 I think it's really interesting with having things coming out like a lab ground meat. Yes, exactly. All right, guys. Welcome back to the channel. If you're new, my name is Bobby guys. Today we're going to react to John Venus's podcast where he interviews Mike the vegan. Let's go. What's going on everyone? John Venus here today. I have a new podcast for you guys. A very special episode. One of the first guests ever to be on the podcast. Right of the bed. You can feel the nervousness of Mike the vegan. He doesn't appear as confident and as calm collected as he does on his private videos. Honor to have you, man. It's great to be here. Who are you? Let the people know what your name is, what you do a little bit about yourself, man. Just a dude who makes YouTube videos. No, I'm Mike the vegan. I have what's so funny about that. Just a dude that makes YouTube videos. No, I'm Mike the vegan. Yeah. Mike the vegan, a dude that makes YouTube videos. I'm Mike the vegan. I have a YouTube channel. Um, I feel weird like saying how many subscribers I have, but I have to a 325,000. Yes. I still got why did you just bring that up yourself? Who cares how many subscribers you have? I still got more. Whatever the point is, uh, whatever science stuff and a lot of it's, uh, you know, the science of reversing different diseases preventing bunch of science cherry picking stuff. That's what you do. Yes. Great. Is as well as the environmental stuff and, you know, the animal stuff tied in as well. So that's where I come from. Yeah. Environmental stuff, health stuff, vegan stuff, propaganda stuff. Where I come from. Yeah. I have watched. Look at those vegan eyes, man. Crazy. Look how black they are. I'd say about three years now word. Yeah. How long have you been on YouTube for years? Four years. The first probably in the first like under 20,000 subscribers. Oh, a hundred percent. I remember you were getting like 3000 views or something like that. So you've come a long way and, uh, since then you've come this iconic figure for, you know, iconic figure. Yeah. Correct. John, like anybody in the vegan scene, you're all icons. You're all gods. They're my gods at least science or like, you know, it's, it's really hard to make videos that. You know, are easy to understand and include a lot of scientific information. You like, in my opinion, you're one of the best in the game. It's not the best. So you're helping out a lot of people. Myself included. I watch a lot of your videos. So cool. Cool. Yeah. Absolutely authentic. Absolutely real. Absolutely collected. Calm, not nervous at all. All right. Really genuine. Look at those eyes. What the hell is going on there? Thank you. So whatever comes out, sometimes they're making appropriate jokes. So it is. So tell me a little bit about yourself. How long have you been vegan? Where you, where are you from? Are you, you know, like how, how was it, you know, transitioning to vegan diet? What actually made the change? Like, give me a little vegan. If you would tell me the guy is some sort of eccentric artist, some sort of junkie artist that's into drugs, DMT paintings. Maybe I would believe you. Origin story. So about eight years ago, my partner, Lindy handed me the China study. She was already vegan for four years at that point. So she is OG vegan and I just read it in a day extra on a road trip and I went vegan right there. Or I thought I went vegan. But then I was like, oh, maybe I need to eat like some fish every once in a while. Otherwise, you know, I won't have any animal protein or something weird will happen. And then I just, yeah. So that got me to, and then, and then I basically just did a ton of research to do my due diligence, paranoid due diligence really at that level and just looked at a bunch of the research and although, you know, literature that I could find. Yeah, absolutely paranoid due diligence. Sure. I mean, every single human being has been eating meat for the entire time that humans have been here. And now you're going to do the exact opposite, but you call yourself paranoid whilst doing that. No, that is a normal instinct. Of course, you will question a diet that excludes everything that your ancestors ate. And then finally came to the conclusion. Oh, I don't need it. We're just learning the basics of amino acids. Oh, you don't need some weird amino acid and fish. That's like the magical fish zine. He looks so spaced out, man. It's insane. Am I the only one that recognizes this? This is fucking crazy, man. You can see here that they did use a filter. And in the end of the video, I want to do a comparison and lower the saturation because this video is already touched up. There's already a coloring filter on it. So it was a health aspect that drew you into it. And then you looked more in the ethical side of things. Purely selfish in the beginning, purely selfish. You know, I was just trying to prevent those diseases that people get down the line. And then I had the meat goggles off, as I always say. You know, I was no longer participating. And then I was finally able to see the animals and what was going on with the animals. And I've always been into the environmental stuff. So that was just icing on the cake, really. Yeah, amazing. Amazing vegan propaganda. Again, if you would truly be into the environment, you would know about rotational farming practices, about regenerative agriculture, so on and so forth. Yeah, amazing. So you've been vegan for how long did you say again? Eight years. Eight years. Wow, okay. Yeah, full blown end stage vegan. I don't know that many people have been vegan eight years. So that's pretty cool. Soon a little more. No, there won't be more, Mike. Soon there will be more ex-vegans. You have a dropout rate of at least 85%. Yeah, and what would you say was a main kind of like challenge that you experienced or, you know... What's going on with my mic? I actually finally made a full switch. Was there anything in particular that you like noticed? Physically or mentally? It didn't happen overnight, but just getting better, just getting my acne better. Like since the age of 15 or 16, I had bad enough acne that it was like what I was probably thinking about in the conversation that I was having at any given time. And I went well until I was, you know, at least seven years. Oh wow, okay, yeah. Yeah, so six or seven years. And then I went vegan and it got significantly better enough for it to not bother me as much like psychologically. Yeah, it got better, but it didn't get away. Of course, it got better because you eliminated probably the processed foods. However, you still get it because plants contain a lot of sugars which will irritate your skin, of course. If you would eliminate all of those plants and you would try, for example, carnivorous diet, you, of course, would look much better and your acne would disappear. And then going less processed vegan was what finally made it so I didn't have like a zit every couple of days, you know? Yeah, that's amazing. Actually, a lot of vegan influencers have experienced the exact same thing. I had Cystic Acne, Brian Turner had Cystic Acne, you had Acne, Derek had Acne. Like there's so many people I know that who had Acne and have experienced amazing results when switching to a whole group of people. Yeah, but John, come on, let's be honest. Now you did laser therapy, so that doesn't mean that you magically healed your skin. So, on that note though, do you think, you know, maybe through the research you've read or articles or whatever. Whatever. If you were to switch to a vegan diet but still include a lot of oils and processed foods, do you think that it would, you know, kind of like it would be possible to get rid of your acne? Wow. All right, guys. I've been around, I've been in the party scene and this is, if I wouldn't know any better, a guy that's on speed. This is how he looks like. You are spaced out, man. Look at his jaw just constantly twitching, his eyes twitching, this nervousness. This happens when you're under the influence of drugs. Why? Because you're excreting a lot of adrenaline, nor adrenaline, so on and so forth, right? And this is the exact same behavior that gets stimulated by your starvation. This is what we see here, man. It's really, really shocking. Or do you think you would have to go all the way in terms of whole life foods? Well, the one thing that did it was me stopping cooking with oil at home, even still eating at restaurants. So, like, I cut my oil consumption down by like... Yeah, you should cut down your plant oil consumption. However, you would have no issues if you would use lard or tello or butter. 60 or 70, maybe 80%. And that's when my skin cleared up. And, you know, as I see it happen, and you know, whether it's the oil or something going on with salt or whatever, or just like the amount of calories you consume when you go out, maybe even boosting insulin in some way. Maybe boosting insulin in some way. By default, you will always boost insulin on a plant-based diet. Name one whole plant food that doesn't contain carbohydrates. But, you know, after eating restaurants for a few days when I'm traveling, sometimes I'll start getting a little bit more acne than I usually would. Right. Yeah, I've noticed that too. Oh, you still get acne. And you notice that too, John. Hmm, strange that is. Interesting. So, I want to ask you an interesting question. Yeah, interesting. So, what is the thing that you've learned the most? Like, what are a couple of lessons that you learned from being a public figure, making YouTube videos for these past four years? What is like one of the main lessons that you learn with things that have, you know, been kind of like surprising? Wow. Well, just right off the bat, I just feel super lucky that people actually want to watch the videos. When I first posted, and this is encouragement to anyone who's just starting, like, when I first posted my, you know, for a second, third video, they had about 10 views each for like the weeks that they were out. And then finally, like, happy healthy being shared one. It got 300 views. Oh, it was them? Yeah, they shared on their Facebook. Oh. And it got 300 views, and I was like, oh my God. Shout out to Ryan. I'm doing this now, because I had actually resigned to just having it in my personal video journal. This is back when shout outs were actually effective. Yeah, I know. Yeah, that's all the algorithm. Yeah, exactly. It's chaos. Amazing. So is there anything like in terms of your way of activism or your way of promotive veganism, how has that changed throughout the years? Like when you start YouTube, did you have a different approach to how you talk to people about it? Honestly, I feel like it's exactly the same. Oh, yeah. It's just kind of my personality of like having fun with it, getting to the information. You certainly look like somebody that has a lot of fun. Maybe persuade some people. It depends. I try to, yeah, I always try to like think about who I'm talking to, and I don't think that's really changed. I'm just the same, I guess. Amazing. So what are your go-to sources for information? Because you have such knowledge for the scientific and nutritional side of things. What are your go-to, like when you're going to do research for a video or something, what are the go-to sources? Well, everybody knows that I always watch all the Dr. Greger videos, nutrition facts. Yes, Dr. Greger, nutrition facts. Oh look, big fan, of course, you're a big fan as well. The truth can be right in front of your face, a completely sick-looking man. I almost said old man, but that's not true. Greger has run about 46 years old. Then you have Mike the Vegan in his 30s, I presume. You all look absolutely degenerated, and that's not an insult. That's a fact. Anybody that hasn't the vegan goggles on can see this. That's absolutely saddening to see how malnourished you guys look like. Dr. Greger, or you, to celebrate you as those iconic superstars, the truth holders in that community just shows how delusional you are. Now that Greger's covered, I have to have at least a study in there that he has not posted on that topic. That's my goal. And thankfully, some of them are a few years older, so I can just find newer studies on it. Yeah, you have to find a study. This is exactly what you guys do. This is basically you admitting what you try to do there. You try to trump each other. You try to prove your point with finding studies. You can always find a study to prove your point. However, if that study is not replicable, then you didn't prove anything. And this is what we see in the vegan community over and over and over again. There's one study, and it says this. Great, fantastic. However, it is not replicable. It happened once, and that's all there is to it. Now, you're going to try to trump the holy Greger by posting yet again one more study. Ridiculous. Glean all the information I can. I'll do the searches through the new studies that came out, pub meds sometimes. Although, honestly, now it's funny. I've trained my Google search to become a study finding machine. So it kind of knows, because I got on someone else's Google. So cringy. That's what I didn't normally do. I was like, study endometriosis, vegan diet, or something. And it was weird. I'm not getting any results I want. And then I went back to mine. It was like, boom. It gives me five or six, because it knows I want to go to pub med and knows I want to do all these things. And so you have to train your dragon. Yeah, for sure. And motorized dragon. That's amazing. It's so signatory to see, honestly. So you're sitting in front of the computer, and you're trying to find one more study to prove your point. Meanwhile, you're sitting there with eye bags dark as the ones from Lord Voldemort. That's amazing. So yeah, nutrition facts or huge fan huge fan. So I know all of the studies, all the videos you've done throughout the years. What would be your main tips for someone who's looking to either go vegan or who is already vegan who wants to optimize their health? Like what is like a couple of these main things that you want to honestly, why do you even want to make people vegan at this spot? I don't get it. Really. Why do you want to? I eat predominantly carnivore. I couldn't care less if you eat carnivore or not. Get across because what I, you know, I'm trying not to talk too much about it, but we all know how some influencers have blamed the vegan diet for, you know, really helping my stuff and their libido especially. And exactly. Did you see the jaw? What is going on there, man? You're completely psyched out on adrenaline. There are a couple of options here. Either you're an Adderall or you're on speed or you're vegan. So, you know, what first? What can people do to optimize their diet? And then maybe we can touch on why you think people, you know, fail on it. Starving. I think Starving. Well, first of all, everyone has their own limitations of what they can do and what they can't do. And there are people who are probably just going to fail on a matter of what they do. Like I hate to say it. No, they're probably going to fail no matter what they do. And, you know, do some batch cook. But not us vegists. Clean out their diet at home. And that can actually be good because maybe clean up your diet from all the toxic plants. That would be good. You know, have a cleaner diet at home. But then still make sure you get the nutrients. So it's always just pop a couple of days on. Make sure you get all the nutrients. How will you? How will you get all the nutrients? If you're vegan? That is an oxymoron. You can't. Please just make sure you get enough calories. Make sure you're getting enough of those things. And then why not? Maybe if you're really paranoid about some weird brain fog or some, some, I don't know, maybe if you're paranoid of some brain fog. Because everybody that talked about brain fog is lying, right? That's a narrative in the vegan cult. Typical cult mentality. By now we have thousands of people coming out and saying that they experienced brain fog on a vegan diet. I mean, you see the goji man's and the other vegan YouTubers that need one billion jump cuts to get through one video. However, Mike, the vegan will tell you, you're just paranoid. Just paranoid. Just say take DHA. Some say don't. But at least get. You personally take it. I take it occasionally. Okay. Yeah. Very sporadically. Just trying to make sure it's like in my system at certain points. But then I try to make sure it's in your system. Make sure all the solvents are in your system as well. Check out my first Beyond Veganism podcast with Bart Kay where we talked about the extraction method of DHA algae oil. And you'll be surprised to make sure I have those omega-3s in the ALA as the pre-cursor in enough of an amount that it does the job, loads the inflammation. Nice. Nice. That's how I roll. Yeah, that's how I roll. That's how you roll. You basically eat more omega-6s than 3s by default because you're choosing plants. Plant oils are very inflammatory. That's how you roll. So would you say that calorie restriction is like one of the biggest things you see people doing wrong? I think emotionally. I think a lot of these people are emotionally quitting. Emotionally quitting. Do you have it in you? Can you do one more vegan rep? Can you do one more vegan set? Can you do one more vegan year? Can you do it? You're quitting emotionally, you pussy. Yeah, before they're quitting for any real reason. Yeah, and it's a lot of times it's calorie restriction or it's either calorie restriction, ongoing calorie restriction or ongoing just like psychological or like social isolation. Those are the two things that it's more than any one nutrient that's happening. So I'm just going to say something to say something. And essentially I'm saying nothing but listen to me. I'm like the vegan. I do it. Yeah, so just to touch on those nervous teeth, you know, just this kind of junkie junkie. You know, I feel like it's dying down a little bit now, but I hope but it seems like carnival movement is dying right now. I hope I certainly hope. Okay, let me check. You can certainly hope that the trend dies off. However, you can see since 2018, we have a steady progression. The carnival diet is still highly searched, highly researched and veganism is dying off slowly. So again, the vegans are twisting the reality of things in real life. Veganism is dying off. Your trend is not growing at all. Like a lot of these people have the same arguments against veganism and you know, that it's a globalist agenda or you know, agenda 21 or whatever they call it. And there's a lot of conspiracy theories. Is that the 21 Day Challenge? The vegan one? 21 Day Vegan Challenge. Making the connections. It's all connected. Yeah, so what like, what can you say to people who have kind of like Junkie. Not been brainwashed, but been kind of somehow they were sent the videos to carnival channels like doctors like Sean Baker or Bart Kay or whatever. What would you say to people who are, you know, listening to them but then also John, you're an absolute denial. They've been sent those links to those guys, right? How can they get out of it again? How can they return to the Church of Veganism? How can they? You know exactly that Bart Kay and Sean Baker do great work. They do great objective work and predominantly both of those guys agree that they are against processed foods. It's not so much about the vegan agenda. You try to put everything into one basket there. It's not about the conspiracy theories. Much more, it is against the processed shit foods that veganism led to. Because if you look into the success of veganism, you will see that your biggest success was to create beyond burgers, impossible burgers and cater that shit to fast food restaurants. Other than that globally, we're eating more meat. And to vegans to try to find out what the right, you know, kind of answer is like, what would you kind of recommend people to how to think about this whole thing? Because it's like two different extremes. At least you're admitting that it is an extreme. Two very opposite things. But at the same time, you know, there is a big difference in, you know, the amount of reasons. Yeah, what is the difference, John? People who are kind of on the fence and looking at both sides to go about it. Well, if you're looking at the body of vegan research versus the body of carnivore research, you're looking at like a Bible length document, like the Old Testament versus a trifold that you pick up like on a table. It's like there's no research on the carnivore diet pretty much. Oh yeah, of course, sure. So then show me exact, exact studies that have been conducted only on vegan populations. You won't find anything. The science that you are referring to is plant-based at best. Of course, that is highly debatable again and that would be too long for this video. We can go into that in another one. However, you know exactly that those populations that you're talking about are plant-based at best. They're still consuming animal foods. Now, I will give you that. I will admit that on the carnivore diet there is much more research yet to be conducted. Of course. Oh, there's Facebook groups with some anecdotes and they're so great. And yeah, maybe if somebody drops dairy, that's dairy allergy and these things and drops sugar, there's going to be things that get better. But looking at the system long-term and looking at what happens with the arteries and all these things, there's just no reason to believe it. What happened with the arteries? Tell us, what happens with the arteries? If you look at the carbon scan of Sean Baker or at Dr. Berks, for example, just more anecdotes, I know, however, you will see zero calcification. So what exactly happens there? What happens when you have no sugar in your diet and you're eating predominantly animal fats? Will you get calcification? Your arteries respond to inflammation. That is the calcification in your arteries. That won't happen if you do not eat sugars. That's another low carb diet. And low carb diets from the meta analysis are 30% increased to all-cosmortality. There's no reason to believe there's some magical thing about it. I mean, they probably argue differently, but I disagree. 100%. I'm the authority to listen to me. How do you see the vegan movement moving forward? You've been vegan for eight years. I mean, let's face it, right? Without going too deep into the science, as I said, this is just a response video, a little reaction video. However, you are comparing two diets, one diet being totally nutritionally deficient, needs supplementation, right? Has no bioavailable DHA, EPA, B12, D3, so on and so forth. And the other diet does. The other diet on top has no processed foods and no sugars. Which diet is better? I need a study. How do you see the vegan movement moving forward? You've been vegan for eight years. You certainly look like somebody that has been vegan for eight years. End stage veganism. How is it evolving from now? How is it changing? Okay, well, yeah, we're looking at a, I think it's good things are happening. I mean, we, you know, if you're looking at the YouTube, for example, we had like a little peak of interest, but I think that's cause it was something new and it's sort of chilled out a little bit. But if you look at total Google trends that are still going up. No, it's dying out essentially. It's dying out. The last year especially, it was very, very detrimental to veganism. Pretty much everybody dropped out. Raw Lyman, Raw Vana, Tim Sheeve, Vegetable Police and many, many more. Like web trends globally are still going up and that's more cause, you know, YouTube can become a little bit of a microcosm. But I do want more people to get out there and create more YouTube channels, create more content. If you're watching or listening, please just get on it. It's worth it. Yeah, do it and why not? And learn editing. Worst thing that happens is you learn how to edit and produce videos. It's like, oh no. Yeah, people pay to do that. But then in the future, I think it's really interesting with having things coming out like a lab-grown meat. Yes, exactly. So as I just said, the only progress that you have, the only win for the vegan community is the process junk food and the lab-grown meat. People understand that veganism does not work. People won't get convinced by your vegan ideology. So therefore you will try to sell them fake meat. You will try to sell them absolute Frankenstein meat. That is the vegan movement. That is the end game here. And you, John admitted as well that you are interested in lab-grown meat. Of course, you cannot crave something that you never tried. So therefore you just admitted indirectly that you are craving meat. You guys are pushing and this is the real conspiracy here. You're pushing those big companies to create more fake products, more processed shit foods instead of eating whole foods. That's the vegan movement for you. Gonna be hitting more and more. And so it's, you know, ethically. Yeah, sure. Ethically. Fantastic. How do you create lab-grown meat? You need to feed it something, right? But ethically better. Okay. A little excursion here. So as for right now, to create lab-grown meat, you need bovine growth serum. How do you get that? You need to get that out of a calf's fetus, of a little cow fetus. Okay. Because the quality is lowered of the bovine growth serum if you would give that fetus anesthesia, you have to extract it whilst it's fully conscious. As conscious as a fetus can be, of course. You have to ram a huge syringe into the heart of that little fetus and extract the bovine growth serum. Of course, you will have to kill the cow as well before that, right? Now you extract that and now you're growing lab-grown meat. Super ethical. Now you need to feed those muscle cells. How do you do that? With corn, with soy, with pea protein isolates. You need to feed them. So at best, if you would get a one-to-one conversion rate, which is highly unlikely, probably you would get something on the lines of 0.8, 0.7 conversion rate of plant protein to muscle meat. How is that more sustainable? How is that more ethical? Meanwhile, if you would have predominantly grass-fed cows that are supplemented with some grain, you will get a much higher protein yield because cows are able to convert grass into bioavailable proteins for us humans. It is absolutely ridiculous. It is a pipe dream, but this is the best that vegans can come up with. Major restaurants is totally changing the game. For sure. It's just more mainstream in general, right? Yeah, interesting. When it's no longer the new thing, and that's what you saw on YouTube, it was no longer the new thing, but even though more people are doing it, it was like, oh, like, it's not as exciting. No, not more people are doing it. For every vegan that comes into the cult, you have four people dropping out. So therefore it stays all the same all the time. There is no growth to your shit moving. To watch. You know, you only need to watch a few what-I-eat-in-a-day videos before you know what to eat in a day. Oh, yeah? Strange. I've been vegan for four years. I know many people that have been vegan up to 15 years, and they still didn't figure out what to eat in a day because it doesn't work. So that's the new vegans that watched all those videos. And a lot of you. Look at this little junkie. I've heard a lot of people economy is like, oh, yeah, I love watching channel so much when I first went vegan. I'm like, why don't you watch it anymore? Yeah. And why don't you watch me more? Yeah. Why don't you watch me? And so it's hard. So I'm trying to like cater to long term vegans cater to new vegans. Of course. And so it's hard. I mean, you can't predict. That's what you have to do. That is essentially like the niche that goji boy, berry boy found. You're going to just cater to the sick people that have issues due to your diet. They've got issues due to your diet. And I'm going to fix you. Never going to happen. So therefore stay subscribed one day. We will is I'm hoping to see major guideline changes that will shift people in that direction. You know, like Canada. Amazing. Yeah. Amazing. Amazing. So that's absolutely the Canada social issue where you have the social barrier going vegan. That's that's what I'm hoping for. Because then it'll just the dam will be broken. 100%. Yeah. Like the last question I want to ask you how honestly John, come on, man. I'm not talking to you as a vegan now. I'm talking to you as a party somebody that's into fitness. You know exactly that that's Canada. Food guard is absolute crap. It's just carbs. Just grains that shit will give you diarrhea will make you bloated will give you zero gains and it's not healthy. You know that like the last question I want to ask you how do you see yourself like in terms of your actual job like YouTube? Do you see yourself doing YouTube for a very long time where social media in general like spray? That's a funny thing. Do you see yourself venturing? What's a real funny thing is that everybody that is long enough on a vegan diet gets the soy voice. That's that's a concern because a lot of it is, you know, a lot of YouTubers burn hot and then they burn out and then it's done. And so my goal is to be like very piecemeal about it. One video week, not doing three and burning myself out most of the time and just keeping it going because I'd want to keep doing it for as long as possible. What keeps you going? A lot of it is just like the messages I get of people who are versus these are some people I met here like a woman who reversed her hypothyroidism. I just talked to him like, Oh my gosh, that's amazing. Right. People just feeling fantastic. Such a philanthropist. Love it. The latest I just talked to amazing just left and right got a message of someone just posted on Instagram like a few days ago. They're cholesterol drop by 100 points after, you know, why is that a good thing? Because Ansel Key said so. Doing it. So things like that are major major for me to keep going and it just helps for me to get enough of my chill time and relaxation and then I can just like crank it out and do that. Yeah. Well, I mean, you are one of the biggest influencers in the vegan space and hopefully it just keeps going and look at the job. Congratulations on all your stuff so far. It's been amazing to follow your journey. Jesus Christ. And hopefully we get to make more of these podcasts or videos together. So we can do like a long distance one if it's not too hard. Yeah. How fun is this camp out though? It's really good. Yeah. I mean, I didn't really like sleep last night because there was so much noise because everyone's had it too good of a time. But other than that, like just all the awesome food and awesome people. Where else you get 7,000 vegans camping together? Yeah. Staying awake on that sugar rush. Massive strip of food options. Like it's just what is it? Like 30 or 40? Have you had anything good yet? I had a good curry. There was like a Tali, which is like a large Indian food and a bunch of like curry and all and stuff on it. That was really good. I had a sushi burrito, which was really good. Sushi with no raw fish. Sounds amazing. I do because we've been traveling around. Like it's not even a question at this point. Well, Mike, it's been a pleasure. Thank you so much for. All right. Swab off my sweaty hands. YouTube channel, Instagram. Links will be in the description box. If you're watching this on YouTube and listening. Okay. That was hard to watch. Now I'm going to blend in a color graded corrected version. So this is what it probably looks like. This video has been color graded, of course. And you can see that it looks much, much worse than Mike the vegans usual videos. So it looks absolutely terrible. Once you see him in real life in person and not in his studio. It's absolutely horrific to watch. Absolutely saddening. As I've said many, many times on this channel, every time I start reacting to those videos in the beginning, it's always a lot of fun. However, after a while, you can't help but feel compassion and be empathetic towards those people because it is just saddening. It is like making fun at people that are starving. And that is of course not funny at all. Be it Dr. Greger, be it Mike the Vegan, you name it. They look absolutely terrible. As I've said, you can't really tell if this guy is a vegan or a crack junkie, a speed junkie. Absolutely spaced out. Absolutely methed out and whatnot. Really, really terrible. He has those dark circles under his eyes. By no means a healthy individual. You don't need a scientist to tell you. Alright guys, that's it for today's video. If you liked it, leave it a thumbs up. If you haven't subscribed already, please do so. If you want to support the channel, all the links are in the description box below. Links for merchandise, Patreon links, subscribe star links, Amazon links as well, where you can support the channel simply by shopping on Amazon. There is no extra cost for you. But that's it for today. As always, much love and peace.