 And we're live welcome to 21 live. I'm Anthony dream Johnson founder of the 21 studios in the 21 convention yours for today's episode On the show with me today. I have the one and only Nicholas cloud. He is the Individual primarily responsible for introduced me to the red pill and particularly the work of Rola Tomasi back in 2016 At the under 21 convention and around that time frame Nick welcome to the show Anthony, it's good to be back with you. Hell. Yeah I need to also make clear to that Nick clouds taken on a pretty important role with us in terms of managing our web properties and web Presence over time and he's been an absolutely fantastic asset for that role in the company So thanks for coming on again, man. Appreciate it. Yeah, no problem so the goal today shows talk about a number of Issues within 21 studios with regard to our presence on YouTube our websites and properties like 21 University the service and Then bringing people on board to help out with the initiatives and goals we have in that direction In particular when Nick clouds been working on for us for a couple months now is a complete rebuild and Transformation for the 21 University service that you guys know where you can get all your videos from 21 studios early and ad-free Nick did you want to talk about a little bit why that is? From your perspective. Yeah, well, I'll back up a little bit in time First though the way I got involved with 21 studios and and doing tech work for Anthony Was because I started using the 21 University website myself I signed up and became a member went to the under 21 convention And they were just parts of the site that had some specific issues that weren't working quite right so I reached out to Anthony and I said hey, I can look at this and You know, it's what I do for a living maybe help you out just volunteer a little bit and And fix this because it was a valuable asset to me to my personal growth as a as a human being and as a man And I wanted to contribute back in The specific way that I could so that's how I think actually remember that specific email to by the way Yeah, yeah, we had a couple of back and forth and it was around the forum 21 campus forum Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah the campus. Yep. That's still coming. It is good. Well, it works now. It works now We fix it got it going You know, so that's how I became involved with the project and So over time I've been doing some extra work on the site for Anthony and just helping Kind of any technical needs that that have arisen One thing that started becoming apparent as I was attending additional 21 conventions I I've been to two of the full events now Plus the under 21 convention one thing that became apparent was an Anthony's kind of vision for growth of 21 University and The sheer volume of video content that he is producing Those two goals were kind of incompatible with the setup that we have now The the website has worked really well up to this point. It still works well, but it's not It's not really scalable to the extent that Anthony's vision needs it to be so we started brainstorming and You know and I've been a software developer now for Probably 13 years and I've done a lot of different types of projects and so I started brainstorming on what what would we need to do to? actually take this and And and make it something better something faster something more scalable than what it is now so we came up with a plan and I've been working on doing some of the Implementation of that just to see proof of concept type of stuff If we could make it work and we're at a point now. We're we're guests. We think that's totally feasible But what we need is some additional talent to help actually Execute the entire plan Yeah, I mean you're basically building a small Netflix style service and scratch is like is in a way what we're doing Is that an accurate to kind of description of it? Yeah, that's that's name. Yeah, that's pretty much exactly right We have some additional. I mean Netflix is pretty much just streaming video and I think 21 University is mostly that but then we have other things that are That are also a part of that service, you know our forums and things that we want to add so that users have Value added on top of the videos as part of being a subscriber you get a bunch of additional things So we have we have what we we're working with now plus features We want to add to benefit users later on so there's a big scope of work That let's let's pause here too for a second. We're doing this and this isn't going on now We've been working on this in 2017 to 2018 That's exactly at the time where YouTube channels like Sargon of the Cod and Jordan B. Peterson are getting kicked off YouTube Temporarily or in some cases other channels are getting deleted. So we're we're working on like, you know We're talking about scalability and like the goals of the company and the goals of the service We're also doing it in a context in an environment. That's like hostile to Any channel or media company that's in any way controversial Like even stepping a little bit outside the approved borders, you know, you just get your channel gets is a risk-getting nuked You know, I found this channel over 10 years ago and every day over the past year I'd say that's on my mind like is it channel gonna be fine today? Probably but it could also just get deleted by some SJW feminist at YouTube or Google who doesn't like it and 21 University and rebuilding gets the way to get away from that Right, that's something that we've talked about a lot In general like in software we we try to avoid reinventing the wheel but at this point We are in a cultural context where if you don't control that wheel and your Your primary means of communication is video and the platforms that do stream video are actively working against You or your your ideas of the people who share those ideas then You have to consider alternatives and that's the goal here is for us to to have a solid backup and an alternative that we control So that we don't have to worry about Getting demonetized or you know getting banned Yeah, the way the way I've seen it is it's like a security and And reliability issue like our our continued ability to put videos on YouTube and on the web is like hindered without something like 21 University to back it up that we have command over and control over to a huge extent versus YouTube where we have like We're at their mercy. Whatever they want to do Right, I mean that that's it. They're you know, they have term of service and shit But they'll easily it's all like vague and very easy to manipulate or use for what purpose they have And the one thing and I don't think you and I have talked about this It's something I have thought about is that you know, we value the privacy and the security of our users Like you use our site when you're when you're using YouTube, you're you know, you're using your Google account I mean, that's a that's tied to so many things And Google as we've seen recently You know, it isn't exactly amenable to people who are looking to Sources of truth or sources of information that they consider to be Non-politically correct. So being able to to protect our users and their privacy. I think is You know really beneficial for us and that's part of the security aspect of this is that we want to lock that down and Control it it's independence essentially and we're also and you're right when they're on YouTube, you know, YouTube's been great for us Personally to this company over 10 years But that could change in any point and in the meantime to the extent you are critical of YouTube and Google You're feeding the beast by giving them tons of data, right? Right. I mean, but that's been discussed probably in many channels at this point But yeah, don't feed the beast if you don't have to right exactly. So what we're looking for As far as technical talent part of the reason we're having this live stream is You know, I know there are a lot of people out there a lot of guys out there who Both have a passion for what 21 Studios does for the information that 21 Studios puts out and also have technical chops who have also worked in the software world and sort of interrupt you but Sam Bota the audible or the audible Narrator for the rational most areas books want to just gave us a super chat donation. So thank you, Sam Appreciate it very much. Yeah, hell. Yeah, awesome Please continue. Sorry about that. No, but I'm saying so so if you're out there if you're listening to this and you are Involved in software development if you have some experience with open-source software, you just want to get onto a project and donate some of your time There are there are plenty of things to do Anthony and I have thought about ways to incentivize and reward people whether it's discounts on tickets to the convention Whether it's a personal references on on resumes Using this project as a portfolio piece type of thing You know giving attribution to anyone who contributes on a public about page for this If any of that sounds interesting to you and you want to and you think you want to work with some cutting-edge Technologies you're interested in doing some remote work. Again, this is all on a volunteer basis You know this that's the kind of person we're looking for who's just hungry for this type of thing and who who really loves the vision of 21 studios and would love to be part of this hell. Yeah, let me double down on what you just said to you See mentioned in particular discount to attending the main event the 21 convention I'm all to go up to you and this is bait. This will be based on Nick clouds judgments So I'm gonna leave this up to Nick But Nick has the ability to give whoever works on 21 University up to and including not just a discount But a free ticket to the event a free in the sense that you won't pay for it other than in you know The work you contributed to 21 University or whatever else Nick wants you to do and that's that this year By the way is not going to be 1499 the final price for your ticket here to an event to the event is going to be 1799 So you could get up to $1,800 off basically attending the event just fucking huge Yeah, and of course you would get a free membership to 21 University century. There you go. Yeah, you help be help building it so But yeah, that's what we're looking for The technical detail I won't go into the technical details here other than we will explore streaming video things like that So it's basic web application Membership and all that stuff gets handled where it's all gonna be based on open source technologies If you have a resume or a github Account you can send that to end cloud at 21 studios tech I would be happy to dialogue with you and take a look at that and share a bit of What we're doing and what's been accomplished so far But yeah, we are at a point right now where we need some extra minds some extra bodies and some extra fingers typing on those keyboards To produce something that I think will be truly amazing Hell yeah, and I'll by the way, I didn't mention this but I'm gonna put link to Whatever way want to contact they want to contact you in the video description underneath the video once it's done So email address we can put a link to the contact form anything like that 100% perfect you mentioned to you by the way the vision of 21 studios and that is In my experience of running this business now for over 11 years technically It's a single most important thing that I think anyone On a volunteer or employment basis for this company can have in any generalized sense of that term Your love for the work we do and the vision the issues is like paramount above and beyond anything else above and beyond even something like competence Skill set experience like you need to be dedicated to what we're doing and that is really valuable to me It produces. I mean, it's what you have Nick like you've been to three events now And you understand like how important and serious these issues are and the same with Mike McNally and a number of other guys Speakers and you know staff that work with us That's fucking huge. Otherwise people fade out and they don't do They don't do the best work Yeah, yeah, exactly But you have to be passionate for something and let that that has to be a labor of love and a lot of respects And you know kind of dovetailing on to that if you're if you're that type of person if you're that type of If you're really passionate about this and you mean you may not think you have The technical chops But maybe you want to get your foot into this or maybe you're you're kind of junior at this Still reach out and contact me because there may be ways that we can still plug you in and mentor you and Let you learn Alongside this for the time that you want to put in You know mentorship and and and sharing knowledge. I get really strongly believe in that and this is a good project to To expose yourself to different things and to help your own career Move forward and Nick. What's the most? Important code set that's that will be useful for you JavaScript, right? Yeah, JavaScript Yeah, 100% of JavaScript and then just experience with you know HTML and CSS If you got it, you know basic relational database any flavor of SQL But those are kind of the the the core Technologies that we're using yeah, okay, we also mentioned we were talking privately, you know program live you mentioned merit That's something that I can't speak highly enough of in terms of like working with people in any capacity for any job But did you want to comment on that as well from your tech perspective working in the tech industry as you do? Independent of 21 studios Yeah, yeah, so one of the biggest things at least in my career that has helped me You know, I'm kind of self-taught I kind of waffled around in school for about a year and then dropped out once I actually found a job but I ended up doing nights and weekends and Teaching myself and and hammering out source code on the you know on my spare time So I strongly believe that when you when you come to the table and you want to bring You know you want something from the table that you have to be able to give something in exchange You know we we are 21 studios is a merit-based organization. That's you know what I love about it It's all about you know Excellence first and making being the best version of yourself and putting your best foot forward and that's those those things should be Rewarded and that's what we want to see and people who want to come on to this project Is that they're willing to put their best foot forward and say yes, I can do this. I will do this And you know, I know that I'm worth the effort that I'll put into it Yeah, and this is so all this is irrelevant though or it's irrelevant in the sense that or So basically if you if you're white Asian black Jewish bald old skinny fat None of that matters for we're asking for it What matters is merit and the love with the work right and you mentioned though than tech right now like it's particularly James D'Amore is a pretty famous example at this point, but Yeah, apparently in larger companies the merit of your work no longer matters if you have an unapproved opinion Well, it's not only in larger companies too. This is going on So right now that that the tech industry is very hostile towards heterosexual white men and Probably probably actually white gay men too. They're probably in a similar boat as we are but I can point to a number of different things that have happened just recently In the tech community that that proved that this case there was not long ago So the one of the technologies that we that we're using in the new version of 21 studios called node J s Not long ago. There was a a bit of drama where one of the members of the technical committee who is responsible for maintaining node J s was essentially almost burned at the stake by the Code of conduct committee for the project who is was you can imagine how those two committees are composed One is probably composed of technical talent of people who are serious about the work and the other is composed of people with blue hair Yeah, so Yes, yes, they went to burn him at the stake and and he published a big long article in his defense and in the in the Aftermath that ensued someone started noticing that people on the code of conduct committee who were who are criticizing him started pointing out Their tweets and things that they were saying publicly and it was things like oh kill all white men or Shit, yeah, or stop Stop hiring cis white men forever problems with sexism solved or soon We shall purge all men from our communities and we'll actually be able to get work done without the likes of you I mean, these are public public tweets Never underestimate the wrath of a mildly inconvenienced white dude These are tweets by people who were on the code of conduct committee who are judging this man for Some very minor Thing that he did that was ended up being a kind of basically a misunderstanding the committee voted 60% to keep them a 60 to 40 because it was so absurd. That's pretty close. That's pretty close. It is close and it's It's it's insane. So that is that and that is not even in a corporation. This is the nature This isn't an open source Project a foundation that's under the Linux foundation. So yeah, so the the the And it's safe to assume that the 40% who voted against them these people it sounds like they're extremely racist It's what it just to put it just to make it very very clear racist and sexist I mean, it's very there's no there's no way to read that to read those things and be like, oh You know, this is I guess if they kill all the white men, they'll leave some white women But I mean fuck like holy shit, right exactly So so yeah, so you're right. So the the environment both and in corporate America and and even in the open source communities They're very hostile right now. So, you know, if if if you're a man and you want to To be in a place where you have people who who can't who will support you on the merits of your work This is this is the kind of project that we run. It's not I don't care what your Your religion or sexual orientation is there anything like I'm looking for your merits. I'm looking for what you can do With the code what you can bring to this project to make it awesome The same is true for speakers at the 21 convention. I mean the whole company's run like this I don't care what you know, we've had gay speakers at the convention now. We've had white black Asian Indian John part Jewish myself like Ross Jeffries is obviously full Jew See, we have a whole variety and yeah, because it's all about merit and what the issues are on the truth I mean, it's not apparent this point guys with 21 studios is a platform for truth Regardless of whether or not it pisses someone off or a million people off Yeah, the same is true with the people on work with Exactly Yeah, so that's the kind of that's kind of team and that's the kind of people that we want on this project There's not gonna be a there's not gonna be a code of conduct attached to the project that tries to you know I Legislate your every thought and every every move and every code commit It's just gonna be the quality of your code and whether or not You're just a civil and get along with your teammates and are passionate about what we're doing. That's pretty much it I want to know then, you know power kind of end cap better pause on that and say that What you're doing with 21 University specifically independent of all other web presence and things that we do It's super super important because of being the risk of being the platformed on YouTube and anything else like we were on vid me For a while too, but the whole platform shut down. Yeah, that's another issue I'm looking now into using like a steam it and like d-tube and stuff like that And I hope those take off, but they also might just disappear next month like vid me yeah, I tried to pull up I tried to pull up videos on D-tube today and I was getting a bunch of errors So I don't know if that was a small hiccup or if they're just experiencing a scale scaling issues and but yeah seeing seeing these alternative tube sites pop up is is great and You know, we hope that that there's more traction there for sites that actually value free speech and diversity by actual ideas and not just want to be an echo chamber for pre approved rubber stamped politically correct ideology, but At the same time you're still You know, you're still relying on someone else to have your to be your platform and You know, there's always there's always a risk there I mean Nick Let me ask you this from my perspective as a founder and CEO of this company the rebuild of 21 University is vital for the future like continuation of the entire company because of The way the internet's been you know being transformed and the risks present to any controversial media company that has anything to say outside of You know go feminism and go SJW irrational irrational nonsense. Yeah, which you know, we're way outside of that So I don't know if we'll have this YouTube channel in five days or five years But at some point bad things could happen and I definitely want something at 21 University Being a solid and reliable as possible, you know off-site or off YouTube and off-platform Yeah, it's vital in that sense. Yeah, I think so and not only that but you know I just heard today that the UK barred entry first of several quote-unquote alt right personalities of which one was a Tommy Lauren who you're probably Somewhat familiar with her at least. I don't know if I there's a rapper too who got banned. It's like some guy who just wraps Yeah, yeah But then reminded me of like so this that you have an entire country who's banning people their entry based on an Ideology and on the internet you have countries like say China who can Basically go to Google and say hey We're gonna we're going to disallow or you have to disallow this level of content from YouTube or whatever We don't want that in China. So it's you know, if you want people to hear the truth It's it's much easier for for Google or YouTube at a national level to Say, okay, well, we just won't show your people that versus if you're if you own your own platform You have your own site. Maybe the government of China is not really going to be Interested in snooping out 21 studios, maybe they will be I don't know. Hopefully it gets big enough But we'll see my keynote Mike. Did I send you my keynote yet the video of it the review? No, well, I think you did I haven't had a chance to look at it yet you're you were in it of course too, but me and Socrates watched the other night in person Orlando and I'm very excited to put it out and more than I ever have about any other video in history of 21 studios But I get triggered watching the speech that I gave it's that triggering So I'm like, I'm like we got a batten down the fucking hatches like holy shit This is gonna be it'll be the biggest truth bomb we've ever dropped are definitely the most controversial video Yeah, basically and now is the time to be dropping those truth bombs because yeah, the foundations are shaking pretty hard and You know people need people need these ideas more than ever Yeah, we need a carpet bomb truth. Just keep keep dropping truth bombs as many as possible Yeah And 21 universe like you said right now it works and it works pretty well, but in a long enough time span It's just not scalable to what we need right You know, let me let me say this too. We currently rely on For video hosting for example, we use private We don't use We're not directly hosting videos ourselves on a private server They're being hosted by a video hosting company. That's not YouTube. I don't even want to say it just to keep it private But and that's fine, but they might kick us off as one a long enough time span even independent of any publicity that they get from it including zero so I don't know if that makes sense, but yeah, so everybody watching like, you know, the universities it stands is pretty Safe and secure, but it's not as strong as it needs to be and rebuilding it's gonna accomplish that from the ground up Yeah, absolutely. So we've been a lot of chats and some super chats and discussion here, too Should go through some of this Someone actually asked any chance of a convention or event in Australia, which reminds me of a UK comment So for those of you don't know this Nick clouds only been to the conventions in America in Florida We've had the convention the 21 convention all around the world Including Melbourne, Australia and London England twice and Sweden. I Do not believe currently or within the next half decade that we could have a 21 convention event in Australia and the United Kingdom or in Sweden I would either get personally banned or the event would in some way be absolutely shut off by the government in some way Rouge for example is a potential speaker for this convention any day of the week He's banned from the United Kingdom. Absolutely. He was banned I think by the current prime minister of the United Kingdom personally before she became prime minister So in terms of countries It's very similar to what's happening on the internet like I can't bring the convention to Australia right now And I wanted to I wanted to bring it to Sydney Very much interested in going back to Europe with the event But we can't go to the UK We'll get kicked out or banned before the event even takes off And then we'll lose a ton of money time and resources that were put into that event that got cancelled The internet, you know with 20 universities the same way Like we can't I want to keep growing the YouTube channel investing in that but you know that might not play out long term We might get banned kicked off of it for some reason So in terms of event in Australia Sydney is the goal, but I don't know when that's gonna happen And it might take 10 20 years because your country right now is very hostile to Anything critical of feminism and anything for that matter outside of the approved thinking box Which we have increasingly gotten into over time Hope that answers the question from Squizzo Manizzo as his username Nick I also want to talk a little bit while we're on the call with talk about other Possibilities in the company of people to work with us So for those of you watching The primary thing that we want to work on right now is 21 University by far So if you have interest in that look in the video description for links for how to get involved with that more Including a cloud's email, and then we'll put into my links and stuff like that Beyond that though if you understand working at 21 studios either as a volunteer as an intern or long term getting on board more officially Very much understood having you if you've been following this chat along and these issues are important to you They make sense in what with regard to merit and love of the issues in the company I'll take the little bit further though. So if you have experience with WordPress Sales like phone sales or even to the web Copywriting skills graphic design photoshop cloud computing customer support Really if you're just a hard-working young man who's competent and loves his company I want to hear from you If you're interested in working with the company in some capacity and that could be again on a volunteer basis as a short-term internship Or long term getting more involved involved more officially. I Don't know if you had any input on that Nick But floor is yours if you have some cloud computing for example was your input on that one Yeah, I just think you know as the as the project progresses later on down the road We will need people who have some level of expertise and and Cloud computing just because we're gonna you know storage is gonna be an issue Fast read only access to video streams. That's gonna be an issue This we're probably a few steps off from that But if you know if that's something that you have experience with just keep it in the back of your mind and you know again You know contact me it'd be great to just you know get in touch and Connect on LinkedIn because that's what the cool kids do. No, that's not what cool kids do No connect me on LinkedIn cool kids go to 21 studio or twilight convention. That's right. So they do Yeah speaking of video hosting though a lot of guys a lot of people are not you know Intimately involved in making videos maybe in your phone. You make some everyone's in a while I'll say this my keynote that I was just talking with you about No, I can't even it's such a huge speech. It's over two hours that I Actually have to create different versions of different bit rates to export because we have a 20 gigabyte limit for a single file With the current video host for 21 University so Just to put it in perspective one speech can be anywhere from 10 to 20 gigabytes or more For one fucking speech that has to be hosted and in that sense I'm thankful that YouTube has done that for not only our channel, but everyone on the internet, you know free video hosting It's super very reliable and very fast But that's what we're up against long term And as it's technology advances You know those video sizes they might grow over time that could go down to you to ping on and coding You know technology and stuff like that But generally like before if we shoot 4k at the convention this year, which I'd love to do a Two-hour speech or even an hour speech would be easily 20 30 40 gigabytes or more So we are file a our need for like video hosting over over time particularly with a private You know service like 21 University is huge never mind different, you know coding styles or resolutions underneath that That's the full one Then there's like the 1080p version the 720p version the 40p version and on down the line which just rack up You know hosting space That's a shit ton of videos, yeah Yeah, it's it's crazy dude like I have some I have like in my own home I have like 20 hard drives Well, that's just that's just one location where the videos are hosted never mind on the web never mind with the video editor You know the director Yeah, we have tons and tons and tons of shit Guys if you have any questions, too, you can go ahead and ask in the chat with regard to what's going on I don't know if you saw this to Nick the live chat. You can actually see it on the on the video itself Give you a link cool Yeah, thanks for the super chats guys. We've gotten a few more keep it coming All right. Well Nick We don't have to keep going. Is there anything else you'd like to kind of close out with in terms of Inviting people to work with what we're doing on a volunteer basis or by the wise you know just just gonna say that You know when you when you when you come to this project They think about like what you want to get out of it like what what you bring to the table in terms of your skills But also what you want to get out of it, whether it's a resume being a resume piece being You know a way to to connect to network with other professional Developers if you're kind of new to development if you just need to get up and get your feet into some very current technologies You know this this can really work for you as well I'm like I said, I've been in the software world for about 13 years. I've worked with a lot of different teams I have what I consider to be a pretty smooth development life cycle You know, I believe in making progress quickly failing early failing fast You know delivering small chunks incrementally over time So I have a pretty good handle on what needs to be done and how to do it You've written a few books as well, haven't you? Yes Yeah, I've co-written two books one was on called a modern web development It's outdated now since it's probably about four years old So nothing nothing modern about it now and then I wrote a couple years ago I wrote a book on the JavaScript for a lot of JavaScript libraries that I've used and That's I've been very helpful in my career. So yeah, yeah, those were both those good experience I will never I don't know if I'll ever write another technical book again. You know, that's a year of your life You don't get back, but it's yeah But yeah question to us is I was just thinking about is there any Minimums that you were required from someone like someone mentioned that they only had done the live chat They had one year of experience with something and it sounded like yeah, he said they only had yes So raised reborn said to bite only have one year of back-end experience Just back and I would say I would say the minimum would be you have to have some level of full stack So you have to have done both front and back end You know, you have to kind of have to know how to stand up a web app basically as far as the technologies go Yes, JavaScript. It's a very strong preference for that. If you've only had experience with JavaScript on the client, that's okay So that's for example, if you do like PHP on your back end or some Java or something like that. That's fine You know, we're using node. So it's all it's JavaScript front back, which is fantastic You know, but as far as a minimum, yeah, you can set it you can set up a web app It would be kind of where I draw that line and then evaluate evaluate after that Perfect exactly. I think it's exactly what the guys needed Sweet well, I think we're gonna wrap up the chat It's been awesome Nick as always talking with you. Yeah, thanks for having me on We should have been the red man group sometime talk repil issues man 100% that'd be fun Cool. Well Nick. Thanks for your time. Everyone else. Thanks for tuning in live to 21 live with Anthony Johnson and Nick cloud Hope you're from you soon you'll look in the video description underneath the video for link and contact information from Nick and get involved also Give a specific link as well for getting involved with the company outside of what Nick's doing with 21 University So that could be WordPress development graphic design customer support anywhere. You want to get involved with us on a Volunteer internship basis. I'll give you guys a special link for that But that said gentlemen appreciate your time Nick. Thank you very much Stand the call. I'm gonna end the live stream. We can chat a little bit. That's good. You guys peace