 Good morning. We are going to give everybody another minute or two to join us today. So hang tight and in about 9 o 2 a.m. We will get our ASU Industries of Excellence Advanced Manufacturing panel started. Those of you that have just joined we are giving everybody about another minute to get situated and we will get our panel started right around 9 o 2 this morning and welcome. We're going to get started this morning. Good morning. My name is Eric Bopp. I am in the ASU Office of Economic Development. We are pleased to present today our ASU Industry of Excellence panel on advanced manufacturing having just visited California and following some of the snowstorms on the east coast. It is great to be in Arizona this morning and we are excited to have some of our subject matter experts speak to you about all of the wonderful things ASU is doing from a manufacturing development standpoint. Please note our attendees you will be muted and your video is off so if you're raising your hand or waving your arms we won't necessarily be able to see you but please use the Q&A feature to add any questions you have and at the end of today's presentation we will hopefully be able to address any questions that come up. So with that said a quick overview of ASU and where we are today 2022 it's an exciting time we continue to move forward as a university recognizing that education is an essential industry and an essential business throughout the pandemic and we are excited that we continue to grow and serve the people of Arizona. We currently have about 400 undergraduate degree programs over 135,000 students enrolled 31,000 plus degrees awarded in 2020. Our research expenditures were up to 673 million number one public university by international students and last but not least 26,999 students enrolled in engineering which clearly makes us one of the largest engineering schools in the US and as we talk about manufacturing today our engineering expertise and our engineering experts are critical to the advancement of the economy here in Arizona and so we are pleased to share with you more information about some of the exciting things taking place here at ASU. We are going to have three panelists speak to you today each for about 15 minutes which will leave us a little bit of time at the end for questions and answers. Our first panelist that will speak is Dr. Drew Boddy he's an associate professor in our Ira Fulton schools of engineering at our polytechnic school. Our second speaker will be Lauren Major who spearheads the employer relations for the Ira Fulton schools of engineering career center as you can imagine she is a busy individual with a lot of companies that are interested in tapping into the excellent students that graduate from ASU and last but certainly not least is Tim Beattie business development director for the Ira Fulton schools of engineering he's an engagement catalyst which basically means he speaks industry speak coming from Honeywell he is a great colleague and great for companies to interact with and get engaged with ASU so with that said I will mute my mic and turn things over to Dr. Boddy. Thank you Eric and thank you everyone for taking the time to be here today and hear about some of the exciting things going on. I want to firstly you know for those of you all that you may have seen a slide like this before but this has been updated and I really today in my 15 minutes I want to share with you all two initiatives that we have undertaken you know the seeds were planted as these things are a couple of years back but this is the year when they are both you know gathering momentum so the first of these is the launch of a new school so if you look across the middle here what you're seeing are what we used to have six traditional sort of schools you know computing on the left hand side all the way to the biological health systems in the blue and we have a global school at the bottom which is you know located in London and you know has got folks from different universities participating but I want to draw your attention to that central line and you know if if you looked for where was the home of manufacturing at ASU you know within the Fulton schools of engineering it was actually dispersed in many different programs and the center of gravity was sort of in the second column there the polytechnic school starting last fall so just about four or five months ago we launched a seventh school that's on the extreme right hand side and they're calling that school the school of manufacturing systems and networks or MSN for short and that's my that's my first big exciting you know news that I wanted to share for those of you all that may not know that we have done this and this is in recognition of the fact that we want to have a school that is really focused on the future of manufacturing and and what that means and what focus areas we are looking at I'll talk about that a little later but I just wanted to let y'all know that we now have a brand new school I have amongst many other faculty have moved from the polytechnic school into that new school where the focusing focuses really around advanced manufacturing we do have a few challenges ahead of us and one of the challenges is what's represented in those colors across the top bar that represents the student body size in proportion to the number of students we have you know in scale with the size of the rectangle that you see and the new school is that small sliver in the bottom right corner so as we grow this school we look we're looking to among other things increase enrollment and you know bring in students that are motivated to work on what everybody's calling the future of work industry 4.0 5.0 and what lies beyond so that was my first big sort of announcement on the next slide I want to get into another thing that's going on in the valley you may have heard about an initiative that ASU and specifically the Fulton schools of engineering are pushing for which is to develop STCs what what they're calling STCs but they're really science and technology centers and bring in more investment but also more expertise you know higher additional faculty in these areas in these five areas and today what I'm going to talk a little bit about is one of the two STCs that have actually launched the two STCs that have launched are on the bottom one is on energy and materials the other one that I'm going to talk about today is on advanced manufacturing so we have two things happening here that dovetail nicely into each other one is the launch of the new school of manufacturing systems and networks and the other is a science and technology center focused on advanced manufacturing now you may ask you know what what what do we mean by advanced manufacturing so many definitions of that term and and so on the next slide we have essentially got a vision for what we want advanced manufacturing STC to be about and then I'll talk about what specific technical areas we intend to focus on so why launch this science and technology center we essentially our vision is that ASU and this STC and you know faculty students etc at ASU are positioned as a crucial partner in advancing manufacturing innovation and job growth in Arizona so the STC more than say many of our traditional endeavors as an academic you know trying to get federal funds etc which is a key goal of the STC as well to seed those kinds of opportunities here we really want to look at the STC in terms of you know can we spin off new companies from faculty and student entrepreneurship can we bring in industry to define requirements and do more work with industry than we are today and Tim will talk about some of the things we are doing today what does the next level look like and that's what the STC is chartered at some key elements that we are looking to kick off and and this will evolve as the STC grows we have a five-year horizon you know where we are planning for and then the STC becomes sort of a you know self sustaining endeavor but the key elements are to have a consortium where we meet with industry partners regularly to define requirements and these are you know a little more narrow than say an advisory board this is very specific to technical areas and gaps in in workforce and curriculum development within the realm of advanced manufacturing it's very focused on that secondly is we want to continue to grow state-of-the-art manufacturing characterization testing computational facilities you might ask what's new you be always we're installing new SEMs new mechanical testing equipment what's new is that our selection of this equipment is going to be much more informed from industry needs as we look into the future for example you know high throughput testing we all can do mechanical testing but can we do it faster and then integrate that with data analytics for example third one is matching grants for industry funded projects this is something we're looking to start where especially with this is going to be applicable to industries at all scales but if a faculty member and an industry partner and and someone in an industry get together and say you want to work on this together we're going to make available matching grants to support that and maybe you know seed future funding or future efforts support for faculty and student entrepreneurship i have an idea for a new material you know can i get funding to have one of my postdocs for example or my psc students you know work on that and and spin off a company from that innovation and finally student and employee training so this would be both can be can be advanced our existing curriculum but also can we start to reach out in new innovative ways and provide training to the incumbent workforce so these are the elements of our sdc um you know we're looking to roll out more information on this in the in the weeks to come uh but this is what the sdc is going to look like if you go to the next slide i'll talk about the technical areas so you know a lot of us got together we got feedback from industry advisory boards we're also you know measuring the zeitgeist of what's happening in advanced manufacturing and we came up with these three r&d thrusts the first one and the one that i do most of my work in is let's say more traditional manufacturing in the sense of it being about the integration of a material and a process and how you make those two work so this is still foundational in the sense that without that you can't layer on the other two elements which are robotics and automation and data analytics cyber cybersecurity primarily and artificial intelligence ai so these are the three thrusts there's definitely a lot of overlap there are faculty outside the school of um msn that i talked about that are going to be involved with this and are involved with this cyber security for example a lot of that a center of gravity is in the school of computing um so the idea is not that the sdc is belongs to a particular school but that it cuts across all schools but that we also at the same time have some focus along certain areas that we want to you know build some momentum on at asu the three types of value that i alluded to on the previous slide our research entrepreneurship and workforce development so i have three quick examples of what i would like to show in in about four minutes or so so on the next slide i want to show an example of each one of these and i've tried to pick examples for my colleagues at asu that have you know have done this work in collaboration with an industry this is one example a professor song with steven lauder who's the ceo and founder of mcnano and what they are working on together is a project to among other things develop new materials so for example on the left hand side we're looking at new resins for stereolithography which is a 3d printing or a narrative manufacturing process but today's sla or stereolithography resins don't have the best properties so can we reinforce those by introduction of composites so you know these could be nano materials for example so that is one effort they're working on another effort is we we've all heard about bio fabrication you know the manufacturing of tissue well it turns out in addition to the cells which is of course important there's also a role for polymer chemistry there you might create a scaffold for example that you seed your cells on and that scaffold is made out of some biodegradable polymer that dissolves over time as the body you know replaces the need for that support so that is another focus area for them and and these are two projects they have started together the second one along with Mayo Clinic this is just one example of the kinds of things we want to do and are looking at within the process science and engineering domain on the next slide I have three examples of robotics now robotics at ASU has always been a fairly big endeavor with you know upwards of 40 faculty members in robotics across multiple schools doing that and what we want the STC to focus on is really ask ourselves but what's the role of robotics and automation in the context of manufacturing and here are three examples of efforts led by Dr. Zhang, Dr. Amor and Dr. Ju and on the left hand side you're seeing precision automation in the semiconductor industry in the middle you're seeing human robot collaboration and you know human teaching robots by doing demonstrations for example and on the right hand side you're seeing real-time analytics smart and connected factories and how can we leverage all that data that comes out of the factory you know traditional sort of industry 4.0 ideas around that so those were examples in the robotics and automation realm and on my last slide I have one example from a colleague who's who just joined our school this fall he's one of three new faculty members that we've hired in the realm of data analytics and machine learning with a focus on manufacturing so this is Andy Wang and he sits right across my hallway and what Andy does is he you know what I've come to learn is that you can do this at many levels you know when you look at the problem of data analytics AI and machine learning and how you apply it to manufacturing there is the one level where you are applying existing algorithms to try and understand you know the kind of data that you are getting so this is an example on the right hand side from a rolling mill that Andy worked on with the company before he came to ASU and the idea here is that you have a bunch of characteristics as you're rolling these tubes into the right size etc and can you do data fusion along with all the environmental sensing and the raw material data that you have to you know guide optimization of this process to minimize defects for example another thing that Andy is working on is the development of the algorithms themselves so that is also an exciting area for us which is more code intensive and gets into developing algorithms that improve on existing black box algorithms and then finally we have a couple of professors that I don't not showing here who are using machine learning to help folks like me develop better processes from the get go can I look at thermal data when I'm doing laser metal 3d printing for example and use that with a new material that proves very challenging to fabricate can I now use thermal data to get to an an optimized process much faster maybe with much less trial and error than I would have otherwise so these are sort of different ideas and with that I will stop and I will hand it over to Lauren to continue well hello and thanks Dhruv I really appreciate that sorry I'm off camera today guys but technology is not my friend I'm working from home but as Eric mentioned I am Lauren major and I work in employer relations for the Fulton schools career center today I wanted to talk a little bit about just a brief overview of our career center mentioned some best recruitment practices and then also some upcoming opportunities with Fulton our Fulton schools career center is decentralized so we cater to only Fulton engineering students and alumni that opt in to use our services our founding director Robin Hammond divided us in two parts smartly so the first is career development where students can meet with career advisors or career peer coaches to work on their resumes mock interviews or if they need any sort of professional career advice they can do this one-on-one in person or they can set up virtual appointments and the career development side also hosts larger workshops more educational events for more than one person at a time and gives them different ways to connect students with industry one example would be a professional speaker series that they host every semester and their goal in career development is to have students internship ready by four semesters now the second part of the house is where I sit and that's in employer relations and our number one goal there is to connect employers with our talented students we do this through various ways one of them is organized recruitment events like our very large career fairs we will host industry specific tech talks or invite companies to come in and host an industry day for themselves these events are offered virtually and in person for students I think most importantly we offer the free recruitment platform called handshake which companies can apply for an account and again it's totally free once they there's a little bit of vetting but once they get an account they are welcome to post positions for 24 seven they can request a room or a virtual event space and then also invite students to interview through the system if they like students are usually very aware of handshake when they come in we we talk to them as much as we can about it so it's the first place they go when they're looking for career opportunities in addition employer relation offers consultations to employers if they ask we can sit down with them and explain some best practices and best practices and recruiting the Fulton but I think probably the biggest benefit is if an employer has a position or event that they want to share to the students then they can connect with us and we can push their messaging to more targeted areas for them like through student organizations newsletters social media and the different contacts we have in various departments and this is a definitely a more strategic way to go and it helps boost applications from the right students on the next slide I wanted to talk a little bit about our students and you just heard from Eric that ASU is very large we have 27 000 students in engineering alone across two campuses and online and as ASU does as a university they focus on whom they include and not exclude from educational opportunities so this allows us to widen the tent so to speak but with quantity also comes quality about a third of Barrett's honors college students are also Ira A. Fulton schools of engineering students and the larger population helps us expand our diverse student numbers for example we're looking at here we have right around 6100 6200 female students and that could actually be the size of a smaller college somewhere else next slide okay this one's important and I love to share this it's kind of a case study of best recruitment practices because recruitment is always a challenge either getting your message to the right students or having to deal with competition for talent all of these steps I think are very helpful but it's been my experience that are three that help the most and that comes down to consistency educational partnership and starting early engagement through a pipeline for consistencies companies can do everything right they will get good results by being on campus spending more engagement with students having more visibility but what happens is if there's turnover and they miss a couple of semesters because they don't have a recruiter or they're rehiring again then they kind of lose that footing that they built up and this is because word of mouth is really the best promotion there is among students even larger companies with recognizable names can face recruitment issues when they've been out of the cycle too long so consistency is really important when a company shows up every semester regularly post positions and attends events students notice their ongoing presence and it definitely makes a difference the next area is educational partnership we find that companies with boots on the ground engagement have better recruitment outcomes hands down and this can be done through mentoring sponsoring capstones or e-projects that I think Tim is going to talk about a little bit more later also having even a co-location for research labs things like that most companies form deeper relationships by working directly with student orgs so that is the main way they go about it and Fulton schools has over 60 student organizations and they can be based either depending on whether they're service oriented or diversity or a particular major and one of the groups or student organizations that I think you would have an interest in would be the Society of Manufacturing Engineers or SME for short and they have a great advisor his he's a faculty member Jerry Gens who's also a great partner with the Fulton schools career center so if we know of an employer opportunity that goes directly to manufacturing will will ask Jerry and he's usually great about sharing it with his students members another thing I like about SME is they have kind of an organized student relationship I've already been contacted by them this semester they've reached out to me and they're interested in in working with industry on either small projects or finding guest speakers for their meetings and then another thing that I would like to point out is if you're looking for diversity and recruitment of diversity is like in your top three goals which it has been with every company that I've worked with lately student organizations are a great way a great pathway to that and then the last area I wanted to mention was early pipeline and which really means just playing the long game in recruitment because competition is getting tight out there working with underclassmen or first-year first-generation programs we have one called engineering futures or as I mentioned earlier student orgs let's students get to know your company its culture and also gives them a fuller understanding of what engineers really do on a day-to-day basis first-year students come in to Fulton and you know what's what's great about them is they're good at math and science but they really not sure what it is that an engineer does so to help with that Fulton host some great freshman engagement events one is called career exploration night usually happens in the fall and for the most part these are in-person events when they can be you know that's that's been a little bit different lately but how that looks is almost like a science fair where industry professionals stand at tables with prototypes posters or videos anything that reflects what they do on a day-to-day basis has a professional engineer and they just have engagement with students they talk about what it is they do and it helps the students decide if they are on the right path and it also tends to be a great branding opportunity for the company another event I want to mention is e2 camp which takes place in the summer usually up in Prescott and it's an experience that allows engineers to come in as guest speakers they can have lunch with students maybe or assist them with a project that they're working on at the camp and the reason why we love this so much is because it supports our student goals and we've also found that as they matriculate they you know just have that better understanding of what these companies do and these influential conversations help them when they're deciding to launch their own career path so it's kind of like a win-win for everybody and as you can imagine these areas often overlap which collectively just creates a higher level of branding for companies and for those starting to thinking about recruiting as soon as possible I'd be remiss not to mention our upcoming engineering online career fairs which are on the next slide and they are coming up right away so on Valentine's Day February 14th we will be hosting the computing and information technology fair on February 15th it'll be for masters and PhD and for the 17th it will be for our undergraduate students now for masters and undergraduate those are open to all students engineering computer science and construction as where the one on the 14th is more for computing and information technology students and I think I can stop there just want to thank you for your time and I will toss it over to Tim Beatty. Hello everyone Tim Beatty Business Development Director for Fulton Schools of Engineering and excited to talk to you about industry collaboration before I get started though I want to say a couple things Lauren's remarks couldn't be more spot on in terms of what the recruiting environment looks like right now with our engineering students the competition amongst industry and all the discussions that myself and Eric have with industry coming into Arizona or our unknowing industry partners that one of the first things that's always on the top of mind is securing the talent pipeline and recruitment and I can say that it's I've not seen it as competitive it is right now so I'm going to talk to you about ways that industry can actually get involved with the Fulton School of Engineering this is just a different version of what Drew have already showed you this is how we are organized within Fulton Schools the School of Manufacturing Systems and Networks which is the advanced manufacturing school and the Poly School are based and our campuses are out in Mesa and but I'm also going to talk to you about you know how you can engage across the entire Fulton Schools depending on what your business requirements are and the kind of engineering talent that you're looking for next slide please so as I probably have talked to many of you or hope to talk to many of you it's unprecedented the amount of economic development that's gone on in the manufacturing ecosystem within the state of Arizona the timeliness of our reorganization and starting of the manufacturing school of systems and networks couldn't be more timely and there's a convergence of opportunities for companies that want to engage with Fulton Schools but one of the things I wanted to highlight was uh the reason that we're doing this new school of manufacturing it's also a new economic initiative within the state of Arizona and you can see down below that the state of Arizona has invested several millions of dollars in helping us enable recruitment of new faculty doing research in the five areas that Drew highlighted and securing that future pipeline of talent that's going to be creating new jobs and supporting industry in this future so while we've already started standing up the the STCs for the energy materials and devices in the advanced manufacturing there's other STCs that will be started soon thereafter in the coming years so we're fortunate to have the ability to start with the focus on advanced manufacturing next slide the thing that I wanted to convey to everybody is that because ASU is a large university and we have tremendous capabilities across different areas specifically within the Fulton School of Engineering we can tailor the industry engagement to meet your business needs at scale and so if you're a small company we can tailor your the relationship accordingly or if you're a large multinational corporation we can meet those needs as well I wanted to highlight some examples of you know successful partnerships that we have across the university and also within Fulton and really they vary in terms of the types of business needs that each of these corporate sponsors needed to have in terms of key elements of the partnership with ASU and the Fulton School starting with the pic photo on the lower left and we're going to work across this this chart that's the applied materials co-located research facility at the macro technology works which is a state of the art research center down in our office park in Chandler their amp has actually got their engineers working closely with our researchers and our graduate students to work on solutions for their business so they're actually a land we are actually a landlord for amp so it involves both research and also office space the next opportunity that I have highlighted is the on semiconductor endowed professors one is those professors is working in the wp carry school of business working on supply chain issues related to the semiconductor industry and the other professors doing focused research collaborating with on semiconductor to meet their business needs and then on and on we have the bail clinic adidas and starbucks starbucks had an issue with retention of their employees and with the support and engagement of ASU we've developed a starbucks academy to help starbucks employees to improve their their standing and life by finishing college or taking college to upskilling their skills for their business careers at starbucks so we can scale and we can also tailor our industry corporate sponsorships and relationships accordingly to your needs next slide another thing that uh highlighted that was highlighted by lauren which is industry sponsored capstone projects across the folton schools the senior engineering uh undergrads are required to take capstone courses to meet their graduation requirements and what i'm highlighting here is the the program out of poly school which is a high level of industry engagement over 95% of our projects are all sponsored by industry and the get a the companies get a great opportunity to recruit directly with the senior engineers by sponsoring projects and that's not just that poly but it's across the folton schools and if you can think about it it's a nine month interview process with your ability to actually see how these seniors would fit into your culture what kind of skill sets that they have can they communicate can they work across teams because that's all part of the critical elements of the teams that are student teams that are working on capstone projects and that's a website you can go to that will further give you more details on how the program works and some examples of different industry sponsored capstone projects but by far this is one of the most popular ways to engage the folton schools of engineering at the senior level for recruitment next slide the other thing that we're working closely with companies on is workforce development and one of the things that ASU was awarded last year in 2021 was a department of labor four year eight million dollar workforce development grant and it's really an outstanding opportunity for us to partner with industry and industry associations and develop workforce development curriculum for the four different areas that you see highlighted advanced manufacturing is one of those but also cyber security information technology and data analytics the really the focus of the goal training goals are for the az next workforce development grant are for new talent upskilling and rescaling all those elements are part of the conversations that we have with many of the companies that we partner with and have conversations with about we can support their talent and skill set requirements for the future and also current employers as well we're targeting various participants that you can see from the unemployed or underemployed to all the way to high school graduates and also ASU students you have more details on those websites we're partnered with many of the industry associations economic development associations to help promulgate the and communicate these programs that are available for companies to take advantage of and happy to have those conversations with you as well but this is an outstanding opportunity for ASU to help the industries that we support through additional workforce development opportunities next slide these are just examples of some of the companies that we have and community partners that reach not just within the phoenix ecosystem of the industry but also down into Tucson so we're trying to make a statewide impact through the az next community and also partnering with industry across the state next slide so a couple other opportunities for companies to engage whether you're small or large we have a going back to what Drew was highlighting with regard to our science and technology centers that are focused on advanced manufacturing and electronics we're going to host an industry day on February 17th and that's where companies can help us identify critical research needs that the industries have and help facilitate and collaborate with our faculty that will be involved with those strategic thrusts that Drew highlighted and we're going to have a half day session that'll be hosted virtually to to develop those those research projects that are going to be the formulation of those STCs so that's an outstanding opportunity to work with our researchers and faculty the other opportunity is our innovation showcase on our holly campus on May usually the first Friday in May I think that dates still tentative but that's typically when it happens and this is where you can come on our campus and actually see student led research projects or capstone projects that are for undergrad and also for graduate students that you can actually interface directly with the students and when they have their poster sessions and get a gauge for the kind of students that that were producing and also look at some ideas on how your company can actually get involved with the capstone program across Fulton schools so happy to facilitate an invitation for that as well and this is my contact information in case you want to have that conversation about the STCs or corporate engagement or caps for capstone sponsorships whatever those your needs are I can facilitate those conversations and I'm going to turn it back over to Eric now I think we're going to have our Q&A session thanks Tim thanks Lauren thanks Drew a lot of fabulous information shared there in this slide presentation will be available as well as a recording of this I have yet to see any questions in the Q&A chat but I have a couple of questions for our panelists on behalf of our group today everybody likes a good qualitative story and so the first question I guess is for Lauren without giving away any trade secrets what's a company that has really been an example of a best practice working with the engineering career center and what's what's the right way what things have they done right to really develop a good talent pipeline so that that'll be our first question for Lauren sure well actually we've got quite a few of them that we really appreciate and I don't believe they'll they'll mind me using their names at all as a grouping I'm just off the top of my head Amazon WL Gore OSI soft I believe they're now called Aviva do a great job with consistency they returned to the school semester after semester they work with students in either clubs or capstones but they also work with the full school's career center and they've offered up their services as mentors so they will come to some of these industry days where they were review resumes with students and get to know students well in that way some of them are even advisors to excuse me members on our advisory board and then the other one that really sticks out my mind is go daddy they are very embedded with the women in computer science student organization and they have great word of mouth as they provide really solid and robust internships and I may not have mentioned that you know it's great to be consistent it's great to be visible but at the end of the day you have to give the students what they want and that is feedback that we get is students really want a robust challenging internship and when they get that they will share that with their friends go daddy also funds a few scholarships each year to grace hopper for some of the women in computer science students so for those of you I'm sure you're familiar with it but it's a national female focus computer science conference and I know that gets them lots of attention as well. Terrific terrific thank you for sharing that Lauren. Drew you have an interesting perspective having spent quite a bit of time in industry before joining us in academia I think there's a tendency for industry to think that colleges and universities are dealing in this abstract world that is out of touch with what the real world is doing can you talk a little bit about what ASU is doing in the future I know you already talked about the new economy initiative all the things we're doing moving forward but can you just talk about how ASU is a little bit different than maybe some of the ivory towers that that sometimes become out of touch with with what the real world is working on and and how how ASU is overcoming that obstacle. I think in my experience and this is you know as I've been here for about four and a half years now at ASU after doing 10 years in industry and you know and having gone to some of those schools you alluded to Eric and coming here and becoming a professor and you know looking at how we teach things or interact with students I think the big difference I've seen is and this is particularly true on the in the polytechnic school and now the MSN school on the Mesa campus is this coupling of theoretical knowledge and hands-on knowledge and for us on this campus we take it for granted so nowadays we don't even we don't mention this as as often as we probably do when we go out and speak to folks off campus but the main idea for us is that you know we we want our students to make their learning project based and that's the biggest difference so to give you an example if you're learning additive manufacturing and in the courses that I teach because we have access to you know 15,000 square foot facility with six different 3d printing technologies I can afford to take all my lectures online and you know you can understand the theory of how a metal powder mates to become a metal part of it laser energy and then you actually come and use class time to print parts yourself and you know and characterize those parts so that's one example of the kind of thing that I would say more than half our classes for our students involve a significant amount of hands-on engagement that's point number one point number two and I wouldn't stretch this one as long is the the diversity of you know kinds of courses that you can spend your time in I think of advanced manufacturing and where we need to be improving our curriculum and modifying it for the future isn't really making sure we give our students the opportunities to take coursework in computing in in material science in you know Six Sigma statistics advanced statistics supply chain you know at the school of business so that to me is is the opportunity we have we already have a lot of those horizontal we ought to have those represented in many of the schools we talked about as well as the school of business for example in the case of supply chain and logistics so to me that's the opportunity to couple that access to different kinds of thinking in different domains and couple it to a foundation of hands-on interaction where you are building a gadget and you need to connect it to the internet and you can actually think about you know what kinds of firewalls or how do you make this little piece of hardware cyber secure for example so to me that's the the melding of those two ideas is where we're going and that's what's very exciting about the conversations we have in the hallway yeah I hope I answered that Eric no that that was perfect that was perfect thank you Drew thank you and and then one more question for for Tim Tim you've you've spent a very part of a successful career and industry working at Honeywell what what drew you to academia what have you learned coming and working at ASU and at our Polytechnic campus what are some things people should know when they have an industry that may want to engage with ASU sometimes it seems like boy where do I even begin what advice what what what input can you give to them having such such a good perspective coming from a successful industry industry career over to ASU great questions Eric I guess the first part is why am I here and that's to have impact and I had 35 plus years of industry experience that I felt like I could share with students and faculty and have impact on translating what companies needs are with matching that with solutions that the Fulton schools can provide and it's not just you know on the research side it's just day-to-day recruitment of students collaborating with Lawrence team and also Drew Drew's an outstanding faculty member that really gets the industry needs in terms of projects and how to teach and he's very open we've had companies come in and have guest lectures in his class and you know that's the kind of collaboration that I want to be part of and part of a team that that encourages that so that's why I'm here I'm here to hopefully have impact and helping companies solve their their talent pipeline requirements and drive some new technology solutions for their businesses in terms of the easiest ways to engage I think you know the in the goes back to what Lawrence talked about and what I talked about is capstones is one of the best ways because you have a company sponsored project that is relevant to their business but not critical path and you have the ability to work with three to five students over the course of nine months to see how they can actually think out of the box apply the latest thinking in terms of engineering discipline to solving a industry relevant problem and you also get a chance to work closely with them and mentor them through that process and see how they would fit into your business culture and I can't think of a better way to find a footing on the within full schools to to sponsor capsules as is a first way to enter into the engagement as well as the take advantage of the the offerings that Lauren highlighted in terms of recruitment and I think the the most important thing that I've taken away for since being here for three and a half years is you the companies that are consistent with their engagement are the wins are the ones that win especially in the recruiting battle and it is it's very competitive and those companies find ways to talk to not just our seniors but also to our freshman sophomore and juniors and they start the process there and I can help facilitate that with our faculty our faculty have yet to have a conversation with faculty where they didn't want a guest speaker from an industry partner come in and talk about what's it like to be an engineer at their company or what are the dynamics of being a manufacturing engineer in today's automotive industry so just as an example so those those opportunities are there and and it doesn't take much other than a focused strategy on part of a company and the companies that win are also the ones not just consistent with engagement it's a strategic strategy that they want to have a relationship with ASU and it just doesn't have to be just full school it can be across the different units within ASU so the ones that win take it seriously and they're committed to it and they treat it like as if it was a business account of one of their top customers and so they have metrics they they measure themselves they ask for our input we collaborate with them and we find opportunities for them to engage and have influence at the end of the day so that's my two cents for it that's that's terrific that's terrific thank you tim i want to again thank all of our panelists for the wonderful information they shared with us today i want to encourage the audience that if you do have a need please don't hesitate to reach out to ASU any of our panelists our office of economic development our corporate engagement and strategic partnership team as arizona state university we are here to help build grow and continue to prosper the economy of the state of arizona for all of our residents we're excited about all the wonderful activity that's taking place across the state we're excited to be a part of it and we are always happy to help and lend a hand in our recruitment and attraction and growth efforts of the companies that are here and the companies that are moving here so again thank you to all of our panelists thank you to everyone that joined us today and again reach out if you have any additional questions thank you and have a wonderful day