 Next caller is Grant from Arizona. What's up Grant? How you doing? What's your question? Hey guys, thanks for having me on my question is How have you guys helped? Male athletes who struggle with orthorexia Hmm. Oh remember we talked about this with with Jason on the show, right? Yeah Can we get into that with when he was here the first time? Yes, that's that's a really good question so orthorexia for the listeners is a eating Disorder or a bad relationship with food where everything has to be perfect or healthy So everything you eat you need to it has to be healthy has to be perfect And if it goes outside of that it causes you a lot of stress and issues and I would say this is probably most common in the Bodybuilding very common say yeah in terms of which sport I would think that was probably the highest I saw this like right, you know what when we this was really surprising to me I didn't expect this I expected when getting into competing. I was going to meet all these people that Were the smartest the most dialed them have the best relationships with exercise and diet and it was actually the opposite I mean a lot of them they were what they were really good at was being consistent But part of it was because it was like an issue, you know, they were obsessed obsessed with Measuring weighing and tracking and if they didn't They would go like off the rails and so what I would do in coaching an athlete when I'd see this this I've talked to you guys about this off-air I would I would do intermittent fasting for this reason to help break that right So if it's somebody who has an issue with eating outside of like weighing and everything perfect Challenging them to be like hey listen, we're not going to eat for 24 hours It would be it would be really difficult for them to do it because a lot of times It's tied to very similar stuff that you know, Sal you and I have talked about where You know, I'm afraid if I don't eat these foods or I don't exercise today Like the muscles gonna fall off and therefore I have to be I have to eat in this these parameters all time Now Grant is this you or is this somebody you're working with you mind if I ask oh, it's 100% me like for the last I don't know seven or eight years. Okay. Now. Have you ever dealt with? Anorexia or bulimia or is it just did you go just from, you know, red regular to orthorexia or feelings like that? Definitely struggled with Anorexia, I didn't never got into bulimia because I hate throwing up But I think I would I would go off the rails and then I would purge like with exercise or Doing like the intermittent fasting approach. Got it. Okay. I'm definitely not telling you the intermittent fasting. Yeah Good question. No, that's why I asked yeah Yeah, so so and that's why I asked you that so now of course we're not experts in eating disorders We've just worked with people with nutrition now. I would recommend that you work with a Professional in this field. So I'm gonna speak from a trainer perspective. Okay Grant in my experience when I've worked with people who have Issues with food like you're saying orthorexics. I Would and this is not the place you're gonna stay but this is a great place to transition I would take your focus off of food and put it on performance. Okay, so Rather than looking at all your food and I need to eat the right macros Don't worry about that. I want you to look at your performance. How strong am I? How fast am I what's my stamina and then if you need more energy you eat more if you're too lethargic you eat a Little less but focus on performance and in my experience This is what ends up happening your obsession moves from food to performance and being obsessed with performance Isn't where you want to end up It's just a better place to be or to transition from once you move to performance as your soul focus Then you can start to move more towards an intuitive eating point, but in my experience. I have to take that person's Obsession away from food and I can't do that by keeping them focused on food in any way shape or form It has to be focused on something difference and performance in my experience seems to be a good a good place to go Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Okay Now are you what kind of workout are you following? Oh? Right now I am doing like Well, I just I've been doing kind of like a maps anabolic type of for a few weeks I'm going heavy with lower reps and then moderate right now. I just started Doing like the 12 to 15 rep range for most of its more thing on getting a pump and getting Some endurance in there And then probably within the next couple weeks. I'll go back to heavier lifting and and lower Like rep ranges, you know, I would I would love to see him run something like mass power lift I was just gonna say that our left would be such a great focus right now This because it will it will take your mind off focus on the metrics. Oh completely So you'd be focused completely on strength and I like that I like what Adam said because it will ensure if you're just focused on strength You're gonna eat sufficiently, you know what I'm saying and you'll probably be a little looser You might be a little looser with your diet Then you would be if you were focused on aesthetics. Does that make sense now? Are you yeah now is that oh? Go ahead. Go ahead. Oh, I was just gonna ask if if you're regimented Every single day weighing Tracking measuring or do you allow yourself like weekends or anything to kind of relax? Yeah, so weekends when I go and visit my parents there. They're pretty it's relaxed But then during like the work week like I'll do meal prep Because I'm lazy as hell and I don't really want to cook when I get home from work But yeah on the weekends like It's it's always just kind of freebies like I'm going off the rails. I'm like dinging on stuff It's just I'm not really tracking how many calories are in this dinner Like you guys know oh Go ahead does that does that cause you anxiety or because you said that? You don't feel like you're going off the rails have you tried, you know also doing a day here and there during the week No, I haven't tried doing a day during the week But it doesn't it causes me some anxiety but then Usually because I'm with my family. I'm like whatever, you know, it's not that big of a deal and plus because I'm so Consistent with my training. I'm like I have you know, yeah, I think you guys could relate like you have that constant Kind of the reminder where it's like well, it's not really gonna matter because I know tomorrow I'm gonna go and lift anyway So if I have a little extra it probably will make things go smoother in the gym or in my home gym The truth is that's the right that's the right attitude right there to have that during the week You know, yeah, that's saying that same idea like that's not a big deal I ate a little more so I'm gonna get after the gym tomorrow just learning to transition that to the week You know, yeah, I think the focus on performance focus on strength and performance is a great transition Don't end up there because being obsessed with performance can also run its own risks But you know, I do want to add this there's a lot of light at the end of the tunnel And the fact that you're calling and talking to us about it Means that you're aware and that is the hardest first step I mean to get somebody who has issues with food to just admit is so challenging. So Congratulations on that. Thanks. I did have a quick question is Maps power lift is that something that can be done at home? Yeah. Oh, yeah Yeah, as long as you got a bar, you got a barbell. You got a barbell. You're good Yeah, if you do you have a barbell dumbbells and a squat rack. I have three barbells a trap bar Yes, yeah, I've got a lot of stuff here. Yeah, you're good. You're good, man So, okay, we're gonna send that to you. Yeah, unless you got it already. We'll send that over to get you going man Oh, wow. No, I yeah. Thank you. No, I don't have that yet. Wow. That's awesome. Thank you guys Excellent. We we appreciate you supporting mine plump. I recognize your name. I know you asked me questions before so Thanks for that and stay in touch. Yeah. Yeah, let us know Of course. Thanks guys. I appreciate it. All right, I'm so glad that you asked the question Yeah, because how funny is that like my first initial I'm thinking like competitor and I used to interrupt the intermittent and Really it was to to make them aware if they even have a problem, right? The fact that he is aware of it and then he's also leaned on the side of anorexia That'd be awful advice to give him would be to be intermittent fasting. Oh, that would be anorexia That would be anorexia, but you know what? It's such a great great question But it's also look he's a he's a male and he's truck and he's in the you know And he's focused and he's trying to build muscle nine out of ten times they didn't have issues with anorexia and nine out of ten times It was what they would call bigorexia, right? That's so that's I'm so glad you but highlights This is where when we always answer questions when we don't have the actual person We have to say insight because it's that's a total different answer If it's somebody who is like a competitor who has the big rexia or whatever versus somebody who's actually had anorexia a completely different strategy on how we go about it exactly