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Let's get into it. We were innocent. He was to destroy us I've never lost the gratitude That I survive How do I find meaning in that? How do I find it a meaning to something that's so senseless? Right out the bat is tough, but there's not it. I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking that's idea beautiful typical London summer, so we all had our coats on It had been very hot and it was just this very light misting of rain The night before I played cricket For the company, so it was it was a nice summer period Morning rush out London was still celebrating its successful bid for the 2012 Olympics the day before I just sat down at the very front It's the very first seat in the carriage and was engrossed in the newspaper because obviously they've been in use of the Olympics I was just so excited. It was just Fantastic, and it was going to be the beginning of another chapter Emotionally like you know Because y'all had a good moment the day before y'all had just found out some good news Lawyer Thelma Stober had worked for three years on the Olympic campaign She was on the circle line running later than usual because she'd taken her seven-year-old son Lewis to school That's what the teacher kept saying we won we won we won and then I left and went to the station and Went to get the train to work 24-year-old Carrie Taylor was in the same carriage having said goodbye to her mother at Liverpool Street We used to leave here together and would get the train up to Liverpool Street She'd then get on the onto the the tube network, and I would just walk walk to work And we always had the obligatory she used to peck me on the cheek and I had to slap her on the backside It was just silly stuff It was sheer chance that brought so many people that morning to a time and a place that would change their lives in an instant Richard Levy had taken a different route to see progress on Arsenal's new Emirates Stadium I was a bit of a football fan And I said like I'm past this stadium and every week I'd go past it was slightly more built a slightly more built a slightly more built Jill Hicks had forgotten her travel card and had to queue for a ticket I was running late and I never ever ran late for work. This was the only morning that I did that Tim Coulson happened to be in London for a course on a circle-line train going through Edgeware Road. It wasn't a regular Yeah, so everybody in this documentary was just there by chance commuted all London was a place. I I didn't go to very much. I went there for the art I was also slightly thrown by the fact that the Stations were absolutely rammed with people still at Hopper State in the morning when it comes to transportation me at least like public transportation I haven't had to take it in years until I moved to Miami like a creature of habit like I don't like to be late I like to see the same driver every day. I like to be on the same bus every day If something's out of place, I will notice it and I will stare it down Like you know what I'm saying like on the same line as Tim heading the other way 22-year-old David folks was on his first solo trip Maybe it's cuz it's like from being from Chicago and things of that nature Like it'd be a lot of funny stuff going on on public transportation. So you got to be like very vigilant So I guess that I guess they could play a part in why I'm like that from Manchester to London He's never traveled on the tube. I remember we looked up the tube printed off the tube map and Described where he would go and which tube we would get on and where he would get off and so on and He was on some of like a six o'clock six a.m. Train from Manchester Which meant he left home at about 5 a.m. So he got up at about 4 a.m What should you use mirror when you draw on a whiteboard? On the Piccadilly line Jill Hicks and Richard Levy each battle to get onto the same overcrowded train at Kings Cross The platform was packed full of people almost I'd say six people deep people in the underground They talked to each other. I miss this unwritten rule if you don't talk to an on the underground We were sitting there standing there rather waiting for this train to come. I made it in little Did I know at the same time boarding as me was the suicide bomber? It's nothing more than just I don't have to say like if a train is packed like that I don't even get on that joint Me this is me though like I'm just I'm just comparing what happened to them to me like If I see a train as overly packed I'm waiting on the next one because I don't like to touch nobody like I don't like to be like I'm a big dude. I'm wide like I'm six to 250 plus pounds like I'm not trying to be all next to nobody like that Random I'm gonna just listen. I ain't gonna pause moments in your life that you decide to move slightly to the right or slightly ahead or slightly To the left that changed what happened to you that day Three separate trains radiating out from King's Cross carrying thousands of commuters on that Thursday morning in July All connected within moments around 847 there was probably no more than 20 seconds into the journey it was It was nothing really And I didn't hear anything I think the sound was so overpowering they just The first thing that I remember was that was a yellow light that flashed not even a click no noise no anything the whole of my world went completely black and I thought in that moment I've just died. I must have had a heart attack and I this is death CCTV from Old Gate station shows the moment the bomb went off I felt as if I was lifted up CC TV from so the train leaves at 745 Station shows them and one minute later Moment the bomb went off I felt as if I was lifted Up and I was circling round and I could see a very bright light And I could hear from a distance lots of screams Colin Pettit was on the same carriage further away from the bomb I was very concerned that I thought she's survived whatever had taken place Which I thought at that stage was a train crash, but I was very worried about potentially burning alive In the carriage itself But as he made his way through the debris he realized this was no train crash Remember there was a sort of a young lady blonde hair and she was sort of bent over backwards across the lap of a Another passenger who was just sitting there motionless and her clothes she was in her underwear So we can obviously due to the explosion. That's the point when I realized it had been an explosion because Clothes but from our underwear had been blown off her That young girl was Carrie Taylor. She was cared for by another commuter who'd come to her aid from the next carriage He could hear people shouting and he thought, you know, he can't just kill I go on He couldn't he just couldn't do it. He had to go. He had to come back He told me and he got in the carriage of Carrie and he comforted Carrie for quite some time Before help could reach them from the outside world the survivors were left depending on one another Colin jumped down onto the track and followed screams He could hear from people who'd been blown out of the train Including Felmer Like it's a it's a It's a You know I'm saying so I know like but I know it made it even that much worse Because it was in like an enclosed space Underground with Pressure and air ratio is not even the right You know, I open my eyes and I saw as I was actually lying on the train track and By the train part of part of my body was Underneath the the train. She told me my name's Thelma. She was a lawyer. She had a son And that's what I was assessing, you know looking at her legs. There was a lot of a Deep lacerations in her legs. Her left foot was twisted around pretty much pointing the wrong way part of the door was actually stuck to my thigh and The the door of the train had come off and part of it was hanging and There were people screaming and shouting on the train and And I could see legs hanging When the bomb went Today, man See that's why I'm like watching stuff like this man I know this is a hard watch for people, but I don't know I never knew somebody suggested it to me But like I like I'm into the race of humankind, you know, I'm saying so anything that like We're innocent people as a whole our Like it's weird, you know, I'm saying cuz I've done things but it's like Like this stuff like this is gonna get under my skin every time It's gonna make me emotional So if you see me hit this BRB button like this You know why I got to get myself together out here cuz this is one of the ones Went off on the circle line train near Edgeware Road the force of the explosion stopped Tim Coulson's train passing in the other direction The sound of people screaming in the bombed train drove Tim and two other men to risk their own lives to help The three of us had a very similar drive to help our fellow man in some way We searched around and we found a metal pole, which is used for scraping ice in the exposed parts of the underground and we smashed the window and As One of the others held on to that pole. I climbed through that broken window and I came across A man No clothes on the top half of his body and his lower half of his body was Below the train floor. He was in a hole Sitting up facing me And alive Tim crawled under the train to try to free the man, but he was beyond help. I knew I was going to have to do something And be with him at the end of his life And I knew it was somehow I knew that was important Not because I knew the man But I didn't know if he was married whether he had children, but to me No one no one should go alone ever We know they do but honestly You wouldn't even have that type of quote If you ain't been through nothing like that, but that's deep. That's deep. He's right No one should die alone. I could prevent that one Plain and simple your business can't scale on quick but those struggling to survive underground had no idea that others were Going through the same experience on two other tube trains The only clarity they had in the chaos was that their carriage had been hit by a massive explosion You look around you think there are no windows. Oh, there's no doors. There's there's no roof This carriage is now a shower effectively in the tunnel because sir is pouring down Breaking news are getting from the PA newswire that there's been reports of an explosion outside Liverpool Street Station I witnessed to say there was a bang heard during rush hour details still very sketchy Above ground the picture was changing with every passing moment The latest we're hearing is that several London underground stations have been Evacuated British transport police just telling us that they're a walking wounded It was an explosion and it happened at all gate tube station all gate east. I beg your pardon The first reports blamed power surges and possible train collisions Really, no no one seems no no one here. It's been totally sure what has gone on yet It really it really is the scene of some confusion here a witness report saying people are streaming out of old gate tube station covered in blood In the deepest tunnel between Kings Cross and Russell Square some victims were only just regaining consciousness The doors gave way There's electric cables that run alongside the the tunnel and I got Throwing very heavily against those cables And that produced effectively What felt like a bolt of lightning going through me. I have no idea how long it was for that blackness to be lifted But it was only when I heard other people screaming my jaw was just locked Like I got my neck hurting like I haven't watched nothing like this and maybe it's been a minute And I can see why people go to fight for their country like this shit Stuff like this dreaming That I felt very comforted by that and thought Okay, I'm not alone There's a big hole in the carriage and those people lying everywhere covered in blood and screaming help So I don't know what exploded with something exploded We're all talking to each other. We're all saying yep still here. Yep still alive still okay. I Still had a scarf on I took my scarf off ripped that in two and tied torn a case up the tops of my legs and As I was tying the torn a K up the top of my right leg My hand went right into my thigh And I thought okay. This is this is really bad But don't Okay, this is this is really bad But don't panic because everything always looks worse than what it really is Despite his injuries Richard Levy made it to the driver's cab The driver told him to head for Russell Square tube station but warned him that the line could still be live All you're waiting for is the metaphorical light at the end of the tunnel that that's really what you're you're looking at And I saw a guy running in the other direction had a luminous jacket in and he said are you okay and In a way, they're the three Greatest words I could have heard because you're talking to someone who is just saying you're okay. You're okay And I said, I don't know if I'm okay, but I do know that people need help in there They're telling us some Casualties and what they're describing as a major incident of London underground I don't know what happened You probably know more than me. I was in the front carriage and people were severely injured there But I've heard I don't know if it's right that people were even worse further back Do you know why I'd rather become an online closer and make one to four The chaos was spreading as the capital was sealed off people around the country was switching on the news reports Anybody who had someone they loved in London became increasingly worried. I was watching the news Constantly, I tried to ring Harry God knows how many times and the students said all the mobiles the system had gone down. I remember thinking No, this can't be because we live 200 miles away. It's his first trip to London But Paul I've must be stressed out. He's caught up in it somewhere. He's probably really anxious and know what to do Underground all the survivors could do was wait And help one another At Edgeware Road Tim Coulson had moved on to comfort a young woman with serious injuries We were on our own and I faced her deliberately away from the carnage because I'd seen more than enough for the rest of my life and I didn't believe she needed to see any of it She had been as I say knocked unconscious So I was aware that she'd also got a very badly damaged left leg and Her left thigh was getting larger. It did. I now know it had track no limit But at the time it was just swelling out of all proportion It seemed like forever when you've got You know when you're surrounded by people who've been killed or when there's people that are sort of very badly injured That's about what you want is people there to assist you. I could do nothing I was determined not to die and Colin said, you know, I was a fighter I was really determined because I felt my job is not done yet There are lots of things I wanted to do and you know I wasn't ready to go At this point like It's crazy like I gotta put myself in y'all shoes, but like at this point you got to be like Like she said like your will to survive through something like this has got to be crazy. You got to be You've got to be up there the first person to arrive was a young paramedic Dressed in green and yellow Called Lisa and she broke down into tears and knelt on the floor and I said Lisa You've got a bag What's in it? Can we have a look or something of that nature? Because so we've got nothing and that just was enough to jog her back into This dude right here he driving the greatest He was one of them ones in there. He was making stuff happen State of reality to say I see I'm here to do a job It was the explosion of a bus at Tabistock Square almost an hour after the first bombs That confirmed that this was no power outage, but a full-scale attack on London. I Was one night a bus they did a bus to those that had to be evacuated walking towards Russell Square and suddenly a huge explosion On the street up in front of me and all I could see was the top of a bus completely destroyed George Saradakis was the driver of the number 30 bus Full of passengers evacuated from the tube network Every scene I looked and see and show a massacre bodies. I kept saying Lord have mercy Lord have mercy and at some point I Raised my hands and say very Angrily they killed all my passengers One brave man Walked in and see me shaking says to me. Just don't worry. Don't worry And I was crying and he was trying to comfort me to calm it down One of the few pieces of good fortune that day was that the bus exploded outside the headquarters of the British Medical Association Where senior doctors were meeting Including emergency response leader Peter Holden. I mean as good as it's gonna get but With all that tragedy that's happened that is good Everybody just came outside and got straight to it I looked down to the courtyard and you could see people being brought in on tabletops Being used as stretchers We used some of the curtains out of the staterooms. We cut those up into bandages Because this is an office building. It's not a hospital Within minutes Peter was directing 16 doctors as they treated the casualties in the courtyard There are two locations at the front of in the outer courtyard of BMA house Where I invoked category four which is or otherwise known as priority one expectant. It's where you have a Patient who is so seriously injured. They have absolutely no prospect of survival Usually and thankfully they were deeply unconscious. You put a human being with them So they're not alone when they die So they've been done once in civilian practice It is possible that if the explosion on the tube train In King's Cross happened on that Piccadilly line say halfway between Russell Square and King's Cross They might be approaching it from both ends Around the corner from the bus explosion at Russell Square tube station the chaos was delaying ambulances from reaching the injured But in this tight-knit city staff from two nearby hospitals came running to help the paramedics We were very very lucky because a Lot of doctors and nurses turned up at Russell Square. I remember saying to Two police officers who were guarding the entrance for me and saying to them If people come with Identification as a doctor and nurse. I need their help. There were people lying everywhere And you know, they were propped up against the ticket barriers They were propped up against signs against the walls and all you could smell was smoke and blood and We didn't see anybody who had minor injuries. We saw people that had She said all you can smell was smoke and blood You know how much blood there has to be for there to be a smell Illuminating throughout the neighborhood That's crazy. It really puts it in perspective how big this was We saw people that had legs missing Richard Levy finally managed to reach the surface Lady came over and she said You have to lie down. You're losing a lot of blood. You're in a bad way You have to lie down and I think at that point the adrenaline that really kept me going from the moment of impact until this point pretty much We're off. I remember Richard just looking up at me and as covered in soots and I was sitting kind of almost at his head level and With his head between my knees with the oxygen mask on and just talking to him And I'm just remember him looking up at me terrified Kelly stayed with me for a long time. She was she was She was fantastic and she said Don't look to your right Because there's a really it was Jill Jill Hicks was the last person to be brought up alive from that tunnel that day. I Could feel a touch on my shoulder And the words priority one and I just felt immediate release Thank God, you're here. I'll give myself to you now. I've done all I can Here I am Barely alive, and I remember thinking Hey, I just no one's gonna die here today Well, we will move having enough to keep everyone alive. Do what possibly care There's at least three or four people around her and they were resuscitating her at that point With cardiac massage. So, you know, they were doing the breathing for her and pumping her heart for her And the first thing I realized was that she had no legs below the knee both of them Were completely blown away By the time the most seriously injured were being brought up to the surface It was becoming clear that London had suffered its worst ever terrorist attack The initial anxiety of those who hadn't heard from relatives was turning into panic It was blanket news then and there was an emergency Casualty bureau phone number coming across the bottom. So I phoned them and They they only received information. They didn't give information out So I just said David folks gave his age and brief description. I can remember John phoning out and saying That nobody had heard from work And the words he said to me June, I think we've lost her and I just I just said no don't don't say that don't say that Out of the chaos of four simultaneous bombings Emergency services was starting to impose order Our priority for all the emergency services at the moment is the rescue operation Which is at present still continuing From what was this initial confusion? And it's a renders thing that we're dealing with you will get order and you will get your patients to hospital It will it will work out in the end for you. You've just got to believe in that and just Get on with it I was deshing in by the hope On to Russell Square tube station at the moment There's a row of about 20 ambulances immediately outside the tube station also a fire rescue vehicle fire Fighters are down in Russell Square tube station itself At Russell Square Jill Hicks and Richard Levy were being stretched into ambulances The response said priority to and I sort of said my hearing was terrible I'm not we still don't know what fully happened to Richard. Do we we know Jill is missing? Unfortunately, you know what happened to Jill Well, what's happening to Jill because the blast have been so loud and I said someone was party to men and they say It's bad, but there's party one and that people were really badly injured who we need to Focus on a little bit. It's like hey He still ribs me that he he started his life in the carriage as a priority one But was downgraded when they gave me the priority one. He became a priority, too So they thought he was that bad But then they read classified they put me in an ambulance and they said Just to know we're gonna go very very fast and it's gonna be very very bumpy So hold on and don't take your oxygen mask off and keep talking again I think it's a sign on my mind that I didn't quite well as how bad I was But I thought well when we get to that hospital wonder what we're waiting with everybody and That wasn't the case. They just took me right through Tim Coulson was still with the young woman. He'd been comforting since jumping into the bombed carriage just before nine o'clock that morning I held on to her hand and She said you won't let go will you and I said no not until I'm told to and they'll have to have it I'm good reason rule after rule of ambulance is turning up all the time obviously not just the London Ambulance Service But they're being brought in from throughout the home counties to help out At all gates. Elmer Stober had been brought up to the surface and put into an ambulance heading to the Royal London There was somebody sitting with me and I think it's one of the paramedics And I could hear him giving directions to the driver And I said to him how come he is an ambulance driver and he doesn't know his way to the hospital Of course, I hadn't appreciates the significance of what had happened and the fact that they had to bring people from out of London We're not familiar with the area For the survivors who'd been Ambulance is from across the country come out helping to keep the make sense though. This is what You need everybody at this point you're alive underground There were mixed emotions as they handed them over to the paramedics I think with my brain was trying to sort of Eliminate the goriness of what was down there because I was still a bit dazed from the whole situation So whether I think the focus was just on Particular points such as you know trying to get out trying to help people when you come across them I just absolutely collapsed in a heap of tears and you know Just some of that harsh reality beginning to bite for the very first time minutes of a chap just Started to walk up the tunnel and it's just it all goes. It was quite funny I remember the other guy here. I think he was due to go to a training course and he just So right okay. Nice to meet you and he just went off straight to his training course as far as I'm aware The survivors were arriving at hospital. Many had life-changing injuries I remember what don't even matter what the injuries are but Like Richard, he don't even know what's really happening to him and by like I don't either Like I thought Richard was cool But they categorize them as one then downgraded them because somebody was worse. Like that mean he died Waking up in hospital and I couldn't speak for some time And I was intubated and had various tubes on everything, but I remember very clearly Trying to motion Show me my arms. I need to know do I have arms? That's crazy Putting myself in that situation again like waking up from a coma basically Thinking like just show me just please. Let me have arms Like the thought that like that being a thought in your mind like I woke up just in The hospital a few days later and I was told that my left foot had been amputated and That I had very severe injuries This clearly was a callous attack on purely innocent members of the public deliberately designed to kill and injure innocent members of the public The first official confirmation that many people had died in all four bombs came that afternoon It was not a good place our house at that time So we didn't go to bed that night. We spent the whole night phoning phoning phoning We went around all the hospitals that they said that they'd sent people to Because we had a picture of her and I know we couldn't go in and see the people But we asked those nurses Have you got anybody that could be because they had people there that were badly burnt? And at that stage you didn't care. You just wanted to know she was okay Many of the victims were unidentifiable their clothes and I couldn't even imagine being a parent and my kid is going Possessions blown away by the force of the bomb Iable their clothes and possessions blown away by the force of the bomb For those waiting at home It would be days before they got confirmation of what they were dreading There was a knock at the front door And a young young girl in plain clothes who identified herself as a police officer asked to come in Told us that she was from greater Manchester police She'd been instructed by the Metropolitan police to come and see us But she had no information to give us whatsoever But she wanted to take DNA swaps at that point Daffodils it sounds we were rearranging rooms here Well, she could sleep downstairs if she she lost her. We know she'd lose her leg And we thought that's okay. We can look after there's three of us. We can look after we'll get help We can she can have all what she needs in there and we got crazy to see the mindset and the thought process of what's going on When you really don't even know you're in the dark And this is what this is like You hear what she's saying. This is this is the best that she's hoping for These are this is the You know I'm saying it's the best possible scenario that she's hoping for right now She ain't even thinking about the words. He's thought about it. Look I dealt with bungalows. So she's got a bathroom all the things we're planning her coming back and then You know, it's silly it's silly and Then you get told she's not coming back because she's in the mortuary Searching for a new home. Lenard has a wide variety and then Wednesday evening at 20 past six Um had a phone call to confirm that david had been killed 52 people were dead But four others had deliberately set out that day to bring carnage to london Whatever they do It is our determination That they will never succeed In destroying what we hold dear in this country The youngest suicide bomber 18 year old student hasib hussein killed 13 on the tavis dock square bus 19 year old carpet fitter germane lindsey killed 26 on the king's cross russell square train 22 year old shezad tanweir killed seven at old gate And 30 year old teaching assistant Muhammad sadeek khan killed six at edgeware road I'd expected to see a monster And I didn't see a monster. I saw a young man And I looked and looked and looked at this picture in the in the paper and I thought What in the hell has led you A 19 year old man To detonate a bomb to kill yourself to do this to me to take so many lives The st. Thomas's hospital has this incredible view over london and what I remember Stikily was a loss of innocence about safety and I remember thinking i'm safe in hospital Hospital was okay because i'm safe. Nothing bad can happen to me here and used to look out across london And see this amazing view and see people going about their everyday lives and used to think Wow, do they not realize what's just happened? Wow, that's a fair thought At this point 10 years have passed since the day that took jill hicks's legs I want to say it with my body Because my body is the thing that's the difference. That's what's changed in the last 10 years And the event has changed my body And I'll attach the safety rope that they're going to manage Jill has set herself 10 physical challenges one for every year since 7 7 Starting with absailing down the tallest building in adelaide in southern australia where she now lives There's been a lot of sleepless nights and But I keep thinking I keep transporting myself back to that carriage and I keep thinking I faced what many of us would feel was the unfacable I can fucking do that. I can do any of this Jill has spent the last decade struggling to understand what drove four young british men to murder so many of their fellow countrymen It's the big question, isn't it? How do we stop this ever happening again? And how do we each play a role? And that's what I think is the continuous journey that is still I'm still on 10 years later I'm glad she's getting along. I'm glad she's getting along with her life And she hasn't let this affect her like She's done her best to not let this affect her Too much She set up a charity called make a difference a network of people around the world working to defeat extremism and promote peace I'm often confronted with that wall of hatred of the absolute division of us and them and I become a them To somebody who feels that they're part of a group called the us And it's breaking that that barrier breaking through that group And saying that actually i'm living proof that we are all one That we are one humanity The group of seven seven bombers led by muhammad siddiq khan and his extremist lamest views Had turned inwards and become so fueled by hatred that it seemed right to kill dozens of innocent people fellow muslims amongst them Their path to radicalization is now very familiar 10 years on Terror attacks by Islamist extremists have taken lives across the world and governments everywhere are wrestling with the problem since 2005 the Number of potential young children or young people being attracted to terrorism Has accelerated to the rate now Where in 2015 barely a day goes by without just reading about some young person being corrupted brainwashed and To travel up to syria or other parts of the world to train to be terrorists Jill Hicks's determination is shared by others whose lives were changed by seven seven Never again has become their pledge to those who died to do everything in their power to prevent another such atrocity I just can't bear the thought that another family Might have to experience what we've had to experience That that is too much And so if I can do anything to stop another family having that experience I will do it And I will talk to whoever and say whatever is necessary to prevent any other family having to undergo Like as he sits here and talks like you can't help but like think about what if this was What if I was in his shoes and that was my like I'd be sick I'd definitely be I I wouldn't be right I wouldn't be right. I'm not even gonna say what I'd be on but I wouldn't be right I could be like there. I don't know. I don't know how I would be able to cope. I don't know how I'd be able to We did The bereaved and the survivors continue to bear witness to what they've gone through Speaking to young people in danger of radicalization Me being angry is not going to change what's happened to me But if I can put my um energy into something positive And make a lot of the difference to the life of one person or two, you know Then, you know, it would have been worth it. You talk about That we still don't know what happened. What's the purpose of doing something like that? What's the purpose of the relevant setting off a bum on the london underground and what's it achieved? I don't think it's achieved anything right Hasn't changed the world In that sense it's changed people's world on the Individual level but on a macro level Nobody should die Nobody should die ever again. There is no need 7 7 achieved absolutely nothing for any cause No laws were changed No actions ensued that The islamist extremists could claim were a victory It was a completely pointless mass murder event Yeah, just for the record. So we got a moise and I chain and Philip beer Anna brant Kiran kassidy Carrie taylor at edgeware road michael stanley bruster jonathan downey david fuchs Every anniversary survivors rescuers and the bereaved gather to remember 7 7 Laura susan well michael matzushita If we meet up for the 7th of july um And it's almost as if we've we've never been apart You don't need to speak Um, everybody there knows why we're there and you feel like you're your best friends You you're there for one reason and you don't have to discuss that reason A decade on the bonds remain unbroken Particularly between those who gave comfort to one another underground Every year every 7 7 I will send him an email saying thank you my guardian angel I know Thelma refers to me as her guardian angel and uh Yeah, I suppose person her opinion I am but I think anyone else would have done the same thing in the same situation I think he played a significant part um To my survival and for that I will be forever um Grateful I think people I thought they played a relatively small role or some people thought they played a relatively big role But they don't want any win at nonishment for it. And I think what Carrie did And many others but Carrie in my instance um It's it's terrific and it's um It's it's a bond between you because how can there not be a bond between you after after those moments to him I was the most wonderful person alive And that was quite strange to get that kind of feedback when you just think you're doing something ordinary You don't really think about you know Uh, it's just awed me. It's a reaction. You know, you've got someone there who needs help you help them And you don't appreciate at the time how much that means to somebody 7 7 was a day that changed lives forever The price Tim Coulson paid for his courage in jumping into the carriage that day Was years of post-traumatic stress over the years since july 2005 People have asked a whole range of questions and one of them is often Would you do that again? I don't know how to answer that question. I don't truly believe anybody would I would like to think I would I'd like to think I'd be able enabled to do Your track record shows you are that type of man Simple as that So but I've absolutely no idea whether that would be fact or fiction Let's look at the positives. I'm much taller than I used to be. Um I'm sorry. Okay She did it. So it's okay if I laugh I You know, I've I've Proven to myself that I can do things. I never thought that were possible. So that's okay. But but now I've got this new little person She doesn't know mum with legs And she's just just over two now. So we're we're getting to this really interesting time when Kids have stopped a lot of stuff and they'll heal a lot of pain She just takes off And I can't chase after her so and but but we don't have enough language yet For me to reason with her to say look mummy can't chase after you There's never a day that goes by where I don't think about it, but uh, again, I'm able to control it I'm able to suppress it and You know, I've since then I've think my girlfriend at the time I've married her had a couple of kids So so again, I'm sort of, you know, I'm in a happy place. So For me, there's no need to think about You know, these people who are politically motivated to to potentially kill people to me You know, they're just I don't really want to get in the summer day really I honestly just pray that I never have to be in a situation like this I pray that no one else has to be in a situation like this period But like the day she died I died if that makes sense She went she meant so much I say to me, but she meant the same to her dad and to her brother It's just I wanted more I'm selfish like that. I didn't want just 24 years. I didn't think that was I wasn't ready to give her back You go to bed and you walk past his bedroom When you come get up in the morning, you walk past his bedroom When you sit down for dinner, he's not there as a family. We always sat down together Um It was And still is very very difficult That morning it didn't matter to any single person Whether I was male or female what color my skin was whether I had a faith or no faith at all All that mattered was that I was a human being That stayed with me for the last 10 years and will stay with me for the rest of my life It's absolutely no question that on july 7 2005 you saw the worst of humanities no question about that statement But equally In many cases and many In many cases of people who weren't trained who were just ordinary people who haven't saw publicity or fame or Gratitude you also saw the best of humanity and that's people just saying I'm gonna help Like I have I have a real thing about mind in my business You know I'm saying but like if something like this was to happen to God forbid Like I I you know I'm saying that that human factor take over was like, you know A lot of people are hurt. Look what can I do? Let's let's get it done All right Peter all those victims man, I hope I just continue to hope that nothing to happen like this ever again I mean from this moment and forward You know I'm saying till I leave a like comment