 François Normand, welcome. You're a very distinguished Swiss diplomat. You've been ambassador in Guatemala, in France, in the United Kingdom. Therefore, what is your impression of the threat, if it exists, of the Trump presidency towards international order and the international multilateral institutions? Well, we feel it in Geneva, in the multilateral surroundings with so many attacks against the counsel of human rights. The United States withdrew from UNESCO with the same type of argument that they use against the counsel. We see that even WTO could be a target. And what do you think the consequences are? The consequences will be a weakening of the multilateralism. A loss of international cooperation, it can happen also because of the budgetary problem. If the organization have less resources, it will be detrimental to their mission. Do you see any way of changing this? I think all the countries have to unite and to put pressure and to find ways to compensate, if need be. You mean to compensate without changing America's rights? Without changing. Not compensate. If the Americans withdrew from such an organization, the organization will continue and it will need more resources. And the countries should provide these resources. Isn't there any possibility of exerting pressure within America itself, changing the climate of opinion with Congress or not? There is a possibility. It is limited for foreign powers. I think it is a domestic matter. But we must admit that the multilateralism itself is in crisis because are they really efficient? Do they deliver the programs that they present? And are they reforming? I think there the Americans have a point. The organization should be reforming. So the future really is in our own hands. We need to improve it. Francois Normand, thank you very much indeed. Thank you.