 You know, we've got Matt Zander and we're going to talk about cloud systems, I think, so you know I love the Beatles music and I'm looking forward to the concerts, but yeah I'm a technology guy there and you know clouds big so first of all Matt welcome. Thanks. Thanks very much I actually have to fly home tonight. Oh missing Paul McCartney. I was trying to figure out if I could hawk my My wristband out in the parking lot Absolutely, so we were just talking to Jeff Kenyon, you know two guests ago about about virtual systems and now we have cloud systems as I said It's sometimes tough to kind of squint through all the different marketing terminologies So can you maybe share for us as to how? Cloud systems fits with the you know matrix and virtual and app systems and all these other pieces sure sure So the overall umbrella is something called converge systems, right? And within that you've got vert system app system and cloud system So cloud system can be thought of the single platform on which to build ploy and manage Cloud environments right public private and hybrid cloud environment So it's a it's kind of unique in the industry in that it has a single approach to all various flavors of cloud And it's very open and flexible to meet various customer needs So but at its core we're still talking about a converged infrastructure where I've got compute network and storage, correct? That's correct It's based on converge infrastructure as a foundation element and then we layer on top and integrate with that cloud service Automation software okay, so this is the IMC Software or is this something else? No, it's something different Okay, so it's comprised of some capabilities that folks are used to in the marketplace today like server automation Okay, so this is this is really getting to the heart of what it takes to move from just Infrastructure automation with converged infrastructure all the way up through the application stack for cloud enablement Okay, so when we talked to CIOs, you know, you know management is definitely, you know Maybe security might be the top of mind issue, but management is really kind of one of the chinks in the armor of clouds So can you give us a little bit more color as to how HP? What are you doing in-house? What are you doing through partnerships and alliances to really help, you know manage in a new way? Yep So management is critical right one of the things most CIOs are concerned about is they understand the benefits to start Transitioning the cloud, but they're definitely afraid of sort of leaving in islands would exist today in their environment Right, so you have to be able to bridge from a management perspective into their traditional IT environment and be able to seamlessly collect that In a hybrid environment, which is comprised of traditional IT Public domain resources as needed and as appropriate as well as new private cloud Right, so so so this is a true hybrid cloud environment. So I've got some stuff in my my internal database I'm sorry data center, which called private cloud my external typically service provider I would think that we're doing there or other public cloud provider. That's correct Does it have to be HP product in all of these environments? No, it doesn't that's one of the benefits that HP is bringing to market is we try to build things on an open basis, right? So we're not we're not locking customers into a certain flavor of hypervisor We're not locking customers into a certain flavor of us and we can even work with heterogeneous infrastructure, okay, so so you know the standards for cloud are just starting to you know come out and How are you doing interoperability then between the various environments? So you're right today that the idea of bursting out to a public cloud for example is very pre-standard, right? So what we're what we're doing is working with service providers to create special connectors Okay, that allow us to say if you have a cloud system in your private cloud You can then burst out to a service provider much like we demonstrated yesterday with Savas Okay, and we'll build that out over time as standards evolve to take over that connecter So Savas has a great story Are there any other the service providers that you're talking about here that you can share? You know what options are there out there in the ego so I won't share any specific names today But the rest assured that with our new cloud agile provider program right that will help formulate the basis of a priority list And then you can you can fill in the blanks with some of their names in the industry that will obviously be working with okay So so excellent service providers, you know very critical important and we talked about management Maybe we can touch on security. It's been a real hot-button issue with especially some of the recent outages You know is there we're security fit into this security from our standpoint has to be pervasive throughout a cloud solution Right, and we really encourage folks to ask some challenging questions There's a lot of a lot of PowerPoint floating around explaining how everything's done in the cloud now and everything's taking care of from various vendor approaches Ask the hard questions like what do I do with my physical and virtual environments from a security perspective right many times applications can Be moved to a virtualized environment, but they reside or they rely on a physical instance of a database Right you have to consider security holistically physical virtual Application infrastructure, and we're working all that capability in the cloud system Okay, so so we all know if you've been in the industry, you know in IT for years technologies come and go There's the latest fat, you know cloud and virtualization big big data is a big one But at the end of the day it's all about the people yeah, so the role of the IT administrators traditional silos And you know HP has you know a large workforce and a huge community So I've liked what I've seen on the expert one program that HP has and I'm curious how you know HP really sees the role of the you know traditional IT administrators Fitting into the role of where cloud plays and what you're doing to help you know educate and train that workforce So it's a really good. It's a really good point. I actually just left a session by FICO one of our customers here That's explaining to folks how they've successfully deployed a cloud system And they went into detail about how they've actually created a new role Okay, and their IT organization called the solution administrator, right? So it's it's a combination now of the the world's blurring between storage Networking and server to really enable cloud and HP is working to develop Education programs and certification programs alike to help sort of fuel that new workforce if you will to take advantage of cloud Excellent good So let me see from a cloud standpoint, you know, where do you feel we are from a maturity standpoint? You know, are we past the peak of hype? You know, you know, how much interest are you seeing from your customers versus how much of this is a push from the vendors? Sure I think there's a huge amount of hype right and a lot of confusion that goes along with the hype of the marketplace today I think once you can explain to customers that they may already be on the path to cloud today without realizing it if they're Highly virtualized environment right that's sort of step one to get there And then they could see it as an incremental step right and they realize the benefits I think we're far away from being mature But there's definitely capabilities available today for you to go do a private cloud start small grow tall You know take a workload that you know will be optimal for a cloud environment Prove success within your organization with that and then grow from there great Are there any you know work workloads or specific applications that you'd recommend starting with so certainly test and dev It's itself extremely well to cloud right it's something that most people have in their environments that they're wrestling with Oftentimes tends to be a very rushed service request from a line of business to go do that So that's a natural place to start where you can carve something off start a cloud and it shows it Reminds me a lot of where we were with server virtualization You know many years ago start and test dev move up the stack to higher level environments And you know where Amazon started out is companies that I didn't have to build that infrastructure So I guess the question I have is you know Amazon anybody can take a credit card and kind of just go buy it So you know how is HP making sure it you know transitioning to a financial model that that's more flexible to be able to deploy cloud See what we want to do is armor customers with the flexibility to have their cake you needed to right? So if you build a if you build a cloud system Right you have the on-premise private cloud footprint to take advantage of those workloads that either through compliance or regulatory Concerns you are obligated to keep on premise right you cannot send it off But then when you need to burst for additional capacity and for workloads that maybe it aren't as sensitive and constrained You have that flexibility to go Essentially do the credit card model and burst through through a public domain right so that's the that's the way we see the world We don't see it as an if but a win for hybrid cloud and it's it's all about transitioning our customers to get there No, no, I definitely agree with you there. It's definitely there's many options I mean if you look at the interviews we've done here at the show You know HP has a very broad portfolio and it's not about one or two solutions But there's many environments and many avenues to be able to get that To into your environment, so I guess you know possibly could you share with us? You've been in some of the sessions you see in the keynote, you know, what's the coolest technology you've seen here Well, you know, it's probably gonna sound very selfish. Yeah, I was pretty excited to see the bursting. Okay capability I mean bursting's a it's an area for HP that for the marketplace in general It's been a lot of people talking and not a lot of people doing. Yeah, that was a particular So I mean I'm a networking guy So when I look at cloud bursting, you know, there's a limited amount of bandwidth that I have between here and there And it's tough to get data from here to there. So so why is this different from, you know, some of the reasons why the you know You know XSP is back in the 90s failed. So what's different? Why can I really get from here to there and share information? Well, you know There's there's a lot of technologies that can limit the effects of bandwidth, right? And you have to ask yourself how is Amazon today so successful by being able to move Capabilities off to their their workloads right and do infrastructure as a service essentially when you burst from a private cloud You're you're creating a similar linkage to what Amazon has to their customer base today Not everybody has a 10 gig pipe out the back, right? And it works quite well with if the application makes sense for it, right? But expect way in optimization is pretty critical for some of that cloud bursting technology Absolutely, absolutely. It's a little bit further up the stack You know and it's something that we're trying to work into the ecosystem as we move forward Yeah, so is there any partners you were working with that you can share on the way in optimization side or not? Not specific to bursting today, but you know HP has relationships with all of the major players there through our alliance This is you know, we saw a demo. So I mean this is not vaporware. This is not, you know proof of concept This is something shipping today. It's scheduled to ship later this year in production But it's something that we can go in and do from a proof-of-concept standpoint and we've proven it out with with Savas Great. So Matt appreciate you sharing with us on cloud systems. Glad we can fit in here exciting technologies here Cloud bursting which is really one of those you know use cases We've been talking about for cloud for the last couple of years, but real deployments of you know How technology can really transform IT. So pretty exciting. Thank you for joining us here in the cube. Thanks very much