 things Dave. So John some some news real quick here I see Solid Fire did a raise another 25 million bringing the total up to 37 million and interestingly a few angels that they had involved in Frank Slutman who's the former CEO of Data Domain and his VP of Worldwide Sales David Schneider and then Greg Papadopoulos who's the CTO at Sun all put dough in and then NEA and Valhalla. I'm really disappointed by those guys not asking me if I'm kicking some cash on that deal I mean solid state is on fire solid fire you know pun intended solid fire great company obviously the calendar. Clearly an up-round you were saying off camera right? Yeah we had a briefing with them there's an up-round although it's no new outside investors institutionally it's NEA and Charles Curran over at Valhalla two great firms really hot in the storage area up around and valuation obviously the demand for solid state is putting these guys in a great position. The service provider business on the web-based companies solid fires are selling directly to that environment. And that's a key point I mean there's a lot of action right now going on in the solid state space obviously we've been tracking Fusion IO and the IPO for a long time and but what's different about solid fire is they're exclusively targeting the cloud service provider and the cloud service provider has different requirements and the solid fire strategy is to bring to that cloud service provider the ability to pin quality of service by application that means they can start charging for it that's different. I'm a big believer in the cloud service provider business model and I was a little bit skeptical at first but as I start to look at it from my view is when you hear about these types of announcements from HP it ties directly into the solid fire value proposition which is you're going to see a new breed of provider who could put it all together. You're seeing a couple trends obviously softwares of service we all know about platform as a service has been a hot we started cloud foundry and those guys doing some stuff. Infrastructure is a service essentially converged networking when you add like the HP story of converged networking it simplifies the programmer's life you add open source on top of that you're going to see some really creative entrepreneurs couple together some really high commercial grade applications that are going to be cloud specific what the use cases are will be determined by the entrepreneurs in my opinion and the marketplace so it's still open book in my mind so we'll see I mean I you know but I'm bullish well I think what this announcement says is it's it's it's basically solidified saying look we're going to put all of our 37 million into that cloud service space so so so for those of you thinking about getting into the space you know you might want to rethink it now of course guys like EMC with project lightning are going to get into that space but some of the smaller guys you know maybe maybe that's a message to them to rethink it again the big solid fire is a perfect position date I mean here you know like you and I were talking about off camera their perfect position on the racetrack is either way they can go it alone go public and dominate the market and build an ecosystem around them and their partnerships or they can get bought out at a very very high number so I don't think that they're selling me my take on the company is it's not built for a flip it's built to build a viable business the founder is from rack space he knows that business cold but what's going to be interesting is the ecosystem that develops around the cloud service I think it's going to be some consolidation and you're going to see a lot of people become service providers within that space so it's going to be some interesting consolidation but either way it's a growing market yeah well Dave Wright has came from rack space that's his that's his deal smart guy Colorado based company one that we're following along with others pure storage Nimbus is another one that we're tracking I mentioned fusion IO so it's it's the hot space really is