 Presidential candidates Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramoswamy make no secret of their dislike for each other and their animosity came to a head at the Republican debate on November 8, with Haley muttering that her rival was just scum. Ramoswamy, a pugnacious entrepreneur who delights in making outrageous statements, provoked groans from the audience during a discussion on banning TikTok when he mentioned that Haley's daughter had used the Chinese short video app. You might want to take care of your family first, he told Haley, a former US ambassador to the United Nations and a former governor of South Carolina. Leave my daughter out of your voice, Haley shot back, adding under her breath, you're just scum. The next generation of Americans are using it, and that's actually the point. You have her supporters propping her up. That's fine. Here's the truth. The easy answer is actually to say that we're just going to ban one app. We got to go further.