 It's a work of art. Are we ready for those of stars? I'm not dancing in the same way. Yeah. If there's a word for it, I can't put the word as a word. Right. It's a story. It's a story of how everyone can get into the same. All in the same way. It happens in a fascist rally as well. All right. We will spend more time. They all crowd at the same time. And sigh. And so do they feel they're together in this. Yup. This is a work of art. All right. Now I got started. We will read the module while we are here. The module while you're on the chair. The module while you are on the chair. And you will have to read the module. Thank you. Thank you. To lead you full-body. You'll have to pull up four more days. It will lead you full-body instead of three. These are good things for you. They hit you three after that. I'm just thinking. Oh, no. I'm happy to have to read. Time. One, two, three, four. It's a lot of mistakes. Okay, so let's see. We have four. Okay, so pass me one, two, three, four. Can everybody find out if you're a swiper or a sticker? Yes? Okay. No, if you're not a swiper or a sticker yet? Are you a swiper? You tell me if you're a swiper or a sticker. I was a swiper. I'm a swiper on my own. I have no idea. Okay, don't run away. Some sit down. Okay. Lara is a stick in the water. Before we get started, welcome to your birthday on The Draw at the Ink & Boy Dairy. Yeah, without any necessity, you will all be employed. Sorry. Here are the name tags. Here's the name tag. Okay. They're gonna be a sticker. So you know. Here's your sticker. Here's your sticker. Okay. All right. Here's your swiper. Okay. I just want to show you. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right. Again, it's not typically my level to distract you all. You need, but this is the necessities that you need to do yourself. Okay. You don't have a job yet, but you're taking notes starting. You can think anymore. Okay. Swipers. Stickers. Okay. So. Swipers. You're working on the front side. Okay. Stickers. You're working on the back side. Okay. Swipers. Okay. Okay. Okay. Your job as swipers is to find that date after going in the 1, 2, 3, first paragraph. Please join us. You are swiped at Thursday or Sunday, October 6 through 9. Here you go. And then you're going to set it to the side and kind of give it a little bit of you might want to, when you scan for your staff room or staff office. Yeah, staff room very much because it just needs a second to kind of make up. This is not signed. This should just fit and you should be able to just go whoop, move on. Attention is overrated. James's art is going to be the third grader's backpack and they're not even going to look at it because what we want you to see is stickers. You are on the back side. From the back side, under join Artists by Military there is a wear and a pay. You're moving to a singer and singing it over the top. He is not going to be your victim. Professions are overrated. Okay. I like your fashion. I like fashion is overrated. I'm sure it's not overrated. Yes, I think so too. It will be even better. I like that. I like that. So we're just going to stick them on and then when you're done, we're just going to keep it to ourselves. And at a certain point we're going to find a friend, stick her by a swiper, put her by a singer, switch and keep doing it. If you want to switch your job he is going to say, don't tell a swiper. Just say he's a swiper. One is swiped, one is dead. And then you might fall for it. People who have just arrived and have not realized your red and green dot situation. I think there's one and two. You have red and green dots. You have red and green dots before you start your job job. Your first job is to go over and look at the books that were sent along. And I want you to think of what are the public places that have a vision statement or a slogan or not a print? No, no. But a statement tagline on your graphics or your filter. What? Which one? Your red is your heart, one that you love the most. It is not. I like that. But your red is your heart. Dot away. In the meantime, yes. And thank you for working the music of today. Your checks of the mail. Working the candy bag. Actually, they don't want it on the road. All right. Madam Chairwoman, that is, I think, a break. Is that part of this? This is part of it. Good. And then the last piece of this. I think it is what you want to work now. I'm officially I'm sorry. And then call the meeting to order at 6.09. I think I pretty much got everybody on the world call OK. We should probably read them out for the sake of our video brandy then mail. Handleback Stephanie Nettie Jennifer I'm guessing two public. Three or no? We have one. Yes. Please send me email OK. So we're listening to Laurel and Iris. And I'll let you use it. OK. So public. Name Your name? Yeah. I hear you say haven't made it to that or not. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry, I want to tell everybody, I've been in a lot of trouble hearing this, I'm sorry, your name again was Marla N. A. R. Are you just a guest or did you have something to say? Okay, yes. So you're going to get a chance to look at the last month's meeting minutes? Very changes, corrections, questions, any motions to approve? We have three last month's meetings. I second. All in favor? Aye. Additions to the October 20th agenda? Yes. I need to please add an item 13 called emerge remediation and then subsequent items, new business and commissioners comments will move down appropriately. I'm not seeing a manager of the item I have to add. It's not here right now. Sister Cities project update. So, Joey Bliss was very, very excited to receive news and welcome the project. She has reviewed the contract and attended her city attorney's office and she says that it's in the mail, which is very, very news. She also said that she has already ordered materials, so that means that she's working. The color palette for the piece, we will need to revisit because one of the things that the selection panel had said, I should have brought it to visual, but the seats are kind of a rainbow color. So, we'll need to revisit those colors. You can expect that. The exterior? The exterior is saying the same blue color, but we don't have to make that decision at this moment. Okay, I see. I think the coloring is less than that. So, we have a goal. I need to make sure that we are under contract with her before we go with that. Boat project update? Alright, you guys are probably, folks are going to probably need to take a break from your part labor. I know. See, isn't this fun? I'll just cut right to the chase. So, if anyone has been over to, and I don't have, I don't know why I didn't go to the pictures, didn't I? I made such a picture. I know. Not working. They're already a computer. They're not working. This computer is not working. Anywho, if you've been over, you've seen the mural that is now complete, that is now sealed, and the changes that were made. More hummingbirds were added. But also, this yellow swoop came down and has extended down in this other area. Also, I think that's the orange one. Uh-huh. Yeah, right, on the other side. So, it looks fantastic. And then a number of you came out to meet AJ, and to give the thumbs up approval before we see him. So, thank you for making your way out there. That was wonderful. The second phase of the project, as you'll recall, is this optical, he called it, AR Actual Reality, which is this binocular system. The binocular system was put into a delineated line item in the budget in his existing budget. So, those dollars are already allocated. After further review and spending time in Long Island and looking at it from afar, AJ has come to us today to say that he does not think that this is a wisely supervised. It's anywhere between 10 and 20% of the budget, which is $6,000 to $12,000. So, I appreciate him being cognizant of the fact that this isn't maybe the wisest use of funds. So, he is coming to you with an alternate proposal, which would mean an amendment to the contract and a reallocation of the funds within the existing budget. So, he's not asking for more funds. So, if you go inside from the alleyway into the spoke room, you need to step down. This is where you step down, and there's this brick bit on the left. Then, you kind of keep walking in, and there's the bike racks and everything. Then, there's this wall. So, he says, wow, that's a nice wall. So, he drafted that, and it's sent in alone. And I said, well, number one, we're greatly impressive, but at the same time, this is very much not the norm. Once you enter into an agreement in contrast to somebody on their proposal, that is what you do with the contract. But I appreciate the fact that he's being cognizant of each of the funds. So, I asked him what all of this would entail, and he will not only be doing, so the orange is the outline, right? So, it's that kind of catiwampus diagonal wall, and then the flowers will be part of an AR augmented reality with your phone. And the flowers will bloom. And so, if part of the new contract would be, or the amendments to the contract would be one year's worth of him paying for the subscription for a thousand views a month. That's a lot. And then we have to figure this out of what the ongoing situation would look like if he keeps the contract for like a hundred views a month for some number of years, or if art and public places will have to enter a service agreement with the animation software. So, basically what you're saying is that you look through your phone and the flowers bloom, but if you don't look through your phone, they're not there. No, they're there. They're there, okay. They're animated if you have to download the app. Yeah, obviously, we would have somewhere that you could as a QR code, the QR code would need to do the app, you'd have to download the app, and then you can just come and come or something. Yeah. There's plenty of options to do your app. Yeah. I wanted to ask you about the new app now. So, like, you know, the insurance that I sent you out. I don't know if I wrote this to you or not, but my daughter, my friend and I went out with my daughter. And it is very high. You really want to crank your tap, right? To see it. And there's another level below that that looks like it could be a campus. So, all of this. Right at the entry point. It's like right at the entry point where this is, is where I was thinking. Where I was talking about. Oh, you mean that? No, like, so. Around the corner? Yeah, okay. So, if you're seeing it, let's just see if you're seeing it, and you've got the whole thing up here, right? And then you've got the whole thing here. And then there's, like, a strip over the tour entryway into there. So, you'd be standing out here. Let's see. Yeah. You'd be standing out here at the alley. It's right above where that is. So, you can't see that from the street, or you can't see the line. So, I mean, you can see it between walking and the breezeway. Well, yeah, the alley. You can't see it from the alley, but, you know, the line would save the main street. Yeah, you know, with the breezeway, it actually would be nice to put it up in there. So, oh, I do know what you mean. Yeah. So, look at the pictures that I said. So, the most important aspect of this whole conversation lies on the fact that we don't own this building. Yeah. So, we have to get an easement agreement, and an easement agreement has to go through city council, and the building owner has agreed to what we've already done, and is agreeable to this. Right. Okay. Do you remember, I don't know if you remember, when we did the, God, my brain is not working, forgive me, when we did the presentations for this building, we had a gentleman, and he came to us. It's right there. It's that spot right there. When you're walking down the alley, and then there's a breezeway. This is, this breezeway case is south, right? So, anyway, we asked the building owner at that time, that side, right? This side here? Yeah. So, we asked them if they would include that in the easement. But Lauren has gone back to them, and now, why? I'm telling you, because that is by far the most visible, the most attractive. I could not agree more. But. Yes, in fact, my daughter and I were like, it's such a shame. It's kind of a loss of opportunity. Yeah, even when we went into the top of the cruise, we were like, no, it's kind of hard to see. Yeah. No, it's not easy to see. So, that being said, so matter of hand, it's that they don't agree. Again, they don't ask me why. Not this, actually. Right? But this and that, they will agree. Tidy to get the easement through city council is not a quick process. If you are agreeable, and this is the direction that you would like to go, then I will get it on the city attorney's agenda and we'll try and get it, the easement agreement done by the end of the year. And then he's ready to be pretty much right. Very good question. So the city attorney said that we can do one of two. We can amend the existing agreement, which is faster from people's point and then getting it in queue, but from collections management. And for the Angela and Eileen of the future, in managing legal businesses, the two easements, he's cleaner. So he gave us the option that I look at you. I can't really agree, because they're sort of removed. Particularly the kids in years who are not going to make this into a time institute, because they're exposed when it's not. Yeah. So the terms are going to be the same, which is good, right? So when it comes to that legality piece of it, I don't think it's going to be as hard. The other thing is we probably will amend the far existing, because some liberties were taken. Creativity? I never have the right. And this is the easement. And this was painted. So where we... Now, basically, does it probably make that big of a deal? No. What is it the right thing to do? The right thing is the right thing. So anyway, we'll probably have to go back to legal when we are the other. So the question at hand, of course, is twofold. Number one, as a commission, if you would like to accept or deny the artist's proposal for amending his existing contract to apply the designated dollars for the binocular system to a new mural with one year of 1,000 views per month. That's the agreement at this time. Knowing that Art in Public Places is going to be responsible for some amount of ongoing maintenance for the views or not. Or not. So it can just be something you can do for an error in your time. So, one of the Daniels selection, who doesn't sell the selection? Randy. Okay, so let's hear from you two about what you think that is. Hey. I'm really disappointed you're selling. Oh, really? Yeah, I'm not. I just love this. I think it's really beautiful. But that's not the concept I would agree on. And I understand taking the binoculars and utilizing them to be just fine. That was part of the reason why I really love that piece to begin with, was to be able to add that difference. So to me, this is completely hidden. I don't think you're going to get a lot of recognition from that unless you decide to go that are actually leaving those apartments, which is totally fine. But also I worry about the cost of being forward after that the most. I think if he didn't just leave it and left it as is without that extra piece, maybe, but I also feel that, is this even a possibility to just be able to just get that money back? Potentially, because we can do the license something just like this in a more public space in my eyes where I don't know. I just feel, I feel like this is a very, I'm really fortunate part of it. Because personally, I would choose different artists. Just knowing the design and the where, the concept of where I was going. But that's just me and my opinion. No, and that's the one that's definitely great because that's just a very valid point. Like when you start breaking person, what does the contract mean? Devil's Advocate is right on a breezeway. So if people park in there, they'll come for a public parking. They can just walk right through there. So this building is public parking. There's public parking in the building. It's not just, that's a parking garage for public fans. Yeah. Also, being on the selection field, I was, I mean, the, but not so many things. I thought it was a piece of idea. I'm not sad to see it go. I know it'll get damaged. I'm not going to put it in a terminal. Can you speak up just a little bit? Yeah, I'm not sad to see that thing go, necessarily. Because I know that you probably have problems now. I like the idea of the mural inside the garage. I don't think it needs to be AI, but I do like the idea of a lot of, yeah, it's kind of new. I think that's a new project also. I think that because we are contractually bound to this artist of this project, that the dollars are about to be in our comfort period. So I think we're out of, I have to refer back to, again, policy and procedure is the way we need to go. So it's this or that model. It's about the second row of the most program. The building was under construction when you agreed to the contract. The building was under construction when we agreed to the contract. And the easement agreement happened while construction was happening. But to be fair about the easement agreement, there's a lot of cooks in that kitchen. So this is my theory. I'm in our history person, not for the explanation of how this works, but you have Boulder County Housing Authority who, I believe, in time will eventually like, own this bit for a moment. Boulder County, which the housing authority offices in, and it is also affordable housing, et cetera, et cetera, and public parking, et cetera, et cetera. The county owns the building. The county doesn't pay for the building upright. Of course, there's a money man. So the money man is the one who also has vested interests at this point. So within their own construction, agreeing to what things are going to look like and before the designs are blessed and all of that, it goes up and it comes back down. All these power people look at it. And then the county tells us, yep, we agree. And then the city and county have an agreement ourselves too. So there's a lot of moving parts. So the fact, again, that we executed the first easement agreement took a long time. And the fact that we have, again, spit and handshake that they will execute. This easement agreement for this is pretty far down the road because it's a long time to get down. So I think it's pretty hard now because it's a long time. And again, the dollars on this project are in comfort, right? So these dollars have been allocated and are contracted with others. So one way or the other, extracting the dollars, like getting our money back, that's not possible. Is it possible to have them do some work without saying a no to someone else? Is that possible? To Danielle's point, I think she does make a good point. This is where I love it. I would approve myself personally. But I do hear what she's saying. Yeah. And whether we used it, I mean, that's the disappointment about this whole project. Yeah. It's kind of, it's like a two-story. It would be nice if we had a place to put it where it would be really visible. So I think if the commission here agrees that there's not emotions that we made on this, we table it. And you give me a direction on where we're going to go. Probably multiple goals to continue to investigate what the easement agreement would look like. So I don't lose traction here. But also to figure out the square footage that this is so that we understand how far those dollars could go for a mural. And then I'm thinking out loud. So I'm thinking about, I also hear what Danielle is saying about spending a thousand dollars per year on an artwork. We don't know how much it would cost. That's not good. But also investigating what that would look like. Yeah. So it sounds like we need to see what was going on. Actually, it's simple information. And then also to kind of move across those things. I feel like I can see like this was where we even are going. This piece is totally great. And I guess to me, I think even allowing him to pay for a year would be great. But it was letting that happen and go so naturally. But I don't think that should be necessarily put up on us to guarantee that we're going to continue to use that. So I feel like looking into that app, it would be a little bit, give us a little bit of an understanding of like if we don't use it for five years, we're going to be able to bring that like energy back. You know what I mean? Well, and also if we ever got more murals and we wanted to animate and do more AR in the future, is this the company that we want to have service agreements with? Absolutely. Okay. So my directives then are to figure out the square footage of this and at least have any to understand the exact dollar amount that we're talking about. I also need to continue on the easement agreement and work continue to work with the city attorney's office to see what amending the contract is still going to look like anyway. And I need to understand the cost for the AR application. And we need to, I'm looking at the selection panel, but frankly as a commission, we need to be looking around town. So the city doesn't own a lot of buildings. So one thing about the app I was going to say is, you know, is it subscription or just for this? Or is the city fine? Like is the city happy about a seat? And a certain number of seats, you know, it sounds like it's sold by views. What does that mean? Is it used for yours or is it? I think so because he, so he'll be able to answer a lot of that because he did all of that work with Fiddler's Drain and all of those are related. So far. Are they popular with the animation? Like is this something everybody's like? I'll send that to you all as well. It's not just a statement for me. I'm just like, well, you have to, but I'd rather have another mural than an animation. So then he's done it before and that means he's researched. He's researched that animation companies. That's what I would make because he seemed great for a long time. Well, needless to say, this is going to happen. It wasn't going to happen quickly anyway. So we'll just look at this as phase two. Do we want then to dedicate this boat wall without the second phase? Without it? So we need to dedicate it to your other family? Yeah. I think that's a approval on our briefing that he's done there. So we've got the approval for going down below where we... No. I have to go back to city to remember that name. We have to amend that. That he's meant to meet. I might not put in your own vote. Can I just? Yeah. The saddest thing is that I wish to work now is a little... I also would challenge everybody to go over there. Between now and next month. Please go and visit. Totally possible. I can also ask Lauren if she works for Goldie County Housing Authority. If she has any freeing. That's great. Traffic data of how many people go through that for this way. Because maybe our thought of how many people use that versus how many people actually do. And also on Kaufman Street in Chiquita, I'm going to look at you real quick. That's that whole transportation. There have been a heck out of all of that. And that's going to be major bus in pedestrian and bike thoroughfare. They're tearing that up next year, right? I mean, it is. That's not a if it happens. That's a when it happens. Kaufman Street from like second all the way to Roosevelt is going to become a massive bus, pedestrian, and bike, massive bike lane. They're taking out all of the diagonal parking. That's one of the reasons that this parking garage and structure was approved in the first place. Because all of that, they knew all that parking was coming out. All along Kaufman from like second all the way up to like Roosevelt. It's turning into massive bus and bike lanes. So all along Kaufman there, there's going to be transportation madness and so forth. So anyway, my point is I guarantee that somebody who is a traffic people here in the city, or more than herself, will have some quantification of what, how much traffic potentially this breezeway receives currently and it will be receiving once that. I wish I had it. Okay, so if you, when you come, when you come down the stairs like this is, so the breezeway and Los Arcos is across here. The distillery is on the left. You walk down here. That's all of the bike things. Then there's the bike lockers and you continue to walk here and it goes up to Kaufman. And if you're a car coolness to park in this garage, you come in and you turn right in, you turn left, left into here, and then that takes you up to the parking in your garage. And then if you're walking here, the offices for Boulder County Housing Authority are on the left. So this is basically a pedestrian thoroughfare between Kaufman and Main Street through that breezeway. And when our public place is arched, that's right there. Yeah, Los Arcos is right there. Yeah. Okay, well, so I think I have my margin orders. If anybody thinks of anything, let me know. I'll probably send email updates, kind of as a blanket, especially if we get our thumbs down, like no, that's not going to happen or yes, but you know, I'll send you that. So our direction changes significantly. And then, yeah, if you're going to visit it. Yeah. Just one comment. I think that this project has to mature up and we have to, and the reason I say that is because we really don't know what's going on in the winter and it could be a whole different story. So I think a year or year and a half of this, of the things we're all looking for is going to tell the truth. It's going to be quite different. I mean, I understand that the best place to see it from, from two groups or groups will just close in the winter. However, when those streets don't have leaves, it's going to be a whole different story. So I think it's going to be a different story over there. And I think we need to observe it through a couple of seasons and see. The best place to view it is coming up in the breezeway. The best place to see it is walking in. If you go to visit it, the best place to see it is from when you're walking in the alley. And I don't remember what that theater is, these people. It's the Trojan. Yes, the Trojan. They're giving a grant to redo all their old neon and they're trying to reactivate. They're like back entry and they're working with the distillery. So this alley is kind of getting hit. Right. Right. So it's an effective question. If Boulder County Housing Authority can give us a quantification of pedestrian traffic that they are expecting over the next couple of years, it could be at least a little bit of a crystal ball into you know, if this is, if suddenly these lockers and these bike racks are totally full, that changes this a lot, right? Well, there's a lot of traffic there, but the one thing I do is like I just leave my things at wall and just like finish them out there. I really do understand that. We'll have a, we'll put the protective sealant on. I mean, I think the bikes are, the racks are set back and on. Yeah, they have, yeah. I think that nobody would just be in their life against a wall. I don't know. Do you have, do you know, I thought that was part of the thing. Yeah. The little wells that are not in Twin Peaks that are whatever the mall is called, it's called Rocking. Yeah. Those little wells, right? It's so cool. The building will allow us to put just like one on that outside and just follow my back on the outside wall, of course. And it says like come see Pierrot or something, like come down the way. We can talk about these mid-agreements, but again, I can't stress how, like, again, it seems like a simple thing of this city and the county, shake the hand and everything's cool. Like, that's not half bad. I think when we go to look at this in the next month, if you're standing in the alley or on a property that you didn't walk in by, I think you can see that long. And if it was full bright colors, I think your eye would be trapped if you went to the store to look at it. I mean, it's going to be, I don't think it's completely individualistic. I think that there's use. I think it's visible from the outside. Not the whole thing maybe, but you're able to see part of it and say, well, what's that? Would it be something that we could add to the fighting? Fight that? Yes. The pedestrian bike ride? Yes, 100%. So this bike map needs to be redone, right? And it's on just definitely something we need to work on and not make it just big. So when you're riding your bike, you're like, hmm, where am I? That's only between the others. So anyway, this has happened. And in fact, the bike folks in our public places, it's going to be in our public places centered map and the bikes will have their own centered map. I also suspect that if buses are stopping and they are going to be stopping, people are going to get off. If they want to go to Main Street, this is going to be comfortable. Okay, I'll also find out where the bus stops are. I'm sorry, we spent way too much time on that. I mean, we're talking about a fairly significant portion of this budget. And again, I commend the artist for actually having the bus. Because what's the easiest thing to do? The easiest thing to do is pull the trigger, buy your product that you promised, install it and be done with it. So, I mean, I think I was going to show you where he definitely had that love on. Kind of got steel in him. I forgot to tell you. I'm so sorry. I almost said to you exactly what he said. He chose Moses because of Roosevelt. I figured that was right where my head went 100%. He went and he was lunch, every day on his lunch. Because I guess his grandma was here or something. Grandma? Anyway, so that's where he was going on lunch. So that's why he chose him. I love that. It's very thoughtful. Yeah, it's great. Maybe you're right. Yeah. There's, it's become a go-to place. The River Norn Art District in Denver. Because it is full of murals, fabulous murals. Maybe you can get online and find a way out for the best in all numbers. You can go down there and you can walk around and then go get a destination for that. And I was thinking, if this is the area where there was something like that and it was, you know, it's a great place to come see it. Well, and also to remind you, once we get through our City Council, our charter changes, and once we're a gift, we have that availability to start doing that public, private, mural program with grants for private businesses, then we have a greater opportunity to help fund murals all over the city with building owners, right? And so I think that there's, you know, we budgeted for that in 2023 with the anticipation that we're going to be able to execute that. So we're our number of muralists, but also communities telling their own voices and their own stories of what's happening in their own neighborhood with brown businesses and buildings that is intrinsic to that area of the lawnmower is going to be. So we have it. Do you have to march toward us? Do you need anything else from us? No, I don't think so, but just we are sitting in it, and no one has the strong desire to make lawn mowers. Alright, yeah. Okay, moving on to number nine, Shockard update, Brandon, hit me. I'll tell you what I know. I grew up by watching in my house and one of my poles was fine but not started. No, she's fine. The two, but I'm saying for any bacteria, so this is whatever. They were both fine, but one is painted with the healthy skin mural, and it looks finished. Yeah, but she's done. But did she paint the lawnmower? No, no. The lawnmower location? She painted the one near the the west most one, I hope. Yeah. That's what we're going to do next, right? I wasn't sure because there were a lot of trees around the one she... Yeah. That wasn't, that wasn't anything. Yeah, that's kind of... That's what I went to. You mean you didn't see the one on the front page? Yeah. That's where I was called on one day. Is that the cheese one? It's the cheese. Yeah, that's right. That's what I was just going to say. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. That's all they should have. Yeah, it's all done. It's a happy day. They had something to do with it. Yeah, it's all done. I drove past last night when it was late, Julie's... Yeah. and it looked painted, but it's made blue and it was dark. It was a night, so... But I was looking for the private box and then I just saw sort of a little chicken inside the pot. Oh, good. I think that was that. The Shot Card Committee, I'll be sending you the people who have said that they're done and ready for somebody to do it ready for for sealing, which is great. I think that it's the majority. I think that there's just that one culture. And then Julie and the communications department have started doing their videos. I can send you. So the communications department decided to go the methodology of rather than kind of what I was thinking with YouTube, with chapters of like, what to do, what not to do, what to expect. Like they're going hip or cooler, like making a fast two minute talkies. Sort of. Sort of. Sort of content. Whatever it's called. So anyway, I just, I gave them a list of you have to cover these things and you have to address this stuff. And then Julie, we're going to pay for your materials and you're going to do your work and you're going to give me videos. So I can see it. I mean, maybe you should be the one. I know about me about this. I know about me about this. I just don't, I just can't, I don't have my room. I just wonder if that is what you're short for. Yeah. And then just give us one big one with all the shirtless, the other shirtless. Melanie, I look at you because I know you post a lot of certain content. And I think it will be great because then the idea from the communications department was every year as shocker comes up and is going to start happening again, we'll promote our program by throwing these little shocker, you know, teasers out there. So then I also went back to the content and I said, okay, take away what the stipend is. We just say a stipend. So has that changes over what over time, like at least it doesn't date itself. I know those kinds. Yeah. Thank you, Randy. So number 10, ninth in L5, which we've been working on. Sorry, everybody's are done. So somebody caught COVID and called the artist and he was very sweet, but he said that he, you know, did feel comfortable moving forward. So we're on for the third through the sixth of November. Most of the people who initially had signed up, I'd say half have re-signed up and stuck with their same shifts. So if you would like to, rather than my creating yet another volunteer signage business, just sign up for a painting shift. And when you've come to your painting shift, you're gonna get a job. And it's gonna be whatever I need, which might be checking people in. So maybe as a good rule of thumb, sign in for a painting shift and come 15 minutes early so you can get your job. Yeah. And it's over for November 6th, it's, oh, yeah. Thursday, Thursday into Sunday, he reserved the right to, if for some reason we get done to cancel it, I was like fine. If the weather was significantly south in the next week and a half, which I don't think it will, you could have the decision issues, but in case it's been so bloody warm, I mean, for that ground, for that to get that cold, I just don't see it. I think we're, I think we're fine. Yeah. I'm working in the election, so I can't do it. Okay. Just come by and see us. Say hi. Thank you for your service. Yeah, I'm sorry. I was gonna show up. I know, I'm sorry. I am sorry, but I can tell you, I just don't get those in, but. Oh, yes. Sorry. And then the artist having the longer conversation about the second side, he has spoken to a local artist who we all love and admire about conceiving of the other side, but I think we're gonna do some sort of outreach component from the people who come to participate at ninth and out final on specifically on the fourth, about doing one of those dot majors, kind of the same thing. What is it that you wanna see on this? Do you wanna see a work? What do you want, what do you community want to see on the other side of this wall and get some of it? He's gonna really help facilitate that conversation. So I think that's what's gonna happen. Yeah. Okay, cause we had a printing, we had a printing here, and I don't wanna use these. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Oh, no. We're talking about the art. The art. The art. The art. The art. The art. Is there any other questions on ninth and out final? I did just the data work. Spring extension proposals. That's the same. I'm just working on the contract. I'm just going under, not amending it. I'm making a new contract. All right, moving on. Yeah, there are a lot of people. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. You're welcome. You have a quote from your friend. Oh, yeah. Vendor. Engineering vendor of $46,000 for the removal and rebuilding of the art piece. They sit down, move it over, put it back up. What is it? Is this together a form of the structural and material recommendations? Oh, unless we have stickers. Okay, that's a real thing. Sorry, forget that. Yeah, hold on a second. Who is the sticker? We are. Are you the man of your sticker? Are you out of stickers? Yes. Okay. Hand me back the ones that are not stuck. Does everybody need to stand up and stretch? These are all of them. These are all of them. These are all of them. Okay. Not those. These are all of them. These ones are not them. One and two. Not all of them. Yeah, all of them. See, people from early years who were part of the. Are you sure, are you sure? Not all of them. No stickers are not stickers. Are not stickers, but there is no one? No, of course. I stopped. Okay, so now, hold on just a minute. Because if I don't, my brain is sold out. What are those? Those are not ones. Okay, so if you're a sticker, raise your hands. Hand me your dog. Oh, no, I have to say just so you know what I mean. Okay, your stickers are done. Sticker done. Sticker. Oh no. Oh no. Oh no. Yay! Yay! Yay! I'm glad that, so we're getting this off me. I don't think we're going to do this. Okay. So Stephanie. Yeah? Do these bring the ones that have stickers over here? Yeah. Okay. Those are completely done. These are all swiped in. Oh, these are stickered in? Yeah. Yeah. Oh! You guys even did that? Yeah. Yeah. Oh my gosh, they all are so amazing. Yeah, they're white. I didn't even realize. See, this is what happens when you take the box with the... Oh, my gosh, you guys are sweet. These are contact lenses. Okay, those still need stickers. Okay. Oh no. These are swiped in. What? These are swiped in. They hold them down. Right. Oh my gosh, these are all stickered in. Right. Okay, these are all non-stickered. These are all non-stickered. Done. These are all non-stickered. Those are all non-stickered and swiped in. Here, did you buy a switch? I bought them all. Yeah, these are all non-stickered. These did. Yeah, these are all non-stickered. Yeah. These are all non-stickered. Who needs candy for your good job? What do you got there? Who needs water? We already got some. I hope I won't get too many. You better. Thank you all so much. You're so easy to make. I do. I love you so much. I love you. I know. I know. I love you. I don't see anything like cooking you or work and these beans that really don't. No, I just- I know. I know. I have a lot of my superiors. I know. I guess we're dropping by. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, we're dropping by. Of course. No. We all have some already. No! Okay, she's sort of swiping in. She's always swiping in. Okay, these are all non-stickered. Okay, don't let me put those in the box. All right. Okay. All right. I don't know. Where are we on this? Number one. Did you want to take a time out? Did you want us to keep swiping them? I don't think we have any more I don't think we have any more so I think we'll just leave it. I haven't even done it yet. Well why not? You didn't do your red and greens? No. What did you get in here? I don't know. Imagine Shakita that are in public places were to have a tagline or a put your red one on the one you love and your green one on the one you like but if one never possibility then why don't you do that city I'm going to talk about next week. So gather enough people the citywide contractor has come back and given us a scope of work for moving gather enough people and it was very comprehensive and upon the city engineers review and parks review and their vast knowledge of these kinds of projects because just to say I've installed a lot of hard work I've done all of that. I have never had to move like this. I have never had to excavate. Do you know what I was talking about? Oh Isaac Walton. Gather enough people it's a long Isaac Walton green line right at the pond and if you're headed west and you're right in your right right now it's just like gravel because when the flood happened it took all of that out and so the city remediated it just put a grabogram. It also is going to likely that stretch is going to be on your balance just so you know. That would be the RSVP business that you're going to be looking at is that stretch or a portion of that project is interesting but needless to say where I was at Walton is that firm will let me that down from where the river flows where Isaac Walton is has to be fixed and the Army Corps of Engineers is involved and so years ago the Army Corps of Engineers and Parks Department came and said that piece of artwork is in the way of what it is we're going to be doing. So you have two choices. You can leave it and we will demo it and take it out or you can move it. So we are investigating the cost for taking the piece, reclaiming and keeping as much of its guts and all of its bits and pieces as possible. We have selected over these years a location that is sufficient on the other side of the pond. So on the north finish side along the causeway we have checked with the electrical people and that easement so they have a certain amount of space that they won't let us the city invade under people of electrical arts. So the space has been chosen so now the next piece of all of this is figuring out what it's going to take and how much it's going to cost. That's that. So in the present moment we've got to bid back this $46,000 which was way less than I thought it would be. But there are some pretty, after sending it to the engineers in the city and the Parks Department is very knowledgeable. There's some very serious and large scopes of work for this project that have not been allocated. Monty money allocated. So their suggestion is we need to keep working and we're finding it. So it's going to be at least $46,000 which we are using. What else needs to be done? I just need them to give me the answer. So they're just saying like oh no. The design, the cost to fix the landscaping around, the concrete pouring was included. Like all these, the things that the Parks Department is like oh yeah, we need this and this and this. Anyway, so they gave me a list of things but the good news is again that because this is a citywide award we don't have to bid this out like normal things, right? Where at a certain threshold of an expense you have to bid it out and get a number of bids. We don't have to do that here because these people have applied for doing these kinds of construction jobs and they've been awarded this so we just need to exactly what they're going to do. Exactly how much it's going to cost and then that's where we look for what's missing. Anyway, so we're moving forward though. That's good because the Army Corps of Engineers is finishing up their design and they're going to bid the beginning of next year. So basically we have to have this done or at least take it out what we want before they go and sort of dab it on. Does that make sense? It's pretty scary but we're moving forward. This is the silver one. Yeah. So the other thing about other thing that's interesting about gather enough people is I think that, and I'm going to look at you, I mean it's stopped working before at some point it's electrical so there you go so that's Isaac Walton. The theory is when you get enough people on the platform it's like a truck scan and you get enough people to set a platform down the mobile opens up into a big protocol. It's a word we get isn't it? I saw it once. They say that you need a tent. How many do you need? That's true but how many did you get? I don't know. Oh that's okay. Moving on to union silos. So the union silos think about it. The structural engineers have gone out there to look at these to see what we need to work on and she'll ask them about everything we've discussed about what they need to cover them with. Can we use stucco? Can we do this? Can we do that? And so they are putting together a report with recommendations. It's about vital. They also looked at the ground around them to make sure that we can take equipment. So I asked about all of the alternative materials that they also asked about sealing the rebar. That makes most sense. They agreed that cladding is probably a good idea but I'm like okay, cladding the blood and how much does that cost? Anyway so cladding might be like starting a company or something. So I had that. When recommendations come in I'm appreciative Angela would start working on the cost problems things so that we could get a list and see. Because the last time I looked at 1975 square foot mural like we were looking in the 75, 80,000 each and that was, yesterday said I had a little inflation since then. It was like a set of silos. They're far enough apart I think that we don't know I thought they were going to be all around and I was surprised. And if we can get pricing made, if they actually eventually get pricing next month, maybe we can get a call to artists out in January. Out of the eight families. It's a goal. I think it's totally realistic. But you need to know what you're in for site prep. And then the other piece of it is if you decide to say take the first and we'll photoshop it so you can say look what it looks like say 10 feet and just make that a bam of singular color so when it gets tagged, we just don't paint it that singular color and the mural in fact is higher. And then the price from I've been imagining and I may be wrong 3,000 three different hours. You'll have to decide. Can anything obviously need to correspond for being thematically consistent to somehow be similar. And no beer cans. I was like, I did not joke. One of the departments here was a no beer can over here. Why would we do that? Okay, so 13, emerge remediation. You ready? Yeah. Most on top of the pillars on the bridge that goes over 287 This is the one that bothers you if you send your OCTs. It makes those crazy things happen. That ladies is a giant hole and that is not good. I don't know but a citizen said this to me two days ago. I don't know. Rock or something. This is what I asked you to make chocolate because I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this is bad. I don't know. So the contract from the artist is at the city attorney's office right now. He is reviewing this section that talks about alteration. Which basically goes back to at what point are we obligated to, we basically have to tell them we have to change this because we have to fix it because if moisture gets in there and starts the freeze thought cycle, we're in real bad shape. So we need to do something about this right away. That's too bad for now. I don't know. I'm calling a conservator but I'm pretty sure the way I read the contract is that the contract reads that we have to let the artist know that we're making an alteration. The good news is this isn't a public hazard. That's a good thing but it's a serious art hazard. So then the artist can come back and say well I want to fix it and then he can bid out and tell us what his cost would be but that's a state highway. Which means that that means CDOT permits. This isn't a very expensive situation. Luckily you budget every year and it's fun. And you know we are prepared to take care of this because this is what happens with fair corrections. So I think what would be in our best interest is if we can approve at least some amount of funds tonight to at least get the conservator going and taking a look at it for the stock gap, that would be ideal. If we do a $20,000 budget for maintenance, we easily have five more problems to take care of this. We also could uncover funds from next year to get a conservator under contract and then cover the funds next year. But it's a pretty serious deal. So how much do you want us to fix the conservators? How much do you want us to approve? I think that if you could approve at five, what do you mean? We're close with you. So if this project rolls into next year, we have to phase it and some of it comes out this year and some of it comes out next year, that's fine. If it rolls state that up to $4,999, I can just hire someone. So if somebody comes to me and says I can put a tarp over this and get it to the point where it will stop it from the re-saw and at least stabilize it for less than $5,000, then I can just spend that and get it taken care of in a short amount of time and then that at least gets us moving forward before we go into the winter. Don't we have somebody in the city that can jump it? Do we have a higher score than that? Yes. This is not a longer on-step. So because of the art piece, someone who has actually completed a deal for the real deal. I would be very serious about what you're going to track and order. And my requirement is not a good idea. That would be over $8,000 right now to stabilize it and apply as well to repair it and come back with more information. Is that going to be over $8,000? If the $8,000 is for one jump. So stabilization is when I go to the conservator who we use, who we have come in to see the neighbors wait this month, that's when they're paupers and say we have a serious need when you're here looking in nature's way to come and look at this and just tell me, they're going to have to get a ladder, they're going to have to climb up. So up to $5,000, if they say that they could do a stabilization for the winter time to get it stable so it doesn't crack or worse for the winter and then we figure out a permanent solution you know that's a wrap over but at $8,000 I'll have to get multiple bits. You don't have to worry about this kind of thing. We need to stabilize this as soon as possible. What's fastest? Should we just do $5,000? It's not faster to do that. So you're going to come back next month and tell us it's going to be $20,000 in the area. But if you make a motion to approve up to $8,000 tonight and I go out and find a conservator tomorrow who will stabilize it for less than $5,000, I would like the approval to just do it. I agree. I'll second that motion to advocate that for all those two higher conservations. And stabilize. All in favor? I vote opposed. Thank you. I will try and get as easy as possible even so we're ready to like move traffic. Instead of answering what is that material, I thought that was a straight hollow rock that we had on for years. Not hollow rocks. Not hollow rocks. It looks like it was stuck out actually. Yes. I think it was all with the small rock. That's what I was thinking, but I can see that. Otherwise it would weigh so much. I don't know. I don't know what I can find out. Here's the other thing. I think this is fascinating because I'm a total nerd. Because of the visual rights act and our contract, we have to let artists know that we are going to what's called the culture of this piece. We might come back and depending upon what the contract language is, he might want to bid out even if it's less than $5,000 to do the work himself because the fix might alter the look and feel of his intention. So the city attorney is in fact even if I get a conservator to stabilize it, I have to let the artist know that we're going to stabilize it. That won't change the intention of the piece but it's only going to keep it sound for now. Then we have to go through the whole fixing it because it's missing a bunch of pieces now. It's fascinating. It's crazy. It's terrible. Can we have the conservator look at the other pieces? It's a good point. It's similar to that. The artist may look at it and say, wow, from when I did this and now we're going to do the process. But we should maybe explore that for the entire set. Without doing the one, the next year it's done one. Absolutely. I've improved my process since I did this one and now I'm using this product and it's amazing and all of that is going to be taken into consideration. We are not just going to jump the gun and just do something just because. But the conservator is the one who's going to know the best situation to get it so it doesn't get worse. At this point in time, we are in arch triage. Like quite literally. We're all out for sure. We're all taking turns standing out there. But that was my only... How are we doing on time? Oh, we're doing good. Okay, the artwork label project. We have surveyed 134 components in our question. Some things are like Manilda, G-Graph is one thing, but they're like seven things. But yeah, 42 of them have no labels at all for whatever reason being removed or never have been done or whatever. I'm going to jump in real quick and say this is a really big deal. She's being modest. She and Iris have been a team working on this all year long. They have audited your entire collection. They have gone and seen every single piece. They have grabbed GPS locations for every single one. They've taken pictures. So she's being very modest. This is a really big deal. Yay! So one of the things that has come up is that we have two pieces of artwork that have been deaccessioned and removed. The signs are still there for us. We would like to... Can I make a motion? I'd like to make a motion that we remove the deaccessioned plaques from the two artworks and have facilities remediate the Civic Center. This is the political pages and the plaque is in the word block. So it used to be taken out and the word needs to be remaced. And have facilities remediate the Civic Center and rough and ready if necessary at our expense to be no more than $2,000. Rough and ready had a fountain removed from the pond as it was by hazard. But the sign is on a big rock. And the only way that that would be damaged is if they had to take a big caterpillar in there or something up or do something. But mostly it's just to reface the brick in the Civic Center. So we want to do that at our expense no more than $2,000. Would it be possible for you to reface the brick to actually lay down and start out on that area where that brick is that would be up to the facilities manager that the Civic Center they might want it all to look the same as the rest of it. They might just want to have the brick just to get a little half of it. It's inside the Civic Center. And I think it might be applied to the brick and they might have to like crowbar it off so I don't know what it's going to take to get it on. But it really should be possible. It's too bad that we can't just like fly something on top of it and just like a run. So it's a three to a five. It's like this brick. I mean it's not. The one first public page is about this big. The rough and ready part is probably about the center. I don't know. We only expected to allocate $2,000. I have no. I don't know if parks is going to say we can tear it off of the crowbar. I don't know if they're going to say, oh, we want that out of here. We're going to have to bring in a little thing and pick up the rock and take it away. I don't know if they're going to say in the Civic Center, you know, that's easy to do or that's hard to do. I don't know, but there's no work there. So it's referencing nothing and it needs to go. So I can come, but I absolutely can go to facilities and parks, have them price it up, tell me how much it's going to cost, bring it back to you, you can approve it, and then we can get it done or we can approve a certain amount of dollars. I'll go to them and tell me how much it costs. They do the work and I'll come back and tell you how much it costs. I'll have a second to your motion. I'll have a favor. I will. Okay. And rough and ready park has a lake that if you want to do a new piece of artwork ahead, we can always go through that. We have a lot. You do have a lot. You do have a lot. What Iris and I are doing now, after we surveyed everything is we're going to change up our plaques a little bit and we're going to make a little bike tour or a walking tour. We're not sure yet. And do like 10, 12 signs for artwork as samples and put them up so we can get some feedback to see how people out there and so that people will know this is what we're trying to do. And they're going to be in English and in Spanish. So we're going to have two art quotes that go to an audio file in English and in Spanish. And all of this will come to you before, yeah, for this. We're still working. Oh my God, we're still working. Okay. So, maintenance sign up. See this? Okay. Up on the right hand corner here. The staple is a number. That's your number. Here is your map. Pick 6 or 5 or 10. Which artwork do you want to look at? We used to do this online. Someone emailed me that they didn't know what they signed up for and they couldn't remember. So you have a map, you have a list. You're going to read your name. You're going to go. Look at them. You're going to tell me there's holes in them. You're going to tell me that blue here has burnt cuckoo all over and then we need a power watch. Are they? They're not. They're not pictures of damage. Things that were obviously damaged. They're not pictures of leaning stuff. They're pictures far away. So this is Go ahead, sorry. The more premier. The more eyes the better. The more photos the better. The more information you put in the object's files. A snapshot of the condition of the artwork now. And then in 6 months. And then 3 months from then. And then over and over. You were going to do this as long as you were on this mission. I went to Samsung Park and I could not do this. I looked at this map and I went up on the top panel and I walked down. I was looking that there's a whole bunch of artwork at Samsung Park. And I'm looking at this in the visitor center. There's some pictures. I'm editing this. So those two dimensional paintings are not included here. A couple of things that we know are in bad shape are not here. These are the things that we need eyes on. And I think 6 months is probably the attire of looking at something. So choose a quadrant of town. They don't connect this time. Are these on the list? No. These are alphabetical. But we're going to go around. Or I will let you take this column and bring it back. We don't want to do it now. But the online sign up did not work. So we have to... Everyone has to sign up for... Well, this is what we're going to do. Everybody has picked 6 to 10. I'm going to go through and your number in your uphand corner. People who are new, you're at the top of the list. So yes, Goss and Silver, what can be yours? And all the rest of you do choose that one this way. We have to split this up and we have to make it so we have eyes on everything. So we know where their purpose is. Everybody sees it because it will work. Everybody knows it. If you have questions about where it is, that's a good one. So maybe next meeting we'll go through. We'll do the sign up. We'll make sure that everything is covered. And then we'll also go through the online form again. Because the online form is so easy for you. You don't even have to think about it. Is there an electrical wire sparking next to it in a pool of water? That is bad news. And then if it rises to the top one, Eileen and I look at them as they come in. We can just flip a little switch and which ones are in bad shape and they all rise to the top. So you might say, and it's completely subjective this is art, but pools of water next to the plants and things like that, those are things you need to address. Something that's chipping, you know, it's holding, it kind of looks bad. It might not be at the top of our list depending upon where other things are. Can you send that form out as a link tomorrow? Because I think what I would do is open the text. I would also go visit my piece in the mail. Okay, however you want to do it. But the reason that I gave you numbers at the top is because, again, there are two signs up with the same thing and then there's a certain number of pieces that don't recover. So I'm going to let two, maybe three per piece and then I'm packing up. So you might choose something and you might not get it, right? So kick six to ten. Ideally, you're responsible for six through the season. Okay, okay. All right, don't forget this. Circle which one is you? Circle which one is you and one. I mean, if somebody has said before, like should I find, go to a different part of town. You know, if you were at McIntog Lake all the time, don't choose those ones. Don't choose someone else. That's why I wanted to see the parents. Yeah. But finding the golf course was really hard. Yeah. Absolutely. It's a golf course this way. And I drove around the suburbs and tried to, I could see it. I just couldn't get into it. Yeah. And at the same time you might find a great place in the vlog. This is a great place to look at all these people that are around this area. Like bring that back, right? The left hand part was great. I love that. The first time I did this, I was assigned the line trees in the middle of the park. The middle of the park. The middle of the park. There's a lot of parks. It's really cool. It's really what? It's really cool. Okay. So you can do a lot of these. Okay, so this will be fun. Don't forget to bring this back. Okay. Good plan. How are we doing? 730. We're going. We're going. Okay. So we have a friend from the community neighborhood resources equity team who is going to come and give us a training in November. The question for you is, well too. Do we want to have an augmented agenda that is only decisions, no updates, and then have the training or vice versa training and then quick fast meeting. When we could do our kind of like friends giving holiday food thing at the same time since training is a good time to. This is we're all quiet. Or we can plan the training on another day and we all come back or we can push it to next year. That's a really good question. Probably an hour. I mean, none of us has an equity. So we have it. If we do it when we have a tower and we have to visit our rows, that's always something on the agenda next month. This is also on the agenda next month. At least those two things are on the agenda. We have to cut through the chase. And then you need silos. Maybe those engineers get us to report. Yeah, I think we can do an hour together and then do an hour completed. Which may or may not. We can just tell the trainers, you get an hour. I think that that's very, I think that's very fair. I mean, maybe they just need a half hour to respond. That's what we need. You may have a goal. I just need you to tell me what to do. I think as in like making sure that we're providing our cross community across all spots in the community, no matter how much money the neighborhood has, or is that the sort of equity change? I think what Miss. Providing equitable access and understanding and making sure that we are using an equity lens in everything we do as people is a pillar of and frankly, sustainability as well. And I think that those are the person who's going to talk to us. We'll talk about both of them. But it's something that we need to adopt into our process and learn how to be how to have a check and balance of making sure that we are using that equitable lens and so by giving us a training into how do we make sure that we are using that lens, using it appropriately and also adhering to what the city expects us to do as a governing body program in the city. Can I say that right? You think? That's possible. Damn, it works. Yeah. I'm like. Thank you for your answers. Yeah. Yeah. It's back and says this is to our presentation. Yeah. And you just send us a note. Yeah. All right. So we can state online maybe. Yeah. All right. On the subject of the equity team or whatever it is, Daniel and I met with them by to talk about the culvert, not the online mural. And I mean these are very important people. They're very good at making a lot of the fair and wonderful place that it is and make sure that we all know what that means. I mean, I really do. Because I think it would all be more mindful. Yes. It would all be more mindful. Some of these old non-equity beliefs and habits have been very deeply engraved and it's very important to be mindful of all of us. And I think at some point the intention was to have this community become a portion of the boards of commission stream. Raise your hand if you have been to a board of commission stream. Less than half. No. So to be fair, I think that even boards of commission because of COVID, like all of these city expectations of what it means to be a board of commissioner and your role as an ambassador and frankly as a civil servant, I think is lost a lot until we just need to get back into those mindsets, right? Getting back to the idea that they are going to do that training. The board of commission training. Yeah, if we could record it. It is reported. Oh, it is. Yeah, it's been sent to you but I can retent it. Okay. Okay. Can you buckets, Peter, make sure that you have a copy and you are with. Oh, it is. It's like two hours. It's much better in person. Eugene is so lovely. And some of that legal stuff. Oh, I would say that. But I will reason. I will re send the governance, the board of commission training. And also on that note, there is one C, of course, available on this commission and the application courses Monday. And so I anticipate that there will be the new board of commission training that would should accompany coming on scenes. Okay. Cool. Okay. We're all agreed that we're going to be meeting this training next month. Awesome thinking. The project assistant. Oh. So we are one of our very few, very, very few programs that the position for three quarter time benefited program assistant for our local places has made it through first reading of the budget cycle. The second reading is on October 25th. And it is anticipated that the council and everyone is going to approve the budget as it's written. So if that is the case, then I have my marching orders for setting up the job description, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. January 1st. January 2nd. We're close to that speaker. And it will probably be up for a month. So they can send out three quarter time benefit orders. And it has been benchmarked. So it's made its way through HR, all of those kinds of things. Primary rules is going to be all of the back and forward for the city. My favorite things. Back and forward for the city attorney's office, marketing coordination stuff, all of the communication stuff. All of those calendars we need to be on. Lots. A lot of this stuff so that I can focus on my role of outreach, development and expanding this program the way that we continue to talk about to work on drive that. And then I mean is going to continue to do the collections management portion. Oh, and this person will be totally responsible for all of the primed up and all of that agenda, communication business, all of that. So anyway. Yes. So that would be really great. So we need some test scores. Oh, we need to. Aren't people for hiring? We need a two person hiring test for spring. Spring. But they need to set up a test for us now. So the job reviews and interview questions and et cetera can be prepared volunteers. This one. I have no idea what's going on. I have three interviewers. I have. Oh, yeah. You hire people all the time. I've been interviewing the last two months for bartenders. So I'm like so in an hour right now. But I have to cover it. Yeah. So I can email you now. Thank you. So I'm really excited. And I think that is. Yeah. Okay. And I'm going to. Can I change the order of the. Agenda. I just want to add that. Oh, yeah. Because you were here. Sorry. Council updates. I have questions about RSVP. And. I don't know. You know, we can't give a political opinion, but it's been a little contentious about. The ballot item in the back and forth of extending. The hover. What did they call it? Overstructure or whatever. So. It has parks or anybody giving you presentation on. On that stuff. You guys know what I'm talking about. Sunset to hope. Sunset to hope. Right. They're. They're talking about. It's the next. It's the next leg of funding. Or the resiliency. Resiliency. It's the next. It's the next leg of funding. Or the resiliency. Resiliency. Like. Everything from. Sunset street. I just read the thing. Whatever reason. Oh, like where they are. No. It's over. All of that. So the reason I asked. To affect art. Art. Yeah. That's why I asked this. Just so you all know that. If. That. Ballot initiative does pass. Then. That means. That the details of nature. Could potentially need to move. And finally. Listening stone. We would move it. And when the river is rerouted. Then we'll reinstall it. Back to the next. The river word. Needs to be. That's why I asked this. So you all know that. If that. Ballot initiative does pass. Then. That means. That the details of nature. Could potentially need to move. And finally. That the details of nature. And finally. That the details of nature. Needs to be. Love for. S��안. We need or the six times over so cool. So I don't know. They've talked. About. That a little. No. Okay. Understood. Initially in Michem euro. Its. Sir, What was that? Okay, okay. Okay. Mischeher comments. Are we even listing? Heads. I was the heads. I don't know until I'm sure it's exhausting right now. It must be. Exhausted. Are you regretting it? No, no, no, this was so much to learn, so much. So much to do, there's just so much to do this year. I mean, I didn't know this, but we had, I didn't know that this wasn't a thing. We had five regular sessions in a row. What? And so, you know, because of the budget and other issues like the downfall, you know, other things that's going on, like you all know about. And so that's, for those of you who don't understand what an executive session is, is when council gets to come together, that's when all of us get to sit together and actually go over an issue or policy because the law states or our ordinance or we can have three, only two councils can really come together at a time and talk about any policy issues. It's not a meeting, right? Because it needs to be made public, okay? So that's why we have a second session so that we can discuss this. And of course, always our city attorney is there with us when we have questions in the city manager. And so that was very tiring, you know, starting at five o'clock and then running to city council meeting at seven, a lot of times I would be like seven, 15 when we would be sitting in the car. And then when do you eat? Yeah, that's when they will order us food and everything and then we eat there. But so this time of year I'm learning, because this is my first time, but it's of course budget time is crazy. And so, you know, this is something that, so when I first got on council, I put, I made a motion to decrease our times, our meeting times to at least three times a month because council was meeting every week in our charter states that we only have to meet twice. So when you think that people don't understand it and I said it when I was quoted in this speaker, it's an equity thing because three of us work full time. And then you don't even think about the city employees. No one can take a two week vacation. Think about that because we are at council every week. And, you know, that's not only really retired people on city council. Yeah. Still. Yeah. You know? And so people are believing you had the emails and the calls and you didn't know what you were doing, you didn't know what you were signing up, but no one is thinking beyond that. Because hopefully everybody said, oh, we want more diverse council. Well, if you're going to younger people, that's what they may have to be. You can't be on council every week. So, so yeah, it is tiring, you know? You know this a lot, and then you have to, you know, do your research before you vote against it. Like, you don't make decisions, you don't understand it. You get a 13 on the page, packing on Friday, and you got to know all this stuff on Tuesday. You don't have a meeting. Yeah. Well, and then if there's an event on the weekend, you don't have to be there. You get what I'm saying? So, I'm so thankful. I can't thank you enough because I do. I watched the council often from home, but I don't know. It's so much work. Thank you for being here today. We're so grateful we are here. I'm so glad that you've bring this forward. And it is a growing pains of a growing city like ours. You don't have changes that will be made. We have, you know, more improvements. We have stress on infrastructure. We have everything. And that it does require constant attention. And so, I mean, it's just the effort. I'm one of you is like, how are we ever going to have younger, more diverse leadership? Well, maybe there's a way to get young people involved in what happened in the city council members, where they're like on a particular task force, or maybe not as a commission, but, you know, you don't want a task force for a topic. So it just kind of, I don't know, just thinking about it. Well, I just, I also hate worship. I don't have four years to do this, so three years up. So I came in late and I was doing everything so quick. They were like, hey, what, what have you just approved? Yeah. So we, it is budgeted and you're having to prove that we are going to have an internship from work. And so this internship can be either high school seniors or college students that will, it's a paid internship. Boy, if those, it's a thousand dollars, it's no, we get up to five jobs. Oh, gosh. So if any of those interns come from, and I've been partnering with Front Range, and if any of them come from Front Range, Front Range will actually be the break, too. Oh, boy. So if you, so these interns will come in, the first part of their internship, they will go into the particular department of the city, first as customer service, because I told them customer service is a plus, because if you expecting these people to serve our community, they'll have to be compassionate, they'll have to be understanding and patient. And so that's number one. But then the same for instance, that, oh, I want to be an engineer. Guess what department they want to be an intern. And so that's halfway through. And there may be a couple other departments that have the dentures. And then they come into city, then they come to city council, give us a report of that portion of the internship, and then the other half of the internship in turn with us. Oh, that's great. What? What do you think has happened? What do we find out? Well, you know, everything is in the budget. I've been working on it. I've been working on this because of that very reason, how can we integrate young people into government? Yeah. And people who are passionate about their community, and personally have to learn how the city is hovering. Yeah. You know? And there's a big mystery to a lot of people. Mystery to me. Mystery to me. Mystery to me. Mystery to me. Mystery to me. Mystery to me. Mystery to me. Sorry. Also on that note, the elections staff is trying to get high school kids to be ambassadors for the election. And if, you know, if any high school kids that want to do that, they can just call the county clerk from the quarter, and they'll get higher, by the way, because they're looking for kids, and they're looking for a lot of high school kids as soon as they can get happy to do people work. Senator, oh yeah, they're ambassadors. They welcome people and come in and find out how the election process works, see what we are doing, and how we sign up people and what processes. They have to go through a training, that's a short training, like a six hour training. And so, yeah, it's a great way for young kids to see how the election process actually works. So who's managing the internship? Do we know who's, who's who's who's who? Why are you sending them? I think Sandy, our assistant, one of our assistant city managers, so she's the one I went to about the internship program. I also, I want them to partner with the community foundation and also with the chamber, so that those interns can also, they want to learn more about the nonprofit and the non-line community foundation and actually assist them with that as well, and then to talk more about business, they want to be an entrepreneur, they have the, the, the chamber as well. Also, I've had a problem for a little week, but Sandy is the one who really wanted to kind of, oh, she, maybe she'll have an intern to help the interns. So, however it is, I'm telling you, that's, we have to start giving space to our young people to share their voices. And this is going to be their community and we need to support them. Whether they agree with what they think or want, it doesn't matter, the support they can guide them and teach them, okay, that's a, I don't understand where you're coming from, but what will happen to this, you know, what would you do if this happened? And they're making, helping the thing can be creative, like what would you have on the wall, being a creative, creative, creative thinker. And so, that's, that's what we want. That's not hard. What would this start as? How about Jan, you work on this group? Next year. I'm not sure if I'm starting anywhere, but I think the internship may be over the summer. So, because I can't really do that with my school, so yeah. If it's hooked to the budget cycle, it can't, I mean, they can start doing prep work or whatever, but that's a funded position, just like our position, like they can't start until she can do that. That's a senior innovation center, right? Amazing, right? Yeah. So, you know, because they do all kinds of internships through that organization. So, if you can just start with, they already have a place to go for an innovation center, that can be really helpful. Okay. Because all the high schools, right, feed into the innovation center. And like my daughter's doing an internship through them right now, I'm at the months training for her, and she's an officially unemployed, so she had to go through getting her, you know, doing a lot of good stuff, but the, you know, getting the word out would be great to do it through the innovation center, if you want high school students, right? And then you have the school district to help. So, I see some of that process because we do have the issue of under 18. I'm sure they'll do all the, so we have five minutes left. Oh, if we find somebody who's interested in instructional engineering, who wants to shut down the highway, send us highway. That's it. Boy, you're big. What are these for? So, those are your love quotes up there. Now, your blue one is your heart when you're yellow ones. That's a mess. So blue is one. Blue is number one, yellow is number two. I'm gonna add them up to points, and then you might get a gift. What year new? Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Guys, before we go to this, are there any other commissioner comments? No, can I get a motion to adjourn? Oh. I have a motion to adjourn this meeting now. Second? Second. All in favor? Aye. Okay. You're so good. You're good. Okay, what does it give? Blue.