 And today's the, hello and welcome to the digital free thought radio hour and WOZ radio one of three point nine LPF out here in Knoxville, Tennessee. We're recording this on Sunday morning, November 13, 2022. I'm Larry Rhodes or DJ doubter five. Oh, and as usual we have our co host one bed on the line with a cell one bet. Hey, I'm unverified on Twitter, but I'm still here. Our guests today are the john is the john Richards from over England. Welcome how the devil are you doing well with or without the devil. Digital free thought radio hours a talk radio show about atheism free thought rational thought humanism and sciences. And conversely we'll also talk about religions religious faith, God's holy books and superstition. And if you get the feeling that you're the only non believer in your town well I just bet you're not in Knoxville here in the middle of the Bible about we have a group of over 1000 of us. The atheist society of Knoxville, and we'll tell you more about them after the mid show break. What's our topic today, we're going to be talking about God and Twitter accounts, because, you know, I think they're becoming one and the same thing. It would be an interesting concept but before we jump into it. How about we just do a quick little touch on how everyone's been since the last time we've spoken to each other. John Richard is going to throw it out to you I hope you've been well. What's going on with you. I have been well thank you very much, and I've been doing my usual YouTube being and stuff we had a meeting this morning for the atheism UK because we've got an event coming off with Professor AC grailing. So you may have heard of his printed about 24 books published about 24 books on theism and philosophy, and the God, the God proposition is one of them so long copies, but he's coming to speak to us in London on 29. I did a promotion for that this morning. And of course during that recording, the band went past because we have remembrance Sunday, and parade goes right past this house. So that was in the background of my recording. Okay, lovely, lovely. You can't pay for that kind of. Yeah, both tourists in that place that'd be like an awesome time to go outside and like watch them. Yeah, when we did, we were on the way back. They spend about half an hour at the church, and then they come marching back and that's when we open the front door and go up to them. Okay, and I'm just going to ask for some context your remembrance what is that a holiday is that a particular thing. What's going on with that. To commemorate the first and second world wars and subsequent wars that have happened since they finished. Okay, like our bed. It's like our Mr. Stay. Okay, which is which is actually on the 11th because of course the war wrapped up the first war wrapped up on the 11th at the 11th hour on the 11th day of the 11th month. And that's why that time is celebrated with a two minutes period of silence in the country. So, we've always had not always but for some time. We've also had an event on the nearest Sunday, which is called remembrance Sunday because we recognize that that's when people can actually get out and put wreaths against cenotaphs and, you know, go and do a bit of praying to for no more war. Yeah, that works. It's a good day. I mean, that's a good way to get everybody on the same page with regard to peace. I like it. I like it. Larry. Yeah, how you been. I'm doing well, except that we've we had a COVID in the house last couple of weeks. It's not the second time. Yeah, well, Mickey got it after Sheila did. So, luckily, I didn't get it or and, you know, worked out pretty well for me, but we self isolated and the symptoms they got weren't really bad except some coughs and congestion. But that's no fun. But we're all well vaccinated and vaccinated and well boosted. So it wasn't very bad. Yeah, I would say now is now and always be now always be the most up to date moment is the best time to get COVID. Because before when anyone no one was getting vaccinated we didn't have any vaccines. We didn't have the PPE supplies people are hoarding left and right no one was being very considerate. We had a very precise washing your hands to get rid of germs. Like it was the and we didn't have a president that hadn't necessarily a plan for us to move forward with that. We had a bad situation and getting sick in that time period was a really big deal because we're just putting additional stress on the hospital sector and so on. But now, like we've we come up with a plan we have vaccinated I'm on my sixth one already. We have PPE and supply. We have health care that are being supported health care workers that are being supported. And now like, oh you got COVID. Well, you know, you can you can go to a clinic there's plenty of space there. It's sanitize like you can get your conditions you can get your treatment you can go home you can rest it out. You, we all have this great thing and I think one of the best thing that came out of COVID was the remote work from home schedules that we have a lot more people I've noted are having the option to work from home. Instead of having to commute to work every day and I can't tell you how cool it is to just like have one scheduled day, where I don't have to think about getting dressed, going out and sitting in front of a desk doing what I couldn't be doing in front of my computer at home. And like, and and sort of like managing my own time on a more familiar basis, just being in my own digs is a lot better. So yeah, I'm happy for you. I'm glad you I know you'll come through it, and I hope wish the best for your family for sure. Thank you. Guys, I have one last update. I have course played in a disc golf tournament on Veterans Day. We drove out with seven other guys, all skilled players, some of them including the people who taught me how to play for the first time, first time ever throwing the disc. It was those guys who was so it's basically a bunch of firemen. They have Veterans Day off. And they're like, Hey, Ty, do you want to come with us? It's going to be a tournament up in this town called Dixon. I went out there with them. And it was just a bunch of really cool dudes. We all threw discs. As you guys know, I only throw putters I only feel like more or less to this. And my strategy is just placement and landing in no trouble zones, and then making par. And if I get the opportunity to make a birdie, I'll take it. But otherwise I'm playing safe. I'm not trying to show up anybody or or get myself into trouble. Well, what usually wins those tournaments under or par. Being under being under typically wins. But this time I won. And I was very happy about that. I tied with first place. And the way how I would create my credit to is just being very, very careful with my placements on a brand new course brand new territory. Just saying, Hey, I want to land within 10 feet of here, 10 feet of air and then I can put for par. If I if I make it a little bit better, I'll go for birdie, but I'll just play safe and stay conservative throughout the entire time. And that's strategy one out for me. Sometimes if you can play for part, that's good enough for you. And I was lucky to get through that. All right. Well, it hasn't reached this country and I don't know of anywhere that you can play disco here, but we're going to get it because everything you have we get later whether it's good or bad. We even had we even had our version of Trump. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's really popular in Sweden. So I can imagine I'll trickle down faster from there than it would be across the pond, but we'll see we'll see definitely we just need some great British players that's it. Hey guys, I want to get into the meat and potatoes of today's show. This is talking about Twitter. It's been in the news if you have any sort of feeds that feed into social media. And I'm trying not to get into this because I'm not too well versed in the world of social media anyway that's what all these grow your hairs are for. We need the younger audience in here. But basically a guy named Elon Musk bought Twitter, change some of the standards that they have there and now a bunch of parody accounts that didn't have that little blue coveted check mark and now do have it. But the only problem is is a lot of the parody accounts are representing religious figures, military officials, politicians, brands, and which verified, all of which are verified so that there's a fake Nike account. There's a fake Nintendo account. There's a fake Super Mario account. There's a fake Rudolph Giuliani account who's like a guy who's like a politician in the US, but there's also fake gods. Of course, there's fake gods, right? So that'll be, that'll be a fake God of the fake God. Well, you know, two negatives cancel out to a positive. So now we have a true reliable testable feedback from a reported profit. So we have a Mohammed Twitter account. There's a Jesus Twitter account. There's a guy Twitter account. There's a fake blue check mark next to him. And I, I can't imagine how awesome that is, because it starts a really great conversation where Christians are very upset. And it's like, how dare you, especially Muslims is one of all that stuff. How dare you misrepresent my faith through this parody account with that little blue check mark, take that check mark off. And in my head, it's like, I see it in, yes, I get it that it's offensive, right? Because you're being misrepresented. But also, you live in a universe where that was possible, you think your God would not want that to happen if that God existed. And two, why doesn't your God just make his own account or their own account? Because that would be a very, very good way to bolster definitively that that God exists. And so he could constantly tell us stuff that we don't know. The greatest minds on earth don't know and you can fill in the gaps. How much time do we spend praying when we could just be tweeting and think of this. I'm doing this. Please bless my food. It's like God, could you bless my food for us so we got it replied. You know, hey, what's up? A little heart symbol next to it. I made the point for the show that now that Jesus and God have a little verified check mark, there's some evidence. You know, we're always asking for evidence. But this is also a good way to demonstrate that there are good evidence and there's bad evidence. Correct. This is not good evidence. John, get it. Well, I'm wondering who's sponsoring God because of course he never has any money of himself of his own. Does he? So, and it's $8 a month for verification. You can buy. I didn't know that. I didn't know that I didn't know it was eight bucks a month. Oh, I'm a social media freak. So I keep up with these ones. You're going to be relying on you through this whole show. And the thing is that there are a lot of people in particularly in your country, $8 a month isn't a lot. So they can afford to buy any innumerable accounts, which is exactly what Elon Musk doesn't want. He wanted to make sure that everybody only had one identified account, verified account. But in fact, what he's made is it cheaply available to have multiple accounts. Wow. Okay, so I do. I still don't see the bad side on just having God be on Twitter. Here's my here's my number one point. We saw that nasty atheist problem. You know, Christians don't like atheists, God's don't like atheists, atheists are ambivalent on the concept. It's just a position on a singular question. We'd be happy to ditch it as well. But if you came out with a guy that had a, you know, we we shut down all the servers and this account is still tweeting. We turned off all the electricity. It's still updating. Like this is clearly supernatural. I don't know what this thing is and it's speaking to us as predicting things from the future. Maybe it's a technology. Maybe it's an algorithm. No, it's explaining it to us. It's like, oh, it's just God. Sorry. Sorry, we'll plug you back in. My, he said, yes, I don't bother. He was like, guys, it's not a problem. If you want me to, I'll tweet this in the clouds, too. It's like, this is not, this is not a hard thing for me to do. I'm just doing, I'm tweeting on computers for your benefit. I'm like, okay, well, you know what, I'm willing to believe that this thing is beyond what we would naturally consider what the rule set was. So that would be the first supernatural thing I believe in. And if that thing wants to identify as a God, I'd be like, okay, it's the closest thing we got. Maybe I'm not an atheist anymore. I'm not worshiping that yet, but I can believe that's a God. I have better evidence to believe that. What do you think, Larry? Well, I think that even if it does it, it does it and says he's a God, you know, that he knows all this stuff. It doesn't mean it's any particular God. Right. Of course, everybody, we jump to the conclusion. It's my God. It's our God. It's religion's God. See, we told you when, when there's no proof for it. Right. No evidence for it. No reason to make that leap. I'll put it that way. Go on, John Richards. Well, if there is a real God with a Twitter account, why does need to delete all the fake God Twitter accounts? Maybe that could be the next step is just like, Hey, listen, I'm the number one God. And let's just say it's the Christian God just for the sake of the show. And it's like, I'm this version of the Christian God. This is the one I am. Would you guys like me to delete all the other parody accounts? I mean, I'm fine with the free speech thing. I'm totally cool with it, but I'm not here to make too many waves. I'm just letting you know. Here's your point of contact with me moving forward. You can put down the book. I like technology of certain generations. I think books are a little outdated. We're just going to stick to the Twitter thing from moving on like that works. Think about it like this. Here's my point. When the whole the Bible was written, people hold that up as like a book from God, but that a book in the Mesopotamian area was like a big deal. This guy has a thing with words on it that he can read and explain what the writer said. That's technology that a lot of people didn't understand. They didn't understand what reading was. That's huge. Why are we still using that outdated technology now you can't verify who wrote a book. You can lie in a book. You can be any sort of Charlton and just pretend you know the text in the book or miss quote things or turn to certain pages for your benefit. What if you had a verified account that was like following the terms of service. That timestamped like that's amazing. I was talking about having a book and being able to read it and people going wow. Smith, a guy who started out of the Mormon, a religion used to carry around a tablet of higher. Egyptian writing and say that he knew what it was and that only he could read it and all that. And when you would tell his audience whatever he wanted them to hear based on that tablet. Yeah, you put it in a hat and you put his face in the well no it was this was different than the golden plates. Oh okay okay straight up hieroglyphics because nobody ever saw the golden plates. Oh my gosh, but he would carry this tablet around with and show it to people and and read it for them. Yeah, the weird thing is people can actually read hieroglyphics like I wouldn't I would be remiss to see if he could do that trick in front of actual experts. I know he's dead, but like in front of actual people like this eyeball means cat it's like no there's no symbol for cat it's cat is. What are you doing. John Richards again any thoughts on this, the idea that if you had a Twitter account for my God. Like, not only would you, I hopefully not be an atheist anymore, or would you still be an atheist would you still be doing your presidential or your your former presidential duties your shows. If there was a confirmed God, and he had a Twitter account would you, or would you retire what would, what would happen with you. Okay, I would want some, believe it or not verification. Beyond the blue check mark. Yes, and like to know how they verify. He says he wants a different color check mark he wants the green and the golden one what. The reason that he's come up to date because you're right. Writing was an enormous breakthrough it enabled us to capture thoughts in other people's heads, which, you know, weren't weren't fleeting like speech. Right, so we, and that meant we could transcend time we could find out what did people thought in their heads. And of course there was disks, you know the original 78s, and then there was smaller dissed and then there was tape recorders and then there was CDs and then there was the, the plug in thingy, you know, the little. Okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. And so now he's really come up to date, and he's on the cloud I love it. Right. But I want him to prove to me that he really is him. Okay, okay, I understand. It's going to be as a skeptical minded person. It's always healthy to ask these questions. I would still have a lot of work ahead of himself themselves based on one means of communication. How about this, Larry I'd love to get your point of view on this what if he just started answering some prophecies or just making prophecies that are immediate for accurate and repeatable and testable. Yeah, I think it may properties about tomorrow. I mean, we verify that tomorrow. Watch out for this plane crashing watch out for this person who died at this second watch out choking on this. This is the temperature this month is about to happen make sure you have this much sandbag. I would think that natural natural disasters would be better than anything else. Just be told us about a plane crash we would have to then go after the account to see how he knew that plane was going to crash and how culpable he wasn't in the problem. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The natural disasters would be great. Yeah. If he was just a natural disaster avoidance call line. Or even an anthropogenic disaster. It will be very good to hear when we're going to solve the problem of climate change for example, yeah, yeah, or how to. Yeah, you're some lectures you look listen to connect the dots. I won't do it for you but if you listen to these three guys, and you put them together, you're going to figure it out. I, these are three hints, they're the three best hints. How about this, it's not immediately that you would think, oh it's a God and it is that God, but if that God or that Twitter user was benevolent. They could find a way to be very useful very helpful and very helpful to the point where whether or not we want to use the label God, they're still in our best entrance. Interest to listen to or read the tweets and follow and be like hey you know what, I don't understand the whole God thing I don't have a, I have to have a skeptical mindset and I don't think a Twitter account is enough for me to believe in the supernatural. However, you are doing a very good useful job and no one can find you so like that's fine but what you're saying is very very helpful and people are listening to it so keep doing what you're doing I think that could be a good use. We don't need the ego, you don't have to worship, you could just be saying nice things that could help us be better and kinder to each other and the world. What do you think they're. Well, even, even then though I mean we would have to face the possibility that it's not a God it's a very advanced alien civilization that is using its advanced technology and you know abilities to be able to convince us that we're God. I've always thought that if an alien civilization read as well and been watching us for 100 years or whatever. The best way that they could, they could invade us and take over is to show up on a cloud, dressed as Jesus, you know, half the world would capitulate immediately. You know, it just, it depends on, you know, the, you know what you, the interpretation of what's happening, I mean you can go directly to God and say oh it's God, or you can search a little farther and find out what's actually causing this site to say the things that it's doing or, or, you know, the main thing, the main point I'm trying to say is, if you see something that's unexplained and can't explain it. Sure. That's all it is it's something that's unexplainable. I love that period. I love it. You know, there is the verified God account now it's called the tweet of God, who says there is life and outer space and it's intelligent and that's why it's staying far away from you. So like what you're saying about the intelligent life just communicating with us. That could still be a possibility. My only, my only, my major big hang up would be the ego associated with being a God who wants to be worshipped. Right. Because if this God doesn't care about worship and was truly just in our best interest. There could be a way to format the tweets so that we're interested in what that's being said. We see the value and paying attention to it. There's a great utility and following the directions that are provided and there's no turnaround of now 10% of your paycheck please or and bring your kids to Bible study please or now worship me with your soul. Give that to me now. And if you do anything else, we're going to punish you. There's such a lack of that in the Bible. Yet, even in this hypothetical situation we can come up with this would be a really great format for God to do this communication with the followers make it direct get rid of atheists, immediately see how we should be behaving with each other following the most relevant technology that's accessible to a lot of people how because not everybody can read and not everybody who has the Bible has read the Bible and majority of them are Christians. So, why don't just make it a Twitter account. Just quick little tweets everyone can see that Larry what do you think. Oh, you're on mute my friend. Sorry. Especially Catholics. What I'm saying about Catholics is the church doesn't want you to read the Bible they'll read the Bible and tell you what it says, tell you what it means. Correct. So there's a whole the largest Christian denomination on the planet doesn't want you to read the Bible. It's weird. I mean when Bible first came out is in and publicly accessible print and books because the Gutenberg. Right. They did not want you to have that book and they made it illegal. Right. And you know it'd be, it'd be really for skeptics, it'd be really tough pill to swallow still, because how who could say it wasn't just a very clever hacker group, or built a trillionaire or a time traveler who's figured out how to send tweets into the past, you know, just like figure out a way to figure that out. All those steps, all of those bizarre circumstances are far more possible. Just being the fact that we're using, you know, elements and ingredients that already exist in reality, then jumping to a supernatural being who's outside that and opens up a realm of magical questions or potential answers. Being skeptical, totally worthwhile, totally valuable, totally respectable. And I would imagine that a God who just really did care about our best interests would still find a way to to have a positive impact with that account to begin with without worship behind it. What's up, John. Well, I've just thought there's obviously going to be a lot of commercial implications to this because if there is genuinely a God who we can communicate with maybe via Twitter, then obviously that's a better source of information than Google. Oh, or any church or any preacher. He's on this. It's not an answer day, like a God just had for 24 hours, I'll answer any question you want. You can just Google and they'll be like, well, tell me blah, blah, blah, blah, just immediately. Well, which religion is the right religion, you know, which preacher should I listen to, and you could eliminate all of the other ones. So this is going to put Google out of business. Then of course, we can ask him how to cure all diseases. So that'll put the medical profession out of business. Now here's the thing the medical profession. There might be some politics involved in this sure but you would still need people to administer the steps that God's providing you like if he says hey get vaccinated once a year you still need people to do vaccines you still need people to make vaccines you still need to give them technology to, you know, distribute them accurately and safely and like I don't think you'd get rid of doctors by knowing that cough medicine sometimes works right so you would still need checkups and all that stuff and maybe that's the instructions that he gives out but yeah I hear what you're saying like we could ask these hard hitting questions we can ask for a bunch of stuff. Oh, we are getting close to the bottom half hour what a great topic. Guys, how about we take a quick break and we'll come right back after this break Larry Oh, he's on he's on pause. There we go. Well I hit the button and didn't go away. Stay tuned for the second half of the digital free thought radio hour here on w ozio radio 103.9 LP FM here in Knoxville, Tennessee, and we'll be right back after this short break. Welcome back to the second half of the digital free thought radio hour. I'm doubter five were on w ozio radio 103.9 LP FM here in Knoxville, Tennessee. Let's just take a moment to talk about the atheist society of Knoxville. ASK was founded in 2002 we're in our 20th year, and we have over 1000 members. We have weekly in person meetings every Tuesday evening in Knoxville's old city at Barley's taproom in pizzeria. Look for us inside at the high top tables or for pretty weather outside on the deck. We also have a Tuesday evening zoom ask meeting that's ASK meet up on zooms. And you can join us there if you email us for details on how to connect with us. Send the emails to ask an atheist at Knoxville atheist org, or let's chat s e at gmail.com. You can also find us on Facebook meet up com or at our website Knoxville atheist.org. By the way, if you don't live in Knoxville, you can go to meet up. Do a search for an atheist group in your town. If you don't find one. Start one one bet where do you want to pick up. We have sky with us now welcome sky. Good morning, let me get my phone set up. Nice. Okay, well sky good that you can join the show today today we're talking about how much more simple or complicated would life be if God just had a Twitter account for the sake of argument. Let's just assume that when we discuss it in the beginning of the show while it's good to have a skeptical mindset let's just believe that we were able to confirm for a fact that this is God Christian God I know there's 30,000 different denominations but we'll just you know pick a standard non denominational one. So, yeah, that's God. Yes, it is the Christian God. I am real. I've already put a little disclaimer on all the fake gods. I'm the real one feel free to ask me anything I'll immediately reply instantaneously, because I already know what you're going to ask me. And hopefully the questions are satisfying to you. I'm free to continue the conversation it's not a one and done thing I want to have a relationship with you I want to answer this I want to help you guys get back on path, but this is the new Bible. We're not doing the books anymore we're doing this now. So everyone get on board with this. Alright, thank you very much. Anyone have any questions. Yeah, we can see this guy. What's up. Well, it's not. It's, I'm going to disagree with you time because the, the idea that we would still need to have medical people to follow God's instructions about having vaccinations in time and so on and so forth. I can't, I can't fathom that because of course, God is not only omniscient he not only knows everything, but he's also omnipotent so he can, he can do anything and and he's omnibileval and so what he wants to do is to help us. So all we've got to do is say to him, don't bother infecting us with this COVID bug, you know, stop it. You know, I'd be totally open to a guy who would respond to that question and even maybe make a poll and just be like, what do you guys want you're going to just get rid of all bacteria or whatever that can be harmful to human beings, but potentially useful for other things or anything like that. It's not like there's already 7 billion of you on the planet. No problem. I did tell you guys to propagate, but you want to take this out. We totally can. Here's a poll. And now you guys can choose whether I immediately get rid of all of them, and you never have to vaccinate again, or we keep the same system and you guys just try to, you know, handle it yourselves and maintain the science that you discovered. I like what Stephen Fry said in that interview with an Irish journalist some years ago, when he said if I could, he was invited to meet God and ask what he would say, and he would say, he would say, Children's cancer. Yeah, right, right, right. There's another problem in talking about getting rid of any bacteria that is potentially harmless harmful. Well, human cells means cancer are human cells that run rampant and can destroy us or kill us. And what, you know, can he would he get rid of all human cells that wouldn't work. Now, there is a weird thing too, because if we are talking to God, right, we're talking to a person who knows what happens to us after we die. And it is immediate. I'm sure someone's going to tweet this and ask him it's like hey what happens to us after he dies like you just hang out here you want you want some pictures and it's like pictures of people hang out in heaven you used to die including the kids with cancer just like it's way cooler up here, but you got to wait until you're dead. We haven't made enough seats yet. I know which makes it is not ready for a billion people to jump on here. So like, yeah, it sucks getting child cancer but look, they're they're here and they're okay. Sorry about the sorry about it that's my bad for the cancer thing but I have a question. Yeah, go for it, Scott. If God is omniscient, doesn't that make free will totally superfluous. Yeah, I think God would just be depends on how you define free will that's pretty loaded question. I think if he knew everything that was going to happen to anybody any decision that they were going to make. Then, at that point you couldn't make any other decision. So I agree with you that would put an end to the free will debate. Yeah, I think a lot of praying. Sure, you should be tweeting instead of praying. That's what God would be tweeting instead of praying. Stop praying start tweeting I can catch them way faster. Well, it's even worse than that if God knew everything and then he'd know what his decisions were going to be going forward, and he couldn't change them. So he wouldn't have any free will himself. So I know Bujo is not on the call but we typically have this conversation a lot of times about what do we mean when we say free will are we really talking about going from random elements to an actual meaningful choice or a choice, uninspired by any situation that you are in your environment, or is it a willful intent. Are we talking about intent of the action. Is it like if I'm being dragged out of a restaurant, and I'm being escorted out of restaurant or I'm asked to leave a restaurant or I just get up and walk away from the table, like are all those indications of free will or when I'm dragged out is that a violation my free will like is there a difference there. And some people have that meaning as their determination so I think as long as you are clear with your tweet and what you mean in context, and a God is willing to genuinely answer back. I prefer that system, better than the one that we got right now where it's just these questions that we bounce back and forth between meet bags on zoom. Like, I want, I want to get God to actually give me some meaningful feedback on this. And if anything open on Twitter, but just make sure it's like a well defined term that's all. I was like God when I'm say free will I mean this, and God's like, Oh, that yeah that doesn't exist. Yeah, I can totally control that loaded phrase I admit. Yeah. John you look uncomfortable. What isn't this amazing. Couldn't we have this. You sound like you would be more unhappy if we had God the Twitter account than otherwise and I think it's just as many YouTube shows. No, I'm very happy. I will argue with them now they're on Twitter. Well, I'm all for truth I mean if God exists I would rather that he revealed himself. Yes, I mean other than just be the champion of hide and go seek forever and leave us guessing. I think that's the root of it because we have in the Bible examples where God does reveal himself to people like informs a dove or the in the stories. Yeah, and in his holy book in his book like he does on multiple occasions, angels, his own son resurrections, miracles. He has no qualms of meeting people and being like hey by the way I'm God. See you later, burning bushes, etc. But now that we live in the age where cameras exist. You don't see God anymore. And I feel like that's very very telling for people who have a skeptical mindset of like, why does God disappear when we're able to better record things and capture even miracles. Right, like why does he go down the same rate as Bigfoot. I would actually believe that God used to be in the business of doing things that he doesn't do anymore. He's retired. Or someone who's perfect has changed their modus operandi in terms of how they interact with the world which means you can only become less perfect at that point. It's a confusing sentiment so that's why I'm so happy that we should have verified God Twitter account immediately get rid of all the other religions just be like it's just this one. Feel free to talk to me. Anyone can talk to me immediately. I'll respond back immediately. Feel free to stop praying just do this immediately. And now we have a direct line of communication to what at least one being now everyone hopefully can at least have the option be on one consistent page. You have the option you don't have to get rid of the religion that you have right now, but hopefully people prefer the one that's giving the prophecies that are accurate. The beneficial science explanations, the long outstanding conversations and about free will and the nature of human being and complexity of the universe, the parent complexity of the universe. And be like, you know what, if it's a time traveler if it's a guy in the future, if it's a wizard, I, I still am more inclined to at least be in this guy's side, because at least this guy's not asking me to give up my money. And apologize for being human. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a can of worms, you see, because he's always on both sides, isn't he on which one, which case on which case. Well, in World War two, we, the allies thought that God was on their side and the axis power so that God was on their side and not only was it just a God it was the Christian God. It's a messy situation. There's going to be a lot of disappointed people, I guarantee. So a question to ask a question to ask this real God who verified tick God is why has he created lots of different gods that are geographically based and instilled them in the populations who live there. Yeah, yeah, like it's going to suck. I think I think it would probably be good to just have candid answers from God. Wouldn't you agree and just be like, those aren't real ones. They're made by people. I had a opinion where it was best for me not to intervene. Clearly had it outside. I'm trying to clarify that now. That would be my next question. By the way, everyone that's dead is here with me now they're all cool. So like, just agree that that's not a problem. All right, sorry. Can you bring Abraham Lincoln to the mic, please. Or Darwin. What's up. Okay, go ahead, Doug, go on. So God, how do we tell a fake God from a real God? It was the criteria. Yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. And stuff like that. Go for it. Go for it. My former one that actually according to the epistles, no one is in heaven yet. We're all waiting for the resurrection. And Paul says that it will not be a bodily resurrection but a resurrection of the spirit. And God already has new perfect bodies for us waiting in heaven. Right, right, right. I got to repeat and just be like they were wrong. Here's video and some of them were hanging out. Boom. Next, next, next question. Sorry to Frank. John Richards had a point though. I want to tell about my former father in law, who was a Christian, a very devout man. And he was angry one time because there were lots of fake pastors who were fleecing people in various countries or all their money and obviously obviously weren't Christian because of course, Jesus wasn't keen on collecting money for himself. But I asked him, how do you tell a fake pastor from a real pastor? I didn't get an answer. He had no idea how to do that. How about this? God says, you know what, that's a great point. I'm going to just do this. I'm going to change humanity so that whenever you hear someone lie, you're just going to hear because I'm a gypsy girl. Like that one hit wonder instead just playing in the background ever so slightly whenever someone lies. They'll just hear that little jingle and you'll be like, ah, okay, okay. Thanks God. That makes it a lot easier for me. It's like, you're welcome. That's something that supernatural being could do. Could be like, well, thank you. And two, we can test it repeatedly over and over and over again. It's like, my name is Richard. My name is Michael. My name is Tyrone. It's like, oh, the jingle didn't go off that time. And now they have the criteria of knowing when they're being lied to and when they're not being lied to. And you can use that criteria to figure out the false gods from the true gods. Everyone's happy. Elon Musk, incorporate that into Twitter. Sorry, anything written. Yeah. If I already accounts can have that little jingle. Right. If we are talking about a supernatural being there could be potentially supernatural answers for a lot of the stuff they're asking for. And I think that only goes towards not only demonstrating the capability of that God, if it's in our best interest that he does it, or she does it, they do it. But also the capability of a being that should be beyond the rules of physics as we understand them. I think why not parlay into that? You like you, if you're a supernatural being in your inner interest and your omni benevolent, do those things and don't cause harm through your actions, but at least make the life a little bit better. And if we can come up with a better criteria from determining true things from false things almost intuitively with just like a cool little jingle, maybe what's something we can program ourselves. Man, that'd be really great. What's up, John Richardson says, what about the comments? We're gonna have like thought bubbles like in cartoons. Yeah. Yeah, a little little red little symbol on the side of the head that just shows up to the people you're being liar. He's like, yeah, I don't believe that. So, so I don't know what Elon Musk had in mind when he came up with the blue tick. But I think he was trying to make people's identity fit reality. And therefore, he was charging for ownership of the blue tick verification as he calls it, because once you put your card in, there's a good chance that they're going to have a lot of information about you. And like, for example, your address, because a lot of a lot of real genuine bank cards are linked to a bank account, not the store cards, but the proper cards are linked to a bank account, you know, Visa and Mastercard. Right. The way you live. Yep. So what I want to know is, where does God live? He's obviously coming up with this $8 a month. You know, I mean, even Betty Crocker has an email and address. And Betty Crocker never existed. Betty Crocker is a corporate fiction. I think what is God live is a valid question. It's a good question. It's a good question. What if the address was literally everywhere. How many times do I have to explain that? It's totally fine. My address is everywhere. Everywhere. All universes. I'm here. I'm here. My address is H E R E. Yeah, that's where the. If I want to write a letter to God, I don't actually have to put an address on it. Exactly. And if you don't have free will, he'd already know what you'd put on there. You'd get a, like an extra envelope in your address before you and picked it up. Just tweet, just tweet. It's right there. Larry, what's that? I mean, you could always, since God is everywhere, you can send him to the North Pole like Santa Claus. Exactly. No, I was thinking, we've all seen these videos where Trump is giving a speech and every time he tells a lie. You know, it's a thing, you know, in the background, we could just use the thing. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. That'd be such a great little upgrade for us. Just be like, oh, right. We should have a criteria. Good job. I would prefer a klaxon, you know. That would get old, I think. And a tune would get stuck in your mind. Yeah, John. Well, while we're talking about Betty Crocker, I want to know, does God do cake mix? And if not, why not? Isn't that Betty Crocker? Doesn't she have a company that makes cake mixes? Yes. Yes. Absolutely. No, it was good enough for her. Why can't God do it? John, I am trying to understand. Would God take speed better than Betty Crocker? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, imagine his devil. Angel food. I think the devil suitcase would be pretty good, too. Like it at least be more accurate. But John, would you be happy with that as a criteria upload by Supernatural God? Is this like, I'm just going to modify it so we intuitively understand when we're being lied to. Sorry about the confusion for not having it before. Everyone who suffered from that is in heaven. Or if they died there in heaven now, anyone who's still suffering, I turned off that suffering. I fixed it. I apologize. I hope everything is good. Would you be happy with that? I'd love that. Yes. As long as it doesn't involve surgery to insert a chip into my brain. Not my thing that you're done. I'm not even asking you to worship me afterwards. But listen, I do have that eight bucks a month thing. So like if you as a seven billion people around the world, if you can help me out with that, I'd be totally happy because I can't. It's weird how money works and I don't want to overpay anything. But like, if you can donate that, it's weird. It's really fine. I got it. How prayer works. Plenty of places for $8 is a month's salary. That's true. But I mean, apparently the preacher wants you to pray if your finances doesn't work, but they, they always go to you for money instead of praying for it themselves. Right. Right. Prayer work. They just pray for it. Yeah, I was a little surprised to find out that you have to pay for the boot check mark that kind of ruins the appeal for it. Right. That's such a low, it's a low amount for certain people, so low. And then for other people, it's make or break the whole world. You know, exciting. There's been a lot of, been a lot of comment along those lines because it's a two tier system. The rich, the rich can have verification. The poor can't like the legal system. It's a bad stratification of things. Typically whenever there's a guarantee. I don't know. What about Bitcoin? Does God take that? Oh, wow. So or PayPal or Venmo. How about this? I want to do a quick round table. Just get an impression of what kind of questions you would ask the true God through his verified Twitter account. What would you ask? And it's not, it's not a quick, easy answer for a lot of the questions that we do have questions for. For example, the question I probably asked is like, why is there so much apparent complexity in the universe? You know, we spent 18 years in school just trying to understand some of the basic fundamentals of how reality works. Can't couldn't we live in a system where we either could transfer that information more intuitively to human beings. So we don't have to spend so much time our youth sitting in a room, or make the universe more simple so that hot things are just hot. We don't have to understand about oxidation. I don't have to walk around with two nipples for the next year. We don't have to worry about convection or UV rays like it's just the world, the earth was built for supporting human life and that's it like just built into intrinsically into the code and we have to think about sunscreen and all this water and thirst and hunger and wealth disparity and all this other stuff. Why is it so complex God? I would love to get an answer like that. Or an answer to that. I would ask, why 137? 137 is a ubiquitous number in physics. It shows up in some of the most amazing places. It's the bonding constant. You're talking about the golden ratio. No, no, I'm talking about, I do investigations into number law. And when I have pages upon pages of the number 137 showing up in physics. And nobody knows why it's a total mystery. Scientists don't want to talk about it, but it's there. Okay. Okay. I think that would be a good acid test question. Why number, why that proportion, would you be satisfied if God just said that's my favorite number. I'm not sure. Okay. It's just my favorite number. It's a pretty cool number. I see it as like white green and red. I haven't seen a stage of, I have a weird thing with members. Go ahead Larry. What's your question. Don't say so. I asked him. I mean memory knows everything right. Right. Are we alone? Oh, very good. Where's our nearest neighbor, you know, inter inter space wise or built just for humanity. Yeah. So we can look at the sky and go, Oh, not to bias the question, but I would love to know, would you want to know if we weren't alone, if we weren't. Either answer to that is frightening. Either way, actually you're the only one. Isn't that great? It's like, we're the only thing. Yeah, you're it. It was like, yeah. That sucks. Yeah. Well, that means we don't have to worry about life on other plans. We can go ahead and send plants there. Or we don't have to worry about contamination. We just go there. Yep. Get the monkeys ready. We're launching them. It's time to manifest the destiny. How about that? Let's just get out there now. Get the monkeys ready. Yeah, gotta remember that. I've got a much more relevant personal imperative question here. Okay. What's next week's lottery winning number? Ah, now here's the thing. If you have a tie in the lottery, it's split. Did you know that, at least in the US? So if you gave the lottery numbers just no sweat and 7 billion people win the lottery next time. Everyone's getting like a quarter of a cent, maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not good for anybody. Well, how about, how about then? Where's he been all this time? That's a good question. That's a really good question. I like that. Of course his answer would be here, but you'd be only these people knew about me. That's the problem. Like, why didn't I explain myself to everybody or like, why did these guys have the one true vision? That's why did he pick three guys in a relatively tiny area of the world. Right. That's the question. And why to everyone. Yeah. And like, Christopher Hitchens will always say, you know, let's say that humans have been around for 200,000 years. I mean, anatomically current humans. And he didn't send Jesus until 2000 years ago. Correct. You know, why? Yeah. To all of those people who were not privileged to hear the gospel. Correct. Are they automatically damned because of simply where and when they live. And I'm not saying it's an acceptable answer. I'm definitely not saying that. But if it was, if the Twitter response to that was essentially along the lines of, well, I already Well, determine what happens to you after you die. So if you didn't know about me, I wasn't holding it against you. I'm just judging character. And regardless of the situation that you're born in, I the faith and which God you're actually worshiping isn't important to me. It's more of a question of just how do you treat other people. That's really the main thing I'm looking at. And anyone who dies, like I said, I can show you picture them. They're just right behind me. We're all hanging out there at the right seat of my table. It's a good time up here, regardless. So it's not that important if you didn't know about me. I was making sure that you were 20 tells us that on judgment day, God is going to judge each person by their works. And that's the only criterion a just and fair God could use. So, yes, obviously, there had to be virtuous Sumerians. There had to be a virtuous Australian Aborigines. These people are going to be judged by the kind of life as they lived, and the way they treated other people to put any other caveats on it. And that is to say that God is, in fact, not fair and just, which lies in the face of what most of us, most believers believe about God. Yeah, yeah. Well, we know we know he's biased because he has chosen people. He's not only chosen people, but people who he's willing and slave who are not the chosen people, though we are getting close to the end of the show, guys. I like explanation of his location because I use that when I'm driving and I keep turning around and I'm obviously lost and the kids say you're lost on you. I say, no, I know precisely where we are. We're here and now we're here and now we're here. They've taken that up now, so they always say, I know where we are. We're here. Great conversation, everybody. We'll just throw it straight up to Larry so we can close out the show for us and we can continue to talk after the show. Larry, why don't you take us out? Well, this has been the Digital Freethought Radio Hour on WZO Radio 103.9 LP FM here in Knoxville, Tennessee. Well, Digital Freethought Radio can be found on any podcast pretty much anywhere. Just go searching for a Digital Freethought Radio Hour. My content can be found at digitalfreethought.com. 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