 I seal the breakfast on plus TV Africa time for all the press and we usually take you through the pages of the national dailies and also have a guest who joins us this morning open up on Kota area is on standby. Good morning and Merry Christmas once again. Good morning to you sir. All right then let's start off with the daily independent newspaper. I would like to look at the big stories on the daily independent newspaper this morning. Now the board caption reads at 34.51 trillion Naira banks lending not lift an economy that's what experts are saying says business still grappling with poor funding big story on the daily independent and that's the rider away from that you also find Sarah edges Buhari to probe alleged missing 3.1 billion Naira in finance ministry performance enhancing drugs can lead to sudden death as what NAFDAQ is quoted to say account for interest on 34 billion Naira in fixed deposits Senate tells PEF rights group condemns please terrorist approach in Uche and Osu's arrest and please does what not so clear so we'll just move away from that minister vows to probe next cash and carry ministers vow to probe next cash and carry supermarket fire incident that's unfortunate incident happened yesterday and you also have Desmond Tutu made a Mac for peace unity in Africa there's also a big one on the daily independent newspaper why federal government's whistleblowing policy has really slowed down find out who's saying all of that and don't join striking details newly inducted doctors this is some of the headlines on the daily independent newspaper this morning and now to the punch newspapers so we can find over here big one there says the state's revive isolation centers COVID-19 cases soar vaccination grounded at 3.9% Ogun has 260 bed spaces 537 bed spaces on occupied in Lagos infections hit 236,000 as military police fail to enforce vaccination okura child lambas is a dimma and IG as son-in-law is arrested in church also amoteco haunts ritualist as Osu sex worker vomits blood after proposed threesome ok punch also on the punch newspapers this morning manpower can cause organ damage and the sudden death NAVDAC warns FCT pledges probe residents loot items as massive fire consumes Abuja mall of course we also spoke about that earlier to clarify on the looting story review forex ban on 40 items to save the Naira economy still CBN Buhari wash a bus in jaw Ramaphosa mourn as anti-epathite icon desmond tutu dies at 90 and finally 55 billion Naira crude oil lost to vandalism and others in three months as NNPC report let's move away from the punch and check out the leadership news people this morning board caption says a power play in emo as please arrest or courage as son-in-law in church you also have riders arrests plot by governor who's a dimma to frame up my family or courage as quoted to say says security operatives humiliated wife daughter stop raising false alarm emo government tackles former governor that back and forth this morning cholera killing more Nigerians than COVID-19 experts are saying that you also find world leaders man desmond tutu and that's also dominating all of the papers this morning NAVDAC warns against use of sex enhancing drugs a course for a letter consent poor monitoring maz 92.4 billion women empowerment projects looting spree as next cash and carry goes up in flames of course there has been you know clarified that rather citizens or residents were seen helping and carrying out some of those goods that's the much we can take on the leadership newspaper and I'm moving on to the nation this morning big one there says constitution review Senate for closes state creation election matters to end at appeal court and also governors to exercise control over police 70 year 70 years retirement age for all judges Buhari Obasan Joe Obama and others mourn tutu world leaders commiserate with Ramaphosa and South Africans three die in Shagamu Binian expressway accident and seven kidnapped in Iqiti and Zaria also in the nation this morning we can see top right corner federal government to inducted doctors Sean strike 32 billion Naira debt local contractors accused ministry of non-payment and a Korocha emo government clash over wonsu's arrest these are the stories that we can share from the nation good one and once again mr. Incotaria I think it's right that we start with the death of my bishop Desmond tutu and your thoughts on that very very sad event yesterday was an iconic and the South African struggle for equality and so he's dead will be greatly missed by the world and especially South Africa he lived long it made his role and I strongly believe that is one man that will never be forgotten not just in South Africa worldwide he came he saw he conquered and he's so worse than perfect he's somebody down the great myth in terms of advice he was quite active in his new place but I don't think he should have you could have done anything more a time I thought he's done to join the series as the case may be so may he so rest in perfect you'll be greatly missed his advice to be greatly missed by South African and the world it was an international figure they went beyond the boundaries of South Africa in terms of balance yeah I want you to go on and there's something I want to quickly ask someone here shared something it says as men like a bishop tutu and his generation are passing I wonder who the great men and women who are shaping the direction of Africa and its geopolitics geopolitics are now and says I think the quality of leadership across the world has dropped do you agree with that and does it worry you that the quality of leadership across the world seems to have dropped and of course that doesn't seem to be the likes of Desmond Tutu taken over from where he left off well yeah the quality are dropped especially in the third world countries like Nigeria no doubt about that because we have leaders you know I keep saying this with distorted perception of life you have the likes of Desmond Tutu the likes of Nelson Mandela who were twisted in nature but the leaders we have right now it goes centric and have a ratio you know that we for money is in a sneakable whereas in the case of Desmond Tutu and Mandela this is a human being who put the nation and humanity first they maximize that and minimize their own comfort so they are all out to ensure a better society a better community then show peace law there's a quality no discrimination but the leaders we have right now are leaders who are bent on discrimination who are bent on a certain line in their own pocket they want you to subservient in order to get what you want for example we have the kids in Nigeria for example a situation where your loyalty is not to a nation your loyalty is to an individual so you have talks criminals being rewarded with political appointment for the government to give me give your life to fly the ticket of a political party for either house of rest, house of assembly, district or even get a Christian as you have appointment you must have done some death itself for that government it is not based on your intelligence it is not based on what you can offer but it is based on how many people you can kill it is based on how many ballot boxes you can carry and that's why we are happy with the introduction of this electronic transmission of results and that's why people climb up for it and that's why people I've been talking about the direct families although it is not improved but that's why people talk of it I think it's going to, it's going to minimize, so unlike majority as against meritocracy it's the other of the day right now with our politicians so it has to do with intelligence, it has to do a lot with how many people you can kill how many people you can fight how many people you can abuse for example they want you to abuse your grandfather you see a small boy in his twenties in his childhood calling a grandfather you're a thief you're a media, simply because it's principal wants him to so be and that is what we've gotten it wrong we've lost something we are with the real community all like the days of Mandela and Co who were advocates they were there to ensure positive change in the society they were not about themselves they emphasized themselves and emphasized the society and emphasized humanity so that's about the base of our society today and the world at large all right let's look at the leadership newspaper this morning leadership says power play anymore is please arrest or court his son-in-law in church now part of this time we also had reports saying there was a kidnap but i like you to show your thoughts on that do you think this is a power play yes actually this is a power play but there are significant circumstances the issue is this the home is it guilty of the allegation it is guilty of the little that he played into the eye i agree there is no love love love between okorata and uh who put of them at the present government they are in this deluge going on for quite some time and because of and it is occasioned by succession okorata wanted his son-in-law to succeed in wish to know what they may be doing for us that's the point and that's the point i was trying to take that i have a leader today think of them so first before thinking of any other person not minding the consequences of their action so and who was Azuma was one of the major targets of okorata so it was it was like that at that time and this is i am now in position i will now will my bitch be i will now ensure that i deal with you for trying to truncate my ambition becoming a governor and that is exactly what is going on it is partly about that for what i disagree with the arrest of washi during his mother's outing service i think that it uh i would like it it it it last it it is insensitive for who put Azuma to have done that probably they felt that's the best way and the best time to arrest it they might escape after that time but i don't think to all you need to do is to monitor it that's all you need to do i probably allow him to go through the outing service and the reception then you can arrest him but not to arrest him just in church during his mother's outing service i don't think that is what is for it it's mass of insensitivity it's not proper i i told me i don't think but if you guys probably have a better reason for that probably they must have tried to get back and pay and felt this was the best opportunity that they had and yeah just just to quickly mention um and i think you may also want to respond to this the the reason uh the initial story was of uh kidnapping and not arrest by the police force was because the very first video that um um was put out concerning his arrest showed lots of gunfire a lot of man handling and then at the end you know the person said oh they've put uh Uche Wonshu in the trunk of the car um and it it seems like that's the way that he was arrested not in any way that it was professional or as expected of a professional police force um and so that's initially why it was seen as a kidnapping so i want you to you know respond to that you know the seeming barbaric nature of the arrest the fact is um you are not kidnapped it doesn't establish you have arrested by the police now they probably did that based on the information i got this was up you can be too sure maybe Uche Wonshu to have talks and and men surrounding him so the best thing way to go about it was to scare the crowd away and to also let those installs announcement know that they are equally battled and should there be any resistance nobody was killed nobody was hurt they shot into the air they must have done that professionally i'm not seen of the facts they must have done that i'm also not holding this they must have done that professionally normally when they raid your house what they do to scare people away is to shoot into the air they do shoot at any particular moment so i don't think that's an issue the major concern should be first why was they arrested is it lawful was there warrant of arrest if there was a warrant of arrest fine in the cause of the arrest was anybody hurt nobody was hurt was any other person humanized nobody was humanized nobody was brutalized so why should we bother about whether the shot into the air or not we were talking of fear it was going to create fear all Nigeria they did not brought everywhere it's normal when you hear gunshots you'll be scared but when you finally realize why these good shots shots you are made you will come to them to the park but yes there's no problem no matter you're not hurt you none of your properties are not destroyed i don't think that should be an issue my major concern should be why was he arrested why he was having the house in service for his mother that is it otherwise he can be arrested if they come to my house and shoot into the air all they are trying to do is probably based on information that they suppose that they believe i have talks i have admin that could could resist and they want to first of all Miss Angotara is it also okay you know to if verify to put a a suspect in the trunk of a car no that is completely wrong that is unacceptable oh that that's what i was referring to initially not just a gunshot no no no no no no no no no no that's completely unacceptable that's i mean i mean he cannot be treated with such a dignity completely unacceptable why would you put him in trunk of the car you want to kill him before you get to the destination or what The Trump of the car is not meant for humanity. It's meant to carry the boxes. The advance, you go to buy your rap hall, buy your goods and you put in the Trump of the car, buy some, you get your, they don't even go to a rap in there. Why do you have to subject it to such a form of indignity? It's absolutely wrong. And I think the authorities should stop this nonsense. And the only way they can stop this nonsense is by ensuring that all those who are expected to be arrested should be dealt with, should they subject any individual to such indignity. It is completely unaccented. Completely unaccented. So but what do you make of the fact that? It's the handcuff. It's the handcuff and put at the back of the car in the middle with one security officer, he can go down on his left and on his right. That is enough. Why put him in the trunk of the car? Why? What has he done? Even if you commit murder, you are not allowed to put him in the trunk of the car. And as the worst crime anybody can commit, murder. So that's completely unaccented. Completely unaccented. All right. But over time, I'm sure that we'll definitely just move away from this. It feels like it has become the order of the day where you find state actors using... That's what I'm saying, exactly. That's what I'm saying. But where you find state actors using... That is lawless. It isn't the country that is lawless. Lawless society, including Mr President himself is lawless. And if you ask me, I can prove it. Where a court will admit somebody to jail and the President will say no. So it's also lawless. And when the top is right, what do you expect? The bottom will also be right. What's the problem with having this court? We live in a lawless, where the rule of law is to take and have this rule of justice happens on the property. All right. Mr Angotara, also on the punch this morning, of course we can't not talk about it. It says here, states revive isolation centers. COVID-19 cases soar and vaccination, grounded at 3.9%. It also states about 260 bed spaces in Ogun state and 537 in Lagos. The Omicron virus seems to be spreading and is Nigeria ready, as it seems? You're asking if Nigeria is ready? Yes, Nigeria is ready. To make more money for the committees that will be set up at the north of the surge. If you say that we are ready, why do you have to shut down the centers that are open? What was the rationale behind that? Now they are saying they are reviving their reopening because they are going to have one more contract. But I want to shut it down. It's like a clinic. COVID-19 has come to stay. We'll keep having mutations, variants, for it's like malaria now. It's like typhoon now. It has come to stay. So what are you shutting down the centers of? Whether they shut or not. It's just like malaria. It's just like typhoon. What did you expect is the building of more centers for this COVID-19? I'm not shutting that. So after this variant, when it is contained to a very large extent, then they shut down again. They're now spending more money to start renewing, to start buying fresh things. Why? Why is it so necessary? So lack of planning. That could tell you how rather less our leaders are actually. Very rather less. They don't plan. They don't think ahead. COVID-19 is more less like malaria and typhoon right now. So you don't need to shut down centers. It's a completely necessary. And that should not even make any headlines. Why should that make headlines? Maybe the paper lacks what to publish. News. But that should only make headlines. That they're opening more hospitals is that news? COVID-19 centers are like hospitals. So is that news? That they're opening up more hospitals? When they cannot even take care of the even national rock clinic. National rock clinic cannot even carry out a minor soldier, according to the wife of the president. There is no media in there in national rock clinic. So what is the news about? What we want to hear is that we now have one class hospitals all over in at least 36 days of the production. So that is kind of into us. So you reduce the cost of the medical bills. If the federal government should set up these hospitals, like general hospitals, to find out that the commoner, those at the bottom of the spectrum that will be able to work it on a post-medical bill, the attention, treatment. And not to resort to private hospitals where you have the best. But I tell you, you're going to then almost save your life to save your life. Because the bills are high. The charges are quite high. Even though the federal government should not, I'm not going to have on COVID, COVID, COVID, COVID. COVID is like any other disease right now. You should have the centers for built hospitals, won't last hospitals. So that we end this medical tourism. Because you will have shown that the president is constantly traveling out of the country for medical tourism. In some other cities, at last it's 27 years. So we shouldn't be talking of COVID centers. That is no news offer. It's no news whatsoever. We shouldn't be talking of COVID centers, 15 of more COVID, reviving COVID centers and so forth. And what is the news there? That's not news. It's not news offer, as I've told you. All right. Just I hear that what is taking the president out of the country, country has been provided for in this country. I'll be happy to hear such a thing. What I have, what I hear, the problem, those problems, whatever problems we have, we have the qualified doctors. And we also have the facilities. Okay. And that will make the case. All right. Let's also look at the daily independent and share your thoughts on this one. Sir App urges Bohari to probe alleged missing 3.1 billion in finance ministry. Should the president be urged to go ahead with probe? Don't we have mechanisms already that should under agencies that were created by government to swing into action without necessarily asking the president to go ahead with the probe? Let me comment sir. I will say that the president, we need to point the president because if either he's not aware, in those words, there is nothing about wealth, if either he's not aware, or he's not willing to, because there is very much here on the part of the president to push a kid who's loyalist. I have a plethora of cases to back my session. So he needs to be urged. Otherwise, Mr. President, I want to do it on a long subject in the land of lethargic sleep and inertia. Nothing concerns him. He's not aware of anything. He's only aware of when the next trip is getting back up. Whether the trip makes sense, the trip is reasonable, the trip is one, one, one thing. That is no concern. He wants to come back on the next trip trying to make up for the trip she never made when he was at the state. So every single time I'm leaving where you're supposed to send a minister, a special advisor, he wants to be there and he got there fucking nothing. Fucking nothing, making no contribution whatsoever. So he has to be urged. Because tomorrow he's just a man who's sent an intelligence officer to Bruno, gone to Bruno a few weeks after I was told that there was never fucking going. And he said he was not aware that when he goes down to Abu Dhabi to investigate and that was the end of the matter. So we need to urge him. He might not be aware. He might not be aware. Let us urge him. And without the surprise, I assume we need mechanisms in place. But do we have those institutions with us? And those mechanisms are controlled by the president? If one of these Malamitians does not say, oh, please, don't investigate this, most of these institutions will not investigate. Because in legal machine, I would not be setting motion against the institution or against the perpetrator. And that's why most of these things are made public. So that the hands of the government are protected. But in most cases, they are not given water. They are not even concerned. If you will, they are made public. Not whenever they are not made public. You can urge them to investigate, to investigate from now to tomorrow, unless Mr. President gives it, go ahead. They will not investigate. And even when they commit the investigation, if Mr. President or the presidency is with Malamit, is in trouble in that matter and wants them to investigate at the age of eight. So what you set up is doing what you're doing is actually making this issue public so that there will be a lot of pressure from Nigeria to ensure for anything Mr. President tells you, then it's a record. And whoever succeeds, might want to commit the investigation into this issue. Yeah, but don't you think we should get to a place where it's not dependent on a go-ahead from the presidency or not? That is what I'm saying. That's like a bad system to find ourselves in. And like Sarah probably is not expecting the investigation to come into play with you. Mr. President might not even be interested. That's the point I'm making. But it's also mainly pressure for those that will succeed the president. They'll say, oh, this is what we have that wants the investigation. These are the issues that we want it to investigate. Because if Mr. President is interested in those in war, and it's official not good, and it's legal, nothing will come out of this climate. You will talk and talk and talk and nothing will happen. Although Comments have done the matters in the best you get. And the thing is though, forever, like the Salamis case against Mahmoud, you have the issue of the DCP that involves the hushpuppet. You have the issue of Babar-Shawar, the former FJF. Yeah, there's a lot of that. Though that's okay, let's just start the investigation to end this matter in public domain. And nothing will come out of this. So Salam just wants the world to know so that if the world of Mr. President leaves, and he has a succession that has the interest of Nigeria and Nigerians of heart, in my comments, but then do you need Mr. President? No. Does Salam need to make this move? No, you all have the institutions. You have the agencies. You have the agencies. You don't go ahead to do coverage because of this. But if you will not, because you wait for Malami, what do you do if they go and Malami does not come out of it? Malami does not mention all kinds of work. All kinds of work. Then a major problem that has taken place in this country, Malami's name is gone. What has come out of it? Nothing. But that's just it. But as you leave the institutions, I'm not in the big guns. Mr. President is out of the big guns. He doesn't try to enjoy when he leaves office. That's why you need institutions. But in any civilized country, every Mr. President says, do not investigate. The citizen will say no. We will go ahead to investigate. Because we have the mandate. So do you. Either constitutionally or by static. We have the mandate. But it's not the case here. If you go ahead, then you'll be able to go the next minute. And people just shout for two, three, four, there's one week and after that it's all over. What are the problems he did? What are the problems he did? He did. All right. So put up in Kottaria. Thank you very much for kicking off the week with us. And of course, I share your thoughts on these very, very important stories making headlines this morning. We wish you a very, very interesting celebration ahead. Thank you. Are we done? Yes, we are. Thank you for being part of the show. We do appreciate your time. Are we done? Yes, we are. All right. Good morning. Are you here to talk to Mr. Nassau? No problem. Thank you very much for staying with us so far. We'll take a short break. What happened on this day in history? Many, many years ago, we'll be sharing with you. 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