 Good evening everyone before we start the meeting. I would ask Madam City-Clarke to read to us the quote for the week Thank You mayor What is Christmas? It is tenderness for the past courage for the present and hope for the future Thank You. It's Richards Call the 8th regular meeting of the Common Council order. Please call the roll Born, Berg, Serta, Davis, Groff, Hannah, Kittleson, Clowness, Manny, Meyer, Montemayor, Radke, Ryan, Sushia, Vanderwheel, Amber Hasselt. Excuse. 15 present. Before we recite the Pledge of Allegiance and Pledge our allegiance to the beautiful country we live in I would like to say that I am going to ask Attorney McLean and Susan Richards to lead us It is my understanding that the city attorney nor the city clerk have ever led the council and recited the Pledge of Allegiance During a Common Council meeting. So as we finish this year off, I thought it was very appropriate to have these two Wonderful professional individuals lead us. Thank you I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all Thank You. Attorney McLean, Madam City Clerk, President Burke. Yes, Your Honor. I ask that we would dispense with the Reading of the minutes and approve them as entered on the record Motion second to approve the minutes. Is there any discussion? There being none, all those in favor say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Minutes are approved. Mayor's appointments. Attorney McLean. Thank You, Your Honor. Hereby Smith following appointment for your consideration, Dan Dawn to be considered for the board of contractors examiners to fill the unexpired term of Gerald Yachman, which expired April 30 2008 Dan Dawn will join the committee as an alternate. Craig Cider will move from alternate to full member signed by the mayor On the back of your sheet and your file is a brief resume of Mr. Dawn And I would ask for a motion to suspend because you should have been approved the last time there was a misunderstanding So someone would make There's a motion. Is there a second to suspend any objection? There being none. Is there a motion to approve the appointment? Motion second to approve any discussion All those in favor say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Appointments are confirmed. All the person mark Hannah to be considered for appointment to the group health insurance committee as an additional Alderperson at large with a term expiring for 1707 signed by the mayor. Once again, I'd ask for suspension. This is a very critical appointment that's been made now because of our union negotiations Motion second to suspend. Is there any objection? There being none. Is there a motion to approve the appointment? Motion second to approve any discussion on the appointment There being none. All those in favor say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Appointments confirmed. Thank you, Mr. Hannah. And Alderperson Renee Susha and Vicky Meyer to be considered for appointment to the group health insurance committee to fill the unexpired terms of Alderperson's Eldenburg and Mark Hannah whose terms expire for 1307 These appointments are necessary to have the necessary representation from the salary and grievances committee and the risk management committee as Called for by the resolution establishing the committee signed by the mayor and these two laid over. I'd ask for motion to confirm The second second any discussion all those in favor say aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you very much. Thank you attorney McLean Public forum and see clerk. Yes. Thank you first on the list would be Carl table and mr. Table could you give me your home address, please gladly sue 24 to a north 25th here in the city of Sheboygan and you will have five minutes or thank you Honorable mayor city clerk city attorney members of the city council and our Sheboygan citizens I'd like to pay tribute to two individuals this evening who have left city employment But have left a wonderful mark of service It would be nice if those of you on the council and in the community would also give them a phone call or a note of thanks First of all Peter Fullerton Peter was deputy director of planning and development He in his quiet ways Did many many faithful tasks for our city? The second person I like to pay tribute to is Tom Holton The comment has made we can all be replaced. I don't feel Tom Holton can be replaced I remember when our city was hit by the flood Tom Holton was there day night weekends and Ladies and gentlemen, he supervised all the prisoners who helped the neighbors in Their basements full of water Please be sure that we all say a special tribute and thank you to Tom Holton This evening there are three groups Within our city that I'd like to say a special. Thank you as a citizen First of all to chief Kirk and the police department During the year. I was not able to join you at your rallies at city hall and give you a hundred percent support I'd like to tonight say to the police department. Thank you for keeping our city safe You don't know where you're gonna be called next and when your phone call when the next phone call comes But as one citizen Thank you very much. The second group. I'd like to pay tribute to is the meet public library meet public library board Who during the year have received much unfair criticism all members of the board did not Comment they held their heads high and they did their duties And also it'd be nice if you would say thank you to the meet public board and the last group this evening Is the public works union members? They are the people who do the many fine things that keep our city clean They are the people who have those very positive billboards and radio ads about the service that they give and so my hat is also Attribute to the public works City Union I have one request of an item of action that I'm going to leave a letter with my two alderman Vicki Meyer and Mark Hanna I believe that this is the people's house, and I peep believe people should be elected to this Body not appointed last year. Thanks to representative Akron Ben Akron and Joe Leipem The law was changed that we now could have Elections it's too bad that the state had to say you can have it shaboy good Okay, we can have elections, but I'm going to ask you as a counsel to adopt a resolution Asking the legislature and the governor to say and we'll add an addendum that shaboy can have an election When they want it I believe that if somebody Resigns or their lord called somebody home you should be have an election then and give people the chance to campaign Like many of you are going to either seek re-election or many are seeking election to your positions and last but not least I'd like to Give a little gift to this fine city of shaboy. Good. First of all this evening. I gave a Silas a little envelope with some By Centennial pins a years ago shaboy. Good was the first by Centennial community in Wisconsin and I came across some pins and some time at one of your meeting Silas will give the mayor and the City officials and your members of the council a by Centennial pin Some of you might know and some of you maybe don't know but over the years. I have collected political history memorabilia and the time has come to sell Donate and give and to share and so mayor Perez this evening I would like to present a little gift to the city of shaboy again that I would like Preserved in city hall. This is not to be sold not to be given away, but to preserve to city hall until the end of time It has from mayor Perez going back to a button from in the 40s when mayor Sonnenberg was elected and I felt This was the appropriate place to give so mayor Perez Would you please accept this on behalf of the city and you good city people will have find place worth of very appropriate I'd like to note mayor Perez that yours was the most colorful button. I like the red white and blue But it's it's part of America. I'm a shaboy in history To all of you a very Merry Christmas a happy new year and think thank you, Carl Dr. Table want to be half of the city of shaboy and I accept your wonderful gift and we are honored to accept it Thank you, sir. Okay Yes, next on the list would be rich Jordan Mr. Jordan, can you give me your home address, please? Thank you, and You will have five minutes sir. Thank you very much Thank You mayor Perez turning clean Clerk witches and the council members. I Was in mist of preparing my presentation for tonight when I came across the December 17th shaboy and press editorial entitled does the Edson fit the South Pier district and the press editorial Asked several related questions and takes a balanced Middle-of-the-road approach to the USS Edson project There are many open-ended questions that must be answered satisfactorily before any concrete activities Such as modifying the pier dredging the harbor or towing the destroyer will take place Last week mr. Source Winces museum director spent over an hour and a half feeling questions from you about the project Much of what he shared with you were approaches that can be taken to find answers The council is to be complimented for its thorough examination of so many different aspects of a complex project Many of the questions do not have answers that can be arrived at by debate There will have to be studies and consultations that address the subject such as parking dredging financing Operations and development Winston does not have an easy job ahead Their application with the department of the Navy will have to demonstrate a deep commitment to serving the ship in a multitude of aspects The Edson is the Navy ship until the Navy is satisfied that Winston can perform. There will be no approval The contingent lease before you tonight is a document well prepared to protect the city of Sheboygan from financial and legal liabilities The cooperation of the city and Winston will result in a successful and valuable project Thank You mr. Jordan Next on the list would be Terry Van Akron Terry can you give me your home address, please 1719 North 13th for a couple of weeks yet Thank you your honor Steve McLean its city attorney city clerk Susan Richards Holly Alderman glad to be here tonight and good to see you all happy holidays before I forget to you and everybody That's listening tonight It's great to be here again tonight See so many old friends, and I don't mean that as old in ages as I do is as friends that I've served with here It's good to see Carl table. Maybe it's old Alderman return night tonight but I'd like to speak on on the Naval ship in the Edson This evening but before we start it also was hard to sit back there when when it was asked should we suspend the rules I almost jumped up and said no because I used to do that on a regular basis So tonight I'm here to speak As state representative Terry Van Akron first saying that I too met with the Wisconsin Naval Ship Ship Association In Madison with some of the governor staff and people from the tourism department, and we were we were given the project shown the project As it currently is and we're impressed with the project just like you Are we also are encouraged by the project for tourism? But yet weren't aren't in a place where we can contribute state dollars to Bringing the ship here, but are willing to work with the people once the ship is here and provide grants and tourism dollars If the ship was brought to Sheboygan then we would prevent present money To help promote the ship as we do the ship in Manitowoc and other tourist Promotions throughout the state so we have met with the group the tourist secretary is in favor of This type of development and this type of tourism for Wisconsin now as a personal citizen I and pass all them and I would ask you to please consider Adopting this resolution tonight just because it is something that you're moving forward when I looked at the agreement There's many hoops and many hurdles that still have to be done But what you're doing is giving them the opportunity to go forward and prove to you that they can Work with the Navy and obtain the ship prove to you that they can raise the money To do this prove to you that they can get the Corps of Engineers now They get the Corps of Engineers to come and do the dredging They're better better person than I am for the many years that we tried to get dredging in this In the harbor and things done, but have them and what they're asking you to do is to approve To allow them to come back to you improve that they can do all the things that you've put in that agreement to have Happened and if all those things fall in place Then I think you're gonna have a worthwhile project So I commend you on on the way you put together your agreement with them And I hope that this passes tonight, and we can go forward with it Thank you for your time and again happy holidays to everybody here and everybody in Sheboygan. Thank you Terry And last would be Andrew bowman And Andrew can I have your home address, please? Of course It's 22 28 Lakeshore Drive, okay, and you will have five minutes or very good Hello, and good evening. I'm here to also speak about the ship that's been mentioned twice already I Would like to say overall I am not an opponent to this type of project or development But I would like to point out a few Reservations that I have as a citizen of this community that uses the waterfront quite regularly um For me as a long-term residence of Sheboygan the south pier Position that has been kind of the front-runner birthing spot of the Edson is Unacceptable, and I would just like to state three reasons For my view and others that I've spoken with one is the loss of Lakeview When Blue Harbor went up we lost a tremendous view from downtown Sheboygan and from other venue points of Sheboygan with these condos coming in They are going to look at two options currently right now the lake or at Blue Harbor With the ship there. It's going to be the ship or Blue Harbor Right now the gap between where you can view the lake is from the Coast Guard station to the corner of Blue Harbor And that is exactly where the Edson is proposed to sit Community use of the pier is something that is a tradition of Sheboygan From the fishing to people camping out to just people taking walks on the south pier in their nice summer evenings And what worries me most is not the loss of Access to fishermen or things like that, but the loss of that parking area when I was a kid We'd bike down to the pier and hang out in that gravel lot and meet people that would come from all over This region of the country from Illinois, Iowa even Pennsylvania and set up their RVs and spend their time Fishing at the pier. Well, that's gone and now there's this small circle where Fishermen can and and citizens can park and access the pier if the ship's there And if you use the group's numbers, which I have some questions about But I'll take their word for them. I've been in contact with them and they seem very professional and very Very on the ball with the whole issue is 80,000 people that comes to 220 people a day that means that in the winter months when Obviously not that that large number of people are going to be visiting the ship that will be close to a thousand people if not more During the weekdays and weekends during the summer. There is no way that we can accommodate That many people within that parking circle and I've spoken with one of the members today actually and he told me that they have no desire to try to Use that parking circle, but the one thing we can't change is human nature and if people are going to try to View the ship tour the ship. They're going to park as close as possible To it and I could see the fishermen now having to use the blue Harbor parking lot and Having to carry their gear where before which is much further west Then instead of being able to use the parking at the foot of the pier The third issue And this is a personal one for me is the loss of water sports in that area one goal of The design guidelines of the South Pier district and this is a quote from that goal is to promote Development encouraging water related uses that area Just directly south of the south pier is one of the best areas for surfing windsurfing in kiteboarding On this side of the lake There's days this year that we've had over 40 people surfers windsurfers in kiteboarding Using that and this is a direct goal of the South Pier development and you put that ship there change Both it's going to create a wind shadow will that eliminate all of those type of activities and it will change the surf break Which all the surfers use and shabuigan not just regionally, but nationally is really kind of Gaining a reputation for itself for surfing and these type of water sports We commonly have anywhere between 10 to 15 people from Chicago Madison, Milwaukee coming up here during the summer months to use our beach, especially that South Beach area Because I still think the Edson would be a good addition And I've sailed for us steel on the Great Lakes fleet and I've commercial fished up in Alaska during my summers to pay for my college I think it still has a valuable place here in shabuigan And I really think we need to explore putting it up in the river where development has already taken place not put it out Into our lake our best resource Where I suggest pointing it would be a cross from Rotary Park in front of the Blue Harbor for a couple of reasons One it won't block the view of the lake. We already are all it will block is the view of Blue Harbor Okay, the Blue Harbor is already taken care of the lake. We don't even worry about that It'll be close to the shops in the walkways Excuse me, Andrew, would you like an additional minute to finish up? I would appreciate that. Thank you You're welcome. It'll be close to the shops in the walkway And if you look at the original planning of the South Pier district area That is where they have proposed ship docking the cruise ship docking area I've like I said I've sailed on the Great Lakes and I'm familiar with the cruise ship industry on the Great Lakes And it is rather small, but it is it is a component of Great Lakes shipping and I want to just leave with this question Does the redevelopment committee and the planning committee for the South Pier district? Really have an understanding of how the water uses the waterways of the community and the beaches are used by Sheboygan citizens I've last time I spoke here was on the dog beach and they were going to put the dog beach in one of the Heaviest used areas of our beach and and many people were not aware of the traffic at the beach that they were going to put the dog beach at and I just think that is a crucial question we need to ask ourselves are we making our Decisions based on the best information available. Are we just making decisions based on What would be an easy fix? So thank you right on time. Thank you, Andrew Thank you everyone for addressing the council those that did Before I make my comments, I'd like to Make a presentation. This is one of the things that the mayor gets to do that really Gives me a really good warm feeling and I know it does for you Alderman also And it's one that deals with Recognizing an individual that has worked for the city of Sheboygan for 28 years and has chosen to retire and Move on and enjoy life in another in another way Sheboygan is full I say the city of Sheboygan is full of Wonderful hard-working employers that have committed a lot of their lifetime To us to public service and we truly appreciate that One such person is June Olson and I'd ask for her to step up Chief thank you very much for deputy chief This is presented to June for the faithful and dedicated service to the Sheboygan fire department from 1978 to 2006 June Olson. Thank you again for a wonderful work that you did for us and we wish you the best of luck in your future Thank you I would just like to add that June has had the opportunity over many years to train eight of Sheboygan's 15 fire chiefs So I was fortunate enough to be the last one and she's had a great contribution to our community and our fire department And her retirement is very well deserved So we're very thankful to have had her and we wish her the best for a long a happy and healthy retirement Thank You June. Thank you chief deputy chief as We close down the year. This will be our last common council regular common council meeting of the year I thought it would be appropriate to just Reflect a little bit and touch on some of the accomplishments that we've made as a council Sometimes it's difficult to think of all the wonderful things and the good things that we do for our community When we really truly are very busy and a lot of things just whiz by and we really don't have time to capture those images of our accomplishments and enjoy them If you look back and some of these Have been mentioned as our economic development We have accomplished an extraordinary job and economic development We have wonderful people that has helped have helped tremendously Paulette Andrews with her leadership in city development Tom Holton as public engine public works director and city engineer and the rest of the people that have contributed But if you look at Sheboygan Closely you will see that Sheboygan is changing and it's changing for the better It's progressing Which is what every city should do but it's doing so in a manner that we're able to maintain our good Old-fashioned hometown flavor And I think that's important to to remember you look at the blue Harbor that thing is a Monumental task and one has been recognized nationally Blue Harbor all the development has gone there. There's occurred there. We got the green warehouse building At time people thought that thing will never get developed. Well, it is The optenberg building thought at time people thought that thing's gonna be there for another 50 years. It's not It's coming down. We've got the Highland restaurant. We've got the capsule building being done We've got that courtyard that's been done. We've got the rice building We've got a tremendous amount of economic development It's going to add to our tax base that in turn will provide some of the badly needed tax relief for our citizens And I hope that this will will be looked at favorably at the state level when we deal with that the other thing that I want to mention briefly is the The amount of street repair and reconstruction that we accomplished this year also as you know 8th Street will finally finish That project has been on schedule for year after year after year after year and this council got it done It's complete the whole 8th Street has been done complete reconstruction street repairs we've put together a five-year plan to aggressively deal with our Decaying streets the potholes people don't like potholes and they don't like the streets to go bad You will see Union Avenue You'll see a lot of streets that have been done Taylor Taylor Drive for example was it was a huge huge Project that was accomplished and that speaks a lot for the city of Sheboygan in the Common Council that directs the city of Sheboygan You also note a little has been said but at the end of this year no more will tax Done you've responded to the people that will save the taxpayer a lot of money also stormwater tax Not a lot has been said about that and we will have to find alternative means of financing some of our projects But you dealt with that head-on and you responded and Acted in a way that people were expecting us to act that's going to save the taxpayer a lot of money the police station for years Councils and mayors have struggled and struggled to get a police station built And folks I used to say if I have to go nail the thing myself It's going to get built now. I can really say I think all 16 of you are going to go help me nail that thing because I think we're going to get it done zero percent increase in the levy Practically unheard of there's no other political entity that passed a budget with a zero percent increase in the levy You did you respond it again to the people? $1.8 million that would have been added to our levy wasn't you save a taxpayer a lot of money again There's a new sense of pride in Sheboygan. I don't know if you feel it I'm certain that you do but I feel it I go on to the community and people are starting to take notice of the good things that are happening and not necessarily just take notice but stop start talking about it and I get calls of new ideas Frequently that tells me that people are taking notice and want to be involved and want to contribute in their own way And making Sheboygan a better and much better place to live as I as before I speak on the 207 thoughts that I wanted to share with you I wanted to Read a statement that I read today that deals with the findings of the district attorney in the matter involving Alderman Graf and in some respects myself It was a matter that was hurtful to Alderman Graf myself Alderman Susha and All our city employees hurtful to my family and folks It was hurtful for the entire city of Sheboygan while I am not pleased with the well I am very pleased with the finding of no wrongdoing. I am not pleased with the way. I have been treated The way Alderman have been treated The way our employees have been treated Furthermore, I am not pleased with the needless waste of taxpayer money spent in this case Also, I am not pleased with the personal stabs By the district attorney taken at Alderman Susha and attorney McLean Attorney McLean is a wonderful Wonderful very competent city attorney and Alderman Susha people may not agree with you But you're a good Alderman And those things should never been said As you know this whole investigation was initiated pursuant to a complaint filed by Susan Hunley As I read the transcript today, it is clear to me that this unfortunate and unnecessary Investigation was based on speculation Gossip hearsay and the distortion and manipulation of information The district attorney may portray Susan Hunley as a responsible citizen in his findings But I'm gonna let the people at Sheboygan be the judge of that For two years my political enemies have tried to discredit my good work and me. I Have been personally and professionally attacked in my mind This is just another failed attempt This is another example of dirty politics. I Feel for Alderman Susha and Alderman Graf They deserve better I feel for Miss Yolanda Graf All she did was apply for a job and qualified for it. That is all she did Her integrity and dignity was put in question She too deserve better this whole matter has been a crying shame And I believe some people owe us an apology my thoughts for 07 council challenges Alderman our budget is not going to go away coming back next year. We're gonna have an increase in expenditures No revenues. We're gonna have to start getting creative a little tough But my position next year will be to start thinking in terms of how do we maintain or even improve? the quality and the level of services that we provide as citizens and They expect it and deserve it and pay for it and Somehow all of us together as a team will find a solution will find the answer and deliver And people will be pleased I Am glad that uh, mr. Representative Terri Van Ackerman was here because one of the things that I plan to do in 07 is to work extremely hard Actually bug you a lot Legislators because there are a lot of things out there That we need to deal with that. I believe our legislators can be of great help to us There's some statues out there that are outdated They may need a little bit of tweaking And there's some things out there that if our legislature expects us to be fiscally prudent They need to provide the tools for us with which to do it with We can't do a hundred dollar job with fifty dollars We need help We don't operate in a vacuum. What Cheboygan does what the city does what we do Is only a little bit of the picture? There's a whole array of things happening the dynamics is there never-ending. I Believe I will have support as we continue our economic development. We're working hard. Paulette Andrews is doing a tremendous job and Development continues As you know also may not know the redevelopment authority approved a six about a six million dollar project to go in South pier That's going to help our tax pay and in turn help our taxpayers 70 unit Hotel type of business as we'll create about 15 jobs and generate a lot of activity down there and bring people to Blue Harbor I will continue to work with the aggressive plan that we have put together for street repairs But one in particular I think that should be noted and that is the intersection of fifth and New York That's where the build county building administration is if you look you can imagine that intersection. It's like a cup So when it rains all the water Goes down that small drain And it can't handle it so it goes up and it goes into people's basements people's living room I was up there twice in the last two years last year and a half and folks if that was my house I'd be upset too So we have taken the initiative to improve that and it will be several million dollars, but it will be capitalized Some money borrowed and we're going to fix that fifth in New York intersection and we're going to clean it all the way up to the river repair that he increased the the size of the What the sewer sewer lines and it should Give the people a relief that they need and they should not have that same problem again Taylor Heights area Paulette Andrews and I will continue to work there to work with consultants so that we can Try to figure out what we're going to do with that area That's a very important area to the city of Sheboygan And it should not be left alone without some assistance from the city Paulette has some great ideas We will sit together during the next year and try to work hard to give that area an uplift So that people can return to that area and open up a business and start Patronize in those businesses those businesses are very important to us too. We cannot forget that the river development will continue what I envision is that want now that we've made that jump across the bridge which is Probably the most difficult thing to do But the jump was made it's been made Highland the Highland house restaurant The Kepsel building and I hope that we can continue to work the development all the way down the river up to Kiwanis Park It'll be a tremendous project, but it's doable, and I know that I will have your cooperation to do that it's aggressive, but it's doable and Three more things and then we'll get going with business And all these things that are happening and as the mayor goes out into the community and mingles with people and talks to people One of the things that I did about two weeks ago is I had the opportunity to go say hi to a group a Large group probably about 300 people of wonderful most Fun heaven ladies I've ever met in my life the Red Hat Society There were at Blue Harbor and I had a blast I've never seen so many people that laugh and smile at one time and have it a great time and I was so touched by that they even Made me an honorary member How's that? So To mr. William and you this way I thank them because they're the ones that organize that and did an incredible job a Couple of more things one is come new year I have had some small complaints But nonetheless complaints about smaller men having back problems and having problems with back aches because the chairs these chairs are old And they're not very comfortable so we looked around shopped around and the Finance committee did approve the purchase of 16 chairs for you. It's one of you and three for us Didn't cost a lot of money And I'm gonna say how much it cost because somebody may try to make an issue this and it was about $2,800. Okay for the work that you do The money very little money that you get paid and the amount of time you spend on those chairs because lately has been about two hours Per meeting they may be today because I'm talking too much You need to at least have a comfortable chair to sit in all the way you deserve that So I hope you will enjoy a new chair and then finally my less words I want to wish every one of you your family your friends and neighbors a happy Merry Christmas, and a happy new year. Thank you President Burke. Yes. Thank you. May Perez mayor. I thought these chairs were designed to be uncomfortable I would move to accept and file all the arrows Accept and adopt all the RCs and place all the general ordinance upon their passage Motion and second any discussion There being on please call the roll Burke Serta Davis graph Hannah Kittleson Clowness Manny Meyer Montemayor Racky Ryan Susha Vander wheel and Boran 15 eyes motion carries communications and petitions 1818 through 1819 to be referred Report of officers to 1820 18 through 1821 lies over 1822 to 1829 to be referred Resolutions introduced 1830 by Alderman Berg Authorized and entering it entering into a sister city partnership between the city of Sheboygan in the city of Subami Japan President Burke. Oh, yes. Thank you, and I would move that the resolution be placed upon its passage Motion second to put 1830 upon its passage any discussion There being on all those in favor say aye. Aye any opposed motion carries 1831 by Alderman Berg amending the composition of the group health insurance committee so as to add an additional all-in-person President Burke. Yes. Thank you, your honor. I would also move that this resolution be placed upon its passage Motion to second put 1831 upon its passage any discussion There being none, please call the roll Serta Davis graph Hannah Kittleson Clioness Manny Meyer Montemayor Ratke Ryan Susha Vander wheel Boran and Berg 15 eyes motion carries 1832 by Alderman Vander wheel authorizing the mayor to execute the joint powers agreement for seat for Sheboygan County and city of Sheboygan 9-1-1 emergency systems Alderman Vander wheel Thank you, honor. I'd make a motion to suspend the rules It is during the objection suspension there being on please proceed then I will ask to put the resolution upon this passage Motion the second put resolution on its passage under discussion under discussion the reason why I Asked us to spend the rules is because we need to submit this to the state by January 1st and this is something that we have done every year and The agreement is no different than other years and it's a Mutual agreement required by the state when we have 9-1-1 systems so that we can assist the county and they can assist us Thank you. Thank you. Alderman Vander wheel any other They're being on please call the roll Davis graph Hannah Kittleson Clowness Manny Myer Montemay or Radke Ryan Susha Vander wheel hi boran and Serta 15 eyes motion carries 1833 by Alderman graph Hanna Hanna I'm sorry Hanna Clowness Susha and boran authorizing the disbursement of the city of Sheboygan's 2006 community development block grant funds for the 24th entitlement period to various Recipients to promote economic development create jobs aid minority groups develop and upgrade housing and assist low and moderate-income people homie Alderman graph Thank you. I know I would move that the resolution be put upon its passage Motion the second put 1833 upon its passers any discussion All of them want to my own Thank You your honor it's always a very nice time when we're dispersing the money for the block grants, and I see there's a Therefore resolved about home income, but as soon as the legal documents are in order for the funds then that will be dispersed also Anything else Please call a roll graph Hanna Kittleson Clowness Manny Myer Montemay or Radke Ryan Susha Vander wheel Boran Berg Surtah and Davis 13 eyes to abstentions motion carries 1834 by Alvin grout Hanna Clowness Susha and boran authorizing a transfer of Appropriations in the oh six budget Alderman graph Thank you your honor. I would ask for suspension of the rules, please Motion second any objection there being none, please proceed and your honor I would move that this resolution be put upon its passage Motion second put resolution 1833 upon its passage under discussion under discussion your honor This is for two items one is a the CAD GIS upgrade and that is needed As soon as we can get it in the other the $500,000 is for for the mall the Walmart area for load improvements We'll pay about a half a million dollars and then Walmart will reimburse this city approximately $300,000 for this Thank you Any other discussion Please call the roll Hanna Kittleson Clowness Manny Myer Montemay or Radke Ryan Susha Vander wheel Boran Berg Surtah Davis and graph 15 eyes motion carries 1835 by Alderman Boran Berg Surtah Davis Hanna Kittleson Clowness Manny Ryan and Vander wheel Authorizing entering into an agreement between the city of Sheboygan and Wisconsin Naval Ship Association Incorporated for birthing of the USS Etzen and the Sheboygan Harbor Alderman Boran You're first in the night I'll call Alderman Thank You mayor I would move that we put upon Resolution for passage Motion a second to put 1835 upon his passage under discussion Alderman Boran We want to add in there Windsor agrees to pay to the city annually after the second full year of operation Honor before me one the amount of $5,000 is rent Set rent shall be adjusted annually In the city's tax levy for that year the second change would be on Would also be on page two Second sentence Where we wanted to simply add the word additional so it would be additional rent and among the equivalent And you can read the rest for the parking assessment The third change would be Five and we want to add after D A new part under for Submission of evidence acceptable to the city that Windsor has funds Or a fine in place sufficient to cover the From the Sheboygan River and Harbor Had no cost to the city County State or federal governments Thank You Is there a second motion? There's a second to that motion any other discussion Almost so should don't this on the not only amendment on the amendment then we will call the rule I'm sorry, Alderman Boran. Thank you, Mr. Chairman I talked to the Windsor representative before the meeting and pointed out these additions to the to the agreement and If I could use a ship acronym, he's on board with it No, no problem So I asked for your support. Thank you. Thank you, Alderman for it. No pun no pun intended, right? Please call the roll Kittleson Clowness Manny Myer Montemay or Radke Ryan Sushia Vanderweel Boran Berg Serta Davis graph and Hannah 15 eyes Motion carries only a man, but now we're gonna need a motion to approve as amended Motion the second to prove as amended under discussion Alderman Sushia Thank you, your mayor. Thank you your honor. Um, I think that since the committee of the whole meeting last week I think there were two new developments that might change the position of some of the elder people tonight The first announcement that came out over the weekend was that there is a potential for a 70 room hotel at the east end of the South pier if you put another hotel down there, you're going to have to guarantee 70 parking spots for that hotel Can you imagine if you're a long-term stay at this new hotel and you come back to your hotel day after day after long days of Work and you're told that you have to park half a mile away in a remote parking lot because there are people that are parking There to go visit the Edson We've talked a little bit about parking and that issue really hasn't been addressed The best answer I heard is that at the taxpayers expense the taxpayers will build a multi-million dollar parking structure And I just don't think that's how the citizens of Sheboygan want their tax dollars spent They don't need to put a parking structure at the end of south pier to accommodate a large boat the second major development is Communications that I'm sure all of us received From the Sheboygan Development Corp that's the group that is working diligently at making the spaceport Sheboygan a reality and It clearly states in their letter that we view this project meaning the Edson as a clear threat to the success of our great lakes Aerospace Science and Education Center at spaceport Sheboygan I Think that the alderman need to ask themselves what is going to benefit this community more Utilizing the armory for something very unique a spaceport something that isn't anywhere found in the Midwest or Should we put our eggs in the basket of the Edson? Something that you can just go up to Manitowoc and you can see another boat It might be a submarine but for those of us that aren't really into boating the point is is that? That isn't very unique putting a boat here isn't going to necessarily draw the people and the repeat Customers you know once you've seen it you've seen it you know think about even the local school children Once you've seen the Edson you've seen it do you need to go see it again, whereas I think the Science and Educational Center that the spaceport Sheboygan is going to provide It just has so much more potential and so much more educational value for not only the citizens but also for People who would be traveling here. I mean it could be a destination I think for bus loads of school children from all over the Midwest and there again You'll be filling the rooms at Blue Harbor Which which would be a great thing, but I think with these new developments the aldermen just have to ask themselves What do you want here more at the Edson or the spaceport because I'll tell you right now It doesn't look like we can have both and these folks for the spaceport. We've committed to them first They've raised almost 25% of the money that they need they've raised about four million dollars What are you telling these folks? Well, thanks for taking the armory off our hand But now we're not going to hold up our end of the deal And we're going to jeopardize the whole project by bringing a boat in I don't think that's right. Thank you Thank you old man, Susha all of them Davis Despite sporting I'm going to be Last week and I do not believe that Wednesday has the resources or the moment is to bring that Project to fruition are on the harbor and completed in a reasonable amount of time and Reasonable amount of time to me during my life time. I don't think it's going to be done in the next several years Thank you old man Davis Alderman Ryan Thank you, your honor This has been presented to us this evening as the spaceport or the ship. I Honestly believe that both of these projects can come to fruition together The Sheboygan Development Corporation, which is a fine group of people view this ship as competition for Fundraising dollars is basically the way I am interpreting This this evening. I believe that both the Windsor project and the spaceport development can both Work together and both be assets to this city Going back to the parking issue It's easily resolved without building a multi-million dollar parking structure as things progress Right now. We have several roadways down in the Blue Harbor district We have a couple of main roadways and several several sub roadways Which could be changed into one ways with diagonal parking without threatening The overall flow of traffic in the area. There's there's you know Parking is an easy issue to resolve without putting up a multi-million dollar parking structure. You're out of What we're asking is that we give the winds of people the opportunity to Bring this to fruition There are a lot of stumbling blocks that will be run across All they're asking is for the opportunity. They're not asking for any money from the city We have a resolution an amendment this evening that they Pay a five five thousand dollar a year rent to the city What are we providing them with we're providing them with a space in our harbor? We're not providing them with any city dollars so basically you know, this is and it's this is not only a a tourist attraction that Can bring more dollars into our community that can support the many Businesses that have invested heavily in the South Pier district Along with another resolution coming up another local Entity that is investing another one point two million dollars in a building on the South Pier district We have to support these people in any way we can The South Pier district is basically it's the etcin is another piece of the puzzle, you know right now We've got if we do you take a puzzle you've got the easiest way to build a puzzle as you always start on the outside edges Because those are the easy ones to find the square corners, you know without the the jagged pieces We have the outside of the puzzle finished We have the city Buying the property. We have the city investing in the infrastructure We have the blue harbor and we have the city building the convention center our corners are done For filling in the puzzle, but there's still a lot of work to be done in the etcin is a big part of this Thank you. Thank you all my Ryan Oldman Ratke you're next Thank you your honor I said this before I'll say it again. You said it earlier. We need to look to the future economic development is happening Space port should boy is not just a tourism attraction Space port should boy in is our future We see the University of Wisconsin expanding the science centers out there Lakeland College expanding their centers Why because we need the technology to keep the city moving? That's where this future is in Sheboygan is the technology sector I keep hearing from people industry industry. That's what we need. Well industry is Sheboygan knows it is gone It's not coming back It's it's no mystery folks little by little those jobs are going on a slow boat to China and I'm literally mean it literally But right now as we look to the future Space port Sheboygan is where it's at not just for the tourism dollars But for the type of people it's going to bring here and for the investment these various foundations are put into our educational structure here in the community to educate our citizens and those that choose to come here for their education and how to Further the technologies that took us off this earth into the moon in 1969 I'm afraid that a destroyer from Vietnam era is not going to do what space port Sheboygan can you talk about the businesses in The South Pier district. We see the condos going up We need to put people in those businesses in those condos and put residents in the city and let the city grow a Ship isn't going to do it, but space port will space port has got the educational opportunities for every one of us in this community The technologies gained just simply by going to the moon back in the 60s are things we take for granted to this day And we need to move forward with the space port project and make sure that they can go forward and the etson is not not part of that Scenario, I'm going to support the space port project that they have told these men personally and whatever I can do here at City Hall to help them as far as the etson is concerned I'm not going to change my vote this evening. I'm going to vote against the lease. Thank you Bill Marietti Alderman hand on your next. Oh, thank you, mayor Got lots of feedback from from people on both sides of the issue And I think you both made some very good points. I I too am a big believer in the spaceport. I'm on the governor's aerospace commission Supporting it with my time effort and obviously I'll support it with my money the Edson represents to me tonight just an opportunity for them to explore. I think it's a very much of a long shot I Don't think I want to stand in their way of letting them Look at resources and see what they can do and and I don't I don't see the projects by any means as mutual exclusive I see a lot of complimentary factors to it. We can deal with the logistics of the parking I think that will be an issue, but it's something we need to address And and something instructing one of the alderman saying what sort of person would be attracted to the ship and perhaps Attracted to the spaceport My stepfather was a was a pilot in the Navy and a graduate of Annapolis in the 1950s he was a test pilot and was very involved and early on in the in the the development of jet engine aircraft for the Navy He would have been the type of person that would enjoy to both and there's lots of people that would come and enjoy both And I think right now we're just giving people the opportunity to see they may very well come back to us and say the Resources aren't there come back to us and say the Corps of Engineers can't support redevelop in the peer district So that's really where I stand and and very much behind The spaceport, but don't see it in competition with the ship. Thank you all man. Hannah Alderman many your next sir Thank you, your honor the issues. I see it is an issue of finance and the question is Can both entities as they attempt to raise money be successful? So for me, we haven't had that conversation. I think we need to have that conversation They might be tapping distinctly different groups of people for funding, but there might be significant overlap Because that issue issue has not been addressed and cannot be addressed here adequately if tonight I move to refer this committee of the whole inviting both parties to be present to have that conversation Motion is second to refer back to committee of the whole On the referral, please call the roll Manny Meyer Montemayor Ratke Ryan Susha Vander wheel Warren Urg Serda Davis Graf Hannah Kittleson Clowness Three eyes ten nose motion fails. We will continue with the discussion on I'm sorry. It's three and twelve nose. I'm sorry. Yes, I understood. I knew you did. I Was actually counting that's good We will continue with the discussion Putting a resolution upon its passage as amended. We still have some lights blinking here all in my Thank you, your honor I too do not believe that the Edson actually fits down at the Blue Harbor area And I also have concerns with the city in Michigan that has been trying to get this ship there for the last few years And I don't understand why we as a city would take this away from another city That has been working hard and has raised a few million dollars already in Obtaining this ship. I think it's wrong for us to do this and as far as fitting in down at You know the piece of the puzzle I don't believe that this ship was in the original plan for that South Pier district So I don't think this is a piece to any puzzle down there. Thank you Kelvin Meyer President Berg, you're next sir. Yes. Thank you, your honor Fortunately rather than talking about synergies in between projects We're talking about incompatibility and I guess I don't see that there is an incompatibility between these two projects One of the things we haven't talked about and it's often difficult to talk about is Things called patriotism Today was a good day The flag was flying at full staff from city hall that meant that a Wisconsin soldier did not die That a family did not receive a folded flag with the word on behalf of a grateful nation We sit up here tonight as a legislature The events of the last century of the last several centuries serve as a backdrop and a reminder of The price that has been paid over those centuries to allow folks like us to gather in chambers like this To do the people's business in a peaceful and democratic manner Is there a tie-in with Sheboygan? Military service has a tie-in with every community for every community has a flag at half mass Some place in the United States. I Was in the infantry We did not have a lot of artifacts an m16 a steel pot Pair of jungle boots the occasional Huey helicopter and APC and if we were lucky somebody might have had a playboy magazine We had very few artifacts Veterans of my era very rarely roll themselves in the flag Especially when it comes to combat veterans But we need to provide an enhance the opportunity For our students to get a sense of the sacrifice hardship and also the opportunity that military service brings We also need to give them the opportunity to hear those stories of patriotism from the individuals who served and Where else could an old man like myself take my grandchildren? To talk about what life was like as a 27-year-old platoon leader Taking over a platoon from Lieutenant Stephen Doan Kilt Awarded at the Congressional Medal of Honor That's the connection. Thank you Almond Ryan second time sir. Thank you. You're out or I commend Alderman Berg in his honesty Why do we want to? Take the ship away from Saginaw. That's a simple question to answer. We're Sheboygan. We're not Saginaw We don't live in Saginaw We want this ship for Sheboygan. We want this ship for Wisconsin. We want this ship for our citizens As Alderperson Berg has said Alderman Berg president Berg has said This is more than tourist attraction. This is a memorial And I think that we should we should be honored to have this memorial in Sheboygan It will draw a different type of person than the spaceport. I believe and probably some of the same people Um but I I believe as a memorial and as a tourist attraction It can be nothing but good for our community. Thank you. Thank you Alderman Ryan Next we have Alderman Vanderweel Thank you honor tonight really is a great night I mean what other city in Wisconsin can say while we're arguing what we should approve NASA or Navy What should we do first? It's it's really amazing to me, but I was against this mostly because of parking and And I was looking at it and then I started problem-solving. I started thinking well What what else can we do? How else can we do it? that The sport would be a great thing. What would be able to do it and As Alderman Ryan mentioned we have roadways and there's different roads there, but what we're missing is we have waterways and if you if you go and The Wisconsin Dalles or other tourist sites in the state or in the country half of the experience is getting there they at the Camilo whole meeting they mentioned the water taxi and we can use the water taxi to to access the boat and There's just so many other ways we can get there using the waterways that we have I Feel at this point. We needed to explore bringing that sit here with an open mind. Thank you Thank you, and Alderman spare with me. We've got lots of light blinking Alderman Boren second time sir Thank you your honor I'm going to continue to support this agreement with some trepidation But I think we had a good agreement to begin with and I think we improve improve this agreement tonight with the With what we just passed a few minutes ago. I've had a lot of calls about this over the weekend Even had people talk to me before and after church yesterday, which is very unusual But I've reassured my constituents that this is just the beginning as Alderman Hannah said this is a stepping stone and The winds of people have a lot of hoops to go through They have to do that parking study They have to deal with the dredging down there that that in itself may be an insurmountable problem But let's at least find out about it If I'm on the council when when Windsor goes through all the hoops I'm going to look at that next agreement just as hard as I did with this one And it's going to have to be as in my opinion as ironclad as this one for me to support it then But I will support this document tonight. Thank you Next we have Alderman Kittleson Thank you your honor. I guess I just my comment is From the committee of the whole meeting last week of a gentleman who spoke from the Rockets for school program He made a statement that was so refreshing to me and that it was that he said I think we can work along with the winds of people and And I did I thought that was just wonderful to hear we can work along with people And and I'm wondering and I know that the winds of people would be more than willing to work along with the spaceport people I think we should all work together to try and make everything To work down there and I think they'd be willing to do that and that's that that's how I see it too Thank you, Alderman Kittleson Vice president Serta Thank you your honor Tonight in your own words you have mentioned the importance of economic development and this project is one that would fall into that category and To allow they say the best Advertisement the best way to advertise is word of mouth And I think it would say much about this city in terms of giving everybody an equal opportunity If we allow this project just to be looked at Some of the concerns that were addressed tonight is is something that we're going to look at and if at at the end of the day It doesn't seem to be a suitable fit. I know there's many hurdles that will still need to be jumped We can still shake hands and walk away saying that we tried and I think that's what we can say here Is that we're giving every developer an equal opportunity in Sheboygan? Thank you Thank you vice president Serta Alderman Susha second time Thank you, mr. Mayor I guess in my definition of good economic development there comes with it a tax base And I do appreciate Alderman born's proposal tonight to charge them $5,000 a year rent But when you're talking about something in this magnitude, you know if they were building this on land They'd be paying, you know over a hundred thousand dollars a year to me That's what economic development is about is what you're going to do the tax base So it lowers the property tax for the citizens I do agree with Alderman Hannah when he said that this is probably a long shot that Windsor would actually be successful in bringing this boat here But I did receive some questions in the community after the community the whole meeting I was unable to attend and I wasn't able to watch it But I understand there was some discussion that if this boat's not available that they could bring in a potential different boat And there have been some issues in regards. So is there a bait and switch program going on here? They're presenting us with a vessel that's in great shape And then at the last minute if it goes to Saginaw then also we're going to wind up with a rusty bucket And I would like city attorney McLean to address that issue I talked to him a little bit about before the meeting and I'd like him to answer that and then just my last thought on this Is that you know a lot of people also in the community were complaining when Blue Harbor initially went up that obstructed their view and you know when it's on land It's kind of hard to give the public an opportunity to decide if a private entities wants to build something But this isn't on land and perhaps the answer to find out what the citizens really want is that maybe on the spring election We need to have a referendum to find out what the citizens want. Do they want it or not? So if if city attorney McLean could just address the issue in regards to this development agreement I understand that it's it's specific to the Edson and no other vessel Attorney McLean, thank you your honor If you look at the paragraph number four contingencies Sub a this is on page three the first contingencies this subway shall further be contingent and transfer possession of the premises shall occur Upon the following a is transfer of the USS Edson by the secretary of the Navy to Winza in accordance with applicable federal law and Regulations to transfer the Navy vessels to non-profit entities Doesn't talk about other vessels talks about the eds. That's the contingency If that contingency isn't met then you don't go forward It's not to say the council couldn't choose to change the deal down the road if you want it, but That's the contingency in this agreement is transfer of the Edson by the Navy to wince Thank you, attorney McLean Alderman graph Thank you, your honor I too was unavailable to make the the committee of the whole meeting but since that meeting I've received a lot of information from my fellow all the persons regarding on what transpired there and I've supported having the wins of people look at look at this Place for a higher for their there were for their boat to be docked excuse me And I still think it's a good idea. I think as Alderman Kittleson said These groups can work together and will be willing to work together to see what can be done You heard all of them former alderman and present-state representative Terry McRin say tonight that they support us moving forward on this and that down the road if this becomes a reality They can we will be able to work with them to get with them the state to get funds and to maybe get grants and so forth that will help bring this To be a true tourist of traction and so forth and so for those reasons I will continue to support this and see what the wins of people can do in the time they have available To bring this ship into the sporting harbor. Thank you all my graph. We've got two more Alderman Davis sir honorable mayor. I Asked for a question There's a call in the second to call the question All in favor say aye Any opposed questions been called. Please call the roll the motion is to put resolution 1835 upon its passage as amended and You have the amendments. Please call the roll Manny Meyer Montemay or Radke Ryan Sushia Vander wheel Boran Berg Serta Davis graph Hannah Kittleson and Clioness 11 eyes for nose motion carries 1836 lies over 1837 through 1838 to be referred report of committee 6 1839 by the committee of the whole recommended a favorable recommendation to the agreement between the city of Sheboygan and Windsor for birthing the USS Edson in the Sheboygan Harbor Alderman Vander wheel Thank you, honor. I move The truth that the RCB accepted and adopted Motion second to accept and adopt any discussion There being on all those in favor say aye any opposed One opposition Meyer report of committee 7 1840 by the building use committee reporting that Zimmerman architectural studios presented the preliminary plan and designed for the police station For the police depart police department should be police station building and was accepted by the committee and is attached for informational purposes 1840 Alderman graph Thank you, your honor. I would move that the RCB accepted and adopted Motion second under discussion There'd be a none all those in favor say aye any opposed Motion carries 1841 by the committee of the whole Recommended filing resolution to terminate the city's consideration of the proposal to locate the USS Edson in the Sheboygan Harbor Alderman Vander wheel Thank you, honor. I move that the RCB accepted and adopted Motion the second to adopt except an adopt 1841. Please call the roll Kilsen Clowness Manny Meyer Montemay or Radke Excuse me Thank you, Ryan Susha Vander wheel hi Warren Berg Serta Davis graph and Hannah 12 eyes three nose motion carries 1842 by law and licensing recommended filing ordinance creating the commission on community relations a division 13 of article 5 of chapter 2 The municipal code Alderman Ratke Thank you, your honor. I move to put the To accept and adopt the report of committee Motion and second to accept and adopt any discussion There being non, please call the roll Clowness Manny Meyer Montemay or Ratke Ryan Susha Vander wheel Warren Berg Serta Davis graph Hannah Kittleson 12 eyes three nose motion carries 1843 to be referred Reported committees 8 1844 by finance recommended authorizing a transfer of appropriations and the 06 budget Alderman drop Thank you, your honor that document along with 1845 which is Which is Authorizing a transfer of appropriations also in the 2006 budget I would move that both RCs be accepted and adopted and the substitute resolution in 1844 we put upon its passage and the resolution in 1845 we put upon its passage Motion and second any discussion Be none, please call the roll Manny Meyer Montemay or Ratke Ryan Susha Vander wheel Warren Berg Serta Davis graph Hannah Kittleson Clowness 15 eyes motion carries 1846 by the special committee on risk management Recommend and authorizing the city to enter into contract for obtaining medical stub loss insurance all in the graph Thank you, your honor. I would move the RC be accepted and adopted and that the resolution be put upon its passage Ocean the second under discussion All in a sushi Thank you, your honor. I understand the importance of passing this tonight because we do need stop-loss insurance in place in January of 2007 I have a simple yes or no question. Did the city send out a request for proposal for stop-loss insurance for 2007? I don't know rich rich Would you please come up to the podium? question is Mr. Gephardt of the city sent out a RFP on the stop-loss Thank You, your honor The person agent works with associated financial. It's been our consultant for Such areas as to obtain stop-loss Proposals in which and they have provided that for several years I know you don't all have a copy of this, but this is Multi-pages of the proposals that were received To the five or six companies that are on here I can read them off if you like but the It's a coordination between the person agent and J. Scott of associated financial to obtain these proposals As they have in previous years I'm so sure you have follow-up question. Yes. Thank you, your honor So the answer is no the city did not do a request for proposal. We just did yes The city has through their consultant J. Scott of associated financial and then did he Publish that publicly for everyone or did he hand select which ones he went to? He went to the insurance companies So I'm not sure what you mean by publishing like didn't want he knows the Contacts to the insurance companies. I can read off the companies or major companies I know of all the all of the insurance providers in the city of Sheboygan. We're giving the opportunity to bid on it That's really what I'm a question. Well, these are not You know the only insurance company really have any size here is acuity and I don't think they have this type of coverage They're not in this line of coverage. You're working with companies of ING standard security American general American national Orion You know these are major international companies. They're not just local Sheboygan brokers You know if you wish to talk about whether or not we should be with associated financial versus some other Consultant that's a different question But a consultant isn't the insurance company Consultant ties their clients to the companies Thank you. Thank you Rich Woman boring Thank You your honor. I have a couple questions on this. I hope somebody here can answer them What is the amount? What is the stop-loss amount and if I understand what stop-loss is I believe that's where the exposure from the employee stops and Where the major medical kicks in and my second question is is that is this put having the stop-loss? Coverage is this eventually going to save us some money on what we're paying for health insurance Or it's just just an additional benefit. That's good to have. Thank you the stop-loss term For what is being proposed here is a hundred and twenty five thousand on the specific That means of any individual and their total claims in a given year including prescriptions exceed 125,000 the insurance company will pay beyond that We as you know our self-insured this is our one layer of insurance protection Is for catastrophic type claims? So we have a specific we also have part of this is the aggregate which means if our total claims went Extremely high there also is a layer of insurance for us For that protection also, but we also took Quotations at a hundred and fifty thousand But it was recommended to remain at the hundred and twenty five thousand specific Please It would be under the stop-loss Yes Having this stop-loss coverage is this a potential for us for some savings in our premiums, it's obviously it's risk shifting to the insurance company for the catastrophic claims this year we've had I think seven that have exceeded a hundred and twenty five thousand and I think We will be recovering more than what we're paying in premium in this year Which make it's also with ing for 2006. So I think my opinion this is Pleasant to see this renewal coming from them because before we had a different company and when our claims went high their Quotation went extremely high. Thank you. Thank you. I'm born. We have one more over in Hanna. Do you have a question for much to get part? Please do sure. I think that thank you rich your explanation was was very good I think the opportunity for us to to save money in a situation like this is When we do collect the bids on that stop-loss, it's it's a competitive bidding situation That's where we really need to to look carefully and see what the market is For that because the savings comes That stop-loss policy is a commodity. And so we're trying to find the lowest bid on that commodity That's where the savings comes from Thank you. Oh, man. Hanna the motion is to accept an adopt 1846 and put the resolution upon its pastors Please call the roll Meyer Montemay or Ratke Ryan Susha Vander wheel Warren Serta Davis graph Hanna Kittlesen Clayunas and Manny 15 eyes motion carries ordinances introduced 10 1847 through 1849 to be referred matters laid over 1763 Resolution number 1850607 Oldman Ryan approving the terms and conditions of the ground lease and contract for lease of land between The redevelopment authority and the new horizon investments incorporated all of them Ryan Thank you, your honor. I moved that the resolution be put upon its passage Motion in second under discussion All right, okay. I will refer to it attorney McLean. Thank you I just wanted to point out to the council that there are revised documents on your desks the changes are more or less superficial that The name of the developer was changed. I believe I mentioned this a couple of council meetings ago, but It was originally new horizon investments Inc the The owners tried to get that name Registered with the Secretary of State and they came back and said that's too similar to other corporations that would perhaps appear confusing to individuals so they changed the name to new horizon development of Sheboygan, Inc the The exhibit a's on the two documents are filled in originally we were looking at the lot a part of lot five of South Pier The property that's being leased or it would be leased that once the ground leases entered into is part of lot four So it's a little to the west farther to the west on the south pier still along the river There was one clerical error corrected that Were the number reflected 1.2 million dollars in investment, but the but the The text just referenced the 200,000 so the million was added to the million 200,000 Other than that it's Really no change in the agreement Thank you turn McLean held on Ryan sir. Thank you your honor This is a great example of development in the South Pier district. This is These are local Sheboygan investors long-time Sheboygan residents that are investing a minimum of 1.2 million dollars Into the South Pier district. It's it's the future of Sheboygan. It's a good thing. Thank you Good point. Thank you very much. I'll win Ryan. Okay. We are going to call the roll Montemayor Ricky Ryan Susha Vander wheel Lauren Berg Serta Davis graph Hannah Kittleson Clowness Manny and Meyer 15 eyes Motion carries 1757 General ordinance number 540607 by Oldman Meyer and designating certain city-owned lands for park purposes as part of Elwood H May Environmental Park and 1758 Does doing the same thing for the park purposes as part of every park all the Meyer both Thank You your honor. I would move that the general ordinances be put upon the passage Motion and second any discussion All right, thank you your honor under discussion. This is Areas on Maywood area and the evergreen park area and there were parts of city land Scattered in between these two parks and what we have done now is we have taken the city land and we have designated at Parkland Guaranteeing that there will no longer be a tail or drive extension running through there or any other kind Of building in the future. Thank you. Thank you. Myer. Please call the roll Radke Ryan Susha Vander wheel Oran Berg Serta Davis graph Hannah Kittleson Clowness Manny Meyer and Montemay or 15 eyes motion carries 1765 general ordinance number 560607 by Alderman Vander wheel Serta Meyer Montemay or and bird relating to no parking areas to move a no parking any time Zone on the south side of Grand Avenue Alderman Vander wheel Thank You your honor. I moved to put the general ordinance upon his passage Motion second under discussion There being none Please call the roll Ryan Susha Vander wheel for hassled I'm sorry Born Berg Serta Davis graph Hannah Kittleson Clowness Manny Meyer Montemay or and 15 eyes motion carries other matters attorney McLean You can help me 1764 with that address already 1764 That's going for next time see it wasn't on the agenda it's not on the agenda No, we'll wait 1764 Yes, your honor It is a Resolution authorizing the director of human resources and labor relations to negotiate settlement of insurance claims not to exceed 15,000 without prior approval from the risk management committee of the common council that lies over 1850 is a communication From Michael Clark 2130 North 28th Street regarding a situation with a stray pit bull Pacing in front and back of their home and wanting clarification as to the role of the police department regarding public safety with this issue That will be referred to public protection and safety 1851 is a communication from Diane Weber 5025 White Fox Drive disputing an amount of a special assessment they paid when they purchased the property that will be referred to finance committee 1852 is an arrow by the city clerk submitting various license applications for the period ending June 30 2007 and June 30 2008 That will be referred to law and licensing 1853 is a resolution directing the Department of Public Works to post various alleys Along the south side of Michigan Avenue as no parking in alley as listed below and was south alleys in the 800 900 100 1100 and 1300 blocks of Michigan Avenue that will lie over 1854 as a resolution directing the Department of Public Works to post a no parking here to corner sign along the west side of North 10th Street 15 feet south of the south edge of the crosswalk at Michigan Avenue that will lie over Motion second to adjourn all in favor say aye stand adjourned