 Her trevor we called it go barren. He was like because I bury and Yeah, it wasn't immediately apparent, but it's a thing. Um, but she is she's too young to be around other dogs. Also hustrever just doesn't sound right. Hustrever Uh, but so she's she's at like puppy camp and and can't be around adult dogs until she gets a certain amount of shots. Um, but Otis was sort of just like like My friend's house is it's a nice house, you know, it's lots of room and lots of windows and you know And he was just like walking around like smells like a puppy. There is no Oh, yeah, you know, oh my god Not freaking out, but just like like what is this place? It's dog like yet. There is no dog It was so cute Well I know Roger I'm to do some daily technician. Roger. Don't you want a dog? Didn't that sound I'll be your two children. I have two kids I know Well, one's a baby actually once once they get older than you know, if you have kids that are One's a baby. One's a kid. One's a baby. Listen the ulcers don't end until they finish college That's probably looking like a true dad. Yeah, right At least you know what you've gotten into All right, let's let's do some tech news. We got I'm excited. We got some good stuff today. Let's do it. Yeah All right, are you ready? Mr. Chang? Yes Here we go in three two Chris Rockow has supported independent tech news directly for five years be like chris become a dts member at patreon.com dtns This is the daily tech news for tuesday march 5th 2019 in los angeles. I'm tom erin and from studio feline I'm sarah lane and i'm the show's producer roger chain. We have got cooking news. We've got welding news we've got kitchenware news and glass news and and video doorbell news I'm very excited about today's show for those people are like all you ever talk about is google amazon and facebook Well, this is the show for you today Let's start with a few tech things you should know The national security agency shut down a system of logs of u.s. Domestic calls and text This is according to luke murray the house us house minority leaders national security advisor This halts a program that's involved disputes about privacy and the rule of law since the september 11th 2001 attacks edward snowden disclosed the program's existence back in 2013 and contributed to awareness at how both governments and private companies harvest and exploit personal data Well spotify has been around in india for about a week now And they say they've added more than one million users across both. They're paid in free tiers Now for perspective india has a population of 1.3 billion With more than 400 million smartphone users. So there's still room to grow Reuters reports that 10 cent backed gana g a a n a Leads the indian market with about 80 million monthly users Well, we promised you kitchenware and this is the first Corel brands which markets kitchenware under the corning wear and pyrex brands announced plans to merge with Instant brands instant brands the makers of instant pots Instant brands CEO robert wang said that it will help expand product development he'll stay on the as the as The company merges as chief innovation officer and instant brands will continue to operate out of its offices in Ottawa, Canada I didn't realize uh that instant pot. I didn't I did not either. That's why it's so nice and polite. That's why it works so well. All right Let's talk a little more about video doorbells august August by the way owned by a lockmaker in i think switzerland Not owned by google amazon facebook or apple August introduced the august view doorbell. It's a video doorbell for 230 bucks available in the united states starting march 28th The view has a shape that could fit more easily on your door frame than the previous model And it's also battery powered now before they only sold a hardwired Model which some people want to prefer because then they don't have to change the batteries out But if you don't have hard wiring, this means you've got another option View it in a lot more places It also comes with a remote doorbell chime a rechargeable battery and a micro usb cable Well tom as a person who has recently purchased a home This would be something that you might look into as a renter I kind of read these stories and i'm like in and i'll move soon You know, I don't want to go through the trouble. Does this sound good to you? Well, and I'd throw it back at you after I answer I will not won't refuse to answer but The fact that this is a battery powered one makes it a little more of a possibility for you Is it true? Right because you can just unscrew it and take it with you when you move versus the hardwired one Which I guess you can still unscrew and take it with you But you know, it just makes it that much more that much easier to pop on and off It is definitely attractive to me, although 230 bucks is not the cheapest Yeah, I just bought a ring Which I even because amazon owns them. I was like, do I really want a ring? I put it off put it off put it off I lean my wife really wanted one So I finally got it because it was on sale for 160 bucks Uh, it was and and it had they threw in uh a free um a free. What was it they threw in for free? I want to say it was a free battery, but it wasn't a free battery What did they they threw in something for free? I don't remember what the usb cable Oh, I'm an usb cable anyway They they threw in something for free and so I was like, okay, that's a pretty good deal 230 bucks though Is not outlandish and honestly if I had known that they were updating this view video doorbell Last week I might held off uh because I would like to diversify outside of these ecosystems I try to keep some of my stuff in google some in apple some in amazon It'd be nice to be in august where which isn't related to any of those Well, and I I totally understand what you mean by that at the same time We do see stories and we'll talk about a few of them later on the show of of smaller companies that shut down Because they aren't part of that big ecosystem. So if you are I don't know If you're going to throw $200 plus into something There is a part of me that's like, well, you know, if it's owned by amazon like it's probably not going anywhere So there's a little bit of that going on. Actually the nice thing about august is it's owned by a lock maker Like a lock maker that's been around for a long time So it's probably not going anywhere either because it has a nice traditional, you know, well established company behind it Um, it was the door chime extension that I got Which is probably not something I would have bothered paying for but it's kind of nice You plug it into the wall it connects by wi-fi and then the it's not just ringing on your phone You can also hear it in the room if you don't have your phone nearby. No, it's kind of nice Anyway, yeah, uh, I I think that's I think the reason you're seeing a lot of buzz around this right now is because it's from from august and not from one of the Companies that everyone accuses of spying Um, it's which is an important thing for a lot of people these days asa abloy is the parent company It's a swedish. Sorry not swiss swedish lock manufacturer Formed in 1994 when asa a b was separated from swedish security firm securitas a b So there you go Yeah, and if this is something that you've bought or you're planning to buy and you've got a good reason Let us know All right, john bane general manager at glass manufacturer corning told wired that his company is working on a Bendable version of gorilla glass that could be available Then in the next two years or even sooner Corning is targeting a three point of three two five millimeter bend radii for its one One millimeter track. I knew I was gonna get this wrong millimeter thick glass while increasing damage resistance So pretty cool stuff. Corning makes bendable willow glass, but its manufacturing process requires a dip and salt solution Which would corrode in glass transistors needed for displays that samsung and wallways bendable phones use plastic screens Which are less likely to be scratch resistant So coincidentally, apple invested 200 million dollars in corning back in 2017 in order to support research and development Yeah, so the upshot here is that we could get the Durability of gorilla glass in a bendable screen right now. It's one or the other you could get Durable gorilla glass or you can get the bendable screen sam's like you said samsung and wallways bendable screens are plastic Which is why there's a lot of worry about tempered glass covers and and things like that And corning thinks that it can balance the durability with that thin glass that you would need for bendable Which would be amazing and and like you mentioned apple Really doesn't want to do plastic screens. They've made that very clear over the years So that's why you won't see an apple bendable phone is my guess until There's a bendable glass version of this Well, and it looks to be the case that apple has invested in exactly that Or something that might be exactly that some somewhere down the line I mean it does it does still leave the question open. Do you want a bendable screen, right? But even if it's not about a foldable phone, right? A lot of people are like, oh a foldable ipad a foldable iphone Maybe and apple has some patents out there that indicate they've looked into that sort of thing and how they would do it And maybe this is another time when apple comes in and says, oh, yeah, they're all doing foldable phones But let's show you how you should do it a foldable phone You know, that's the old apple magic of the past. Maybe they can pull that off again Or it may just be different form factors It may be devices that that aren't necessarily necessarily foldable but have wraparound screens or something like that Yeah, yeah, or or something that I don't know if you put in your back pocket and it sort of folds into your person In whatever way depending on, you know, how how tight your jeans might be not even gonna get into that But that's the sort of thing where it's like, okay Maybe not foldable but something that actually just works better day to day And might not be and might not be you know, this this this um I don't know You know something that that that that changes the landscape, but actually just works better. Go ahead Raj I was just thinking like what if they upgraded the the watch to a band Where you can have this play across the band. That's that's like a little little fussy What are they those called the snap things that you love? The the the bracelet the the ones you get from yeah, the snap bracelets. Yeah. Oh, who loves those Okay On in a similar vein scientists from harry at watt university in edinburgh have developed a system that uses picosecond pulses of infrared light in tracks along materials in order to weld glass to metal The team has welded quartz or ocilicate and sapphire glasses to metals like aluminum titanium and stainless steel The welds held at temperatures from negative 50 up to 90 degrees celsius The one of those fahrenheit people in the us the 90s close to boiling and negative 50 is 50 below freezing Glass and metal have different thermal properties which makes them very difficult to weld So most of the time when you see glass and metal put together in your devices, it's adhesive That adhesive can slip over time It often outgases a lot of the yellowing of screens is thought to have been Adhesive that is outgassing over time In any case adhesives usually reduce product lifetimes. So this would make for more durable devices The process will have direct applications according to the scientists in aerospace defense optical technology and healthcare So its biggest use may not be in your phone or your consumer device But in more industrial applications, but it's still a big advance Well, and I think that so many If you're talking about a device for example, and yeah that kind of yellowing or something's weird You know, how do these adhesives work? Most of us don't really understand this. So the technology under the hood as it were is is actually really cool. And yeah, there are bright days ahead considering that they we The the way that the way the metal and glass might work together going forward Are is actually just a lot stronger. Yeah And when you talk about tough books, you know durable phones hardened for for industrial use out in the field or military use This this makes those a lot Tougher than they are now right now a lot of that that sort of durability factor in devices Has to do with casing Putting some kind of shock-absorbent casing. I I actually use an x doria case. That's a mill spec Case the defense case on my phone because it's got that shock absorption, right? That that's your best defense right now If however, you can make it so the device itself just holds together more that that a shock is not going to Loosen the adhesive but this thing is welded tight Then then it's not like you get rid of those shock-absorbing cases But they they have to do less and so it just toughens up the entire device I'm curious Of people out there who know welding and I know you're out there What do you think of this? You know what what are the parts that we're not thinking of right now? That are going to be huge benefits for for devices that can be made with this process because From everything I've read we got the story from fizz.org But but I looked around and saw a few other places picking it up A lot of people think this is a significant advance that's going to have some some pretty great repercussions If if they can advance it so the temperature Threshold is broader You could use it in aviation right you would need to necessarily Create when you have a window on a ball, you know on the on the fuselage of a plane I mean you got to essentially bolt it there to keep it together But if you can weld it and it maintains the same strength you could reduce a significant amount of weight Yeah, you know crucial in aviation because every pound you add means burnt fuel That that doesn't you know give you money in return That's a great thought because those bolts add up over the Of a big jumbo. I mean this is the thing like when before welding with big ships big ocean liners They riveted them together. The problem is to get very heavy And so when they finally when they discover or you know when they not discover But when they invented welding they started welding ships It allowed them to create a ship that was significantly lighter because you didn't have all these bolts and rivets I mean the same thing with aviation when they made jets they riveted them together and then they said Okay, well, we just weld this Reduce all the rivets you you know you lose maybe 15 percent of the weight Makes the plane lighter use less fuel makes it go faster and the rest So, I mean if they can if they can this is just the beginning But if they can brought out the thermal properties and to use different, you know thicker more precious pressure resistant glass be awesome Well in wearables news Pardon me IDC is now including earbuds and headphones that connect to smart assistants in its wearables number apple still leads with airpods and some beats headphone models Added to apple watches for a total of 46.2 million in 2018 Xiaomi came in second at 45 percent with the me band three is the best-selling wrist worn fitness tracker the entire world Fitbits fell 10 percent to third Huawei jumped 147 percent to fourth and samsung took fifth place IDC also noted that disappearance of headphone jacks and the rise of in-ear biometrics and smart assistants as the reason It sees earworn wearables as the next product battlegrounds. It may just be the fact that they called it earworn wearables That you want to include this, but but yeah, I I think it it is legitimate to say Having a voice assistant in your Jabra or your airpods or whatever you're wearing is Is is a wearable now that's not just headphones. It's not just an extension of your phone It's it's a separate thing And some of these can even have some some onboard processing for voice recognition That can do a few things on their own So if your if your apple watch can be considered a wearable Even if it doesn't have a built-in lte connection of its own certainly your earbuds could And if anybody doesn't realize we started a a program called live with it where sarah Is taking a device and spending three months just living with it To give us a more long-term view of products and the first product or job right earbuds So it this this is right. You're right on trend with those sarah I would thank you. I and I would definitely call them wearables. I mean, yes, they're earbuds But it's this is something that is Um, it is amazon assistant enabled. I can use it as my phone Device ish, right? You know if if I get a phone call while i'm out and about or play music or Podcasts or you know, there are so many different facets of it that it's like. Yeah, it is a wearable It definitely is a wearable It there is a form factor that may or may not work for you And that's actually something that I I have some thoughts about As as do many other people because it's a very personal thing I think even more so than something that you would wear on your wrist But but yeah, it is a wearable and it should be included as such in these numbers. Yeah, idc's total is 172 million smart wearables shipped in 2018 Half the number of personal computers that shipped Uh, you glass half full glass half empty that number and say well, you know personal computers have been stagnating So that's not it's not a great number if it's only half of that, but this is a growing market Uh versus a stagnating market. So You know, this this is a this is a significant market that is Only showing that it's getting larger and larger and and idc thinks that the ears are the next You know, the wrist is kind of well played out, right? It's not that we won't see that continue to grow But we kind of know what can be done on the wrist right now The ears seem to be where the next frontier for this for for companies to make new stuff is Yeah, I mean it it's it's the way that a speaker can now be a smart speaker. Okay. Well, what can it do? It can play things but it can it's interactive if there is a certain amount of interactivity I think that that's a wearable and that's very valid Universities and academics have been pushing for open access to published research Well, pretty much ever since the internet began if not before Uh, the internet makes it easier to search and access peer reviewed research There's things like scihub and archive with an x that make it easier to find Data than ever before you don't have to plow through the stacks You don't have to dig through the library cards anymore The dewy decimals the card catalogs all of that stuff, but It threatens the bottom line of journals journals for years have been the the caretakers Of what gets published and how you access it and they've made a lot of money doing that So they're pushing back as open access threatens their bottom line or at least they see it as threatening their bottom line Well, the university of california system the whole system not just one campus Has made open access provisions for its research a requirement for renewing subscriptions to journals And their first negotiation which it was with the journal publisher. Elsevier. Elsevier agreed to terms if you see authors Paid publishing fees to get published in the journals. They said fine We'll allow anything that gets published from uc to be open access If you pay extra As a result the university of california system and its 10 campuses have decided not to renew Subscriptions with Elsevier journals. It's about 11 million dollars that the journal publisher is going to lose out on It makes billions of dollars. So it's not a huge percentage, but it's not nothing They followed the national library consortiums in germany, hungary and sweden However, who have all made the same decision and if each one of those is taken a even just a couple million That's going to start to eat away UC researchers will rely on pre prints of journal articles as well as sci hub Where you can sometimes find these these articles anyway to obtain copies of the research that they would otherwise get from Elsevier and I think the most significant thing is The uc system doing this now will encourage other systems to say well, wait a minute Maybe we got some leverage now if the if all 10 campuses in california are doing this Maybe we can jump on board and and and change the way this works Yeah, the the uc system is is for anybody not familiar with california. I mean, it's it's it's a It's a huge system So this is significant in that sense if I if I were to be kind of that layman saying but tom What does that mean for research? Am I going to get more? great research papers that that uh, you know get get dropped into my lapper Am I going to get less like is this good or bad? Uh, it's good The people who lose out are the the journal publishers now the journal publishers will argue that it's going to make it more difficult to publish research, but honestly Most people agree and I know some people don't but most people agree that you don't really need the journals anymore You just need a good peer review system And there are starting to be good models of open publishing that include valuable peer review So if the journals aren't going to play this is the kind of thing that signals They may get the rug pulled out of them the way the music industry and the video industry and print Have in other kinds of print have had the rug pulled out of them because of the internet model And and so there are some journals out there that are adapting to this But you really do need to adapt to it and Elsevier doesn't seem to be doing that at this point Well, have I got a great story for everybody MIT's mini cheetah robot Yes, you heard me right a mini cheetah robot has a very cool skill among other things It can achieve a 360 degree backflip from a standing position Researchers claim that the mini cheetah is virtually indestructible and can recover with little damage Even if a backflip doesn't land Even if you don't stick the landing the cheetah is a 20 pound quadruped That can bend and swing its legs wide Enable it enabling it to walk either right side up or upside down The robot can also traverse uneven terrain about twice as fast as an average person's walking speed So pretty cool robot the cheetah also has a modular design So each leg is powered by three motors made of off-the-shell parts So if a motor is damaged it can be easily swapped out for a new one The researchers will present the mini cheetah's design at the international conference on robotics and automation That happens in may they hope to build 10 of these and then loan them out to other labs next up Figuring out a landing controller so you could toss it and have it land on its feet still Yeah Part of this is just wow they can do that right? That that is an amazing advance in robotics, but I feel like there's some pretty practical uses for this You know when you say oh you can throw it and it lands on its feet that sounds like you're torturing the thing Because you wouldn't do that to your cat or your dog, but if this is You're like in a the first thing that always comes to my mind with these robots these days is rescue situations And you're like this is a burning building. We need to see if anybody's in there throw the dog or the cheetah Into the window and and you know it will land on its feet and be able to maneuver through uneven terrain And and and give you a view maybe even do some other manipulations to help fight the fire or or whatever right like that's that's incredibly useful Yeah, that's a great use case And I know we were kicking this around before the show we were talking about this story because I was sort of like This is so great. But who cares? I mean do we need a black flippian robot? But yes when you talk about something like that that is a perfect use case for something like this where yeah, it Things there might be debris or you know, the the stairs aren't in a you know In in shape for a human or a dog or an animal or any living creature to be able to Safely be able to traverse this so in that sense besides the kind of wow factor the implications are really cool I think sometimes the movies Make us overestimate what robots can do Robots in real life are pretty fragile. They usually usually have to be on a flat surface Those robots that they have in airports to lead you around can't go up and down stairs very well So this kind of thing is important for robots being able to move into different situations even outside of of emergency I mean outside of search and rescue you can do maintenance for example throw one down a manhole Run down the length of a sewer You don't need to have three guys run a camera on the end of a of a line and you know run it down You can just have it go through or if you're like doing research Hey, I'm looking at this, you know rare bird species I don't want to freak it out with a six foot guy with a camera Rummaging through the brush. I can put one of these put a high You know an hd camera on the back of it and let it you know very quietly and surreptitiously get You know any kind of information or data that way Oh, those are great Folks if you are someone who knows the practical use for this kind of maneuverability for robots Share your expertise with us feedback at daily tech news show dot com Also, don't forget you can keep up to date real fast if you're short on time It's good to have a backup subscription to daily tech headlines at daily tech headlines dot com And thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit because you help us uncover stories like robots that can Do backflips submit stories and vote on others at daily tech news show dot reddit dot com If you want to hang out on facebook, we've got good news. We're there to facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show Yeah, that uh article about the the uh induction heating from from yesterday came out of the subreddit derrick silva sent that away long so All right, we also we also love the mail the emails send them along and then we'll check them out in the mail bag We absolutely do and we often say hey if this story resonated with you Will you let us know and ben did exactly that ben said I got really excited when I heard you cover excel's new Ability to take a photo and make it a spreadsheet. I handle printouts of spreadsheets daily in my job as a low voltage Electrison We use them to lay out connection pathways at the data center I work at filled with panel and device and port information The ability to take a photo of that sheet and then have it become an editable document is great for me as Then I can make changes as needed to update the master that my foreman has Also, I work with some pretty old school guys that just want the paper So I often take a photo of the document for my own use But that photo can be difficult to navigate sometimes This would make it easier to highlight a row and easily identify all the connections that I need in one run Just thought I'd give you another use case other than photos of spreadsheets in word documents. This is great I love that ben's like I got really excited about excel and he has a really good reason Totally We've got an electrician in the audience who's like me. I'm excited about this. Let me tell you why And it and it makes perfect sense. So thank you so much ben We also got an email from bex forten a patreon supporter. Thank you boss It says I bike to work daily and most places on the weekends I would be happy to see delivery bots in the bike lanes for one simple reason The more the bike lanes get used the more drivers will respect them and more cities will be incentivized to build them Reasonable speeds in a bike lane range from seven to 15 miles an hour So the robot should be able to get where they're going safely and on time I'll be honest when we talked about the robots in the bike lane I expected to get a bunch of bicyclists telling me why that was a horrible idea So I was very pleased to see bex going actually. I think it would be a good idea. Thank you Yeah, yeah, I I I think that's a really good point bex that If you liken it to more bikes in the bike lane Bicyclists would be like, yeah, because you know, this is this isn't this is a necessary thing and drivers should respect it And and this is something that perhaps is not respected enough now. So throw some robots in there They all get along well, you know going going roughly the same speed Yeah, this is a good thing share the road with a robot All right, uh, thanks to everybody who supports us at daily tech news show dot com slash support There are so many ways to support this show. Uh, you can buy some merch in our store We have some some stocking caps aka tuks aka beanies. Whatever you call they're warm They go on your head. 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All right, uh, we're our title show bot dot chat realm dot net If you're in the IRC Chuckable cheetah. Wow, that sounds like an 80s toy. Uh, mommy You're worn wearables, you know, that's just Bend it like gorilla Bend it like apple also a good one. Uh clean bend it Lots of good cheetah ones in here. It's only a cheetah if they get caught The business of scholarship, that's a good one too Journal of the relevant journals Welled together right now over medals Excellent Beatles reference. Thank you mojam Uh, I don't know. I didn't even I didn't even that that is that's so clever. I didn't get it That's good. What do you uh, what do you think? Well together Um, I like chuckable cheetah chuckable cheetah. Okay. I was you know, if you give me cheetah versus anything I was thinking like I want to learn wearables is a responsible title, but it is chuckable cheetah. There we go chuckable It is it is like an 80s toy chuckable cheetah What you gonna do with the cheetah? Chuck it. Hey, don't chuck my cheetah. It's a chuckable Get the chuckable cheetah now You put my pita butter in my chocolate you chuck my cheetah Don't ask mickey. He hates everything I don't I don't watch enough tv anymore, but I've noticed a distinct lack of candy ads Or am I just I don't watch enough commercials to know either. I see a lot of Reese's ads Yeah Well, that's true. I I I do see a lot of Reese's ads I don't know why But I feel like I'd like just like see it online. It's not even really commercials, but I guess they're all It's all the same thing at this point. It's uh, it's will our net and he's like not sorry Reese's Like not sorry for eating it. Yeah, I haven't seen that one. Yeah Well, there was there was a uh, there was um, what was the campaign for a while? There was there was no wrong way to eat a Reese's peanut butter. Right, right I just agree there are lots of wrong ways to do it. Well, I suppose that's true Like putting a sweet pickle on top of it. Don't do that. That's wrong. Yeah, it's wrong For so many reasons Yeah, and I I've seen a lot of m&m's commercials too With the with the little m&m figure. Oh, that's true. Yeah Well, they had the the christmas campaign some years back that was so popular That I think that it has it has it has thrived since then And and sometimes it was like really morbid because you were like, oh, but they're about to get eaten But they're like, oh, they're like cute little men But that's what they did with the California raisins. Remember, they were like a doo-wop group that you ate That's right. Yeah Yeah Yeah, I heard it through the grapevine It is nice to see the chocolate bunnies In the store. I I generally will buy one chocolate bunny every year. Take it home and eat it before Eileen gets home It's my eastern tradition Okay, so here speaking of wrong way to eat these sorts of things How how do you dismember this bunny? Oh, I go if it were me like it has to be eaten Like from the ears down ears first always ears. Yeah ears first. Yeah, I've actually experimented I tried not ears first just no, that's just no point. No. No, it's logistically and spiritually wrong To to go yeah Or or in from the side. Yeah I guess feet maybe but there's not a whole lot of other options that aren't going to make the thing just crumble apart. So I mean, yeah, I I don't know why that makes so much sense to me too But it's Reese's bunny. Then there's no wrong way to eat it apparently You just drill a hole in the metal and go nuts. I got really excited commercials had a An Easter bunny and a Reese's peanut butter cup and I was like, are they going to do a peanut butter filled bunny? Oh You buy that right away. Why don't they no, it's it was an ad for the easter has supported independent tech news directly for five years Be like chris be like chris. Do it on dot com slash dpns Be made with this process and let it all to check out the details. This is the reminder our email at daily tech news show dot com slash Are we on acid? May or may not work. I think roger may have turned off his headphones. Oh Sorry, I'm here. I'm here. We could hear your editing. Oh, I'm sorry It was it was great. I was like, it's me wait that I'm not talking. We would stop you weren't reacting to our reactions So it's like maybe you turned off his headphones. No, I turned you guys down just to make sure Yeah, that's what it was. Uh, that's funny I don't have to check the audio. I'm sorry. Oh, no, you should check the audio I was just we were we were laughing because we're like, oh, uh, it's it's flashback It is deja vu. Did we just do this show? Did you dream that I you know, you know, it's funny. I the the no, I'm thinking of Reese's The the the regular size Reese's peanut butter cups. I haven't had one of those in a long time I just I just haven't but the many ones you get them in, you know, halloween candy and I don't know There's sometimes it, you know, it's well wrapped ones, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you'll have it candy dish at the doctor's office Or whatever you see those around. I mean, I am popping those any chance. I guess they're delightful My problem is the peanut butter is not that good. Well, it isn't I have been ruined. It's the worst peanut butter by Trader Joe's Trader Joe's Makes the most divine peanut butter cups And you the problem is you can only buy them in like quart sizes Which is way more peanut butter than I need to have Candy sitting in your life So I never buy them, but they're so good The closest I can find to them in like a reasonable amount is the justins Justins are good. I was gonna say yeah, they're real good and actually butterfinger makes peanut butter cups now They're pretty close. They're pretty good The only thing is if you don't like butterfinger, they have pieces of butterfinger in the peanut butter Which I don't mind, but it's like, yeah, it's not if you just want smooth peanut butter Who doesn't like a butterfinger? I don't know. I'm just saying get out of my house. That's the answer. I'm not a fan There we go. That's why roger doesn't do a show from sarah. Yeah Our dinner parties canceled You're out of here out of here Really, you don't like you don't like butterfinger I don't hate them It's just like if if I had a choice from a like a bowl of halloween candy Butterfingers would be it's not the one you go to it would be at the bottom along with uh, babe ruth I could even see somebody who likes butterfinger not wanting it in the peanut butter cup, right? Like that could be a thing too Remember speaking of commercials remember when Uh, baby ruth and butterfinger were were marketed together and there was a song about the two of them No, baby ruth butterfinger Tear in to um, which do you choose? You don't remember that? Oh, yeah Oh, this was this was like a like a very popular I don't know. We're probably going back to the 80s again on this one because that's where all of my memories come from but Yeah, it was it was like the the whole idea was like Like which one are you gonna choose? They're both so great There we go They're fresh guaranteed They're very not fresh Fresh and tasty just for you just for you I mean what the the depths, you know, it's like if all the things I've forgotten, you know, like that one just sticks I people kept buying stale baby ruths is they had to do I don't know. That's a good question. How's it fresh? They're not really similar They're like a very different candy bar from each other. Maybe it was nabisco's least Like the worst selling brands that nabisco had they're like, well, let's just put them both in a commercial and juice them Totally. Yeah, right. Isn't that like an almond joy and uh, let's see I hate both of those Those those actually you don't like coconuts because they're basically I don't like that style of coconut like that weird dry candy Good they put on they also put it on cakes and like it was fresh shaved coconut. I would love it but Desiccated coconuts gross to me. In fact now that I'm thinking about it I think that there was a song about mounds and almond joy as well. I can't remember it exactly right now That's mounds don't oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes you feel like Yeah, sometimes you feel like a nut Uh, I love almond joy mounds It's sort of like like why wouldn't she just want the almond? That's funny because growing up. I like mounds I did not want almond joy. I was like, why do you want to stick a nut in my otherwise perfectly good chocolate bar? Oh, that's funny. Yeah Now I'm more of an almond fan. I don't mind almond joy at all. I've always been a crackle fan. I just like the crispy crunch I actually prefer crackle over nestly crunch You don't find crackle as often though. That's You only get it at hollywood bite size fun-sized candy in those places That and mr. Goodbar In the small in the mini size Um, didn't yellow cool jay sing a song about mr. Goodbar. I don't think he was all about the candy another mr Reference mr. Goodbar in one of his songs babies I wonder Well, here he is Is is that like a wink wink like reference to something that I don't understand? I don't know. It's chicken and the egg for me. Mr. Goodbar is slang for like, you know A hustling dude kind of you know, will ready and willing And and I don't know if the candy was like a Name like named after that or whether it was the candy was named first and then they started using it I mean if the candy was not named first, I'm impressed If they were like, you know what we're gonna get a hustler candy bar We're gonna call them a mr. Goodbar. Yeah, listen. They have candy like they have a 100 grand I mean, I mean like think of all the candies that are like oddly named 100,000 dollar grand bar Why is it 100 grand because it feels like 100,000 right? Not 100. Yeah, it's 100,000. Yeah 100 grand Oh, I see. Yeah, you you don't say 100,000 dollar and grand because it's like atm machine Three musketeers. There's another one. Why are three guys on a candy bar? Well, because that's named after the very No, I understand but like what is the relation to the candy like to a candy bar? It's like milky way I can understand because when you crack it open it kind of looks like the milky way or feel like milky chocolate or whatever, but Like I mean all names are just meant to evoke a feeling. So I guess three musketeers is like, oh, you'll be energetic Because they used to be sold as as as energy like in the you know in the power bars You need to pick up your energy. You eat a candy bar like a snickers My mom just texted me that there used to be a candy bar called love nest Whoa Like who wants to eat that candy bar? That sounds rather uncomfortable Doesn't it though? Would anyone care for a love nest? Well, then there was that old candy key party, uh, which I I don't know which one Son can live in room style Oh, I see you've brought out the love nest Can I interest doing a love nest? No, thank you. No, thank you. I don't want that This pit is kind of my limit Oh Well, it's it's a it's a sunken floor. It's a pit It's it's a pit And you only have it because your house is raised on a raised foundation So, uh, mr. Goodbar, uh, according to urban dictionary, which, you know, is always right. Um Uh is a pulp culture phrase, uh, that references the 1977 film of the same name starring Diane Keaton Used to describe a all too common cultural phenomenon and stereotype Were upon entering a local watering hole one spots a noticeably middle aging female Who without asking her one can already glean? Some details about her and I will just stop there. You can go to okay That that settles it then because the the movie was referencing the chocolate bar, which was introduced in 1925 Oh Very I mean gosh 1925 Okay, and the reason and this is one of the One of the reasons mr. Goodbar has disappeared is because first you had that movie come out and suddenly now that name was associated with something else uh, and then her she had Uh, created her she bars with almonds, but didn't want the brand name associated with the chocolate bar that contained nuts So it introduced why? I don't know why okay It introduced a fictitious company to create mr. Goodbar And so now you have how deep does this go you have her she bars with almonds, but you also still have mr. Goodbar huh I don't know that You have her she bar with peanuts I've only ever had the mini ones. I don't think I ever had a full size mr. Goodbar. No, it's just I've definitely had the the mini ones. Yeah, because I could I can see the the um But you're right. I always buy nestly crunch and I actually think I like crackled better too roger It's just you never see them. So yeah, I remember when they went upscale and they came out with score Oh score I didn't think score had rice in it, but it I thought no it had like toffee in it, but those I actually liked it It was like You know what else else I loved a rollo Oh, rollo's Everything. Oh, wait, that's a tootsie wrote to to everything. I never could be just one either No, no You eat the entire thing it looked like furniture like little stoppers that you put on the bottom of your chair don't work though You have to eat it in a very specific way or you're just gonna run the whole thing But the great thing is You could take one or two pieces and you could wrap up the rest So you couldn't you didn't have you weren't forced to eat it all at one time Yeah, there was there was quite a bit of packaging in the rollo Well Folks, I hope we haven't made you gain 17 pounds in chocolate eating But we will be back tomorrow. I won't but they will so please join us then and audio folks stick around a bag of rollo's