 This is the way to do it. This is the way to do it. Our talent you have can go miles with you if only you put it to task. Challenging your capability is what success is all about. Join me as we talk with Lucy Timora. Karebusana. Ngefenda kuleza, what has been your greatest decision in life? Avmola is wanted to be a business woman. Since my mum is also a business woman, so I mean we want that urge to be a business lady. So in business, can you tell us a bug story of what exactly you do in business? In business I sell bugs and I also do clothes. That is ready made clothes. So I feed them from Isilina Nairobi, then I sell at Kibuyi Market. I also do bugs. I design but I have a tailor who makes them for me. So you do bugs you design. So you are a designer for bugs basically? Yes, with Ankara. How did it begin? I went for an Egyptian expo at Agakan Hall. And then I found a bug which had an African friend. And I just loved it. Someday I will make bugs with African friends. That's when I came with the design of Ankara bugs. Business and social work, there is a bit of a margin in between. So how did you transition from studying social work into making or designing bugs? So I graduated in 2016. There is no work. So when I say hi, where would I see it around? So someone, Kani Pelika for promotion, I used to do insto activations in spoma capes. So I started doing my first promotion I did with the Chendara industry. So I give a promotion for three months, for tissue. Then from there, ah pese kakwam zulison kasama. Promotion is something that comes one month. You stay at home, another week, you stay mezakata months with no jobs. So I used to save up because I wanted to start my own business. And then someday nikanza ya kuza klub. Before bugs came. Only lands at klub. And then with klub, we learned only me in 2018. Egyptian expo is when I have kibia lemi also do bugs. Yes. So what about your study social work? Social work now come April this year. Aficity came to Kisubu. Remember? So I met this organization called Kenya Female Adversary Organization. That is Kefiado. They were looking for a young lady doing business to kashukesu her work during the aficity summit. So they give me a space at Lake Besen Mall. So looking at what they do, I said this is what I also studied for. So lemi go and ask one of them if they hire people with their vacants. They want someone or I can volunteer for a start. I can't get a chance. I told I did social work and community development. And I see that's what you people are practicing. Can I get a chance? And then she told me to go back to the lady who referred me to her. To give me a space in one of the activities they were going to do on that weekend. Wow. So the aficity is eliesha on a Thursday. So on Saturday I went to Kefiado. They had a piece of work at V Higa County. Yes, before election. So I went with her. She said that I should go with her so that she can see what I can do. Just then from there. Okashain. That is nice. So is this a talent you had or you trained to have that? I trained. So tell us about it. As in the way I saw it, I used more in the pin interest. So one or two most of my designs from there. And then one asichora. To be your process. I want to make a bag but I don't know how to design it. What you design it? Nikiisha over na. And then I can also do the then. I just drew. And then what to do with it? And then I send to my tailor. He is the one who makes it for me. So I send the event to him. Then he makes me the bags. So with your bags and Kefiado, how do you intend to balance the two skills? So before Kefiado came in, I used to go to the market from Tuesday to Sunday. But when Kefiado came, now I have to go only during market days. Which is kisuma is gone only on Sunday. So I go to the market only on Sunday. I rest on Saturday. Tell us a bit about Kefiado. What do you do in Kefiado? What position do you have there? And how has it impacted your business in a way? Okay, Kefiado is a Kenya female adversary organization. They deal with the gender issues. They deal with the community and leakages program. Institutional capacity building. And they also supports for change. And they also supports young women in business. So that's where I come in in Kefiado. Okay. So normally they also deal with people with disability. They include them so that their voice can be heard. Especially on their labor rights. Yes. So in Kefiado mostly I'm always in the field. I go and talk to the young girls in schools about sexual reproductive health rights. In terms of sports. We also go to schools. After just a group of girls to nurture their talents. So you go to school, you identify talents. And then they nurture from there. Okay. Yes, that's actually what you've been doing. Interesting. So how are your target audience? When selling old bags. The working class. The young girls. The youths. Because most of them wanna travel. So the working class make up laptop bags. Most of them wanna go to laptops. The college girls. Because laptop bags mostly they like to travel. Yes, because they do laptop bags and traveling bags. Yes. Are there any other products you work with or is it just bags? It is just bags and clothes. And clothes. What type of clothes? Ready made. Okay. Isili. So how do you manage the transport and all that? So Isili. Bukona na bayamutu atops. It was cut. So every time a kuna nikitu new. I talk to Mia. You select 21. You send the money. And every Thursday you make an order. And then on Friday you have your goods. I'm interested to know how did you network with people to in Isili. Yet you are based in Kisumu. The number, the number of talks, the number of dresses. So Nikiaza biashara. Ma lili li kwa na wuza in Kibuyu market before to Lewa 20 stadium. Mi li kwa na kwa niya kandu ya wamaama. And you know wamaama na kwa na. Biashara kadi biashara ni biashara. Biashara ni biashara. So every Thursday you used to travel to Nairobi. Yes. So wana jwa wana na na 300 pa huza uko tunayo 40 yama 50 yako. Yes. So yako tunalo na tumia. So li kwa tu constant, constant. Now at Weisili if you go every Thursday they know you. So they can even give you goods on credit. Yes. So during December they can give you goods even 100 kwa. Then you send them their money. So you know at the end of the day how to put it. You still go back to them to get the goods. So that's how nili kwa na wuza each and every person. Yes. A lot of young people kima liza shule they intend to be in offices get employed there. But how come you decided when the kibuyu market kuka na the ladies when you announce and go? So stuck as in in gold. It's very hard getting job. But then you may apply jobs in using as you kumili money. You may tembe akari guzoate. Kuchna ituku volunteer la kuni pate kazi zen. There was nothing. So nika sema ahiku kakwa nyuomba sa zote untaka kumbi mama kuntili pisaia kusonga nyu ele, pisaia nyu ele. Ah kuka sema I can get my own money from doing something. Plus my mum is an inspiration. She's a business lady. So it took it from her. Nali ko elewa. And about that experience na kete na ladies who have wame koma kwa biashara and your youth member may be have just entered. How was the experience? How did they take you? How was the reception? It was good. They were really encouraging. Those women will encourage you. Ata mimi nili ansia hapa. So ata ansia tu hapo siku moja uta fika mailuna tak. Wara tu kuna yo determination that unata raku fika hapa. So what about your peers, maybe your friends wame mimi na market dakuja maybe sa flani and flani. How did they take it? Most of my friends actually mimi pende moa in gizakwa business. Wow. So since kwa na wame kanta hanzana kidogo. Leta bitu zaku na mix na zangu unsande. Get your money, go home. How about the clientele? Where do you get your clientele from? In what way? Si waki kuja bani kwa karibu kastoma, karibu kastoma. I feel good things. Clientu wakata kwa wakua kila siku. Ota kupigata simu na taku niki hi na hi na hi. They don't like waka gari. Iyo karibu kastoma, karibu kastoma. I say many markets unapata kuna wale wame adi wame tengene za nyimbo. Mia, so Mia, so si si kibu e. I don't do that. I don't do that. Kastoma kiki kuja. So we do shop display clothes. Atawana say many bamba. How much is this? Then on Sunday we sell on wholesale price. Yes. Niki kwa zumutata kuja chuketa dozen mahafa dozen. That's how we sell. And along this journey of being in the market, selling the bags and the clothes, how has that journey been from the beginning? It's not easy. At times kuna huza tu visu. At times there is no sale. But December you will sell. You will sell. Atakabukuna zile fagiza kitabo uta huza. Yes. But January there is no sale. Nakaatu. Tuza tau. But in December you sell a lot. But as long as you have stock you will sell. Because uta kuna variati. Sendyo. Mutu amchaka ina hina. He loves all the variety. And in clothes at weki ati you just do waschanatu. So in December mostly watotu ndwa ina henda. So kifika December I change. I bring more watoto to ladies. Yes. And what if I am a customer but Siko available. Okay. How do people get to reach you for that? See customer kikuji ata chukwa naba. Pata kitu mzuru nulimu zia na fair prize ata chukwa naba. Ata kupigia sima ata kumbi ya kamawenia na tuka bondu. Uta kumbeni eki hina hina hido. Sendyo de manu na eki. Nafena when you are so you are so young and relaxed saying it. You are proud of what you do. I love you baby. You are proud of what you do. And are there any challenges you have encountered since when you started your business and right now kalu mefika? Yes. When I was at tukitulewa kibiyo tukapele kwa stadium. Nizi gawangu ilipote ya. Yes. Buntu watu 50ki. Ilipote ya. So like subuini mefika Sunday yo akati before I joined Koteado. So nilikwana ingianga from Tuesday to Sunday. So beshari ilikwana bayan nika semashani relax and get to Sunday. No Sunday in the morning. So beshari bai 5 kuna fuku usia fika market. Because yo nilikwana kati the wholesalers wana kuja. So kwen dahi zibiangu wa eko. The whole day some zi goini nilikwana me tumana the previous day nililiuza. Zibiangu ya kila siku haiku kwa. So onikawanga jio ni time zi gozi na Onmande bado. Then come on Tuesday umamze alishe chikwam zi goa me kali atuotana ungoja munya kuja ulizi. But at the end of it nilipata. Nilipata? How did you feel? You feel like chana naika after zimepote ya? Hele scafi baya sana. So what how take us through your head space at that moment. You're a young person you may end around 50k. What do you do from that? So certain na niawa mwa bawa jufu wa so kwa chudandu alili sa idea zili kelele ya wana jusu sami uktige kelele nishinda but awa mamua li pige kelele wakasima yu umzigo lazima ita patikana. In the end of it through them nilipata yu umzigo kama engi kwa wow nilipata yu umzigo. Any other challenges? Any other challenges? Nkisha kwa na kastimua kila siku wambu mwe ke wu kufu kwa mwe kia na suma Waka ni waka kila siku atatu mape siku. Iki fikata zide wana chakumek order Amezima sinu. U. Suji uji fanya adi but so far challenges you see mob sana. And what ni ninu naza sama is the secret to keep those challenges from pulling you down as you continue with your business? Kwa to constant kwa kujua This is the amount I know. This is the water they sell. In every day, you calculate what you use and the profits. So that's kusifu mani wukutemi ya kumeka or does it. Kuna kituflani, when let's say someone, especially a young person, kianza biya shara, anona haia napata pesanyi ngi. So they go squanda the mani wuna pata hana another thing ya kumunuwa the capital. So what can you tell such a person? How do you manuwa through it? So me, every Sunday, since na fanya every Sunday, nikisha wuza say no the amounts nili tumi ya kuhoda. I will subtract from what's nili myself. And then i profiti angu, nili fungwa sako. So I'll send it to the sako. Yes. So nibaki na hini na jua hini dote nanta, tatumi ya yens. That's how I normally do it. Did you have any help deciding na henda kuhunguwa sako? Amma hidi kuatru your idea nita henda kuhunguwa sako? Sako hini kuhi na higera fiki angu mingini. Hali shia kuhuwa sako for a long time. Saka na biya hindi ya kuhuwa sako hini za kupatia lona. Kamunataka kuhu wuza to biya shara ya kutemi nili. Yes. That's how hini ganda kuhunguwa. Nili wuza sako. Nili kunguwa business. Nali wuza sako for my son. I have a son. Yes. So I'm a dad of one. That's interesting. You're talking so passionately about your business. And your day-to-day Sunday quenda market. If mimi niku jeni kumbenataka kupia kazi sasaivi, will you take it on? Yes. As long as mimi niya biya standia muna, ita baki tu ya biya biya shara. Yes. That's why you're willing to go. I will. Nice. Nupende wa spirit. You know, much people who are doing the thing now, they're like, mimi saki employment, I am my own employer. I will. So unataka bando. Yes, I will. Wow. So what are your future plans for this business and your career? Someday to have my own shop in a mall. Yes. And so doing pa tia kids too, ladies na bags. Yes. And what do you intend to call this business of yours in a mall? Fill and tea collection. Pardon? Fill and tea collection. Pardon? Fill and tea collection. Oh, nice. My son is called Philip. Uh-huh. I'm Tumora. So it's fill and tea. Fill and tea. Yes. So you intend to share the skill to your son as well? Yes. Next year, God willing, kama pesakutakwa, and asu wa tukilekshuntu ya ututuwangu. Pesaita. Asu niyo pesa niya nangitu kwa kawiti ake. Pesaita kwa. Yes. Kwa. If you have the will, trust me. Kila kifuna. Thank you. And lastly, what would you tell someone who feels stuck ame maliza shule akuna certain skillama akuna certain degree, but haoni penyanese? And since as you said, akuna kazi? What would you tell such a person? Kufu wachi uko passionet about. Kuma kufu passionet about. Kama sayi most kufu hendaga kwa make-up industry. Yagayang lady hauna kazi, lakini na how to do make-up. Pono siyendufa niya one, two, three, you get. Kesa kidugo. Kitu niya kufu, passionet about is what you should kufu. Siyongodi ati ati employment, employment. Pata kazi ningumusa ana. Yes. Mimi, I'm just struck by how happy and proud you are of doing your business in Kibuwe. I'm so happy. And I would ask you this. If you are ten years younger right now, what would you say to yourself? Ten years younger, original. I'm so proud of myself. As in the gangs, I used to pay my salary. Yes. Long before, when my dad used to tell us that kima liza shule, pata kazi ningumusa, kasi zili kwa like no. Tata kazi. Yes. Imediately after 4, she was like, go and do beauty. Kupu yatana solo niya kwa, at least uta kwa na pata pesa, to room kono yako. And you were like no. So only my sister first born went to Liyanda kufanya that course. Na ilim sayi dia before apate kazi. Yes, because it was always willing to give us the capital. But she said she was going to let me do pata kazi. Wow. Mimi nimi penda yo zili and the strength of going at it. Mita kana ha mama, wata nifuza na niti ena mbele. I love that. I love that. We will always encourage you. So matata kame kuchina na kwa nbi atufanya tu. Wow. I have loved your zili. I have loved your strength and your passion about what you're doing. I've loved that so much and I have to thank you for coming and congratulations as you keep soaring high. Thank you. You out there, you have this thing that you want to do. Untukakwanze yubiashara, untukakwanze your restaurant. You just want to do something. Go at it with passion, go at it with energy. When they will kind of how mentors, look for the mentors whoever they are, when you wata kwa nbi atufanya, they will fight for you. Vituza kwa ziki potia, they will shout for you. Wata piga yo kelele. Look for those people na wata kupele kamele. This has been Newton Action. I am Miangueso Greenies.