doubts that any candidate was real good I learned later that when Harold sent a team to his old city to find out the things about his record that he would make him be as innocent because he didn't want to out his old city but he had done amazing outreach to groups of color in each one individually different subculture individually and created a lot of means in terms of mutual communications and stuff so after that step hiring step, which was after we all participated then they were much more certain about that hire than they were he was just not willing to talk about it to the general public unless he actually had a position was that a process of going back to which kind of base on which kind of trip was that done more than one you know I don't know I think it was done with that was my assumption that they did I think that's a good idea it's a great idea because because there is such an ethical constraint on people talking about themselves in that particular position the other good thing about it is that I think it was the only one what are you really about for yourself? I'm just thinking about the public safety hiring process I think if the average individual understood the depths they go to in public safety a background financial they dig, dig, dig and so when they go back to a community positions they're digging and digging very very thorough and the time and investment and the hiring process is so huge that you hope people stick that's what I was smiling about their process is unlike any other it's just amazing and comforting to think about but for me the cap on the chairing on the Sunday was that a V-cop was happy about it so I thought I'd share that thank you the name when we this coming Friday could you report on August? Yeah it's always two days after this maybe I want to start out by saying we're in the process of assisting a friend to a major medical event and I need to take her her post-op visit on Friday and it part of it conflicts with the aerial imaging Zoom and so I'm asking if there's anyone here that would be interested in filling in for me it might give somebody a great opportunity to get a sense about what that's all about given that my time is coming to an end on the board and if anyone could do that it's nine to ten thirty and I can send them the access to the Zoom and they can just sign in and introduce themselves and say that they're there for me I will give you the agenda and it has the Zoom information on it, Sheila, but if you won I'll also send you my information and I really appreciate that. So for the meeting that was held on August 6 they proposed priorities for the aerial aging for 2122 and the focus is going to the community to advocate on policies and the legislature to identify gaps and services evaluate current programs and make recommendations for funding they are advocating heavily for the homestead exemption change the big issue is can't afford to downsize like they want to and carry their homestead exemption with them so that's the current legislative push that that can be altered without having to take it to the people for a vote they're focusing on the more affordable housing issue and big focus on the aging in place and modifications we talked about the cost of housing and what a stress that is currently to our community transportation how limited the services is but we're having problems not so much finding the funding for say but finding people again they're looking at maybe encouraging volunteer work in terms of transportation and also focusing on how limited it is in the amount of communities and focusing also on the reality that many seniors are moving here closer to family and we really need to be preparing for that this group has discussed the increase in the population for a long time but they're also looking at that and looking at their programs and preparing for extending their programs there was a presentation given by capable and it's capital C-A-P-A-D-L it's an aging in place organization that is offered through the Visiting Nurses Association and it's focus is on as people's health declines and they have a decrease in their ADLs they want to focus on how they can be supported and the three areas that they look at are home maintenance caregivers big issue and limited financial resources so they use a try disciplinary approach which is an occupational and a handy person that's a volunteer from either Habitat Humanity or Brothers redevelopment and it's an individual focus a person has to not have any disabilities in terms of mental capability they have to be an active part of this evaluation the evaluation lasts about 45 minutes assessments are made and then they discuss what's needed what can be done and how they're going to go about doing it right now it is funded with a grant so they can make these appointments and getting these evaluations done and getting new services now where funds are available and there is a limit of like $4,500 that can be put into any individual person's needs what is that called again? Capable so they can do incredible things with a bathtub so that people can have walk-in showers at not huge costs widening hallways and doors leveling their steps outside so they don't have big gaps in there in their steps so it goes a little bit beyond just caregiving in the traditional way that we take a look and again that's through it's capable through visiting nurse association colorado.com Medicare services they're looking at their specific Medicare services related to counseling and the SHIP program SHIP is the state assistance program they are looking at online classes and there is an organization voco.org that helps people with Medicare appeals and they're again pushing the volunteer programs that I wasn't available or I wasn't aware of at all and of course medical counseling available through Boulder County or so that was the focus of that particular community can I just add on to the Medicare piece so they are doing monthly Medicare classes here because they're getting about 30 people since they've gone online they think they're getting 80 plus because I'm a Medicare counselor it's like going down the gangbusters I also have to say that people are who are going on to Medicare now they're much more computer literate so one of the things that's changed is because I did it during the pandemic when I got usually Microsoft Teams they are already in the websites to they said look I just have to ask you when I be on the screen with them do I do this and I think the most confusing part of the whole issue besides what to do people don't want to take their social security so that's the point where they get confused do I have to take my social security and when you go on the website the government website is actually ECTON there's a huge thing about this picture on your screen that says Medicare only and that's where you're directing because they don't want to take their social security but that has really changed because more people are computer literate than ever before and I think the classes they really helped people navigate certain things and I would just say to Jeanine and to you Prudence because of your role what I am hearing from our staff that work with Spanish speaking seniors that they want in person they want in person one-on-one they want in person instruction by legally delivered in Spanish and so that your relay director sent it to several folks that it's bad equity we just had a meeting the other day and one of the things we talked about because I was surprised that they didn't use the language line because the translation lines I use one for work because there's a large Spanish speaking population I said you don't use a language line but you do and they said there's one person Karen Herrera who speaks Spanish and to me that's that good enough you need to get the language line because there's also believe it or not a growing population of people who speak Cantonese not Mandarin but usually the Mandarin speakers speak Cantonese some different regions and I had a viewer the guy in last year I said don't worry I'm from the Bay Area I can understand what he's saying you know he's speaking English we use the language line here I'm not sure why they really don't want to use the language line it's really easy to use we were one of our staff was out and a person was Russian speaking while we were Russian and just have language line on their phone and was able to convey what needed to be conveyed yeah it's really easy it's very easy and they have rare languages like Tonganese I try one last remember that but I'm still going to push they need to do but the in person is only one person who speaks Spanish it's also the in person component which has that relationship it's a different culture and that's what they need so we're going to keep saying it I agree there's a board vacancy if anybody knows of a person interested they're invited to check it out at the monthly meeting which is for Tuesday of every month at 3 o'clock at 4.30 no adult that would probably be good they they are working on the leaves in the lobby trying to update so that if somebody's relative where they donated money and they appear that they can easily find it and catalog it so that's been a whole project that they've been working on and they have increased the limit for requesting money moving approval used to be 500 due to COVID and all the needs they've just doubled it $2,000 some of it is reimbursed some of it is may not be so those were the main things from three last friends meetings some of them may have been at the cover band last Friday night and we had Don L. with the band here in Roosevelt Park that the friends paid for we had about 90 people signed up ahead of time but we had many more people who were just great we don't typically do tour concerts because it's usually covered but Larry had planned sort of as a COVID thing we can't do the concert inside let's do it outside anyways it was a beautiful night I know I didn't know that that was going to happen but yeah when you plan five months ahead it's not always easy to synchronize calendars but the friends did pay for that which was really great and I had written it down this what we've done in the team yes they had helped me with county commissioners last name what is this yeah I hope I don't have to say it again but anyway she actually spoke at our meeting and a couple of things that she talked about was the vaccination about 330,000 here in Boulder County and that they're at about 74.8% and want to get it up to 80% but it's just like everywhere else that they continue to work on those Marcia I also need your help on you know anything about the American Rescue Plan Act yeah that's the big cold central and she talked about that she's getting several million dollars and then the city is going to get some of their own monies for that and what all of that could be used for she just talked about cold health department they're not in a hotel well a big deal about that is there's a lot of money for people who are falling behind on their rent who are facing addiction now and so many people the money is there but they're having a hard time doing it in a way especially since I suspect everybody here knows that people who are on the outs with their landlord because of the nonpayment and stuff are really reluctant to face up to the situation but if they do they're going to get it all clear and and so just please anywhere you can outreach but especially there aren't tell them to seek housing assistance and the Boulder County Health Line is the place to start see and also the landlords can get money also so part of that money the landlords can apply mortgage assistance mortgage assistance I mean it's very very rich I think only 11% until billions of dollars have been taxied by the renters or the landlords the property owners because it's really kind of amazing and just like you know in Mississippi because there's an application of rental assistance in the United States zero zero one dollar it's important to know that we need to do some outlier amounts it seems to be much lower we don't know how much we're going to get here more than enough I mean Boulder here still more than enough and actually I think we do know how much I don't have it on my head but the people just aren't applying and yeah it's a scary situation I also did some back of the envelope math based on the percentages in this county the people who are behind on their rent and despite the fact that homeowners are saying there's going to be this huge wave of evictions it looks like in Longmont maybe 150 people are vulnerable and we can deal with 150 people not easily but I mean the money's there if they get evicted it becomes much harder because it's a cool thing well not only that if they bring leave which is pretty long on and they get that money so that they don't owe their landlord then it doesn't go on their permanent record as an eviction so they don't have that horrible hurdle to find getting their next place but the best solution even if you're annoyed with your landlord and your landlord is annoyed with you is say where you are and it's possible answer what was that oh it's the Boulder County health line and it's a 1-800 number but it's the first thing you see if you go to Boulder County for assistance aren't there any fear about being undocumented that is getting in the way of them applying for this assistance and if so there aren't there's no fears in terms of that being an issue and I think a lot of time that that just gets in the way of so many Hispanic community people taking advantage of programs it's not at all you need your address and something else if you pay the utility bill you can build yourself a utility bill or not a copy of release it's the fear of discovery right okay I've read the changes to the public charge concept that yeah I think that was exempted by the first day I think has been axed out by executive order because that was just an executive order there's been a long federal law for a long time and certain things were made up of public charge like WIC did not yeah WIC did not Medicaid does not now also other things I think nutrition still stays yeah but I know Medicaid doesn't another thing I just wanted to talk a little bit about is that they said that they're doing some research on their you know their employees with human resources they're looking at gender equity people of color bilingual things like that and probably some of this concerns also having bilingual people and the law and stuff like that pretty much quite well said that day but oh no one other thing is that they are doing COVID-19 testing at 11th avenue daily from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. and again encouraging people especially now with what's going on to go in there and get tested if they have any any concerns that's already and from what I understand they don't ask you to have any symptoms or whatever I guess they do it's just testing and they're just another thing of all of our best colleagues this morning and he told me that Wanda Mendoza is retiring in this county and they have an open house on September 24 from 12 before at Townsend Park and she was one of our board members. I'm an employee and she is currently a volunteer with our BILUS DGT at New York. So my understanding is the Boulder County Latino Coalition asked if they could continue to meet here and I believe it was conveyed to them that yes they can they said there was but there was no guarantee we could have the room of that size of that size so that was the assembly block well I don't know they were still I think at that point it was not totally clear we're going to be able to continue to meet if they would so I mean it's available I'll follow back up I think they were talking to Veronica but I know double checking to get back to you Veronica did say that my understanding was that we could continue to meet but if we wouldn't be able to be in the size of the room because we did quite a few that's great so I'll follow you thank you Jenny sustainability I know we're very limited in time and there's always lots to report with sustainability so I'm going to try to skip over some stuff just they have now got an air quality contract with Boulder Air for evaluation ongoing evaluation