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Uploaded on May 10, 2008
Ken Schram gives me the opportunity to confront Roy about the damaging effects of the meditation. He barely even allows me to talk, and has a ready assessent of me before I even open my mouth. He has to be repeatedly told - let her talk. When I explain specifics of the hypnotic aspect of the meditation, Roy hollers - she's lying! she's lying. Maybe he needs to go back and listen to what his tapes really say. I was taken aback by his denial of what he actually says on his meditation tapes (before they had cd-roms). He underestimates the power of my very detailed memory of the content of his meditation exercise.