 Right, we're both recording so 10th of February. Is it the 10th? I'm looking at his birthday from Aquarius rising Africa birthday shawty Real friend. It's really interesting. So it was your birthday last Friday It's shawty's from a quest writing Africa today, and it's my friend my lovely lovely friend Susie who's The world expert on dragons. It's her birthday tomorrow. So happy birthday to you for tomorrow Susie Hello, we are her talk about dragons. She knows so she does a lot of gets a lot of messages from dragons So hope she doesn't mind me saying that I'm sure she doesn't so anyway before we get into a discussion today How are you doing? Good? I think I think we're all kind of I know we spoke for a long time yesterday Catherine offline I think I think we're all feeling The vibrational weirdness of the stat it feels staticky and I told you yesterday like you know my dog Ravi He was behaving very strange I think a lot of animals are behaving strange and when I lived in California in the background Fisters down there They've just got back from a very long walk because I've got a very busy afternoon and evening of recording So they've had their normal for that exhausted, but yeah, isn't it weird? There's a lot of it going on my horses have just been sort of Galloping across the field and things like that in quite kicking their head their legs up in glee actually, but yeah Yeah, interesting vibrations isn't it so much going on and so much Backwards forwards is it isn't it isn't it isn't it? How are you feeling in the headspace? How are you feeling in terms of where you're being drawn to put your focus price? I want to focus on What what it our own again? We kind of spoke about this before we started filming our every individual. I think the biggest I Guess deep programming we all have to do is allowing somebody to dictate stuff for us and understanding What manipulation really is and what free will really is which I know that we that's what we were going to talk about a little bit today is like Understanding where we have boundaries with other people when other people try to control our own choices in our own free will And that's something that each it's like that Michael Jackson song man in the mirror It's like you we all have to take accountability for our own actions to really move into a new a new world of more positive energy It starts with us individually taking accountability for how we do try to manipulate or how we do try to coerce somebody into like Giving up their free will in order to do what we want and in my opinion when we do stuff like that Whether we're conscious of it of subconscious or conscious of it It's because of our own fear of our own of our own fragile state and when we try to manipulate other people's free Well, it's because I think we're afraid of our of our own divinity in the fact that maybe the universe doesn't support us Like they support other people which is simply not true the universe supports every person And we have to have that respect for other people's lives, too. If that makes sense. I hope that makes sense Oh, it makes massive sense to me and it's so interesting because it's so we would like watch me talk about this We've got so such a list of topics we want to talk about One thing I've been noticing so much over the last sort of month or two And I know it can seem quite picky to people and it can be quite irritating when People sort of pay too much attention to language But we know that language is a spell and what I've been noticing a lot recently Is how many times whether it's people who are doing videos or whether it's people leaving the comments are Using language like we must or or you must or we have to or we need to so need must things when anyone's telling you what you need to do What you have to do what you must do However, trivial it might seem people might say oh, I just didn't think about my words But actually look at the Gemarche aside of things look at things There's a reason why we say these things why we write these things and there's an energy behind that isn't it? And that's almost like the subtler side of things of what you were just talking about It's coming through at so many different levels and we become so used to it that we don't need it We don't notice it, but I've noticed how many people are You know sending me stuff and things which I really appreciate but you need to do this You must do this you must contact this person. You must listen to this you have to do this And I'm like whoa hang on a minute Yeah, it's like that out one of my favorite Alan Watts quotes when somebody I think I've mentioned it before when you know This big question like what is life? Why are we alive? What's the point of life and he basically said the point of life is to be alive the only thing you need to do is live That's it and and yeah, I think that you know, I've been noticing lately too When people have a habit sometimes of stating their opinions as facts And that's trying to be better about that myself saying like in my opinion or I think this way saying that this is this is just my Perspective doesn't mean it's the truth or it has to be your perspective And I think that's something you and I both like Catherine is hearing other people's perspectives because when you hear other people's perspectives It shapes it either makes you Believe your own opinion more or it allows you to shift your opinion a little bit because opinions are always changing And I do think sometimes when people state their opinions as facts whether they're aware of it or not That also is a form of manipulation You know, and it's kind of like what we're seeing with the whole Circus happening around us at the moment won't say too much about it where there is a lot of propaganda and a lot of Manipulating facts in order to coerce people into doing things that they wouldn't do under clear clear headspace and You know, I just I think about people who do like to manipulate regardless of whether they're aware of it or not I just think like I would never want to have a life where the people in my life regardless of whether they were a spouse A partner or friends a lover or whatever were with me just because I had done something to coerce them Into being with me, you know, I would want my people around me to be with me because they like me, you know You know, and they feel safe with me, you know It's you know You never remember what people say to you But you always remember the way they make you feel and I remember my eighth grade teacher told us that I think it wasn't my Angela quote, but I don't remember but the whole my whole life I've been like I don't want people to feel like I'm tricking them or like I'm trying to get something from them You know, I want people in my life to want to be with me because or hang out with me or whatever You know because they actually like my company and I like theirs because when you're in that relaxed state of non manipulation Not trying to control each other's minds. That's when the vibration can raise because you're both respecting each other sovereignty And that's a true relationship, isn't it? And I think it's a really really important point that you've You've made them and there's with all the stuff that's going on one of the things that just hasn't sat with me This isn't an opinion in terms of people are doing things right or wrong, but he's just never sat right with me Is the fact let's take the black cats the white hats and let's simplify it and you know Well, they have to do this because they're playing again against the black cats therefore They have to play against their own game. Well, no, they don't so for example My daughter played brilliant black football this weekend and what you do is you look at your opposition And if they've got a certain play Then there's so many different strategies you can employ There's never just one strategy and if they've got a certain game of playing you want to disrupt their play You don't do that by playing the same game as them, right? And that might not be a very good analogy But you know the point is is people say well They have to do it because of this and it's the same thing as what we're talking about and do you know what? Throughout this whole thing and you know, I don't know if I'm right or not only time is going to tell But it just doesn't ring true for me. You don't You know we fire with fire. Yeah, there's so many different ways. There's never one It's never solution a or solution b There's a million other options in between and I think this thing about people stating their opinions as facts is Really really important because whoever's listening to whatever videos whatever information reading whatever books They are all just an opinion Science is just an opinion at that point of time and it's never a black or white right and normally in hindsight You get more information that might either back up that opinion or change it completely I think This is where you can see the people that are sort of talking about things in terms of just wanting to discuss it and Keep the debate and the open mind and look at the world through a new pair of eyes Against this is what's happening and that's the fact and it's like it's becoming More more obvious to me. I don't know if it's just because I'm shifting and I'm getting more aware of it But then you and I have both seemed to be noticing this a lot Yeah, well, it's interesting because I see people all the time I have said this I think on your show a couple of times now Catherine like I'm bored With the Matrix I'm bored with talking about the competition that happened in November of you know A couple years ago. I'm trying to be careful what I say I'm bored of that because I'm realizing now that that was just Static over here from what's really happening over here with the over here seems to be again in my opinion So much more exciting and I agree with you like and I think sometimes and I know I know there's this Weird perception. I think a lot of people have You know, especially when we're used to watching TV or seeing movies But in the YouTube world like we're Catherine you and I are just two girls like normal average Human beings that I need to open up a platform any information We have is just from our own research or our own conclusions And it's not doesn't necessarily mean that it's correct And when I started my channel and started researching more of these historical stuff I did it because I knew something was wrong and I wanted to review things and I wanted to see what other people had to say If I can do present the research Let me get the feedback of what you guys think about this because I don't know what the hell is going on And I want to hear what you have to say too, but when people come in and say this is what's happening This is what the white hats are doing. Well, first of all, let me just put this out there This might sound kind of catty, but if we can figure out what the white hats are doing, it's not great They're not that smart. I'm a little concerned, you know So I've accepted in my own path that That there are going to be things that we're not going to understand right now when people walk around and say This is for fact. What's happening that I tend to kind of back away from that because how do you know? Yeah, and and are you is that coming from an ego place or not? It's like and when we're saying I know when we talked last time and we were saying we're bored and Got a little bit of backlash for that But again, we are just two people having our coffee chat on camera and expressing opinions and going through the roller coaster Like everyone else and the thing is just because we've reached a stage where we're bored doesn't mean that we're Criticizing other people that are still in that fact finding so when I was a child and when I have my children And I was teaching them how to ride a bike When you learn to ride a bike a lot of children put stabilizers on To help them stop falling over and then as they get more confident you take the stabilizers off And then once you can ride a bike you don't ever go back to your stabilizers normally We've been we've gone through having our stabilizers on we've gone through taking the stabilizers off and falling over a few times And now we're to stage where we're on our journey We're riding our bikes more on our own and I think this is the thing is everyone is at a different stage I wouldn't expect a three-year-old to not have stabilizers on right? You've you're all on your own unique Stages of discovery and there's some bits why I need to put my stabilizers back on because there's some areas of this information That I'm going into now So you and I had a lovely chat with mark up with the other day and I have got which I've never really paid attention to before I've got really fascinated by The true history of how long have humans been around in different areas of the world How the world was formed now it's hysterical because my husband's really into geology archaeology things like that I never have before and now I'm really fascinated into it because I want to know why It's all been covered up same same that's all yes I'm not at all about it practical and Want to I am very much putting my stabilizers on them because I am starting right from the beginning on that because I have Very little knowledge about all this and it's exciting like as every time I go to the museum And you know when I took the kids to the museum things I used to think why are they not showing us real dinosaur things and I've had this question Not our dinosaurs real or not because we're told there are but why are we not showing the real evidence? This all seems a little bit Disney to me Now again that these are areas that I'm just starting to explore and I'm very much at the beginning And so I'm taking in lots of information for lots of different things and I'm not taking any of it as fact Right, I'm just feeling into it and thinking does that resonate with me or do I need to ask more questions there? Yeah, and that's just a stage the way I do it and just because that's the way you and I do it Doesn't mean it's the way other people need to do it, but everything that's coming to me I'm now Feeling into it not just Intellectualizing it and sort of thinking does they sit comfortably with me or not and if it's a not It's like, okay. I need to I'm really want to do more research on this, you know Even I mean then but I was using it for me And I will say all the stuff that I'm like say I'm bored of now I am bored of but that was where we started like that that's something at the beginning had to happen in order to nudge you to take a look at at the situation with a different perspective and I still have you know the only videos on my channel that have been taken down are the ones that YouTube took down I've left everything up on my channel as far as when I was talking about that stuff more and looking into that stuff more But but again something has happened and I think it started happening to me maybe six months ago And I've always had spiritual experiences. I know you have Catherine I've always known that you know That's what led me off to India was because I was having so many spiritual psychedelic experiences that I wanted to figure out What was going on but now at this point Through all this like nastiness of the matrix that got us to where to wake up You guys know what we're talking about Something kind of evolved out of that whereas like you said I started going Well, why are they doing this? Hmm? Why are they trying to fool us? What is it about us? That's so powerful That they would need to try to keep us down Why are they manipulating us and that has opened up a beautiful path a beautiful path Of who we potentially are in the true history of of our civilization as humans You know the fact I mean I was so ecstatic when I realized in my opinion from some research that the 12 tribes of Israel were Galactic It made sense And I was like oh my gosh. This is this is so exciting. So this junk DNA They say we have is actually going back to possibly our galactic roots And we have family that's not even here on this plane of existence because of that and like that whoa Like that's so exciting and that is where I am interested That that's that's why I'm bored with the matrix is I want us to figure out who we really are Because I think going back to what we started with the manipulation try to control people try to control their free will If you understand that there is something really special about you Then you also understand that there's something special about everybody around you too That same spark of life inside of you is in behind the eyes of your friends your animals the trees And so you start to respect people more because they're just as special and unique as you are and when you have that understanding You stop wanting to control other people you stop wanting because you understand that everybody here has a purpose And that's where I want to start looking at that. That's where I want to go now This earth like I had an awesome conversation with David Cohen yesterday who you introduced us to and he was talking about My god into talking about all these different, you know land masses where there as we talked about with Mark outward Where there's possibly giants and it's like well our earth is so magnificent and we don't even understand the half of it And that's where I feel like my maybe it's because we are getting closer to that flip that some of us feel the need to go to a more positive Place of growth, but yes people who are just now waking up They're gonna have to start from the beginning again And that's why I know I've left my videos off where I talked more about what was happening the 1% their religious practices will say You know, I've left that up because that it that that is a necessary stepping stone But at this point I want to shift forward. I want to figure out like I want to talk about dragons I want to talk about giants. I want to talk about the galactics because that is exciting to me And that's coming from a place of love for humanity And also, I think it's exactly that and you can see just by a body language And I encourage people to look at themselves and say what excites them and for some people It will be this finding out and exploring and going down the rabbit holes So I know when I first started watching fall of the cabal and and now you've got Nick Alvia's good line TV, which has got all this stuff collected in one place, which is absolutely wonderful And you've got all these amazing resources that have sprung up over the last few years to really help people on this journey And I I know when I started down that journey, I had that all about that was up. Oh my goodness Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. And so it's recognizing in yourselves, isn't it? It's like where you are being really happy with that. And I think going back to the thing about the sort of manipulation and that we started off I think that's where you can see it's like any time someone tries to ridicule someone else for where they are on their own individual personal journey Then that sets alarm bells off for me because we've got no right to ridicule anyone else We've all been there got the t-shirt and as I said, there's some areas where I feel quite knowledgeable about now And there's other areas which I've got so little knowledge on completely And I think that's absolutely fine and it's fine for us to all be where we need to be but to recognize it And I was having a conversation with some family members last night about I'm so pleased because of the work I've done over the last sort of 10 15 years that I can recognize so quickly now Where I'm slipping into bad habits when I'm in the company of people that Don't make me feel good or don't bring out the best in me and all these things and and that's not blaming other people It's just now I've got to a stage where it doesn't mean I don't do these things or make mistakes But I can recognize it so much quicker and cause correct so much quicker and then it's not a big issue Yeah, it's like our friend tomorrow's my favorite mantra for us cancel cancel like we need to see those things and you you know We know our thoughts are powerful We know we just don't understand how I don't think we understand exactly how powerful our thoughts really are and when you feel that coming just cancel cancel cancel cancel and And yeah, and I would say too. I believe you know people who feel the need to control and manipulate I think that's coming from a place of fear within them again Their own insecurities and so and again, that's something that only each individual person Can work on themselves and so I would Suggest is just my suggestion that I'm including myself We'd be including that we all start just working on ourselves and try to like break the bondage That we try to put on other people or bind other people to us because of insecurities We may have because even it through manipulation those insecurities are not going to go anywhere They're not going to go anywhere until you work on that and I think going into a new tomorrow a new earth It's going to be required that we we have to start releasing our our our control of situations and just surrendering To to to divinity into the play. I promise you I promise you in my opinion. I promise you that source creator Dave you purpose you don't have to manipulate anybody or anything to not to be enough You are enough. You know as we said at the beginning. You don't have to do anything You are enough as you are And having that feedback I mean what I love about our relationship and some of our other friends we've got is we can have really good discussions about these things and I've got I was out for war with my lovely daughter who is amazing So wise to her age is unbelievable All the years I spent on coaching I should just talk to Lois But in all seriousness, we've noticed a huge shift over the last six months in our dogs Lola and Indian and Lola and Indy have got very special. They're just just a beautiful very special energy about them and There's so much more relaxed at the moment now They've always been relaxed in this situation, but sometimes out and about if they meet people with sticks or Lola sometimes with some other dogs and things and at the moment. She's just Transcended so much of that and a lot of it is because of me because of the work that I've been doing now I'm not taking credit for Lola, but I'm saying what she was doing is a lot of what she was doing is picking up My energy my fuzzy energy because if I'm out and I'm thinking about this and that and some of the things and interactions and conversations I'm having and not in my highest interest and then that of course affects how Confident she feels being with me and now because I'm sort of getting better and better and better at rest in this As I said other people are just really noticing of just how much more relaxed she is When we're out on awards and things because I'm not giving off that high static so to speak. Yeah Yeah, I was totally well That was funny I think I told you cat on a private call with with my my little boy because he I've always thought he was high anxiety Because he was a rescue and there were some abandonment issues. He possibly had and Before I met you Catherine We were working with a trainer and the trainer kept telling me no he's feeding off of your anxiety You're the one that has the anxiety. He's fine. Yeah hit me so hard And and so I try to work on that with him like being cool calm and collected around him And I asked we started saying like yesterday He was he like went back into puppy phase where he was pulling the recycling out when a chew on everything But I think but it was like it wasn't like He I could tell he wasn't doing it because he was anxious about anything. There was like your your course. The horse is kicking There was like an excitement When I lived in California right after college Now everybody knows California has bad earthquakes here in Georgia There is a fault line sometimes we have a but you don't really feel them and I will tell you Knowing people who move to California as an adult people born in California. There's a huge difference for how they handle earthquakes people born there Sleep through them. Whereas I would freak out every time But the animals whenever an earthquake would come if there was a cat or they would they would tell you they could feel it coming But the earthquake was coming and I feel like that's what the animals are feeling now They're feeling the fact that we're about to move into a new a new timeline with a higher vibration And I think there's an excitement coming from them and what's so pure as I think as human beings going back to the manipulation We do carry a lot of like Unnecessary fear. Yeah, there's animals are able to surrender more to the vibration of divinity Yeah before shake it off. Yeah, they just shake it off I mean, I mean Ravi was out there celebrating chewing up the recycling again. Just like you did as a So so, you know, it was like he was excited about something was happening and I even told you so I was like I need to check this human rises like something is changing right now Yeah, we don't need to check that because I haven't checked that for a while please let us know what it's like everyone but It is great, isn't it? And I think that would be my message for Anyone that it resonates with is tomorrow's cancel cancel cancel cancel So just you know looking at what in your life. Do you want to cancel cancer? And if it's me, that's fine You know, but it is really really important What are you needing to and just because you need to cancel cancel something now? Doesn't mean that you won't want to go back to it in six months time I think that's a really important thing, isn't it? We're talking about right here right now What is serving you what isn't where do you as an individual need to be and the more we recognize that I really notice a difference in the more The more people are confident in that themselves the more they react to a love and heart center To other people that they're interacting with yeah, it's whatever I think you everybody needs to wake up in the morning and I've been doing this myself So because I've watched Taylor our friend Taylor moon do this and I love it is this for my highest good This is the highest good of the collective and And if somebody is if you're watching something on YouTube and they they're stating all these things happening And it's scaring you just remember that none of us really know what the hell is going on So it's just that person's opinion. So don't let it scare you It's just that person's opinion Yeah Fantastic. So talk of moving into the love to our operation We are just about to do a really lovely talk with Lucy Davis who is all about moving into the love vibration So you will see that up on both our channels later and I'm I'm in wonder today I really am in wonder nature's coming out and I'm loving the expiration. I'm loving the new awareness that I'm feeling about myself And I'm loving the impact that my animals are giving me really good feedback on what's working for me and what is it So that's really helpful. Oh Thanks, Bryce. It's always such fun We've I keep meaning to make myself a natural cup of coffee for this. I was really gorgeous organic coffee with much mushrooms in so We might actually have a proper coffee. I'll make a note the planer nation I Don't know where the time is going. I've said this before but it's absolutely flying but in a great way every day is just like Wonderful at the moment It's the best is yet to come the best is yet to come see you soon everyone. Thanks. Hope you enjoyed the coffee chat