 Next we're three three tomorrow makes no four this week call the public works meeting to order uh we'll do a quick roll call uh all the person born are you online here i am yes okay all the person parola here all the person saloglio present all the person salazar is she online no okay all righty um we'll start right out with the pledge of allegiance go with 2.1 approval of minutes from june 15th move to approve the motion to approve second okay motion made by jim second by marcus any discussion on those minutes all righty all those in favor aye aye any opposed chair votes aye the minutes are approved okay 3.1 resolution 24 21 22 june 29th 2021 direct referral a resolution authorizing the appropriate city officials to execute a permanent easement underground utility easements and a temporary easement between the city of shabuigan and its board of water commissioners that is specific that are specific to the new raw water improvements project okay direct to be able thank you mr chairman uh really this evening um is part of this this process um and the project moving forward affecting the uh volrath park what we need to do as a committee is uh have this referred from the public works committee to the marina parks and forestry commission okay for the review and recommendations and though for uh therefore and then their recommendation will come back to this committee eventually for your review and uh ultimately um action on their recommendation to forward it or not to forward it and our approve it or not to approve it and so forth that will be your decision after they've met um and then ultimately back to common counsel so that would be the proper thing is to make it uh send it to the marina parks and forestry commission for for their review okay move to uh refer this to the marina parks and forestry commission second motion made and seconded is there any discussion on this i've got a just a procedural question on this then um was it just an oversight that it came to us as a direct referral or does it have to come here first get referred and then come back it's my understanding is part of the procedural process of common counsel they're not a standing committee this document had to come to a standing committee such as public works then it gets from your committee from under your direction to be referred to the marina parks and forestry commission which is advisory to ultimately this commission uh this this standing committee thanks a bunch okay all right any other discussion all those in favor aye hi hi any opposed chair votes aye that is approved we are moving it on 3.2 resolution 25 21 22 june 29th 2021 direct referral a resolution authorizing the purchasing agent to issue a purchase order for the purchase of one bobcat brand tool cat tool carrier vehicle and related attachments for the department of public works motor vehicle fleet burning thank you mr chairman uh bobcat tool cat vehicles are very very flexible vehicles they have a lot of attachments that can be used uh to do the various jobs that the parks department and the motor vehicle and then department of public works does uh we have a another unit and i'll i'll call it a mini front-end loader that was bought in 2017 it was found that that that machine does not have the capability that a tool cat has it's very limited on what it can do for the department so what this resolution is is to authorize the purchase of a tool cat and trade in that wacker newson mini end loading we've researched the trade in value that the dealer has offered and it's a fair and equitable offer based on other market data that we've been able to to find um one of the things that that front-end loader did or does have it's it's a very narrow stance and a high center of gravity which means that it's a little bit unstable tool cat is a very stable unit sits two across and as i said the department already has a number of other attachments in addition to what comes with the tool cat that can be used with that machine the funding is net funding after the trade in would be 25,881 51 that'll be coming from the motor vehicle fund mr chairman yes go ahead jim i would make a motion to approve second motion made by jim seconded by marcus any discussion on this at all mr chair go ahead so i assume this is the only um wacker newson that you have right that's the only one that is um that you want to replace correct yes okay and was this in uh in the cip or didn't need to be it this is not in the cip this is this is part of the operational fund for the motor vehicle since since we're it's a replacement of an existing type vehicle that's why we're trading this one in and replacing it with uh a similar but more versatile piece of equipment and we have already two of these types of units in our fleet and as approach to the agent bernie romer mentioned it has multiple attachments that we already have in our fleet for instance a uh mechanical broom uh front end uh scoops it has snow blower attachments there's also auger attachments so there's multiple pieces that we're able to attach so when we purchase this we're not needing to buy all the other attachments since we already have them it's not the wacker newson machine was a one specialized unit and it really didn't meet our needs and it wasn't nearly as functional we love the nice narrow width because it did help during the snow season on some of our narrow sidewalks in that but uh to have that for just one specialized uh operation it just wasn't very effective use of that piece of equipment or resources with this new bobcat that we would be purchasing the tool cat excuse me thank you director um I just was wondering the um I just I'm trying to understand what is it comes out of the cip that we already are familiar with and what it doesn't yeah this that when we when we when we develop the cip that we usually will have a replacement schedule that we will have and it will list these types of pieces of equipment are on schedule to be replaced this is this what I would say is because we're coming to the committee this evening is this would be uh not planned replacement uh it was it was an opportunity that we saw that this was an underutilized piece of equipment we worked with the purchasing agent looked at the opportunity to trade in and get some value for it while it was relatively newer and had low hours because these this type of equipment is based on hours not mileage and as a result we're able to maximize getting that early higher value by trading this piece of equipment in versus waiting another five years hanging on to it and then having it more depreciated and having less value and having more expense in terms of a replacement perfect thank you um I guess one of the question I had a comment I guess the one thing I saw it's a little the tool caps are a lot more safer to operate than this one is and that's our concern as well we've we've had some issues where narrow areas and the machine has tipped over and some operations and it's as I said it's it's a narrow articulated front end loader it's a mean and and basically again it's very limited in terms of what we can use it for in our operations any other comments all righty all those in favor aye aye any opposed chair votes aye that is approved okay 3.3 ro 35 21 22 june 21st 2021 document 3.5 our communication from charles paul regarding seagulls nesting on the roof of the old pick and save building this is a discussion only yeah the seagulls are very noisy and there's a lot of mess from the birds droppings all over and even sometimes at 1 30 in the morning they're still making noise and there's other people in the neighborhood that are concerned about that too and you know the nest seagulls have to nest someplace but picking that spot there it's causing a problem with the neighborhood and uh um manager from lake charles doesn't like it there either and I maybe should get more people to come or something to voice their opinion maybe on this um I guess my question and I also talked to the I was told to talk to the d and r so I called the d and r and then he told me that they could probably put up a netting or a screening but you'd have to do it in fall to prevent the nesting to start spring because you can't do anything once the eggs are there yeah right now currently I know I because I deal with it and it's been that way for like three years now it has to be done yeah and you're going to chase them away there and then you're going to go somewhere else um what was that wasn't there something done previously at all was there well that one time they chased them away from where the field was or pretty wiggly they got them away I mean they're even with pick and save I thought that they did do something last year what yeah they did there's not be mayor vanderstein called me and told me they did something but this year they're back didn't change they came back they come back in spring when they lay but the nest sounder and eggs then you can't do anything because of being a migratory bird so they came back have we contact you go ahead thank you mr chairman I was just going to ask the gentleman if our new garbage system has helped with the seagull problem because I drive down south business drive quite a bit and compared to a couple years ago I certainly haven't noticed the number of seagulls that were there previously so I guess my question is if there are less numbers do you think our new garbage system has had an effect on that well the guard the seagulls used to be by the garbage cans by my knowledge time and across the street but now that we have the cans covered it's kept the seagulls away from there but it they still go to pick and save building they don't come to the garbage cans anymore that was nice I'm glad they put those cans up that worked real well mr chairman I with your recollection I think is correct was a couple of years ago that I think the owner of that store was going to take some continuing actions to take care of the problem how was it last year last year we didn't hear anything about it I think it was the previous year that it was really bad do we know does does maybe the director know whether the owner of that building has done any done anything this year is going to do anything as time goes forward okay Dr. Riebel yes actually the the the owner has been active and they've contracted with migratory bird management and for instance they they sent us some information and I know our city planning development and our building inspection department has been very active with with the owner of this property to make sure that they're being active and addressing this so they they do actually have have been working with the the dnr and understand that they have a permit and what they've done is I'll give you an example that as of last year in 2020 they they did quite a bit of nest removal for for instance some of some of the counts they had in 2020 they removed in May the month of May alone almost 3000 nests and in June over 700 nests now in this in 2021 this spring April 26th they only removed 20 nests that's all they could find it on the roof then in May it getting later and in spring and more more nesting is occurring they removed 250 nests again in May later in the month 235 so roughly almost 500 in the month of May were in 2020 was over 3000 and in June their last one in June they removed 195 in my understanding is they're going to be coming out later this week or next week for sure big giving ads a holiday week to do another inspection and removal so they've been active it's just not it's not every day they they they make their weekly bi-weekly visits and and they're active on it I will I will say that you know we we fully admit that there's there is seagulls and it is a problem and it's a new sense there's no doubt about it we're experiencing it right here at City Hall Mike Wilmas and his team have been deploying measures and are working with a group to also try to deter this activity from happening it's being on a coastal community as we are and it's one of those things but I do have to admit with with at least from my personal observation as well throughout the city I have not seen the number of seagulls at least being a nuisance and the garbage I think that the cans that we have have deterred and it's taken away quite a bit of food source so I think you know the nesting as maybe it's indicated here on the roof it's really dropped which is a good thing I think we're trending in the right direction it doesn't solve the immediate problem I get but it's being active I mean they're working at it and I guess you know as long as we're we're aware of it and we can continue to work with the management and the ownership of that that property and and be more active in trying to deter this that's that we'll continue that dialogue but I just wanted to give you some of those numbers that they sent us the director of planning and development sonification but he gave us this information so we at least we could share it with you this evening okay thank you director I guess that's my you know I know you know there are limitations of what you can do too the DNR does not just allow you to just go in there and you know I mean I'm even surprised that they're allowed to take the nests out I know that they're they're very very I mean if once the eggs are laid they're pretty much oh go ahead my understanding they don't they don't necessarily take the eggs necessarily but they they there's a process of they they do it usually like a vegetable oil of them they put in they keep their stick they remain in place and that's part of the problem is is that it if maybe if you were allowed to remove them that would maybe then they would go somewhere else but since they're there what they just do is they just don't hatch then yeah but they remain in place you're right you can't remove them physically yeah I know there's a lot of there's a lot of rules with that and so you know you have to follow on the but it does sound like they are being proactive they are working on it you know it's not maybe the answer you want to hear but they have to follow they have to follow the guidelines they can't just you know you know they can't just go and shoot them or something like that they have to be there has to be it has to follow a certain you know they're they're protected species I know you might say well why is they are why are they protected there's a gazillion of them but they are they're they're they're a protected species and they they can't be there has to be a process that they have to follow and it sounds like they are working on it and I'm sure that the the owner of that building is even frustrated with it himself because he's you know have to deal with I'm sure this isn't cheap to have this company go up there and do that I mean if they're moving all these nests and stuff again I'm guessing it's costing them some money but I guess at this time I don't really see this is a discussion only anyways I don't know if there's anything I guess we're going to continue to work with with the owner of the property and we'll work with our building inspection staff and continue to work with this management company and we'll we can report on the next next progress to see if it's if it's improving or what's the trend yeah but from from at least from last year to this year it's it's vastly improved at least in the number of nests how and I guess if we can continue in that direction and if it's improving we'll continue to to have a dialogue we have the gentleman's full number and in contact information and and we can make sure that the proper staff continue that dialogue okay I I think that that's reasonable I think that's the best I mean that that's the that's the best course action right now is to just keep it keep going where we're going I mean it sounds like we're moving in the right direction I mean I know it's frustrating but at least there is there is look it sounds like there's light at the end of the tunnel and it may not be totally gone this year but at least it's a start so all right Mr. Chairman go ahead Jim I was just going to mention being that this is a document I think a motion to file would be in order and I would make a motion to file second motion to file made and seconded any other discussion on it all those in favor I I any opposed chair votes I we will file all right next meeting date and we're gonna be meeting next time hopefully we're planning on meeting at the municipal building back in the old we're gonna go back to the old way unless anyone has any this is that publicly available do you have oh fantastic so we're going to be going back to the back to the meeting room down there so if anybody has any questions or anything like that unless something would change well but right now we're going to go go with that so I would entertain a motion to adjourn move to adjourn second motions made and seconded all those in favor I I any opposed chair votes I we are adjourned thank you very much thank you I want to let you guys know that next weekend when the floor is the next week of the unveiling