 You just feel like a real pedophile right now No way wrong of you to do that intro Wow, I'm sorry. Hey welcome back to our stupid director. He's up Corbin. That was perfect. And you can false any scrubs Petron what's happening and if you're like is there something different going on? Yes Yes, shower con is hanging upside down behind us. That's true. And that's the only thing to notice here There's nothing else to see here here nothing at all today. We're doing a movie of you And this is of the new film that is actually currently still in theaters. Yes, it is Called Garg Gargi Gargi. Sure That's what I would do Gargi. I'd call it Gargi. It's a 2022 film directed by say his name for me, please Gotham Ramachandran who is also one of the writers as well and then starring Sigh Palavi if I'm mispronouncing that please forgive me as always and then and Cali Venkat are a Shivaji Cavillify a Christian Saravanan it's it's her film Mostly yeah, it's her character story The way we're actually viewing this because it actually did not come to at least LA Because obviously it's a smaller Tamil film And so we don't always get those sadly I did reach out to the director because I heard a bunch of really good things and I was like, hey Sometimes sometimes they're willing to send us some screeners. Yeah, and he was yeah, and so I want to thank him Thank you. We're sending that too. It's not a paid review. We don't do those We don't know but I just I want to shout that whenever people are that kind to yeah Actually do that for us. Yeah, we hate missing stuff because we don't get in theaters but obviously we know it happens because We're not the main demographic obviously right and it costs a lot of money to distribute it put stuff in theaters Yeah, so um nonce Non-spoiler. Yeah, it's gonna do mostly mostly not and then if we get into some spoils because it's still in a we'll Let you know before we get to the spoils But go watch it. It's in theaters right now at least hopefully I know in Tamil. It'll be in theaters in theaters Yeah, I'll elsewhere around India. I don't know how prevalent it is. So just look it up Yeah, but Rick your initial thoughts, please Well, and because we got a screener it always gives you another level of hope like we've said we always hope a film's gonna be good Just because we never who wants a bad film and then you add another level if it's somebody that we know like who's a toast, right? Yeah, like if the more most recent dose that we've seen and actually been spending time with his on-your-ug So when he does a film you're really rooting for it because you don't want to have a bad review And you're gonna be honest. So when a director sends you the actual film, you're really hoping please Please I don't right. Thankfully I Love this movie is a very good film this for me in my rating system for those of you who know So I do like my my five stars based on the first one being if it's entertaining and engaging if it's educational if it's excellent If it's enlightening and then if it's essential This is five stars. Yeah, this this thing if you have not seen it and you can go see it Please support this film. Go see this movie. I was talking to another director who actually has Done just this year some Film that was in theaters, but it wasn't like a KGF or an RRR right right and he was saying that the next two years You're gonna see almost nothing going to theaters outside of big-budget stuff. That's just I hope that's not the case Nobody's putting money behind anything Understandably big budgets right now. Understandably because that's where the Indian audience is That's where the international audience is right now. It's like go big or go home It's just unfortunate because you want these small creators Say small creators though the ones that just don't have the funding that the other ones have right to be seen And for them to keep making their art because right this is art and and thankfully And it did well in the box office. It wasn't just a Awards conversation, but a film like Koda. Yeah, which was a tiny film. It's Sony's first Oscar-winning thing and It was loved and beloved and won multiple Oscars including Best Picture that bodes very well and I'm I know it's always been this way that people like us who love cinema and Who's heart beats for this kind of film as the core and foundation of all movie-going experiences? I believe there will always be an audience for this no matter what I just pray that that audience remains in theaters not just going to OTT so go support it It's absolutely deserving of a watch It's it's I don't want to say an easy watch. It's a tough. It's it's it's tough subject That that they're dealing with here. It really is but it's an engaging story and and it's directed and written very very very very Yeah, I got a ton. I got a ton of notes a lot of them I can I can go without a spoiling stuff. Who do you want? Do you want to start with? Let's start obviously as we always do Let's start with her Sigh, is that I don't know the actual correct pronunciation of her name? I don't know if it's sigh or sigh or Third way that I would like to know because it's not not our first time seeing her work No, we saw her pretty I don't even remember who she was in that film actually I'm gonna be wasn't she the lead Was she I thought she was yeah, I just don't I don't recall. Yeah In pretty pretty mom. Yeah pretty mom which is translated to love. Yeah, the butterfly movie money on a butterfly film But so we'd seen her there, and then I think the other thing more recently we saw her in was that epic Trailer that was extremely violent where you know, she kept stabbing. Yes. Yes. We never actually we missed that one Yeah, we loved. Yeah, well, she's just looks like this is like a an actress who Really cares about not stardom, but more I Maybe I'm wrong and we're just getting kind of really introduced to her. Yeah, but man is she up there already? Yeah, I think some of the greats in that are currently acting for actresses. Yes, I'm automatically like This is an Oscar-worthy performance that she put on here I agree. She carries this film the last film that we've seen where an actress just was The the iron rod supporting the whole thing was I I'll forget the title But it's the one we just saw with taboo that where she was much younger and she played the dancer Oh, uh, chan chan chan chan Janini bar. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, that that that is I agree. I Your egos flying out you'll find your egos here upstaging everybody Take it take it take it easy pal your sequels coming But We say this about great actors and this is to me the highest compliment you can give to anybody People could do it different, but they're not gonna do it better No, and I don't know that I would want to see a different interpretation of this role No, I I think she does I can't imagine They being the director and writer and producers and everybody aren't absolutely thrilled with her performance because she is this character And if they I don't want them to but like it let's say I put it in the category of actresses that we already love Like if they did in Hindi look once I'm again, I'm not saying I want them to I don't know No, just you go watch it. Don't touch it. Don't touch it. It doesn't need to be redone I would do it like for actresses like the look Thama Rasa Rodica all those actresses who are at the top of the game that we love Yep, she's right there now. Yeah, and I want to see a lot more of her work Yeah, I think she's she's absolutely brilliant carry the film the emotional availability She carried throughout the film was incredible and I would really love if if those who Watched the channel and predominantly enjoy watching Hindi cinema Would see this and not hope and wait for a Hindi remake. No, because this deserves to be given the attention Both in the dollars to support it so more films are made like it, but you ought to see it Mm-hmm. It's it's an important story with an important message So it has that rare combination of being both Elevative in its artistic merits, but it also is there in terms of you walk away With being Reminded of some things and also being reawakened about some stuff or awakened for the first time about the way things are And I feel like it's very much a regional You could translate this to somewhere else and change it, but I like that it is Set where it is in the language and the culture and the people I think that's Important and it ought not be changed. Yeah, it should be supported as it is And the other actor that I thought and they all did really really everybody was great Kali Come on. I really enjoyed his performance. I I wrote I wrote this down He had such a sweet demeanor about himself. I wrote this down about everyone and It was at a point with him Halfway through the film. I wrote down everyone is wonderfully ordinary Just ordinary people no one's performing no one's Everybody's just Like a fly on the wall I'm gonna have to everybody is wonderfully ordinary. Yeah. Yeah, he did so well And I don't know if he actually has a stammer. Yeah, but it was it was a if he if it's not a stammer I thought he did a really good job of doing a convincing very convincing moments at that and he brought such a Innocence of sweetness to this horrific situation Yeah, like in like in the courtroom scene, which were great. They the guy PP I think yeah, the guy great job, but then the judge as well love judge. I feel like we'd seen her before I wonder I feel like we had to I don't know where but I loved both the character the way it was written Mm-hmm, and the in the interpretation of the character very believable great writing throughout Really really enjoyed all those and then obviously everybody else did really well as well, but like it's the dad It was his name the the victims dad victims dad. Yes he had some Magical Moments I thought and that's a that's a tough role because yeah, you gotta put it in an awful place You do and you have to be You have to be careful about and this this I think this comes from the person you cast because You can go too far with your sense of pain and hurt and anger and vengeance and become the antagonist Mm-hmm, and he that's you get scared and You understand it's like Why shouldn't he be that angry? Yeah, why shouldn't he be that on the edge? Yeah, you know, but he easily could have he could have either been cliche Mm-hmm. He could have not been connected to his emotions And you'd seen him doing the fake wipe a tear away when he's really not feeling it And that's I believed every moment. He was on on screen. It's a hats off to the direct guy Gotham Gotham, I assume that's because everyone was like that include like the the the main police officer Yeah, I thought did a I did a great job on his he's a really interesting look I was really captivated when he was on screen So shout out to the that actor as well He had a he had a he had a uniqueness to him that is carried by like a KK men and yeah kind of uniqueness Yeah, absolutely He had something going on behind his eyes and right and nobody was playing a villain in this Even though well, I guess that outside of the the four Rape it but they they were perpetrators believe it really in the story that much No, because they're not this this this film is so loaded with symbolism Which we can get into in a second in the spoilers section But I loved the fact that the Antagonist is really the situation. Mm-hmm. I also loved thank you. Thank you. Thank you for your magnificent screenwriting All exposition was shown There wasn't any any time there were a few moments where exposition was given in the text But it was justified There was a reason for the person saying it other than just we're gonna inform the audience right now It was intelligent screenwriting. Yeah And they I feel like he took his time Yep, even though I felt like this went pretty fast great pacing for a two-hour for 14 minute film or something Yeah, it had while I think it's probably and this was a long time ago. I Think it probably has the same Feeling as court, but it had a quicker clip to it in the pacing. Yeah, yeah, there was Court was just like I'm gonna I'm not I'm gonna show you nothing. I'm gonna watch you Yeah, we're gonna watch paint dry but it's it's a beautiful beautiful thing nothing wrong with court But it's different. It's a very different thing and I think because of that This would probably be a bit more engaging for people that this isn't their cup of tea and as far as genre is concerned Yeah, I think the fact that they kept it going at a really good clip throughout kept everything moving forward Kept it suspenseful kept you wondering and everybody is so believable and engaging That it just it it it has a uniformity to its pacing from start to finish I don't feel like it ever lagged or it ever tried to get beyond itself. I mean a composer is Govind Vasanza right beautiful. I love the score. There was only beautiful It was my biggest gripe with the film and there was just one moment It was right before the interval. There was a musical montage that I just didn't feel fit Like it almost went okay I get it. Yeah, I get it song kind of thing for this that one it was like to conclude the first first half kind of thing Yeah, I get it. Yeah, I was like I just don't feel like this is that kind of film that you should put that it just I understand that as good as the rest I did not thought it was it didn't ruin the film love the film Go see the film. It's amazing and it didn't that didn't bother me, but I can see how It's actually the same way it's very different because it was very different song But like in Satya when when Vishal's yeah in his song that he put on for the bar song, right? It's like this just doesn't feel like that kind of film. I didn't be yeah, I Get the comparison. Yeah, but the overall background score It was a lot of like cello violin beautiful really gorgeous so much so much Connectivity in the musical choices to the emotion of what was going on on screen and what was being Mostly the times that stuff was shown because there's a lot of moments where you don't have any sound but score and It's beautiful and the choice of instrumentation or lack thereof It's I had this thought throughout That it was very clear that this writer director loves film and loves making film and this composer loves scoring because You don't you don't get this quality of film and score Unless the artists doing it love what they're doing. He also composed 96. Oh, wow Not a surprise. It's a great score and yet this this is a standout like If this was a film that I was screening for SAG Awards or Score doesn't work for SAG Awards. Well, let's say that we were Making our picks for what we wanted to see nominated. Mm-hmm. This would be one of those films I would be the little the little engine that could it would be one of those films I'm like I hope the Academy doesn't forget this film because it needs multiple nominations and score would be one of them director Would be one of our actress would be one of them Actor the supporting actor the dad. Yeah, it wouldn't even surprise me It wouldn't even surprise me if her dad got a I thought he was perfect her dad Oh, yeah, I thought his face everything about him was exactly like You wanted you wanted well, I didn't want to give anything away. I exactly we'll get into that in the spoilers But yeah, let's get into spoilers now. If you haven't seen the film just go please go watch this movie in theaters If it's available around you it was not for us sadly here And so maybe that's the case for a lot of people I don't know because I don't know how big the distribution for a small film like this was yeah That's it's expensive to do that. And so you understand why it's not why they distributed right? It's just sad So if you can go watch it, please go watch it Don't wait for OTT go support it because then they'll make more films like this correct and not and release them in theaters Not just the KGF is in which is the great and it's wonderful We're not anything bad about those but we also we don't just want those in theaters We want correct all good cinema, which was really encouraging here on the state side Elvis was the first non superhero movie or action film to pass a hundred million dollars in I don't know how long So that's an encouraging sign for box office. No, why? rise of grew Well, those don't count Those always make money all Disney Pixar films always make you know the that the Franchise is the highest-grouching animated franchise of all I heard that with this release But that was before this release that oh really it was I didn't know that I thought this was the most did that it was it's funny, but anyway anyways, but yeah Okay, so spoiler time now. Did you see it coming? Yeah, it's anyway if you ever watch it we're gonna get into spoils like big this is big spoil What he just asked me as a massive spoiler do not watch if you have not seen this film. Thank you Thank you No, no really. Yeah, you probably I was questioning it the entire time. Yeah, of course you were I mean, that's kind of normal for me because like if somebody says no he didn't do it. I'm like, but what if he did? He's probably lying right I was actually but throughout I was hoping he wasn't me too And I really didn't think he was because they did a lovely trick by ending the film before they ended the film So I thought yeah, this is what I think it is. I'm taking it at face value but I was I I where I was at the time I had it on My laptop and I had gone TMI I had gone to the bathroom with the laptop and I was watching it and I told Andrani I had just 10 minutes left to watch the film and I walked and I stopped in the doorway and I just stood there and I went oh Wow There's a twist and I just finished watching it right there standing in the doorway going Wow Because I I did not expect the twist at the very very end And I I Liked it. Do you like to stay blissfully ignorant? I love Yes, I mean I would too. It's just I'm too big of a skeptic and a cynic Yeah, no, I'm too big of an optimist and so because I am an optimist. That is the opposite of I am always Believing in hoping for the best in people. So when they deceive me, I expect I'm betrayed I expect the worst exactly which is which is why you tend to not be surprised When the evil comes out at the end and I tend to know I did like I said I was rooting for him to not right and I but I thought the actor did a phenomenal job He was one of great casting because you he just looks like somebody you want to root for he looks like a sweet old man Beautiful sweet face looks that is the last guy you would expect to do anything and then obviously she did a really good job And and the relationship was beautiful and the scenes that needed to be their best were so like The build-up to when she finally goes to visit him in prison. Mm-hmm in the back of my and I went Okay, let's see what you got here because this is this is a critical scene. How are we gonna do this? Yeah? Yeah, I thought it was amazing. I loved I Love that she couldn't look at him. Mm-hmm, and I loved her emotion when she was there little doubt. Yep, and The I thought he was absolutely believable He's trying to get the information, but he's also being sensitive to the situation that they're both in it's a really I Mean this is not like the first rape film obviously. There's there's there's a ton of them right ton It's but this is like deli crime as a series based on gang rape This is an interesting take because it's basically there's a new message. It was like You have to do what's right Even if it's not good for you absolutely the ones you love There is a right here. There is right and wrong. Yeah, and even if the person you love. Yes, the wrong Yes, you need to do what is right. Yes, and so it's a really I'm gonna say a great message But the one that a lot of people I feel like a lot of people wouldn't listen to Yeah, because no, they would be like That's my dad right, which is the wrong wrong thing to do whoever. Yeah fill in the blank. Yeah, and so it's Even though you'd think that everyone should be on the same page for like Yeah, even if it is my dad Should be punished for what he did and how accountable for the evil right that he decided to take part in correct And face the consequences for it. Yes. Yeah, and so I That I like that aspect a lot. Yeah, I think that that's one of the overall messages. Yeah of the film Yeah, as opposed to interviews being a random person that she didn't know or he was correct or whatever It took the hard route. Yeah. Yeah, it really elevates it raises the stakes And that's one of the most important things in storytelling is What is it in this situation that you can do especially if you're writing? What is it you can do to raise the stakes? To to make a sense of urgency eminent and danger eminent and have it be justified It's one of the reasons I remember when I was writing barbarian. I had first put it just as a basic one-person show in and and there wasn't any sense of urgency and I went There's something that's missing and one of the things that was missing was the sense of danger and stakes being raised And that's where I placed it In the frickin dungeon the very night before execution you've raised the stakes when you do that so making it a dad Raises the stakes and complicates the moral conundrum. Yeah some of the things I wrote just on a technical side was that and that was one of it wasn't a really long one, but it was one of the best continual shots in an in a Unknown action sequence when he's being escorted out. Oh, yeah and They first arrive and they come up and then a girl's talking to a reporter and then they go to somebody else and then they come And then it gets to someone's back and then it comes around and then she's walking down the street Yeah, that was a really nice continual shot. Yeah, I agree The rape sequence was magnificently shot. Yeah tough watch man And obviously it was tastefully done for for this sub it was hitch cocky in and that it left more of the imagination Obviously, no one ever wants to really see no rape scene. It's that's one of the some some to obviously sex scenes It's it's sometimes it's needed to show that on screen This is just that's just something that's ridiculously hard to especially with it being a child You know exactly you don't actually want to show anything. That's it's very hard It's a very difficult thing to do tests if you actually show something like that with a child, right? So I thought the way he decided to shoot it was very tasteful very tasteful and still hard conveyed The horrificness. Yep, you don't need to see a lot as to know how horrific exactly what is going on is as was the intentionality with which her testimony moment Has trembling hands and feet and she's obviously reliving the trauma because we get a quick flashback of the trembling hand As she's being raped and her hands are trembling while she's standing in the court Just impeccable direction. Yeah spectacular direction. There were some things in the writing too. This line destroyed me When the dad says she doesn't look at me as her father anymore. She looks at me as a man. Yeah, what a line What a frickin line and and what makes that line is not just how great it is on page he delivered it with The reality of the emotion of what a father would feel in that moment of This is this is what happened to my daughter and that moment when he also said she was I know She was wondering. Where's my superhero? Where's my dad? My dad's gonna save me and you see that in in his character, but just magnificent the the thing I probably love the most in the direction and Possibly about the film is the symbolism of liquid throughout the whole thing So at the very beginning you see so remember what in the rape scene? There's the blood. Yeah, but we also see Water we see ink. We see stuff going down drains And I wrote early on and catch them liquids can be reflectively revealing or darkly concealing They're parts of life-begetting elements and they're parts of death dealing elements and then later on I wrote The last one of the last images we see is another liquid And it's her tear running down her cheek And then it ends with a final flowing liquid in the face of the victim and I loved that the victim remained faceless throughout and I It obviously Begets because this is very much a movie Not just about the situation but about women and the way Women and children and children girls, especially little girls have a much more difficult time In in the world and that obviously that is representative of a woman's menstrual cycle and the moment that that happens she has looked upon completely different By the world in this poor little girl the first time she ever had any kind of a flow wasn't by natural design. It was by gang frickin rape It's just in it's just pretty much impeccably good. Yeah Cinema, yeah, I totally agree and I'm so happy we actually got to see it So thank you once again to the yes, and thank you for making such a good for the director and obviously production for for allowing us to Be sent a screener. Yeah, and trusting us with that. Yeah. Thank you because we we always Want to be able to see good cinema and support good cinema and tell other people to go see good cinema because yes I feel like that's the core of OSR are people that love cinema Yep, there's other things of being stupid being silly being obviously loving big RRR Yeah, and loving Indian culture and but now the kind of stuff But I feel like at the core that we've always been as we loved really good cinema Well, it's how why we started yeah It started from our love of talking about film and being actors and the fights we'd have ever every Oscar Ceremony and obviously I I never expect these little films that we get to see hella row this Yeah, this is in that category to get views. Yeah, I just want to just the little people that will care I want to be able to share it and support it and all that kind of stuff And even if for some reason somebody doesn't support it in theaters At least When it's available to be watched on OTT Supported and let this get some legs and and at the very least give a good financial return to everybody involved Yeah, easily a top five Indian film of the year now agreed easily agreed I don't know what it's gonna kick out From what my current top five of the year that came out this year Was but it's easily in the top five just because of how good it was at all levels Yeah, it's it's a no it's an awards season film festival quality to the cinema for Oscars currently if you're going the artistic route It's either this or the last farmer. Those are the two that agreed. You'll send agreed if you're going popularity that I think you Could win a lot. It's the RRR. Yeah, very different reasons obviously that why you'd send that Because of the popularity that it has here But if you're going the traditional This is the best artistic film of the year it's gonna be this or it's gonna be the last farmer And and and of those I Would lean hard. Well, this one's a lot. This one has that message. Yeah, this is this would this would be for me when we're talking about The highest purposes of cinematic artistry. This is my favorite of the year so far. Hmm. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely Anyways, well, let us know what you thought about the film Which we are next time on the film and for her as well. Yeah, I want to see everything. She's not lobby Please let us know what her next film Next film of her talk about beard I actually really wanted to keep the most