 because girl it was time for my heavenly father to answer the prayer that I had put up to him 13 years prior and that's beautiful man I I can tell that it was something because I know so many people I've changed so many man I already know it's like sometimes like you you know like I say when I when I think about it just being a young girl you talk about coming from that dysfunctionality like it was tough in the home like something happened to where you felt like this ain't right you know I mean and I heard you speak on it on another interview but it's like but for you to be who you are now for you to help so many people with the movies and stuff that you've done we said at home during COVID and watch Puriflix too we couldn't watch Puriflix no more trying to cleanse ourselves because we hadn't had to look at each other for a very long time and all this other stuff and now I got to look at her y'all see she cute well I'm trying to find cute and we've been through hell and high water and I'm trying to figure out if this is where we gonna be right you pop on the TV different people pop on it encouraging and we say we don't want to listen at that no more because this right here we don't want to hear nothing but what's real how do we find Puriflix do you think you found it one day just looking through abs and stuff like that because I didn't know anything about this you have your Netflix you have all these other ones and when I saw Puriflix I'm like huh it's just a name alone sound like okay so when you look through it I'm like okay no cursing nothing really you know no sexual no this no that I'm like okay this is a great platform so you know that's when we started watching it and we're like and then you have so many different films on there and then of course war room is one thing that I'm telling you that I shared war room on Facebook like a million times listen because being married I would tell everyone that even today and I would get so mad if when I follow up I said did you watch it yet did you watch it yeah because when you call me tell me you having this this this problem you need to watch this I'm not gonna tell you what to do but you need to watch this this will help you and anytime I feel like I'm having problems in our marriage I will pull up that movie and watch that movie because to me I don't want to get no spoilers but you realize that you're not fighting I'm not fighting him I'm fighting somebody I cannot see you understand what I mean and every single time I watch that movie there is one part that gives me goosebumps and it's when Priscilla like she's she sends a devil out of her house I don't know where you are devil but I know you can hear me yeah and say get out can't have my marriage you can't have my daughter and you sure can't have my man and then she shuts the door and then she come back again I said and as a matter of I am so sick of you stealing my joy but that's changing too and I get goosebumps every single time she does that my joy doesn't come from my friends it doesn't come from my job it doesn't even come from my husband my joy is found in Jesus let me ask you a question like when when you was preparing for that part just give me a spill I'm gonna I'm gonna run down like like walking up to that situation how it even came together like how did she get that part no I want I want I'm asking you like I want to know oh it it some deep divine stuff see when when when things are lean mm-hmm and you're still trying to do the right thing and these roles are coming and they're not good for you to take and you're like how can I talk my way into it and or whatever and it not be so bad but I made a choice that I was going to be God honoring with the projects that I take I love that I had gone to a women of faith conference and in between the different women speaking they had a an actress who would do different scenes in monologues named Nicole Johnson and she was killing it too I had never seen anything like it and I was like okay God if you would just allow me to use the gift that you've given me the way you're allowing her I'll give you everything that I have I didn't want to beat Nicole but I did want him to use me in a mighty way and so as the years went on and the years kept taking I take this that this that but I got more involved in my church writing directing dramas and whatnot and then me and my husband we thought it was us who had decided to leave LA but I realized that that was not the case at all so anyway we leave LA and we moved to North Carolina why would an actress move to North Carolina hmm so anyway we were house hunting and the last realtor to show us a house saw a license plate on my then Ford Winstar minivan and it read the book I had a van I've only got one child and I had him when I was 103 and baby I was on my knees for him for a long time and then God did honor it but we were fostering so I needed a van to carry my foster kids around and anyway the lady the realtor said so the book your license plate what is that is that the book I said what book are you talking about she said you know the Bible I said yes so she asked where I was going to church I said honestly we've been going to different churches but we haven't found one that we felt God was telling us to stay grow loose and she said okay well you know what this weekend why don't you come down to my church if I give you the address would you consider I say sure so we went down walked in those doors baby the spirit was up in that place the doctrine was sound you always have to check your dog exactly can't let anybody just tell you whatever because there's a lot of crazy you know it mmm that's why you got to know it for yourself and so and the worship was on fire so one year led to two years led to three years led to eight years and then a gentleman said Karen the Kendrick brothers gonna be making movie I think you should audition I think you're the one they're looking for house that's why I'm here as far as my faith is concerned I believe in God just like most people he said I've seen how you served here the eight years that you have been here and I believe you're the one so he said I'm gonna send you some dial no I'm gonna give you their information send a picture of resume I did and I didn't hear anything back from them he asked me he said well have you heard from the Kendrick brothers I said no he said that's okay that's okay cuz they're gonna be holding auditions next week he's very important to me well let me get coffee right here in our church hmm so on the day of the audition you know the guy sent me the sides from Miss Clara he said and I know you the one cuz I seen what you can do so the day of the audition day of the audition I went into my closet found something that I thought would be appropriate for an 80 year old woman and then I found the wig that I thought would suit this Miss Clara character that I was envisioning so that was your wig in the movie it was a different way but you know I've got lots of weeks so I had a gray wig very similar okay and so I got dressed up and I went in in character and I stayed in character the entire time so if I asked you what your prayer life was like would you say that it was hard and when I was through they asked me to give my testimony and I gave it I gave the good the bad and even worse thank you I like it black Miss Clara you like your coffee room temperature no baby man then I laughed and when I got home the phone was ringing and they were offering me the role but see check this out the Kendrick brothers mm-hmm there's some praying brothers cuz they had interviewed well-known gospel singers and actresses but God kept telling them no mm-hmm because girl it was time for my heavenly father to answer the prayer that I had put up to him 13 years prior mm-hmm yeah and that's beautiful man I I can tell that it was something because I know so many people I've changed so many man I already know it I'm telling you she gives this movie to every friend every time that's she gonna solve their relationship with this movie and that's how she thinking I agree with her because there's so many jewels in it you know what was the most what scene or line from that movie was the most understanding the one that you hold on to that there were so many but one was sometimes you got to get out of God's way mm-hmm you got to plead with God so that he can do what only he can do then you got to get out of the way and let him do you know you can pray and you can talk in tongues and you can do a whole lot of things but if you don't leave space for God to come in and do what he says he will do mm-hmm you know cuz then we're sort of like becoming God not realizing well I'll do it I'll do I know just sit back you got to trust and in that trusting and sitting back then you grow your faith mm-hmm he said he will do it give him the space in which to work yeah we on boss talk one-on-one one-on-one yeah we gonna