 One of my pitches for why this is a important thing, a lot of people were moving away from Fedora mailing lists to basically using Gitforged trackers as their mailing lists for things. So we have people basically using GitHub, GitLab, Pagger, for their teams things, which is fine for a lot of things, but those aren't really very good. Like if things get big, there's no threading or anything like that, there's not moderation tools. They're not really meant for extended discussion, they're meant for tracking issues. And worse than that, let alone whether they're good or bad tools, they're scattered all over the place and there's a whole bunch of, like one of the people on the mailing list, the developer list are talking about how people moving, away from mailing lists which all come to your inbox to just score sites which are all in different places feels more scattered, but I think we were really already getting more scattered because