 Check it. Check it. Check it. It's a unique house. It's your boy e ceo And I'm here with the lovely amazing official mr. Mako. What's going on? Man, hey man, check it man. Look out man. We down here in H town man. Hey man We got somebody that's very very special this guy right here man. He been putting it down man Them sounds that you hear man. This guy right here is the one that'll do that for you This guy might have might even be on the wheels or still is what we used to call it man Check it man. My boy Harvey is in the building. Yes, man. Yes, man. Yes I'm Harvey love to come down King's super producer. You know, I'm saying call by many So I'm here in the county for man. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Yes, sir You know my honor and my pleasure you one of them guys man. They say I had to talk to you So that's what God did God did You know, that's what he was doing down there the God been doing it But they just all of a sudden got a handle of right. I did right now God done. You know Still doing Still doing. Yeah, you know, what if you don't do nothing else he done enough for me? Absolutely real time um, so when you When you think about the Houston sound when you think about that sound to me and look he he talked about when I was over there And he say Dallas, you know, they just never did find a sound and they and ESG told me the same thing when he came Dallas it was just we found our sound early on You also had to have a beat. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, yeah You also had to have a beat that sounded somewhat a Houston sound, right, right? They talked about the cadence of the music But but the cadence of the voice, but I'm talking about the sound of the music. Absolutely, but I Get what he and kick you the same but at the same time Dallas was always able to come with a hit though. You could always get a hit record from Dallas, you know You know, yeah, yeah, that's how it ended in the data several times They be jigging with it. They you know, yeah, you know, you're gonna rock when you get there a lot of songs I didn't even know, you know existed, but it rock in that area and it's I mean, they be hit songs I mean, I'm sorry So so just let's go down through there a little bit with him. Let's figure out who this guy is We don't even know who this is. He could be an imposter. Maybe this ain't hard Somebody else, you know, cuz you know Harvey is a name that when I thought about him like damn I know he must really been kind of like damn Harvey. Well, then when the when the storm came it was like man You know that had to be something. Well, let me tell you what separates me from other Harvest my name is Harvey love Harvey L. U. V. And There's what reason why I say that is because it's 4,000 Harvest in the United States. I already check He didn't count it the harvest. Well the last thing you check, you know, there are more being born every day And now you know, you're right. We just embarked on eight eight billion people worldwide now So you are right about that. So it may be way more than 4,000 because that was good No, well, I guess a couple of years ago, right? Oh, yeah That's a lot more now. I just don't think that people just run around here. So you know call them sales Harvey, but A long line of Harvest already So you're born and raised in Houston. Yes. Yes. What part what part Houston? I'm in the third ward area as far as born, but I'm raised in harm club I left third wall when I was what 12 years old and I've been in harm club. You know Scott Street. What? Live off of Scott, you see what I mean? Absolutely Scott Street story. Yeah. Yeah, for sure man How was it coming up though that early on like you hear stories about the third the field? How was it on Scott Street? That's that street had a reputation. Well, it's historic You know, I mean you can get to so many different, you know institutions off of Scott Street You know, you can you I mean just so many ways. I mean Yates is off of what like Scott and Samson, okay? So, you know, it's it's very very There you go very very popular. It's for you know, that strip, you know, whatever McGowan is Emancipation is, you know, I'm saying so it's you know a lot of historic streets where a lot of things happened back in the day, but I Say that because that's where a lot of my fun going up was or whatever But I was always too young now I was able to really retro, you know, really recognize it in retrospect when I look back It's a man. It was a lot going on, you know, and all of that in third water, whatever But in harm Clark, I gotta bring that up. We have our streets as well So it seems like you like harm Clark better than the reward never, you know, I like the same Because what it is, I don't like and I don't like third one better than harm Clark either because, you know, I Was born in born in harm Clark, but like I said, you know, her third one You're born in third Ward. Yeah, third one. I was born in third Ward, but harm Clark raised me, right? And so, you know, I Hey, that's why I got my bones and they you know, they actually adopted me as one of their own So when people say, hey, where you from from harm Clark because they you know I was just regular Harvey Kelly in third Ward, you know, whatever. I was DJing and stuff like that I've been DJing since I was eight years old. Eight years old. Who turns you on to DJ? Well, my mother put me in DJing because Let me have to explain this. My mother had a cat had a club. Your mother had a club Mm-hmm. My mother had a club and had nobody to babysit. You had a hip mop. Yeah, she was on the club So I Was sleep on the pool tables or whatever. I didn't have any I didn't have Exactly what it was. I know what I do join in you box That's it. Okay. It's a joint. It was a dream running with your daddy. Oh, yes, you did She cooks them. I named it after my father. Okay. What was the name of it? Yeah, this career, but but did y'all have some with some fish and stuff in there to eat Do we have a little in there? Yeah, she served food. My mother was a professional cook, too Yeah, that's cat food. She hasn't catfished in there. She had everything. I'm getting home, Brazil She had everything and we didn't have any babysitter, you know for me, you know And so I would have to sleep on the pool tea. She had an extra pool table in the back She wasn't using whatever I had to sleep on the pool table to be out the way to grown-ups and all that After I come home from school and all that I didn't go home. I went to my mother's club, you know You must have been the oldest one. I was the only one. Oh, so you're the only child I'm an only child. I have two sisters, but they never lived with me. So I grew up the only child older older and younger Oh, I'm in the middle and I'm adopted to the mother that had the club. I'm adopted to her So where's your mom? Well my biological mom No, that's the thing that I teach other people like, you know, you biological, you know Well, the thing is she's still around me. I talk to her all the time every day So you knew her while you were growing up? I did. I actually met her later on. How old were you when you met her? Probably about I mean, I probably about what five six. Okay, not that later on I thought you were just gonna say like teenager. No, we were always all together, you know So my my deal was, you know, she she's a very good lady I mean my mother, you know had, you know, like helped us both out like brother and sister for a minute You know, so it's it would turn out it was a good situation. That's good Do that and end up adopting the kids because sometimes they'll they knew I don't know what your your biological mom situation was right, but a lot of people that I know to have Done that it was usually because the person was on drugs and couldn't get to two carols, right? The child so they went ahead and took the child right and raised him in the fall in love and then adopting that right Well in this situation in this situation, it wasn't it wasn't like that. Okay, glory be to God for that But it wasn't like that. She was young, you know, she's only 15 years old when she had you exactly exactly so my mother No story short on that my mother adopted me, you know and raised me and I feel like I mean beat me like Nobody's business. You know me like with that bill, you know, so like but I thank God for every lick because I've never been in any trouble She raised me. I mean like I mean to be, you know, just honorable respectful, you know, like right now I mean like I don't care who is who it is a man woman child Anybody I'm gonna hold the door and wait for you to get there I'm gonna hold the door and you know open the door for people to get in the car Oh, whatever because those are things that you just just things that I would talk You know, I was taught as a youngster, you know, and I used to really get real spankers for that I have a father in the house as well because you know, a lot of people absolutely don't have that statistics of a black You know man or black person is the father is not in the home is the split family. Yeah Yeah, and I mean, you know different circumstances that make that that way that is too. I know that's a whole different deal But I just I commend you man You you you you come from a Situation where God he made a way for y'all to know absolutely and you know, you said you mentioned God earlier We're always I look at that in the conversation. So even in your voice you can hear that you was raised Either around somebody that was spiritual You can hear it in your voice my mother you hear what I just say absolutely. I know it I don't have to great. I don't have to that's how I know I can try to spirit The words say you have to have a spirit of discernment. It talks about that in 1st Corinthians chapter 12 It talks about the gifts of the spirit exactly And that's something that I look at like I can tell just by the way that you know the tree by the fruits that it bear So when I'm listening to you talk and I hear your dialect, I can hear God in you Absolutely, God gives us all that but it's you know, it's up to you to pray for you know to be able to recognize that I just thank God for you brother. I mean, you know, that's what people don't understand. Everybody don't get the same Interview right God tell me what to say absolutely. I'm toned in I'm tapped in with God Yeah, so when I see if you need to hear something to say we got to get it together And he tell me what to talk about on that if he if you tell me to tell somebody to let's keep going Because you got it going on in me then I tell you that too. Oh, man, you feel Absolutely, I think God for just having the spirit of discernment, you know what I mean? So I When you think about just the music though, did you well? How did you first like start just like playing the music? Well, this is what happened like I was saying about the DJ and Back when I you know not dating myself, but you know pretty much my you know, I'm public knowledge When I started DJing I was like I said I was eight years old because I was Fascinated by the DJ see like today's in today's clubs DJs are every day. I mean, you have a DJ That's that's how the music is played in clubs and if you don't have your iPad I guess or something like that But back then it was jukebox through the week live DJs on weekends So on the weekends, I was just so fascinated by this DJ named Wild Child Okay, that would he shout out Wild Child. Yeah, he's still living. I think that Wild Child pass man And you got it. Yeah, I think this is like 40, you know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So my deal is Wild Child will be DJing and I was just so fascinated the way he could just make the records play Himself as opposed to just sitting back watching this this machine play the records, you know He playing them, you know, and what about requests and he talking to the crowd and they dancing and responding to what he's saying and all that I wanted that and so my mother got him to teach me Hey teach my boy that one of because it was gonna give me something to do I would be so bored after doing the homework and all that kind of stuff like that So once I got into that or whatever I used to have to stand on milk crates little square To reach the table there's all once I did that by the time I was like 1011 whatever you know, I started this because this is just before I moved time clock So I'm about ten years old They turn to me lose sometimes for our At the club my friends couldn't even come in that's why a lot of my friends never saw me DJ or whatever because they Were too young to come in the club. It's almost like this is after-school tutoring So this is I'm giving you the full circle how it made me popular and I had put me out there blew me up like that Well when I was DJing All of a sudden people start coming from far near to see this kid that knows how to play all these songs on it And I'm like come on y'all everybody get up talking to them talking to them So it everybody starts saying like man, look at this little key And how old was this? I was 11 about that time. It's hard. By the time I turned 12 I was the only DJ watch I would need you know DJ in there anymore. Hold on. Was your mama paying you? I guess I don't know She paid me but let me sleep Taking me to school feed me and all that on yeah, so She doing it at whatever and you know I see how that helped a lot too because she got more clientele because they wanted to see this This little phenom kid doing that and plus like you know like you just said, you know She wouldn't have to pay why I have to pay him And then I'm trying to cry out to Yeah, she really pulled the play on You know and I've worked in corporate America Training the new guy, you know you Place Believe that you know saying so same thing so it happened that way and then by this time, you know Cuz I'm going to Ryan. I'm going to run and I'm in talent shows and stuff like that Ryan is the middle school. Okay Like a lot of people that went to Yates. They came from Ryan middle school So I met Ryan. I'm in talent shows. I'm DJ and the party's there Graduated from Ryan went to Madison. Now this time. I moved behind Clark now I'm the main DJ even at ninth grade for all of the Madison parties the home Cummins and all this kind of stuff like that and My name is Harvey Kelly But I started, you know, like I'm DJ Harvey love DJ Harvey love whatever and so I started DJing for the The teachers or if they private parties at their own house and they would trust me I never took nobody's business back to school and all this kind of stuff like that Not that they were doing anything wrong and they wasn't doing anything wrong But they saw that man, he's like a little grown-up. He can trust him He did know how to play the right music. Yeah, all the teachers start hiring me on the weekends stuff for their own Parties at home and I never would come back to school saying hey, I did, you know, Miss Anderson's work miss You know, I just I never would do that. Yeah, I'll never you trustworthy. Yeah I'll never would say I DJ for a teacher. It never got back to school So when they did that they wouldn't know by them knowing me like that They will start calling me Harvey love my mind by my stage name versus my real name. Yeah, I'm putting it on my test papers Everything that's why a lot of people don't even know my name was Harvey Kelly Well, not that they got I got, you know, we got Facebook and all this kind of stuff like that They know it and whatever but it's been Harvey love Harvey love Harvey love and that popularity blew me up in school And that's how I got me so so you get when did you first? Start, you know Producing the tracks to tracks. This is what happened Big mellow. Yeah, okay. Okay. That's what put me in the game professionally So because he and I would you know, he was the rapper I was the DJ at all of Madison Towner shows We got together and got you know with professional Simon Rappelot after we after we graduated How are you so? 19 yeah, I was 19. I was yeah, I was 8 I graduated 17 turned 18 next month. I Was 19 years old. Okay, so yeah, I'm not signed a rapper I was on there when you're like me Scarface, you know, willy-dee all of us, you know So, you know, it was big Mike. What Mr. Lee there with y'all. He wasn't there yet No, Lee wasn't there really so that was early on it was early. I don't I don't believe it was there You was early with it. It was like, yeah, yes indeed. Yeah, yeah, so you was there when I never seen a man cry Until I've seen the man Scarface, you know me and Scarface tight tight tight He so each sung us that song I can I can tell you what we were like in his car And he was just letting us hear the demo tape of that song What up the ghetto? I mean like I remember like with my Patrick's on me That was a song that was gonna be like some solo stuff that he was doing but it fit the ghetto boys better Yeah, as a group. How did they came up with that with that little face? Meaning said that it fit the whole ghetto No, no, I don't know how they I guess they got together and that but you see what I'm saying Okay, we were at a club called boomerang Scarface let me hear that him rapping that song by himself now will you know Willie D and that's why We just heard absolutely so Willie D and Bush because it was probably involved They probably wrote all wrote the song together whatever but when face let us hear it was just him by itself And so I'm like man, that's amazing. That song was amazing. No, it was good. Oh, man I already knew about though, you know, because for me from DJ Yeah, I already knew about the war Sample that he used and everything I already knew what you know, it was just like wow wow and the eyes of haze I the eyes of haze and stuff. Yeah That's what it was that the eyes of haze. So it was like man. It was so it was amazing. Yeah, I'm saying so We you know, I'm like wow man that music break that he took that music made How did you how did you when you heard the the final version? How did you it was crazy? It was like what the hell it was what it was way above what I could have anticipated Yeah, cuz when you think about it was crazy People don't like Willie D wrote that verse for Bushwick. Yeah. Yeah, but he's a monster God it fit him. Well, he is a monster in that studio man. I never say it. Uh, then they could say it Uh Fifth Ward is his spot where niggas get shot I don't know who sell cock and every block the niggas stars if they don't start it with bill like like This man wrote this and be of what bill wasn't from here. Was he with billers from Bushwick? You from New York. He was from New York. Bushwick, Brooklyn. Yeah, but he came here and he Will it be start pushing him into this culture with the way he was right man. Well Bill was actually there, but you know with Johnny C in ready read, you know, it bill was there in jukebox Okay, bill was there before everything. So he was there all the time all the time. Yeah, he likes so he was running south really We are here. Well, he was here. Yeah, man, but bill was nice bill was nice, too I mean like he would he's just a such a such a perform RMP the video performance man was amazing I mean if you know you if you know wouldn't if you didn't see your witness These shows that the ghetto boys were doing as a you wouldn't even treat. Oh my goodness. We were we on the label with him We're on the show we opening up. We doing this, you know me and big mellow whatever mellow had a maze and roll He would be with us. Yeah, right. Yeah. Okay. He would be with us You know because it was big mellow in the bonfire productions boner production peach and big mellow Whatever that was our group. He would finish our show Go back in the dressing room change and come back out You know saying either with the ghetto boys or with Scarface, you know what he wouldn't pretty much be together But he'll be like Scarface is high man and Scarface doing a like a show by you know solo because he was so so Scarface was solo artist as well. Yeah. Yeah, so so mellow was Scarface's hype man So he was really working that. I mean that mellow got to be probably The most one of the most talented artists I've ever worked with in my life. Wow, so ever what you mean? Ever even more talented. He's coffee. He seems well Well, I'm not gonna ever say he could rap better than Scarface because Scarface is my fave. He might go Yeah, so I'm not gonna say you know him and it's two people that I have Scarface and Kay Reno. I Mean and I happen to know both of them like like this or whatever Where does pimp see fall in all of that pimp see that's different, but that's different though No, no, no, you know, I get you right But pimp see was a beast because you know all of us hung together, right? I'm seeing bond hunger rap a lot just as well You know, you injecting pimp see into something that they would be because he was but he was jibbed Oh, and he was they were that under he was he under different record label and then they was in Port Arthur, which is like what 45 50 minutes away from Houston. That's true. That's true So yet and still even though you write about that, but he still would hang out with us. Correct We were going shows and stuff like that. We did we even did shows and PA. Yeah, so Pimp see and bond they would be right there. We were cool. We did shows and Austin gather, you know And all of that kind of stuff like I mean we did a whole I'm trying to just rap a lot of spiel right now I don't know why I see an injected pimps in it cuz I'm going there with you Okay, that's right now I want to talk about this Scarface and this whole the Legendary moved at Jay because we can't leave little Jay out, you know So, you know, all of this stuff is working together and I mean like man, you see what I'm saying for me my whole career. I mean post-wrap a lot Wow, you know, how did you first meet me little Jay? Well, but I got cool with Jay through mellow, you know, man, you know, Jay and mellow was real tight Okay, mellows real tight or whatever, but that without you know with us being in the group That would always be around Jay. Jay is just 100 dude. He's just real. I mean in a lot of times They don't know they think that Jay is just the CEO putting the money behind it and you know, and he good No, Jay involved when they been in the studio Jay in there No, you know say hey, man, no, no, no bring bring that back. Come on. Just say this like this Come on, man. Look, you know, come on. You can come harder. He technical. He he in there He tell you don't get a boys again I'm ghetto boys albums and all that kind of stuff like Jay was down He wouldn't they wouldn't like he calling to the studio to see how everything went No, Jay putting in the work. Well, that's what I'm saying people just done Didn't know that part about Jay Jay in there like what time we gotta go. Oh, okay. I'll be there You could tell cuz you know what we need to say. Oh, yeah Yeah, oh, yeah, that's only in there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He watching what's going on He want to know how this whole he'll listen to some songs like man, I think we can just I think I don't know man I think we can go back on that one man and I'm talking about songs that's getting ready to get wrapped up Jay listen to Love music He was in there He wouldn't know just CEO like okay y'all ready to hear the money. Okay. I mean it's okay. I wasn't here He was hands-on and so I mean like with us and everybody He wouldn't this is you know, Jay wanted here then and not that we got to just do stuff out for him But he wanted to be involved. He loved music so much. He wanted to be with it You know, he yeah, Jay was on that hip-hop. He was on his hip-hop. So what was it? We like that, you know saying we like we used to love the fact that what was the biggest like like like Thing song that you produced during that time during the 90s man Biggest one so the most okay. Well, let me tell you how it happened. I was just DJing remember. I'm a DJ So I was just DJing I idolized Crazy see who was in the group with us. Okay, he was the actual producer for the group Okay, but since I was so popular We know people know from the schools and from everything going around in the city and all that people was thinking I was doing those tracks. Okay a lot of times or whatever. Now. This is what actually happened I was so fascinated once I see people doing stuff that I like whatever I study him It's like just like in the corporate America they call it job shadowing. That's right. So I was oh, I will watch You know, you know, crazy see and he was so good. I idolized him. I was like, man I want to learn how to do whatever I loved it so much and he's such a good dude I've had my whole life behind crazy. Yeah, you know, he like he God fearing God loving them He does everything the tracks he DJ everything, you know radio station You know, that's all everything, you know, so everything you need I want to do so I Asked him, you know, not to teach me. I want to learn, you know, so he I wanted to learn so bad I wouldn't got the same exact keyboard. Yeah that he did because I want to do I didn't even know how to turn my keyboard on I didn't know the power the power cord, you know, how to connect that. I didn't know the button was in the back I didn't know it back then it was floppy. This I didn't know how to use the floppy disk Wow to show you how novice, you know, how much of a novice I was correct You know when it came in the producing he took me by the hand and taught me and taught me and taught me and two ways He was doing the things that was my he said I can teach you how to how to put it together But I can't teach you how to think, you know, so I can't teach you how to feel what you what you feel He said what you feel whatever and so I had to take what I feel and I knew a lot of stuff They would make people dance and move or whatever because I was a DJ or whatever I'm like I studied songs that make just even today like if I'm DJing in the club And I see a you know how they rock into a certain song like okay I gotta go do a do a song that's making them drums pop like that I mean you know because I know the elements of a song just like a chef when he eating something He can tell what's in it same thing with it with a producer. I can tell what kind of instruments was used Know that one up to make a hit so funny a b-king said the same thing. Yeah Exactly what he heard here songs different cause of the way his musical background exactly That's exactly right. You know I'm saying because you can you can tell what's going into it the bottom rhythm of it No, it doesn't necessarily have to be the speed of it You just speed up the hi-hats in the song and that'll make it move You know, it's just just little little little techniques and strategies that you can do with in a beat You know, it's in a lot. I like the kind of song I like 808 a lot doon doon doon, but I studied dr. Dre a lot doctor trade on the use a lot of 808s You don't hear that a lot from dr. Dre you hit knock that That's gonna hit That's like, you know, that's what dr. Dre uses because it's gonna hit it's gonna sound like gorillas in your trunk as opposed There's just your trunk vibing You're gonna hear a lot of hum bass. What did you think about because we talked about utk earlier? When when Pmc first start pushing that music and he was when you first hear Super super tight, but it was the one before that the first one. What did you think about? The you had to tell me some goods and all that I was totally amazed by Pmc It mess me up even when he was doing a lot stuff like big for Big Mike Yeah, I was sitting next to him when he when he was in the studio Yeah, I was sitting next to him in digital services at the studio when he was me say but I heard it before Big Mike You know saying and it's because I was we were in the single first So did he he was he just make the beat then he saw let me ask you this because this is a big thing Me and Bobo talk about Bobo talk Bobo Luciano. Shout out. He got super tight down in Dallas, too He named his whole podcast that When you Worked around Pmc. There's a big misconception or it may be the truth David Banner Bobo gets pretty much upset about this all the time Someone said it or said that he taught Pmc how to use a beat machine that I don't know he may I'm trying to understand. Okay, how was he making his music? That you were just talking about right without a beat machine about what I'm making beats How well how do you do that? Well, how do you make the beat? Okay? Well, I can see I don't I understand exactly what you're asking but my thing is To do okay. I'm not a pianist. Okay. I play Good enough to have my pianist My musicians to do what I need, you know, and they can take it to that next level whatever But it starts with the idea that I give them correct. So a Producer is more or less a conductor of the orchestra. Okay, that's the producer, you know, like prime example I have people that are I mean like major musicians that working in the same room You know some stuff I need to do I know all of their parts But they may not know each other's. Okay, you know, I'm saying like the bass player might not know to a certain extent What he I want the pianist to do this You know, I won't you know, even a horn player to do this part of whatever but I can hear a part for every one of them I'm like, okay in the break. I want you to come, you know, right there You make I'm gonna give it to me a little bit more busy right here Whatever just to signify that this is the break and not the normal main, you know, main You know main verse of chorus, you know stuff like that or whether this might be the bridge right there We're gonna rise up right here. You know, I know how did he make this fly hoes and he made that beat or how do you make that? Produce that sound. What did he do? Well, he did the track, you know So whatever and then he he just heard y'all get he heard what he heard to it That's what he was here. You know here into it, whatever and his the way he sang hooks was amazing the way he sang hooks was amazing and Bum, but you know bone would even tell you that like man You know bond doesn't have to tell me that he misses P.m. See you can tell now We know he missing that but I you know us. It's because bone is a phenomenal rapper. I mean phenomenal artist. He phenomenal Bond it's like making a it's like making up the I mean like the best-tasting cake you ever you know You ever taste in your life. It's missing the icing Well, you got I'm saying and that's my thing with that's real see cuz bonk and be I mean like we saw two people We just call him cameo kings Bombie and three two. Yeah, any one of them you can give bill good I give you lunch, you know, if we didn't want them on your song because they don't add down and you know, I Hear bond on anything like look at like a big tippin. Yeah, I don't care who you are Bunkin you know put did at work DJ burn one down in Atlanta said that bun showed him a lot when he come down his craft as well So my thing is but like for UG real strong UGK fans like myself You miss that pimp see coming with hook or you miss bent bun over a pimp beat, you know I'm saying you miss that Yeah, I think I can say we and you see it. You see it in his interviews I haven't got a chance to interview him yet, but you see it. I interview Steve B Lo I interview the Bobo's I and all of them say this about the fact of how The the pimp see, you know the way it affected them once pimp see passed away, you know I mean because it affected everybody and more so even when I interviewed Julia Beverly like it's like these people They they it's an empty spot there, of course Because of the impact that he brought to the game and to the music, you know what I mean right into their lives But the music was a big thing because that's their careers and right and for a bun, of course That's a that's a that's a big empty space man. Yeah, you can't replace it I mean well and because it was a sound that we were so used to man. I loved it. I loved it I Like a ball in mjg rock with both of them, you know sitting like a ball in mjg. I love them more together I know they both cold apart, but when I hear them together, it's just you wait on that one to punch They want to punch man. It's funny you funny you mentioned that cuz they had diverses down in Atlanta I was so upset about that. I wanted it to be here in Houston or somewhere in Texas could have been San Antonio I wanted that thing that cuz I know already the room and the energy and the way it was would have been different Right, absolutely. We had a lot of people. I was so I was so hurt behind because I'm a big fan of both of them That's right. I know Swabhouse was here and I know, you know, I know already the history of it You know you GK right up the street. What would it be pulled off on here? It might as well be here, right? I just think it would have been so dumb And I said I'm gonna tell you exactly what I said cuz people were saying man Because I said it should have been in Houston and they were like no man because that wouldn't have been fair That's what everybody's a PA. I say no, that's not right because bond was here You know people, you know, I know they from PA. I know a baller, you know, say mjg, you know Say it from see right, right? I know they from I know they from Memphis out there But they but Swabhouse was here. That's right. It was kind of like a home away from home for both of us That's right. That's right. That's right being Houston. And that would have been so hard I don't even know they could oh my goodness It would have been crazy easy and they would have made for a better versus shout out to Bobo The energy I'm gonna say Bobo again. You gonna tell me uh, they it was they they was so busy picking up They phones and I'm like man Nigga picked a phone up all the time the energy was off because it wasn't in Houston I was only but well my thing is you can't it's hard to if you're watching Energy that's not there. It's hard to you know, create recreate energy Yeah But if you just think about it a lot of times when you you at a concert You could be anywhere at a show or something or whatever and if they lit For some reason even whether you know the music a lot you lit because you had a place There's lit. Yeah, if you're watching something that is not really projecting energy It's hard to get crunk all by yourself Yeah And so that's why it didn't make for such a good, you know, like a crunk versus because you we wasn't we wasn't really watching energy I always tell other artists and you know, you know like artists that I'm I'm trying to mentor and things like that Whatever the crowd would never be more lit than you are So make sure you out there giving it your all when you're a thing I mean like if I'm out there just dead weight just you know You know seeing the lyrics to my song whatever now a letter whatever what they gonna get crunk for And you knew this from being a DJ you learn all of that well and I saw I've been in this 30 years too You know I'm saying so it I mean I've seen all the hits and misses. Let me ask you this I got it. I gotta ask you this like when you seen it When you seen bun trying to you know, basically show homage pay homage to pump again because it was almost like a Hummage paying event for me. You could see that if he had the shirt on but it was like man I know it's like we miss pimp this whole thing to me is about we miss Pimp see right, right? Versus Maybe I'm just a big fan, but I'm like it's paying short homage and paying homage to him But it's supposed to be a thing what ain't going back and forth with these songs But it became a thing to me where that empty spot just meant like dang man It made me feel away. Well, you'd have got the same thing if one of them was missing too That's right. You know so my thing is because you can't recreate you or you can't substitute for The attitude or whatever they would give you a you know the performance that they would give you know Pimp would have been out there acting a fool. It would have been so, you know He'd have been out there lit. It would have been there would have been crazy You know saying so that can't that can't be substituted for you know That you can put up as many pictures posters videos or whatever in the background You can do all of that you that you want it still doesn't you know, it doesn't really substitute for that You know what you mean? I want to ask you about I want to ask you about something else I want to try to talk about these youngsters for a minute. Okay. I'm gonna say youngsters cause I'm gonna start with be king. All right be king like okay When you've seen him come on the scene versus when you know the way you guys originally done it What was your thoughts on the way? He absolutely love it because it takes he was different. I love different Yeah, he said in his interview He said in his interview when he came in because he's Houston Everybody else was you know screwed down slowed up. Whatever didn't have like a whole bunch of energy Right, and that's why he did what he did to be different and bring all of that in a place that didn't know nothing else I love it. I mean he is a club killer. I'm DJing. I'm playing all his records So I love it to death. This is my motto with anything if you do what you've always done You're gonna get what you always got so my thing is, you know, even for myself, you know I wouldn't be you know, God has blessed me to be here and be relevant. I've I've paid my bills Three decades straight with music. Well, I mean like every 30 years no fall off And my thing in the reason why is because I always dare to reinvent myself I'm not trying if you know because people used to always say man, I can tell that's a little track Okay, can you tell now? You understand what I'm saying because I don't do what I used to do Wow, you know because and the only reason is because what I used to do may not work right now You know like one of the most popular songs like I produces big pokies. Who that man who they're talking down If I came out with a beat product I'm talking about using the same drums and all this kind of stuff like that the same exact beat that same track and Drop it tomorrow. It wouldn't have an impact on the industry that it would today because the whole 99 who they're talking down and I'm a T was crazy I'm a T was T was real crazy. I'm sure you how you know because I love I love Jammas, you know, I got three stages. I love jamming. We all jamming if we wouldn't jamming We wouldn't be trying to do this music anyway That the difference is you got jammers You got hits you got classics that song is a classic. I just got a what's today Friday? I just got a check for who they're talking down Wednesday. I've been getting them since 2000 Hmm, I've been getting brought to chicks every 90 days since the year 2000 It did 22 years. That's my point. It didn't been in Dark Angel. Orange is the new black Entourage, you know saying or whatever, you know, I'm sorry I have three W twos that I have to fill out for food for that song. So I mean like what the songs and songs are like, you know, so different different You know companies and stuff like that different broadcasts and stations and all this kind of stuff like that because of the publishing and all that My thing is I have songs that I've made 10 years You know Since then that the checks and feels pretty much fills it out because you know, they didn't get the push And they didn't get yet. Yeah, they didn't get the traction traction. That's what I'm trying to get the traction that that song got So my thing is I'm in I'm in this for the for the hits in the classics And that's the term, you know, they all can be jamming all they want to But the term is the hits in the classics is the success and attraction like you're saying other song I mean it for them I was just talking about something like that earlier because I was thinking about remember when I mentioned about Michael Jackson, right? I said everybody's supposed to strive to be like Michael Jackson where hits are concerned because right this generation or kids kids go still know who Michael Jackson is and it It just blows my mind that these young kids I'm like, how you know Michael Jackson when you were born he might not even be alive at that time But you know him right your kids gonna know absolutely. That's what everybody I think should right It's because of the success of his work, you know, I'm saying the word I mean that your work should I live you and I was always, you know, I This is the reason for publishing to begin with For me. I always you know, because I mentor, you know, I'm in the mentor stage now I mentor these artists I mentor these producers and all that I tell them never get out the car You never get out, you know, like don't ever and what I mean by that is never sell all your rights You know, you know, all of your rights straight up for you know, whatever because Publishing is good not only for your natural life, but it's good for 70 years after you die 1770 70 they is good for 70 years after you die and People a lot of artists that don't do their homework and don't do their research and all of that They don't know that so they just try to hit a quick lick for today But you you know, you probably You probably take care of somebody's family beyond their own life. You know, Sam What about a sauce Walker? I'm in Houston, Texas So what do you what do you think about the way that they're music and the way that they're doing things? I love the dead because I'm just talking about these guys and I'm a team of T1 I'm just sending, you know, and my my deal is I love all of the new, you know All of the new artists that data take our music, you know, whatever I know y'all get ready to talk to propane, but he's one of them Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean, I love these people that that come in and just take it to that next level I'm just having fun sitting back sitting seeing it go just go to that next level, you know It's like it's crazy like man, you know Wow, things that we didn't do somebody else is doing now and they gonna do you know, and they gonna sit back and see the same thing I'm gonna ask you about DJ Chos too. I'm asking about producers because that's your line. Absolutely. Absolutely. So how was I have you ever Work with DJ Chos or man. I never have one more thing. I want to say about sauce Walker. Come on back with it. Okay. I Love also that, you know, like just like Kiki is doing or whatever I love how they they take it the entrepreneurship to the next level and get do the merch thing I love it, you know, like however we can take this and make that I'm with that, you know, because it all ties back into, you know, it's a big brand It's brand. It's brand. Exactly. That's all I was saying. You know, I'm gonna ask you about DJ Chos You know, he had a soundtrack in the fast and the furious and he's got a lot of different things That he knew in a lot of different ways then then sauce and then and then then be king But just these younger generation and them can you you got to be proud of those guys? Well, man, it's indeed. That's indeed I mean, I that's what I'm saying. I'm one of the guys that, you know, like like they say the OG's whatever that I mean, I get with the youngsters and be down with them, you know I'm like man, because I'm you know, I'm a music fan first and foremost You know, I'm DJing in the club. So I'm playing these I know what's hot out there Whatever with you know from my own people that I you know I kick it with and I'll either the circles that I'm in or whatever not and I know what's hot out there Whatever and I'm just you know, I'm just grateful that they have taken our industry to that next level Don't let it feels allowed. Don't let it die out of it because they were people before me So, you know, I wanted to be embraced. That's why I embraced, you know The youngsters didn't you know, like they pretty much say like the new Houston the new sound, you know, whatever, you know And they like man, he wanted pioneers that's used to sound. Yeah, that's cool. That's cool. Find it in it But it doesn't have to stay right there. Wow What you know, how y'all gonna update the new sound, man So, you know the same you know saying, you know, I don't I'm not one of those guys that say the sound had to stay Like we had it. No, man. I don't even do it do it the same way no more. Yeah You know, I'm saying why I'm not, you know, I'm trying to wear the music is okay I'm you know, I don't copy but I do compete, you know, I'm saying and that's the thing with me I don't know. Okay. What I was going to see still DJ right now. I DJ right now So, okay, you've been doing this for such a long time Mm-hmm. And we do this in this business not everybody gonna like you and you're not gonna like everybody Have you ever DJed where an artist that was gonna perform or be there? You didn't read a fool with but you had to still DJ his songs That is that that's happened a whole lot of times because my it's not even about the artists at that point if I'm DJing It's about the crowd that I'm participating. You know, I mean that I'm actually Serving, you know, it's in the crowd that I'm performing for so I've done it so many different times with that at that point it's not you know, I don't I'm not one of them guys like I don't like it I ain't playing this record because I'm not really getting you try to sabotage him by I'm not with this because I've heard different things I've heard somebody else came on our show and was like the DJ slowed it down Yeah, or the DJ sped it up instead of doing exactly how it's right. I don't like that because number one I'm an artist myself. I rap I produce. You know, I engineer I do it all whatever and I'm the last person that once You know that done to me. So I never would do a artist even if you don't like no No, it has nothing to do with that. If it's a hit song they have okay I Pretty much don't have artists that I don't like anyway, you know Because I'm the guy that's gonna pull you to the side and see what our difference is man Let's watch this especially if I got to see you all the time That's gonna make it uncomfortable for you know an awkward for both of us So let's go ahead knock that out the bud You know, I'm gonna knock that out the way because we can both probably make money together Especially if you're a hot artist. I don't you the last person I want to be you know, like like into it with anyway What's it so that's that that's the thing me because I want to I want to rock with the crowd You know, it's about playing for your audience. You know I'm saying so I'll squash that just to make sure that I'm you know I'm hot out there. What's the hottest song? 2022 the hottest song in the club when you play it He rupted the club. I know other it's so I mean, I don't want to hear that I don't want to hear that. I mean, it's You do a cup Two songs You go to the club and people are diving with whatever you playing like what's my hot record and you know that if you play this song everybody gonna turn up What is that song you pull for But that the hottest song in 2022 young doff I can always you know like that can always just You know because everybody people missing young doff like that anyway, and I can always you know like it just it just turns You know a lot of times I use preach to like change the vibe if I'm I've been the rockin I don't do it mean something like that. Don't go. Oh, yeah I just use that to flip the script because they know I'm feeling I'm about to come with some trap a drill or what? You know, I'm saying yeah, you know, I'm I'm just gonna flip the script with that You know, no matter how that song being old you say a couple of years or whatever each. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, that's all Yeah, what about you know, but but I can rock. I don't I can okay on the daddy's thing I could bring that big tuck it cuz I got hold that is it to you know saying oh clip. That's my hood I can start you know, I can do do that do a set. Yeah, I got it even here in Houston while you're playing Even in Houston while you're here Yeah I can just I can just rock with that. Oh They killed it Everybody ain't your friend and all of the you know, even though he got all his other his songs, but that and what's his hottest song to you? Him and Kevin Gates I like like I like that song He got some man. He got I like a lot of mode three. I just you know his engineering is Unbelievable though his engineering is off is through the rocker. I mean out through the roof You know, it's off the rocker. I mean like yeah, he's engineering and what I mean by that his song The weight of songs is mixing master the world because I listen to everything technical because I'm an engineer myself So wow. Yeah, who else who I was mixing the master this song they going to work. Wow so The thing that really sticks out to me is that you you've been down here You've been working you work with slim and all these guys Well, I've done tracks that's never yeah, I've worked with him when I was with boss this as well, too But you don't work with everybody if there's been any people that you hadn't touched down here Well, I'm getting ready to work with him Always talk about it now. I'm like man, I got to give me a propane song man Man, I said I love I love it used to vibe what you guys do down here, man I've been grow. I grew up to it. Yeah, so I mean so thank you for everything that you done How can how do people get a hold to you if they're trying to get a hold to you Well, let me say it like this on my Instagram is at Harvey love and Harvey love is spelled h a r v e y L u v all one word Harvey love Harvey love. Yes, it's not L o v No, no, no, you see L u v V Absolutely, and you look up Harvey love you're gonna everything is gonna come up because my my number is actually public information So Harvey just you you just Google Harvey love and a lot of come up or whatever So, you know, we normally do this, you know top three Artists artists of all time dead or alive and in genre. Okay, so I'm trying to think do I want to do Do we want to do produce stuff all time or do we want to do artists of all times? Which one bae is gonna be by you sir of all time or artists of all time I would say all right. Just just give us this dude top three It's gonna be scar face. He's gonna be already gonna be our face No, cuz he said it number two It's gonna be Cabe Reno if you know, you know, we're gonna rap we're going rappers. No any genre Henry genre. Okay top three artists of all time Okay genre is it's hard to cut it under three everybody's done it Lord Okay, it's scarf is still your number one Since it's any genre. I'm just trying to put it out there. Yes. He's one but I Okay, no, no, no, he's not one. Oh, no, he's one of them. Okay No, nobody no nobody is more talented to me than Michael Jackson Okay, Michael Jackson, you know, I'm saying and you know and and my thing is it's it's I'm doing a disservice We already know I see Dancing if you give okay Who I dance who I think Michael Jackson will outdance Chris Brown in his heyday. I ain't saying like Michael Jackson was cold. He was I'm talking about like he popped you he did it all These young niggas Different kind of dances that are that come in style. Well, if you look today dancing is dancing You know, I mean because you have so much, you know, you got battle dancing you got I mean like it's so many I'm in and I'm in man. I'm so I'm just who's your number two. Okay Come on. Okay. Okay. Well faced I'm facing Michael Jackson. Okay Number three Okay, oh Because that's that's your top three. I know it's very wide your top three Whatever your reasons are that you put it all around top three all around Whatever. Oh my god, whether it brings back a childhood or whether you know, that's the person you put over the same Face Okay Exactly Exactly you I bet you already knew what I was going this man knew how to play 27 instruments. I mean self-talk You see and can sing I'm somebody had had a eight-part harmony as long as we've been doing this Everybody's done. A lot of people have done Michael Jackson, but it's always to park right behind it To park ain't better than Prince. I didn't he my feet one of my goats. He better than Prince. Oh my god This track let me see what I got here see if I got I Was vibing on it ari Zendall Neil yesterday and so we're not Man, I'm gonna do that tomorrow. What I would have did yesterday, but I was just you know busy. Oh, yeah I was busy whatever, but I just went on and did it today. Wow Thank you so much appreciate you man. It's a little bro. I love Man, hey man say man. We love you, brother Man, love y'all right back man. Say man ticket man. It's been another great segment of boss talk one-on-one Down in Houston, Texas, man. Absolutely what a boss is talk