 We're in the studio with Marie Szebac, who's just drawn a game with Joe Galca. Can you tell me something about the game? I don't know what to play this morning and finally I chose my variation that I played a lot of time and he prepared for this game so after it was draw because it was just a theoretical game and some games like Maxim Vachele and Graf Caruana are all drawn with this novelty with B5 and D5. So it's a Sicilian B5 variation? Yeah, and I play a lot of time B5. Did you know that Joe played this line? Yes, I know, but I didn't think he would prepare for this line because it's very dangerous but he knows this line and I was not very happy with my position. So you decided to bail out? Did you offer the draw? Yes. If you played him many times before? No, it's my first time. I played with Joseph and it was my second time in Gibraltar. Okay, let's have a look at the game. Okay Marie, we're looking at the position after 13 B3 and what happened next? Now I played many times this position and I have very good results but I don't like this move because it's a new move and I don't know what to do. Have you seen this idea before? And all game with this move is draw. Now it's changed to D5 and now I play just this and all pieces will be changed and it will be draw. So you just think it's level after this and there's no opportunity? Is there any opportunity for Black to play on here? Do you expect him to accept the draw? No, I think many games are drawing this position. They are like five or six games and all it's a draw. Alright, so it's a drawing line. This is what we should all be trying to play to get draws against grandmasters. Maybe I have to change my variation and don't know because I didn't expect that he would win. With play B5? Yeah. Okay.