 What's the difference between Smart Drugs and Neutropics? Is ANZIT48 a Smart Drug or a Neutropic? How about Modafinil and Adrenal? Why is it so important to know the difference? I discuss this and much more with Lukas, the founder of Urgogenic Health. Let's first of all define like what is a Neutropic? Well, you know, I'm really passionate about this topic. And when I hear people saying tropics are, you know, Smart Drugs, I get, you know, slightly angry, I would say, because I personally, I don't think Neutropics and Smart Drugs are the same thing because, you know, I see, you know, Smart Drugs as, you know, Modafinil and Adrenal and Ritalin, other drugs that are by definition drugs. And, you know, you need a prescription for that, at least in most countries, can cause severe side effects. Whereas Neutropics, the way I see them are more like not necessarily natural, natural, it can be synthetic compounds that provide various, cognitive enhancing benefits without any side effects if you, you know, obviously follow the recommendations and, you know, the stupid things. So that's how I, you know, define tropics and that's the difference between Smart Drugs. And since most people are still saying, you know, Neutropics are Smart Drugs and vice versa, of course, many people say, you know what, I'm not going to take those drugs, you know, those are illegal or, you know, dangerous or whatever. But, you know, I think by the definition that was defined when the first, you know, Neutropic Puracetam was made, I think the Neutropics have to be side effects free. I mean, nothing is side effects free. If you overdose, that's something else. And but at least by definition, there should be side effects free. So that's the main difference. And that's what I'm always trying to point out that, you know, they're not the same thing in my opinion. Yeah, yeah, I totally agree. And I also like to illustrate that it's like the risk to reward ratio. When you're comparing like, let's say, the whole purpose of a Neutropic is that you're taking it and over time it's building up your baseline cognition, right? Like you're not using something like, you know, Madaphne or Ritalin, Adderall, things that actually deplete your neurotransmitters and leave you feeling in a, in it or operating in a deficit. Like that just completely defeats the purpose. So that's where I was like, I agree. I mean, they can be highly advantageous, particularly for those looking to like, they're looking for a longer term solution to optimize their brain performance. Absolutely. The issue is that many people think like, you know, Neutropics are kind of a short term solution, like a shortcut, basically something that you take today. And, you know, in 15 minutes, you shine and, you know, have this amazing brainpower and memory and focus and whatnot. And some Neutropics do provide some short term effects there. There's no doubt about it. But like, like you mentioned, in general, they are made to be taken for a longer period. And as the whole idea, you see, for example, with Bacopa Moneria, that's one of the Neutropics, I think the studies show that, you know, it becomes effective for memory enhancement after, I think, six to eight weeks of supplementation. So for the first six weeks, you basically have no benefits in terms of memory, but then studies show something's going on, something happens. So there, yeah, like I said, they're more like a long term solution. And still more supplements than drugs, I would say. Definitely look at them as like very complimentary to the whole bar hacking philosophy, right? Like, I mean, both you and I understand that nutrition, exercise, light exposure, all of these are critical. And you need to get these right first. And then you're adding in Neutropics on the top is sort of like the icing on the cake, giving you that maybe like 10 to 15% boost in cognition. So let's sort of dive into the whole world of formulating stacks and things like that. So maybe let's start out with some of the biggest mistakes you see people making when they want to get into the whole world of Neutropics. If you guys want to see the whole interview, then click below on the link and check it out. Thank you and I hope to see you soon again. Stay well.