 Oh, we're live. Where's the chat room? Boop. We... So say hi. Oh, I see the chat shows up over there. So, hi community, which I realize this is a... I don't know. This is a ad hoc surprise letting off steam. So what's happened is... Let me see if I can show you. Can I do this? There we go. So there's the editing workstation. I'm doing a compression to make that go. And... Oh, hey, we already have some people showing up. And so I figured, hello James Johnson from Florida. Or flah. Yeah, that was... I want to say it was NASA that did that, where they have these slates on NASA TV that you can't really... You know, they might make it to air. I don't remember. But they're definitely, like, as we're transitioning... Ireland. They're transitioning from... When you're transitioning from one NASA center to the next, on NASA TV, they have these slates that say, hey, this is Johnson Space Center. And it is Johnson Space Center comma TX, I believe. But then it was Kennedy Space Center comma FLAH. And we're like, why not FL? Why FLAH? That is... Yeah, that's the state's... FLA? No, it's FL. FL, right. And we were like, why is one TX and the other one FLAH? That didn't make any sense. So hello, Manchester, UK. Hey, Trey, if you're in Orange County, then pop over to the studio. So is the studio. By the way, you're always... If you're local, or if you're in the Orange County area for whatever reason, let's say you're visiting Disneyland, or you're going to the Angel Stadium, or you're going to Anaheim Stadium, or what else is over here? There's just a bunch of stuff. If you're ever over here, lower Alabama... That's funny. That's funny. If you're ever in the area, and it's a Saturday, and we have a show, you are always free to show up. Kosovo? Hello? PJA 18. So we're not Griffith, but we're close to Griffith. Like, we have people on the show that are Griffith. I mean, it depends on where you're coming from. Yeah. Right? So if you're coming from Ireland, then yeah, we're really close to Griffith. Yeah. If you're coming from San Francisco, we're not really all that close to Griffith. So yeah, I just wanted to start out, hang out and say hi, because these, like, the compression takes a little while. I figured we could do, if you want, if you want. We can do a quick behind-the-soons tour, kind of like walk through the set that did a bit. Behind the what? Set? Scenes? Yeah, swings, swings. I have Invisalign. You can't see it because it's invisible. I'm trying to... All right, here you go. So see these teeth? I'm trying to move these teeth back into position. So I have Invisalign, which means that I wear my Invisalign all the time. I have to wear it 22 hours a day. I can basically only take it out for food. And I've learned to... Is that fan? Is that fan? Yeah. Wait, is that fan? Yeah. I don't know which way it goes. I can only take it out for food, but it makes it somewhat difficult to, like, do s's. Yeah. Is that s's? Yeah. So hi. You guys want to take a tour of the set? What do we want to... What do we want to do? Why don't we take a quick... Heh. That fan. All right. You want to turn on some lights for me? And I'm going to... Actually, hey. Those are my reading glasses because I'm going blind, which is slightly annoying. This is the iMac Pro that we use to do things. This is a printer because I don't know why. Oh yeah, some patches. We're still trying to get those flown in space. They're on Exos Aerospace, and they'll keep reflying them, it sounds like. So we'll hopefully get some of those patches that are space flown sometime soon. What is that thing against the wall? Against the wall? I mean, there's nothing on the wall. Oh, this? This is a thermal printer. That's for when you order swag from the store, which very badly needs to be updated. That prints out the label, the shipping label, automatically. And then this is... This is hilarious. So this is the rack of gear. So that's a sure... What is it? Accident digital wireless system because go bigger, go home. So... Yeah. That is a 4K SDI display screen. Then we've got the Accident... These are the battery charging packs right here. These... This bank of 4 right here. So you've got... I open this up. You can see there are batteries inside, and we can pull these out and drop them into the wireless packs. This is really hard to do remotely. This is the main encoder. This is a Teradex Slice. This sends to Teradex Core, which is how we send the same signal to multiple different areas. So this is the main encoder for the channel... the webcast. This is a SDI. Oh, wait, hang on. You know what? I should be connected to Wi-Fi. This is the old Blackmagic HyperDeck Studio. Hello, Raj. Yeah, surprise live stream. I think it says surprise in the title. Old... old deck. The problem is the power supply died. And so if you turn around the side, there's another one right over here. But this is the older deck because the buttons don't work correctly. So it's just like wedged in here temporarily until I have time to pull the power supply out of this one and move it over to this one. But I haven't had a chance to do that yet. So now I've got two dead HyperDecks. I've got to get those fixed. This is an Atom Constellation. So this is an 8K video switcher currently in 4K mode. This is how we switch the main show. It's 40 4K inputs or 10... Is that right? Yeah, 10 8K inputs. That's pretty cool. This is a fiber optic converter. So all of our cameras come back here is fiber optic. And then this converts it to 6 gig or 12 gig SDI. These are Tarenax AV converters which we don't really use that much anymore because their latency is too high. And then these are the smaller version of those converters which we also don't like using because they're also really high latency. And then these are actually two Mac minis. This used to drive the guest and then that would be the hologram which we pulled out and moved to a screen and then a bunch of blank spots. So this Z420 series these are both really old computers but this one is for the social media stuff. It's actually what is driving this screen right here. And it's what puts the lower thirds up on the screen. Hello Johnny Cheese. And this one is what plays back the video files. Both of those need to be replaced pretty badly. And then I've got my old Johnny says hi Karrion. She says hi. Matt where does Mike be? So Mike is no longer part of tomorrow and he's kind of exited aerospace. So I don't know but you can follow him on Twitter certainly. And we do. We're not like we left amicably. So like no hard feelings or anything. I'm going around the back. Sorry. Look at the cable mess. This all needs to be fixed up. That seems like bad. Hello gone. So we use ubiquity switching and security appliances for the show. So that's all POE and then they're like cloud stuff. That's the security appliance to prevent people from doing bad things. And then this is the audio extender from the Behringer audio board which I'll show you in a little bit. And then just kind of like the back of the rack which again all needs to be cleaned up. I'm embarrassed at how bad that is. The neat thing is that we're all digital audio. So these are shirts that I don't like. So I've never actually released. Yeah. Like the cables are bad. Like these are really bad. Look at that. That's embarrassingly bad. So like some of it's really good. When I first installed it everything was nice and neat and labeled correctly. And then you know over the years this happens. So what I need to do is I just need to buy more cable. All right. Let's see here what else we got. Swag store. This is like what we're trying to do. Swag store. Some of the stuff. Oh we got a bunch of astronaut pants sitting down there. And then just stuff that we use to kind of build the studio. This is also a mess that needs to be cleaned up. All right. Let's take a walk into the control room. Okay. Here's the control room. I don't know how often you guys get to see this but because it's an ATEM constellation it's actually four mix effects switcher with a two mix effects control surface. So there's the control surface. This is the main area that runs the show. This is the main area that runs the screens. Like that screen right there is switched up here and then the main shows switch down here. Right. And then Dada has his like run down and chat room and everything. Actually our chat room is slightly different than your chat room. Yeah. This is where Dada sits Johnny. You'll see that we have colors on the right side of the screen so I can go through here. Social soft line again. That's annoying. It's really annoying. So I can hit like blue and you're highlighted blue and then I can be like I want to push that to air and I can press red and it will actually create when that's red that's actually automatically created your comment on a screen that we can then bring to air. Hello future Martian97. Hello PAX. And I will try to go through and say hi to everyone in a few minutes. But yeah this is like he's got a boatload of buttons and you can see the digital screens like all the different cameras. There's the guests Apple TV. There's the DDR. We've got four different media players. One of the things I've been looking at is trying to do chroma key. So I'll actually give you a tour. We don't. Oh yeah there's so much that goes on behind the scenes like I know that the live show isn't the most popular thing we do. So this is a Behringer X32 audio mixer. What's really cool about it is it's actually linked to let's do this. So it's actually linked to automation. So you can see these red buttons here. Sorry I'm trying to not move too much. These are the mute buttons so you can actually you can see like here the different accident microphones. These all coming digitally into the board. So there's no analog conversion. Leland how many of us can run the console? There are so Lisa can run the console. Dada can run the console. I can run the console. And Jared has started training running the console. So a good chunk of us can actually sit in technical director show. I know there are so many buttons. I can give you a tour of how all of that works. You can actually see Carrie Ann out on the set. She's got all four cameras lit up. Then there is actually camera in the control room but Starhopper tomorrow that should be exciting. One way or another it will be exciting. All digitally it goes into the board. So everything comes in Dante. So right off of the wireless system Dante into the board. Out of the board digitally is Maddy into the switcher. Yeah we can do EQ, we can do compression. So if I look at sorry I know that was all bumpy. So if I go here I can actually go up here. Lights in the way. All right there we go. So there are my dynamics. So you can see we've got compression expansion. We've got limiting somewhere on here. We've also got auto mixing turned on. And then you'd ask about EQ. So here's equalization. So we actually notch out the highs and the lows just for vocal area. This is what helps get rid of the train sounds so that you can't hear the trains that go by because we are literally right next to the train track. So hopefully you've never noticed a train go by. You'll sometimes see us like look over because it shakes the building. And then on the really high end this helps get rid of the high air flow noises from the HVAC system. The HVAC kind of notches way down into here. So you'll still be able to hear HVAC. So yeah and then we use the X32 compact because otherwise the board would be just way too big. And then like I said everything comes in digitally. Oh and then automation. So if I were to let's see if I can do this. I don't know if I'll be able to show you but if I come over here and I hit play watch what happens. I'm going to play the outro and you're going to see a bunch of channels automatically mute and unmute. So here we go. I don't know if you can hear it. And then give it a moment you see it doing its thing. It's going to automatically unmute in a moment here. Cool huh? So that's all linked to the CASPERCG system that ran that. I'll just clear that up. So yeah everyone's clapping I know right. So let's see here. Okay so that's the control room. We have a boatload of iPads because one time I thought everyone was going to have iPads. What is the production cost per episode? It depends. It's probably about probably about $300 to $400 per episode. That does not include that assumes that we've already paid for the venue. Actually that's a good point. I need to get a I need a calculator to figure that out. Because I got to include venue and venue and whatnot. So this is where Carian and I sit because I don't want to be on camera anymore. We're actually like way back over here now. We used to be directly to behind data and we've actually moved back to this angle. And then we're actually covered up by Dada when he's sitting at his chair which is kind of nice. So there you go. And then because this also used to be our new set if I turn around you can actually see what we used to see. Oh that was the table. So there used to be lights up there but they're gone and then we actually had all of the sound from here to help absorb the sound from when we were talking straight into that wall and yeah. Yeah there you go. There you go and then sound from there. Alright so let's go this way. We actually have a green room now so let's check this out. I got green chairs for the green room because I'm nerdy like that. After every show, oh it's actually pretty cool. So oh sorry we're going to take another walk. Let me pop these cameras up. So I'm going to do camera 2 bring camera 2 up on program and then should I do anything else? That's good enough. Alright so that's what we should see in the other room. It's alright. I'm not super picky on the name stuff right now. I get it. It's hard. So if you're sitting in the you can see me over there. We don't actually have a green screen. We should sell tickets to the green room. No we don't need to sell tickets. We just show up for a live show. You feel free to just show up and hang out with us. We want to get together and geek out yeah geek out over space. Johnny Cheese, what floor is this? This is a two-story building. We are on the second floor but there's no you can't really see anything great. So here's the green room. You can see Carrie Ann. So this is the program monitor. That is an ISS above from Liam. Those are freaking awesome. There are commercials that play on there. It tells you when the ISS is going to be overhead. This is one of Duda's preview screens. So you can see what's about to be on air. And then you've also got full audio in this room. And then we'll have our guests. Our guests will sit out here or our guests are guests. Don D we're in California. We're in Orange County. If you're ever over it by Disneyland we're like two miles away from Disneyland. If you ever want to visit for a live show feel free anytime. So this is where the guests would sit. And then what people don't necessarily know is like right here is a little Bluetooth speaker thingy which links directly, I know, green chairs packs. It was done on purpose, like the green and gray chairs. Like I wanted all green but everyone talked me out of that. But I still think the green is amazing. For the green room, I was going to paint one of the walls green and they were like no, no, that's too far. So that is what allows us I'll show you the pics in a moment, Johnny. Well, tomorrow is better. It's like different than Disneyland. So what we do after every show is we have a post-show recap and we bring in remote hosts and Colton via Zoom, the same system that we use to bring our guests in and we talk about what went right, what went wrong and it usually takes like a good 30 minutes to an hour after every show to kind of go over like what's working what's not working because we're trying to make you know we're trying to make these shows really engaging and while I think we have a pretty good product and I think we have a really good and dynamic show, I don't think we're actually engaging yet I don't think we're exciting. I think news is really, really well done. I'll show you the fix tank in a second as well. News feels really well done but I think the live show still needs a lot of love. We're getting better at these things but we're certainly nowhere near where we need to be. Alright, so I promised the pictures. These HB1, do you remember who did the pictures? Ron Gayet does these pictures. I think it's R-O-N-G-Y-E-T-T Yeah, I might be on one of them. So we have different planets. So here's Mercury. I love these. We've had these for years. Pax is here for the rockets. Well, I mean, Sage 2, I have lost 50 pounds. 5-0 pounds, I'm sorry, I don't know how many kilos that is. It's probably around 18-19 kilos. Yeah, James, it is a matter of refining the show process. I think it's a lot of technical side Ooh, lots of reflections, sorry. Let's see if I can... Not really. Alright, so there's those. And I'll show you the other photos as we come up the stairs as well. I don't know if it's available for download but you can definitely buy it. We bought it. And then here's the horrible, horrible fish tank. These are Lisa's fishies. The problem is Lisa is in New Zealand and none of us have been taking care of the fish. The fish tank is kind of gross. There are a bunch of alive fish in here. How they're still alive is beyond me. But there they are swimming around and there are snails in there too. Oh my God, so many of them. So many of them. That's how they're all alive. We've let the ecosystem go crazy. So there you go. There's the fish tanks. Let me show you before we go into the main area. We actually have Ron's pictures everywhere because we think they're amazing. What's his Twitter handle? R-O-N. Wait, come over here. Yeah, come here. I figured you could tell everyone. Fine. R-O-N-G-U-Y-A-T-T. And that's his Twitter handle too. R-O-N-G-U-Y-A-T-T. Alright, so there's that picture. Then we've also got these. I'll show you the set in a minute. Oh yeah, that seems about right, Wicked. Thank you. Oh yeah, I'll show you the bathroom because we actually had fun even in the bathroom. There is kind of a... So there you go. And by the way, these photos go all the way down to the main area. I'll show you those on the way out so you can kind of see how we go in. And we actually had to replace these, the railings because we didn't like the way they looked. This wall is supposed to have our logo on it. We've had a really hard time getting it to stick to the wall because we wanted actually to be pressed away from the wall. So now I'm kind of at a squirrel assistant. And then the ceiling tiles are also... Water leak, that's gross. But the ceiling tiles are all acoustic panels. And we have more of his photos over here, or his pictures. We really like Ron Gaiat's work if you can't tell. He also, yeah, that's right, he did stuff. So you'd ask to see, check this out. So the bathroom, we actually created the same sign that they have in 2001. You can't buy this. So we actually had to find the typeface that they used and then actually figure out all of the type, like all of the text. And we actually, word for word, exactly, faithfully recreated the entire zero G restroom instructions that you can see for a split second on 2001 of Space Odyssey, which I think is absolutely hilarious. So that is the door to our restroom. And why? Because I'm a nerd. Oh, oh, why? So our studio has exactly our tech pack, what city is our studio? And we're in Anaheim, California. We're about two miles away from Disneyland. Our studio has exactly 2001 square feet. Just happenstance. And so I was like, ah! Alright, so the restroom is actually one area that we never painted and never did much with. So there's not a whole lot like, it's not awesome. Right? I mean, that's all there is to it. Super great. But we have the cool sign. Alright, let's head in here. So this is the back end of Dada's set. So if you ever think we're green screen, we're not. You can actually see the bubbling of the image on the back. But it is, we do light the set where we think the actual sun or star would come from. Yeah, so here, I'll try to do my best with showing you the lighting. But here's the side of the set. Anytime we have a guest in person, oh, there's Vax's signature. We asked them to sign the side of the set. Apparently Peter Quinn can't make it. Oh. That's too bad. There you go. So these are all the people. Alejandro, that's funny. People think it's CG because it's because you did it very well. Yeah, it's really done well. Actually, there are a lot of things that are not done well and we use the some of the camera stuff to kind of get around that. So here's the back of the set. This is all Dada magic back up here, right? He was struggling to figure out how to create these three-dimensional shapes and have them all hold together because our set is literally made of wood. And if I come back around to the other side, I'll walk you through the whole back and I promise. But like, look how incredible that looks from this side. Isn't that amazing? Yes, it's permanent marker. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And there's stuff on the other side too. So if we come over here, we've got even more. Yeah. And the nice thing is everyone signed on these particular panels. If you look, there's actually, see if you can see it. There's actually a seam right there and it kind of comes down. That's because if we ever move studios or we need to move the set, these panels with all the signatures come off and we can transport them over to the new set. So this is what the set looks like. I think the best angle of the set is like right about here. I think this looks really great from right here. The problem is when we come over this way and we shoot this way, you lose all the detail of the set. I don't think it's as cool. All right, let's go behind the set. Oh, you wanted to see lighting. So for the backlights, I'm going to kick off. No, I'm not. Normally we don't have the fluorescent lines on as well, but you can see there are three backlights. These are quasar science. This is an eight foot quasar science tube. These are four foot quasar science tubes. They're specifically designed for cinema and film and they're, I forget their color accuracy, but it's obscenely scary accurate. So we've got those sitting up top and then when we go around the back we've got some flow lights, blade lights with the we've got the hard edge installed so you get like you can see what's in front of the chairs. I don't understand. You mean back here? Yeah, here. I'm just going to walk you behind the set. So as we walk back here, there's a bit of a curve. You can actually see where we had to build a fake wall and you can see where I'm doing, I've got a green piece of fabric back here because I'm doing chroma key testing to see if we can replace the planet with a chroma key instead. We're actually doing pretty good. And if you look up, you can actually see more of those these are four foot quasar science areas. Oh, there's a story to the opera hostel. Let me forget to tell you about that story. Yeah, Raj, it's designed, it's supposed to look like the enterprise and here you can see kind of the back area. You can see another one of the lights on the floor and you can see more of them sitting up on the set itself. I mean, that's not sketchy. It's fine. There you go. And then as we get closer and closer into the inky blackness of space, like so we've got the one on the floor, as we get closer to the inky blackness of space, we stop. You'll notice that this looks crappy. Right. So let's see if I can get that back in focus. Not quite. So there's a difference between this material here and this material here. And the reason is we originally thought that we needed to make the graphic matte. And so we actually got like a matte spray and we began spraying this side of it until we realized how awful it absolutely looked. And so we got two panels in before we were like, stop. This is terrible. And the problem is the matte won't come off. I'll go into finances in a second. I need a moment to figure that out. So the nice thing is from an electricity standpoint, these are all LED lights. So they don't take that much power. So but I think that the set from even back here, here's an angle you don't normally get. This is pretty cool. And what's amazing is there are here's what I love. There are people who work in film and cinema, who have like film and cinema YouTube channels who complain. They're like, oh, drop the cheesy CGI set and just do it. I'm like, it's not a CGI set people. It's a real set. Yeah. I mean, you might think it's cheesy, but this is real. Yeah, this is real. I think it's really cool. I like it a lot. One of the reasons I wanted it to be real is I wanted some camera movement. Like I want to have, I want to be able to kind of do like from the front, like have a little bit of like this kind of like, sorry, I'm not very steady, but kind of have like a little bit of this. Like while we're live kind of going around to get that really cool three dimensional. Yeah, I don't think it's cheesy. I think it's awesome. Yeah, everyone to each their own. So also continuing on. Yeah, go ahead. George asked why replace the real planet with chroma key? Oh, so part of the reason to replace the real planet with chroma key is if you look, we're having problems with the planet again. So look over there. It's a little bit hard to see on camera, but you see that like, let me, sorry, come around this way. You might be able to see it easier from this angle. There you go. See that bubble? That is where the graphic is yet again pulling away from the wall very slowly and it will continue to do that until basically the graphic falls off and we basically we've had to replace this graphic three times now. Yeah, each time we replace the graphic is just under 10 grand. So that sucks and I'm sick of doing it. So I don't want to do that anymore. I want a solution that's a little bit more permanent. Yeah, we can put up yo, yeah, so catch a replace and put up a new one. Yeah, it's the fricking cost of it. That's what sucks. So the thing is, yeah, key it exactly. So the thing is I can put a key back here and I can make it look pretty decent and I don't have it handy. I actually have an example of what that looks like. But yeah, it'll be a big, big green wall. The thing is, this is what it looks like in person, right? So this is what I see and when we bring guests in here and when you show up in person into the studio, it's pretty cool to have this giant planet back here instead of a giant green wall. My question is it would be green screen to avoid the problem with blue jeans and with blue eyes. Also green on our digital sensors will look better. So we don't want to, I'm sorry, I'm really going to study it all here. All right, there we go. So just build a small space scrap to hide it. So yeah, in Roanac, you guys are kind of hitting on it. If we have a green screen, we can put video back there instead of just a still image and so the planet could slowly rotate. We could have weather events on the planet. We could have hilarious things pop by once in a while like just like a little tie fighter war off in the corner. I probably wouldn't do that with guests, but like for a show like this. The problem is, oh, and actually you can actually see the lighting effects. So see these lights, let me see if I can get my finger in the frame. So see these lights up here. They're actually purposely shining in the same direction is the light that hits the graphic so that you get that sunlight effect going through the windows that follows the light from the graphic itself to create that kind of cool illusion which also shines on the floor down there. Now we also have the overhead lights on where the effect is minimized. But yeah. So I think we could have fun with the green except that in person it will be green and I'm not sure it will be as cool or because it's a giant green screen you'll kind of have that really cool like oh my god I'm on set feeling. I'm not sure. I really, for tomorrow I want us to be less of a hey this is really cool I'm on set feeling in more of a oh my god this is the future of space feeling. And I feel like having the planet in person is better. The other problem with green screen or chroma key is that doing a really good chroma key live is very difficult to do. You lose detail you lose detail like you lose detail in hair you get kind of these edges against hard like you get these hard edges against the arms and whatnot yeah I would use monitors in the window slots but you need to understand how huge these slots are like it could you stand next to one of those windows for me how big is this screen that is a 65 inch screen right so carrying standing next to a 65 inch screen right so that's the giant window and now just stand over here yeah these are also really big yeah I'm 5'4 but still like yeah these are even Jared is tall so we would need one 65 inch screen essentially we could do smaller screens for these but one two probably need and then like a 43, 4, 5 we need one per thing and then the other problem is like this screen element much like it's reflecting here will reflect and we will lose some of the actual proper 3D effect I think alright so I haven't done this area yet so then the actual fill lights we've got Kino flows but the lamps have been removed and they're replaced with more of the quasar science lamps so these are 4x4 Kino flow well quasar science Kino flow lamps with the ball mounts attached to the ceiling and then we've got the black magic studio cameras so if we look at these they're micro four thirds or MFT they're running in 4k mode but we're using LC fiber optic out of the camera where the other guy oh this is just a this is just a ad hoc hangout and then we've got power we don't use so everything optical out of the camera and then we're not using any of the electrical out of the camera and we've got a Limpus lenses and then so the these cameras on either side this camera in this camera are kind of the tight talent camera shots and then this camera in the middle is our camera two shot it's the wide shot you can see it's currently hitting Karyan also the camera support tally lights so we can actually see which cameras on air microphones are lapel mics and so we're not wearing any right now they're in the other room yeah and then here you can see a giant screen tip on its side that's the old hologram screen and it actually has the old hologram mac mini literally velcroed to it so there you go on the back we velcroed the mac mini onto the back of the computer and then this allows the hosts there's actually a special hosts room that they can monitor right yeah and then they can actually when they're monitoring the host room they can actually see what all the different questions are and they can actually reference the screen instead of needing to have a an iPad which is why we have so many iPads because originally we were going to use that and then we realized the screen is so much better the reason the screen is nice instead of iPads is when they had iPads their heads were constantly down looking at the iPads and not the guest and so they looked like they weren't engaged but with the screen they always have to be looking up Hi Peter Quinn everyone was concerned that you were going to miss this uh yeah I can be right from that far away and my vision is not fantastic can I have the iPad? so I know it's not going to give you a good representation right but like this is effectively your view or my view when I'm on camera right so I can see which camera I'm on I can see the chat room yes I can read that from there even though on this screen it looks fuzzy AF um yeah but this is actually pretty big text this is really this is all I look at which is kind of funny because then people sometimes say a lot of things like hey like don't you get freaked out like when you're on camera you're talking to all those people and whatnot and I'm like it's not the same you're actually you're in a big huge room that's empty and you're talking to a camera at a time it's like you're having a conversation with friends it's it's just not as big of a deal as it sounds I guess I don't think you need to tell like again the camera is not really properly showing how like it really in person the text is closer to like yeah that's about what it looks like in person to us definitely readable from here so this is about how readable it is to us on set because I understand that this is a fairly wide camera on the iPad so yeah there's the tally lights so I know that I'm on this camera I know my camera too because of the red light there you go there's a little red light at the top of the camera that's how she knows right and we have the confidence screen down here that shows us so this is what's uh that's what's on air right now that's preview that's what's about to be on air the individual camera shots the guest shot the Apple TV uh social media and the DDR so we can see what Dada has staged yeah which is nice because then I can see that yeah yeah isn't there like a don't you doesn't the guest have a video I think oh yeah I know we've got this you know Dada will call it up I can see it in preview I can like then of course say oh great there's that video we can roll that now what have you right like it's really that confidence monitor is everything that in the chat room monitor make the show for sure neat right so yeah and I think this is our special sauce right so when we're like we're live with community participation we're not we're not kidding there's not a huge delay between chat and screen that's usually enough to be able to keep up the conversation all right kind of moving over here these are the extra chairs and what we like to call the moon tables and then a heater because the heat in this building doesn't work for us so you can see and each one of these chairs was freaking expensive they are amazing they are amazing I like them but they were expensive and then we're also toying and playing with the idea of having confidence screens on the side of the set which is why this screen is here that would allow so you can see Carrie Ann so if we look like this you can see that she would be able to look towards her camera and also see like the chat room or confidence screen without looking awkward right right interview I got my co-host and I got into a chat room right there so that my eye level from here to here is minimal that you're not really going to be able to tell necessarily even when I'm on camera that I'm looking somewhere else I realize that the microphone is with me yeah right so that's my confidence monitor if I have a co-host here this is my interview right and I'm looking at my co-host I can look at my monitor I can look at my co-host I can look at my monitor and you know this might feel like I'm looking like in big steps but it's really not alright let's see what else we got here coming around the backside kind of a little bit of storage and what not these are the tables we use to build the set some electrical that's we're not sure we never painted this area so you can actually see oh yeah the ceiling tiles are also black acoustic panels inside of the studio space itself which is kind of a fun when you transition from the hallway into the studio you move from gray slash white acoustic tiles over to black acoustic tiles so that's this kind of cool feeling when that happens and then we painted that wall black and this wall black much the chagrin of the landlord here you can see more of the backside of the set this is a full wall that Dada had to build to kind of extend out so we could get more and then yeah you can see where the ceiling tiles these are the og ceiling tiles just the horrible white no nothing yeah we do not have a teleprompter for the news show you might notice in the news show we're all every one of us is holding an iPad so what we have to do is we have to memorize our lines for when we're on camera and then what we do is we know when we're going to be off camera so it's only one or two sentences that we need to memorize and then we hold up the iPad and we just begin reading from the iPad because we're not on camera at that point and that prevents a huge change in the shift in audio fidelity while at the same time allowing us to kind of look at the camera lens itself and so sometimes you see us kind of look up from the iPad and back down that's legitimate like we actually are stopping to read the stopping our script looking up engaging with the camera and then looking back down at the script James Johnson asked do you see the glare from where you sit or is it clear oh it's both so it's off right now which is going to create extra glare but let me you mean this TV or that TV either way right so that on this TV there's no glare because it's white so it's really easy to see am I reading now or is this you yes we're reading this now actually here here's your comment on our screen Peter Quinn still having computer issues there you go so now you can kind of see it's when I come back to collect the two shot we've kind of staged it so there's a lot less glare but yeah we need to we need to do more kick yeah when you think back to what this is like originally and where we came from this is a little bit crazy right this is like the amount of time love sweat and tears that went into it is insane I was going to try to set it yeah that doesn't work very well no I love the the double chin shots amazing thank you yeah you're welcome I'm just going to hide like this fine how many people total work on a episode of tomorrow just our heads that's not too terrible it depends on how you look at it right so you've got say you have two people who are hosting that day you've got somebody who found the guests the guests themselves if you want to count them the two people who are hosting assuming that there's two people hosting that day we've got our director and usually the two of us are producing all at the same time the thing to remember is we do pay our people but we don't pay ourselves so you were asking about costs earlier I need to get it calculated great no that's fine I will continue to talk to you because that's the way this works now yeah so yeah it just it depends on how you look at it right hopefully the co-hosts are doing some sort of research throughout the week so they can speak intelligently about what our guest is speaking about good enough questions you know some guests are just harder to work with there's always that kind of thing and you know sometimes stuff comes up like this week Maju had to bow out of this week and so Jarrod had to do it solo I think Jarrod did a really nice job particularly like considering considering like how all voice is too low bring it in bring it in I could yell if you want but nobody wants that I need to be lower or you need to be higher no I'm short so that's the way this works alright alright keep talking will Jade and Sarah be back honestly not entirely sure Jade has been a little bit under the weather so she will probably be back soonishly I imagine there's some sort of weird mono thing that's going around and then Sarah not really sure she's been doing some adventures out in the wild thankfully she's come home every time but not entirely positive what's going on there we pay our people but this obviously isn't their only their only job right so I can't really control when they're on and not on but we do pay them when they're here for sure we don't pay it but we can't afford to pay a lot so we pay as much as we can someone had asked earlier again like how much does it cost per show and if you look at just the amount that we pay our people it's about $400 the studio space we just walked you through the electrical bill the internet bill all that other fun jazz the actual and you divide you take all that and divide by four you end up at around $1,150 per episode is how much it costs to produce the live show which is why I keep looking at the live show going yeah it's so expensive as opposed to news which costs a lot less to produce and it gets so many more views but I think the live show is important I go back and forth on the live show I think the live show is important this stuff is important too getting the community together just hanging out I think it's fun sure we're doing a studio tour we can't do that every time Raj you don't need to worry about that I'm not super picky on name or pronouns it's fine Leland if he sees you traveling all over the world totally that's something that she loves to do we don't ever want to keep her from doing that we ask her that if she ever has any content that she wants to throw over to us we'll gladly consider it and potentially put it up and of course pay her for that time but it doesn't necessarily always happen so I mean there's that I wanted to do more like I want these letting off seems to be given to the host and they can just take it and run with it and I've offered this to them and I'm like take it take it take it because I don't want to be on camera anymore it's important to me on a personal level to not be on camera I've just I've realized that that's just not viable right now so yeah and it is nice to be back on camera for a bit but I mean realistically I'm in the awkward phase and I'm not comfortable and so I don't like being on camera and it's going to get worse before it gets better it will get better but it's going to get worse before it gets better somebody asked about the fish earlier they are a version of goldfish they are not dying they are not dying which I guess is good I'm not really sure I believe there's 6 of them although I only counted 5 when I looked over the tank Daniel says there ever been a time when you're both ready to call it quits that's an interesting thing yes but never at the same time which is how they'll show how they'll survive for so long because Carrie Ann would get fed up with it and she'd be like no we can charge through it just a little bit longer and then I would convince her to keep going through it and then I would get fed up with it and be like no one's doing anything I'm doing all the heavy lifting we don't have any viewers no one cares none of what you just said is true well you're being emotional stop it so yeah almost never at the same time never at the same time yes Daniel McCool despite attempts to kill the fish they live on I don't know how it's super crazy oh yeah that would be a good idea although neither one of us have a tripod or a telescope but there's a lot of star party stuff going on out here actually sorry there's a lot of stuff I know curious who Tawikid is well WK we know him as Tawikid sorry Wicked Wicked is an interesting personality I think Wicked is an AI I'm just kidding I'm just kidding yeah Wicked actually no offense that is actually kind of how I describe you you are our favorite troll who's the thing Wicked is a bit of a troll but because he has that background he can sense it and he can understand it and he's one of our best moderators oh a million percent but yeah he's gonna get under your skin what he does azeris? when is Elon coming to the show Elon has been on the show we generally have the thing with tomorrow is that we are very this is gonna sound egotistical and I don't mean it this way it's actually to our detriment we are ahead of the industry by like five years and so we had Elon on the show back in the falcon one days he did a one on one interview with me he was pretty cool super intimidating he was very late boom boom and we were very early on in our show so it wasn't the best interview ever I think we do a much better job now the problem is it's much harder to get him on anything you just don't see him on shows like this ever much like Wicked I'm pretty sure he is he just works all the time so we make fun of Wicked but Wicked is awesome that is on purpose so yeah so I don't foresee us getting Elon on also I don't think we want Elon Elon likes to stick to Elon's talking points I think there are many amazing people in spacex that I would love to get on my first pick is Gwen Shotwell my next pick is Tom Mueller Tom Mueller would be really cool there are just a lot of really amazing people Johnny Cheese you should be able to search for it actually but you might have to search for it as Spacevidcast it was on our old channel Spacevidcast V-I-D-C-A-S-T but Spacevidcast Elon Musk and it should pop up or Elon Musk's space pod something along those lines it should pop up it wasn't very good I'm sorry I was still honing my interview skills and I was super intimidated but yeah far behind the throne yes somebody said that you haven't heard our neighbors in a while some of our neighbors changed some of their hours changed but they are definitely still there and very loud so there's definitely that Leland that's a good point well Spacex is very cool but not the only show we agree it's super annoying to me when the spacex fanboys come out in droves for only the spacex shows and I'm sitting here going but there's blue origin but there's like Vulcan is actually kind of cool SLS while a total cluster and while I'm not sure I agree with it it's still a cool rocket star star like there's a lot of really amazing stuff Dream Chaser is really cool all of this amazing stuff happening in space it's not just Spacex look at all these cool things Mastin's another great one I'm officially excited for Virgin Orbit and Virgin Galactic I think they're coming online for real not like the joking 6 months out I think, oh thank you for the JKA, thank you for the Super Chat, I appreciate it Peter Beck Electron, exactly and that's another one we had Peter Beck on before Electron ever flew Years, he was still talking about their fuel that they had custom designed Oh my goodness yes Yeah so we like to bring people on whenever possible is bring people on well before their ideas are fully mature or flying bring them on again right after they've initially flown that first time and then wait for them to get operations in place and bring them on a third time So Alejandro says Peter Beck has to come back to talk about Electron Oh yeah absolutely You know I assume he flies to the US fairly often so hopefully Stop messing with it Stop messing with it Here Yeah So and actually Lisa is a huge driving force I'm being groomed on camera Makeup Oh yeah he needs that's right Peter Beck needs to basically give back my 20 bucks I feel like It's framed down, you can't have that back We'll pass it back and forth There you go Say again thank you, yeah, Ernie was super cool, he was really fascinating a really really nice guy really enjoyed having him on I like him because he is one of those people who just cares about space, right? I mean he's in this because he believes in space Yeah he has a company to run too but he's rooting for everyone he's a lot like us if that makes sense and so I really like Tori from that regard and yeah I fundamentally disagree with the reusability on Vulcan but as a person I think Tori is amazing Dan asked can we have Will Palmer as back on now Yeah that should be really soon, we've had some scheduling conflicts with him like he's had some stuff going on, we've had some stuff going on but we are actively working on that for sure Dave Anderson asked if we've heard of a company called Made in Space So here's the funny thing about Made in Space Yes we have, we've actually had them on a number of times, we met them back in 2009, Made in Space didn't exist at the time some of the founding partners of Made in Space were working on a Google Learner X Prize vehicle at the time and we met them then at the International Space Development Conference thanks to Tim Bailey anyway so we've known those guys for a really long time again we've had them on a couple of times Justin Coopler was the latest person we've had on I believe that was earlier this year and his daughter stole the entire show Oh my god it was the most amazing interview Peter Lund is asking about John Carmack we actually met Carmack Carmack would be amazing to have on we interviewed him back in the day Carmack would be amazing to start Armadillo back up That would be cool too He said he is back open to giving more interviews so that might be a thing that we'd be able to do we met him back 2008-2009 right in there somewhere on Northrop Coven Lunarlander Challenge in Las Cruces, New Mexico What's the new name for that one? The thing is that again much like Jamie said we have a tendency to be a little bit ahead of ourselves we interviewed John Carmack back in the day we met him we interviewed him and that was great but it hasn't been until lately that he has decided again to be open back up to interviews and whatnot Someone asked about Zubrin probably not we also have had Zubrin on that one was in Chicago that year I appreciate Zubrin's passion but his unwillingness to look at other options other than Mars Direct he is laser focused like that's just not how things work thank you Wiccan I think that was last year awesome he doesn't mean to but I think he inadvertently works against the space industry and that isn't something that I really want to bring on the show because I don't think that there is only one way to get to Mars there isn't only one way to it's not only Zubrin's plan and it seems like Zubrin is only interested in Zubrin's plan and if you're not with Zubrin's plan then you're an idiot so I just not the mentality that we have on tomorrow it's not something I want to bring on Johnny Cheese is asking about Jim Bridenstine or Jeff Bezos Bridenstine was really controversial for those of us on tomorrow for quite a while we weren't really sure how we felt about him right at first some people were yay some people were nay I was not okay with the politician running NASA I think that would be an okay interview Bezos actually we've tried for quite a while their gatekeepers are not interested in us in any way shape or form so I can't really blame them there's that Mike is asking for a couple more people from JPL those interviews were pretty fun they're coming up actually I think one of our next interviews from JPL I believe over the next month you should see some more people from JPL everyone can thank Lisa for all of that these amazing guests that we've had on that's not me, that's not Carrie Ann that's all Lisa, she's been booking these she's been kicking ass and taking names and she's been in New Zealand the entire time so she's been booking everything upside down it's amazing thank you Wicked again our number 14th show is supposed to be from JPL Emily Loctawalla would actually be a good one yeah Loctawalla we thank you Zephen we met Emily Loctawalla at a space up actually it was a space up San Diego the second one or third one something along those lines if you haven't heard of space ups please go look those up I believe it's spaceup.org spaceups started in San Diego by one Chris Radcliffe yeah I think I should have the rest of my should be a purple one in there that's open yeah met Emily and one of the spaceups again spaceups are really amazing they are unconferences so regular conferences really quickly you go there thank you Wicked again for the link you you go to conferences and everything's already said the speakers already said the topics already said it and unconferences you show up and whatever it is that you want to talk about you fill out and you say you want to talk about it and then people come to your talk or they decide yeah they want to team up with you and talk about that topic so it's great spaceups are amazing they are powered by the people if you will I know there was a couple other Tim Pike or Professor Brian Cox again people that we've actually tried to get a hold of not with great success but we can of course try more with that Wayne Hale Wayne Hale is a great one we've exchanged some emails with Wayne again very busy guy so we'll see kind of how that goes and you know it's it's hard some people are really happy and willing and wanting to give us an interview at not 10 a.m. Saturday morning their time right so it's really difficult sometimes to say hey but we're live and we know that we're tiny we're not the today show we're not CNN we're not BBC right but we have a passionate audience we do have a passionate audience engaged and listening and like wants to hear what you have to say they're not passive like other shows right this is like our our when you look at our charts yeah we don't have a lot of viewers we don't have a lot of subscribers but our retention rate is very high and the people who watch the show stay for most of the show which is unheard of on YouTube like again look at our comments on YouTube they're actually like um you know Raj I knew I'm somehow you said pike and I I knew you meant peak somehow anyway so I got that that's kind of funny um you're not the today show we're the tomorrow show how Mike in here all day yeah so Dr. Anita Sanguta actually so Anita Sanguta Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson all kind of fall into the same sort of category where typically speaking they have a tendency to regardless of of what kind of speaking they would be doing they would be charging you for that event and so it we can't afford it we can't afford that unfortunately it's just it's just not a thing that is available to us you know we have $10,000 stickers and we have to replace um yeah so it's that that's the thing right like sometimes it's gatekeeping right sometimes basis is people look at us and they're like you must be joking that's we got close once and we did well because I accidentally close yeah yeah because I my technique is all right I know the gatekeepers won't let me through so I was like let's see if we can go around the gatekeepers I went around the gatekeepers I got to the last moment and then they were like oh we should really quickly check with the firm and I was like no no no no and the firm was like thank you very much for your continued interest like yeah that was that so there's there's a lot of that kind of stuff and again there's people who are only paid to speak although I will say Bill Nye very specifically back in the day when we were covering shuttle launches live I want to say 133 came on and spoke with us for a good long time some of that is actually thanks to one Ryan Cobra on that who goodness what is the company he works for now there was a NASA for a while I can't believe I'm blanking on this I apologize well if we had a time machine which guests from history with each of you most like have on Goddard would be cool Von Braun would be cool I'm iffy on Von Braun because sketchy background to be fair though Disney interviewed him and they did an entire TV show so it's okay yeah Corelev is another good one yeah Sagan is actually a really good one too Sagan would be amazing that would be a 17 hour show yeah amazing yeah we'd be like don't stop Corelev is a really good one yeah so Jonathan Tucker says but you can pray to tell and show more in depth and most do the live nature and openness I think so but a lot of people hate that too especially since in live you can make mistakes so like we're very raw and a lot of a lot of people in science are up on their I was just answering a question on Twitter or not Twitter on YouTube today they were like you got docking versus birthing wrong don't be fake news this is what it's called you have to call it this because that's technically correct and the thing is no it's not it's technically incorrect NASA is using the term wrong knowingly and that's not what the defined definition is that's not what it's used for in the Navy so technically I'm correct and who cares get out of your ivory tower use terminology people understand that's what makes sense and as soon as you say something like that you just piss off the science community something fierce and they're like fine off and they leave Co-Brick works for Ember Riddle Aeronautical University E-R-E-U yeah I apologize that was a complete brain fart on my part it is fun to talk about high-tech and niche stuff like we're all us you everyone watching we're all space geeks together that's why I think this type of show letting off steam just sitting here and chatting with you that's why I think these are just as important and I realized that on our old live show format we had that third segment of community comments and we got rid of that and we lost to this moment that's why we're having this show today I want to have this moment I actually want to do this weekly now it can't be me weekly because again I don't want to be on camera but like this is something we should be doing with you guys constantly because we just want to get together and nerd out right yeah Michael Collins would be amazing Neil Armstrong sure Hubble Jules Verne yeah I don't see why not all the way around a couple of people have mentioned like astronaut Scott Kelly Mike Massimino I saw came by a couple other astronauts we again have interviewed a good number of astronauts Leela Melvin I think was one of my favorites and also somehow strangely one of my almost disappointing again when we were covering space shuttle launches and I don't remember which one that one was I want to say it was 32 or 34 he came by and we were just kind of talking with him just trying to get to know him a little bit before we went on before we went live on camera and you know I was starving at the time so what we did was we packed some snacks and I opened up an uncrustables and for those of you who are not familiar with uncrustables it effectively is a peanut butter jelly sandwich but it's been pressed so the crust is actually cut off and so it's just this sort of round weird cookie cutter variation but inside is stuff the peanut butter and jelly by the way welcome new member Matt thank you very much for signing up for membership on YouTube we appreciate it that's awesome and I open up one of those and he was like what is that that's amazing we broke an astronauts brain what do you mean and so I had to describe it to him and tell him exactly what it was can I have one it was like oh yeah anyone who's ever seen Leland speak he's very enthusiastic he's very he's really warm he's just he's a very touching individual you know you probably have even seen his his official NASA photos with him and his dogs as gorgeous gorgeous Ridgeback dogs and and it's amazing however as soon as we turn the cameras on he went into straight up NASA mode oh yes and these and they said oh no of course these are the things and yeah and this is what I'm really looking forward to and it was like what just happened go back go back to the human we want the human we don't want the NASA astronaut we want like we want to understand he was a person and I think I think I think stereotypically speaking that a lot of astronauts have gotten better over the years have gotten better since then they've understood that they they can be human and that they should be human and try to give that human factor back to to that face to NASA right but back in the day that it was just not something that they wanted to do exactly we don't interview press releases it's a good way of really putting it down we hate those so much and it's frustrating and it feels not just dehumanizing but it actually almost in a weird way feels disrespectful to our community you you guys are not idiots by any means you're enthusiasts and you know the things that you like and you want to hear more things that you do like and you know that's the kind of stuff that we want to give to you this is kind of stuff that we want to hear I have no need to exactly interview a press release who cares I can read that that's not that interesting to me it was brought up earlier we should think differently and bring on someone from ISRO we have tried they just don't want to think we oftentimes are just viewed as a small web page a small blog you know we're two kids in a basement really doing this cute little internet show you know nowhere closer than the numbers of iJustine obviously nowhere clear like PewDiePie which you know right like when you look at our numbers and you look at who we are when you look at where we came from although we are one of the longest standing video space podcasts that exist mm-hmm one of the longest the next longest if I if I'm correct I'm near positive is the one came from NASA NASA Edge was on longer than we've been you know I think you were shorter than us I'm near positive they were on it doesn't matter I think they started right after the thing is though that we've been on for a really long time but it looks like our numbers are kind of crap for how long we've been on and so went thank you but when somebody like ISRO looks at us they go why would we care why would we want to grant that without actually looking at the content which is a little bit unfortunate yeah I the thing without looking at the content or without looking at the community right again you look at the community comments on YouTube and they're really engaging and dynamic and exciting and amazing just awesome comments that you just don't see on YouTube and my fear is that if we try to focus on growing the sheer number of subscribers as opposed to growing the community which I think are two different things growing the numbers will break the community and it is important to me that we make it is fundamental to me that this is a community first show not a numbers first show I will say from an ego standpoint the numbers feel real good like I really like shows that have higher view kinds I really like it when we get you know a mass influx of new subscribers but I only like it when that mass influx also creates new people excited in space not just the Elon muskets not just the space sexes is everything and nothing else matter people who are genuinely interested in space as a whole and humanity getting out there and willing to comment and get excited about this stuff I love those people I love finding those people I love bringing them in I love communicating with them I love talking with them I just think that's fun I know you don't have to worry about that I'm not going to read that comment on air but yeah no you don't have to worry about that Matt that's actually a really great point that has already gone past but basically that there was the 24 hour broadcast that Lisa did that the interesting stuff was between the technical talks that's what we aim for we aim for the interesting stuff between the technical talks there's also why we killed after dark which I realize a lot of people kind of got pissed off at because they're like that was my favorite part is because it was the organic human conversation it was the interesting stuff after the technical part right and I was basically like why the hell is this happening after the show this needs to happen in the show and we're still working on rolling it into the show and getting that proper feeling but it doesn't belong after the show that should be the show after dark should be the show a little bit more on space topic but like that's yeah that's what it needs to be and so yeah yeah space TV it's rising how few subs you have but as you said their quality subs at least you don't attract a lot of trolls I agree we get a few but that's going to happen anyway that's why we keep to Wicked around at sign no he's freaking good oh no we love Wicked there's absolutely no reason to cause we saw it on our crap it's amazing it's really really good yeah so yeah that's kind of all I got more viewers when after dark started anything else from the community anything else you guys want to talk about before we call it we've been here for just over an hour which it's like nice hanging out yeah I mean we talked about do you have any questions for us give it like 5 10 more minutes is that okay see what you guys got and then we'll answer a few more questions then we'll go we've been on for 69 minutes 30 seconds we've been on for 12 orbits depending upon how you're phrasing your question have you tried doing something similar after dark at the beginning of the show we were talking at length about something kind of like that I think what it really is going to boil down to is the first question in the show will be the most important and it needs to be an open and engaging question that doesn't force them into PR mode we have heard of Amy Scheer title considering she only talks about history things and we only talk about tomorrow things that can be a little bit difficult but there's good like she does the past we do the future we do present and future she doesn't pass but I'm saying like that no we're not ready for earthquakes don't worry about the set though our director built our set trying to answer these as quickly as I'm seeing you want to see the set go back like scroll back and look at the beginning we did a whole tour of the set behind it all of it 11 years give or take yeah actually I would love to once Virgin Galactic is going wouldn't be cool to do the live show from Virgin Virgin Spaceport America all the right words Virgin Port America yeah well and that's again where like we're going to screw things up live and having fact checkers is cool I like that idea a lot but you know cash cash money Jewel 1 2 3 4 you're not wrong again she's very very busy though so trying to get in touch with her trying to get us all together is really difficult do a live group trip to space that would be also she doesn't really do live who share title okay yeah live is complicated Scott Manley has been on the show for sure mm-hmm orbit 10 episodes I don't know wicked on that maybe it might have been orbit 11 episode one I think it was 10 it might have been nine even at what age did I get into science I didn't Johnny cheese is asking Nico she shouldn't have favorite hosts I get where that comes from but like we all bring something different to the james my favorite host I'm trying to get everyone to what I'm doing what I did was I was like this is how I want these shows to feel and then I made everyone like review that I was right thank you wicked 801 oh my god wow I went the wrong way yeah now I knew it was way it was way more than you thought it was yeah Leland life is wrong I have no problems with the stakes either but again there are a lot of scientists in their ivory towers like you made a single mistake everything you say is terrible and awful like oh just calm down it was live jazz I would say we miss you too jazz I would say Jamie is happier and healthier than Ben how's that sure but jazz anyway doesn't matter uh yeah that's true Dan I didn't get into science I got married into it yeah yeah it's not my fault actually well like you know I told you like you clearly need me for this stupid show oh my god I did we'll do this as long as you know we still have stuff to talk about actually a parabolic flight like live stream if we can the air to ground comms or air to space comms might be complicated for life it would be great if the camera just stays still the whole time and you're like oh that's not really much fun you can see people floating around um Johnny not untrue um that would be fun I had a point I lost it not necessarily better than a show on lost jazz throw up not necessarily I'm just saying hey at d23 like the disney every other year conference that they do which by the way we are huge disney fair shush thanks for cutting me off d23 this year they had a huge section of all lost crap and of course I'm not there it's the one year I'm not there and they have all this lost crap I was so mad we are talking to you instead of going to d23 cool so pissed so pissed so dumb you don't know that we don't have a smoke monster we absolutely have a smoke monster in fact it's so bad we had to make sure that we had a fire extinguisher available at all times just take care of the smoke monster oh no lost wasn't good I just really liked it you are better than d23 actually you are better than still really like lost uh scott manly was on three and a half four years ago can we ask him again I mean yeah um we try to focus on people in industry that are making change and like we can bring the ksp people on but like uh johnny cheese we are in california but like um wouldn't you prefer have someone who is actually bending metal on the show um you know trying to trying to make product out of space I think that's kind of where we try to focus our attention that's not to say that we won't bring a scott manly on the show but like I realize that we would have authors on and all this other fun stuff and it turned into it turned into a sales pitch and not that's not what scott manly would do but like that was a problem we had and I didn't want sales pitches I want inspirational techniques like I wanted I wanted to get inspired over space not sold on a new book again that's not scott manly but that's the fundamental idea behind a lot of our uh host just uh appeared on that bbc oh my god that was amazing yeah so bbc america for the apollo 50th like I know that we didn't do a show or anything but we were on bbc america um and we had a bunch of hosts on actually doing these little promo things myself included as well as scott manly as well scott manly and chris had to egotistically our stuff hands down looked the best it was amazing it sounded the best it looked the best it was like wow other than their stuff was okay but they were just like outside with an overblown sky as we say talking on to an ipad but you know I know with an overblown sky can we give you rocket launches you know that's how space big cast got it to start um part of the reason we don't do that anymore is we don't um we don't necessarily see how how to do that in a compelling way um that's above and beyond what the those entities are doing back in the day it was really difficult to watch launches live like nasa was only on windows media player like gross you couldn't even watch in the browser um everything was scattered video was this big and so we we our shtick was high definition browser based coverage of shuttle launches well of all is many launches we could and so um once they started doing that themselves there was a little point for us to do it also uh I used to watch the expanse but then like man uh I like star uh star trek discovery is less star trek discovery more like star exploration discovery like if you make if you take discovery out of the star trek ecosystem and just make it a sci-fi show I think it's good the moment you put it in star trek I think it's really bad star trek but really good sci-fi so John Ellis it's kind of funny uh the way that tim dog covers launches is exactly the way that we used to cover launches back in the day it was one of the suggestions that we had for him uh that he took to heart and took it ran with it and is doing an amazing job with it and honestly why should we compete with that he's doing such a great job on his own doing nothing to offer he's doing great yeah so uh yes but no like there really isn't a reason for it he's already doing it so well yeah oh damn cool and you got to the s.c.s 133 launch awesome five is one of Jamie's favorite things I do love Babylon 5 yeah quite a bit wow you stopped talking after that that was amazing uh I the Orville is definitely where it's at jewel oh my god my favorite sci-fi right now is the Orville absolutely a million percent or the Orville is better star trek than star trek discovery is actually I do have uh so I don't have a sci-fi show that I want to do I have a show I want to do called villains uh the premise of the show is uh we're following a super villain around but like not when he's doing his super he or she is doing their super villainry they're basically it's their everyday life of dealing to look like the paperwork and all the permits to get the volcano layer going uh their minions are just like terrible at their jobs and like constantly having to deal with that HR issues so you see them develop the plan like Chad Bader yeah and then you also get to see them uh unfortunately after the plan doesn't work but you never actually get to see the plan so you see them building up the plan everything up to the evil villain plan but you never actually see them do the evil villain plan but you get to see the aftermath work damn it guys what did that work this time wow that didn't work oh I think that'd be amazing I think it'd be amazing we could Bowsar Galactica was really great too oh Battlestar Galactica do you think Babylon 5 should ever be remade no they kind of tried to do that and uh that's a one and done kind of thing Doctor Horrible yeah a lot like Doctor Horrible yeah but um less singing um and more completely ineptitude less less love life less love life like no love life uh I've seen the Ed Astor trailer I'm actually excited about it Atlantis, Atlantis is gorgeous I like Atlantis, I like Atlantis sure it was beautiful I like Doctor Rodney McCay I think that's a fun character Dave Hewitt I believe Nicos prefers the original I don't uh they're rebooting Babylon I'm bringing back Stargate oh my god please don't I don't know what a good start oh yeah actually I used to love SeaQuest DSV I loved it until they were like and now Aliens I was like cool like they had something new and fresh and different that no one else had been doing and I was like oh this is doing fresh and different no one else is doing it and then they're like and regular sci-fi tropes and I was like ah f*** and so then I stopped watching I think everyone else did too uh yeah Wicked actually I'm going to need to check out another life Katie said alright we're at 80 minutes now I think uh I think we're pretty much done yes yeah uh no that's sparkling water don't be silly probably peach peach water it's one of the one of the ways I was able to lose as much weight as I did was I did three things eat right which includes not drinking sugary drinks like Coke Diet Coke which is really bad like none of that that's all gone so zero everything zero calories zero sugar all that crap that they tell you to do if you do it it works exactly as they say eating right lots of broccoli lots of green things on my plate blah blah I started working out although poorly recently but like started working out we gotta get better at that and then I started doing intermittent fasting as well so yeah I'm on a 16 by 8 schedule with a 24 hour fast once per week well actually no bubbly is really good it's actually quite tasty it's way better than La Croix considering that we both we're from Minnesota so we're required to like La Croix but yeah this is actually really really good it's tasty some are better than others but this helped me kick Coke although I was very badly addicted to sugar so it was used to learn not like that I mean I did have a what I have French toast this morning that was caramel and a chocolate chip cookie pancake anything so good though yeah George you're not wrong I thought the exact same thing that's funny yeah I'm not what I meant yeah anyway thanks guys for hanging out it was fun we'll do it again sometime if you have ideas as to like what we should do next time or if you just enjoy just talking to us for a little while we can almost an hour of that I think went into a tour of the set which we're not going to do every single time but like let us know what you want to talk about and we'll make sure to do these a lot more often I think it's important to have something for us and the community to get together with and chat over space and just talk and chat and have fun so and these don't need to be scripted they don't need to be anything it's just an ad hoc experience and we'll try to do them at different times on different days so that everyone around the world can experience it alright that's all thank you everyone bye it was a lot of fun oh I have to press buttons oh no this is the awkward part awkward part