 Welcome to Toffy TV We're here to talk about a couple of articles that have appeared this week in The Athletic written by Greg O'Keefe and Paddy Boyland If you want to sign up for the athletic Do we because it is very very good very very good some of the best writers in the world dedicated content for Everton football club none of that Nonsense no pop-ups nowhere clickbait nonsense that you see anywhere else some really really good stuff Stories that matter about Everton football club. So if you want to check that out the link is in the description You get there's a 30 day free trial and then it's 50% off for the year The link is in the description as I said and it's it's well worth it And we're gonna as you go to hear from we're gonna talk about a couple of stories There's a really good story last week actually that we should have spoke about which was a brilliant interview with Kevin Morales from Paddy Which is really really good, which we should have spoke about but we didn't but we're gonna speak about this We're gonna speak about the article that appeared this week in the athletic regarding the training ground and how The clear the air talks surrounding the last couple of weeks after evidence for defeating a row and How things have changed with a combination of the manager Talking to the players and having meetings and clearing the air and stuff Yeah, it was a good article and it was a bit of an insight because we haven't you don't really get no that anymore with with Jane let's or even and you know what Everton Everton it's a blame for this as well because they don't give us Enough stuff from we've seen as it happens now. We've seen an interview But it's only nine minutes with Marco Silva But you know the club I'm open the club up another another couple of them, but that was behind And the paywall so to speak she had to be a season ticker older or a member to view it So but we've said before and I think this is one of the problems that some supporters have with Marco Silva They just don't know so it's about Getting to you know, what does he what is principles? What does he want to do? You know, what's he like on the training ground away from it? And this article that Paddy and Greg had co-written actually Gives a little bit of insight in the build-up to the West Ham game and obviously on the back of the West Ham performance and You know, I think it's really interesting To hear about the cleat, you know that clear the air talks which to be honest Though kind of talks are going all the time really at a football club But I think sometimes when it got as bad as it did You know, I think the managers probably realized that it's backs against the world You know, he really is he's in it. He's in a difficult situation. It's not there's no two ways about it I think some of the players, you know, I've got a stand-up and be counted they're not doing what they should be doing So to get that break in the international, you know, window and try to have a look at what's gone on Maybe they've him and the coaching staff have had a look at a few things got the players back Let the players say what they think's going wrong and then try to come to a happy medium It's good to see that that's taking place of everything because I think some people started believing and it was written in the Depress as well that he's very stubborn and he's got his own ways and he doesn't listen to certain things over ever Whether that's right or wrong the minute someone's written it it becomes yeah out there doesn't it? So this was a more balanced I think the problem is though like you just mentioned there that if there's nothing coming out out from the club or out from We're not seeing or hearing things then that those gaps get filled now very very quickly And we've seen that a lot of things with everything Regarding whether it be the players the manager or the potential new stadium. It all just gets filled and and when there's it's quiet You know you all I a diss and I a doubt. We've seen all that nonsense in the last few weeks Especially when things are not going well and think What was interesting out the article what it was, you know quite clear that and it was all Adulcombe from good sources and and Found very interesting that obviously was interesting That's the weekend some players did when called up and stay behind played in the game against Wigan and Then when the players came back the it's you know We get to choose between the day after they come back to three o'clock of the father club But he got them in three o'clock all of them He sat down there the meeting one of the first things he spoke about was the was the was the mark and Zonal marking and Senior player senior defender saying no, we want we want to try my mark and we want to go from some to do something different And that was quite interesting because Michael Silver's always done zonal marking But if the players were telling him, I don't really have a problem with zonal marking I think if it's done right and players are switched on Then it can be done And the reason teams like doing it is because you don't have to set up for different teams You can just do what you want to do but the players obviously feel that may be the make-up of the other players Doesn't lead to a Set up that works for everyone So they they wanted to go back to man to man mark and which they did to the West Ham game And you don't part didn't he part of man and part zonal and for the most part in the West Ham game It seemed to work. Okay. They nearly scored from one corner, but there's a lot of factors contributing to that You know shouldn't have been a corner Sadibi was off the pitch. It was a little bit of a scramble getting them on the pitch and you know, so But I do think that Reading something like this and seeing that it is a combined effort and it's not just the case of Well, the manager has a his way because Ultimately that would be the downfall of the manager the manager being too stubborn to change the way he's doing things When the players are asking for it just when yeah, and the fact that the players of Are able to speak their mind and say right these are the things that I think we think we need to sort out And that's what you need from a from a group as well You need group you need a group and leaders in the group to stand up and say this isn't good enough We need to make this change ourselves but ultimately the You know the the go-aheads got to come from the manager Well, yeah, I mean no, I'm quite sure all the best teams throughout the world and even peps team You know use what's the all or nothing documentary players have input all the time You know Fabian Delphine particularly in that documentary Vincent company people like that have inputting What they think they need to be doing right or wrong now a manager might Take some of it on board and go. Yeah, you're right. They we need to do that But ultimately stick to his principles That's fine because you can't be President doing things you don't think works But if the players aren't comfortable doing what you're asking them to do that has to be some bend and give And if that's what's happened in saying now listen, let's not my two corners Yeah, so I don't think we can sit there and go oh, it was great. I'm answering my mark I'll solve everything. We don't know. Well, there'll be a much more of a test this weekend However, it looks like yet. He means not gonna play so that'll throw up something different again Mason Holgate coming in but We have to you know, you have to trust in the manager That he's the he's there to learn as well. He's a young manager He's got to trust his players and they go to trust them and how do you build trust by working together? You don't build the trust by going you do everything I say or it's you know, my way or the highway so to speak He'll have a clear line, but they should as plays they're the ones playing the game So they feel like this will work better if we do this this or this and he's open to that Why not it's not working what we were trying before So why not try and it wasn't just the zone of mark and obviously we don't know whether people have you know players have said We need to be more attacking or we need you know, you don't know what was said other than He looked at every little thing and he come up with a different way to approach the game last Saturday against West Ham and it Yeah, and obviously there's other factors as well players coming into the side and Seeing what would work best against against the West Ham side and how Who would be what would be the best fit for the system? I will be targeted like declaration things that we got mentioned as well But also leaders, you know mentioned in the article on Tom Davis and how you know He's mentioned as an animal around Finch farm and how hard he trains and how much of a leader is in the dressing room now and how vocal he is and and You know we come sat he didn't let us down at all and it's it that's another interesting side It's like you'll see in the characters. We don't always see the characters of the player we see on a match day players team out new obviously very very professional and Have to put across the same persona But knowing you know laying in that Tom Davis is elite is a leader amongst men after inch farming That's really important and I think that's something that you know I think patiently the club needs to get over more and more and more to fans who think who some club Yeah, some fans just don't think he's a good enough player and not it's interesting as well as saying that He's very much a leave. He's very much a player for the present, but also the future He just has to get that consistency Well, he's not gonna get consistency if he doesn't play games for a start But it's interesting obviously he had played two in England under 21 games off the back of that so That's that's Again laying them laying them more about players and humanizing them isn't a bad thing In fact, it's a good thing and it's something again everything should be doing more and more and more about You know, I would love to see you know, you mention me for them. I'd say I'd love to see a documentary about everything and and and how people tick behind the scenes and how people are in training obviously we've got a very glossy Videos of in training and last season a lot of fans where said how good, you know, seeing these videos of in the tunnel and and during the weekend training and but again even that at times can be just a little bit too Glossy, I suppose so Really interesting article and the article I followed on was about Theo Wolcott and saying how You know, he's a player that has had to look at himself in a few weeks It's for the few weeks and sitting since the Wolf's game when he was out the squad starting to question why He wasn't in the squad and what he had to do and a lot of people Were shocked by the fact that he was in the Man City Starting to him and obviously he got the injury and that's a couldn't play and obviously the bain again But then started in this game And it almost feels like what it feels like he's got that hunger back He's put next and working in training according to the article. He's in the gym more He's on the training field more. He's got a desire to be part of the Everton team And when we talk about starting 11s and getting it on Merritt That's one of the factors, isn't it? That's one of the factors about being in the Everton team is that you're doing it in training and you're showing that manager That you should be in the team. Yeah, I mean as fans we put Likely so I suppose but we put most of our emphasis on the match, you know But what we forget sometimes is that the judge don't want to do all week, you know We just look and go there are best 11 players they should play and that's fine but For all we know two of our best 11 players are crapping training and putting it in and working on whatever I think any Football any lad who's ever played a woman who's ever played footy and is out the team You're frustrated because you want to play and then you have to look at how you get back in them for professionals It's very difficult The only thing you can do is knuckle down and get your head Right, you know, and I think I think sometimes for pros It's seems and for fans like on the outside looking at it like players are just too comfortable And we just do this and we can just do that. So it's great when you hear one that had to examine what he's doing Right and work doubly hard to get back and you should never stop wanting to learn ever as a footballer If they are well caught 30 right, he's still dead quick. He could still cause a lot of problems He could still be an important evidence squad member now. I'm not trying He should play every week, but if he plays like he did at the weekend Then why shouldn't he play every week because it's up to someone to get better than him to get in the team So I like the fact that he's been He's been shocked enough to be out the squad to have a response If he trains that hard though, that's going to make other people train just as hard to say You know in the asco as well as they sustain like how hard Sniderland saying and how hard Tom Davies saying and Theo Walker It's important that every single player Feels like there's a chance to get in the team if they're working hard and they're showing the manager and training They're giving them something to think about and it isn't just the same 11 week in week out We've criticized Michael Silver saying he last season in tougher spells for not using more players in the first team For all I know that might come down to not enough plays in training or showing that he's a Well he I mean last season he had that there was a little bit of an excuse that it felt like he didn't trust more than 13 or 14 plays Wasn't the right thing to do? But where did that trust come from though? It's the performance Maybe the lack of performance in training If you look at someone like Adam Ola Lucho and that people Saying maybe he could have done more because we could have done more with them For the last two years what he's been doing in training And what he's doing in training at Leipzig where he's not getting in the side either You play one game a week generally maybe two at a push But you're training the rest of the week You're getting paid to put the hard work in day in and day out in the training pitch And this is a manager who feels like that's a big part of where his team selection comes from If he has to make minor calls in terms of This was something David Moyes was very big on You set your standards Monday to Friday What you're going to do Saturday You can't coast in the week and then somehow turn it on at the weekend Maybe Messi can but I don't know Best plays in the world But I also think this comes from I think this comes from also preseason as well There's no coincidence that the players who tend to think Add bad pre-seasons who almost coast through pre-seasons Having a good start to the season they've just continued that Not saying they're not working hard But sometimes it's that you need that job Maybe changing the side And giving these players a reminder that there is competition People have been calling for it for the few weeks But now it's happened maybe because the manager feels like he's had a couple of weeks To have a think about things But it's so important I think that The players first start having an input And telling the manager what they think works and what doesn't work And then the manager decides what's best for the team Based on all the information you've got The truth lies to that If you're a player and you want to voice your opinion And you think the manager is going to listen You're going to respect that manager more Because he's taken on board what you're saying He's not always going to agree with you Because managers look at things differently than players do As a player you're looking at the selfish point of view The manager's going to look at the whole team and how it all fits together But if you feel like your voice isn't heard That's going to demotivate you And you're going to start thinking I've got to clean this fella and he hasn't got this and that And they're at and drift football it doesn't it Look at the end of Martin as he's playing The famous image of him telling beans or unfilting beans Just looking like anywhere else and blowing As if to say what are you talking about So players are like that And then the second thing as well When you're talking about setting standards on the training ground And going out and working hard and feeling like you can get in Four lads out of our academy now training with the first team Now it's about setting them Their standards when they go in Now if they walk over, they get called over Which is a big thing I've just seen the training video with Morgan Feeney He's gone in there because obviously Jeremy is not training With the first team He's gone in there If he sees players wandering around And not really putting their in over ever Then you start You go to what you have to do You play at that level so to speak You go into a new job and people are like I can take the first year People start doing it because You don't know what I mean So if you go in like Anthony Gordon's there every day Had an air and Lewis Gibson They see it's 100%, 100% Their development will go up Because they have to remain with that first team They have to perform at this level Whereas if it's just come over here There's no point in trying here Because then 11 play every week anyway It sets the wrong message So that's what I found interesting about those two articles That it does seem to be a bit of a two way communication I hope that continues I hope the players continue to do that Because if that happens And they work together There's more chance that this manager will get More right than wrong But if he just thinks it's me Or it's my way or the highway so to speak Very quickly players And at every club The manager's out the door Because it's easier to get to the one than 20 So let's hope that they've trained this A little bit of a corner but we're going now will we Let's hope they have Yeah, and players are just Listen, as long as players are working hard I think the quality will normally come to Well it will We'll win and lose games But if they're working hard They'll win more than they lose In the story, there you go Couple of great articles as I said It's on the athletic If you want to check that out The link is in the description Lots of brilliant effort and coverage And there's coverage of all teams And football and general There's some great stories on there No clickbait No it's not The proper sports articles Really Andy, that's the difference There you go So make sure you click the link in the description If you want to check 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