 I'm going to bring Colonel Stevens up to get the thing going and this is going to be a joint presentation with Wendell and with Randy Winters Wendell is the modern treasure For all of us in ufology Wendell has been Knee deep in everything we are talking about since the 1940s Okay, I mean he is alive living treasure chest and encyclopedia and I have never met anyone in my life that is more open to everyone everyone That has questions and desires to know about the phenomena. I've been in his home He gets phone calls literally from around the world almost non-stop By people wanting information And he doesn't turn anybody away no one and We have a treasure a real treasure Here's Wendell Stevens Well, it's a pleasure to be here and I'll try to stand far enough back from this this Microphone so I don't get all of those bloopers on there Getting too close to it. I'm probably best known for my release of the material in the investigation of the Billy Meyer case This happens to be the 20-year anniversary of The beginning of those contacts with Edward Meyer in Switzerland It that was not the beginning of his contacts, however, that was the point Where his contacts began with human beings who told him that they came here from a star group We call the pleiades pleides and so we call them pleidians. That's not what he called them It's not what they call themselves We were I got into the case through my collection of UFO photographs and Luzin Stagg who was a niece of Carl Jung in Switzerland a multilingual journalist Wrote articles in four languages also one of the earliest UFO researchers in Europe and published the first UFO magazine in Europe Published it in Basel in German This was began in her area not too far from where she lived in Basel in Hinwill South of Zurich and She heard about it as soon as word got out of the small group there, which took several months to do so She went to meet the man and She found him to be very honest and sincere He was the poorest of poor. He was living in a At that time he was living in a renovated chicken house on a property that belonged to absentee owners Living out of the state and he was living there as a as a watchman for a living At time came shortly after the information got out locally and people came from everywhere To talk to him he became a liability rather than an asset and the owner of the property Told him you'd have to go and put another guard in there that didn't have so many visitors At that point the friends around Meyer pooled their small resources and made a down payment on a property Where they could bring mr. Meyer and his family to live with them all together And they began modifying a barn on the property and they made six or seven bedrooms And they all lived on it together And they worked on it for many months and years Building it into a liveable facility So this is not a group of people that had a lot of resource and a lot of assets and a lot of material to work with mr. Meyer had a camera that had been Given to him by somebody else because it was an old camera. It was a good Japanese camera But it was an old one had been dropped the viewfinder or the The focus adjustment had been jammed just a little bit short of infinity The mirror in the viewfinder had and it was beside the lens viewfinder had fallen over been knocked down He couldn't look through the viewfinder doll. He just held the camera out like this and shot his pictures he Was not a very good photographer Although he had taken a number of pictures before he just loaded the film in the camera and shot the pictures He shot all of his pictures on ASA 100 slide film positive slide film with a setting of F 11 and 1 to 125th of a second Then he didn't make any changes in the cameras. He he just used it all the time He had also been shooting pictures before in another contact series with other extraterrestrials in India with another camera That and that was before he lost his arm and could use the the camera effectively The camera that he was using that I found him using when I got there Was a type that he could roll the film snap the picture and everything all with one hand and by this time he had lost one arm in a bus accident and and So here was a man that was seriously handicapped had a broken camera Didn't have any money had some good friends around it But they were all very close friends all talking to each other That was taking these remarkable pictures and that impressed Lou Zinstock who had a sizable collection of photographs at the time when I got there and Since we had been exchanging photos for some time and she now had much to mark Greg gladly gave her a dozen of the pictures right out of his his box there his they were prints made from the slides positive to positive which was a process that was Current then in Switzerland. We got a year or two later here in the States. We can do it now and She thought the pictures were Remarkably good She was able to talk to a number of other witnesses there with Meyer some of whom had seen the craft She was able to view some of the landing sites So she was convinced that the contacts were going on But she didn't like the case because they didn't have a Jesus Christ and she was a born-again Christian And she thought that if you're not with them, you're against them and they must have been Representatives of the signs of the times mentioned in our revelation But she brought me the pictures anyway to show them to me her and Timothy good We're coming to the United States the following month to do some investigation in the Adam ski case Now Lou Zinstag was the lady that George Adam ski stayed with when he was in Europe She's the translator that took him to the Hague to talk to the King and Queen of the Netherlands She's the one that accompanied him to the Vatican to talk to the Pope. She accompanied him on other Official and state visits that he carried out when he was in Europe at that time So she knew mr. Adam ski quite well. She also was his translator for his second trip to Europe so now With mr. Adam ski's death She wanted to confirm come to the States and confirm some of the earlier information that she understood But had not seen personally and she went to Vista, California where he lived where she contacted mr. Glenn Stekling at the time who ended up with Adam ski's property and material So now Lou Zinstag calls me and she says she's coming to the States with Tim and that she's going to bring me some remarkable pictures that I don't surely want to see if I would meet her at the bus station when she gets in I Should be happy to let me take a look at them So I told her to call me when she got there and she did and a Month later. I picked her up. I happened to have in my house at the time Lee and Brett elders visiting from Phoenix at the time that I picked Lou Zinstag up And I brought her home and I introduced her and Tim good to lose it to Lee and Brett elders They had a private investigation organization in Phoenix called intercept and the organization's business was to Look at computer systems bank intelligence systems bank master files and things like that Electronically looking for penetration for somebody else trying to get information out of the banks out of the mines and out of a number of places they They were doing fairly well at their business because everybody was paranoid about everybody else it seems like and they were successful in finding The bugs and so they were doing well in their own private intelligence network So I tried to Interest them in in going to Switzerland with me to look the man in the eye and they were not interested in UFOs and could care less About the pictures. They thought they were remarkable and all but That ended that they drove on home that night and I didn't see them again for some time. I Tried to get Lou Zinstag to leave me copies of the pictures and she said she had promised not to but finally she let Me photograph five of them and dim light in the kitchen of my house So I could remember what they looked like and then she offered to translate communications between too close Okay, yeah, okay, she offered to translate communications between myself and mr. Myer which By now that I've seen the pictures. I've got they're the best I've seen anywhere at any time and I've got to get to the bottom of this myself In fact, I thought they were too good to be true So I wrote letters to mr. Myer asking questions and she'd translate my letters to German send him to Billy and he'd write the answer back in German and she'd translate them to English and send them to me after three or four quick exchanges in one month She said this is getting to be too much for me. I'm gonna have to bring somebody else into this So she brought in a lady Ilse von Jacobi another German journalist Who was also Malvalingual was writing articles in Italian French German and English and Miss just miss von Jacobi also translated several letters for me and Not and by this time I've decided That it's too slow taken too long. I've got to go look him in the eye and about that time I got my income tax refund on my tax on my home my And it was enough to make the trip to Europe and I bought a ticket And I wrote Ilse von Jacobi and asked her how to get there and she said I I'll have to go with you because he doesn't speak any English And so I said fine and I arranged to take her I was gonna pick her up in Wiesbaden and Go to Switzerland which we did and Finally got to him. That's how I got interested into the intro got introduced into the case It just developed from there Kind of I never intended to get it deeply in it as I am I Probably best known for my release of information out of the case and I should tell you here that The information that was being given to mr. Meyer was never intended for public release It was intended for a small group of people around him And I thought that it would be wise to let the rest of the world know what was going on And I released it against their will and without their permission and I wrote three articles for Saga magazine Which brought the house down on they got visitors from everywhere. I didn't know that many people read Saga magazine, but They they had so many visitors the neighbors complained about it they They got the village that the district police to issue a an order Prohibiting the assembly of more than eight people on the property at a time and of course 18 lived there and just harassment like that He survived by this by the time I got there the first time which is Several months after I'd written the article he had survived four assassination attempts already and By the time I got there the second time had gone to seven by the time I was at the third time had gone to 12 I think he and now has successfully survived 17 assassination attempts on his life and for the 14th one I happened to be With him I was Was we'd been in the house trying to correct some translations of hit the contact notes that I had had arranged for And he wasn't satisfied with the English translations. We had to redo it paragraph by paragraph to To get him to to agree that it was reasonably correct And at about 10 15 at night after hours of this He said let's go outside. He wanted he was a smoker. He wanted to go outside and smoke a cigarette He said why don't we go out and get some fresh air and we could do this resume this in the morning And we did and we walked out the back door of his house The kitchen went out to a lean-to and a lean-to went to the end of the lean-to and out into the street in front And he had an old car seat sitting to the right of the door as you came out and we came out there and Sat down on a car seat. He got out of cigarettes and we sat down together He was right beside me like this and as we sat down and I Moved to pull my pencil eggs up a little bit so they wouldn't be tight on my knees always bothers me And as I did that he was jerked across the front of me like that He came down across my lap and he started to get up and again like that and then we heard a shot We first felt debris Falling on us like a rat in the rafters there was rafters above us That's what I thought I believe it was raised on a farm and the rats and the rafters you kick dirt off on you And then we heard the shot and he said that was a shot And he turned around and put his finger in a bullet hole in a wall a cavity left by a bullet He said it's still hot the bullets behind the chair and we pulled the chair out and sure enough There was a 30 caliber dumb dumb bullet there So he said let's get a flashlight and go see About this and we went hands and knees into the house got a big long flashlight like this Came out with that and a rifle and went out searching in his garden for somebody that I didn't like the idea because the guy The other guys surely got a rifle out there, too And he can see us we got flashlights and he's in the dark But Billy Billy was determined to do it and and so I was trooped along with him And we found a spot where a man had stood in his garden long enough to leave a packed circle Footprints on top of footprints like this where he'd been out there shuffling his feet like this waiting Until we came out and then he had plenty of time He must have had a night scope on his rifle. He had had plenty of time It was about as far away as from here to the lighted doors on the side other side of the room there And he had a night scope and if Meyer had not been drawn across my lap at that time It would have gone through his forehead the bullet Now if they're playing tricks to give me a thrill It sure did because that could have got me too and I don't think Meyer was playing those kind of games And so now I know for sure that what he's telling me about the assassination attempts and many of them are witnessed by other people there I know that some of them are really happening because I just witnessed one So let me characterize the man a little bit for you He was a man of destiny from birth to now He came into this world at the beginning of the great World War two And from his home in Bullock, Switzerland He watched the American bombers and the German fighters battle it out over the river across from him in Germany He was baptized a strict Lutheran as a boy But was subsequently led through all the great religions of the world in expert in where he experienced Or for experience rather he enlisted in the French foreign Legion in France when he was in his Early teens or late teens and he was sent to the French outpost of Algeria for training he completed that and Deciding that the Legion wasn't the place he wanted to spend the rest of his life decided to leave it and he managed to escape from the Legion by walking across the Sahara desert a Feet unequaled before his time and he was joined there He joined a desert caravan. He had three men with him to him died on the way He joined a desert caravan working his way to the Red Sea where he was captured by Pirates Red Sea Pirates and enslaved aboard their dow Working for them. He was favored by putting him ashore in Iran on the Persian Gulf because He did what he's told to do and they liked him and from there He made his way to India where he studied little or a great teacher in the Ashoka ashram at Merali, India In near just north of do a new delhi That teacher in the the great teacher in the ashram was known as the Cambodian monk And he still lives today and he's a hundred and six years old and he says his words are mr. Meyer was a spiritual man from there from the age of Five Let me get this thing out of here. The light is I don't think I can raise the light So I'll just tip this a little better here from the age of five Meyer was guided and Educated by ET intelligence is preparing him for the role that he now plays as the head of a spiritual research and development center in Switzerland He is surrounded by others chosen to share in his present role there As the center where the center is created and designed to endure and survive for at least the next 700 years now, this is a long-term UFO contact. It's not gonna end overnight. It's not gonna enter in your or my lifetime This is certainly not anything that Like the run of the mill type Meyer's first contacts were with an old man in a pear shaped silvery gold ship who educated him in many ways Using a big helmet that he pulled over his head with wires or going into the helmet and blinking lights on it And he would leave in there for 15 or 20 minutes at a time where it filled his consciousness and his subconscious mind with Myriads of ideas and vast knowledge that he could not begin to describe But which came back to him later in life as he needed it now He was he had to leave school when in the sixth grade because he couldn't afford to go anymore And he he was the the poor child in the neighborhood. He didn't have shoes to go to school He didn't have new pants didn't have new shirts and shoes his new shirt And he became the butt of jokes and pranks played by the more affluent members of the of the school and he became disenchanted with it quick going to it They promoted him from the fifth to the sixth grade to get him out of the fifth And then he didn't go back, but two or three days in the sixth grade and left the school the This education was being conducted by another extraterrestrial entity group who told him that they came from the doll universe DAL universe and he didn't know what it was at the time and later in With which were more questions on where they came from and how they lived They told him that their universe was a balancing counterpart of our physical universe that we perceive an experience And that it exists because ours exists. Oh Thank you Bob And mr. Meyer had After the training session with the old man left which lasted a almost a year That stopped for several years. He he earned his living in a routine way And then a new series of contacts began with another female who said she came from the doll universe It's all over and he could call her ask it and It was ask it that took him led him through the various religions led him on his trips Across the desert some adventures that took him to death's very door on a number of occasions Where a survival his survival tested his ingenuity in his control of fear which he had to learn for other reasons But above all he learned faith in himself Vital training for the events to come it was she who prepared him for his future contacts with the Pleiadians Edward Meyer observed and photographed the doll ships of several different varieties for years more than nine years And he went aboard the doll ships many times even before meeting Sam Yassi now We knew all this when we were investigating the case that we knew we couldn't tell it all at one time. It's too big so he decided to Start where the contacts with Sam Yassi the Pleiadian team began that team was changed in his language customs and habits and could discuss Things at great length with him and we terminated our reporting of the case where that team left for other assignments and another solar system So we capsized what we released, but we had a great deal more on the case that we have never released So I went aboard the doll ships many times before meeting Sam Yassi He took over 300 photographs of the doll ships singly and in different groups of up to eight craft together at a time in the sky While he was India in India and in the mid-east near mid-east These photographs and all of his possessions are taken from him by Jordanian secret police when he was working his way back from India Where he had been persuaded to infiltrate a drug smuggling operation for US agents to make a living to make money And when it was intercepted the they dumped him They let the Iranians have him along with the drug smugglers And it took him some time before they obtained the release for him But when the Iranians released him they just turned him out and told him to go and they didn't give me his possessions money pictures Or nothing don't know whatever happened to those His personal things were not returned All he has now of those photos and contact reports are copies of a few that he had sent out to friends before his loss some of those pictures Photographed before four thousands of eyes at the New Delhi Railroad station were published on the front page of the New Delhi Daily newspaper the next day The local villagers around the Ashoka ashram at Morally according to Fobal Chang a 10-year-old girl at the ashram at the time who knew mr. Meyer very well because of his pet monkey that did many tricks Said that the villagers were suspicious of Meyer because of his contact with a Celestial woman a Woman that they saw come from the sky in a silvery ship get out and talk to Meyer go back in the ship and leave And this was observed by a number of the villagers who also watched Meyer photograph the doll ships from a distance sometimes It was on the 28th of January 1975 when Meyer experienced his first contact with the plate ins and that's where I began my reporting And so for you those of you who are familiar with the case that you know about it from there So I'm not a small team of six pleiadians was Especially trained in the language customs and habits of Meyer and the people around him in his area And so they were able to carry on extensive dialogue on science history many culture Many our relationship with our past and our future They told him that would come from a common ancestry that we are no more than pleiadians Slowed down in our evolution by our own actions and that we could be where they are today if we hadn't done this She actually posed her shape in the form of flights demonstrations from Meyer to photograph for very special reasons Which mostly failed and you know the rest of the story from there. So with that I'm going to Run you some photographs taken by Meyer, but first of all I want to Tell you how this developed after I published the article in Saga magazine the first article in Saga magazine people started writing me Reminding me or telling me of other alleged contacts by pleiadian humans with earth humanity and and and they kept coming and The contacts were When I started an investigation in switching into the pleiadian contacts that is in 1976 Which is the next year after the contacts began they'd already been going on for over a year and a half And they'd been kept in relative secrecy within the very small closed group up to that time very few people knew about them except for a Few local UFO researchers that had picked up the rumors and gone to find out Up to that time I had never heard of UFO contacts from the Pleiades before and The whole idea was fascinating and very exotic and quite possibly not even true at least that's what I thought then For time I thought these pleiadian contacts originated with Edward Meyer on the 28th of January their first contact with him And I didn't know anything about any other ones When I got on scene and began working directly with Meyer and the other witnesses there There were a lot of other witnesses. I interviewed 18. I discovered that these same UFO knots had been using another contactee Before Edward Meyer by the name of M. Rashid Rashid was a Greek Orthodox priest of the little church in Jerusalem Who had been their contactee for a time before picking Meyer up for the first time? Then the contact notes being kept by the Swiss group showed that Meyer had been told that this group had at least two other Active contacts on earth with earth humans going on at that time They told him that theirs was not the only inhabited planet in the Pleiades a comparatively young star group and that other similar humans from Some of those other planets were space travelers and some of them were even coming here to earth They told him that their group had contact operations going on in the Orient and in the western part of North America But would not reveal anymore Saying that it had nothing to do with their their relationship with Mr. Meyer When I released the amount of that remote amount of relevant information information has stirred up a Real storm over the next three years my attention was called to several other UFO contact cases where the UFO knots said they came from the Pleiades the first Was the discovery that a well-known Argentine UFO researcher Mr. Fabio Zerpa of Buenos Aires Was investigating a case involving Pleiadian Contacts with engineer Enrique Rincón and Enrique Rincón of Bogota, Colombia This was also a profound series of ongoing contacts that began in November 1973 Now this before mr. Meyer's contacts began in November 1973 and was still going on He thought his was the only such case also although he had been told by the Pleiadians visiting him that there were other Pleiadians in that star group other humans in that star group and some of them coming here Then in 1979 That's four years after mr. Meyer's contacts began a Correspondent who had read my magazine article in saga called my attention to another contact e-case Involving pleading extraterrestrials who were visiting one senior Guillermo Torres of Hacienda Las Cruces in Venezuela and this had been going on since 1974 that's a year before mr. Meyer's contacts began These pleiadian ETs were also Entirely human as with the ones visiting the Colombian and those that were visiting mr. Meyer, but these contacts were centered near El Tokuyo on the north coast of Venezuela in this hemisphere These ET contacts and visits and contacts were still going on also now These are going on simultaneously while I'm doing this and Hundreds of pages of notes and technical dialogue had been recorded by the Venezuelan group including Extensive discussions of scientific subjects the history of our planet the history of humanity on it and a lot of other things This was also kept highly confidential within a small select group there in Venezuela Group of pet a group of pair of participants who were not letting the story out of their group either Then in 1983 Lou Ferrich of the UFO news clip service sent me some notes on another pleadian contact case That began in July of 1974 that's also before mr. Meyer's contacts and was also still going on it involved one Charles a silver Who was remit repeatedly met by an extraterrestrial human woman who said he could call her Ramatis and That she and the other euthanas associated with her came here from their home in a star group. We called the Pleiades Those contacts were taking place in southern Peru and they also are still going on at this time The time is investigating as they were still going on and up to that time silver described those contacts in a 411 page book privately published what she called Oh God a date with the gods Which got little distribution very few people ever saw it Another correspondent who had purchased a copy of our preliminary report of investigation on the Swiss case wrote me and gave me the address of another contactee Whose extraterrestrial visitor told him that he came from the Pleiades and more specifically from the Alcion system That's the brightest star we see in the Pleiades His experiences began with that with the UFO sightings that led up to the later face-to-face Contacts between him and those extraterrestrials and long discussions of Scientific and technical subjects and the history of the human race here on this planet and these were Discussions carried out whether mr. Delmar do Varis and that's a that's a pen name adopted by that that man in Favor of his contact or said that he could call him Delmar do Varis and he didn't want his own name used So he used that false name Those contacts continued both face-to-face contacts and telepathic contacts for some time They continued for many years as a matter of fact and we're still going on at the time I was doing this and a whole philosophy of life and being an earth's man Earthman's relationship to the greater plan was imparted and in 1973 mr. DuVaris published this information in a 214 page book called the golden reed Now there's a lot of information being imparted here by these Human extraterrestrials who say they come from a star group. We call the Pleiades about that the time I received that book I received a registered letter from Argentina from another old friend old friend senior Pedro Romney act of Buenos Aires who had been who had seen something concerning my activities with the Swiss case And he was writing me to telling me that he had been in contact with ET beings who told him that their home was in the Star system we call else the own in the Pleiades I Received scores of letters from super sincere people who claimed that they had observed UFO craft that were very similar even identical To some of the craft pictured in the preliminary report which were the pictures taken by mr. Myers and some of them were quite accurately the same picture very similar craft All of the UFO clubs were receiving these two Which infuriated them to the extent that none of them ever told me what they were receiving I had to get my information from those who were put down by the clubs were even reporting anything to the clubs in the first place about the Pleiades They all became or nearly all of them Became incensed because I Didn't take them in on the contacts that I was Studying in Switzerland. I was very close friends with the Lorenzans with Hayden Hughes with Other researchers that had come and gone over the time I never tried to ally myself with the nightcap group because they were a government agency the private organizations were at the time were move on or apro which out of which move on grew and Hayden Hughes over in Oklahoma City and a couple in California but they Were angry because each one was angry because I considered Myself good friends with the the directors of them and they considered me a good friend And I didn't take the case to them so each one of them separately Became disturbed because I hadn't brought the case to them now. I'll tell you why I didn't do it When I got there and found out how big the case was how many Witnesses were involved how many photographs were involved. There's over 800 photographs and how many sites there was more than 20 sites And that it involved police it involved the Swiss army it involved Communications people it involved the security guard in the area it involved Swiss intelligence West German intelligence Russian intelligence Czech intelligence East German intelligence and Italian intelligence were all Involved in pursuing mr. Meyer all trying to collect as much information as they could for themselves so Realizing that it's going to take a number of trips back and forth to Switzerland That it's going to take staying power It can't be somebody that works for a living draws up a salary Has only a weekend off and can only spend a half a day on Saturday afternoon Investigating the case it's going to have to be somebody that can go there several times Maybe a dozen times maybe 25 times Going to have to stay for two to three weeks at a time Which means if you're working you're going to lose your job and that meant that automatically Excluded almost all of the clubs. They didn't have such investigators. They didn't have money. They didn't have resources There was no way any club in existence at the time could do it So I turned back to the folks that were in my home at the time that lose in stock brought me the pictures Lee and Brett elders and They had the intercept group and they were doing fairly well, and they had staying power. They could they were doing They were doing jobs all over the United States all over the Western Hemisphere and also Europe and they had a job coming up in London For a big banking system in London looking for a penetration of the bank communication system And they were going to be in Switzerland at the time that I was going to be there on my third trip And I asked them to join me and see what I was looking at and that's when they got there And we went over the sites again, and I showed them how it would be impossible For anybody to stage this even with the elaborate equipment a lot of money a lot of resources a whole lot of Confederates They still couldn't do it They became convinced that the case was worth studying and they began to put their own money in it I put mine in we went back and forth. I went there 14 times They went 12 or 13 each and and it kept going on and on so that's why we didn't take the clubs in and that's why the Clubs were basically why the clubs were upset about what we were doing and because we hadn't taken them in from the beginning We didn't go any place with it now as I said, I was good friends with Jim and Carl Lorenzo And I used to brief them it began at least in the first stages of this Briefing them on everything that happened each time and I bring in the pictures and show them to them and I they realized They couldn't do it and saying but take what I had because they didn't have any way to follow up on it At some point Jim Carl Lorenzo began to get the idea that since I was hanging around the apro office all the time That Lewis instag was really coming to apro with the pictures that I intercepted her and stole the case and she She told me that one time and I had keys to the office And I worked there for him and everything although it's not a member of apro And she took the keys away changed the locks in the office in order to people there to not let me in the door anymore after that Well, that didn't stop my context because Jim Lorenzo Was very interested and he used to call me early on Friday morning and suggest we have breakfast together at the country kitchen And we did this Almost every other week and he'd asked me about how the pleading case was developing He even wrote me that statement himself in his own handwriting that was in the cover of the first pictorial book that Carl Lorenzo denied that he ever offered in and She ordered us to take it out of the the book because it wasn't true Which it was we didn't take it out and she got very upset over that but that's where we were and that's why Most of the clubs that they take exception to what I was doing and they they didn't go along with what I was doing Now having all examined all of this from a knowledgeable point of view now With hindsight and with a lot of other reports on pleidian contacts We can draw some conclusions that seem to be of interest people wonder how can you tell if the case is real or not? I'm gonna list 20 points that points of knowledge that occur Frequently in the pleidian contacts where there's humans So if you find a half a dozen or more of these points in a case where the Extraterrestrial humans say they come from the Pleiades They're probably right number one All of those mentioned here who claimed they came from what we call the Pleiades looked as much human as we do and We're all about our size and stature in build Number two all of them articulated the language of their contactee Speaking fluently of our sciences history and culture. They all spoke our language Which meant they either knew it before or that they had acquired it and they knew how to read our Textbooks on the shelf and they knew how to investigate our research and study live by observing it themselves through their viewing screens They all said it's number three. They all said that earth humanity was descended from their own ancient ancestors and From whom we had inherited an unusual aggressiveness They also argued that both our Creationist theory and our evolutionist theory are equally untenable and that we really should be talking about or thinking about a Migrationist theory because we all came here from some way someplace else. We were brought here number four All of them said that their ancestors had been here many times before over the ages Coming and going as conditions change now. We thought that our history began 4,000 or 5,000 or 6,000 years ago with the back to our earliest Written form or symbol form. Well, that's just our modern reemergence from an other state of society Number five they all claimed that they participated in some of the great events of our religious works and our Mythologies sometimes even being adorbed and worshipped as gods, which they said they were not they said they were humans Just like us number six. They all claimed extensive lifespans at least ten times. What is normal for us now? all of them They all just number seven they all without exception Deplore our misuse of our sciences today Saying that our mind has outrun our spiritual development and that we have already prepared the end of our planet and our own species as we know it and That we have done this before over and over and still have not learned this very important lesson for this We are a valuable laboratory study and many ETs come here from far and wide to observe us and how we might survive Number eight they all travel faster than the speed of light as we know it in their interstellar shifts They're not plagued by the speed of light limitations as Our science understands it number nine There was no conclusive evidence that any of the groups mentioned were in direct contact with any other of the Pleiadian groups mentioned They're all coming here from the Pleiades, but they're coming at different times and on their own business doing their own thing And there was no evidence at least they didn't mention other Pleiadian groups visiting here other than to say that there were others Number ten they all mentioned other inhabited planets in the star group. We call the Pleiades Number 11 they all mentioned other extraterrestrial beings from elsewhere in the universe coming here to observe and study earth and its lifeforms three mentioned actual contact and willing cooperation with other ETs of other race types and systems Three of them use robotoid part mechanical and part organic crease created beings in limited operational functions in their societies Number 12 they all used organic computers that could be controlled telepathically Number 13 they all foresaw great changes in our planet in the near future Number 14 none of them had any money as we know it They didn't have any religion as we know it and they had no competitive political system as we know it Number 15 Three of them had active bases operating on the surface of our planet and those active bases Frequently hosted other extraterrestrial species types up to eight in a group or up to eight other types for each of those who were hosting others coming here Number 16 They all were capable of under ocean operations and used our oceans to great advantage The water is no more hostile in deep space 17 they all used a variety of different spacecraft in their operations And they all had distinctive styles of ships and equipment yet. There were many similarities in many respects Number 18 three groups that we know of use very large carrier type mother ships in deep space near our solar system While they were here. They didn't come into the solar system Number 19 in each case To the group of individuals who formed around the contactee the new contacts and information was so mind-boggling and so profound and So far exceeded their knowledge of what was going on elsewhere in the world That they carefully guarded their secret within their own immediate circle for a number of years and then only confided it to a very few Trusted friends and the 20 number 20 and the most important point of all up to 1979 none of these groups had ever heard of each other and there was no cross correspondence between the ones I just mentioned Now with that characterization and those points in mind I would like to show you some of the pictures taken by mr. Meyer and To give you an idea of what is being challenged as a lot of fraudulent photography And you can judge for yourself, and then we'll show you some other pictures taken by others and Might let you make your own comparison. You can you can be this the decision-maker now You all probably have heard of many of you have heard of the program put on by think that's Laura Lee or something like that in the Northwest where they had a a Popular Pleiades Pleiades basher by the name of Cal Corp on the program and he argued a lot of things against them the Swiss case, so We don't encourage argument if people have a better explanation. We are wide open to it You should listen to his arguments and see if they make sense to you if they do They're going to be better than my arguments if they don't you can see through some of them Mr. Cal Corp also appeared on the Art Bell program He got a lot of a lot of listeners they all tuned in and he was doing the same thing there now, let me tell you who mr. Cal Corp is he was a 16 year old boy in high school when he wrote me the first time about two years three years after I began investigating the Pleidian case after he'd read the saga article and he wanted some pictures and I sent him 20 Cold slides that I had made from the pictures. I was working with and Then he wanted some more pictures and I send him to more and then he wanted more and I told him that we couldn't send him all The pictures it was getting expensive wasn't getting anything in return and the next in the next Exchange of mail. I got a package of 20 slides from Cal Corp He wanted to exchange them for more Pleidian pictures. Well, I put him in a box and sent him another cold slide So you aren't the best ones. They're the ones that were poor color faded not a good copy and I just put his slides aside because I didn't have a time to do anything with him and then a friend of Cal Corp Who had seen the Swiss pictures knew what Cal was doing wrote me a letter and said do you know that Cal Corp is? Manufacturing those slides that he's sending you he's faking them up to see if you can tell the difference so I put them in a projector and took a look at them and Some of the slides were a plastic plate Thrown up on the other side of a house by a confederate when it came above the roof line Cal Corp would snap it with his camera and had it fall back out of sight. Those were some that he offered he had others that were faked in different ways and I I wrote him back and told him that I wasn't going to exchange any more pictures with him that I I wasn't interested in in processing the face. I didn't have any room to keep him in my files I've got over 3,000 photographs. I certainly don't need fakes in there and there's nothing I can do with him and He became a little incensed he sent the pictures that I had sent him to Saga magazine as a photo exclusive and they published Cal Corp's photo exclusive on the on that case, but Mr. Corp became Angry because we wouldn't take him into the case. There was another High school teacher in Wisconsin at the time named of Bill Moore Who wrote and wanted us to send him copies of all the pictures copies of our Contact notes copies of everything that we had photographs that we had taken so he could analyze them And we wrote back and told Bill Moore that we didn't need anybody else in the case We were already having them analyzed by the best experts we could find and Qualified in various fields and disciplines and so he began attacking the case He became first critical that Bill Moore is known for poison pen writing He he was the ghostwriter for Charles Burlitz when Charles Burlitz brought the Philadelphia experiment material to Bill Moore to be written up in proper style and punctuated and prepared for a publisher It didn't have Bill Moore's name. I was it was Charles Burlitz manuscript Bill Moore inserted his name on there as by Charles Burlitz and William Moore in very small letters on the on the front cover of The dust jacket the next time they published it He demanded equal billing and the names are the same size the third time they published it The Philadelphia experiment was by Bill Moore and Charles Burlitz so that gave you an idea that kind of personality bill more had at the time and You know he's faded from the scene by now having confessed that he was working for the CIA in the first place getting paid by them At least some things that he was doing so Bill Moore was he discovered Cal Corp through his article in the saga magazine about the Swiss case and a couple of challenging remarks that Corp made so Bill Moore wrote up a Manuscript attacking the case From his poison pen hobby point of view and sent it to Cal Corp who put his name on it And it was published in a yellow-covered magazine paid for by a man and wife who were also disenchanted about something It was called the great Billy Meyer hoax or something like that and they Accused me of perpetrating the whole thing Bill Moore and Several other people and agencies used Cal Corp as a mouthpiece because he was still a minor He was only 17 years old of time Couldn't be pursued over slander or anything else So they had him making slenderous remarks about us and doing a lot of things and we failed to rise to the challenge We didn't even we didn't try to answer about it when move on for instance You some of your move on members here and you remember this one when his first article was published in the move on journal it occupied three or four pages and So I wrote a and you know When it charges made it can be a simple one-line charge and it takes a half a page of explanation to explain it It usually has a foundation in some fact, but it's been distorted So I wrote back about a nine-page letter to move on rebuttals to the Cal Corp article and what the answer I got from Walt andress was they only give a half a page for rebuttals. Well, that's impossible. I couldn't rebut even one of it The comments on a half a page. They all had some merit, but they had to be explained So we never tried we never attempted to rebut any of those arguments since you notice We never roast the challenge We never argue with anybody and we don't feel impaled to lay the case on anybody We don't care whether you believe it or not. We're offering the information that we know That we have experienced and it's for you to evaluate it I it you know It's not important to us and we found that this was not important to the people in Switzerland They don't care whether we believe it or not They let us have access to their information to do what we wanted to do with it to evaluate it the way we wanted to And and and they never tried to persuade us to any point of view And so we're not trying to persuade you to any point of view We're offering information and that's what I'm trying to do here So now I'm going to show you about a page of slides here real quick so I can bring on and not a man here Who has been investigating another new case? Develop it's actually it's not so new but it's new to us because we only heard about it a year ago That's developing here in this country in Florida That is sort of a continuation of what I was just describing with respect to the Swiss case now If you bring up the slides and cut down the lights, please I'll try to describe them The first picture you're going to see here Is the full moon? Rising over the sand dunes There's a oh, I think they need that one for their camera Okay, the first picture you see here is a full moon rising over the sand dunes at Yuma And I'm showing you this because I want you to remember that that's exactly the size the full moon appears in a slide film in a Positive slide made by an ordinary 35 millimeter camera of the standard lens spread of 49 millimeters I think it is but anything that you see in the pictures that I'm going to show you that are relatively larger than that Will have appeared to the photographer as being larger than the full moon rising So here's the first one This mr. Meyer and his family That's that's the uniform he is wearing as the the guard at the facility he was guarding that was he was making his living at the With that he's also a Watchman at that time for the railroad and that's his railroad uniform Here is a one of the pictures taken in in India at the time he was in the ash and that's Five balls of light in the sky that was published in a new at a deli newspaper There were a Number of other pictures taken in time and that thing goes out the ceiling at the top Is there a way to tip it down at all art or is this what we are going to have to go with the The object image is at the top of the picture here The picture is taken in a freck nature preserve now remember if this appears larger than the apparent size of the full moon You're going to see that the the apparent size of the photographer It looks about four or five times as big right? So to the photographer taking the picture that would have appeared to be four or five times as large as the full moon rising Okay, thank you art There's another picture in the nature freck nature preserve here number two Covering over a tree. Actually, that's about number five just before it departed. That's all I put in here on that particular case Here is a series of four pictures taken over Jacobsburg Allenburg Switzerland 27th of February That's just one month later at 10 o'clock in the morning and there are four ships in formation there Two are remote drones being controlled by the two mother ships the lower ships of the mother ships about Seven meters. That's about 21 feet in diameter. The drones are about four meters or 12 feet in diameter Here is the four ships wheeling around and coming back overhead here. You can see some of the bottom detail We were accused early on when I hadn't released this picture yet all the pictures seem to have dark bottom so One that was the arguments offered was that they're all fakes that they're all models because the bottoms are black Well, you can see the bottoms are net not black there. You can see detail on all of them Here's another picture taken of those four craft and there's two out of the scene at the top We'll go by them quick because we want to bring the other gentlemen on here Now remember if that's bigger than the apparent size the rising moon in the picture We saw that was that much bigger to the photographer when he took these pictures. This is Jacobsburg Allenburg again 27th of February Here is an interesting picture We don't have to tip that about down because we can see enough of it But you see the rays being reflected from the dome of the craft there. Those are called crepuscular rays Crepuscular rays are like a rainbow They are they're formed at a distance from the observer You can never get up to a per crepuscular ray anymore. You can catch up to a rainbow. This means this is one of the Points Demonstrating that this is not a model close to the camera because it has to be a certain distance away before the Crepuscular rays can even be seen So we put this one in here for that reason Here's another picture taken in same series to show you what it looks like up close when it's so close that it's obscuring the sky Don't remember if that's bigger than the size of the rising moon That's how much bigger it was in a parent size to the photographer at the time I'm going to back up to that one I just had here because I think my friend the Randy Winters has a picture similar to that He's going to show you where his craft is doing something very interesting And I want you to remember this one just for that purpose. He'll mention it again when he comes up here are two craft a 21-foot diameter mother ship or shepherd ship Controlling a remote control craft in this case the remote craft had a Safety seat for a single pilot they could be flown by one pilot aboard or they could be flown under remote control The 21-foot diameter craft had two pilot positions aboard seat positions aboard and a third jump Position where they could carry a pilot or another person a board So they're not very big the ships really are not large in size They are close to the camera because they and their apparent size is large because they are close Here is another picture following the one just before we'll back go back to here You can see it going overhead it appears to be higher in the sky only because it's closer to the cameraman And as they move away they appear to descend to the horizon only because they're going away from him And appear to be going down. It's just an optical illusion This next series of pictures and there's several in here was taking it over sideline Switzerland on 8 march 1975 The object was seen coming up the hazy valley there slowly and His first picture was taken of it over the log pile. He took about 13 or 14 pictures in series here It's Running to his left over the tops of birch trees. These are tall birch trees growing down the hill from where myra is standing They're not bush not bushes Here's a second following picture in that series and it moved along beyond the incinerator here To curve around a tall stand of tall pine trees here You can see again that that's about four times the visual diameter of the rising moon So it's quite large to him visually. It's really not that far away when it's about 280 meters as a matter of fact Here it's further back. It's about 300 meters 320 meters away. I think we measured for this one It's turned and it's following the stand of pine trees there coming to the left and here It's going around the end of it now. This is a bit of an enlargement here to get To see some detail in it. So in perspective, it would have been about half that size And here it is going away Here's another that's the last picture in that series Here's another series. It was photographed over Winkle right at switzerland on the 18th of march 1975 at 9 o'clock in the morning under a heavy cloudy overcast The object was flying under the clouds It flew back and forth over an area there of the building that you see over here In the side is a sanatorium of some kind for ill people You can see that it's shown edge on tilted Both directions This one is the beginning now. There's a lot more in each of these series. I'm just showing you some examples This is the one of the series taken over Byrd Rumlikon. Byrd Rumlikon means it's between the little town of Byrd and the little town of Rumlikon Some place in between over the countryside there 12 june 1975 He was invited to this Photographic event. He was often Told when to bring his camera because if he didn't if he wasn't told that he could take pictures He brought the camera. He didn't wouldn't they wouldn't give an opportunity to take them anyway so when they were going to Pose the ship for pictures they invited him to bring his cameras and in this case He talked took two 35 millimeter hand cameras and an eight millimeter movie camera a key wound eight millimeter movie camera set the movie camera on a tripod Turned it on automatic took his hand camera and waited for him to appear and they Appeared just like that came right out of the the distance rapidly approaching Making s turns coming up to the camera and he simultaneously Filmed this picture these pictures on eight millimeter Film as well as 35 millimeter slides positive slides This picture was taken near the same area At a time when they brought three ships in Two of them hovered in the air one landed it had the third seat empty They invited Meyer to go with them The first two ships have taken off now. There's the high one there is number one Here's number two and he's in the third one and they're just leaving the ground There was a second picture taken when they were about a thousand feet in the air There it is you can't see the ground very well, but it's down here in the haze in a good picture You can see buildings underground you can see that that they are in the air Here's a series of pictures that we have never released anywhere Before and you're seeing them for the first time taken over back to hornly On the 28th of march 1976 Where he has is using the tripod as a foreground reference we had been telling him Craft in the sky don't mean a thing there's nothing around him. You can't tell far how far away they are How big they are or anything get foreground get background get objects alongside of me anything you can So now he's trying to do that He's trying to get the legs of his tripod in the foreground later He tries to get bushes and things like that in the foreground But this is a series you're seeing for the first time there's number one We probably have four or five of them in here here. He's shooting through the legs of his tripod Here it's Apparently to the left now He's moving around the craft is moving slowly and he's moving back and forth And if you if you want to sit down with these pictures and do some geometry You can find about how much the craft is moving and about how far away by how he's changing position around the tripod there Here's a another picture in the series on that day He had two photographic events one in the morning and one in the afternoon and this picture was taken Over back to hornly also same day and I want you to notice the detail under the ship. This is from the 35 millimeter slide Here's another picture in that series Let's see if I can do something with the focus here How's that? Okay, I want you to look carefully at the amount of detail you can see You can see some trees a tree line under the craft And a little point of trees that rises above the horizon line Uh, there's a notch there in in the top of the hill where there are no trees. You can't see much in it now. Can you? So we took this picture. This was One of the clearer pictures They took because there was very little motion in the camera and very little motion on the ship And we got nice sharp edges we took it to a a uh Graphics processing shop in bozzle Where they had a hell chroma graph 300 laser scanner an argon laser scanner And they put it through the scanner And created four separate color separation negatives uh amber cyan and blue our amber cyan and red negatives And a black and white negative and we took those negatives. We had the negatives made poster size We took them to a poster printer and had them printed on poster paper Now remember what you're seeing there and here's the detail that came out That's how much it improved the picture by just laser scanning it And printing it back And that's the first time we saw detail like that any craft anywhere And so it's a good process for testing. We stumbled onto it accidentally We didn't know how it was going to come out when we started This next one was photographed over hawson ball and you see that he is doing what we said He is getting some foreground in his pictures as he uh, he's moving to the right as the craft is moving to his right Also, and he keeps bringing bushes between him and the approaching craft And it's descending to a position behind the bare limb tree there where it's hovering now I think if you look closely you can see some crepuscular rays on that craft there You see them just below the the rim flange shining down a kind of a v Rays like that. Those are also crepuscular rays from the sun reflecting off the dome of the craft and they can only be perceived at a distance Change is Eliminating the possibility of that being a model close up Here's a picture of that series in that series after the contact There was a contact on the ground with the craft hovering beyond the tree When they boarded the craft and left he took pictures of the departing craft as it circled out over the valley Came back around and then ascended vertically overhead. Here's a series of pictures taken at schmarbule By where the swiss army was carrying was holding army maneuvers And it was a big army maneuver exercise. They had aircraft. They had tanks. They had infantry forces They had paratroops everything there and the swiss are always on some kind of an exercise But this was one of their bigger ones and right in the middle of the exercise Meyer was summoned to a contact in the middle of the exercise area And he had to he had to go across fields and around ditches to miss the checkpoints to get to the place and when he got there the Pleiadian craft approached from beyond the ridge line The army is on the other side of the ridge at this present time and unknown to him. They're watching this on their radar And it makes the approach you can see it coming through the smoke here as it gets closer you barely see it and then it came up at an angle overhead And he turned on a tape recorder. He was carrying with him and he began recording The sounds that he was hearing from the spacecraft. He didn't always hear sounds, but this time it was making a sound And he began recording the sounds. He had a Half-hour tape in his recording just let it run and took pictures as that swiss army mirage now vectored in by the radar Made 22 passes on the alien vehicle in the sky at low level around him there on the 22nd pass The mirage broke off contact and went back to a space and landed We learned from a mechanic at the base that the mirage returned with a story of Trying to intercept it to get gun camera pictures of a ship and as soon as he armed the fire control system Which also arms the gun camera so he could take the pictures The electronic system began to smoke and melt it down in the cockpit It all had to be changed out at a very great expense to the swiss army So while this was going on And while it's making passes Meyer was observed on the hillside with his camera and his tape recorder and his his moped head And they sent a police car to find out what he was doing there the police car Provincial police car drove up Two policemen got out started walking towards meyer the craft hovering and overhead there Uh Asked it started asking what he was doing. He pointed up They looked up and then the craft that was already making a humming sound turned on a real loud humming whining sound that was ear piercing screeching and the cups ran back jumped in the car put it into gear and raced off in the cloud of dust And never came back all of this is recorded on the tape So when we took the tape When we took that tape to the naval sound research laboratory at groten connecticut for analysis, they identified the Make or the the model of the airplane. They also identified the sounds of a yunkers j-252 German transport plane dropping paratroopers They identified the sounds of a pilates porter observation airplane flying overhead They recorded the sounds of the police car coming with a siren on before it entered the scene there getting Keeping its clearance in traffic as it raced in they recorded the sounds of a european train All of these things they found in the sound bank and they could tell us Which train they could tell us the maker the kind of a car that it was everything But they couldn't tell us what was the source of the sound from the spacecraft. There was no match in the sound bank From buzz saws to anything that they had they couldn't couldn't get a match for the sounds being made by the spacecraft that day here is uh The part of switch living in the red oval oval there where much of this is taking place And here is a play of the star group Uh, that's what they look like when we see them. How close are we randy? We got Huh? Yeah, how close are we now to how many minutes are we into this? Okay, I I'm gonna run through real quick through these slides and not bother to exist the disc of fistos And it's a story in linear a on an ancient Dock an ancient artifact from crete thousands of years old describing from the center out if you can see it It is in mythology in several mythologies Here we see it on the on the tomb uh at palenque in mexico a uh A mexican figure of a man riding a rocket Here is like the planes of ecco peru where uh Uh The speaker just before me here showed you some scenes from the stones of ecco That's where they were the planes of you can see the planes of nasca right around the planes of nasca Just to the right and here in the desert is where the those stones that Found by dr. Cabrera are and here's what the stones look like there's a hemisphere Of a planet probably ours on the cover of cabrera's book here is some of the what this shows is Metallic birds with men riding out of that means Airborne vehicles of some kind with men in them and notice that they're using tubes That means extended vision viewing screens of some kind of board the little average And as you see one down here out riding in the back of a dinosaur there a little squat round men that wore Knee length grease grass skirts the visitors were dressed in elaborate body-fitting costumes Here is a uh one of the stars Stones carved with astronomical figures that shows A probable origin for the people coming here from the stars and this indicates that they're coming here from the Pleiades And here's a book written by uh JJ Benitez does another humanity exists describing a full book describing the stones of ecco And the interpretations made by dr. Cabrera and others that they are probably coming here from the Pleiades And had been coming here since the time of the dinosaurs that observed indigenous earth humanity living in Harmony with the dinosaurs Even domesticated some here's a painting made by peter the frenchman pieta de la francesca showing Disshaped objects in the sky during a religious event. He painted 12 stations across for the church at orizzo italy and in five of those stations across these dome disc clouds appeared Here's a painting taken from a famous church in italy and I don't remember it I don't think I got it on my card here Where if you notice in the painting in the box up in the upper right hand corner There's a shepherd with his dog looking at a bright object in the sky behind the virgin's head This is the Madonna and st. John and there's the object down here in that enlargement It's clearly a structured object radiating a great amount of light painted into that religious picture And it's a very famous painting hangs at a big church in a shrine in italy Here is a Place st. cloud minnesota where one of the contacts with mr. Lloyd's zurbis Also being carried out by human beings from the Pleiades, and I didn't even discuss that before it's one of the cases that came to my attention In fact, I spent a lot of time with mr. Zurbis on that case all of those points 20 points that I mentioned fit the case Including curing his son of an incurable disease here is a Book written by delam or duveris on the contacts his contacts with pleiadians called the golden reed. I mentioned that such a book existed here is The over in the circle there is a place east of bogota where enrique castillo rincón an attorney from bogota was led to the first Rendezvous with the human beings that told him that they came from the Pleiades Here is what that ship looked like the ones that the one that Enrique castillo rincón was taken to he was picked up by a smaller shuttle ship And taken to a larger craft The smaller shuttle ship was operated by human like beings little humanoids Here is this the environmental gear worn by the Humans aboard the spacecraft when they came to the surface of the planet for some reason I don't know why but when they got aboard the ship they took the The suits off and this is how they were dressed. They were shoulder-length light hair had light eyes light colored eyes One-piece body fitting suits Those were the pleiadians outside of the environmental gear Here is a star map they brought up on a screen to show him exactly where they came from in the pleiades Didn't make any sense to him, but he was allowed to trace it on a piece of paper And the little dark spot in the lower right hand corner is the position of our son on that screen display Here is a picture taken at bogota colombia by Two young boys that one of them had gotten a camera for For a birthday and are taking this at the time that enrique castillo rincón was picked up by a small shuttle craft and taken to the Mothership and I'll show you it's up here in the right hand corner. It looks like a shuttlecock It's got a silvery white flange with a reddish dome on the top Here's another picture of the same craft. You can see it a little better. It's high in the clouds It's these you can see the rosy dome there in the silvery white flange and here is uh The thing has moved around to the sky into a silhouette position And here is where uh Juan kyle perue is where uh charles silva. It was having his contacts charles silva was the man Shirley mclean called david in her book ramates is the woman that surely mclean called rama in her book and those contacts were going on same time as investigating the case in switzerland Here's charles silva's book a date with the gods here is uh The place near you can see a tokuyo in the middle el tokuyo That's the place in venezuela where the contacts were taking place in the sugar cane field And these contacts as they began and developed the word got out around the countryside and cars came from everywhere until they had as many as Hundreds of cars blocking the roads to the cane fields and they get in there so densely Crowded and jammed in that david the police would have to come and unscramble the cars from the outside in to get them all out of there again And that happened a number of times and and we interviewed police that were involved in that particular Operation they even reported seeing the objects performing over the cane fields themselves Here i'm showing you a gulf breeze here You all know where it is just off the coast of pennacola Because when i spent some time with ed walters and his wife francy in a In a condo one time in orlando where we were doing a weak thing like this They told he read told me that his the controllers of the little robot beings that he saw Told him they came from the Pleiades and that when he was aboard the The mothership that the dish shaped craft that controlled the little robotoids He said that uh, they were humans just like us that uh And and and for that reason he was very interested in what i was was doing Here's the book that ed walter wrote. I think uh, he didn't say in this one, but in the next one here He described he I think he mentioned one time that the The beings aboard the ship told him they came from the Pleiades He went into some detail with it with me because he was interested in the pleiades case These are the little robotoids that uh, operated the shuttlecraft that picked that up That's also the creature. They saw in the porch of his The veranda of his home in gulf breeze florida Here's the uh, the area of Buenos Aires where uh The forgotten his name the the uh Man from from argentina was having his contacts with pleiades pleidian humans Okay, uh, you wonder can I do just a couple of slides here ready? While you change the carousel back there, I let me tell you that uh A time came in the discussions with uh, the mr. Meyer had with the pleiades and Randy when he was living there with him randy had long discussions with Meyer hours and hours into the night And so i'm sure that this came up in his discussions with him too, but the uh The the german militarists were frequently mentioned and uh At some point in the discussion with ta the pleidian man He uh said something about okay, just hold that there. He said something about that the german uh, the germans were developing disk shapecraft during the war And that they had succeeded in developing operational vehicles that had to be evacuated before germany collapsed and that they were taken elsewhere and suggested That uh, ta said that some went to an arctic and some went to the amazon and a number of other places We didn't pay much attention to that at the time because everybody knew that They weren't in in the jungle in the amazon jungles Until we started doing some research on it There's a man in the audience here that has done a lot of research on this And has come up with a lot of information with his kind permission I'm going to show you several pictures here That show how far the german research got before it was evacuated this is Is the white corridor escape plan that was allowed for for As the as germany was falling You'll see that somebody has marked the positions of nine Saturn shaped disks on there Those were the locations of research facilities Controlled by the german ss. They were the They were the responsible authority for the v7 weapons research program in germany And they successfully evacuated seven of them destroyed two Before the americans captured here's one of the research vehicles though that the germans produced And it certainly is a disc shaped craft. This is an early one There are two When the war was winding down and and we were overrunning the german territory We had a deceptor the french had a sector the australians had some the english had some and whoever Captured a factory went in with trucks and hauled off all the factories documents Send them back here to the united states so we could figure out what they were doing and see what we could learn from them In those documents took years to sift through all the documents, but in the documents the australians found a 16 millimeter video documentary prepared by German technicians describing or outlining their research program and And they published it mr. Torsizki encountered a copy and he has told us about it for a number of years But after mr. Torsizki's release here And the australian released down there the kgb started searching their files. They came up with another one Made by the germans also and you can tell which ones are from the russian film because they have the timecode On the right hand side when they were transferred to videotape and the the australian film does not so this is Is from the russian captured Film footage this is from the the film footage captured by the australians and here you see A large craft it's a disc shaped craft with a dome on the top here You see a truck this is a big german truck and there's a gantry crane on the other side of the craft So you can see that this is probably Around a hundred feet in diameter there if we could see it better. There are three men working under the craft almost standing up Here's a one of that type in flight Here's another one this one is from the russian film Here's another one now you can see that there are some appendages underneath. There's some kind of structure on the bottom that they're working with Here's another version This is a version where the germans have mounted a Tank turret inverted on the bottom of the craft trying to give it some cannon power firepower Here is a view from the bottom of the craft the german craft directly overhead. There's the german insignia on it Here's a another view of the one with the tank cannon pod mounted underneath Here's one in flight in the air These are from the russian film These may here's a drawing From the german files and it also shows the german insignia On the side of the craft there. It was a this is a large craft intended to be Hundreds of feet in diameter. I believe it was supposed to be 300 feet in diameter And this was being considered as a mars expeditionary craft now. This is back in the 40s Here's a german Suggestion for a flying dreadnought disc Here's another Expanded version of that And here's one that reached some considerable design sophistication where they have located facilities and equipment aboard the craft Here's a craft You see notice the ss symbol on the top there It's a paper that I am told by some people that it's a it's hoaxed But it came from australia along with the film and I don't know how much Hoaxing there's done to it all the writing is in german The craft is quite similar to the one that was photographed by george adamski back in 1953 And this was allegedly evacuated from Germany sometime in the in 40s the middle 40s 1943 or 44 And taken someplace else for development. Here's the one that mr. Adamski happened to photograph notice the similarity between the two Here's another picture taken over england by The connoisseur moors by two young boys eight eight seven and eight years Sorry, I believe it's six and eight years old with a a pinhole camera doesn't even have a lens in it But it's similar in shape and when those are projected together by a Leonard cramp in england he got similar profiles Suggesting that they have that adamski and the boys in england photographed the same or very similar vehicle here is a Schematic of a proposed german mother ship that would carry One of the large hanabu type craft and three of the smaller vril type craft aboard the mother ship And here's a picture of a mother ship in flight over germany Here's another picture taken by george adamski of what he considered called the mother ship in his Contacts and if you'll notice those little blobs of light if you look closely at the middle one there, you'll notice that it's made up of Spots of light It's not just a blob of light. It's it's it's bright spots of light a bar of bright spots of light With a a curve on the top and a curve on the bottom Here is a craft that was photographed. This is not probably not extraterrestrial. It's a vehicle photographed over South africa, which is just off the coast of Antarctica new Schwaben line in art in Antarctica A piece of Antarctic are claimed by the Germans and staked out by them and they have a fairly large Facility down here's a picture taken over a queensland australia by mr. Hall of what looks like a Jungle hat shape craft with three hemispheres under the bottom It's quite similar to another drawing now here's notice the shape of this drawing with the the reverse curve in the upper dome And here's a photograph taken over Italy of three craft in formation with the very same shape So one has to wonder a little bit about Where these shapes are coming from and how much of this fits together and with that And that slight introduction. I want to bring randy on because he is Investigating a case in miami that involves all of these things Including the german connection. So with that randy. Are you ready down there? I'm going to show you today. We may be full circle on really unraveling the mystery Uh, it has always been believed by most all of us who have known about the meyer case Particularly back in the early 80s that we were given what we were told that someone was coming from the Pleiades They probably were our ancient ancestors Uh, we didn't know any different than that and we had no reason to really suspect that Wendell is just giving you some information about the development of the german situation back in the 20 30s Because now 20 years later the answers are starting to come out in kind of full circle Uh, I got involved in the case, uh, quite a little bit differently than wendell Uh, my interest was really in kind of the spiritual and historical information And when I first heard about the pleiading case over at miers, I says well, you know If human life is really coming from someplace else and is that advanced imagine what we could learn from them And I had a few hundred questions I wanted to know about you know life and creation of the universe and so forth So I eventually found my way over to miers house and wound up painting the bar and taking care of the chickens and all that And living there for a long period of time where I spent a lot of time with billy I had him all to myself for about four months just he and I hanging out every day So I drained his brain pretty good And when I did that, uh I I got together a collection of all of his information It turned out that his contacts had gone on for about three years on a weekly basis He had 115 contacts He had over 2000 pages of his own personal notes that he had taken of all of these conversations Which he turned over to me. We went all through them Uh, I eventually put those into a book called the pleidian mission which some of you may know about I have it here with me if you'd like to get a copy My interest was trying to put this connection together with who we are on this earth And if someone is coming from another world and they're saying our ancestors Is that true? Is there really a connection here? The pleidian material tells us that our forefathers were their forefathers that human life from the pleides has been coming here a long time That their forefathers were from a place called lyra. That's where they descended from and that is the seat of human life Well, I studied all this information and I was traveling about a year ago Down in florida giving a talk on this case And uh, actually it was at the request of a young lady in florida asked me to come down to speak to her group Which spoke Spanish and I don't speak Spanish So, uh, I had an interesting afternoon being translated and speaking very slowly and explaining myself And then at the end of the talk a young man came up to him and introduced himself and told me his name was audrey aim And he says do you remember an evening about six years ago? When you were living a billy meyers house and you were hearing voices in your head And I kind of yeah, I remember that yeah, but I've told a few people that so that didn't surprise me And he says you were uh, you heard your name called out and then you got up Went over and answered the door to see who was there, didn't you? I says yeah as a matter of fact I did and uh, I've told that to a few people too But I was getting intrigued with how he would know this And then he says well after you looked up and down the hall Then it occurred to you that somebody might be trying to send you something and you lay down on the bed and listen To the thoughts that came in and those next thoughts told you to study here Learn what you can but don't get involved in the situation and move on I says yeah, I never told anybody that really but you didn't listen instead You got involved and stayed there anyway, didn't you? I says yeah He says I was on board of craft over the top of the house that night when the Pleiadians were sending you that information I've been having contacts with them for 29 years and they told me in six years They would start contacts in america to continue the process if they started in switzerland And when they were going to do that that you would be the person that I have contact with So about that time my mind was kind of you know getting a little unraveled Uh, the first thought that hit me was if someone's been reading my thoughts and putting them in there for all these years That they still wanted to talk to me that kind of amazed me so We usually try to keep most of our thoughts, you know to ourselves so but any rate He says I know you're going to want some validation of this and some proof Art whenever you're ready you could start the hi8 camera and just kind of let her roll As validation of what he was talking about he says My contacts have been going on for about 29 years, but they're quite different than the meyer situation Meyer was chosen as the contact person at birth. He says I was not he says I am a pleiadian soul transfer There are about 20 of us on the planet by the way this i'm going to let this tape run It's a tape. I made down at his house. Uh, this is where he lives He has a photo book of pictures. He's been shooting for years Uh, and you'll see a lot of similarity in the craft Um, this is one of the remote disc here He says that he hangs out with him because he's family He has no interest in being a contact person But they had asked him to do it to start getting new information and new photos out into the general public This is by the way is one of the kind of pie pan remote disc Um, it's very similar to one that Wendell dis showed you over myers home He says those are very common down over mexico city that they have quite a few of them stationed down there This is a beam ship type one of those 21 footers Has the little antenna on it. It's 21 feet in diameter and carry three people has interdimensional capabilities This craft this picture was taken from inside a craft If you look at it for a second, you'll notice that you're in the clouds kind of looking down at it This one we have the original negative on it and it's just been analyzed and given a pretty good clean bill of health Um, this one is taken through his screen door. He has a very busy patio He lives in miami in the middle of the city And on his patio Most of these pictures are taken and he has a large screen door there and this one he took very quickly through the screen Here he's in the craft again and you can see the craft now look at the top left It's probably hard to see but there's a green line up there. That's a mothership what we would call a mothership It's the first time we've seen anything cylinder in reference to the pleidian case And it's green and has kind of a bright red flare right around the middle of it somehow This one's a little hard to see. It's just several discs over some treetops I ask him why his uh What was what were the pleidians going to try to make known through him? They told me that they wanted to continue the situation that they had started with meyer Uh, when they'll show you an overhead picture. This is the one that he was making reference to He takes most of these pictures with a polaroid now look at the clouds right through the whole of the craft When he took the picture, it took a 30th of a second to take it The craft was disappearing dematerializing as he took the picture and during the shot It was in the kind of in various stages of being invisible and you can see the clouds right through it When he's on board the craft, he says you you can't tell anything when this is happening They power up the field around the craft And by so doing it distorts reflected light the craft could be floating right over your head and your eyes Cannot see it and they can be sitting there checking you out These next two or three shots are at night I had asked him after I met him if he could get some video for us And he did he obliged we got him a video camera The ones you're looking at right now. These are still shots. He took some polaroids at the same time I'm going to let this run just here for a few minutes while I explain the things to you I asked him about uh Notice this polaroid here because a little later there's a video of this same action and you'll kind of want to remember this shot Audrey ain't told me that there was a very unusual situation going on here on earth That years ago in connection with what window was telling you about in the late 20s and 30s That there were several old spirits born into the german plane That were of lyrian descent who were far older than most of the others Because of their vast knowledge their spiritual knowledge from previous lives It was a fairly easy matter for them to get onto the idea of building these discs with very little help. They were able to do it They had disc flying he said in the early 30s They weren't flying very well, but they were also making connection with the et's who were watching them By the time world war two came along The pleiadians and other races saw what was happening on the german situation and did not want the technology involved in world war two To throw the balance of power out So they invited several german families italian families and english families who were involved in the development of this technology To leave that situation and bring their families and kids with them Well, they brought them to a station that adrian calls the space city Down in south america somewhere by the way, that's the ground the morning after the craft was there where the grounds all burned up They brought these people down to south america and once they had them down there They weren't too sure what to do with them. They had a couple hundred of them So they offered to educate them and seize the opportunity to start educating from people from earth About what life is like on other planets adrian told me that he frequently goes back to the home planets He's shown me pictures of the home planets He's shown me pictures of the space city in south america, which we're trying to get some copies of And he tells me that there are communities now on a pleiadian world With earth people living there with their families learning and studying from them He believes there's approximately a 20 year program going on where these people may start returning To help out the situation here on earth He feels that it's his mission. He's taking it on personally to start finding other people That might wanting to start coming connection with the pleiadians themselves And he's teaching his own method of meditation and helping people find their own mantras This is adrian if you look closely at the bottom of the picture. This is last Thanksgiving day a year ago in 94 These are his pleiadian parents coming to pick him up His girlfriend is with him and is taking the picture If you look at the top, you can see the craft coming in There's also a four or five other craft in the area in the background. It's a little hard to see I know in the dark They picked him up and picked up his girlfriend. She gets to go on all the rides A lucky girl in the Meyer case says wife poppy never got to go anywhere But she gets to go along. She takes most of the pictures They hung out for that afternoon. She said I asked her if she'd been on other trips with him and she says, oh, yeah I get to go all the time. He says I don't ask many questions I just sit in the craft and be quiet, but she takes most of the photos This is a little hard to see there's four or five discs over his apartment building there And I can't see them from over here But now check these are six discs that are just beginning to materialize. This is off his patio It's a common thing for him to stand on the patio, which you'll see next Take notes. They send him telepathic information. Here he is standing on the patio notice the disc in formation Now he didn't even notice they were there his girlfriend grabbed the picture while he's taking his notes down in the very next picture A helicopter flies in see the helicopter flies over the apartment buildings now Look at the first three discs as they see the helicopter They begin to power up the field and dematerialize and the camera caught them just in various stages there of dematerializing Art is there any chance we could hit the rewind and kind of let them see that last 30 seconds again This is his spot out on the patio. Okay, you can let go anywhere in there He spends a lot of time on the patio He says they talk to him all the time and he's had and he writes down all of his notes The he doesn't hear a voice he gets the stream of visions like watching a movie Then he has to translate it and then later than they come and then he cleans up his notes Now art if you don't mind doing that one more time back to the same spot. I want you Excuse me Okay, I don't know how good it pauses, but I wanted to stop on that one if I can okay good Now take a close look at this picture Wendell dis showed you some discs to look almost exactly like that didn't he The original what's called viril levitation design that was designed by these germans back in the 30s What you're looking at are nine viril craft made in south america by earth people who are learning from the pleiadians These are not pleiadian craft The next picture with the helicopter is also made here in south america He has been to the space city and when he will let me have them He has a nice group of beautiful photos walking around down there with disc everywhere When he got down there, he had his polaroid with him and they told him they were going to be there for a while and let him hang out He got out of the craft with his polaroid and turned around He was very surprised because he had not been there before but he said it looked like an airport There were rows of discs sitting on the ground parked all over the place They are zeta disc the zetas are down there. They're a pleiadian very large pleiadian disc There's a whole score of german viril craft even some old hanabu's down there And pretty much all the craft that we've seen throughout the meyer case are all parked down there also There was about a hundred of them and his photo book if he'll let me have them which i'll i'll get them yet They're sitting right on the ground with people working on him what he's concerned about is he says that When people begin to find out that a select group of people from europe Have had some extra privileges over the last 30 40 years. They've gone to other worlds They've had children on other worlds. They no longer speak german italian or english They've learned on a pleiadian world and now they're coming back here to help their own planet They're having contacts with people all over the planet. Sometimes they say they're from the pleides Sometimes they say from andromeda. Sometimes they say they're from a ryan But it's all pretty much coming from the same source. I believe They're trying to help people out all over the planet by raising our consciousness They are very aware that in the near future. We have some very difficult times ahead of us They feel if they were to come out and say our parents were germans That no one's going to pay much attention and the huge amount of prejudice and hate We still have on the planet would distort anything that we might learn from them I think more and more we're going to find out in the near future contacts all over the planet The crafts are starting to look the same the messages starting to be the same Ladies and gentlemen, there's over a hundred thousand people right now from earth and their descendants living on pleiadian planets learning These will the people that are starting to come back here over the next few years That are probably going to make a major difference in the way our civilization goes Okay, all right, let her go If you watch this one closely as the camera goes by Two pictures down you'll see one of those honey booze that Wendell was talking about that was just taken a few months ago. We thought they were extinct, but they're not Right at the bottom see them You want to try it one more time art? If it has a you can freeze there Well looking at the bottom right We'll try it one more time Wham Okay, that's a german honey boo parked at the space city That's about 30 40 years old They built them to last and you can see two men servicing them there He has probably 30 40 pictures in this caliber walking around down the space city of all different types of craft So there is a serious connection going on between different people on our planet and the extraterrestrials Okay, art. Let her go Audrey ain't has a special study group that he's starting now he feels that The way that he could possibly be a benefit here was to find certain people that he thinks are ready And guide them through meditation in their own awareness And help them find themselves spiritually Apparently the people that are most of the people anyway that are making the connections with them Are people that through meditation learn to get into a balanced state With clear thought so they can receive information from them. This is another shot where the craft is just dematerializing Fortunately he shot a lot of these their Polaroids with a little cheap a 1995 sure shot camera It's got a 30th of a second plastic lens on it Just like in the Meyer case We have a man here getting the shots of a lifetime and he's taking them with a very inexpensive camera We've purchased him a new 35 millimeter zoom auto focus auto wine and a case of film So hopefully he will start getting some more and just recently yesterday I had someone volunteer to buy him one of those new $4,000 triple chip panasonics to take some stuff So I think our quality of our pictures will increase a little bit This next section is a little slow. It's a night video And if you know where the fast forward is our fast forward for about two minutes, it'll move on down I'd ask him to get some video for us so we could see it and he obliged As a odd rain situation is a little different than the Meyer situation when Meyer's context started It was like going to school. They came by almost on a weekly basis And it was almost a classroom situation where he would ask questions They would give answers They would teach him things about history philosophy and spirituality that they wanted to Odd rain situation is quite different. He never knows when they're coming by They treat him like a lost relative when they do come by they pick him up telling him to be quiet They got things to do he hangs out with him for a day or two. He can't usually ask for any favors And even for the summer they told him they're kind of busy and they just left him alone He wasn't even sure when they were coming back So we have a little different situation going here. We're never sure exactly what's happening When I asked him to get some video he says, all right, I'll try And he got the camera and he went out at night to take the video this video, by the way It's just south of miami on the beach He was directed for him and his girlfriend to go down there, which they did First there was just one craft until they parked the car and got their bearings and set out Then two came in and are you can fast forward a little bit more and then we'll get a little group thing going here Okay, now we're pretty good This is similar to some of the shots. We've also seen down in mexico city and that area down there There's quite a bit of shots being seen at night with groups of them coming and making formations like this He actually ran the camera here for about 15 minutes. So um That's why we're fast forwarding a little bit Besides it gets a little more exciting here in a minute Okay, our roll it on forward a little bit You can take it down to where the screen will suddenly kind of go bright red. It should be about another minute or so We've put together a collection of most all of these pictures quite a few more that aren't on here Today too have a new videotape called the miami contacts and it'll be out next week I have a table somewhere over here in the exhibit room. I haven't been to see it yet But we'll have some forums there for anybody that wants to get it all these pictures and quite a few more will be on there and Yeah, I've prepared a tape tomorrow night, which will have quite a bit more on there too So um, you can see that I'm not sure what time it's showing but some eight o'clock. Okay I'm showing it at eight o'clock Okay, here we go Coming up right after this there's two sections here where the Where there's three of them and then right after that there's a pretty interesting daytime shot Most of his contacts, um since he's quite telepathic He says they they get in touch with him and let him know they're around and since he lives in a centralized area in miami It's common for them to stay cloaked and they just communicate with him And then occasionally they'll let him know they're outside if he wants to get a picture And on this particular occasion coming up out here. He was actually in the shower And uh, they told him they were outside and if he wanted to get some video he could So he grabbed his camera ran in the living room and you'll see it here in a second the craft's outside And he's taking the picture through the screen because he just noticed that outside There's a bunch of people playing golf and he doesn't have any clothes on So he's telling them to hang on for a minute while he gets some pants on And uh, that's why the camera is jumping around and he doesn't want to open the screen So it's throwing the focus off So they came back later that night and he walked out on the patio and they let him get a little better shot Now you'll remember from the earlier shots There's a water right in front and those are the apartment buildings I'd say those are a good quarter mile away on the other side of the park over there in those buildings Yeah, it's um You can see the lights coming out off. I've got a second generation copy here. So I had to inform him that we like originals. He was He was concerned about tape costs So he took his original copy lower to a vhs and then redid the original because he only had one tape cassette So I've had to educate him a little bit about saving all those originals. This is that Craft up in the clouds again You can see the antenna coming out the top up there This is by the way one of the ones we have the original negative on we've got them now on several of the pictures And I'm just beginning to get them analyzed by some independent steady imaging people and so far they've given this shot anyway a real clean bill of health They couldn't find anything wrong with it. Everything matches up. There's no tampering with the film He doesn't have too many negatives. Most of these pictures, unfortunately were polaroids with a rubber band around him and his dresser He didn't really expect ever show them to anyone This one's most unusual. There's a shadow on the ground He got a telepathic message looked outside expecting his pleiadium friends And there was a life form out there in some sort of environment suit He went outside with his camera and the bean forced his hands down to the ground and made him take a picture of the shadow And then as he raised his arms back up to talk to the bean he vanished right in front of him He doesn't have any clue at all where the life form came from Now here's a couple of shots on the patio again. He's lowered the camera down. You can see the disc there Through the bars on the patio trying to get something in the foreground so you can see them Now look on the far left. It's just barely in there. That's one of the german honoboos from the space city That's a 40 year old craft and the three on the right are uh crafts made in space city down there by american people with the aid of the pleiadians They're teaching them their technology They're taking them back and forth to other worlds Their philosophy seems to be to take a small percentage of us Educated some matters of spirituality higher consciousness how to live a higher quality life Okay, you can stop the tape there art And you can start the vhs whenever you want to Their philosophy seems to be to educate a few of us that could come back and then educate the rest of us They realize that it would be rather futile to try to make a landing on the white house lawn or to take over the planet Uh watch right here see it disappearing This is that craft you saw at night and it's a frame by frame shot of it disappearing This is how they power the field up and how it disappears We're always wondering why you can't see them They have that ability and there we've got it on film frame by frame They power the craft is still setting right there and you can't see it. It didn't go anywhere There's a series on here now of uh several nighttime shots He's you can see he's panning back to show the foreground how far away that he is That's where he lives. He's got a pretty interesting patio I think i'm just going to go down there and you know rent space on his patio for a few weeks and kind of hang out I think maybe one more time. We'll get to see it. Uh Yeah, this is another one of the same one I I didn't have time to edit all these together properly the this talk came a little quicker than I had anticipated I haven't found anybody else that has seen these I found two other people in his meditation study group who've gone out with him and seen the craft One of the ladies just during a meditation asked him Uh how to see the craft he gave her some clues on what to meditate on and when she left that night One of the craft followed over her car all the way home I wish I knew uh You know wendell and I discussed that one night. Wendell's guessing southeast ecuador I don't have a guess at all and odd rain doesn't know and he said it really wouldn't do you much good If you did know there's no way to get to it and with the technology they have they wouldn't let you in anyway So there are no roads to it's somewhere in south america, but I really don't know where Now this is some new one. I got a call about a week ago from him said they came by again He's this next series now for about three or four minutes was all shot on october 20th And again, he's on his patio and he's you can see the telephone poles off in the distance It's three or four blocks away right in the middle of the telephone pole. Here's comes the disc It'll move to the left And they're talking to him in his head now telling him to get ready And they're giving him some instructions They've asked him basically they've asked him if he can leave the house I asked to get if we could get some more video in some area where the Craft was a little more obvious other things to compare it to so they said they would And that's what you're going to see next. They're going to lead him around town and down the freeway and following Again, you can see the apartment buildings down at the bottom here now Or the clock on the vcr is running were 10.03 on october 20th And he's got the things zoomed out about as far as he can go see how far away it is Now to fake something like these next shots you'd have to have some serious cooperation with somebody in a helicopter Some sort of large illuminated object that half the city would see It's interesting that uh Watch this one when you're going to see it now for a minute or so it's flickering There's a light flickering off the bottom of it and going around it And this is very similar to uh video taken by other people in mexico and other areas I've seen video shot down in mexico and probably somebody here at the congress may have something that looks very similar to this It is my belief this is happening all over I think that that we have one group down in south america that is somehow coordinating Contacts with people all over the planet And they are keeping them all separate They're not allowing the contact person to know who the other individual is Meyer always believed he was the only one and I think he really believed that Uh, it just doesn't turning out to be true. There are people having contacts all over the planet They don't tell them they tell them they're special They're telling that they're unique in almost every case too They all have been told that there is some sort of spiritual connection through past lives Which may be true Meyer had many beliefs of who he had been Historically and past lives connected to the growth of our civilization Adrien is the same situation He also believes that he has been several rather important historic people involved in the development of life here on our planet And it's quite possible. That's exactly what they've been doing Pulling people off from the other side bringing them into physical life at a time when they're needed and causing great change in our history It's 10 14. This went on for an hour The tape goes clear to 10 58 He's just sent me copies of it brief little excerpts that you'll see we're at 10 14 here We jumped to 10 40 here Any second now we're going to be out on the freeway That's a jumpy tape No, uh, I ask him if they did especially when you see this stuff on the freeway I mean you you'd think everybody had a wreck But he said no, uh, that that particular night October 20th. They he knew they were coming Actually, he did tell me about a week earlier that he would be having a contact that night. He says that the Certain characteristics in the magnetic field of the planet itself Facilitate having contacts better on sometimes than others Because the pleading disc that we're looking at here He says have to convert themselves from fine matter into solid form so that we can see them now here We're on the freeway And the disc is floating over some buildings over there here. It's over the miami airport He's I ask him did anybody else see them? He says no That they opened the dimension door brought the craft in they tuned it to his wavelength his brainway whatever and he's the only one that can see it That's a good question. I wish I understood that technology myself He says even on some occasions. He doesn't see the craft They tell him where to aim and when he can only see it by the camera when he looks through the camera He can see it and not with the naked eye But that is rather baffling. It's certainly a technology that's a little bit beyond our understanding If they can control reflected light, that's one thing But how they could narrow it down to just one individual or something else here We had people and it's flying right along down by the freeway now Excuse me It appears to be I see us jumping around a lot and it didn't before is that something you're doing harder Mm-hmm Well, this is a slo-mo that he did of the thing where it's moving behind trees I cleaned it up a lot on the tape so you can see it frame by frame We're not getting a real good representation here, but Well, they seem to be that situation happened several times in the Meyer case where several people that drove them out to context took cameras And we're not able to get pictures themselves while billy was nearby getting a shot So I think they they somehow managed art to confine it out to the individual These next pictures here on my last trip down there I was flipping it through his photo book again, and he had put inserted some pictures in here I hadn't seen before here's the top of one of those discs So I I've got my camcorder with me and I just added them on here. So I thought you'd like to see this By the way, this disc here at the pleiadian disc Has time travel capabilities This is most of the early craft the levitation craft that the germans were designing in the 30s could travel 30 to 40 Thousand miles an hour and they were able to visit all of the planets in our solar system even in the late 30s And we're building craft in the 40s Because of their association with the et's they've kind of disconnected themselves for their concern for our day to day living As you might well imagine And have built a variety of different types of crafts and have been very involved now in their own interplanetary discovery Here we've got a picture from the top of the top of the cupola of one of those And you can almost see the framework of the craft and here's one right below And I'm not sure how these pictures were taken. He hasn't explained them yet But we're obviously pretty close or else somebody had a pretty good zoom lens when they got it It looks as though the air or the clouds right below the craft is somehow being disturbed By the field of the ship Yes, they are and apparently I've been told anyway. That's my job here That that's why he asked me to do this because he doesn't want to so I've asked them if I can you know, we turn about spare play Could I go aboard the craft and meet them and he's been him high now for months He says trying to get me a ride, but it hasn't happened yet I keep my camera ready though Uh, we did have one uh, sighting about a week or so ago My wife and I were driving back here from vagus and down by zizics road by baker We saw a large one come right over right bias and go right down behind the mountain This is something sitting on the ground. Adrien says it's a type of remote craft And he didn't take the picture they gave him the picture, but he was not familiar with it either Well up until he told me they were building him here. I had no idea We don't really at this point. We're just we're just trying to figure things out This one here, which is a beamship type is very similar to the style that the germans were building years ago I would tend to think that that one is probably designed and still built here He tells me even the bmw is still involved and makes parts and sends them down to the space city for some of the disc You believe that This is a view from the top of the pleiadian disc, which is quite different We also have to begin to consider I ask god rain one desk is well, perhaps we should consider the idea that there are no pleiadians at all Maybe we're just looking at continued advancement in the german situation And he says oh no, there's a vast difference in the germans and the pleiadians. That's all the take part He can bring the lights up the um He tells me that the main difference is between the pleiadians and the germans the germans when they visit are no different than you And I they look just the same as we do They're the same size and i'm sure window gets many reports of the same thing they could pass in a crowd He tells me at the space city when he was there a pleiadian craft came in and he says the place gets like church The crafts are larger when the craft sets down everybody gets very reverent The pleiadians are larger. They're seven to eight feet tall He says you can best describe them as like perfect beings. There's no flaws. There's no lines on their skin He says for the most part, they are so incredibly spiritually advanced That just being around them. He says put you a little bit in awe because you can tell they know everything about you They can sense your thoughts. They feel you and there's nothing that you can hide from them But he says they're very peaceful immediately. You feel tremendous sort of love and compassion from them They don't they don't talk much. He says you might ask them a question They'll pretty much know what you're going to ask before you ask it They'll pause for a second scan your thoughts to see how well you're going to deal with the answer decide to tell you What to tell you give you the answer very succinctly and quietly and stop And he says there's a vast difference He says they come in and out of the space city all the time And he says everybody down there reveres them pretty much like gods down there So well, that's I think our kind of our latest Pleiadian update Okay, we got about five minutes for questions anything for window or me anything you'd like to ask Come to the mic bob says So we can get it on the tape there Do they give you any do they give you any indication? Which particular star in the pleiades system they're coming from the new contacts? Audrey Ayn says are all from the alcoone area during the mire years mire was always very emphatic that all of his contacts were one group from tegeta and he believed they were from only one solar system Audrey Ayn says that in the alcoone area, which is the principal area where there are They come from there are hundreds of planets with civilized life there And the underground facilities here on earth are have been built and maintained by the alcoone group for a long period of time During one of the previous Presentations by norio We were shown satellite capabilities of the government Is there a possibility the government's aware of space city and if so What's the situation on that? Yes, they are He says if the higher levels above governments, everybody knows what's going on They're aware of the space city doesn't do them any good They can't come in and out anyway and he says there are people at the space city Representatives from governments and from the cia that the cia to some extent has been kind of a liaison between them and governments for a long period of time Thank you Vladimir, how are you one question? Actually, I wanted to make a little note on the first photograph that window showed Which was a photograph of the vril or din craft built in 44 A craft that was the first to racially build craft with warp speed capability that departed on the first interstellar flight 50 years this april so that was the reason We made the big documentary for nippon television and this will be the topic of my Little unauthorized presentation tomorrow evening Okay, thank you