 Welcome to Toffy TV, it's the match preview, Black Bane Rovers Away, this used to be one of my favourite away grants, some good times at Black Bane, although there was one particular one, I remember beating them, I think it was 3-2 when Tim Kale scored in the last minute, it was brilliant, and then I remember one where Andy Johnson scored in the last minute, it was disallowed for no reason, and then there was just a picture in the paper of me celebrating it. After the score, which was devastated by, but pre-season game on Thursday, which hopefully should see the Blues face opportunities to see the Charleston in action in a blue shirt. Absolutely, and I think it's important that we do, me and you were talking earlier on the way in that there's not really any reason why we shouldn't see him, and I think for the fans that are travelling down there as well, there's been blues that have travelled to all the pre-season friendly side. So far without us actually having accumulated any new players, so I think we've just got our man, I think it's important that we see him out there wearing that blue shirt and get a little taste of what he's all about because we were saying also it's all very well and good getting excited about players, it's until they put on that shirt and you see them playing for your club that you do get that idea of ok, this is how it's going to work, this is exciting, and we need that because pre-season there's not been anything to really report on too much, we've been trying to figure out the ones whether they're going to be moved on or stay or they're going to develop, but we've not had anyone new to look at and get excited about and I think this is that opportunity and I'm excited to see him play, I hope that we do get to see him. I think we will, I think at least off the bench as I said he's been pre-season, I think he was on tour with Wafford before he came and signed for us and I think why not just put him straight into the action at the end of the day to pre-season game, we've got three pre-season games before the season starts, so why not get him straight in there because for the price tag he's going to be playing first game of the season on that left hand side I imagine. So he's got to be straight in there and as you said then, fans have gone to the game so far with little to be excited by, I think it's been noticeable that in other summers when we've had new managers and things like that, fans have been a little bit more excited going in and there's been a little bit more of a buzz, especially if there's new players. I haven't really felt that this summer, I feel like fans are a little bit like we'll wait and see on this fella, you know, we'll wait and see and because there hasn't been any new players then there's not even that to attract you to them but I think we'd recheck the possibility for Charleston playing, I think fans will suddenly go well you know I might go to this game now or I'm a little bit more excited about this game now. So hopefully that will put a few more blues on the gate. I hope so and it should do really because you know I'm dead excited about the fact we've signed him and as you said blues have been pretty good still going to the games. It's as you've just said there having brands and silver coming you'd expect that to bring sort of excitement and promise which I think it has but I think we've been so beaten down from the last few seasons last season particularly is the worst I remember as a blue like it really is and we're talking even like late 90s. It was just with the expectation that came with last season and it was just so morbid and depressing that I think although we're like yes we've got brands and I see that as an excellent appointment and silver as well but without the players and without seeing things coming into fruition, fruition, whatever the word is that it's fruition then it's like it's why do I try and do this. It's lonely me you can't say that. Why do I try and use posh words to make myself sound intelligent and then I can't get them out but now I think we haven't seen the players come in and everything like that so yeah this is a chance to see okay well this is a player that the board brands and silver have identified they want him and we're starting to see things take shape. We've seen that in some of the performances with the formations and the way we're playing and the way we're pressing but now we're going to start seeing them put their stamp on. What you'd hoped for certainly what I'm hoping for now is that against Blackburn again you have almost like the first choice 11 as possible and you see the levels go up a little bit so where it is against Porto. We were the intensity was there for the first half and then it died off the second half. I'm hoping that intensity last you know an hour now. You've had you know divide I imagine the training Tuesday Tuesday Wednesday they'll probably train Thursday morning like training and then that will be that intensity will go into the game and everyone steps up a little bit because at the end of the day there are two things you're really looking for in preseason. Results are better by you know what I mean the sharpness comes with fitness and I'm just hoping that the team that is the outline effectively the team that's going to play against Wolves is is there and is really working hard. We're Charleston you had that too and suddenly you've got that little bit of an X factor excitement for the fans and then the team can start taking shape because that's all that's all really. Of course we want we want to win the game and we want to go there and beat them but let's hope that for 60 minutes 75 minutes we see a team really playing the way Marcus Silver wants to play next season. Definitely and I think the other thing that you touched on there as well is it's like. We want to see that starting 11 as of now yes we're still hoping that there'll be some business we need to be certainly in defense but I want to see who is Marco Silvers starting 11 with what we've got now and let's see them play together. Let's get them give them a chance to kind of gel because how many more we got we've got Blackburn then we've got. That's three more games so now's the time to really go OK this is our team and there's obviously going to be a couple that you're hoping are going to come in as I said but get them jelling because that's something that we've struggled with for so long now. The chopping and the changing and that's been the case in in like Austria and Portugal as well we saw two games in two days pretty well too entirely separate sides and that's very much been the way he's very much been trying to go. I want to watch everyone decide who's good enough who isn't and I think now we've kind of filtered down a little bit so we know roughly the bulk of the first team. I'm hoping as well I'm hoping that Ghana and Sigarton get a half as well and I prefer the first half I prefer them to come in and be in that first team. OK maybe play only half maybe that place is second half maybe a message place is second half or Davies place is second half and I want to see them come in and you know just obviously that'll be their first game. But if you go if you want the first game of the season I think you can identify you can already identify well I could I could name an 11 now and if the fit and no one else comes in I think that'll be the 11 so I'd like to see that 11 you know play. I mean we don't know about Theo Walcott I'm hoping he's going to be involved because I worry not worry too much but I think that it's OK saying oh he's not playing or whatever but you know if you're not involved in preseason and you're trying to hit that first game of the season and you've only got you know he hasn't he hasn't kicked the ball in a game yet so you want him to be involved as well because otherwise then you're going well if you're not fit enough you're not going to be fit enough for that first game of the season and he's a big threat for us so I'm hoping again you know if we can see the likes of Theo on one side but Charleston on the other side, Sigurdson and Garnet even if it's just you know even if it's just those three players Walcott, Sigurdson, Garnet, even if Charleston even if they just played for the first half then that to me would be would be a good benefit and then you're bringing some of the players on for the second half The fringe players? Well not fringe players but the players you might have to play instead of them you know if they don't make it you know Walcott doesn't make it, there's Sancho step up or there's Charleston play on that side and Maralys play on the other side I know that's weird If Sigurdson isn't ready to go just dial playing that position so they can play the second half but I think that's just I think it's important that especially with having a new manager and a new idea of playing that Sigurdson and Garnet and Walcott and Charleston all come in and go Charleston less or so because he knows other manager wants to play but he's got to gel with those new players as well they all get in and go right this is what it's all about straight in there and you know we go from there because I think that structure is the most important thing now Totally and I think look how our side starts to take shape then as well the players you've mentioned there Walcott, Garnet and Sigurdson coming back in those are three of the starting eleven straight away and yeah they need to start playing with this team again under the new manager it's important that they get as many minutes of competitive or semi competitive football if you like under their belt as possible in these sort of friendlies And yeah gain their much fitness again Walcott was a cause missing towards the end of last season as well so it's ultra important for him to get in and I want to see him play because he's going to be so key for us next season in terms of this new system and the pace and everything we're going to play I think that for fans is what we want to see because although there's been certain players that have kind of stepped up and have impressed on occasions you're not really thinking okay that's who I want to see coming out the tunnel to face wolves in a couple of weeks time you know So for me I agree there I want to see as close to a starting eleven as possible and yeah if we can get some minutes under Guilfee, Garnet and Walcott's belts then better and yeah I'd love to see with Charleston as well I think as well what's important as well it's not all about let's say racing back making sure you're playing for the wolves game it's a long season but pre-season is such an important thing For all I know Theo Walcott might be doing everything in training but he's just not playing he might be doing all the running he might be doing any contact work he might have a dodgy ankle I don't know but you want those players even if they're not available for that game against wolves You need them in the pre-season because it's so important it's that okay it's not going to be spectacular as well as last season you know because you know this time last season the season was kicking off you know you see Bailey this week starting the European league the season was kicking off so from then on it was just non stop on that pre-season and no one got a chance to get the right amount of training in and practice Don't have that luxury I'd say this season I'd still love to be in Europe but I'm not having it it's we have that time now so but I'd still want all these players involved it's great that once the season started we'll have more time to train and more time to go through things but it's just so important for getting that base level of fitness that can carry you through the season You know some people some players come let's say they come back heavy or whatever then if they don't have a pre-season never shake that off because they never have that intensity again they'll do yes they'll have different kinds of training but I imagine with with Michael Silver a lot of it will be going through the things he wants to know the set piece and the pieces the pressing you know all the things out to make this to make this side there's not necessarily going to be that time to get that that level of base fitness so I'm just hoping that those players can get that in before the season starts even if you don't make it that first game of season let's just say other not 100% for it as long as I've got that base level of fitness I think that's the most important thing Yeah definitely I think we can all agree on the impact that it has when a player doesn't have a proper pre-season you've just said then and it's absolutely right it can carry through for the whole competitive season and that is certainly not something that we want to see from our you know Sigurdsson, Garner and Walkart here are stars in our team you know and I really hope that they're getting their fitness up and getting in on this because yeah they've been playing of course they've been playing in the world cup those two as well but it's different this is a whole new system this is a whole new management you know there's going to be a few new faces in there as well so yeah get that fitness up and as you say they don't quite make it for walls which I really hope they do then at least we know that they've got that fitness level and that we're not going to be playing catch up for weeks and months to come because we can't really afford that I think at least with Sigurdsson and Garner I think they've just played in the world cup they've had a couple of weeks break now on the straight back into Sigurdsson had a large break before that with that injury so I think he'll be okay I think that world cup will almost serve as a pre-season for Sigurdsson because he really had two weeks off I was surprised he'd come back so early and Garner is a very fit and competitive lad so I think they'll be okay I think they won't be too many problems there so hopefully it's just woke up I'm slightly concerned especially with his injuries as well yeah yeah especially you know he's not getting any younger and you just worry that you don't want some to be to be persistent as I say he hasn't been involved yet but Black Bay and themselves they kick off a week Saturday in the championship I think they just come up having me from the league one it's cool big season for them they've played Hibs so far they won they drew with Paul Vale they got beat by Liverpool and they beat Lincoln last time out I was looking through their squad there's very few names Danny Graham remember him played for Watford went to Swansea scored loads of goals for them then got a big move to Sunderland like everyone who goes to Sunderland he's there and Charlie Mulgrew who used to play for Celtic was a very good player used to have a very bizarre Twitter account very bizarre I can't say I've never experienced that yeah just very bizarre yeah so there's really only names I knew so but as I said it's at their gaff I believe the lads from the red remember telling me last week when they played there was hardly any Black Bay fans that they were friendly and you would expect Liverpool there was loads of Liverpool fans so I don't know whether they were just the way they are some clubs I think I like that some clubs don't get I mean let's be honest when we have a preseason it's only ever like 20,000 isn't it yeah but still no it over we had a proper football club this is the thing though you think they've just got promotion they're hosting a team that was in a Champions League final you think they would want to be turning up but as you say some fans and some grounds just like that and I hate it I hate seeing anything like that for me Middlesbrough was always one you just see like random I mean it must be alright to turn up you could turn up like 10 minutes into a game and sit wherever the hell you want kind of thing but I think when you're watching that as a fan and even if you're there and you've brought loads of away fans you want some of the bounce back off don't you they're those strange club Black Bay because obviously they become one of these sort of money clubs at the beginning of the Premier League and obviously won the Premier League and then everything was like built in a hurry so the three to three of the four stands are all like they were modern when the Premier League started and same as if they look three separate stands one big stand one one well the two at the end of what the parking should have looked like and then you've got this little small crappy thing that's been there for years like you can watch the match from a hill on behind so it they're very much of the time they were like boom and bust but if you're going to be boom and bust you know you might as well win a Premier League by doing it so it's like a big mentality for like three or four years and yet it's just in this little town it's a weird juxtaposition but listen they'll be a good test for us at the right time because they've got as I say they've only got a week or so before their first game so they'll be coming to their levels now their high levels that that means it will be a good game for us and I remember Thomas Graves and actually getting sent off in a pre-season game it's black bean years ago so that's all not from like that happens I think he got suspended as well for the Premier League because he got sent off. This is a weird thing because who was it that was playing the other day? It was it for us? Was it Schneidler? And the E got a yellow didn't he and they were saying oh I'm not sure and I thought well would that carry for you? In the old days though if you got sent off in the old days if you did a nasty little tackle in the pre-season game the referee would go over to the bench and just say take him off now what I'm sending him off so that would be the little thing because obviously it's a pre-season game. So you don't want him to take it through? So that's what he used to do you know he's going to be excited to take him off but no I think I think listen if anyone is going it could be an exciting little night you know if we see the Charleston play and we get to you know hopefully get to see Sigarton back in the Nevertonshire, Ghana, hopefully Walcott. And as you say they're going to be treating this you would think pretty competitively their season just around the corner so should be a good game of football? As of we though as of we we've got to start we've got to start stepping it up and I think you know whether you think it's important or not it would be nice to win the game of football. It would be nice to see some goals in the likes of Cieng Towson okay he scored a battle road against anything but that doesn't really matter I think I could have scored a few in that game. This is it. I think that you know it would be nice to see those levels go up where he scored and goals were creating clear cut chances. I mean don't get me wrong we've been very unlucky with the post numerous times but it would be nice to go when we've won this game and then we've won that game and then you're going into the season then with a couple of wins and thinking let's be optimistic about this. Well this is where we need to be sharper isn't it in that final third because we've seen we've hit the upright how many times hit the crossbar with our chances going just wide with our goals disallowed. And you think you know say Sandro bagged a couple in the last couple of games. Cents got one the assies got one Sandro's got one. You start to feel a lot better the confidence goes up and I think now that is important that we do go. Yeah it's only friendly but let's score some goals and let's win. Let's get that morale and you know imagine tomorrow if we end up winning like three nil or something. Recharlison gets an assist Sandro scores and so does Towson. That feel good factor does start to come through then people are looking at you know Rennes and then Valencia hopefully more players coming in. So yeah now is the now is kind of starting to get into that real crunch time and we've got to see some goals. Over the next few days obviously you know everything comes together the team comes together you know who you're selling who you're buying starts. You know it's all going to come together next two weeks but that's it. That's what we've got and that's it. The window shuts on the Thursday night and you're ready to go. Okay once you've got them in you can give them a few weeks to bed in if they come in late. But you know this you can't be going into the season going well who wonder if we can get him or get him. This has made your mind up time. You know he said last weekend was the real make your mind up time. I want to see out goings as well. I think we will do but I think listen let's go into this game. Let's get three points to score a couple of goals. Let's hope that you know confidence is there. Let's see us playing some football the right way in that you will have gone. That was good that I enjoyed that. And I want to win. We want to win this. We want to play as well as we possibly can. A little bit like we did last time. It's Porter where we were all like this is actually quite good. And yet by the end of the game there's loads of people going oh I'm a bit worried. Oh we're going to get relegated. Silver out. Did you have it Leslie? Thoughts about this game back being rovers away. Pre-season friendly. Just make sure you can get it on the stream mate. Anyone who says you've got any problems with the passwords one of us will get it out on Twitter. It won't be me. It won't not be me. I'm not touching codes. The Ems are always open. Right thanks to Sarah. We'll see you later.