 Call to order. This is the 17th regular meeting of the 2010-2011 Common Council, and as is customary, our deputy city clerk, Linda Long, will read the quote of the evening. Working together, coming together is a beginning. Keeping together is progress. Working together is success. Thank you, Linda. Roll call, please. Born. Here. Folk. Here. Bowers. Here. Decker. Here. Heidemann. Excuse. Kath. Here. Kittleson. Here. Montemior. Here. Rinpleige. Here. Grisler. Here. Sampson. Here. Vandereel. Here. Bursey. Here. Wongerman. Here. 15. We have a quorum. Alderman Bauch is going to lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance, and then he would like to say a few words after he's done with the pledge, and then Alderman Wongerman would like to address the council. There is one. Would you have your microphone? Yes, sir. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Cory. If you'd like to, please do. Alderman Bauch would like to say a few words. You can build. Oh. Alderman Wongerman. I guess you get the first dibs on saying a few words. Okay. Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor. I just wanted to remind everybody, of course, that tomorrow is December 7th, and December 7th is significant in the history of this country, in that it changed America overnight. Never again would we be the same country we were before. I want to talk just briefly about a young man, by the name of Charles C. Ehler. He was in a Navy. He was a signalman third class, stationed on board the Arizona. He wasn't supposed to be on duty that morning because he had switched with a friend of his, who was ashore on personal business. Charles C. Ehler's position on Arizona was high atop of a mast on the ship that they referred to as a cage mast, and there were a signal bridge built up there, and this is where Charles was working. On the morning that the Arizona was struck, one of the first bombs that struck the vessel hit the signal bridge, and he was immediately listed missing in action. He's significant to us because Charles C. Ehler was from Sheboygan. He was the first, or had the dubious honor, I guess, of saying that he was the first a man from Sheboygan County to lose his life in World War II. And it's a name today that's pretty well forgotten all over, but he's listed on the Arizona Memorial. And if you go to the Arizona Memorial today, Charles Ehler is still there on duty. He, him and 1,177 of his comrades, still manned the Arizona, which is still listed as a fully registered U.S. naval ship. Every time the naval ship passes, they do the proper honors, dip their flag, and so forth. But I just wanted to remember that, wanted everyone to remember that Sheboygan County was affected very early in the war, and Charles Ehler's war lasted just five minutes. Thank you. Thank you, Bill. Alderman Boak. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I appreciate the opportunity to speak tonight. I appreciate the Council suggesting that last time. I appreciate the Mayor for putting it on the agenda. And I appreciate Alderman Boak of his comments too. Mine will be much less significant than the sacrifices that were made that day. I want to talk just for a moment about, I was surprised and disappointed by the budget vote. I wasn't able to be here, but that's the way it goes. My side lost. That's the way the system works. The last election, the party or the side, the philosophy of lower taxes and less government took the governorship, took Madison. The side of lower taxes and less government took the state Senate. The side of lower taxes and less government kicked a guy out of the assembly who's been voting the other philosophy for a long, long time. But the politicians those voters sent last time completely ignored that condition and the current will of the voters. All four of the taxing authorities here in Sheboygan, Sheboygan County, the city of Sheboygan, the Sheboygan Area School District and LTC. All four of them ignored the current will of the voters and raised your taxes. It's like we were California. It's like we were the only part of the country that didn't get the message, those people we elected last time. So, but the system worked. Again, as I said, didn't go my way but we voted and that's what's great about America. My side lost but that illustrates the power of elections. Elections matter. Elections really matter. The people you elected last time to these seats caved into union pressure and voted not to save the city $84,000 a year on something as common and simple as cleaning city hall. That's one police officer not on the streets next year because we couldn't privatize something as simple as cleaning city hall. The people you elected last time to these seats passed a tax hike to fund the library at a level because of demagoguery about something about the fall of the Western world if we didn't have ESLS. The people you elected last time in the Aldermanic election moved money around in this budget like it's a shell game in order to avoid tackling what are the root causes of why we have budget problems in this city and in many cities around America. But that's my opinion, that's my philosophy and that philosophy that government run organizations have become burdensome and expensive and that's not happened overnight, that's happened over decades. I and others were elected four years ago to bring some business discipline and some business processes to the way we run our government and that philosophy got me elected and got me reelected. But there's another philosophy out there. There's a philosophy that says the way we've always done it is okay. In fact, the way we've always done it is an entitlement. The city workers, especially represented ones, should be immune from the forces acting on our taxpayers. And that these 300 or 400, 300 people ought to be overcompensated by 40%. Those are US government numbers. Overcompensated by 40% why? Because they want it. In one of the union negotiations, the phrase was, those guys that went to Kohler and to Thomas Industries, they chose that job, we chose this job and this job comes with predictable big benefit increases and wage increases and we want it. That was their rationale. They chose that job, they wanted the bennies. So my four years as an alderman will be concluded in 133 days, but who's counting, right? There's an election coming up and the purpose for me speaking tonight isn't just to talk about philosophy, it's to talk about to the citizens of Sheboygan, there are going to be 10 open aldermanic seats in April, 10. 10 sixteenths of this group will look different, very possibly in April. That's significant, very rarely does it get that high. That will be a sweeping change for the way this city is run. The other philosophy, the big government philosophy is gonna pack the slate with their people. They have political operatives here locally that are funded by their money from Washington and their money from Madison. Political operatives in this town to get people with their philosophy elected. They have money and they have foot soldiers. They even have websites, you can go to the union websites to the political action pages and get whole manuals on how to run a campaign, how to win a campaign. And did I mention money and foot soldiers? Meanwhile, people who see the world with my philosophy, the way I see the world, they're busy running businesses. They're busy keeping their businesses afloat, frankly today, trying to just keep up. They're creating jobs so they can pay more taxes to fund this bloated government we run. So my plea to you tonight is, if you have a financial education, if you run a business, if you are an accountant, if you're a lawyer, we need you. If you are in financial services, we need you. If you run a small business, we need you on this council. If you've taken a business that was broken and fixed it, we need you. If you've taken a business that was okay and made it a great business, we need you. If you're retired and have done any of that stuff, we really need you because you have time. I wanna address two things and then I'll wrap up. Has to do with workload. For those candidates out there that are busy running businesses and paying taxes, you may be worried about the workload. It's really manageable. Many of the members of the council right now have jobs outside of their aldermanic duties. Both mayors have always been very respectful of my time and have kept me. I've told them I could be on a forward time for one committee and they both always respected that. Committees have worked around my work schedule so you can do the workload if you have a day job. There's a little learning curve at first but you can manage it on eight, maybe 10 hours a week once you get into the groove. The other thing is about the campaign. The campaign's a little bit of work. So I will say to people out there who have money and foot soldiers, if you're with the Sheboygan County Taxpayers Alliance, candidates that have your philosophy need your help. If you are with the Greater Sheboygan Committee, candidates with your philosophy need your help because the other side, they've got money and they've got foot soldiers. And then the last thing about being an alderman that I'll address is about the publicity. A lot of candidates that are busy running businesses and have lives in the community, they're worried about the stuff they read about in the newspaper. And for my part, I probably bring a lot of that on myself. I participate vocally in the paper. I write letters. I say controversial things and hope that it'll tweet conversations. But you don't have to do it that way. If that's not your style, most of the people on this council right now get so much more done than I do by what happens in the committees. You don't see their names in the papers but they're doing very good work. They're getting votes figured out in the committee. They're entertaining ideas in the committee and bringing them to us. So if your deal is I don't wanna end up in the paper like all those people that end up in the paper, you can be very effective and not end up in the paper. Let me say that. So in wrapping things up, and I appreciate it, Mr. Mayor, next year your taxes are going up and the years after that, they're going up again to fund even higher wages and benefits for about 300 already over benefited employees. Not because those employees have exceeded expectations, not because they've created a new money saving process and shifted to less labor intensive methods like we do in business. They're gonna raise your taxes just because well, they want it, they want your money and they're gonna get candidates that have that philosophy on all 10 of those ballots. The side that always answers the budget question with higher taxes, those candidates will be well funded and will be well supplied with foot soldiers that have a very narrow set of solution ideas. What the city needs is candidates with an education and experience to make businesses and operations better. I believe that we get the government we deserve. We get the government we deserve. If you're a candidate out there that has my philosophy, we need you to get engaged. That's my philosophy and if it's your philosophy, Shaboygan needs you. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Corey. Okay, moving on, we are looking for approval of the minutes of the prior common council meeting, President Kittison. Thank you, Mayor. I move to approve the minutes of the last council meeting. Second. We have a motion and a second to approve the minutes under discussion. If there is none, all in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Resignations, Attorney McLean. Thank you, Your Honor. I have a letter from Mike Van der Steen advising that due to the fact that he's undergoing ankle surgery next week and his recovery time won't permit him to attend for several months. He's resigning as citizen member of the government structure committee. That lies over. And we have Mayor's appointments, Attorney McLean. Honorable members of the council, hereby submit the following appointment for your. Excuse me, Steve. I'm sorry, we do need to vote on the resignation of Mike Van der Steen that doesn't lie over. President Kittleson. Move to approve the appointment. Resignation. I mean, the resignation. Move to accept the resignation. Thank you. Second. We have a motion and a second to accept the resignation. Any discussion? If there is none, all in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Sorry, Steve. Everybody submit the following appointment for your consideration. Robert Ryan to be appointed to the tax increment mental district to number 14 joint review board signed by the mayor. Does anybody need a resume or anything on this one? That lies over. Confirmation of appointments? Yes, we have confirmation. Henry Shane to be considered for appointment to the mayor's international committee termed to expire for 30 2011 signed by the mayor. Alderman Boren requested some background on Henry Shane. Henry's wife Anna is on the international committee. Has been for years, went with us to Essling in our sister city this past spring. And Henry gets involved in a lot of the mayor's international committee activities. He's helped us out quite a bit. And being the husband of Anna, we'd like him to be on the committee also. So that's all about Henry. Yes, we have a motion to confirm. A motion to confirm his appointment. Second. Motion and a second under discussion. If there is none, roll call please. Bulk? Aye. Bowers? Aye. Decker? Aye. Hammond? Aye. Hanna? Aye. Katt? Aye. Kittleson? Aye. Montemayor? Aye. Rindflash? Aye. Useler? Aye. Samson? Aye. Banderweald? Aye. Bursey? Aye. Longamen? Aye. Boren? Aye. 15. Now is to have the individuals. Chad? The appointment of you to the joint review board needs to be approved today because the joint review board is meeting on the 13th. Okay. So if we could get a suspension of the rules to appoint the mayor as the member to that board and then we can proceed forward as needed. Move to suspend. Second. A motion to second to suspend the rules. Is anybody opposed to suspending the rules? Nobody is. The rules are suspended. To approve then the appointment of the mayor to the tax and to be appointed to the review board. Second. We have a motion to second to approve. Let me just explain. Tid 14 is the new one we're creating for the former Walmart property with that development. So under discussion, if there is none, roll call please. Bowers? Aye. Decker? Aye. Hammond? Aye. Heidemann? Excuse me. Kath? Aye. Kittleson? Aye. Montemayor? Aye. Rindfleisch? Aye. Reisler? Aye. Samson? Aye. Vanderweal? Aye. Versi? Aye. Longamann? Aye. Boren? Aye. 15 ayes. Motion carries. What I have now is some citizen's awards for people that have saved others' lives in the city by administering CPR in times of emergency. And I would like the following individuals to come up and line up in order by the podium. First we have Wayne Greenwood, is Wayne here? Then some guy named Jeff Herman, is he here? We also have Marla Payne, is Marla here? Mike Wopler, I see Mike back there. And Tim Schmidt is here, if you folks can come up. And also if any of the people that you've helped out are here and would like to be recognized and say a word or two, please step forward also. It would be up to you. So what we have here are citizen's awards, certificates of commendation from the mayor's office. The results of a study reviewing outcomes of persons who suffer sudden cardiac arrest in Sheboygan County was done. This study looked at a number of things such as bystander CPR slash response times and whether the patient survived the event. The study separated the outcome of patients whose event happens in the city of Sheboygan and those having events outside of the city of Sheboygan. A surprising result showed that six of the 27 patients are 22% having cardiac arrest in the city were resuscitated. One of the major reasons for such a good survival rate is the number of bystanders who started CPR prior to the arrival of the first responders in ambulance. In other words, it's not just the first responders in the ambulance, it's the citizens that help each other out. Tonight I'd like to take a few minutes to recognize and thank a few citizens who have saved the lives of people who I am sure are very grateful that they took the time to learn CPR and didn't hesitate to react when required. First of all, I'd like to recognize Wayne Greenwood. On January 28th, 2010 at Emmanuel Church on Illinois Avenue, Thomas Vandercreek was playing basketball and suffered cardiac arrest. When Tom went into cardiac arrest, Wayne Greenwood started CPR in Thomas here because of it. Wayne, thank you, Wayne. Another incident occurred on March 20th, 2010 at the Stephanie Weill Center. John Vincent had collapsed. Fortunately for John, Fire Chief Jeff Herman, who was off duty at the time, was nearby and reported to the incident and immediately began life support for the victim. Because of Chief Herman's actions, John is here today. And I'll tell you what, you did get very lucky. In the microphone please so the folks can hear you at home. Right there, there you go. It's a good thing I think Jeff and I both like Pink Floyd because we were on our way to the Stephanie Weill Center. I didn't see the concert. By the way, really, he saved my life. And the real kick is I'd say within a month or so after I was kind of back on my feet and stuff, I went by to thank him. He's thanking me for coming in to thank him. I mean, talk about a human being. Another thing is he was there, he saved me. I had a 42 year old nephew. This past Halloween, he was on his way to a party, lived in New York City. He went down sudden cardiac death. By the time the EMTs got there, it was too late. He's no longer here. So I just know how important it is. And Jeff, thanks so much. Really, I mean, really, what can I say? Thank you. On September 2nd, 2010, at Mike's Expert Auto Repair Service, familiar with the place, 2044 Calumet Drive, Donald Justinger, an employee of Mike's Auto. Just Marla Payne is here. Marla was outside the garage and when she came around the front of the garage, she saw Don lying face down. When she discovered he was not breathing, they could not find a pulse, she started CPR. Also, Mike Woppler, the owner of Mike's Expert Auto, assisted his sister, Marla, with the CPR. So both Mike and Marla, Don Justinger, is alive today because of you. Is Don here also? Tim was involved in this one also. Oh, okay. Sorry, Tim. I have you. I thought you were, I thought you did something on your own. Sorry about that. Tim Schmidt, who I'm very familiar with, that's why I've given him a hard time, was a customer of Mike's and also assisted with CPR until the EMS arrived. So thank you, everybody. We have here, we have here Donald Justinger and also we have Tom Vandekrieg. Okay. Microphones, all yours, sir. It was kind of a warm afternoon and I really didn't feel anything coming but all of a sudden I just tipped over. And if it wasn't for these people that knew what they were doing, I sure wouldn't be around anymore. So thank you very much. My cardiologist told me that Wayne did one heck of a job. He broke a few ribs, but if you do CPR the right way, which I'm sure Mr. Herman can attest to, you're doing it right. And I owe my life to the man, to my right. Thank you. Thank you, everybody, for caring about your fellow citizens. Thank you. Okay. Next we have Public Forum. Do we have Public Forum? Yes, we do. Frank Kozab. Could you give me your home address, please, Frank? 2829 Erie Avenue. I wanna say to the council and the mayor, thank you very much for this opportunity to address you. I have some comments about a little aspect of our city, some thoughts I'd like to share with you. I was pleased to see in the paper a while ago that there are plans to make a small park at the corner, that'd be the northeast corner of 10th Erie Avenue, where the body shop used to be, and since it burned down. There's not much, I understand, that you can do a piece of property that size because of setbacks and what have you. So the proposal to make a park and make an invitation to people entering the city seems like a really good idea. And I think that's creative thinking. I would like to comment on the design that I saw in the paper. I'm guessing it's a preliminary design. You need to put something on paper to put in the newspaper for people to see. For those people who didn't see it, it's rather tall, not too wide. It looked like masonry structure, massive with a gable and an arch flanked by these two masonry pillars. Right up close to the corner, there's not much of the distance between the sidewalk and the structure. And I'm hoping this is a preliminary design because my feeling is that this is not a welcoming structure. It's a wall. It's in your face. It's saying this is a barrier. And when I look at it, I don't see the space behind it. If you did any landscaping, it would almost be irrelevant because you won't see it. I would hope that you'd want to get some other ideas. One person I spoke to said, you know what? Maybe they should hold a competition. You don't have to have a competition for a museum or whatever. Small little park like this. You might get some really creative ideas. Myself, I'd like to see something that invites my eye to travel backwards towards the farthest reaches of that space. Something that opens up and says to the people, you're coming to Sheboygan. You're coming to the gateway community here. The community that slayed for revitalization. And my initial impression of that structure is that it's kind of a forbidding and off-putting kind of structure. This is not to criticize the person who designed it because we see this everywhere in other applications and it seems very appropriate. I think it's just out of scale for that size. Halfway through? Okay, thank you. So that's my comment. And I have another thing. I was inspired actually by Alderman Boak's comment about the library. And this is my card. I suspect you have a card and you use the library. Yesterday. Good. Well, Alderman Boak, tell me how to pronounce your name correctly. I've been called worse. Okay, Boak, Boak, okay. I wish this were original. And I can't cite where I heard it. But I believe it's true. You defend what you love. And you love what you know. If you use and don't know the library, I think it's natural to love the library. And if you love the library, I believe you'd want to defend it. I know the tax pressures. I appreciate your comments on that. I'm a taxpayer too. But Oliver Wendell Holmes said, taxes are the price you pay for a civilized society. And the library is one of the things that makes Sheboygan civilized. The library, as a matter of fact, was the very first building I walked into when I came to Sheboygan. I thought it was City Hall. It was modern. It looked good. It promised something special inside. And when I walked in and found it was a library, I thought this city has got something. And then when I found out it was basically one woman's gift to the city, I was really impressed. And I think that fact is right. Frank, your five minutes are up. Did you want another minute? All I want to do is, OK, all I want to say is that there is this unrelenting feeling that cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes. I think you should control taxes if I really hope that you put things in perspective. And remember, I truly believe, and I think you believe this true, too. You will defend what you love, and you'll love it because you know it. So please, give every consideration to full funding of the library. Thank you. Thank you, sir. That's all for public forum this evening. Mr. Mayor, if I can just have one comment, and I won't rebut or anything. One comment. I would say that I have five minutes prepared tonight on the library as well. But I decided not to give that five minutes. But so perhaps you and I can have a conversation afterwards. But so excellent. Good dialogue, and I appreciate your time. Thank you, Alderman Polk. OK, we are done with public forum. Mayor's announcements, I will be brief this evening. First of all, I would like to thank the Fat Cats organization. Fat Cats run a mountain bike race at Evergreen Park every year, which is a big event. And they have gifted the city with $10,000 to be used at Evergreen, Maywood, or the Quarry. So this is the first time, I think, in my memory that an organization has given something to the city. So we thank them greatly. And next year, if you folks can make the mountain bike races out there, I was there this year. It's a huge event. It's really great for the area. So we thank the Fat Cats organization. And I'm sure we will spend this money wisely. Just a comment on Alderman Polk's prepared statement here, which is I appreciate you speaking, Cori. You're always, you don't cut corners, put it that way. And I appreciate that. One thing we do have to look at, though, in the city and cut taxes, cut taxes, control taxes, or raise taxes, we have controlled taxes in the city for the past five years. Our tax levy has not gone up. This is the sixth year. During that time, we've also, which I was on the council, and I believe you were also Alderman Polk, we got rid of the stormwater fee. That was another $1.6 million in revenue that was coming into the city that went away. We also got rid of the wheel tax. That was another $200,000 in revenue that was coming into the city that went away. So in essence, over the last six years, we have not raised taxes in the city. As a matter of fact, our tax rate, our overall, you know, fees or taxes, it's the same thing. You can call it a tax, you can call it a fee. Overall, we are spending less money now than we were six years ago. So overall, in that same time span, the leaders in Madison, who have a lot of them have been replaced this time around, raised their expenditures 5.1% every year over that time period, 5.1%. 20, over five years, they raised their expenditures 25.5%, I believe it was, 5.1% a year. Well, we did not. So even though we're in tough fiscal times here, you know, we are controlling what we do in the city. But I do appreciate Alderman Boak's comments. That's what we're all about here. I have no more announcements. We will get right into the hearings. We have two hearings. One, a hearing to amend the city's official zoning map to establish the use district classification of property located at 3805 Sheridan Avenue to neighborhood residential. Is there anybody that wishes to be heard regarding this issue? Two times, is there anybody that wishes to be heard? And for a third time, does anybody wish to be heard in this public hearing? There is nobody, President Kittleson. Thank you, Mayor. I move that the hearing be closed. Second. We have a motion to second to close the hearing. Under discussion, there is none. All in favor say, aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Second hearing is a hearing to amend the city's official zoning map to establish the use district classification of property located at 1232 North 40th Street to suburban commercial. Is there anybody that wishes to be heard regarding this hearing? For a second time, does anybody wish to be heard for the public? And for a third time, Alderman Bowers, you'd like to comment on this? Yes, thank you. Since this is close to my district, although I don't believe it's in it, but can someone tell me what the 1232 North 40th to suburban commercial really means? What's it zoned at now? Because people have asked me. And if so, if someone is around, I could tell me. I can have a motion to open the floor to Steve Sokolowski. Motion to second. All in favor say, aye. Aye. Opposed? Evening, Mayor Counsel. The property right now was the council recently annexed the property. It's owned by Lakeland, Toyota. It formerly was a single family residence in the town of Sheboygan. And I believe Lakeland purchased that for potential expansion purposes in the future. OK. Answer your question, Alderman Bowers. Yes. Thank you, Steve. OK, is there anybody from the public that wishes to be heard? There is not. President Kittleson? Thank you, Mayor. I move that this hearing be closed. Second. Motion to second to close the hearing. Under discussion? Under discussion, may I just say that the documents for these two hearings will be acted upon further along in the agenda. Thank you, President Kittleson. We have a motion to close the hearing. Move to close the hearing. Motion to second to close the hearing. Did we vote on that? No. All in favor of closing the hearing say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you, Jim. Alderman Hanna, did you want to say something to the council I forgot about earlier? Thank you. Everybody else says you might as well have your two cents. Thank you. And it's really dovetails with Cori's earlier comments. This Wednesday night, we're going to have the second meeting of the strategic fiscal planning committee at 7 o'clock, third floor. I invite all Alderman to come. The chairs of the standing committee make up that committee. And we're doing a budget prioritization process. We're starting early. So everybody's welcome. Everybody in the public, of course, welcome. So if you can get it on your schedule, it's going to be just about every Wednesday for the foreseeable future while we get this nailed down. Thank you. Thank you, Mark. Consent agenda 17-1 through 17-17. President Kittleson. Thank you again, Mayor. I move that all RCs be accepted and adopted. All ROs be accepted and placed on file. And all ordinances and resolutions be passed. Second. We have a motion and a second. Under discussion, Alderman Bolton. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. With item 17-5, that's actually one of my constituents. And he called me. That made it to public protection and safety on a night when he was out of town on vacation. So I would ask, if it would please the Chair, if that could go back to that committee with a notification, Mr. Terks, when that could be revisited? Thank you, Mayor. Yes. So we have a motion. We can send it back to PPNS. We can. However, may I call up Chad Pellishek from planning? We did call Mr. Terks. And I think we've been in contact with him. OK, he left me a message just saying that he had been notified and then he couldn't be there. I spoke with him, I think, on Thursday or Friday of last week. And he stated that him and his neighbors are going together. And he's going to be putting out a dawn to dusk light on his garage. That'll be on all day to take care of the light issues in the evening. And he's happy with it. And he said that he thanked the city for looking at his request. But at this stage, he should be satisfied with what he needs to do. He's going to take his safety in his own hands. Yes. All right. Thank you, Chad. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. So 17-1 through 17-17. We'll have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? If there is none, roll call please. Bowers? Aye. Deckard? Aye. Hammond? Aye. Hanna? Aye. Pat? Aye. Hiddleston? Aye. Montemayor? Aye. Rindflash? Aye. Reisler? Aye. Samson? Aye. Vandereel? Aye. Versey? Aye. Wangeman? Aye. Horne? Aye. Falk? Aye. Motion carries. Communications and petitions 17-18 and 17-19 to be referred. Reports of officers to Alderperson Montemayor? Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I would ask that agenda item number 17-20 be referred back to the Senior Activity Center. Second. OK, 17-20. We have a motion and a second to send that back to the Senior Activity Center. All in favor say aye. Aye. Aye. Opposed? Back it goes. OK, we have reports of officers to 17-21 by the city clerk submitting a petition from citizens who love Meade Library directing the Alderperson's and Mayor to vote in favor of the maintenance of effort. President Kittleson? Thank you, Mayor. I would move to file the document. I think I believe we've already accepted the, I would accept and file the document. Second. The motion is second to accept and file under discussion. Alderperson Montemayor, did you have anything else? President Kittleson, you just spoke Alderman Bauch. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Just a couple of thoughts on this. First, I don't know if it dovetails with the quote that the gentleman said earlier, but Napoleon said, a soldier will fight harder for his interests than for his rights. And I think that the combination of the dog ordinance, remember the reaction we got about the dog ordinance and the reaction we got on budget night of 16 of the speakers being all about the library, I think Napoleon was right, that people will get their Irish up over their interests more so than they will. You're not making fun of Irish, are you? In the nicest way. So there's that. And then, again, Mr. Mayor, I appreciate your comments about how you believe we have been good stewards over the past several years with the citizen's money. I would say with all that good stewardship that we are proud of, we are still in the top 15% of taxed cities in Wisconsin. So we got a long way to go. Thank you, Alderman Polk. Mr. Mayor, happy to help. Okay, 1721, do we have any further discussion? If there is none, all in favor of passing say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. 1722 through 1730 to be referred. Resolutions introduced three. We're going to take all three of these together. They are all regarding insurance. 1731 by Alderman Hannah, authorizing the appropriate city officials to enter into contract with Delta Dental to administer dental benefit plan services for the city for the calendar year 2011. 1732 by Alderman Hannah, authorizing the appropriate city officials to enter into agreement with diversified benefits services incorporated to administer the Health Reimbursement Arrangement or HRA for calendar year 2011. And 1733 by Alderman Hannah, authorizing the appropriate city officials to enter into agreement with United Healthcare, UMR, to provide third party administration services for the city's medical health benefit plan for the calendar years 2011 and 2012. Alderman Hannah. Thank you very much, Mr. Mayor. First, I need to ask to suspend the rules because there's a timing issue with this. Second. We have a motion and a second to suspend the rules under discussion on suspension of the rules. Alderman Boren. Thank you, Mayor Ryan. Alderman Hannah, has this gone through a formal salary and grievance committee review? Nope. What is the deadline? Somebody here from Finance can tell me. When I got here tonight, the documents were under my name. Does anybody know whether this, I've reviewed the documents. I had a question on the Delta Dental. Is that gonna be a savings over what we're doing now? Yeah, from what I understand, the Delta Dental is a much more comprehensive program for about the same price. It covers a lot more than what our present dental is covering and it doesn't cost us anymore. Our dental is pretty, is rather weak right now. What is the timing on this? Has to be done tonight? I am not sure myself. However, my notes say suspend and ask also. As my notes did also. I know that these policies will all be coming into effect on January 1st, so I would think that it is a timing issue to say the least. I guess I would feel more comfortable if this would be reviewed by the Salary and Grievance Committee. I mean, when would be your next meeting? That would be on Tuesday. This coming Tuesday? No, well, week. Yeah, I would think if you want these reviewed by salary and grievances, we should call a special meeting of salary and grievances to get this done and we may have to call another council meeting to get them passed. I'm just, you know, I think it would be helpful. That's what the council decides to do. I can tell you that our staff has reviewed these thoroughly and has made decisions based upon cost savings and services that we're going to receive. We are changing basically the biggest part is we're going with United Healthcare instead of Humana. On the dental end, it's a very small portion of it, but I know that these dollar-wise are coming in below what the others were. We went with the least expensive providers that we could find. Well, I guess I'll take your word for that, Mayor, but, you know, with something significant as this, I would think this would go through Salary and Grievance so that our HR director could at least explain to that committee whose job it is to kind of oversee this and then have the committee make a recommendation to come back to the council. Then we're going to have to call a special meeting of Salary and Grievance's and a special council meeting. If everybody's, Alderman Rindflash, Vice President Rindflash. Thank you, Your Honor. Specifically on the Cobra installation on document 1733, if you look through the Cobra installation, there are two Cobra payments that are being transferred over. Specifically, information is not, if information is not received by 1210, 2010, the customer may need to subsidize and increase some Cobra premiums. So I don't know who, in terms of negotiation, when that was done, but there is a date in there that is 1210, 2010. There's probably some other ones in there as well. I found that one. And then this, that was the major thing that I had seen. I don't know who's on the Cobra payments. 1210 is 40 days away. I have a rule that I can't really say, but I think that's a relatively important issue that we get this done today, so it's passed by 1210. Do we have any further comment, Alderman Boeck? Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I appreciate Alderperson Bourne for catching that. I had a couple of questions for the Chair of Sauron-Grience as well about these, and if it didn't go through that committee, I mean, we have a system, we have a process, and that process is the department heads make a great plan, and then we have committees that review that great plan and need to discuss that great plan, and then we come and we vote on it based on their recommendation, and our union partners are very particular about these things and how they affect their contracts, and I wouldn't feel like we should vote on that without our link to those union partners, the Sauron-Grience Committee, without those giving it its blessing, so I just think that I don't know how it ended up getting so late in the process, but I just couldn't vote on this. Right, I could tell you one reason why it's so late in the process is that these could not be done until we knew where we were sitting on any union contracts that may have been opened for negotiating purposes for the budget. Obviously, if they were open, we were hoping to use some steerage to have people go to the county clinic, which would be a joint clinic, and that's why these are coming in later now, so if that answers that question. If we want these to go to salary and grievances, I say we should call these salary and grievances meeting for tomorrow. So it has to be Wednesday. Hmm? Because of the 24-hour rule, we need some Wednesday. Yeah, it would have to be Wednesday. It would be Wednesday, probably around five. Do we have members of salary and grievances that will be available Wednesday at five? I just need to show a hand, so the salary and grievances, who can be at least. You can come in and share services also at the same time on Wednesday. So that ends at 6.30? It would, in time, right? If we held salary and grievances at 6.30, can I get? Who is on salary and grievances that can make it if we can have a show of hands? We'll do it at 6.30, because we've got seven o'clock. We've got strategic fiscal. Can we have one other than you? Yeah, I need somebody besides Jean. I need three people. And then we're going to have to have a council meeting on Friday to get these pet, or on Thursday, rather. Can we, can everybody make it Thursday for a council meeting? If you cannot make it, please raise your hand. Not. One, two, three, four. Joe Walderman-Heidemann's out. Five, that's cutting it close. What time for the council meeting on Thursday? What time for the council meeting on Thursday? Regular time? Seven? Yes, please. Yes, but we're going to have to make sure we have a quorum number one. Mr. Mayor, if I may. From above. Citizen month, Mayor, is correct. We don't have a motion before the floor, so I'll put one out there just for discussion. I would move to send these back to salary and grievance. And if I could get a second? I guess. Under discussion. The follow-up is, I don't know if this is a good idea or not. Here's one thing I don't think we want, which is to just do this for a show. I mean, our process, nobody loves the process more than I, and probably Vice President Rheinfleisch do. We want to live by the process. But if all we're going to do is just meet and approve what's already here, and then meet again a couple of nights, or a night later to approve what we just approved. I'm not for doing it for a show, but if the Seller and Grievance Committee would like to discuss this with the people, and if our Alderman would like the discussion, that's the only reason I think we should do that. If people are okay with this, then let's just go ahead and vote for it tonight. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Alderman Bauch. So we have a motion and a second to send it back. We also have a motion to approve it, or a motion to suspend. We have a motion to suspend. A motion to suspend should be approved. Yes. And then we move to... Okay, is anybody opposed to the rules being suspended? First of all, okay, the rules are suspended. We're that far. Okay. So what goes to Alderman Bauch's referral to Seller and Grievance? Which Alderman Bauch isn't sure if it's a good idea or not. He only wants it if it's gonna be a meaningful meeting, and if it's a good idea and we should just vote on it tonight, I'm all for that, too. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Okay, Alderman Brasler. Thank you. As a member of Seller's and Grievance, I'm okay with the documents, so if that helps with anything. You're okay with the documents, as is. Do we have any other comment? Alderman Bowers. Thank you. I'd just like to remind this council that three years ago, one person voted, and it cost the city $3 million in additional insurance premiums because it didn't go through the proper procedure. Now, if we're gonna do away with procedures, I don't know if this is gonna save money or not, but at least people will review it. Three years ago, no one reviewed it, no one knew what it was. It went through this council, and no one, I asked people, I wasn't here. You remember voting on it? They said, we must have what you must have, but it was done by one person, and that one person won't cost the city a million and a half for one year and a million and a half the second year because it was not well thought of. So bear that in mind. Thank you, Alderman Bowers. Do we have any other comment? This will be a vote. We will do a roll call vote on sending it back to salary and grievances, which means we will have a salary and grievances meeting on Wednesday and a council meeting on Thursday, a special common council meeting. In aye vote, we'll send it back to salary and grievances. Roll call, please. Seconded. That was. Bowers. Alderman Bowers. Decker. Aye. Hammond. Aye. Hanna. Aye. Heidemann is gone. Kath. No. Hiddleston. Abstain. Montemior. No. Rindflash. No. Reisler. No. Sampson. Aye. Vanderweal. No. Bursey. No. Wagamon. Aye. Born. Aye. Bauke. Aye. Bowers. Aye. Ayes, six, no, one abstention. I'll see you Wednesday night, 630. Okay, so Wednesday night, 630, salary and grievances in the third floor conference room. Third floor conference room. Wednesday night, Thursday night council meeting. Is there anything else going on Thursday night committee meeting wise? What is it, what is on Thursday night? I'll be at the library meeting probably until at least 630. Seven o'clock council meeting Thursday night in the council chamber special council meeting. If anybody cannot make that council meeting, please call the city clerk's office. But regardless, we have to have that done on Thursday or we will be meeting Friday during the day sometime because we have to get this in. Okay, so we have these three duck. Yeah, the clerk's gonna write those agendas, right Linda? I'll write the agenda. Very good. Okay, moving on, we have those three items will be referred back to salary and grievances. 1734 through 1738 to be referred. Report of committee six, 1739 by law and licensing recommending denying taxicab driver's license application number 8884 based upon her failure to include all relevant convictions on her application or lengthy record of convictions and her failure to cooperate with the committee. Alderman Rindfleisch, vice president Rindfleisch. Thank you Mr. Mayor. I'd like to ask that the report of committee be accepted and adopted. Second. We have a motion and a second to accept and adopt under discussion. Thank you. Is Stacey Peltier here? She's not your honor. Please continue. I think the description as put in the agenda says it all. The record of commissions was quite lengthy. Two notifications were sent for Ms. Peltier to come to the committee and discuss that lengthy record of convictions and neither time did she attend. So I ask that we follow up a recommendation and deny. Okay, we have a motion and a second to deny. Is there any further discussion? We'll call please. Hammond. Aye. Hanna. Aye. Kev. Aye. Kittleson. Aye. Montemayor. Aye. Rindfleisch. Aye. Riesler. Aye. Samson. Aye. Banderweal. Aye. Born. Aye. Vowk. Aye. Bowers. Aye. Dekker. Aye. 15 Ayes. Motion carries. 1740 to be referred. Report of committee, I guess this would be number seven here. 1741 by finance recommending approval of the initial resolution regarding exempt facility bond financing for Green and Virotech Holdings Corporation. Finance Alderman Hammond. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I move that the report of committee be accepted and adopted and the resolution be put upon its passage. Second. We have a motion and a second to accept and adopt and put the resolution upon its passage under discussion. There is none. Roll call please. Hanna. Aye. Kev. Aye. Kittleson. Aye. Montemayor. Aye. Rindfleisch. Aye. Samson. Aye. Banderweal. Abstain. Wongerman. Aye. Bourne. Aye. Bauch. Aye. Bowers. Aye. Dekker. Aye. Hammond. Aye. 14 Ayes, one abstention. Motion carries. Matters laid over 11, 1625 RO number 297-10-11 by the city plan commission amending the zoning map to establish the use district classification of property located at 1232 North 40th Street as SC suburban commercial. Alderperson Montemayor. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I move that the report of officer be accepted and placed on file and the general ordinance be put upon its passage. Second. We have a motion and a second to accept and file and put the ordinance upon its passage under discussion. If there is none, roll call please. Cat. Aye. Kittleson. Aye. Montemayor. Aye. Rindfleisch. Aye. Riesler. Aye. Samson. Aye. Banderweal. Aye. Versi. Aye. Wongerman. Aye. Bourne. Aye. Bowers. Aye. Dekker. Aye. Hammond. Aye. Hanna. Aye. 15 Ayes. 10-11 by city plan commission amending the zoning map to establish the use district classification of property located at 3805 Sheridan Avenue as N.R. neighborhood residential. All to person Montemayor. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I move that the report of officer be accepted and placed on file and the ordinance be put upon its passage. Second. We have a motion and a second to accept and file and put the ordinance upon its passage under discussion. There is no discussion. Roll call, please. Kittleson. Aye. Montemayor. Aye. Brinflash. Aye. Riesler. Aye. Samson. Aye. Banderweal. Aye. Versi. Aye. Wongerman. Aye. Bourne. Aye. Bowers. Aye. Dekker. Aye. Hammond. Aye. Hanna. Aye. Kev. Aye. 15 Ayes. Motion carries. 1647, Resolution number 148-10-11 by Alderpersons. Hammond, Bulk, Bourne and Brinflash authorizing a transfer of appropriations in the 2010 budget, establishing revenue and appropriation for G.O. Refunding Bonds issues for payment of G.O. Promissory Notes 2003 and G.O. General Obligation Refunding Bonds 2001. Alderman Hammond. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I move that the resolution be put upon its passage. Second. We have a motion and a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion. There is no discussion, roll call please. Montemay-Ore. Aye. Brinflash. Aye. Reisler. Aye. Samson. Aye. Vanderweal. Aye. Versi. Aye. Wongerman. Aye. Bourne. Aye. Bulk. Aye. Bowers. Aye. Dekker. Aye. Hammond. Aye. 15 ayes. Motion carries 1648, Resolution Number 149-10-11 by Alder Persons. Hammond, Bulk, Bourne and Rinflash, authorizing a transfer of appropriations in the 2010 budget, establishing revenue and appropriations for tracks enforcement grant received by the Sheboygan Police Department, Alderman Hammond. Thank you again, Mr. Mayor. I move that the resolution be put upon its passage. Second. We have a motion and a second to put the resolution upon its passage under discussion. If there is none, roll call please. Rinflash. Aye. Resler. Aye. Samson. Aye. Vanderweal. Aye. Versi. Aye. Wongerman. Aye. Bourne. Aye. Bulk. Aye. Bowers. Aye. Dekker. Aye. Hammond. Aye. Hanna. Aye. Kev. Aye. Kittleson. Aye. Montemure. Aye. 15. By Alderperson Kittleson repealing and recreating various sections of the municipal code so as to incorporate recent state law changes. President Kittleson. Thank you, Mayor. I would move that the general ordinance be put upon its passage. Second. We have a motion and a second under discussion. Under discussion with the municipal judge shall be elected at large for a term of four years and beginning at the spring election 2011. And that's to coincide with the state law changes that were made, I believe. So that we go along with state law, changing that position from two to a four year term. Thank you. Very good. Any further discussion? There is no roll call please. Reisler. Aye. Samson. Aye. Vanderweel. Aye. Versi. Aye. Wongerman. Aye. Bourne. Aye. Bowers. Aye. Dekker. Aye. Hammond. Aye. Kittleson. Aye. Montemior. Aye. Rindflash. Aye. 15 ayes. Motion carries. Other matters authorized by law 1742 through 1745 will be referred 1746 in RC by finance recommending authorizing the appropriate city officials to execute a shared savings agreement with the Wisconsin power and light company relating to the financing of the purchase and installation of two 200 kilowatt capstone micro turbines for the wastewater treatment plant. Alderman Hammond. Thank you very much. I move that the reported committee be accepted and adopted and the resolution be put upon its passage. Second. We have a motion and a second to accept and adopt and put the resolution upon its passage under discussion. There is no discussion roll call please. Samson. Aye. Vanderweel. Versi. Aye. Longamen. Aye. Born. Aye. Vauke. Aye. Bowers. Aye. Dekker. Aye. Hammond. Aye. Hanna. Aye. Kev. Aye. Kittleson. Aye. Montemior. Aye. Rindflash. Aye. Rissler. Aye. 15 ayes. Motion carries 1747 in RC by the Marina and Harbor Committee recommending filing documents submitting the Harbor Center Marine Balance sheet from operations dated September 30th, 2010 as submitted by Skipper Buds Marine, I believe is what it should say there. Mr. Mayor, I would move the RC to accept and adopt it. Second. We have a motion and a second to accept and adopt under discussion. There is none. All in favor of accepting and adopting say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. 1748, an RO, actually 1748 will be referred to the Special Committee on Risk Management. Other matters authorized by law, Attorney McLean. 1749 is communication submitting an email from all the person born with an article from the League of Misfalities titled Inflation Factor set at 3% for expenditure restraint program. That will go to Finance and the Strategic Fiscal Planning Committee. 1750 is submitting an email from the Deputy Finance Director Treasurer titled Wisconsin Retirement Rates. That will be referred to Finance, Salary and Grievances, and Strategic Fiscal Planning. 1751 is communication from Mike and Terry to Master, stating that they object to the ban on using small garbage bags. We'll go to Public Works. 1752 is an RO by the city clerk submitting various license applications for the period ending June 30, 2011 and June 30, 2012. To law and licensing. 1753 is an RO by the city clerk submitting communication and a formal request for a two-year extension from hooking up to the mini storm sewer adjacent to property at 3814 South 17th Street as per section 26-1002 sub D of the municipal code. That will be referred to Public Works. 1754 is an RO by building inspection submitting the report for the building inspection department for the month of November 2010. We'll be referred to Public Protection and Safety. 1755 is submitting a summons and complaint in the matter of Alexandria M. Hine and the city of Schwoigen versus Tony L. Albert at all. We'll be referred to risk management. 1756 is a resolution authorizing the sale of city-owned property at 1309 Center Avenue. That will be referred to city planning. 1757 is a resolution authorizing entering into development agreement with BV Schwoigen LLC for the redevelopment of the former Walmart property located at 609 South Taylor Drive. We'll be referred to finance. So I have a motion to adjourn. In a second. All in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you, everybody.