 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go Mind pump mind pump with your hosts salda Stefano Adam Schaefer and Justin Andrews in this episode of mind pump pump The first 55 minutes of this episode is our typical chit chat conversation We talk about close calls when we were children Yeah, Adam almost got kidnapped once blocked it out. We talk about the movie Wally and Justin's farm Jim Idea, it's brilliant. It's super think about it. All this wasted work that we're doing right now. Exactly Adam brings up his new far infrared Blanky helps him sleep sounds so snuggable We talk about the dog and pet obesity Epidemic stop feeding your dogs. I will be honest though fat dogs are cuter than clean dogs. So I'm just saying they're a wheezy They're still cuter. I also mentioned how curcumin the active ingredient in turmeric is a phyto cannabinoid and has anti-inflammatory Effects, that's right. 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Okay My kids walk to school in the morning and my son has a cell phone and I tell him text me when you get to school No text so I didn't get a text this morning. Oh, yeah, so There's like this, you know when you like for a second you feel like you start to consider like oh my god Something happened. Oh, right that feeling you get. Yes. I went from cool. I had a great morning cool to Super panic in such a short period that I call the school and they're like, oh, yeah Yeah, he made it. Yeah, no problem And then I thought about it and I'm like he just forget and just was like, ah, I don't know when he comes home today He's getting a beating. Oh, yeah much right now I'm just kidding. I'm gonna beat him to hardcore not gonna actually be right, but no, I think he probably just forgot but And I thought about man when I was a kid I used to walk to walk to school walk home Like my mom didn't know if I made it to school or not until later that day Nice to walk home and these horse trails and there was they literally was rattlesnakes and shit and like homeless people and It was crazy and like we just would walk home and take me probably grow up home 30 minutes and rattlesnakes. That's a weird Weird but it's just a vision Justin like skipping with his like transformer lunchbox Rattlesnake bomb. It's just like waking up with a 40 ounce And then some like fucking snakes almost eating my ankles. Yeah, sounds like a video game It was How old were you when you started walking home and walking to school, I think I was in Sixth sixth grade sixth grade. Yeah, believe me if I told you you were you were probably real latchkey kid You're like an atom. No, my sister and I were Walking to school in third and fifth grade and we had to cross a major highway And it was about a mile and a half two miles from our our neighborhood So it was a little bit of a hike and my parents did you guys ever have a scary close call walking to school? You know what and now that's the weird part You know, that's why I guess I didn't think it was as big of a deal So until I got way older and I started to hear other parents I get all freaked out about our driving their kid to the bus stop Which was fucking you know a hundred yards away from their house like I just would scratch my head like this It makes sense. That's so weird. My mom used to make us fucking get up and Like the school early and we didn't get she didn't follow us out or watch us from the porch It's like you packed she packed her lunch. You know I'm saying so here's your lunch panel. Yeah, I see you later But yeah, no, we didn't ever had a scary situation or a close call No, I think the the scariest would be as if we got distracted like see now when you're a kid You know and you don't you don't think about this like, you know There'd be times where my sister and I would come home from school Then we'd see other people walking from home then we'd throw rocks and we'd play around and like You know so we could be home an hour later than what we should be home from school And then we get in trouble so we get in trouble for stuff like that because you know mom was like you get schools out at You know 2 30 or whatever. Why are you not home till four like what the hell? So but I mean we had that much freedom as a kid like we could just we go It's really weird to think about you ever wonder and it was way scarier that during that time Oh, yeah, well, so here's so I thought about this the other day because statistically It's safer today than it was when we were kids I mean in terms of kid nappings and like shit that would happen to your kids or stuff that happens to kids Far lower today than when we were kids in the you know late in the 80s and 90s, right? But I wonder if the reason why it's lower is because less kids are walking You know, I mean what if what if it's just as bad as it was back then Yeah, but the reason well that's what if kidnappers are like damn like nobody walks anymore Man Parents are so paranoid now, and we have so many helicopter parents Well, maybe there's some maybe there's some truth that that's why they're why it's safer now, right? Because if it makes it more dangerous like you're the only parent that has your kid walking around the kidnappers like all like You say that like there's like a like a bar of like kidnappers all hanging out Like they all can noodle together Facebook group. Yeah, they're all playing cards and this this poor kid walks That's the world we live in now. We're like there probably is a kid napper Facebook group. I bet you there is Oh my god, I bet you there is. Oh, that makes me. Oh, Doug. He's a part of it Don't even joke about that. That's terrible. Yeah. He's like, yeah, don't even joke about that We I've been out of that group for at least ten years. Come on man. I gave my card back He's all yeah today's nine months. So I We actually had a close call once not we my sister did my sister walked home once by herself and I remember why she did that but She was walking home and then she comes home and she's like crying and My dad's like what's the matter? She goes some man Pulled up next to her and the cool. Here's a good thing that my parents did This is the good side effect of having overly can my parents were definitely especially my mom old-school Sicilian She'll put the fear in you and what I mean by that is like she'll say shit like that Like don't talk to anybody the garbage man will steal you the mailman. So you're walking home and you're like, oh shit Like nobody so my sister was walking home and some guy drove up some man drove up and a car opened his door And he's like, hey, do you want to play with my my kittens? Actually, yes, and my sister who loves kittens She stopped for a second and she looked and then she remembered my mom always told her do not ever So she said no, thank you and then the man kind of kept cruising next to her So she ran home. Wow. She told my dad and my dad was thank God He didn't run into anybody because it could have been anybody he could have run into some dude and just assumed It was him that man would have died. Yeah, yeah, because I remember my dad's like the look in his face I totally understand. Oh rage. Yep. That was that close call and then I had a close call once where I was riding my bike and We were I think we're on our way home from school and I stopped at my friend's house He had like one of those red those wagons what they call the radio real rare real flyer Yeah, he was in the back of the wagon and I was pulling him with my bike And there was a car coming on the road and I'm like, oh, I'll make it and I went around the car But I forgot I had the wagon Dude, bro, what a bad friend you are I totally got this he missed my friend by like molecules like So close to killing my friend in the back of any honk hello I like hello loud so the neighbors came out and everything and I got in big trouble for that This is the two close calls we had. Oh, you know, I I've never thought about this But I don't think I've ever had any close maybe my parents just thought that you know such a pain in the ass That anybody kidnap you would give me back Take this son of a bitch Dude I have so the crack so last night Katrina and I we're getting caught up on our billion show and In comes this text. She's talking to her niece her niece moved out to New York This last year. She's the one that works for Facebook. I've told you guys before as a recruiter and You know, so she's new to the area so she hops on, you know, the local fucking tender or whatever whatever it is Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so she's on there so she sends a screenshot to me last night of Who pops up as a match for her and I instantly die laughing right away and it is What's his face from shreds the CEO Arvin? No, wait here in the Bay Area. He's she's in New York Yeah, she so she just moved in New York, so she sighs Tinder profile. No, she didn't see his dinner He comes up as her match. They matched them together Right, right, so I'm looking at and which I thought was kind of crazy Like you're a CEO of a multi-million dollar company and you're and you have like a million followers on Instagram and you're still on Maybe it's fake. No, no, it's real. She's already contacted him. Oh, yeah, so he's 33. He went to Rutgers University About him Forbes featured CEO. You got to put that for it first. Yeah, absolutely. I would put that to him So if I want him Forbes, you know, that's an article about that's a yeah, that's a but yeah, no big deal It's there small small piece Well groomed and detailed oriented An ambitious woman is sexy being able to hold an intellectual conversation is a must having a sense of humor is a plus And then he's got four pictures of himself all very cool pictures, you know, he's got the Green sunglasses on inside and then he's got a full makeup full beard. He's got a great full beard. Let me see Okay, right here His beard. It's like perfectly lined up to like where there's no imperfection You wouldn't guess though. So a healthy beard healthy. He might he might die his beard. I didn't know he was younger than us Huh? I thought he was I thought he was our age or older. You know, he's only 33 No, I didn't know if I if you were a girl, would you would you swipe? He's a young in what is it? Right, what connects you right or left? If you and I'm looking at you like which one Do you want dugs the tender guy? That's right Which if you have dug on tinder if you were a chick, would you would you try to meet up with Arvin, I mean, yeah off his profile because he's got a great beard He's got cool sunglasses and he's been in Forbes really I'd bang it just because of that really I'm totally I'm a superficial chick. It's like a hit it and do we do this didn't we do it? I would look at this hit it and quit it. I'd look at this and be like Your beard is far too lined up. Looks like you you wax the fuck out of your eyebrows I You know because if I'm a girl I'm I want to be in I want to date a guy I don't want to do another girl. So it feels like it's a little bit too. So no, he's not my type Oh, see, so I'm okay with you like the manly men Uh, you know, maybe you're like a bear. Maybe you like a bear kind of guy Don't get excited Justin. I mean, okay I'm going with you. I mean look at this picture right here. Yeah eyeliner and lipstick. Okay. Am I wrong? It's it's a pretty look. Tell me Justin. You were a girl. Yeah. Yeah, would you say yes or no? You know, I'm like it's it's kind of Kind of girl with a beard vibe kind of right. Yeah, you'd say no. No Adam for sure would hit it. It's not a dude. Yeah, for sure. I think you get gorgeous eyes I mean he's pretty He's pretty. He's got gorgeous eyes, bro. You just at that point. It's competitive though You know what I mean, like you're a pretty girl and you look at that you're like this is competitive Right, so I could tell all my girlfriends that I I banged a fork CEO. That's that's I see you're a gold digger I totally I knew it. I was a chick. I would totally be that girl. I knew you were sure for sure I just thought it was fascinating that he was even on something like that because I would think like man Sliding a couple dms, bro. You're in like you're got a million people following you right now I gotta keep us updated with the progress Although I will tell you this, you know, I'll ask her I don't think she's really gonna go on a date She's no, I don't think that's her title She should just for investigation for us. That's a good point. Have her ask for a dick pic Tell her to do some work for us. Yeah, I want to see I want to see if you'll send a dick pic I don't want to see that. Do you want to look at it? No, I just want to know if you'll send it Although I do imagine I can imagine though. It's probably all lined up. I think that I think you know what I mean Fully groomed and shiny and also died black. I don't want the bad karma good lighting I think you get bad karma for trying to set up another dude to get a dick. That's true You know, there's box lights like you're gonna get you're gonna get fucking a catfish for that just because you did that You're like, oh, fuck. Yeah, there's other guys that just like rip, you know picks off the internet and just send them to girls Dude, I Let me tell you something That must be the guy don't ever send a dick pic and here's why I know this because my so my my girlfriend's friends We had this conversation once And any time a guy sends a dick pic the first thing they do is they show their friends So one of her friends gets a dick Hey, what do you think you know what they you know what they do? You know what dudes do? Apparently I guess this is super common According to her friends They'll send a dick pic and there's certain angles that they'll send it from obviously to make it look bigger But then they'll send it next to something for reference. Okay, so you get like a pencil It looks impressive bro, so this guy sends her a dick pic And he has his like his remote control next to it Just watching tv And it's my dog. Just so you know how big it is. You know how big them direct tv remote controls are My dick's almost you gotta find the skinniest remote. My dick reaches the the play button perspective You don't want one of those multi remotes, you know the one that like does everything in your house The big ass. What about the old school? Do you guys remember old school remote controls? Do you remember this thing? We had one it was like this huge rectangle It was like seriously like the size of a football and there's like five buttons on it. It was like up down Uh and maybe volume was and we would still fucking lose it. Yeah, how do you lose that big old brick? You know what was the remote control when I was a kid? Me I was the remote control. Yeah, I remember that shit. I would sit there. We'd watch tv Did you dad like throw something at your head? You know, no my dad my dad would be like go change the channel And I have to go over and like You know, okay next one. It's it's crazy when we think about that that we we did grow up in a Generation that did have and didn't have remotes at one point like I remember as a kid like the dial knob and having to go push the tv like Yeah, exactly. But here's the thing and actually taylor and I were talking with this morning We were over in will glenn having breakfast and talking And uh, you know, we had the scooters that the other day we were fucking around with Oh, there's a couple next year. That was so fun. Right. Very cool, right? Yeah And now they have the bikes everywhere and they're all everything's electric bikes And I was telling taylor, I was like, you know, it's crazy is that's super cool, right? So I'm not knocking it, but I think what we just don't realize is We slowly start taking all these little things out of our life that would would create movement and we burn calories Oh, yeah, that you just wouldn't have to do I mean riding a bike effortlessly on flat ground across town for three miles is so easy to do But now that it's electric, I mean you literally just you just cut you did more than cut your calories in half that You would burn pedaling that bike Zero effort now right and then you and then you look at these things that we started to like eliminate from our lives And then we wonder why we're having said we're struggling so much with burning calories and and losing body fat It's always crazy because when I was in san diego that same thing, right? You see everybody on electric scooters electric bikes and you're just like dude There is nobody like legit exercise anymore and it's the perfect environment for it, you know It's I was tripping out about that That's the knock that I have on a lot of the these futuristic like sci-fi movies that we see come out Is that's the one piece? I don't think they depict correctly is if you look at the statistically what's happening with obesity And the how much it's been on the rise and then what you see what's happening with technology Like you never see that it's in the movie But I like I would see I think we're just a bunch of fucking obese people sitting on sitting in front of computer There was one futuristic movie that was pretty that was like that and that was really walley. Yeah. Have you seen wall? No, I haven't seen wally. You haven't seen wally. No, oh great cartoon But a little depressing because they're in the future and they're on the spaceship because they left earth like generations ago Yeah, and everybody's massively obese in these little floating chairs And they only talk to each other through a screen even though they're right next to each other It's through a screen right. There's one scene where like the ship like pitches real strong Everybody falls out of their chair and they just yeah, they just roll around to roll Oh, yeah, see I think that I that's scary to think I don't know man I feel like if we if we in the future we have the technology to live on a spaceship in space Yeah, that should be able to solve Well, that's a problem right that that we will we will look at it as a problem that we're going to solve And so it's going to be one of those like things where we're going to try and solve it the easiest way possible With some kind of like nanobot or a pill a pill that like allows you to stop cravings, right? So it allows me to binge for a day But then I can like take a pill and now I don't even want those you step into some resistance chamber You know and then all of a sudden your muscles get stimulated without working. Yeah, see there's walley right there Oh, okay. Yeah, I can get on board with this bro. This is what I think it's you should watch that movie Dude, you and your girl would really like it. You know, it's it's a good one of my favorite ones Is it really that my kids loved it too. Yeah. Oh, it's one of the best ones I've seen one of the best Pixar movies by far for sure I'm sold. I'm sold. Yep. Anyway. No, I you know, it's it What do you know? What do you always say our greatest strength is our greatest weakness humans? What what makes us pretty awesome is we're constantly Aiming at making things more efficient. Like we're always working hard together Uh to try to make things easier on us and as a result of that because The natural state of humankind or mankind is Hard it's grinding poverty. It's starvation. It's disease. It's like it's cold. It's hot. It's it's tough We're like animals, but we've created these environments that are just super like no other animal hat lives the way we do And it's just going to keep getting easier because we constantly are aiming at making things More and more and more efficient to the point where yeah, I'm sure it's going to be we're We're not moving. I mean, it's funny that we have gyms. That's kind of weird, right? If you think about it, well, it basically replaces like farm work and like hard work You know, you're just like deliberately doing it in this confined area at this time frame, you know Instead of just like lifting heavy shit all day try explaining a gym to somebody a thousand years ago You imagine that you like sit down in front of somebody like, okay So we have a spot where you go in and you lift heavy things. Oh, what are you building? Oh, nothing you just lift them and you put them back down This goes back to my idea a long time We might have discussed this a long time ago But like instead of having a gym you have like an actual like commune farm Where you where everybody goes for an hour and like contributes like hard ass labor and like lift Shit and moves it produces like actual food and and people actually like do work again. That's brilliant But they pay you to do it. Yeah, so now you can sell them for yeah, it's a membership. That sounds so Like oh, I'm going to a gym. Yeah, you're not doing shit for everybody Why don't you go lift stuff that that contributes, you know There was a gym or a chain of gyms that tried to do that where you'd go in there and The cardio equipment would generate electricity. Yeah, that was something that I thought of I don't think that's ever happened I know in Oregon. They have one. Do they yeah, it actually powers the entire it's a full green gym Because I thought everything everything from like the roof would be on panel It would catch the rain It would be fucking all the treadmills would power power the electricity or power any sort of electricity inside the building Yeah, I even thought of like a membership idea that actually the more you exercise the more you contribute to the sweat equity Yes, what equity so you would so if you're somebody who has a membership Just say your membership you're paying full price But if you actually come in and use it and produce energy, there's people that are working on that Yeah, oh god exists. So that's a person working on that's a personal trainer strategy That's that's been getting more popular. Have you heard of this? I have heard of this where they actually get there I've seen some of these challenges where you get your money back if you actually Yep, so you'll pay like 300 dollars to enter into this fitness challenge And if you lose the weight that you commit to in the beginning you get money back Then you get your money back and you know what sucks about that is that they're profitable So what does that tell you? Yeah, well, there's super Yeah fail. I've seen trainer. I've seen trainers who are like no, this is like the model. This works really well It's kind of fucked up to think that you know, I don't know you kind of pray off of the the losers It doesn't sit well with me. You know, it doesn't either you're taking advantage of it. It just feels weird So adam you're saying you were slept hard last night So, you know, I wasn't planning on bringing this up because This is not a sponsor of ours, but they did send over This box to me and I've been kind of going through everything. It's the company is for FIR So I'm assuming that the FIR stands for far infrared And we've mentioned this on the show before about like the under armor shirts that are coming out. So The the infrared technology is exploding right now You can see it in the red sauna the Juve light and you know, leave it to the industry like anything else We get a little bit of good science and now you know, it's all over the place. Everybody's doing things So I'm looking into this company. I'm really fascinated with what really drew me to them originally was They're they're marketing to pets And so my guys like have like high anxiety and shit like that And so I have dogs that are like this that I'd like to calm down relax And they have these beds and blankets and things for the dogs and they have it for humans too And they sent me a whole care package of all this cool shit that I haven't even had a chance to use everything I have opened up this Blanket and it's a big blanket. It fits like Katrina night underneath it. It's unbelievably soft and comfortable So even if it doesn't work, I like the blanket. Do you plug it in or it emits? Yeah, I was gonna say infrared Is that the idea that that's the idea in it, right? So does it emit just from the maybe it reflects back the infrared You're creating with your body heat or something. That's what I think. I think I think it reflects it back Uh back onto your body. How thick is the the blanket? It's not that thick actually. It's pretty thin. Um, You know, it's oh, so I thought you were talking about a different product I thought you were talking about the weighted blanket. Yeah. Well, it does feel kind of weighted too. So it is a heavy Yeah, for for as thin as it is it feels it feels dense So it may have something in it I haven't had it. I haven't dug in enough to actually that's why when you brought it up I was like, well, fuck. I haven't done enough my own research right now to be able to speak really intelligently I totally thought you were talking about the Gravity density whatever. Yeah. No, this is this is uh infrared And it's like it's more like the under armor technology of what Like tom brady sleeping in every night, right now I hadn't brought it up because I'd just been kind of testing it out But I've slept with it every night for the last I don't know for a month four or five nights now and Really weird. I'm sleeping like Heavy suit and nothing's changed in my routine diets the same exercise the same Same time going to bed pretty much. I mean like my routine isn't like oddly weird right now, right? And I'm getting I'm sleeping fucking hard, but almost too hard I'm waking up in the morning where I I feel a little groggy when I first get up But I also am recognizing that I'm sleeping more through the night Like so I get up a lot to go to the restroom at least two three times a night So I haven't been doing that lately and I've been sleeping so hard I've been sleeping all the night, but then I also feel a little groggy from it So I don't know what it is yet. I haven't put it all together But it's pretty fascinating. Interesting. Yeah, it's really interesting. I'll look into it I thought you were talking about the gravity blankets, which I for sure notice those make a big difference The kind of heavy weighted ones because they make you feel I don't know secure or whatever Right, but the far the forum for red blankets and this one you don't plug in or anything So I'm I'm assuming it's got something that reflects back Right. I'm assuming it's the exact same technology hot underneath it Isn't that crazy? Yeah Like you said, we get one piece of science that has kind of has a breakthrough And so you see like this far infrared being, you know, emitted through saunas You see it emitted through these lights and now it's in your blankets and your clothes It's like we they go fucking crazy with it. Yeah, no, it's it's I mean, it feels like it's a little weighted But it's it's not um, they don't market it and advertise it as a, you know, a weighted blanket It's a it's a far infrared Well, I know that infrared, I mean that type of, you know Light or radiation does penetrate tissue deeper It does dilate blood vessels and open up capillaries and all that stuff and That may just be relaxing because And this is pure speculation, by the way, I have no idea What the science is behind it, but When you're in a stressed out or fight or flight Kind of state Your your blood vessels tend to constrict you get a vasoconstrictive effect where everything constricts And you're like ready to pounce or move And so that may the fact that it dilates blood vessels and relaxes those things may just be giving you that feedback to your body It says oh we can relax. Yeah, you know, I mean things are okay Maybe I don't know because then again if I'm in a super hot room I'm not sleeping well and that'll dilate the fuck out of your blood vessels, right, you know what I'm saying Interesting, I don't know. Yeah, I'm like I said, I'm I'm testing it out. They gave me a bunch of different things So I and like originally I was excited. I'm like willing to try anything with the boys You know anything that makes them sleep really well or calms them down Because I do I have dogs that have anxiety, you know, I have fucking, you know, 2018 year old Fucking this generation of ADD It's trickled into my fucking bulldogs It's gone to the pet level Oh It's either Adderall or the fucking far infrared fucking Blakey, you know I'm saying Do they have issues sleeping? You know, if I if they're exercising well, I'm feeding them good. They're and and all that is in line They sleep pretty well Otherwise if I don't if I if they're overfed under under exercise or anything like that at all then it's it's off So and they it's crazy because with them it there's an easy measure engage because they're they snore loud And they're loud as fuck when you're not if they're not being exercised They're not being fed well And they and I take and they go to bed They're they're so loud when they sleep, but if I actually wear them out They're they're they're good on their weight. They're not overeating because the bulldogs can overeat really easy like a lot of people Over in fact my my breeder always gives me shit about their weight like oh, you need to feed them more feed them more You know, they're like the Italian family Like no, I don't need to feed them more. I get that all the time Oh, they always want me to feed them more and I'm like no you guys overfeed them like I feed the dogs I treat the dogs the same way I treat myself, which is I feed according according to my activity So for some reason I've been traveling. I've been super busy. They're not getting a walk or two walks a day I'm not feeding them fucking four six cups of food every single day. It doesn't make sense to do that They're not they're it's no different for them than it is us. There's a lot of obese bulldogs. Yeah, a lot of Yeah, there's a I mean, you know that obese dogs. There's a lot of obese animals. That's it. That's the in general I don't know if you've ever seen that. Have you ever seen that chart before like the increase in obesity in animals? No, but I believe it. Yeah, you know and in cancer rates cancer rates have exploded cancer and obesity is Exploded just as fast and hard in in animals that has seen the shift from grains, you know over to to meat And so I I've noticed that they are trying to address that and trying to get more organic food Oh the dog the dog food stuff starting to change now because it used to be just Shit, it was just corn. Oh, yeah, it's and a bunch of grain and you're literally that's Left over. Yeah, and you're feeding your dog what they feed cattle to fatten them up, you know I mean kind of same kind of stuff. It's funny I wonder when you're if we're gonna see companies like and I think organifi would be a perfect company to make this transition I think in the future. We're gonna see lots of these companies Not only do like food for humans, but also food for animals the way we are with our animals We bring them everywhere they go. It's a huge market. It's a huge market and it's continuing It's tinling. Oh, what's that say Doug? Oh, it was a 59 percent of Animals are obese it's got some cutesy graphics to kind of display that dude, you know This is such a this is such a first I trust cutesy such a first world problem You know what I mean? Like in a country like America with all this food and of course anywhere else they'd eat them Yeah, like animals everywhere else. It would be starving. So when my my dad He said my dad used to trip out when my dad came to this country You got to keep in mind too. My dad came to this country when he was 19 And he was his generation in Sicily still the poorer part of Italy But when he was a kid it was also it was also much more poor and his family's also Poor on top of that. So then just Sicilians are also poor Sicilians During a time when it was much more, you know, much more of that going on He used to come over here and used to trip out that people would have like They're animals in their houses and they'd have their own little sections and people preparing them food He's like what he goes fuck people treat animals here better than Yeah, then people, you know, he's like this trips me out. It's kind of crazy. Well, we also grew up in the generation of Picking up dog shit and I'm picking up dog shit. You remember that. Oh, nobody picked up dog That didn't exist when we were kids All right, I kind of brush it off. So you don't like deliver the step on it That didn't even exist and I don't remember so true. I forgot about yes And there was then at one point there was like this hard transition Then all of a sudden it became like, oh my god. You just let your dog shit on there Oh, yeah, and you didn't pick it up. Please if somebody spots you not picking your dog shit up They're coming for it. Yeah, it's bad as blown smoke in their kid's face for sure Now it's like, you know that you know that uh next door that that, uh Community or whatever that platform. Have you heard of next door? Okay. So next door. It's like basically It's where neighbors all go to collectively fucking complain about everybody. Yeah, we have so obnoxious We have emails all the time. We have it. We're connected to it in our neighborhoods So that's like one of those things that pops up all the time like this dog and this owner came by and they took a shit They didn't pick it up They're like it's this is just a continuous Like problem. Oh my god. That's so funny. That's so annoying. I must have stepped in dog shit once a week when I was a kid There was always Ah, you got me. Yeah, I just think it's it's fascinating that it was something that we were We didn't do whatsoever and then now it's because it's like I said again similar to the the secret thing The only difference though is like the shit's good for the grass The shit's good. That's what I'm saying. That's why it's that's why that's weird to me Like obviously I get understand the blowing smoke at a restaurant or that that makes a lot of sense why that's you know demonized now But the the dog shitting on the dirt or the grass. What annoys me is I get it's annoying if you step on it What annoys me is the trails that you you're allowed as a human to go on and go through all these awesome trails But you can't bring a dog on a leash Because it's gonna like disrupt the environment with like the fucking mountain lions and like squirrels and everybody else like I don't know. Yeah, there's all kinds of trails and Santa Cruz and every like you can't have dogs. Yeah It's epic. So I do it. Anyway, you know, you're an asshole. Yeah, because you put there's probably something you're missing You know what? I wonder if you don't think it has something to do with like the scent of the dog Probably throws off probably if I'm letting them pee on stuff Right, right. So you just probably fucked anybody who wants to see like any real sure, but it's it's nature Like oh like some little like endangered birds go like And then like croak, you know, no, I don't think it'll go away, right? I think that's I think that's the thought process Right, I think it's I it's stupid. I don't know. I think it's stupid. That's what dogs are an animal That's their trails are for if you can't handle an animal scent, then you're fucking a weak animal Let me ask you a question Let me ask you guys a question When you're on a trail and you're two miles into the trail and you got to take a piss What do you do? I smell the bush and if someone pee there before me, I piss all over it You smell the bush Pee on top of pee. It smells like Justin. I'm fucking pissing all over this Dude, I come back and shit on it Dude, that's what I do I got some cool shit to share with you guys before I forget because I just remembered yesterday Uh, I told you guys about gw farmer circle and what happened with them, right? So gw is this is for the listeners. They are the Leading Biotech company that is producing medicines that are created from the marijuana plant cannabinoid plant actual Pharmaceutical grade drugs that you know, we will be able to prescribe and give to patients And their share price, you know, the prices of the shares have Fluctuated but it seems to be like the play if you want to invest in marijuana And you want to do it legally, you know, like fully legally. This is where people are going Well, they have a drug that They've been, uh, you know, studying to treat, uh, intractable forms of epilepsy There's certain types of epilepsy that we have no medications for I can't remember the name of the type of epilepsy, uh, dravet, I think it's dravet syndrome, but Uh, there's nothing there's nothing you can do with it and some kids will get You know 10 20 50 100 seizures a day From this type of epilepsy and it caught and it's terrible. I can't even I mean I I I have a family member who has epilepsy and they didn't have that kind But I've seen a seizure and it's terrifying and I can't imagine having 10 a day let alone, you know 50 a day or 100 a day and it causes brain damage when you when this happens over time And it's terrible and it affects children. So CBD cannabidiol what would happen? This is a great thing about the internet, by the way When marijuana started making its way towards being legalized in some states People were figuring out that high CBD cannabis Was suppressing or stopping seizures and there was a in colorado in particular There was these there were these this group of individuals who were talking about online online and before you know it Parents were flying their kids because at that I mean imagine if you're a parent with a kid who has oh, yeah all these seizures And there's no nothing you can do you're willing to try anything rather than watch your kid deteriorate and so through the forums through the internet through these through anecdote because there was no study People were getting loud enough and causing scientists to say we should study this and so gw which already had Started creating cannabinoid based medicines looked at this and said oh, shit. There may be something here Start testing it's a long story short The FDA has isn't about hasn't Approved it yet, but the other day made a comment and said it looks like we're probably going to Approve this drug for this treatment of this this type of epilepsy Which exploded the price of the shares that went up like 13 and one day, which is which is pretty exciting so exciting news because The the more we can get on board with actual pharmaceutical You know playing the game and going that route The more likely we will be to legalizing cannabis period, you know nationwide and trump just told Just said or or the guy that handles the the drug policy just said That they're probably they're going to create a way for states who legalize marijuana to be able to keep it legal And for the feds to not like step in So it's another kind of big step. So we're we're we're on our way with this But it's interesting because the cannabinoids themselves are this new class of molecule And I think this is the tip of the iceberg because they're studying it for uh inflammatory diseases autoimmune diseases cancer Diabetes all of which have Pretty promising looking studies and trials showing that there there may be some positive effects Which leads me to the next topic which is connected So we've talked about this a lot about how cannabinoids are anti-inflammatory in the body And that's that's widely known now. That's totally accepted in the Medical community that cannabinoids have this kind of systemic anti-inflammatory effect Where if you have autoimmune issues that cause lots of inflammation or you have lots of pain Uh, you know, especially nerve pain The use of cannabinoids reduces that both acutely like oh, I feel less pain now because I just took it And over time has got this great anti-inflammatory effect And it's mediated through the you know, the the cannabinoid receptors the cb1 and cb2 receptors I just learned this the other day because you know how I talked about how lately I've been using the Organifi uh turmeric, uh high doses. So I'm taking Between five to ten capsules of it a day, which is a higher dose than they recommend But it's it's a it's a it's a plant or an herb So it's not a big deal But I'm doing that for the anti-inflammatory effects because my workouts right now are just I am pushing my body. Yeah, dude. I'm I'm pushing my body hard right now And my gut is healthy. So I'm trying to put on strength and size It seems to be working. I've gained like six or seven pounds of lean body mass Feel really good But I'm pushing my body to the line and limit and I've been throwing in the turmeric and I'm pretty Uh blown away by Like how much healthier the inflammation feels like I still feel sore muscles and stuff But my joints feel good. I'm feeling better mobility So I did some more research on it and I've already I was already familiar with all the studies showing that the active ingredient in turmeric Called curcumin has got the systemic anti-inflammatory effects. There's lots of science showing it's anti-cancer and it's just really good for you So I looked up the actual molecule itself and I did not realize this but curcumin Uh could be technically classified as a phyto cannabinoid It actually uh has an affinity for the cb1 receptor in the body. So the same characteristics So it actually what's your thoughts on combining it then? So I don't know. That's it's an interesting It's very fascinating, right? But it does have an affinity for the the cb1 receptor If I'm not mistaken in the body, which is a cannabinoid receptor and there are other Now when you say an affinity does that means it just can couple with it or yes Yes, so it actually will will interact with it and cause it to express now Is that common or uncommon like how many other different compounds I think ginger I think ginger and ginger and turmeric. I believe are related I think is another one and I'm not familiar with any others But curcumin is the more widely studied One that has those effects and they think that that may be How it's mediating its effects So if you are listening and you're in a state where you don't have access to Cannabis and you want to utilize cannabinoids for anti-inflammatory effects or for Immunomodulating effects and all that You can get your hands on really high quality turmeric or curcumin which is when it were standardized Of course organifies the the company we work with and I'm really really pleased with the quality of the product It's organic you can use that and you might be able to get Some of the effects that you would get from cannabinoids. You're not going to get high So it's not going to make you, you know, it doesn't have any psychoactive effects But you may get the other effects and you know, look at all the things that those receptors positively influence anxiety Is another one like, you know, I know the you know, the cannabinoids can make you feel better if you have anxiety I'm wondering if and I haven't looked it up yet I'm wondering if they've done studies on curcumin and how it affects depression and anxiety I would assume it's got a positive effect if it's so anti-inflammatory. That's really interesting. Isn't that fascinating? Yeah, that's really yeah, so you could look up. I'm going to do this later today. I'm going to look up Coction CBD. Yeah phyto cannabinoids that are not from the cannabis plant and see if I can find some more But you know when we talked about the the big the big race to space and all that stuff that's going on with Elon Musk and everything Yes, you know, there's another big huge and then the self-automated cars The other big race that's happening right now is um the race to 5g Have you guys heard or read anything on this? You mean for phone tech or whatever? Yeah, yeah, really so that so I didn't know that every time like we've went from 2g to 3g to 4g to now We're working towards 5g the the country that like comes up with the technology and actually implements it first It's like a 500 billion dollar shot into your into your economy increases efficiency and speed Yes, like right away if you become the first to like put it all out there And we're like in this neck and neck race. I think is it with China or Russia I can't remember is it patentable or is that one of those once somebody comes up with it like they're first to market No, yeah, you can't patent that you can't patent the tech technology like that But what's happening right now? It's just who can get all get all the technology out to all the first Yeah, and so you use like Verizon AT&T all these different Platinum the reason why we're getting doesn't make a difference with how many towers they have like and they keep Populating more towers and in more areas to kind of build up that speed Well, I would imagine so but why were there it is China is beating us The reason why China is is beating us is because everything's through the government so they can just like mandate it like okay All this money is being allocated right now We're going to all of a sudden put it all here so we can win this race and get there first doing the same with ai too Which is oh really? Yeah, it's scary. Yeah, so that's so here's the thing with that like 5g when it goes through wi-fi It's more. I mean it's more juice, right? It's more power going through I Want somebody in our forum just posted this study on wi-fi and I believe it was a meta analysis and There's pretty conclusive evidence that wi-fi has negative effects on like testicular health Induces apoptosis Dude, we may be sitting on a fucking Landmine like I read some of this stuff and I'm going to start doing some of my own research But people like dr. Macaulay ben greenfield and some other people that I respect have been warning against And I know with wi-fi like remember ben greenfield's house. Everything was land. He didn't have anything yet everything wired And uh, you know other people are saying who are reputable are saying like turn off wi-fi Bro, it's it's an unbelievably combative. So the the 5g system will support a thousand more devices per meter than the 4g Yeah, so think about that for a second like you wonder what if we're sitting on some What if we like in 10 years we look back and we're like oh, shit like we caused people will literally have 10 foil hats on A lot of problems People are going to see walking around to like a shield that walks walking into a bunch of waves of you know wi-fi Well, that that's electricity. That's the scary part about like I think of half the country is more than half the country Doesn't need to worry. I fear like where we're at Like we're in this little silicon valley bubble where like you can't anywhere you go You're like you ever notice that now on your phone like rarely ever does my phone drop to Picking up wi-fi. Yeah, it picks up wi-fi everywhere. It's just it's it's it's I mean we've got it now in our city to where Almost everywhere is putting out. Could you imagine if that's like the silver bullet if they're like, oh, it was wi-fi That's why we had these ridiculous exploding rates of all these, you know Anxiety and all these other things. Well, the only thing with that is that the wi-fi hasn't even been around that long That's what I'm saying. So I would I wonder it's interesting right because wi-fi and mobile phones kind of really came on the scene right around the same time It'd be hard to isolate which one is doing which this is one of those things that I think Has an effect on the body, but it's not big enough to see in like immediately Like you'd have to have a long-term study or you'd see it Well, obviously not or it wouldn't be where it's at right another environmental factor It's just it's it can't be ideal. This is why too. I think again like places where like justin live I think Are going to be sought out more and more as we get as we get older I get terrible reception in my house like it still trips me out It's it's super popular to be close to a city, right? That's why it's so expensive city and water is where everybody wants to be Right. So when you look at cities like san francisco and san jose that are near near the water near the bay And it's a big city la super popular, but I think a lot of that's going to change I think uh Mountains and getting away from that and and fresh air and not being in a wi-fi bubble 24 7 I think more and more people will seek that type of an environment Especially as everything becomes so readily available and so quick to us right like Being in the city used to matter a lot because if you had access to everything so quick because you're there in the middle of it Right, but now we're being able to provide access to everybody anywhere At all times I feel like there's less and if you can start working while you're commuting You know, like that's a whole another factor that would make it more Of an appeal to live a little bit more in a remote Location it is I I wonder if the if the like real estate that is Properties that are way out in the boondocks, which used to be worth nothing I wonder if that's going to start going up a lot because Everybody's gonna want to escape so much. You know, I mean, I don't give all these people ideas Don't tell them our secrets. Yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying Doesn't it kind of don't you kind of feel like that might be something that kid? Yeah I mean, it's I don't know. I feel like I need to detach myself from It I remember somebody talking about like There's an actual feeling like when everybody is up At the same time and everybody's moving and like everything is is happening versus like, you know At night when there's less people on the road. There's those people working like there's like a physical sort of a feeling One versus the other when we're talking about like graveyard shift and all that kind of stuff like how Impactful that is but it's just like like you're you're somewhat receptive to that Just just the energy it does it does feel very different to be in nature Even if I have my phone on me, you know or whatever usually I don't I'll turn it off But to be in nature even for 30 minutes to an hour. It's it's it's very interesting It's and it's hard to it's one of those things like it's hard to to figure out what exactly it is It's one of those things that you didn't give two shits about or did I like as a kid growing up No, you don't even you don't connect those dots till you get older, right? I didn't stand I used to always think it was so cheesy like when your uncle or grandfather or whatever that wanted to stop And just like yeah, look at the trees You know what I'm saying let's sit on the porch. Yeah, right and just like in silence and look out I'm like this is lame. Do I got video games? I got things to do right now forts to build whatever and you want to take off and you don't think about that We're now There's a different appreciation that I have it's so true like as a kid. I never got that sense of like You know that in you know that inner feeling of awe when you like like when I went to yosemite and I Drove up and I could see you know bridal veil the the the waterfall coming down and you just sit there and stare at And you feel was magnificent almost emotional Yeah, it's like almost an emotional feeling never Did I get that when I was a kid? I'd look at stuff and be like, okay Like cool. Yeah. What's next now? I can climb it. Yeah, or even a sunset or whatever and I sound like I'm getting all sentimental I like sunsets. You know what I'm saying long walks on the beach Dude, so I got another study for you guys. That's kind of cool This one was printed. This is in pub med and it's a new one 2018 the title of the study exercise alters Gut microbiota composition in and function In lean and obese humans So they did is they took obese humans and they took Lean humans and they had them work out and then they Tested their their measures their poop their gut microbiome And the they don't I mean this this it's not they're not showing what the changes were and they're not saying if it was good or bad But the exercise changed fundamentally what their microbiome looked like now for me when I see this it's cool But this is one of those studies where I'm like, well it makes perfect sense I think everything affects your microbiome, of course. It's so intricately to you know If it's so connected with your body, it's truly your second brain Then 100% it would be just like it's the same studies that when we list when you read like neuroscience stuff that I struggle with it's like We we see like parts of the brain light up and then we try to make these connections Like oh that means you must be deep in thought or oh that must mean you're using this part of your brain Therefore it's this is there it's like we know so little right now both about the brain and the gut That we try and make all it could be mimicking it but having a totally different effect We have all these all these two that's crazy to think about it's interesting You just said, you know, we've said just so many times that I just thought of this like You have your brain, which is obviously your your your first brain right and the second brain is the gut because it's got the second highest, you know Receptor density for neurotransmitters like serotonin You so you feel things in your gut you tend to feel things that your subconscious Tells you to feel in your gut before even conscious of them and all that stuff But your brain your first brain the one that's in your head Doesn't it's just the brain it doesn't have bacteria in it. That's totally influencing it Directly but the gut does although it does too. No, they did show that there was a direct connection to brain so I mean The microbiome is is a part of your thought process. It's kind of weird to think about right Of course very very strange to think about I mean How much are they influencing your thought process? Well? It goes back to like the integration of everything and how everything like works with each other Like your body as a whole versus like compartmentalizing your brain just being this command center Like I don't think the brain is completely like that's its only function Like it uses the microbiome like everything's in communication the touch the smell like all these different This a study like this tells me is why unless you have like an issue like a health issue Why these snapshots of your microbiome like these tests that are like we're gonna test your microbiome and tell you How you should be eating or whatever your gut? biome changes At an end they could change like I could eat something right now. It'll change I could have a thought or or have a reaction to something. It'll change. I could work out. It'll change It changes all the time. I don't think those are going to be very valuable unless you have like an issue like a specific issue I think it's more it's going to be valuable when we have Real-time readings when we understand the microbiome And I have an app on my phone and I can see throughout the day Yeah, it's almost like like when we talked to dr. Molly and she talks about Like these these these glucose tests and stuff. She's like, well, it's a snapshot. It's happening right now But that doesn't necessarily mean that's what's happening. Yeah later on it's even it's more so I think even because I don't know if it's dr. Roosie, but I remember him talking about just how they used to That take samples and so they take like, you know, your your poop as an example. That's like old You know, that's an old story. It's an old culture that you know already has has passed through your system Those are the dead ones. I just said that died off, right? So that's living it. Yeah That's why so it's not like an accurate depiction of like what really is is going on. I mean, I think it's I think it's cool I think studies like that are cool and I think that it just confirms what we think and it helps I think it could help somebody who's trying like a process of elimination like I'm trying to figure out Okay, I've done this I've done that is this making things worse or better I think it can help it just like the brain thing like I think that Understanding what parts of the brain and lighting up does tell us a little bit of the story But it's such a small piece of the story when you talk about How many different pathways are involved in that and how many how much of your Current environment your past environment all of the things your interactions that you had All those things are getting calculated in your brain at the same time. Why would it be any different than your stomach, right? Why wouldn't your mood that you've had that day also be potentially affecting your stomach what you ate that day Potentially whether you worked out or didn't whether you sleep your stress levels It's like this it's there's so many variables that I think are playing a role in the biome Just like I think in in your brain that it's well There's I mean there's other so there's another article that I was reading earlier Called exercise induced stress behavior gut microbiota brain access and diet a systemic or sorry systematic review for athletes This was in 2016 And it's a it's a fascinating article that I'm reading and there was one part here That talks about how um, let me see here Here it is some preliminary preliminary experimental data obtained from studies using Probiotics and prebiotics studies show some interesting results indicating that the microbiota acts like an endocrine organ Yeah, I'm sure I'm saying that right right wrong right dug endocrine endocrine organ Example secreting serotonin dopamine or other neurotransmitters and may control ready for this the hpa axis In athletes, that's the hypothalamus pituitary and adrenal axis Why only in athletes what well they're because this study was done these studies were done on athletes Oh, I got I was like that didn't make sense. Yeah, so when they talk, you know when they talk about studies they have to be very specific, right, but um That's crazy acting like an endocrine organ like how like influencing how your body, you know Uses hormones and stuff. I'm telling you guys right now like the next 30 years is going to be a biology breakthrough that or by it's going to be breakthroughs in biology That are going to blow everyone away and it's going to be because of the microbiome It's going to blow the fuck off of the doors of medicine Because it's it's just everything that's coming out is showing like the more stuff like penicillin Oh, dude, it's the more studies that come out the more important It's becoming like the more like like oh wow, it's super important other study comes out like wait a minute That may be the most important thing That you know has to do with our health in our entire body I think that in the neuroscience side I think those two both because I think we're starting to find out how much more to like even your thoughts affect everything like that like I We how much did you look at like, you know Yoga practice and meditation and things like that just 15 20 years ago was something almost laughable before Where it's being taken very serious by a lot of people who would be talking shit about it just 10 50 Yeah, there's an actual way you can direct your thoughts and in a beneficial manner versus just like aimlessly kind of You know reacting to right so this this this healthy healing process in the future I believe will have a lot to do with your thoughts and your brain and then everything to do with the spirit It's the spiritual fitness, you know, and I hate saying that because it sounds like you have well You hate saying it because it's a made-up word just like every other fucking word Yeah, that's finally putting science in there to give you new terms. Yeah. Yeah, it just it's just another aspect of health and You know having a feeling a feeling of meaning in life is extremely important. It's extremely more and more about that Through stuff that i'm reading right now and how that I mean that can change your life completely Your life doesn't have to be any different But if you think there's meaning in it or you feel there's meaning in it all of a sudden your life Your body reflects it everything's different You know I mean just because you feel that and if you feel like there's no meaning It really doesn't matter how much money you have and all the things you do All that stuff is it doesn't matter. I agree Taylor, thanks for joining us on this podcast. We got some questions for you, bro Our schedule is getting crazy. That's not the question. The question is it's a microbiome question Go ahead and give it to him. Yeah, so what do you think of bifidobacterium when include it? No, I'm just kidding Befiddo. Yeah, no, no, we got we got our west coast tour coming up right now. We drop into uh, west coast Yeah, so what's going on? Let's break it down. So we're I'm making the band and we're going on tour You see you see I told you guys. What do you mean? We're going on a band I feel like Justin's been influencing you a lot with this. You may have something to do with it So what's going on? Taylor? What do you mean on on tour? What is that? So? You know Justin always refers to us as kind of like this rock band of sorts. He's got that that guitar going action back there I secretly want to become the the puff daddy of podcasting Okay, so if you're a puff daddy and you're producing us like who's who's like mace who's biggie You know who's two pock like give give us the rundown. Who's mary j. Who's mary j. All right for sure. Justin. Yeah Justin's I'm a bit of a diva. Yeah Yeah, no, but I really wanted you know this year one of the things that I wanted to focus on is Getting us out of the studio and giving our fans and listeners an opportunity to experience the podcast in person And I think that's really important. So when you know, I there's a lot of parallels between Music and podcasting and one of the things that I I keep bringing to mind is like when you're listening to your favorite artist You get to you get to listen to their music in your car and your phone at the gym you get to You get to follow them on social media kind of get an idea of troll troll their page Their page give them show them slide their dms. Yeah, you can do all that, right? Now here's the here's the biggest difference when it comes to the music side of the business and podcasting is Fans of artists get to go to concerts And the experiences they get to go support them They get to go they get the the full the full effect And one of the things I really wanted to do is give our fans and listeners an opportunity to do that And I think it's really important. So what's that gonna look like? I know you've we've uh, we're gonna be podcasting in front of the audience Yes, sir. Yeah, we're gonna be doing like live q&a's and then I know that kissing baby You've started. I mean technically we start in uh, austin where we're gonna be down there for pay the effects And then and then the very next week we come back and then we're gonna do we go San Diego LA And then Seattle, is that right? sir Okay, and then what what what companies first we do Viori, is that right? Correct So this is with each stop is going to be hosted with one of our partners that we're currently Connected with so it the first stop is going to be in San Diego at the Vory flagship Yeah, there's going to be free beer and wine and kombucha. Oh, I am in All right So everybody that has an opportunity to attend that will we'll Get some free beverages then we have the dosus event that will be a very Intimate experience live podcast live q&a Um in some free samples from from our sponsor samples of weed Just so people know That'll be a little limited who we allow in that one for sure Super special and then the last one is up in Seattle with with mirror, right? That's correct So we're gonna do uh, we're gonna do that one will be an actual live podcast interview Um, and then that will transition over and so the other ones are all q&a is what we're just doing It'll be a little bit more casual q&a and then just have it, you know We're interviewing mirror because he we haven't interviewed me yet. We've already obviously interviewed viori and yeah We've already done gel already so a mirror we have not and he's got a really cool story So I know we're gonna do that and I think the idea what we're gonna do So this is the first time we're really announcing this on the show Is we're we're gonna allow what 25 or 30 you think of our listeners We'll do some sort of a sign up You know if you're in the area or if you can just be be in the area during those times Uh, and we're gonna I think randomly pick 25 or 30 fans So we'd like stay tuned for now. It's a it's a it's a private event, right? Yeah, these aren't aren't gonna be open to the public So not everybody can attend you're gonna have to have rsvp ahead of time and we'll uh, it's gonna be a curated experience So want it to be fun exciting engaging Dang, that sounds cool. I'm excited. Do you know that? Do you know that? I'm sure do you know viori's date? I'll top your head. You know that off top the first vory katrino will be thankful for this. It's gonna be the 10th. Okay. Yeah I nailed that one So that'll be the 10th uh Dosis is gonna be the 17th the following week and then the next day We're gonna be up in seattle on the 18th. Okay, cool. And then we'll have dug put something together as far as how listeners can email in and potentially Uh show up and be at the the private event, but it will be private. So you will have to get a Invitation yeah an invitation so because we're giving away free shit and stuff in there make it cool. Yeah. Thank you, son Thank you guys appreciate it. Love you Taylor This clause brought to you by organifi For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organifi fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health the performance the added edge Try organifi totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organifi.com That's or gani fi dot com and use a coupon code mind pump for 20 off at checkout See jinn score My wife and I are getting ready to have our first child in july We are both health conscious and fit individuals Order your suggestions with trying to get workouts in recovery, etc Plus one piece of advice you have for a new father Um, good luck. Yeah, it's my piece of advice That's uh, it's too late journeys to you know, it's funny like I've met people who handle this and they just exceptionally well to handle like a team and then there's the situations where people tend to forget that they're a team and people get you know They start to feel resentment towards each other anger You're doing more stuff for yourself than I am and vice versa You know, here's the thing it requires a lot more planning and I think one of the problems with Having kids or getting married and having jobs and all that is that When you're single or when it's just you and your girl You can do a lot of the things spur of the moment And so you you know, like you have sex spur of the moment like oh cool We're home today. Like we don't have anyone around. Let's have sex or let's go out to dinner or let's just go to the movies And it feels spontaneous and it feels awesome But then when your schedules get really hectic you both work you have kids school all these things are especially if we have a new baby spontaneity It's it's not don't count on it You can't count on it and and be okay with that because I think a lot of people are resistant to that like I I remember I was like I remember You know talking to you know people and you know people that I admired and I talked to them about the whole sex thing And it'd be like, you know Things are super busy We're not getting a lot of sleep And we just don't seem to be having a lot of sex and they would tell me like well schedule it And I used to laugh at that I balk and be like schedule it Like no, that's not how sex works. It needs to be Spontaneous and it's like no like you're if you wait for it to spontaneously happen Then you can expect to have less sex or you can expect to have less Opportunities to do things so planning is real important when you plan things it doesn't make it any less You know romantic or whatever and so that applies to everything when you have a child Sit down with your wife. You've got a new baby sit down with your wife Talk about the priorities prioritize you first And your relationship with your wife Second and the relation and then your child third no no no shit That sounds crazy because a lot of people think no my my kid is number one and I get that I'm a parent too But if you don't take care of you and take care of you and your wife Then you're not going to take care of your kid no matter how much you think your your your child is number one Yeah, well the the go to is immediately both like pour yourselves completely in the needs of the new kid Because that's that's like the center of focus and so it is important to then pull yourself out And consider your own health and well-being and contributions because it'll help to pour in You know to the environment and It you have to look at working out and and your schedule completely different, you know going forward from then on out so Especially during this time it's it's a little bit of a boot camp sort of a situation where You realize everybody isn't going to be getting sleep isn't going to be at their most fun loving, you know joyous attitude Just because it's it's wearing but it's It is it's a bit of a team effort where You know you have sort of assignments that you you need to accomplish And that's one of those things you need to you need to make sure you preserve your mental health through this whole situation and so going into the workouts that should really feed into uh more of a therapeutic type of You know of an environment as as opposed to like really crushing weights and you know adding any intensity I would actually lower my intensity significantly and just try to You know maintain focus on Frequently, you know getting into that environment because getting into that environment is Is is that change that you need because everything is going to be so consumed around You know this new this new child that that made its way into your life It's if you if you start off with open clear Uh communication like if you sit down with your wife and you say okay, here's the situation We've got this incredible addition to our family That requires a lot of responsibility and obviously we both Can feel the love for this kid and feel how important this this this child is and now how how much our lives have changed We need to we need to sit down And talk about things that we need to do to maintain ourselves So that we have a good relationship so that we maintain our jobs and maintain some independence And take care of our child and sit down and actually and spell it out. Tell your wife. Here's what's super important to me I want to ensure that you and I and i'm making these up so it could be whatever you want But I want to ensure that you and I have A good intimate and healthy intimate relationship So once a week For me, it's a priority that we schedule once a week where you and I get Uh a date night or you and make that happen like this is real important to me and maybe she says Well for me, what's real important is that I get at least three hours a week Of a alone time to exercise or to do whatever I want Maybe I don't exercise but to do whatever I want and you guys sit there and you and you you write these out You figure out what's possible Which ones you guys can do and then your job is to make sure That you meet all those things for your wife and her job for you is to make sure she meets all those things for you And watch what happens when you guys become partners like that where you look at a at a situation And say to yourselves, you know, okay Here's something that we're working on together as a team versus Whoa, look at all this shit that happened. You know, this is going to be kind of crazy and stressful Let's see how I can handle this it's it changes everything when you can work together It makes uh, it makes this because here's the other side of this having a baby It's the uh, probably one of the most incredible growth opportunities you'll ever have in your life And it'll give you meaning like nothing else If you guys work together, this can be the most awesome Experience of your lives if you don't work together It can be a very difficult trying time another thing that we sort of learned after having our second You know kid was to just get outside of this the sterile environment all the time, you know, and um The whole focus was to really like maintain these sleep patterns, which is important. It's important to get like that um consistency around the child so they can they can you know Have this this sort of balanced and and and get like this regular sleep So then it becomes like they can get into that sort of rhythm of it a bit better But what we started to do is to you know, take the Bjorn and take Opportunities where we would go hiking we go outside and together we're getting physical activity Um and being a little more adventurous as far as that's concerned That man that that was like a game changer for us as far as like, you know changing That that static environment feel because it feels a little bit like, you know, you're confined, you know, like both both parts I mean, you know, my wife Just just being there just, you know nursing and then just being everything was revolving around You know the kid where it's like let's get out of this. Let's get out outside. Let's go do things still um But uh, there's there's opportunities like that now where you can carry them and keep them close and still keep them on schedule But get get outside, man. Yeah, I like I said, I think if you if you both sit down and Plan things out like here's a good example Meal time or food right right for dinner like you you know, it used to be before you had a kid Whoever got home first would start preparing dinner and then we're gonna eat it Well, it'll help you a lot if you plan that ahead of time if you make Maybe you find that you have some time on monday at you know for an hour and a half And so you prepare the next three dinners and you put them all in the fridge Let me tell you that simple thing right there Makes a tremendous difference in reducing the amount of stress And the amount of you know, hecticness that happens when things are you ever do this where you have like all these things that you need to do You have all these, you know, I have this to do have that too and you and just feels like it's too much And it's overwhelming But then when you sit down and you make a list And then you start to check them off You start to cross them off You feel this tremendous relief sense of relief and And sense of like like reprieve like your anxiety starts to lower So that's how you start to treat these types of things and and what you'll find is if you do this Well, and you both dedicate yourself to doing this in this way and you just plan That it's a breeze. It's actually not a problem If you don't it'll feel like you're in a it'll feel like it's you're in a tornado Now as far as workouts are concerned Be as consistent as possible with them and make sure you modify them based on your level of sleep and how you feel So that may mean that sometimes your workout is literally just sitting there and stretching Other times you may feel like you can get after it But you know, I like to always say this to people regardless of the situation Do you think you would be able to handle a new challenge? Better if you were healthy feeding yourself right and fit versus not eating right and not being fit Which one do you think well, which version of you do you think will be able to handle? New challenges and new situations better Obviously the fit and healthy version of you and I did this Man, I took this to heart, you know years ago when I had some very very close to me Get diagnosed with a terminal form of cancer and I knew you know, she was it was it was my mother-in-law and she Came over the house and we're sitting around the table and I knew something was wrong And then she told everybody she got diagnosed and She and everybody cried and it was this real difficult moment and she left and you know I was trying to console my my wife at the time and you know when she went to bed I remember I stayed up for a couple hours thinking about Okay, well I need to I need to be at my best to be able to help all these people and in order for me to be my best I have to maintain my health And so I prioritized Nutrition more than I'd ever prioritized it before and I prioritized my workouts I made sure that every single day I had an hour of exercise and it wasn't because I needed to Get fit or build muscle or doing that stuff. It was because I knew that it made me more capable to help All these people and now what did my workouts look like? Sometimes my worked out my workouts look like I put my headphones on and I'd go for a walk Sometimes it looked like I would you know foam roll and stretch and do light movement other times I would play you know death metal and lift real heavy But it was whatever I needed To you know make myself feel my best and so that's what how I would treat the workouts And that's the cool thing about exercise is that exercise is this amazing tool That can benefit almost anything that happens in your life almost any lifestyle change you have You can modify and mold your workout To benefit you regardless of what your situation is whether you're injured feeling healthy, you know new challenges, whatever I mean, that's pretty much it. Um, the the the second part of the question was piece of advice for a new father I got one go ahead. Go ahead. Justin. Yeah, I would just say anticipate needs don't react Based off of like what's coming at you. What do you mean? Like try to try to just think? Yeah, think ahead think ahead of like, um, you know, how The fuck does that mean it means that it means that like you actually think ahead like so if If like based off of patterns if if if your wife's like, you know, they're too long in the house Like I'm anticipating like scheduling something where I can take over she can get out like we're talking about like workouts We're talking about everything. It's it all has to be like thought ahead You can't just like sit there and and okay. Well, what do we do next? Like I got in a position where um, a lot of times it's like well, I gotta You just react you're constantly reacting to everything as it's happening to you So like once I started to try and like steer and and get ahead of things like you start like recognizing patterns and where I can Can put myself in place myself Whether like, you know, it's getting up to go take care of them because you'd hear a Russell or whatever like I'm getting up and I'm I'm being proactive about Uh contributing versus like oh god, you know, this is happening again And you know, you're just like so reacting. That's great advice. That's great advice The the one piece that I have of advice is is this as a father Your role is naturally tends to be naturally a little bit different than the than the mother especially when the mom Is breastfeeding so and I you know, I try to place myself in the position of the Of the mother in the sense that she has these two food Factories attached to her body, right? So she's making the milk So she's the one that's going to feed the baby Most of the time now that can feel almost unfair. I would say now I think there's also another side to it that I used to see which is Wow, you get to have a different experience and connection to the child that I don't ever get to experience So there's that end of it But there's also the other end of I'm the one that always has to feed the baby And I feel forced to do this just because I'm a woman and so here's my advice to you As a father because if that starts to if that seed starts to grow You're going to have a bad time. You're not going to have a good a good time with your wife And so what I recommend is this Take on a responsibility and make it yours that has to do with the baby. So maybe You take on the diapers. So you in I'm telling you doing something like this Uh, can you know if your wife is you know, a semi nice person Will will do wonders and literally tell her like look you got the boobs attached to you You're probably going to do most of the feeding I get that so here's what I'm going to do I'm going to change unless you know those weird like man boob. No, don't do that Stupid, uh, you know, or maybe you can do that. I would never do that But you know, uh, I'll change all the diapers. That's going to be my responsibility and actually do it and stuff like that makes the partnership feel like a partnership because Statistically speaking most of the role and responsibility Goes to the mom and I think a lot of moms Maybe want to do it But then it starts to become this martyr thing or it starts to become this loss of identity thing Which is another hurdle that you you don't want to you know have to get into so take on one responsibility Make it yours make it, you know declare it and in take control of it And then you'll feel like you're you're working together as a partner Adam Adam's not a father and he's not married So I don't have a lot to contribute to to that question except for you What I where I can connect I feel like is That even though it's completely different. I know every fucking dad is going to be oh, it's not like that Well, fuck you have you ever built a massive business before because I think The way I look at our company or any business that I built I love it like my child and it I sometimes I don't get sleep because of it. I get frustrated because of it. It consumes my life It starts to distract me from my relationships So there's a lot of parts where I can when I'm listening to you guys it reminds me of The the the things that I've had to put in place to where I still keep a healthy relationship Not only with myself But with my partnership reminds me similar to the relationship that I have With my our business right now similar skills You're right And and the the answer for me is this if if it's a priority to you if working out and staying in shape If doing the things like maybe spending time with your boys or doing things like if you hunt you play sports I don't know what what feeds your soul But if there's things in your life that have been consistently in your life that you that give you enjoyment and fulfillment And that are important to you Then you have to make that priority and you have to and it may be it may look like this And so I've had some friends that are very successful at this and you know I see them at the gym and first the the mom comes in and she's working out. Oh, yeah Where's your where's your husband now? Oh, he's at home with the baby right now He's going to get his workout next so she comes she gets her hour workout in Then she then she after she's done she goes home watch the baby that he gets to go And sure they're not working at the same time Sure, they're not two killing tubers with one stone But they're working with each other to work towards something that's very important in their life Or I've seen other of my friends that have this type of relationship where On the weekends sundays dad's day saturday's mom's day So, you know saturday mom can be selfish and go get her nails done do hair go shopping go hang out with her girlfriends And dad's taking charge of the the kid all day long that day And then sunday dad gets his his time to himself to to feed his soul the things that are happening Whether it be fishing whether it be hunting whether it be golfing whether it be playing video games What the fuck it is that you enjoy selfishly? I think where a lot of parents go wrong and so do people that get consumed with a business Is you forget about all the other things that are so important to you that create that balance and happiness in your life And so structuring which I think is just piggybacking off of what you guys said is having some sort of a structure behind that I think going into it Not setting that up is is setting yourself up for failure because it's inevitable The kid's going to be hard. It's inevitable. It's going to be the hardest thing You've probably ever dealt in your life Just like I feel like even building this business that we're in right now everything that I've done before I could say that we've done all these other things I've been successful before but this is a bigger monster than I've ever dealt and it's it's required me to Put practices in and do things that Katrina and I never had to do before So I imagine if the kid is anything like that or 10 times that which I'm sure some fathers would argue That I would think wow that's really going to require me to sit down have that conversation with my wife and my partner And say let's first talk about my selfish desires Then let's talk about your selfish desires And then let's talk about the things that we will have to do and need to do for this child And then let's agree that we don't lose sight of ourselves And you know, it's right you have to do that every almost every day You got to make sure you make that a priority because it gets away from you very quickly Yeah, you know and for for Katrina and I it's at least a once a week thing like that We've implemented now maybe as with a child it becomes even more important because there's even higher stress there But you know, we typically evaluate the week and things that you guys have heard me talk about the reading together You know, we go to sporting events a lot or we get time by ourselves with our friends I'm going up to go see my two best friends. I haven't seen them in a little bit over a month And so there's certain things that I have flexibility those guys I used to see every single week of my life and they were very important to me. That's like my family And so Katrina has recognized that I get irritable and I get frustrated and I become short in our relationship When I've been neglected of those things that are so important to me and it sucks because They're far away. I have all these these priorities So it's really easy to neglect it But then when I start to see it bleed over into my communication my relationship with my partner I recognize like wow how important it is that I get that day away to where I can do that I got to think that having a child is very very similar as far as the responsibility that you both have towards this But then you also have a responsibility To yourself and it you'll only be a good father and a good parent if you take care of yourself And I think you know, this is one of the benefits of you're ready. Yeah Watching no, I think uh This is why sometimes I think having kids when you're a little older is probably A good idea. Yeah, my brain would never even think like that 15 years ago, dude I had mine when I was young and it's just you're just you're fucking running around with your hair on fire Oh, yeah, my first was complete surprise. So, you know, that's why that's why I bring that advice up because it was like Everything was like, oh my god. It was like total reactionary the whole process second kid totally different. So Next question is from busy girl. Oh five We'd love to hear your thoughts and commentary on the Aspire assist bariatric procedure. Is that the is that the thing we talked about a long time ago? That sticks in your stomach and it's like a oh, we haven't talked about this in a long time I thought it died. Is it still alive? Oh, it's a it's I believe it's being prescribed So maybe Doug can look it up Yeah, we're just passing it through the fda. Yeah, we brought this up almost two years ago, right? If we're not mistaken If if this is what I think it is it's a tube That is connected directly to your stomach that comes outside of your body. Yeah, and here's how it works You're obese. So they hook you up with this thing. You got a tube sticking out of your stomach You eat something And then you go to the bathroom and you just you pump it out And you just let it out of your stomach. So you eat the food and then you basically Uh purge it out of this tube. You're not throwing it out another version of bulimia It's exactly bulimia, bro. Yes, just without the you vomiting yourself. It's like it's you know what it's the lazy person's bulimia Yeah You're so fucking lazy. You can't even throw up That's so funny You're so fucking lazy Right like all the bulimia all the bulimia people that are like watching this like you pussy You can't even fucking do it yourself. You gotta use a tool this this has to be one of the The most worst terrible worst ever I hate sometimes I hate saying this kind of stuff because maybe someone's listening who got it done and They're in this dire situation where if they don't lose a weight any weight That their health is super terrible in this and that but here's the thing I get I get that I get I get it. I get you may be in the situation where you feel like you have no hope I get where you think okay. I need to do this because if I don't lose any weight I'm gonna die of a heart attack. I understand that but we also need to be honest And if this is the state that you're in where you're using this device This is definitely Sure, I could see it might benefit you in that second because you're in an emergency situation But this is not a some fucked up psychology a solution and it yes It's this is gonna encourage some terrible. Oh, it's gonna make it worse. Yeah a map Yeah, I'll be the first to admit if I if I knew that I could eat unlimited fucking shit food all time And I could just purge it right out of my stomach like it completely feeds into that horrible way of thinking about food If you exactly if you already have a poor relationship food Which you obviously do if you have to reach out and do something like this I think it's only gonna make it worse. This is not gonna make that relationship a better relationship with food If anything it's going to exaggerate how could it possibly make it gross? How could it possibly make it better? You know when you're when you're sitting there and you're eating and you're thinking like well This doesn't matter at all because now i'm gonna go to the bathroom And i'm gonna open up this tube and dump it out And I mean think of can you click on the real results? Is there like actually pictures of people? I'm sending a video to dug right now. You're seeing a video I have a youtube. I mean I remember when we watched all this was like two years ago when we brought it up I mean the the website looks awesome. I just I feel like I want to try it easy solutions I've just never found. Oh, look. Watch the videos to make your story work Well, they actually have before and afters look at that people losing lots of weight with it and God, you know her leaking. You know, you know gross Oh You imagine Yeah, my hole is leaking. Yeah, and it's you know the thing about this too is You have I I would imagine that the risk of infection has got to be relatively high right because you've got this open tube to your stomach That connects right to it. Although the stomach is pretty resilient I would think they would that part would be if it got FDA approved, which it says it is whatever the fuck that means for this You know, I think that um physically they probably covered their bases. Yeah, I think that part they're covered I think what they're not addressing. Wow. Look at this So this is a lady on the website not going to say her name. Although she's already put herself out there She's 53 59. She weighed 312 pounds Then she got the aspire assist tube the uh the bulimic tube or whatever Now her weight is 175 and here's the thing You're still I mean 175. That's not you're still good. She still probably has a good 30 40 pounds Which makes me realize like even with something like this. She's managed to be I have a high bmi You know, uh, even with the tube like this So what does that tell you about what's probably happening with her eating habits adapting? I would I would what I would like to see is somebody who gets this or people who get this device And have people follow them around And watch what happens to their eating and I'm sure the eating habits weren't great to begin with But they got to get worse afterwards. You know, I'm saying we're now worse first They would I'm wondering what kind of nutrient deficiencies is stuff that these people might Right might you know suffer from because they're dumping out the food that they've ate I know that uh, I did read about this a while ago and when you do get this procedure You have to really liquefy your food and chew it up really well. Otherwise you could get a clog in the tube Oh god, it's just so gross, dude. Yeah It is just be your tube. It's so gross to me. If you watch how they have to do it Could you imagine having to go to the bathroom all the time and pump out your stomach? No, I'll show you I just so you dug maybe you can you can post it Look at this gotta be right away, too Like after you eat you're just like running to the bathroom Look at these this couple wasn't that bad. They weren't like super obese. Yeah, he looked like he needed to lose about 40 pounds He literally they could have just started walking. He looks worse to me. I'm right. He looks worse to me It doesn't it doesn't this is terrible. This is this is frustrating. This is very Uh, reflective of the way that we handle health problems in western societies So does it hijack oh goes right into the no goes right to the stomach. Oh my god, and it really it really demonstrates what we do when we have a health problem is we just try to Deal with the symptom and the symptom the symptom that we're dealing with is obesity obesity is a symptom of bad eating habits and a bad relationship to food so I wonder if they're taught like, you know, drain it, you know, you only drain it like uh, when you you ate something Or you went overboard. Oh so crazy, dude Just watch the process of what all has to takes place For this to to happen, man. It just that's that should be enough to we should put in the show notes, dude We should put in the show notes Put this in the show notes Yeah, because like if they want to be real about this They got to show somebody actually doing this and like the goo and stuff that comes out of their stomach Stop it, bro. Well, that's the thing though. Like that's what they have to deal with What are they they just shot what do they shoot back into you have to squirt water back through it probably to clean out the tube so that You know that that partially digested food doesn't stay in the tube and And collect, you know bacteria or whatever right inside. Yeah, that turns you on you know, it's you want to know It's funny. I wonder how much money they're making I'm sure they're killing it. You know, I'm saying there's a lot of fat people I mean the guy that invented this is like laughing right now to the bank because and he comes in a little fanny pack Yep, wow and fanny pack. Maybe that's why fanny packs are in style again Maybe some of them are a spice here. Here's the here's the thing. You're on to them I have my own issues with the FDA right, you know, they they and here's the thing. It's your body Whatever you want to do with it. You should be able to do with it So the fact that the FDA approved it or whatever like that part I don't care about But what I do care about is just I don't even is it highlights. What is the FDA approve of that? Like what is it? What does it even matter? Here's here's right like I said, it's safe. It's your body. It's like a Michelin five star I don't understand. It's your body. You should be able to do whatever you want with it But here's the part that pisses me off with the FDA is that they approve shit like this And then you have total non-toxic things like cannabis Which the FDA has been dragging their heels To approve or whatever for people, but they'll approve shit like this the FDA is a fucking It's a it's a corrupt Cartel that's what they are and they partner with these pharmaceutical companies and that's right and they they pass shit like this And meanwhile fucking you can't buy raw milk at the grocery store because it's too dangerous It's too dangerous for you to go buy milk that hasn't been pasteurized even though it comes from healthy cows and a lot of stuff It's insane to me. It's crazy. But yeah, this is just it's creating a worse relationship with food With people I would even I would even prefer just straight up gastric bypass surgery over this, which I still think is Yeah, you know, that's still one of those. Oh, I agree for sure Like, you know that that at least you you get it done It happens and then you still are supposed to practice like good eating habits And I'm sure you're supposed to practice good eating habits here But if you're hijacking my stomach like that, I mean I'm I'm not stupid I know what I'm doing or is and yeah Sucking it to me I look at that and go like fuck Yeah, that means I can still get away with eating some of the shit that I want to eat So again, you know, I feel for people who go this far because there's there's they're in a very bad situation Both psychologically right and physically, but these are things you need to address You need to address the psychology of it Think they're ignoring it exactly and think about how crazy this is like even though today There's far less people starving in the world Can you look google search and see how many people potentially are actually even using this like think about this for a second We have so much food And so much access to food that people literally chew it up to throw it away. They just want to taste it They just want to taste it and then they fucking throw it away. So they're not even using it and there are literally People who have no food. There are people an asshole move. It's so crazy to me to think about that How crazy is that like I don't care like all I want to do is I want to taste it I don't like it's bad. It's it's insane to me Our next question is from norbulous dh Is it true you get bigger before getting smaller? I read somewhere that as you start to weight train Your body will start to develop muscle and the fat will sit on top and then after this happens The fat starts to come off. Is this true? This happens sometimes. Yeah. No, there's there's a lot of truth to that it's uh, in fact I remember when I would first like start telling a client that come to me to say Oh, you have to warn them. Yeah, right. They're going to lose they want to lose 50 pounds for me Like so, you know after they sign up for training for me nothing nothing's tougher than to say, okay I know that you hired me to help you lose 50 pounds But actually the goal this month we probably are going to put on a couple pounds So you cool with that and they look at you like you're fucking crazy But this is goes back to when I first started doing this where I would Add to people's diet instead of taking away. I started to have way more success And as long as you can communicate that to them to get them to understand that listen You haven't been weight training whatsoever, right? And you haven't been following a nutritional plan So your body's probably lacking the nutrients that it wants and needs And then in addition to that you're not lifting weights And so you're you're not you're not building as as much muscle as you potentially could have on your frame And so we're going to start doing that and what I don't want to do right out the gates Is restrict from you right now? Let's feed it because your body is going to want to build muscle Especially the very beginning we talk about this all the time when you're a newbie into weightlifting It's extremely responsive and it will build muscle faster than an advanced person who's been lifting for a really long time So I want to take advantage of that. I want to feed that. I want to encourage Muscle being built on your body because I know in turn that's only going to help me with your weight loss goal Down the road because now that you have added you let's say at the end of the month You know, I have you eating good, but I have you eating more calories than you're used to Your goal was to lose 50 pounds. I've got you weight training three four times a week A month goes by and you've added five pounds to the scale I'm actually really happy Especially if I've been able to introduce more food and more calories, especially if they're stronger in their workout. Yeah Yeah, so this is uh I think a mistake that people make when they first go if you've never weight trained before And you show up to the gym and your goal is to lose 50 hundred pounds Whatever the number is and right away. You're already tracking the loss. I think it's a terrible strategy Yep, I agree a hundred percent. I this was a conversation. I always had with my clients and the way I would explain it to them as I'd say look we have fat burning and calorie burning machinery on your body and Your whole body burns calories But the the the part of your body that we can manipulate and that will burn the most so that we can manipulate to burn the most Is your muscle so we can do things to your body So that it will burn more calories And that means you're going to gain a little bit of muscle When you gain a little bit of muscle what i've done is they've given you a bigger engine And now you're going to burn more calories and that's going to make The fat loss much easier and faster later on you're going to look different because you're going to be sculpted You're going to have more of a toned, you know tight sculpted type of physique and It's going to make the weight loss more permanent because if you approach Weight loss right out the gates with this Burn the fuck out of yourself mentality and restrict calories mentality You'll end up like a lot of those biggest loser contestants like you watch the biggest loser These trainers take these people restrict their calories and beat them to crap And then they they leave the show and the resting metabolic rate is like nothing You know now you've got someone who went from 350 pounds down to 150 pounds but now if they eat anything over 900 calories They gain weight and they're also working out on top of it. You tell me that that is that a recipe for long-term success Like unless you're a fanatic, right? You got to maintain that like rigorous crazy intensity on top of restricting your calories basically to nothing And like the the extreme too of this is like, you know, look at look at wrestling or weight cuts You know you have to do for um, you know like in a quick period of time Like I could just throw a sweatsuit on you and you could just go in a sauna and like let's lose weight You know, let's lose weight. Let's sweat it out and like it on on some level a lot of times people come into Um, you know fitness and and they hire a trainer thinking that like well I want to lose weight right away right out of the gates You know and there's a lot of like these these shitty Tricks that uh, you know a bad trainer will put somebody through just to get them to sweat and to get them to To lower that number on their Scale and there's a whole process to this is it's it's building something it's building an engine like you said It's it's building this machine that then now we're actually like getting into fat as a fuel source And you can't even do that unless all the right mechanisms are in place. Yeah, you uh, here's the other thing too This used to happen quite often is I would I would tell clients that we're not going to weigh you For a little while, but I will do body fat tests with calipers And what we would find is Sometimes they would weigh themselves without you know without me knowing and they'd come tell me and they'd gain a couple pounds And they freak out and then I test their body fat and they would actually a percent leaner And a lot of times this happens you gain a little bit of muscle You get your body fat ends up dropping a little bit as a result naturally But give yourself a second the way I look at it is it is like this when you look at your routine When you're first starting off and your your goal is weight loss I look at it like this like okay for the first month. We're focusing on uh creating good recruitment patterns Uh and getting and correcting muscle imbalances. So that's the first month the second month. I'm focusing on Building strength and speeding up my metabolism and then when the third month rolls around now We're starting to really see some fat come off the body and when you approach it that way with a little bit of a All right, I'm gonna I got a month of correctional exercise And I got another month of like focusing on getting stronger and in really what you have to do is you have to change The way you measure success. So I would tell clients okay for the first month Don't worry about weight. Don't worry about your size But let's look at your movement and then I'll point things out like oh, wow Last time we did this exercise you couldn't reach straight up above your head because you had some shoulder problems Today you can or last time we did a squat Your knees started caving in once we got down to this level Now today we can get down much lower and people like that they like to see progress I just had to point it out In different ways and then the next month they'd be like, whoa You know your your deadlift was 100 pounds and and by the end of this week now We're at 120 pounds you gained 20 pounds in your on your deadlift and I would point out progress like that And then I'd tell them what's happening. You're moving better This strength going up is telling me that your metabolism is probably Getting faster. It's probably burning hotter, which is going to be great because next month After we've built some good strength on you next month We're going to start looking at things on and adjusting things for Actual weight loss and fat loss and it'll happen a lot a lot better I think it's so crazy how we expect things to happen so quick like like the the building muscle process or losing body fat process Like we we want it to be so quick And we use the example of it being like a marathon But when you really think about it, it's even slower than it's way slower than a marathon And if you ever saw somebody come out if you were like an experienced marathon runner, you know Justin's coming against race me and I've been doing this for a long time He's like, hey, I'm going to join this marathon with you and he takes off sprinting around the gates I'm laughing inside. I'm going like dude. There's no way. There's no way. He's going to keep up that pace He'll he'll eventually get passed by all on mile three. Right exactly and you and it's it's so obvious, right? But we don't think that same way when you see people approaching the gym Like but yet the process is even slower for that So why wouldn't your process going into that be as slow or even slower? So to me, it's like it's so obvious But yet we we've fed into this like, you know, oh two weeks get this or the fat biggest loser example Here's what sucks If I was a trainer competing with if I if I got a hundred pound client The same time that all the biggest loser trainers got a hundred pound clients and we were competing in that You know, what is it a 12 week window? I don't remember how long It's a very short window. I would lose 100 I would lose, you know, they would they would definitely Get their client by starving them to death and beating their bodies for fucking 12 weeks like no, shit You're gonna definitely get more weight off Which I think we attack the people that want to lose this way are so attached to that that they're not even thinking of You know, even more forward, which is, you know, well, am I going to be able to keep that off? Am I going to be able to maintain that lifestyle? No one thinks like that And so yeah, you know, you might get there first with your client before I will but You know, and it might take me four or five times as long But the cool part is once I finally get that client there that person could has a way better chance And even then they're not it's not a hundred percent sure that they're going to be able to keep it off But the success rate is I remember free figuring this out like halfway through my fitness career And I went from I always had clients that I always had a long like clients always stayed with me longer than the average And that's because I was a good trainer and you know, I was professional and personable and all that stuff But man, when I started to piece this together, this is when I started having clients that would stay with me for years Years and it would get to the point where I'd only train them once every other week because I'd been training them for so long But these people were Consistent whereas before They're you know, my charisma my energy my excitement and I might you know, how happy I am all that stuff That would only last so long and after about a year I would notice people would start to fall off once I started to piece together that if you follow this This this this formula get people's metabolism just to to to kick up Get them to make these changes that will last more permanent Man, I'd have clients that would stay with me for 10 12 years Even now I haven't trained clients for a couple of years I Will talk to some of these people I trained up until two years ago And they're still consistent still working out None of them were like hardcore fitness fanatics when they first met me But we just did it the right way and it just it just absolutely worked for them And that's that's the I had a you know years ago. I had this workout partner who was a Just a fitness and workout fanatic and what I mean by that is she measured Her food intake and her activity level all the time She was fanatical about it and she literally would run something like 20 miles a week So every week about 20 miles she would run because she was a she loved just moving She would do pilates classes yoga classes bootcamp classes And then on top of that she would work out with me Or me and her would lift weights together about four days a week I don't know how she her body was able to put up with this She had incredible obviously incredible genetics be able to handle all this She would consume about 1600 calories a day which considering all that activity That's not much at all and she would notice that if she went over 1600 calories A pound would come on her like right away and she used to tell me like man. I have The worst genetics like I just get I'm just I'm destined to be fat like anything I eat over six Anytime I eat over 1600 calories I gain weight and I used to tell her You're doing way too much working out You're eating too little if you just focused on the stuff that we do together where we lift weights Let your body build a little bit of muscle and speed up your metabolism I used to tell her like watch what will happen watch what will happen We used to get in these conversations like she would have a step tracker and she'd show me Oh 20,000 steps a day 25,000 steps a day and I used to tell her like you're eating 1600 calories Your metabolism is adapted in the wrong direction like you're going to make this A nightmare for yourself and so little by little I'm I can be pretty persistent in convincing Over the course of because I worked out with her Pretty regularly for about two years over the course of the first year I slowly got her to back off to the point where she stopped running marathons And then she stopped running and then she stopped taking all these extra classes And all she was doing was lifting weights and doing yoga and that's all she was doing By the end of that first year of her doing this and moving into the second year She got to the point where she was able to consume 2400 calories. That is 800 more calories a day So almost a thousand calories a day more every single day way less activity She would maintain a body fat percentage of 15 or 16 percent And she would have these weekends where she would go On these trips with her, you know, her husband or whatever and she'd eat like cake and enjoy yourself chocolate She was a big chocolate fanatic and she'd come back and she'd be like, oh, let's see what happened And she wouldn't gain a single pound her metabolism completely switched and I remember we had this conversation She was like you used to tell me this and I didn't I didn't believe you I thought that that you were just bullshitting me. She's like, but it's a trip now She's like my body just burns everything off and all you all she did was she just changed the way she She did things changes so that her body adapted in a way that was Beneficial for her lifestyle and that's what you need to do when you when you start working out Otherwise, you're going to be in this yo-yo situation where yeah, you'll lose some weight But I you're going to gain it back statistically speaking the odds are you're going to gain it back Next question is from jmac 384 would you guys ever go to burning man? You know, it's funny. Is this something that sal has been wanting for some time since we started man You know, he's been rooting for this for a while. He already bought his tutu You know, the crazy thing is Of the four of us in this room right now if people were to guess who's been the burning man The last person people would guess is duck. Yeah, he's the only one that's been the burning man not once He's the most adventurous out of the group twice, right doug Yeah, two times you've been there too. What is it like? How long ago was it that you went 2003 and 2005? So it's been quite a long time. What's it? What's it like? Yeah, okay? This is how I describe burning man Take mad max with cirque du soleil Plus dr. Seuss And then you have burning man Throw in some drugs and there's burning man. Well, I think that's yeah, I think everybody just named his Yeah, pretty sure dr. Seuss was high isn't it house in wonderland. Yeah, there you go You were saying the prep to go to burning man is the crazy part Well, first off, you have to secure the tickets and now it's getting kind of crazy. I think now back then I think there were only 30 000 people out there or 35 000 when I was there But I think it's doubled at least Since that time. So I think it's hitting over a hundred. Is it I think so I think I can't remember the last one I heard it's crazy. So my guess is a different place now than it was when I went there Is it super dusty like everybody says and dirty? Yeah, it's really dusty dirty And then they have these big storms that sometimes come through and you have to Batten down the hatches and put on your masks and your goggles. I think I'm the least excited to do that out of all of us I would rather go to like Coachella Yeah, like I would rather go to like a music festival and party and hang out there Then then yeah, you know music burning man's a little driving it would be great Well, what's the premise behind burning man? I know it's like this sort of like a commune thing Right like initially like people would all go there to be away from like you have to trade things interact with people Honestly, I think for a lot of people it's a way to get outside of your ordinary environment And experience a different way of of life so because people for example here in the silicon valley We're so what wired up and dialed in and go go go all the time And then you go out there and it's kind of freeing you can be know whoever you want to be And not have all these social constraints that are keeping you from Really experiencing maybe some of these aspects of your life that you're suppressing I feel like it's a big like just i'm gonna express whatever I want out here I think it's extremely judgment. I think it's extremely transformative for some people. I really do I think it's just like ayahuasca and all this other whoo whoo shit that everybody loves to talk about right now I think it can be very And but I also think if you're somebody who Recognized that you potentially are that person who's plugged in all the time and you do things like Go take a trip for I mean for most of my life We used to do this trip that I miss big time so I could see doing something like burning man Although I would have no desire to go there or that much is we go up to trinity lake And it's up above mount shasta and just there's no cell phone reception up there You're up in the redwoods. You have just the lake your camp and we're there for 10 days And you know, I'm I'm showering in some like, you know Area that everybody's showering at the bathroom over there and it's like you're living in a card's next to the fire Yeah, exactly all we're doing is playing cards. We're listening to music out. We're on the we're floating on the boat We're fishing we're wakeboarding. We're doing all these things. We're interacting with each and we're there with like It turned into a huge group of like 50 to 60 people that were family and friends and relatives that would all come to this area And it was such a it was a such an important thing for me that I cherish more now as an adult than I did as a kid growing up But I think if you do things like that in your life on a pretty regular basis or make it a priority Once a year to do so that I think it really helps keep you grounded and connected or whatever fucking wooboo word you want to Use but I think that with burning man It's so transformative for some of these guys that have never or girls that have never experienced this like Actually being out in nowhere, you know, it's like holy crap. This is so weird so different The longer we go without going the less I want to go because it feels like everybody's going I don't want to do what everybody else is doing bro. It's not cool anymore to me bro It's just what's it's what's it's turned into this like It's like what the the sort of when I was in the midwest, right? So I grew up in Santa Cruz and I was around a lot of like radical hippie type characters and people that like express themselves like You know to the nth degree and then I'm out in Chicago and now I see Um, like in the suburbs I see like kids like these teenage kids, you know Like wearing the ponchos and like trying to be all like dreadlocked out and it's like Like no, oh, you know, I would rather do that Like no, like you're not like it's not cool like what you're like They're just posing as like, you know, they're trying to be that and it's just so like I'd rather take I'd rather take, you know, the four of us invite five to ten of our closest friends family We're with that and we were to head up into our own place that we go to that's out in nature You know that where we could shower and be away from dust and turnt like that But still out in the middle of nowhere kind of right and There we can do all the lsd and fucking all the shrooms that we want to And I'm with all the people that I love and hang out with and enjoy that Maybe I don't get a chance to see all the time like that I would wait I would way rather do that than go out to somewhere in the middle of the desert where it's dusty and You know, I'm sure there's you know, we haven't been there. So I'm sure there's some sure it's an interesting experience Here's the thing like Here's how I think mine pump Would go really I don't think there's any other way we would go is if somebody else Invited us and and set it up. I did an RV. Yeah, like if somebody said to us like hey We're doing we're bringing this group of people And we want mine pump to come and we're gonna take care of all this stuff and it's gonna be set up Then we'll talk about it later. Yeah, then I feel like yeah, then I feel like we would do it Otherwise if it was on us the plan and I don't I don't think it's gonna happen Doug, I have a question for you. What did you wear? Did you dress crazy? Did you express yourself? You know, I didn't do it like some people. I I did have you know My goggles and my my hat and things. Do you have pictures from burning man? There might be some around somewhere. I'll have to see if I can find those. Did you go all steampunk? Nah, not full on steampunk or anything like that. I'm I was probably a little bit You know normal conservative. Yeah I tend to be that way in life. I guess besides the fact that you were walking around no pants on Yeah, no that's just a minor detail just the shirt Keep everything out. I mean, I I think it would be cool to go just to check it out But it's like I said if there's a group that invites us and has all that shit set up Yeah, that's the only way I could see us all being like, all right, let's do this. Let's make this otherwise I don't see us planning because it takes a lot from what I've heard. We're supposed to make something too Doug aren't we supposed to like you don't have to It's a barter economy there So people often bring things to trade or just give away So people are like super cool, but it could be anything, right? It could be anything So south we could have sal giving out sexual favors in turn for us to get you could have him water He'll be our crawling man. For example, there was one Who the leash Yeah, there's one camp it was close to our camp where they all they did was wash hair And they weren't expecting anything from it. They just come on by get your hair washed Which is kind of nice when you're all covered in dust. We'll just answer fitness questions. There you go Give us food and we'll answer your questions. We're gonna do our trigger sessions sessions super boring, right? 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