 I think the most progress for women at this point, it's sad to say, but that knowledge meant that there is a problem. And I'm a member of a group of 65 research university CIOs that have been gathering regularly for the last 20 years. I've only been a part of that for the last three years when I became a CIO. So in the CIO jobs of these 20 major research universities, the average for women in the CIO position of those universities was only 15% over the last 20 years. Over the last three years, we've gained to 28% are women. So I think we're starting to see some of the leadership of the major universities really increase to be women. But I think really we still have a lot of work to do and we don't have necessarily the up and comers that are ready to take these positions. So I think we have to really look at that.