 Big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast, like- Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely official, Ms. Jamaica. Yeah, my dad will all go on. Hey man, how you doing? I'm good. Man, it's going down, man, so we gotta guest here today, man. Hey man, we just kind of bumped into each other, man. Hey man, and it was organic. It happened because it needed to happen, man. You know, we ran around with some of the same people as well, man. My brother V King is in the building, man, a whole lot of wood shit. What's going on, man? We got a wood shit. Say, man, so what's going on with you, man? I don't know the most, man, feeling good, feeling Hollywood right now. Say, man, I was so happy to meet you. When I met you and when we started talking, I couldn't even go get my watermelons and grapes and all my stuff in the fruit dial. Now I was actually coming out, but at any rate, man, it was a blessing to run into you like that. It was. So, man, I just want to get into everything that you deal with, man, and the whole lot of wood shit. I want to break that down. I don't know where the name came from. What a name come from. What a name came from. How did you come up with this? Oh, so the name is an area by Dunkville. My work out of Dunkville in the outskirts called the woods. Okay. So I just called it the whole lot of wood shit. The wood doing boxing events. You know, so I brought the whole woods together, you know, like one side of the woods, but another side of the woods. So, you know, I ain't saying it's like some blood and creep stuff or nothing, but, you know, they still over there. The other side really still over there. You know, people are really like making them walks or had them differences. But when I started doing this, I'm just like, you know, a whole lot of wood shit. Told my partners, I'm like, man, you know, don't get the trip with them. Don't get the trip with nobody. Man, we're going to come together, you know, and had meetings to it. Man, the first it been people were crying. You know, they ain't seen people in 20 years, 10 years, 15 years, everything just bought a community back together. But what inspired it? Why the idea? Oh, that's a good question. Okay. So what inspired it was? I was in school. And how old were you at the time? 29. I'm 34 now. Okay. So I was trying to find myself, you know, yeah, pretty much trying to find myself. So I was like, man, what I'm going to do. Like, dang, what I'm going to do. You know, like, man, I want to be that kind of entrepreneur. Do I want to do finance? Do I want to do marketing? You know, just like what I want to do. So I saw it like, thinking of strategies to get a lot of black people together. So make a long story short. I thought about just doing some nigga shit. Okay. Okay. You know, you really use two parts philosophy. How you say how you got thug life. Yeah. You know, he was going to pretty much do a bunch of nigga stuff. They didn't redirect him, you know, to something positive. Yeah. So pretty much I did that, you know, seemed like a lot of my homeboys and, and man, life was just going downhill for a lot of people. And, you know, one thing about me, I'm always, I was growing up. I was always fighting. My name is always associated with fighting and art. So I'm like, man, I'm doing all these workout videos. I'm working out 24 seven. I'm like, man, don't think people really want to do see me fight. So one day my partner got some boxing gloves and I didn't call that key. Shout out to call that key. So you must have been a good fighter or something. If everybody want to see you fight. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You got the man. Oh, okay. Yeah. Who taught you to fight? Was it the streets? Yeah. Growing up. Everybody always tried you. No, they didn't. Then why would, why were you fighting? That's what we did. Okay. So growing up, all right. Growing up, I gripped him. I gripped him. Baba Jordan. Word? Baba Jordan. So my partner's name is Baba Jordan. I know exactly. Yeah. So pretty much growing up from Baba Jordan, all you had to do was fight. Literally. I moved from there when I was 10, but I still got the same mentality. I mean, that was my fantasy land. They say homes were the heart of it. When I think about my happy place. And he's real fighting? Like, he was real fighting? It's better. It'd be less sparse. No, no, no. You know, these kids. They in the hood, man. Yeah, hood. Like in Jamaica when niggas be out there into it. You see somebody fighting. Right when you're into it, yeah, you fight. Yeah, that's what that thing is. Fight. Okay, because I see kids, I see on Instagram and stuff. Boxing. Yeah, niggas get out there. They be together and, you know, they start playing around, but end up being a real fight anyway. Nah, we wasn't playing around. No, no, no. Yeah, the kids, they made us fight for fun. Like my brother and his friends and other dudes, man, they see us playing. We playing with toys, playing with marbles. Hey, y'all get together and y'all fight. We don't want to fight each other. We don't want to fight each other. We don't want to fight each other. Y'all better fight before we whip y'all. Yeah, so you gotta fight. Yeah, so now we, you know, it's the soda thing. And nigga, you better not push. Nigga, you push that nigga again. Nigga, I'm gonna hit you, nigga. Yeah. That's who I am. That's who I am. Get that pushing. Get that taking off. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Every time I came outside, it seemed like, it seemed like every time I had a fight. And you won every time? Majority of times. Majority of times? Like nine times a team. To be honest, I'm just saying majority of times, but I don't think I did at that time lose a fight. I could be wrong, but I don't think I did. Mm-hmm. But there's no way you come from. Oh, this is the one fly. Yeah. But just grew up with that mentality though. Just grew up with that mentality, moved. Then I moved to the woods. And then I moved to the woods. It was just, I had that same mentality. Just fighting. You know, that's how I was so loved. I was so loved by just hitting somebody in the chest, you know? But I think it's, I think it's so inspirational. I think it's so inspirational to see what you guys are doing. I think that's the inspiration. I think to see you guys coming together, because it could be a lot of shooting. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's stopping a lot of violence. And that's why I think that's what, I'm pretty sure that's what Fat Pimp was talking about when he was on that. Right. Because he made mention of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Said that it was helping the community, man. Yeah, yeah. Stop, you know, stop a lot of the, you know, when people get their frustration out, getting it out there like that, I think that's the way, cause that's the way we just do it when we were young. You know, you get out there and fight then, you ain't killing nobody. The next day you just get it off your chest and then you go and then you get to live to see another day. So you came up with this idea. And then you brought a couple of people together and say, okay, how do we get this going? Is that what you did? Tell me the process. Tell me the process from the moment that you thought about it till... The process. I'm trying to think of the process with it. That'll be like a long process. No, that's fine, go ahead. You can summarize it. Yeah. Tell me, okay, you thought about it. Cause it wasn't somebody else... Oh yeah, okay, okay, so... Okay. Cause if somebody else listening in another area would like to start something like this, they want to know how to go back. So pretty much I made, yeah. So my partner, you know, he sold me the glues and then I made a Facebook post. So when I made the Facebook post, I would like, who won a box? You know, who taught my boxing? I got on Facebook was just, oh, I want a box. I want a box. I want to do this. I want to do that. So then I was like, okay, bet. So I saw a screenshot and everybody who said they want a box, I saw a screenshot and, you know, copy, paste. I mean, I trimmed. They picture up. I write, you know, a throw caption and then I, you know, put them against each other. You know, just get them promoting and I'll just make jokes, make memes. And then I just, the whole Facebook, everybody was in school with communities, things like that. They just got, oh, I'll fight. I'll fight. I'll fight him. I'll fight him. So I'm going to instigate them. I'm, you know, on the screenshot. So they try to back out of it. Nah, bro, you just said it. You said it. Bro, you scared? Nah, that ain't what you said. Yeah, you exposed it. Yeah. Drop that screenshot. That's what you said. Now, two days later, literally two days, then I'm going on Facebook live. Everybody live talking trash. What they going to do next? You know, 100 people at the park. Wow. You know, so then we live. We're going to barbecue. You know, we're going to do this. We're going to do that. So this is done at the park? Yeah, at the park. Okay. The park in the woods. Okay. Yeah, so nobody fought. Nobody fought. And I'm thinking like, I ain't, but I already had a feeling. So I said, okay, if nobody going to fight, then I'm going to fight. You know, but I'm going to use myself. So you were the first boxer? Yeah. Okay. So I was like, I'm going to use myself as a trump card. But it took a person like me to do this because my name is associated with fighting. You know, some people are known for being clean and playing or dressing or getting money. You know, for fighting, fighting in art. So, so who did you fight? And that first fight? Yeah. And how did you get to, you just walked into somebody and be like, Hey, come on, we're going to fight. Pretty much. Yeah. So on Facebook, I seen, you know, people talking about him like, you know, man, you don't want to with him or he going to do something. He going to step, you know, I'm looking like, okay, you know, try to put him against somebody. But in my mind, in my mind, I'm always, yeah. In my mind, I'm always like, I push kind of stuff, worst case scenario, I'm going to put myself on the line because I don't got everybody out here. So it got to be a fight. You know what I'm saying? It's always been my mentality. Like, you know, I'm going to get the people some action. So I got out there with the dude. Everybody backed up. I walked up to the dude. I was like, hey, which one of y'all name is a Jew? You know what I'm saying? Because I didn't really know him, but I heard, you know, I heard he go hard. So, you know, when the draw wasn't tripping, but I know a hundred people out here, they can't see a fight. And I did all that talking and promoting on Facebook. So I'm like, God dang, man, something got to happen. So I walked up to him. I said, hey, man, I'm not walking up to another dude. I thought he was Jew because he's like the better dude in the crowd. So I'm like, hey, you know, which one of y'all name is Jew? You're like, no, it's Jew right there or whatever Jew Jew. So then I was like, hey, you know, man, I'm telling you this is going to be big. I'm telling you, bro, trust me, it's going to be big. It's going to be like a million views. It's going to blow up. I just felt it. I just, I just knew it because just how like everybody just came to the park like this and just the energy. I don't know, man. Just like, I was, I was reading out on books and that's when I, I started learning about manifestation. I read the alchemist. I was reading a lot of Dale Carnegie and I'm just believing it. You know, I'm really just sort of walking into my purpose. Exactly. So everything starts in the mind first before you manifest it. Yeah. So, yeah. So that's pretty much how it happened. So we got out there, you know, some people told me don't do it, tell me don't get slaughtered. You know, then my partners like, man, you know, man, they got us messed up, man. Put them gloves on. They don't know the vegan. The vegan, you know, the vegan heart. Get out there and you know, the rest is history. You know what I'm saying? How many views did you get on the first video? I don't know. I'm going to say some thousands. I don't know. Everybody, you know, got their lives. Mm-hmm. But people knew about it though. Yeah. You just, you know, people knew about it. I'm going to have somebody there for you who was videoing it for you. No. It was just so unorganized. It was just... That's how you start anything. Yeah. It was just pull up at the court. It was just pull up at the court. You know? So the only organized thing I had going was barbecue. I had no barbecue. We go barbecue. We go eat. Before we fight or after we fight. People started bringing cameras and stuff and you know, oh, that ain't look good on camera. No. It grew because, I mean, I know I heard about a couple of people showing up, big name people showing up to the fights, you know? Yeah. From Earl Spence to... Yeah. And I don't know how long ago it was. Earl Spence, he sold up right before he had that car accident, probably about three days before he had the car accident. Yeah. He had just beat some Porter. Wow. I mean, there was like a dream coming true. I ain't going to lie to you. How did you feel about it? You didn't expect him to... Man, what? I was like, man, it's big, man. Man, I'm telling you, man, look, everything that's going on right now, man, ask my daughter. She sees everything. I plant these up. I wrote it down on paper. Everything. Literally everything. Maybe like nine times ten, I wrote it down two years ago on paper. I got a whole spiral that said a whole lot of woods. In my line, Caleb, literally wrote it down. Like, you know, even Earl Spence, you know? He going to come to the show. You wrote that down. Yeah. Like, literally. But you know, the Bible said you need to write it out and make it plain. You know what I'm saying? So that's the manifestation. Yeah. It's really... It's written. Most of the things we do, you know, we either say I'm going to write them or something to manifest them. Mm-hmm. So I definitely think that's dope. So did you get to talk to him when he came out there? Man, he... I was a groupie that. Well, yeah. What did you say? What did you say? Man, I don't know. I was just teasing. It's a picture on Facebook I got. Man, you see me teasing whole it. Man. I'm teasing whole it. Man, he like a legend in the city. Yeah, he a legend. He a legend in the city. He a legend, period. But in the city, we love Earl Spence. He's an inspiration. Yeah. Everybody feel like they can make it out. Yeah. Did he give you any advice? No. No. He was so excited. He was. Because at the end of the day, this is his dream. This is what he wrote out. And God is blessing him and giving it to him the way he wrote it. Yeah. Because I came up with a belt. I came up with a belt. Like a championship belt. Yeah. Championship belt. People be fighting over that belt. Everybody want that belt. And Earl Spence on there. Wow. Yeah. His picture on it. Yeah. It's dope, man. Yeah, man. So me and my brother. I wish you'd bought the belt. Somebody got it though. Yeah. Somebody got the belt right now. Marsalis Walker, the new champion. Shout out to Marsalis Walker, man. Man, yeah. He the new champion, man. How long has he been a champion? Since Saturday. Wow. I've seen it with some big events going on. I follow you now. I'll be like, y'all, you better get out there. The fights are every weekend? No, no, no. How often are these fights? Maybe like twice a year, three times a year, just depends. And they got the boxing ring and everything, right? So they hold the belt for a while? Yeah. So where is the boxing ring now? It's not in the park anymore. No, I got a band from the park. Yeah. Yeah, man. Because if I can imagine because of fighting over the years and everything. Because at the end of the day, anytime there's a blessing, there's going to be triumph as well. Yeah. There's going to be trials, I'm sorry. So you got to be expecting that. Anything you go there's going to be bumps and bruises. When we first bought all this equipment for Boss Talk 101, I had bought everything. I was ready to go and COVID hit. Boom. I had to keep this stuff a whole year. It was just at the house, not even being used. We started using it for Bible study. I would teach the word with this equipment. And then in January, it was like it's time to go. We can't wait no more. And then when we did this, now you got Boss Talk 101. Boss Talk 101. Shout out to Boss Talk 101, man. Thank you so much, man. Yeah, man. So the vibes is right, man. Yeah. We love hard over here. Yeah. You know. And I'm definitely, I was glad, like I said, when I met you, I was like, man, you know, this is dope, man. So how did the whole outfit, how did you come up with that whole concept? Hey, my bad, man. I just want to say, man, I can feel your spirit, man. Man, thank God, man. You said something about the whole, you know, just, I don't care. You said something about church or Bible study or whatever you say. Oh yeah, teaching. Yeah, just teaching. Yeah, I teach. I feel like you are the church. Yeah, but I ain't surprised, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, just your whole vibe, man. I just want to say that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I started off different. Yeah. But then as you go and you evolve and you get to be an older guy and you have kids and you have a wife and you've been married for all right at 20 years and all this stuff started happening. Life happens, man. So you have to, you have to put the shoebox up, man. And you have to retire and go into a phase where you can leave some of my legacy to your children. I can feel the radiation. That's dope, man. It radiates. Yeah. I grew up in church my whole life. Yeah, that's dope, man. I grew up in church my whole life. That's dope, man. Yeah. You got to feel your spiritual void. Yeah. If you don't, then you'll feel empty even though you you full on everything else. But that one thing will still have you feeling like, you know, like everything's not there. Man, I just, I just got back right with guys. That's what's up, man. But I love the fact of how you, like I said, you're saving lives. And that's when I, when I talk here, then when I start researching, that's what I've seen because a lot of dudes, you know what I'm saying? They choose to do it another way and you don't come back from that. You don't come back from that. So for what you're doing, say, man, hey, man, we need that. We need, young boy, need that, man. But they point that to Instagram with a little gun. Can't even shoot straight. Can't shoot. I'm from the country. I know how to shoot. You know what I'm saying? But these boys ain't practicing in no range like that, man. That's why you have a lot of accidents. Yeah. I'm being real. That's how that kid killed his friend like that. You're right. Because you don't know how to handle the gun. My little partner. That was your little partner? Yeah. See? Matter of fact, wow. Yeah. Because that was your little partner. Yeah, man. The closer we got, man, we jamming him, man. She got to just, she crying, man. I'm trying to stay strong. I couldn't, like, I ain't just excited. That was the one so y'all knew his music. Y'all knew him personally and everything. That's the one that committed. He's from the woods. I was with him a week before he did it. But it was like before that, he had accidentally had an issue with his friend. And you see what I'm saying? We got to get these trained. But was there any signs, you know, if there was any signs of something like that happening? Because you... He was going through a lot. You know, he just lost a girlfriend allegedly, but I know that friend thing, that message, that's his best friend. But the reason why I say that, because you have other people who probably have done it, because I've heard of cases like that, like the other lady that we were trying to get on here, she's about to come on here. Her son got killed by his best friend. But just like how those cases are so similar, I know that there's tons of cases out there that is happening. So as parents, what can we do to see certain signs in our kids so that, you know, they don't commit that suicide? That they don't... It's hard to... Did you see those signs? Did you know about those signs? When you look back, I've seen the sign. You did? Yeah. You could tell he wasn't doing good with that. I've been... I got mental health problems. I'll take medication. I made... So I took my medication this week. Yeah. I'll take medication for mood, anxiety, depression, sleep, you know, whatever. Yeah. Just... I was up 24 hours, more than 24 hours. Probably took maybe an hour, two hour nap. I don't know how long it was. I asked my daughter early how long it was I'll sleep. She didn't know. Yeah. So... It seems like you and your daughter got a good sleep? No. I got another... I got another child soon. Yeah. But this one right here ain't even dead inside, man. Oh, yeah. She ain't trying to hear that, man. Oh, no. And that's the dopest thing. I love it, man. That's the bone you need right there, man. They have to go home. Yeah. The same thing. That's the reason why. That's the reason why. Before, man, I'm telling you, before I had her, man, I was wide. I was wide. About two months. I was already slowing down, but I was wide. Wow. Were you on medication before when you were wild? No, the military. The military. The military. Yeah. When I came back home from Iraq, man, I don't know what happened. How long was you in there? Six years. Six years. Six years. 6th Army National go at one year of Army Reserve. So pretty much I was home majority of the time. Wow. I just did deployments and then like, you know, training like once a month then, I came home from Iraq. Man, I'm telling you, I'm still trying. Well, I don't figure it out right now. Yeah. Yeah. What is it? I'm trying to say I want to get there personally. Yeah. If you don't want to, you don't have to. I mean, think about it as the hood, man. I mean, matter of fact, I done been to a PTSD inpatient program for two months. I done been in green notes for two days. Being in the VA for two days. You know, I hear about the VA. I hear the VA don't really be helping. Oh, it depends who you ask. Okay. You know, it depends on the person. For real, you know, you ask one person, he might say, don't help. You ask another person, like man, the VA has been good to me. It just depends. It's the way you got to play the game. It's a game. I ain't lying to you. But at the end of the day, God has a well-stepping end and everything will be all right. Yeah. A whole lot of worship been brought out of this whole situation, man. And it's therapeutic and it help a lot of people. See that. I know that. You know what I'm saying? People want to get it off their chest. This guy here is the guy that they can call. They can get it off their chest. Yeah. And everybody got to die at night. Yeah. But, you know, I know we say guns down glues up, but to me, That's what y'all say? Yeah. We say guns down glues up. Hey. Saying guns down glues up, like saying black lives matter. Yeah. Yeah. No, I like it. I'm saying that everybody, you know, is saying whatever. It ain't nothing I made up. You know, but I'm still on some like, you know, network and come together. Yeah. You know, stop the violence, man. You know, I just look at the hood, for instance, I look at it like, we got PTSD. You know, I know what PTSD is. You know, I'm in the military. I've been educated on it. So, I've been taking therapy classes since 2010. Wow. It's 2021. That's 11 years. Yeah. So. And has it helped? Sometimes. It depends. It depends. If you work the system, you got to apply it. Let me ask you this. Um, let me just a question. Did you think about PTSD or anything when Earl Spence walked out there that day? Uh, when he came out there and you was, it was straight joy and just thinking, just happier for that moment. Right. Oh, for that moment. Oh, yeah. See what I'm saying? It's stuff like that. God replaces pain with peace. He replaces sad with joy. You see what I'm saying? So, so that's where it's at, man. Being able to create those instances with your daughter and stuff like that, way bigger than anything that, anything that you could go through, man. Those are things that you can put in those places that can lift you up anytime. Man, I'm telling you like this, when Earl Spence came in, I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah. Man, I'm telling you, dude like a hero, man. Yeah. I'm just kind of what it is. Some people like me or Dick Rodden, but man, dude like a hero. He definitely is. I'm talking about a big inspiration. Yeah. I watch him every time he fight. I hadn't been to see him, you know, I had never been to a fight. I have never. Yeah. That's something we got to do. That's the bucket list, right? Yeah. We got to go. Everybody rock with each other. I watch him every time, but I watch all his fights, but I just never have been there live. Yeah. And I'm, I think I'm may check in August. I don't know that I can't afford to go. I just had never went. I need to go. Yeah. We need to check that out. Turn back around and go right back. Go right back. We're going to be out there. We're going to be out there. Like a week or two before. A week or two before. A week or so before. So we're going to go back. Yeah. The whole Dallas going west. Yeah. Yeah. They coming out for her. Yeah. The whole Dallas. Are you going to try to go? Man, I already got my. Oh, my boy. So he got his tickets. I don't have a ticket to the fight. They ain't dropped it. Yeah. Like to the hotel and the flight. You ready? Oh, yeah. That's dope, man. Yeah. That's really, really dope. Like I like that because at the end of the day, Earl, step up, man. Hey, boss talk one on one. We got you live over here on our mind, baby. Yeah, man. I'm going to try to get him in that seat. Yeah, man. Hey, man, you got to get behind your own, man. Yeah. You know, just how the Mexicans get behind theirs, man. We got to get behind ours. And I agree with that. A hundred percent. My brother, he preaches that all the time. You know, he going to love this segment. You know what I mean? He going to love it because he says that every time. Yeah. So how did you come up with the, with the whole get up with the, with the costume, with the wig? Man. I also, I've been an instigator my whole life. You've been an instigator. So you good at this promoting. Man, I'm telling you. You can promote that thing. Even in school, people will be fighting or I'll get into somebody. I can draw. I can draw like a mother. Yeah. So I draw a person. I draw myself while I draw whoever beats him. And then I get him printed out and pass him out to the school. In school. And like this about to go down. Like, you know, my friends who grew up with me, like really, really know me. Yeah. They get to laugh and like, bro, man, when your documentary come out, bro, we going to tell everybody, like, this is always been you. You. And they just laugh. They laugh. Like it's funny that I'm blowing up or something I've always loved, something I've always did, just on a bigger platform for the world to see. And I got a wig on now. Hey, I like it. Do you wear that wig every time? Every time. Every time. Every time the fight going down. Yeah. When the fight stuff going down. When I'm promoting. Yeah. Yeah. That's dope, man. Where did you find it? Costumes too. I got on Google store. As a matter of fact, everybody kept calling me Dun King. Yeah. Yeah. It was like, bro, you're an instigator. Dun King. Dun King. It was organic. It was pretty much something that they kept saying to where you like, let me go and put it down. Yeah. So when somebody says something, I jump on it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. If I hear it more than one time, boom. Keep calling it Dun King. I don't care. I don't care. Mess them up. Boom. Got me a Dun King. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Boom. Got the crown. Whatever. Man, to be you the general. You the general, bro. Got me a general jacket. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Watch what you say to me. I love it, man, because you ain't playing no game. Kind of festations. Let me ask you. So let's get back to Charleston White. When you... Okay. How did you meet Charleston? Duke Farrow, man. Duke Farrow. Duke, Duke, Duke Farrow. Okay. I seen you had... Was it Bosco 100? Yeah, the Bosco 100. Yeah. You had them on your... Charleston White and... Charleston White and Bosco 100. Yeah. How did you set that up? Man, I pay Bosco for an interview. Okay. Not even an interview. I just... Man, I just know. I don't know. I've been like a Bosco. I've been watching him for years. Just the people I watch, man. The people I watch, I like having fun when I reach out to them. Now I don't think it ain't nothing I can do. You know? So I can do anything now. So boom. Reach out to Bosco. Thought that'd be dope for promotion. Just for me talking to him. You know? Charleston White. That was like an accident. Really? No. That was like when me and you met? Yeah. Charleston White. That was an accident. Like when he jumped on that live... Hold on. Are you asking how that live happened? How the live happened? Okay. First, I was like... I was gonna ask you how you met Charleston. But go ahead and let's talk about how that live happened. Okay. How that live happened, man. That wasn't supposed to happen like this. You know what I'm saying? That got over like 100,000 views, man. Yeah. Yeah. Charleston, you know... He was like, you know... The platform like, you ain't fit to do that. You ain't fit to do that. But it happened, man. I don't know. It just happened. Did he just hit you up when you were talking to him? Oh. So when we... You let him in live? Did you request him? So when me and Bosco were live... When me and Bosco were live, people were like Charleston in the comments. Charleston in the comments. And then you know, Bosco was like, man, Charleston on the comments. And they were all like, yeah, that's Charleston. That's him. That's him, bro. You know what I'm saying? But I'm thinking like Charleston ain't gonna go up. You know, Charleston already done told me. Like, you know... He ain't gonna do it. Yeah. You know, whatever. You know, so... He blessed my game, man. I ain't gonna lie to you, man. Yeah. Charleston, we got something deeper than... Yeah. It's something about him, man. You know, me and him, we tied, too. You know, when it comes down to just a good dude, I know him, you know, we've done things together. We have the community and stuff like that. Yeah. And I definitely, I respect him. A lot of people say what they want to say about him, but he feels about what he says he's about. Yeah. And so that's something that's... I think that he's done... He's helped his platform a lot. Yeah. You know, when you pull up my thing, because he got... When you pull up our YouTube, he was pop up to the top every time. He was first. Every time. Because he got the most views, man. Yeah. Like he's internet sensation, you know? Yeah, man. Dude... Dude been good to me. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. I'm like, man, he's so good to me, but he been good to me. That's the way he is. People don't be realizing it. That's the way he is. And if you don't know him, you ain't gonna know that. Yeah. But we really got... We're blessed to have a relationship with him. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, for real. That's something. And a lot of people be... Like I said, you could talk down and say what you want to say about him, but help a lot of people and brought a lot of things to this platform. And it's always love here for him. That's the way I feel about it. You know, yes, he might be controversial, but who not? We all got our flaws. Ain't nobody in this store right now that don't have flaws. So, you know, at the end of the day, you know, and then I go even deeper, you know, I always say this, you know, I got to say it. Like God teaches us to meet people where they're at. How you gonna help somebody if you just talking about them? You can't help nobody just talking about them. So at the end of the day, you got to talk to them. And this platform is one that we do that. So you'll see people on here that you wouldn't expect anyway because I feel like you got to meet people where they're at. That's the way it is. No, for real. That's it. Yeah. So get back to the whole lot of wood shit. You got something now. What do you plan to take it in the next two years? Not two years a year. What do you plan to see? Since you had all the stuff written down, you should have that plan already. Man, when I see this stuff, man, I'm telling you, I ain't manifested Charles in a way. I ain't never talked to anybody with my post problem. Oh, this exclusive? No, I'm, yeah. Yeah, this exclusive. I ain't never talked to Charles in a way. What happened? I used to watch Charles on TV and I ain't never seen nobody like Charles. On YouTube? Yeah. I ain't never seen anybody like Charles and I'm like, what the heck? I'm like, my life isn't this crazy. You know that? I'm like, this is real. He's speaking real. So Uncle Ruck is, I don't even need to say some real shit. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? What do you like? Then my partner with my best friend is like, bro, I can see you and Charles and talking, bro. I can see you meeting him. Bro, I can see Charles and I can hear the fuck with you, bro. I can see that. I swear to God, like, damn, wonder what about thinking that same shit. Wow. Then boom. You know what I'm saying? The Duke Ferro situation happened, which was meant for bad. You know, he's trying to sue me. Yeah. You know, but Charles and got the talking shit about me. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. And then I'm looking like, okay. You know what I'm saying? That's what's up, you know? Damn. I'm looking like that. Talking about me. I like you, nigga. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I'm happy too. I say, nigga, hell yeah. Because you know that's gonna make you look, make people put the light on you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ooh. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. For real. So, man, I reached out to him. You know, instead of just me saying, nigga, fuck you all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I should reach out to him in the inbox. Because he had already messaged me anyway and said something. Yeah. But then, you know, I don't, I can't even find it. If I let him respond to him, whatever it was, but I should reach out to him, whatever. Then I say, hey, what's up with your triggers from Forward? There's something you said you got. And then he said, send me your number. Send him my number. We chopped it up. And the rest is history, man. Yeah. It's like that with him, man. The first time I talked to him, it was like that, too. We started going in the background and stuff that we both didn't kind of dealt with. Yeah. Just relating to conversation. But it was wild. I was like, man, you know, when I talked to him, you know, I was like, dang, man, do I need to deal with Charleston White? You remember that? I asked my wife, I said, do I need to deal with Charleston White? My uncle, he kept hitting me up about it. He kept hitting me up about it. And I was like, you know what? And my brother was like, you need to deal with him. So I called him and I didn't let go until I got him on the show and I gave him an award for helping those children and stuff like he did. I'm the only one to give him an award on a platform. So I wanted to be the first. I mean, that's the way I do it. So I just wanted to award him for the work that he did with the kids and the city and just the stuff that he'd do in the community. I wanted to show that side of him because nobody shows that side of him. They look at the controversy, but they don't look at, they look at the character, but they don't look at the man. That's what I was telling them. So I wanted to look at the man and I seen the man and I'm very, very pleased with who I seen and how I deal with that guy. You know, so shout out to Chaucer, man. You know how we do. You got your guys in there talking that talk about you. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I like him, man. He good to my daughter and everything, man. Yeah, I'm telling you, don't do it, man. You love kids. Yeah, that's the way he is, man. He sent us a kid over here that could draw and paint and all kind of stuff. And he brought a kid on this show that had just got out of juvenile and lost his mother and his father. So this guy, everything that he does on this platform that I've seen, so stand up. Hey, man, I see why Sean Cotton Rock with him, too, because he know how to deal with the internet, man. So, you know, this Texas, man, y'all ain't gonna get it no way. East coast and the west coast ain't gonna get what we do. This Texas, baby. You know what I'm saying? We different down here. Yeah. We always have been and always will be. All right. Am I right? No comment. No comment. I don't want no smoke. No smoke. They gonna come at you. Hey, y'all different. Okay, nigga, whatever. Hey, don't get me over that with a whole lot of wood shit, nigga. Hey, we got to be the same way. Hey, no idea what it is, man. They want me to come put them gloves on. That's it, man. So you did the outside question about where you want to be in the next two years? Yes. Okay. No, I don't think you did. I changed it a little bit. So I want to be a boxing promoter. Okay. So you really want to take it there? Yeah, I really want to be a real boxing promoter. That's dope, man. You're going to do it. Yeah, but right now I just want to take over the streets. My brother always like, hey, bro, you're in the streets, but I want to take over the streets. You know? If you want to take over the streets, you're going to take over the streets. Yeah. Because it's all about what you say, what you write down. Yeah. You can do it. Yeah, but, yeah, like I just want to start with it. You know, just like a tumbleweed, you know? Okay. So then when I do get there to the professional boxing world, because I know when I do get there, they're going to have some kind of regulations I'm not going to like. Mm-hmm. You know? Then they're going to tell me how I got to move. Yeah. So right now I like the way I got to move and I'm getting people along the way and I'm finding myself and I'm finding the game and I'm doing it like ain't nobody never did before and I'm having fun doing it. So by the time I do come to the boxing world, you know, then I'm already known. I already got my fan base and I already did my thing. Mm-hmm. So I'm doing like this. Then at the same time, the world changes. The world is changing. They get triggered. They get snooped out of them. They get zapped due to them. So they focus them on my way anyway. Yeah. Yeah. So do you ever want to interact? I'm mad tapped, dude. I don't know if it's a picture on the wall, but do you ever want to interact with them to where you bring them to some of your events? I grew up out of these dudes. So you like to have them to come to your event? You got to be at that fight. You got to go promote. You got to promote for a whole lot of woodshed. You got the shirts. What's up? What you doing out there? But you go to the fight. I mean, are you going to try to promote a little bit? What? Man, I can't miss it for the world, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't miss it for the world, man. Look, we got a man. Look, we got a dude. As a matter of fact, I always say that I'm trying to bring that. I always say I'm trying to bring Vegas to Dallas. I've been to Vegas one time. I've seen it. I'm thinking, man, how can I bring that element down here? Mm-hmm. So when I seen that building, I got the feel. I'm like, man, we could bring Vegas to Dallas. Oh, really? I even got like, I got big old Vegas posters, which I've never hung up because I'm always, something's always going wrong doing them events. But I even got like, like how you say, welcome to the Fabulous of Las Vegas. Yeah. I got the Las Vegas part, Airbus over, and then got welcome to the Fabulous whole lot of woods. Hey. But the dude did a horrible job, so I didn't put it in. That's okay, but you got, you got a structure. You got to start. Yeah. The next thing I know, Earl Spence packing out Vegas. I'm like, man, I don't know, man. This ain't no coincidence. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got to get out there that day. We got to get out there. And I know, man, people love this image, man. Oh, man. They're going to kid. You're the one, man. Yeah. I already know. You bought your tickets for the show? No, not for the show. Just for the hotel. Hotel. Hotel. But the tickets ain't gonna be, they ain't gonna be cheap. Are they on sale yet? No. They ain't drop yet. I'm going to. I might. Yes, we should. Check it out. We should. How can I be from Dallas when we got Dallas biggest boxer ever, you know, going to fight Pacquiao, one of his biggest fight ever. And you and you. Yeah. And you basically, this is your, this is your thing. You got to be there. Yeah, man. That's dope, man. That's not working too. Very much so. And telling what God got in store. For real. I like it, man. I like it a lot, man. So like, so YouTube, do you have a YouTube channel and everything set? I just started doing it. Okay. You got to do it. Yeah. Today, man, like all look at these mics. I was like, all right. So, um, it's like the arms or whatever you call it. Yeah. About that. I bought a mic, a little something similar. Okay. Um, I bought a green backdrop. Um, that's dope. Yeah. I got a Canon M50 camera. Yeah. So I ordered me, uh, the charger that go into the wall from the camera or there for Amazon to come in tomorrow. Dude for the big guy. It's up. If you need me, you need my help in anything. You ask me, I'm going to be there for you. Yeah. Even if you, if you want to stream in on, if you want to stream it on Google podcast, and if you want to do it to where you, when you push it up, everything go to every platform. I'll help you with that. Yeah. It's crazy. Whatever you need. Yeah. Thank you. No, for real. No, that's real. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. If you call me, I'm going to be in there. And then if you don't, my guests, you ain't got any guests over whatever, paperwork, whatever will help you, man. Okay. That's what we're here for. And the guy is about to blow bro and I say when it blows, I'm trying to blow it with it. With it. I'm saying, just like this man when doubt is blown, everybody going to be like five times bigger. Yeah. So it's like, everybody get in position. Yeah. Get in position, do your thing for when it blows. Yeah. See the highways. See the traffic. Everybody moving down here. Moving to the years. Yeah. Texas about to blow. Texas about to blow. Y'all heard that. Texas about to blow. Don't, Don't slip and fall. Nigga, need blow, you better have your money and everything stacked up right, we better get it in, we investin'. Yeah, you got the richest black man in America in Austin, Texas, his name is Robert Smith. He's the richest American black man here. So he lives right in Austin and when Morehouse, he paid all their tuition, like $40 million in tuition and that was 2019 when he did that. That sounds familiar. Yeah, he did that. That sounds really familiar. Yeah, he's worth $8 billion right now. So yeah, he never played basketball and he never played in sports. He did it off of bank investment and I believe computer software, yeah. Yeah, he redesigning computer software, I believe, but a lot of people don't be knowing about him because he's walking in there and nobody would know him. I think that's a dope too. Yeah, that's for real. He's just a chill dude from what I can see and what I can tell looking from the outside in. Yeah, I am innocent. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he dope, man. I love it and I know people, and he for us, he for us, he always try to do things. He's just did some for black reparations. When T.I. kept hollering at, he really was, Robert was the one leading that on. So it's stuff like that, that really I love to see and I know he's sincere, you know? He always talk about how he was treated and I think that's something, our people come from a lot of dysfunctionalities, a lot of things before the military, there was already issues. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, slavery, man. Yeah, slavery is a big issue. It's lingering, you know? You got to think about the slavery area, the, I mean, era, the Jim Crow era, you know, the crack era, like everything is still lingering. Like, you know, this is how I see it. But, you know, when you see out on bombs and crackheads and just all this dysfunction in the lower class black communities, that's a direct fact. I mean, a direct effect from slavery and stuff and all that stuff. Most definitely, most definitely. And I know it is. And he always says that. I'm always hard on people about how they treat our people and where we coming from and understanding how to meet them, where they're at. That's why I say that. I'm never going to turn my back on nobody. I don't care how bad or how you say they are and you can say what you want to say about them, but they are our people and we love them. You know what I'm saying? Period. Don't matter. Cause at the end of the day, no matter what they done, it is nowhere in comparison to what they had to go through. Our people, our ancestors. So I'll never do that. You know what I'm saying? No, for real. You can read books at my house on history where a woman was eight months pregnant and when she went with a woman with eight months pregnant, they hung her and cut her stomach open and an eight month baby fell out of her stomach and hit the ground and cried one time and then the master stumped the baby's head. And so you can't tell me that that didn't affect our people today. So I don't play like that. Period. You know what I'm saying? I'll never turn my back on our people. Nah, I'm just, as you talk, I'm just thinking about, nah, you're right. I'm just thinking. I'm just thinking, I don't horrific story. Oh man. We went to DC. We went to the matter of fact, Robert Smith put in a place up there paid $27 million, $25 million. But there's a historical museum in DC we went to where they showed like the slave ships and the bags that they carried. And you know, it would be people coming over on those ship and the millions of people died in transition coming to America. That's the African-American museum. That's right, the African-American museum. I went up there to see, and the bags they was picking cotton in from here to that counter over there. You know, so when I look at those type of moments, it makes me respect what they done and how we got here. And I can't turn my back on and say it didn't happen. Yeah. Turn my back on and say it didn't affect us. Yeah, we're brave like that. Our ancestors, if you look at them and if you had to face them, would you think they would say that? Having to go through what they went through? So I don't play with it at the end of the day. And at the end of the day, it's all love. It's still love, no matter what, because that love is what can help us to get through it. But at the end of the day, it was a lot of hurt that pushed us into the positions we're in today. Yeah. So I really believe that. Yeah, and it's true. I really believe it was true. I mean, it's an experience, it's real. Yeah, but we're doing great. Our people do come together a lot more than what people give them credit for. When there's a concert, when there's a Earl Spence fight, we come together and we stand up for our people. So people don't like to say that and they don't like to put it out there in that way, but we do stand up for our people. It's very obvious. There wouldn't be no Jay-Z without our people. He had to start from a foundational place with our people. There wouldn't be no baby and a bird man and cash money. Yeah, it came through drugs or whatever, but it still was our people. It's us pushing us up. Jay-Z came here for us and came through drugs, too? Correct, definitely did. That's something to think about. But that museum is dope and it's deep. If you ever get a chance to go to D.C., I think I've seen T.I. Neymar that other day. It's like, man, it's a bunch of floors on that thing. About 7, 10, I got so tired. You can't do it. You gotta have like two days, three days to go through that thing. You know what I mean? It's good for the kids. I love the kids getting to see it. You know what I mean? Because they need to go. If you don't want a trip, I'd go out to D.C. and hang out for a few days. I'm big on black history. Yeah, it's got, and it's free. It doesn't cost anything. So if you ever go to the museums in D.C., I don't think we pay to get in not one, do we? No, it's not free. We just ended up getting tickets. We got tickets, okay. It was free for us. God blessed us. I guarantee you, if you call us a researcher, somebody will bless you, too. You gotta want it. You know, if you take one step toward God, it'll take two steps towards you. Look at the whole lot of wood shit. He writing, things happening. Yeah. Yeah, man, a lot of people, yeah, a lot of people just probably think, man, I'm just, this crazy dude, I'm just put on a wig and start screaming, hold on, I don't want this shit. No, no, no. I don't want this shit happening. Heck no. No. And it's gonna work. Sacrifice, too. I'm talking about, man, when I say I put everything all up with my allergies, I'm talking about right around no AC, no car for a year, no wreck, no car leaving it. Come on now. I'm talking about on the bus, like when I made it at home. When they do it. When I made it at the bus, I was on the bus on the phone, come to play and have a debate with my brother about who should go on the bus, how I'm gonna do the bus. You know what I'm saying? Things like that. I was on the bus thinking all these, man. I'm like having meetings, catching the bus from North Dallas all the way to the woods and the cliff and other places where people try to screw me over or like pretty much whenever I see somebody that's just about the dollar, I move around. You know what I'm saying? Cause I'm like, man, I'm about to pass in there. I pay what I weigh and I pay good. If somebody asks me, if somebody, your price is your price. I ain't gonna disrespect your price. Either I can say no, yeah, but I am like, I mean, you can't come down. Okay, what's your price is? Okay, boom. But if I feel like, oh, you know, a lot of people try to play me like I'm green or we're trying to play me like I'm green along the way. Oh, we can do it like this. We can do it like that. Oh, how much money? Man, I'm high, bro. You know what I'm saying? I'm high. I figure out on my own. And which I do figure it out on my own. And I'm doing good. So while you're doing this, do you have a full-time job? No, uh-uh. So this is your full-time? Yeah, pretty much I go to school and I get disability. Yeah. What are you going to school for? Finance. Finance. Yeah. Learn how to handle that money when it comes in. It's coming, too. I want to be honest with you. I see it coming. I think the YouTube thing is going to blow. Yeah, I do too. I think that's where I think it's going to happen for you because I know if you sitting there talking about the events, that's going to give it more momentum. Man, I'm telling you. Does anybody else do what he does? No. Not that I know of. Yes. Who does it? I ain't saying they're nice. But they do, but they do it. Okay, okay. Well, don't say that. Yeah. Look, how many other people do what you do? Is it only that one person that does what you do or you have multiple people who do what you do? It's a lot of people doing what I do. But they don't do it as good as he do it. Man, I ain't, man. So how are you different from everybody else? I'm the first. He started. Oh, so they came after you? Yeah, I'm the first in his wife and I dress up and pretty much I like the blueprint up. He go to extra mile. What's wrong with them doing what you, because what I thought about earlier when you were talking about cause what you're doing is something really good. Telling people to put their guns down and pick up the gloves and actually fight it out like old school way instead of trying to be, you know, more violent that can cause more of a death. You know what I mean? So it's more cities. And I'm not even gonna say just inner cities because anybody and everybody have issues like this. If everybody picked it up and started doing something like this, you wouldn't have a lot of these young kids picking up the guns to try to do, you know, crazy stuff. Yeah. See, that's something I'm kind of conflicted in. You know, I ain't scared to say what it is. Sometime like, you know, I asked myself, I'm always asking myself, bro, are you a hater? Are you bitter? Are you jealous? No, for real. You have to check yourself. I always have reality checks with myself. You know, did you do that person wrong? Are you a hoe ass nigga? Like that's, you know, and then if I can ask myself them questions and I feel like I'm not, then I'm good. But if I feel like I am and I did somebody dirty, man, I will call you and ask you for forgiveness. I will apologize to you. I will feel bad that whole day. That's how I do it. I am. So me, I just look at, man, I know like people get mad when I say, it's a competition. You know, a competition market. Pushing each other. You know, they get mad. But the thing about it is when I say competition, I don't mean in a bad way. No, no, no, no. You know, it's just that before I went to school, when I thought about competition, I probably would have thought maybe like, man, it's a bad thing. Like, why you ain't competition with me, bro? But you got a competition market. So it's like this, the way I look at it, if I start this fight stuff and then, so I come to the market, the market's right here. If I come to the market with this fight stuff and then somebody else comes to the market with this fight stuff, one of us got to do something different. They probably gonna do something different. They probably won't have a add on, you know, things like that to where I can lose what I got. That's how Walmart took over. You know, it's like, if you don't catch up, if you don't catch up, you'll get lost. Yeah, pretty much, if you don't catch up, you'll get lost. If you don't outdo, if you don't outdo or evolve, you're gonna get lost. So just where it is. Every time you see a McDonald's, you see a Burger King. You know? So how you, the competition makes you better. It makes it better. Like Michael Jordan, the competition that comes, makes me better. I make them better. And then the whole time, what I see in it is that people are, people are really avoiding situations that could go a whole, to a whole other level. And it's all because of what you started. That's what I look at. So you helping those people too. You know, whether it be indirectly or not, right? Yeah, that's just the way it goes. But I know a lot of people don't agree with, you know, how I say about competition, but it is what it is. You know? So let me ask you, I'm gonna go back into the mental health a little bit. So when you first got diagnosed, you realized that you had mental health issues. That's after the military or was that before that you were having after? And cause one thing I used to always say, and I've even had it written down because I've had friends who were married to military people. And they started telling me about how much, you know, nightmares and how many issues that they have and they're not able to open up to them. It's like the felt like they wouldn't understand. So my, one of my goals or my dream was to open like a halfway house for military people coming home because I always feel like they need to somewhere to come to, to readjust the society and learn how to deal with certain things before they come out into society. Because sometimes some people, whether commit suicide or harm others or just don't know. That's why I've actually met some people who say that's why I keep re-enlisting because I don't know how to function in this world. Man, that's some truth. Yeah, man, that's true. Like I can function in the military but in a civilian world, it's more complicated. Exactly. For real, it really is. It just, it is what it is. In the military, they hold your hand, they hold your hand and you know what you're gonna be. Be what you're supposed to be and be on time, things like that. I heard, man, just you to the wolves. You know, a lot of people who go to the military, you know, when they get out, they lost because they life was structured by the military. Now that's how you gonna get it. But how do you think we can correct that and help people to adjust to society number one? Number two, just to, because you don't want someone to keep re-enlisting because they don't know how to survive out here or how to, you know, kill people. So how do you think that we can help that? It's funny y'all talking on this subject because we got a letter where that's what she wanted to do. She wrote a letter. We both wrote that one. That's how you say, write down things. That's one thing I wrote down. We wrote down letters together years ago, probably in 2016. And she wanted to help people who get out to military with PTSD and that's what, that's her thing. Yeah, I remember when I got out to, when I got out to military, man, when I came home from my regular, I didn't know nothing about it, nothing. Cause I went in at 20, I was already having, you know, hard times, jobs, you know, I'm doing like warehouse, Taco Bell, I mean Taco Bueno, you know, before the military. So, you know, do the military, you know, get my training as a real mechanic. Then, I come home and like, I'm looking for jobs, can't get jobs. You know, I got a criminal record. You had a criminal record before military? Yeah, just had like a trespassing. You know, like probably fighting in public, trespassing, whatever. Okay. So, but I couldn't get a job. Just on that? Yeah, I couldn't. And that's not even that serious. I try to be a police officer. I try to be a fireman. I don't try to just- And that's so crazy. You can be in the military, but you can't even come out and be a police officer. Man, I used to always say that. Man, I'm like, man, y'all tell me, did y'all give me M16 and M4s, and I go overseas and put my life online, but I can't even come home and carry a pistol. Wow. You know, and I was just like, man, you know, it was messed up, man. Cause I was really thinking I'm gonna be one of them good cops. I'm gonna be one of them cops in the hood to work. Try to help to keep people. I understand, you know, things like that. You know, cause man, when I came home, man, like, I was- You had plans. Yeah, man. I'm thinking like, man, could think about it like, I feel accepted. Like people treated me different when I joined the military, you know, before I joined the military, I treated you like a nigga. Treated you like, you know, just, just feel it. But then when I joined the military, it's just, hey, you got that uniform on. Thank you for serving. Thank you for serving. Hey, sir, let me pay for your gas. Let me pay for this. You get pulled over. Are you the one or what? I'm not gonna take you to jail. Get your stuff together. You know better, you know, things like that. I don't know, I lost my holds trying to tell. Yeah, but the thing is, what I say is on a whole lot of wood shit is that whole situation is therapeutic for him, too. Right. Oh, it is. It is, man. That's the thing. By helping others, you help yourself. Yeah, and I think that's the thing that I'm seeing in the whole, I keep bringing it back to that because I see that, that's a whole, that's a whole another world. And I can say, what does Derek James mean to you? Man, come on, man. Everything. Yeah, do you think he's one of the best trainers out there? Yeah, man, but if you're from Dallas, man, I just look at it like this. If you look like me and you're from Dallas, man, I just feel like I know, I just know you. I know your story. I know what you went through. I know you went through something. You know what I'm saying? That's how I look at it. So I'm always rocking home, too. For him to be doing that, like that, and being successful at it is a great deal. Trap boy, mode three, I rock with both of them. I don't know them like that, but you know. It's Dallas. It's Dallas, man. There's like two brothers that get into it and you can't really pick a side. Whatever, man, I'm rocking. If you're from Dallas or you're from where I'm from, man, I gotta rock with you. Go against you for what? Yeah, I feel you. You know what I'm saying? I feel like the white people don't do it. The Aids just don't do it. Yeah, they don't go against each other. They don't put you in their business. So it's like, why should I do it? We the only ones do it. I get it. I get it. For real. Matter of fact, I want to bring back up when I was like about the other people who would do what I do in the city. It's not that I'm hating, you know what I'm saying? But I do support some of them and stuff like that. But I can't support you too much to where it knocks me out. Yeah, no, no. I get it. I get it. I get it, but. For the ones who don't understand. Couldn't it be a business where... Everybody joined together. Join together to create an organization. But it don't work like that. But couldn't it come to like, since you started it first, if they came to you respectfully and said, hey bro, I'd like to create an organization. So we have one of this in Houston, one of this in Austin, one of this in everywhere. So we could have like, say, the champion of who would face this champion of such and such and make it even a bigger thing. Because when we work together, you can create something even better. You're right. But I am allowed to, I'm new to this and I don't know nobody. You're still trying to learn. Like to be honest, like before I can do that, I gotta learn what I'm doing with this. Exactly. Because the thing about it is, McDonald's got stole. Y'all seen the movie The Fender? Yeah. McDonald's got stole. You know what I mean? It's things coming around me. I was facing what I've met in my life. People come around me just to learn the game. People come around me just to see what I'm doing and take it. Exactly. Let me tell you something, man. Cause we're about to shut it down, but man, we definitely appreciate you for coming on the platform. You know, you blessed us with you. He the first, you the first of your kind probably the only one that I'd ever bring on the show to be on. I don't know. And listen, I don't want to say that cause I don't know what God is. Never say never. But I thank God for me meeting you. Like we met. Yeah. It was weird. Not weird, but. But it was like we both deal with the same people and we just started talking. So I know it was organic. You know what I mean? So, and it's crazy how it happened. And like I said, as far as the YouTube channel, anything I can help with, you call me. I'm there, bro. I'm telling you. Am I there? I'm going to tell you what to do. I know you got to go. Look, I don't want to say this, man. With the YouTube or just like with everything that's going on. Anything you need help on. People love me. It's kind of crazy because like, they're just like, man, wolves, man. You so real. You so honest. You so genuine. Like, I'm talking about like the older women, the girls, the dudes, the men, the street niggas. They just be like, man, you so real. You so genuine. They just want to see me win. That's God's favor. You know, yeah. I'm just like, dang. I'm like, y'all really want to hear me talk or see me win. I'm like, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, I'm going to be honest with you. The way you stepping outside the box, nobody's done that. Don King, we're about $300 million, man. You know what I'm saying? Right now. So, you know, promoting and doing it the way you're doing, I think you're on the right track. And if it's anything you're going to do, an event or something you want to put an eye sight on, it's up to you, but you can always come back here and say, hey, I'm going to come on the show and I want people to know this and I'm going to push that agenda for you. I promise. All right. All right. Thank you so much for coming on the show, man. This has been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we're out.