 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Started. No additions or reports? No. OK. Reports? I don't have anything to add to my report unless you have any questions. Is it junior item? OK. Is it very good? I have nothing further to add to my report. Any other questions? I'll be going over it in a couple of days. OK. Let's go on. Um... Nope, I don't have anything to add. OK. Jerry's around here. Josh? I don't have anything extra. OK. Moving on to the consent agenda. Um... Are there any discussion on any of the items there? Move to approve. OK. Move. Move seconds. Is there any discussion? OK. Um... I'll go over. Say aye. Aye. Aye. OK. Old and new business. Um... Jessica is here with Barney and Associates. Um... They are the ones that conduct our outside audit. That you not only have the KSDE audit, I determine as far as our funds, but we also have Barney and Associates as the outside audit group to come in and check you all of our information. And we've worked your thing. She assures that our books are correct. And I'd like her to go through anything. Reaction passes out later. OK. Here, welcome. Thanks, Jessica. That's OK. I'm just going to give you the... Yeah. OK. Yeah. Um... Yeah. So, um... Like I said, my name is Jessica. I'm from Barney and Associates. And this is my third year doing this for the first. So, um... A lot of familiar faces, kind of. And, um... I actually didn't come out on field work this year. I just did the review of the audit work papers we had here all over our lead to job. And then Amy Albert, which is a new staff, was going to come out. And everything went very smoothly. So that's a testament to your staff and to Brad and everybody who helped us out. So it went very smoothly. Right off the bat, I'm just going to say no issues. It's a very boring report. We have no recommendations, no findings. So that's great. I'll kind of just do a quick overview. But please stop me if you have questions. And Brad, you can go up in if you want to highlight anything. But you think they might want to know. I will start with the three-page letter that I handed out. And this is our letter to you, the board. And this will highlight anything significant that we feel like we want to communicate to you based on our audit procedures. So if there were any changes in accounting policies, any recommendations, we have anything, any misstatements that we felt like you needed to know, that's where this would highlight those. However, like I said earlier, we didn't have any of those to discuss this year. And you will note on, I think it's the second page, we did not identify any fraud or any potential fraud. So we always want to make that known based on our procedures that we did. Any questions on that? For the audit report itself, again, it's pretty similar to last year. There are a few things that I kind of want to point out that will be different. Page one, this is your independent audit report. And this just states that these are your financial statements and this is what management provided to us. Like I said earlier, we have no significant statements or anything that we needed to adjust. So everything that you see in this audit report are the numbers that your management provided to us. And then what we simply provide an opinion on those numbers that we were given. You do pass a GAP waiver every year and so you'll see at the top of page two there is an adverse opinion on GAP. However, the next paragraph below, the financial statement referred to above presents fairly in all material respects the aggregate cash and unencumbered cash balance of the district in accordance with the KMAG model, which is what you report under. So that's a clean opinion, the highest opinion that you can. So the next page takes three is your statement one and this is your actual financial statement. It will have all of your funds listed as well as the beginning cash, your cash with these expenditures and ND. There wasn't a lot of significant changes this year. The cash did go down a little bit. Mostly that was in the bond and interest fund just based on those tax revenues being less this year as that bond's getting paid off. And then I will point out if you'll notice the federal funds is a negative there and that is typical all school districts this year based on the most of its asset funding. So those were extended during the year. However, you didn't get those receipts until the 21-22 year. But that's not a budget violation or a cash violation. There is an exception for federal funds due to those reimbursements. Any questions on that? And following that is your notes to the financial statement. Most of these are pretty similar to the prior year. There are a couple I want to point out that we had the ads that were made this year. I don't know if I can find the page. Page 11, notes 13 and 14. These are two required notes that we had to add this year for all municipalities and campuses. They had to have these notes. The first one, COVID-19. This is a very general note. It has nothing specific to the district. It just explains that there was a COVID-19 pandemic and sometimes there's uncertainty about how it's going to financially affect the district. No 14 has specifically discussed the parks funding that the district received from the county. And so it just states that you receive approximately $209,000 from the county for parks. Here's your federal fund. And these are the lists out all of your budgeted funds, the amount of the budget and then the amount of expenditures and then the variance on the right-hand side. Again, if you look at all the funds from your budget except the federal funds, and again, this is not a budget violation, this is due basically to the parks funding is a big portion of that because those were unexpected funds. So you were allowed to expand them, but you didn't know the budget for them. And then the same with the SR. So that's really what's affecting that. But again, no issue there. Then following that, it's going to go through each individual fund, your federal dues. And it has the details of the line items that are related to your statement one. Total's there. So if there's any specific funds we want you to go through, I can do that. And then following that is your agency and your district activity in the back. And we are available at any time. And so if you do have any questions or an email us, we'll be able to do that at any time as well. So, I'm sure everyone's right. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks, Jessica. I appreciate your help. One thing I would say that again, just she mentioned it, but Cheryl in the office and the secretaries and everybody can put all this together. It's a lot of work. I mean, you're seeing obviously the finished product, but the boxes that were in here and going through everything and ensuring with our budgets. So, very thankful for them. They did a great job. They reflected in the audit. Is there any discussion? No, next job. We like boring things. Isn't that boring? That's fine. All right. Moving on now to three. S or three plan. The S or three monies that we have available. We would like to that's included in your packet there. All the information about that basically the fact that we would like to put the money into retention $500 a year retention bonus for the next three fiscal years and then 3% premium pay to offset and help our budget as far as our general fund and be able to have that already included in the monies. And it outlines within the plan how and why we need it according to our data and the things that are specific to our school districts. So that's all included within that. Then the other piece of it is is that we would then upon approval then we would put out this retention pay incentive to our teachers and staff so that they can expect what's going to be happening. Again it would be as it says all these retention of premium pay proposes us a subject to approval of the Essert grant applications. So if we don't get the application they won't be receiving that. And we can anticipate that we'll probably go back and forth with them about it. It's all in language. It truly is. You talk to some and they're like the money is there for you to use you should be able to use it however you want to. If you want to spend it all on buses you can do it. That's really not within the premise of it. And for us again we would rather invest with people then in things and the other thing as I said it helps our budget to be able to provide that because we know we have that particular monies. As we move forward with it then that would be through 2024 and we have spent almost all of our Essert too correct? I think by the end of the year it won't. And one of the things that happens is you have spend monies that are earmarked in your Essert funds and those spend monies then they tell us how they're going to use it and they're going to use it for a similar type of thing with retention and bonus and what to do with the staff people. And as we've done before and appreciative of the board support everybody receives it not just certain monies and there is a factor if you work 50% of the time etc. you wouldn't get the same as far as the amounts but it'd be that for all classified and licensed staff people. So I think that that's important because everybody's involved in it and has been involved and continues to be involved in it and so that's a purpose in it so that's if the board approves it we'll move forward and pilot this week with the staff and then it has to go through a process there's a vetting process, there's a committee then another committee will look at it, we'll probably have somebody like we had in the past on a lawyer contact us to work from KSC questions about it and then as we move forward then it goes to the final approval of the state board of education and they then approve those plans and then we can start dispersing So it'd be a $500 bonus and then 30% per year? Correct. 5% and it's again language, retention bonus and then premium pay and it depends on who you talk to and they'll say don't say that, they said that and then the other ones you look online to see what the ones that have to approve it's exact language so as I said we'll work through after we get it approved and get it in there and I'm sure they'll have questions Is that a plan for approval? Okay. Is there a second end? Any discussion on that? All in favor say aye. Aye. Thank you. How's the COVID update? Changes pretty regularly here recently but we're around 25 to 30% absences that may or may not be COVID related but total do we have a number of absences that we know not necessarily we don't feel like we need or should be locked into that because that creates some issues we're, as you guys know in a bit given you information about what we did in regards to Thursday and Friday last week with the junior high which has had no positives since then and then the maybe a little elementary that's having some more come up positive but those, we took those two days off in a short quarantine again we're almost exclusively finding that it is not from in the school and from the quarantines of kids testing and quarantine the program we started believed and continued to believe it's doing what it's supposed to do because it's keeping kids in school and in activities however it's become so cumbersome and so much we're around to test entire schools and things that the idea that initially to not have that misinstructional time or miss an instructional time and so that's counterproductive to what our program is and so again looking at our data our data is showing those that are quarantined and that are coming back positives spread throughout families, weekends social gatherings that kind of thing and so then we're going to meet tomorrow administration is going to meet with Ray Ray's open to changing some of the things particularly with close contact and the definition of close contact the hope would be that the close contact is if I live with or take care of somebody that's COVID positive then that reciprocates a close contact because what happens is when we report a positive to the county then we gather okay we were all in the same room well then try to figure out are they close contact within 10 feet or excuse me 6 feet for 10 minutes and that's hard to do and they're trying because according to a policy everybody's close contact until determined by the county and that's very difficult for them because they're going to know we're not at school and on top of we got sheets of these sites and the thing that frustrates people are the fact that we're all three together I get COVID so you guys are close contacts that's quarantine next week you get it so then go I quarantine again too and she does too and so then we'll add to work two to four weeks of testing and so the redundancy of the program is not doing as I said what we are asking it to do but we will continue to do that in the best efforts and Sharman has done a great job she's been very and it's been very good in a sense too that we have increases because people trust her and so people now are coming forward to her hey we'd like to get tested we'd like her kids to get tested we'd like to ensure so that's a positive so that's been a good thing from that perspective but just want to give you a little bit about what's going on and like I said I provided you the emails as much as possible so that you're aware of what's happening I'm very thankful for our relationship with Ray and County Health Department it's been very good if you listen to others it's not that way at all it's ugly and so and just as an FYI the lunch day group is here today in town second, not secretary Senate member Brenda Dietrich and Jeff Longbite from Emporia Dietrich from Topeka and Haswell-Bunsett County a little bit of Empunsett County and then representative violence they all agreed and to the fact that local control and don't want to be dictated from the state level as far as what's happening with schools so appreciate that it's listed as an action item or is it just a discussion item any questions? I think there's enough action in it yeah thank you it takes a lot I'm sure I'll do that okay any discussion on that okay we'll go over to selecting energy solutions professionals request for proposal as we go through this process and yes it has been a long tedious process we started on this in 2018 just FYI when we started to train in with the other Snyder Electric and those groups but long story short the FCIP group that we were going to pay $16,000 to oversee to ensure that our savings were taking place through Kansas State said that they don't want to be involved and the reason that they don't was I think they're overwhelmed with all the ones that they have and had timing because I was pushing we're ready to go we've got taken care of they've answered all your questions we need to be moving on this winter's coming and opportunity with the air handling units being to help with COVID and every other thing and to have those plasma scrubbers on there and also with the increase in energy cost for us to start reaping the benefits of having efficient equipment and so long story short they let us view the high school gym over here and that's been taken care of and it's been really good and they follow through with what they needed to do and met with the well two times one FCIP would take care of the RFQ's and RFPs all that we had to do then since they did away with it we had to come back and redo it so it was listed in the paper again and asked for people in contact couple of groups about it and energy solutions professionals were the only ones that actually had a request for proposal so they're the ones that we've been working with they are the only ones to complete the request for proposals within the contract it will be written because in conversations with them look we're in to go on and so we want to guarantee the 10 years that these people are going to because they're not going to see or know how they're going to look and it's guaranteed it will always be guaranteed it's in writing and if it isn't then they will write us a check for the difference so how will that be tracked by? by them and by us yeah that's a great question that's a lot of I know that there's been issues in the past with other entities and that then it's not tracked and that's when it happens exactly I hate that stuff exactly there's a lot to be diligent that's for sure you're tracking it by utility costs yes monthly and what they guarantee is 43,000, 40 something 1,000 a month difference that will pay for the equipment that that is guaranteed and I just want to point out too everything that the FCIP asked them to do in adjustments into their proposal they've done it all prior to submitting it to us so it's all been checked to ensure so are we are you looking to approve their proposal I would do this I second any discussion on that just a quick clarification on the list of items that they're completing that includes that looks like replacements and retrofits for elementary junior high toxic co-middle director of commission the high school and that's it, correct? correct and the thought process is dependent on when we were going through this not knowing what was going to happen with the bond and if a school is going to be open or not and so the other piece you can at any point in time add in other entities so let's say you passed the bond or didn't then with that if you wanted to add maybe a little elementary lighting you can and it all goes into the same type of process the same works for taking away so if there's something included currently would that come out? well the equipment's already in place and so you can move the equipment to places that you need it all in favor of accepting the proposal from energy solutions professionals say aye those say nine thank you next item is discussion item is the 22-23 school calendar same number of contract days put it through end contact and talk to negotiations the negotiating committee about it and they agree to it there's some things that we're going to look at possibly in the future that may change some things with professional development whether with those four or three day weekends the possibility of instead of individualized PD that we actually have for instance MTSS multi-tiered systems to support professional development days but right now we have not done anything with that and I see I messed up on that too I should have been the reverse of that I should have been the other one the discussion this one should be an action and there was no end from this no what? there was no end that could either maybe heal now from the calendar committee that put this together that could be changed like it was this past year that's what they want everybody wants that and it seems like a small thing that's easy that's easy but and then it would go a long way for a piece of it it's not tough enough for the knowledge is there a date for a homecoming? I don't know not now not now that could just be changed correct it can be it was taken away from it was promised to them this year and then it was changed back and they were fed because sometimes people remember when people make promises and they take notes so they had to go back and give it to them so I realize maybe there's no date for it but it's easy to suit to make sure I'm making a fuss about it so it's discussed and we say oh yeah we'll change it at the time and it becomes what a day it is in September or October oh no that's you're going to take the kids that's all I'm saying it needs to be discussed so it can be done next year is that like hours for other schools for students the KSTE you count the hours and the one that has the least amount that's what you have to use and presently it's the junior high because they have more no excuse me have less total minutes per day than all the other buildings so would that have a change on our minimum hours? not really I mean it's two hours whatever so it wouldn't necessarily have the entire district have to be affected by that I think it's 404 minutes for the junior high and everybody else is 410 something like that something like that or 402 yeah and I was the one that told them at a faculty meeting and I followed through with my word correct? after much but that's what they would say come on hand wringing oh yeah there may have been hand wringing but I followed through with my word they would say you had to call out to follow through that's fine now I know I'll have a carpet for a few things you may try I think it's a fine thing if they want the rest of the day off whatever it's an exciting time for our school to celebrate homecoming anyways so they want it to be great would you like to approve the calendar? go ahead would you like to approve the calendar with the addition of one o'clock for the elementary school I'm just going to say because really I don't think this is a board discussion at all I mean I had talked to Jan about it but it's not a board discussion but the way our homecoming works anyway so this year was not great it was not great for our football team to then go play at the ball game that night after homecoming day because it was 95 degrees and standing on asphalt anyway that's not really a discussion for this group but if our schedule were to change on how homecoming was handled I don't know whether or not that should be part of the board just that comment is my comment about it okay because if we don't do things the way we have done them before and we do them differently other school districts do them or might do them they might impact that day it's been moved all in favor say it guys all those at the same time to the bottom everything that I put together for the meetings and what the next steps I think whatever you're doing you need to put something out there so people are wondering what that's going on and that's all I heard as long as we know something's moving forward we're okay with that but if we don't then again what are you doing so you guys heard or any thoughts to say thank you for putting the other your notes for all the meeting that you went to and giving us an office of every meeting I thought that was helpful and nice took some extra time but I appreciate it I think our town halls showed exactly what everything else that we've done for the research over the last four years has shown so there's going to be a three way split I think it was important I agree and ask questions correct I've heard that people feel like we've had enough community community feedback enough letters out in the mail enough there's been enough so now I think it's time for the board to figure out how to get a majority for a decision and move forward I think that each individual board member's area has spoken so they're going to have to figure out a way to figure out what they want being us put something out there again I mean I've heard a lot that we have the information that's why I kept hearing we have enough information as a board we for those reasons so it was kind of it was mixed a little bit about whether or not people wanted us to wait till November or wanted us to move forward sooner an option thought that was interesting but yes it just feels very much like all the research is just as close as the opinions that I hear from people as far as do they want it split on it in one town how do we I guess this is just how do we have a discussion and try to come up with a consensus because I also feel like we're all pretty set fairly well in what we want so I don't know what the next steps are anybody have thought about this I just I think that you know some people have voiced their opinions about not wanting to go from bond so unless we build a brand new location and spend just million dollars but then even then we're still going to have to either have some type of maintenance reserve that we are diligent in putting money into every year and moving towards that we still are going to have additional bonds unless somebody gives us a bunch of money or I don't need a bunch of money I don't see that probably happen but I don't want to do just the cheapest bond possible in which to just get us by I'd like us to do improvements that's a sustainable solution for the next 20 to 30 years that we're not feeling like we're still have problems within our facilities or we don't have the right kind of right term that I want to use but the adequate facilities in which to teach in our classrooms I guess that we have the right sizes for the classrooms that we have the right facilities that we're not constantly having to fix things I want us to spend enough in order to get things and yeah I think as a board we have to compromise and come up with a solution that we can look forward to and see where that goes use the facilities that we have do the best that we can and and I'm not saying to do this because it would pass I'm saying we should do something that is I mean it has to pass otherwise we won't be able to put out bonds eventually we want that we want to pass you know it is difficult it is difficult to lay out our discipline and I think that it's a hard decision to pass so the bond to bond to bond issue that you just discussed I actually had a tax payer say that to me so I said can you help me understand what you mean by that and their feedback was more wrapped around $15-$20 million bond after $15-$20 million bond after $15-$20 million bond because I think all of us I mean whether you are a renter or a homeowner yourself you understand that general wear and tear on buildings over 30 years with 450 people at an item in a day obviously cause more wear and tear than probably a monthly budget that you could budget for that's why we refinance our homes and put rails on them that's why we refinance our house and do home equity loans for windows new carpet people use different modes of financing to improve their homes every 10-15-20 years and so when I brought that feedback back that was a case of $7-$8 million let's fix all the rules back up again but I'm getting tired of you hitting me where are we going to build this are we going to build a $60 million new school or what is the direction of the district give me a direction of the district that we can vote on and then 20 years down the road once that bond is paid for what's the next direction we also understand direction is going to move but if there is a general consensus of direction on this bond then 20 years I believe taxpayers understand there might need to be $8-$10 million at that time whatever construction prices might be 7,000 times looking forward to that I have no idea I just believe that the taxpayer understands there's going to be some general wear and tear that's going to need to be addressed every 20-25 years but I believe they're tired of the where are we going to build that type of that type of approach there is a broad with the condition of at least the one we did the assessment on when we had the structural engineer and look at those buildings and with that assessment being appropriate in terms of if there's no structural efficiencies are concerned with those buildings individuals feel as though if it's not in a situation where it needs to be condemned or needs to be prepared structurally then why is the school district doing that why would you put money towards kind of a sentiment what we did at the last bond why would we be looking at tariff scalability when we shouldn't have because we didn't do that we didn't have that structure in the theater coming ahead of time and we have to consolidate that sentiment unfortunately with the space that we have I think we can all agree hopefully that we need to consolidate at some level we can't operate out of all these buildings it's costing too much money from our operational budget and we have to consolidate now whether that means one building or two buildings whatever that is that is a direction to someone who would say I want a direction for the district I would say that's the direction the direction is we are consolidating and we're bringing it to a point of sustainability either one of the options that we were looking at we've discussed with people addresses that addresses the concern of sustainability so you can't say necessarily and we've talked about it at some of the meetings but you can't say one necessarily they're equally essentially sustainable if that's true why wasn't the last bomb because like I said what happened was we had citizens who felt why are you tearing down things that are good why are you tearing down things that are structurally sound I mean 20 years ago why didn't that bomb be sustainable didn't make it sustainable because there wasn't growth within the district if we would have saw an influx of growth our students I have to keep the district divided between Pax Code and Alma is just as sustainable as consolidating the district am I carrying it correctly so why would this be equal why would they be equal because you have to have the same costs that are attributed to those facilities even if they were across the street you have to have the same space the only difference that's the only difference and I see that as a benefit to our elementary kids because of the fact that they were able to have a large indoor space the difference isn't traveling teachers no I don't see that it's okay I wouldn't have that many traveling kids to divide it up between elementary and secondary I don't see that the difference is maintenance guys spending time on the road going back and forth I don't see that as a significant factor I think I think you're wrong the cost of someone to drive 10 minutes to negative people in terms of our overall finances the benefit of having everybody in one location what's the benefit I can tell you the benefit from the elementary teacher the meaning I went to they think it's beneficial to be in home and they gave me a list and one of the things is the high school kids they think it's positive that the high school kids can come and interact with all grades I mean they say that you can travel like that if they come over besides that on Friday the high school kids are involved in these kids as PE when they go over there I mean maybe you haven't got there yet but you're discounting or at least not saying the benefits when you say these solutions are equal that's just not accurate you're also coming at that from one elementary school's perspective because the other elementary school would say yes it's beneficial for all of us in elementary K through 6 to be together but I didn't hear that they needed to be next to the high school for that I didn't hear that they didn't know they didn't even know because but they travel over here for things they also come and hey you're talking about one perspective from the one school that you went to and I'm talking about my perspective from the school I went to and it wasn't about having the high schoolers they come over here they do think you're high schoolers so I don't think we should discount also what they have to say in favor of one elementary school what they have to say but we're talking about long term sustainability well but if you're basing long term sustainability with elementary schools is that sustainability or is that a desire that we'll want to have for the kids he wasn't going to bring up he just mentioned sustainability I wasn't talking to them can I ask a question if we're discussing sustainability and you go to a K through 12 facility where possible growth members that are moving to the area get to walk into a K through 12 facility and they get to see high school kids interacting with their elementary students and then they come to our school and we have to drive to Paxaco to show them our K through 6 and they don't get to see that here do they and beside that well I kind of like the interaction that that just happened there I'm going to pick the K 12 I don't think that plays into the microcurrent I think it does I do think it does but you did but I talked to I won't mention his name but he lives in western wabansi or northern wabansi county and he chose to take his kid he was a graduate up here and he has kids that would have been in every school and he said I've got five kids and I'm not putting them through that more so I'm not putting my wife through it because she's going to be the one that has to travel around all these schools to the kids' functions we're going to go to Omega that's only five kids but one parent I get it but they sell two different locations they have elementary school and a high school you're not resolving the issues we're all in one town what's a yaba do you explain what a yaba is it's ten minutes to ten minutes don't you think we're proving in this district it's ten minutes from Paxaco if we've done nothing else we've proven in this district that you shouldn't be in multiple towns if there's a lesson we've proven you shouldn't be split up we've proven that you shouldn't over over give I think I think we did that in the bond that passed the board over gave the board gave everybody a lesson if you have a room with five the board didn't pass it and you can turn them off individually and you're saying you're arguing with leaving two roles on versus one it's silly to keep talking about I don't know if it's necessarily wrong or wrong it's different for long-term sustainability I don't think it's necessarily wrong I mean other districts have two locations Brock Creek is in two or three locations they're huge though but their K-2-12 is not all in one location in other districts they purposely built that way I mean there would be two or three of those locations and that's how the ladies have been making decisions for decades I think two locations in many small districts are because they were in a situation we're in right now where they already had multiple schools, multiple towns everybody had their own one room schoolhouses and then they consolidated so that's that's not the stage I guess of real state development that we're in it's not well it kind of did they were at a point where they couldn't support their operating needs and so they had to consolidate what do you suggest we give to Paxaco on the next bond since they rejected the gift you all gave them on the last bond I don't know if I would consider it a gift I think it was a means to make the district sustainable I think it was a good solution I think there was when they passed, why didn't they take it it's never going to take a better offer than that and they still rejected it during the process that we went through in working on that bond there were a lot of polls that people saw admittedly, I saw them not knowing what to do with the closure of Ohio street the fact that there was there was fear it wasn't even in a bond that's how lack of information that you've dug into the last bond it wasn't even a part of the bond it was a possibility, it wasn't a part of the bond and here you are a board member that's supposed to know and you don't even know I'm saying it was a lot of general clarity you had a whole bunch of issues with people not knowing what was going to happen and besides that, they knew buildings were going to get torn down and they had a problem with that that's primarily the reason it probably didn't pass no, just to add about the buildings that you've torn down this is just a side note I've read some history here lately about how there was a school building and it was there for 40 years in Oklahoma and they tore down and they rebuilt a whole new building yes, they built that high school year, they had a building they had it for a few years and they tore down and built a whole new one so it just seemed interesting to me about that I'm not discounting people's feelings towards buildings like that I'm trying to read that and we're in a state now of not wanting to tear down buildings and that's the thing we should if the building is structurally sound however, that building has to be able to serve the needs that we need in our district to eat I don't want to have a building that well, we can add a whole bunch to it but we're going to have all this unused space that we can't really use because it doesn't really work and there are cinder block walls in there in order to make it fit the needs that we need for our students that are attending that school and so we still have this huge amount of unnecessary square footage so that's part of it for me too that I don't want us to then have that on that topic I had an individual contact me because I believe at our last board meeting people take our words so literally and we're trying to have a general discussion which makes general discussion harder because we're online which by the way I believe we are one of the only districts that still post our videos for our board meetings live I hear a lot of chatter that the surrounding districts don't do that so thanks Josh for getting that set up and allowing people the opportunity to hear us but anyway they had heard that well maybe the guy is really discussing doing a K-12 out in a centralized location and leaving the athletic facilities for now and then rebuilding once this bond was paid off and I said well if that was discussed I probably missed it and I wouldn't pay attention in a board meeting but their point to that is it's a 20 year old building travel around to anybody else that we play basketball against and find a nicer gym facility today but it's 20 years old go to Rock Creek the biggest school in the minis league and look at their facilities compared to our basketball it is night and day this is the nicest gym the taxpayers at the last bond passed to build that right here in Alma unknowingly in my opinion solidifying the fact that they voted the last bond down and I was a huge proponent of it voting it down I am back to a K-12 in Alma the facilities are here we're wasting money going anywhere else well we talked about operational savings well it's only $30,000 to $50,000 a year only in five years how much is that math guy I don't think it is $20,000 to $50,000 a year that's what was discussed that's what's on record $200,000 times 10 that's what we talked to every other district around us we talked to onega how many students did you lose how many students did you lose guess who is bigger than wabasi now they consolidated to a K-12 and they are now a bigger district than us with the fear of losing everybody that leaves we are talking about stepping over a dollar to pick up a dime maybe not maybe they won't but I saw the numbers you saw the numbers that were presented in terms of what we need to get that to pass are you afraid to put it to a vote am I afraid to put it to a vote are you afraid to let the taxpayers tell us no to a K-12 in Alma option I would not be a proponent of it are you afraid to let the voters vote because if they say no and slidify your answer then you've got it and the rest of us are like you're right Jim make an argument for a school in Mexico make an argument for a school in Mexico either what we have now or build in Mexico argue for it because I can't see one in a way that that would be something that someone could be a proponent and say this is a positive fear go for it it's a sustainable position where we have all of our K-6 in one location all of our 7-12 in one location we're situated literally like it's like 70 or 75% of the 2A school districts in the state of Kansas are situated that way that's how they operate I know if they can operate that way and be sustainable and have a capital outlay that takes care of roofs, HVACs for the future that's why it's sustainable we have school age there some staff are concerned that if we shut down the junior high and bring everybody over here then we don't have enough facilities as far as gyms are concerned so there's some of that we do have a building that's sustainable or not sustainable but that is structurally sound people really didn't want to see that go we did put money into it we've got the media center to just leave those two facilities that we went ahead and put a ton of money into at the last moment I struggle with that as well so what if we keep it get rid of the middle school and keep that so we can keep our gyms but operate out of here but then we're transporting kids to that time the argument is that we have everybody here so that we don't have to transport kids but then we have to transport kids does that say the bond that Donna and I have just talked to him seen him since we were in Maple Hill we build we build an extra gym here we build a couple classrooms here maybe we put some locker rooms on the other end of this building for football remodel your bag shop and you put roughs on this building that building for two million dollars and the whole thing is 15 million and that's probably 10% so this is option 72B I just made some notes on an option that's the one you maybe just said you didn't like but it's actually more than just maintenance if you build a gym and a few classrooms you might want a science class you're going to have to add some I just think it could be done and we'll pass and then you'd be all sad and everybody would have said it maybe wouldn't pass but most people realize where we're going we're going to consolidation might not be in two years might be in 25 years but we can waste money in the meantime you talk about most schools you said like you had a percentage like 70 some percent of two-way schools okay so can you go back and tell me when we passed our previous bond how many were we created I don't think so we were borderline we were borderline in 3A today we're not even close to 3A today so at that point in time how many 2A 3A school district operated out of three out of five buildings in three towns and was doing bonds at the time to update all five of those facilities can you tell me how many that was I'm going to say it's probably less than 1% 1% of these school districts in Kansas that were 2A 3A chose to pass a bond to update five different buildings across three towns so we were against all odds at that point in time but now all of a sudden you don't want to go against the odds and be different for Wabansi and do something that's different for us that makes us stand out against the local 2A competition it's what we are right we're a business that is running a business to recruit kids right and we want the best atmosphere that includes facilities teacher environment leadership programs accessibility to those programs right I mean that's we are a business running that right so what's wrong with making us look different than the rest of the 2As man it's cool this 2A over here there's a K-12 in one location if I go over there we're a K-12 in different locations there's 2A schools that are not K-12 okay but it's not the 72% we'd be going against the I mean you just stated a fact you acted like it was a fact like it was 72% of 2A schools from a sustainability standpoint I'm just saying I see that as sustainable so I'm just saying since we had that those are sustainable for a one location I'm not arguing that fact I think one location would also be sustainable but they're equally sustainable I think each of them have positives to them I know if you agree with that I don't see positives I don't see positives to have a school pex and I get to have anybody I don't see positives to have a school pex I'm a resident of Maple Hill and so and I know Justin since his kids in Maple Hill yeah and these teachers told me we have prompted Maple Hill for already too many decades and I know we were already just closing well I don't know that I wouldn't say enrollments and because of elementary we're not what they are now even when my kids were there it's dramatically changing so I wouldn't say we've propped up a couple of that I'll put my fingers at that comment but to your point about the benefit of the interaction of the elementary school children with the high schools kids I mean that is a big benefit I mean if you haven't had a child be part of that interaction either on either end it is a thing so if we're in two locations cannot not happen I don't know that it can't happen is it more difficult or yes making it less sustainable well making it more difficult I should say it's not easy to just walk together to go to elementary school so I don't know I think for us as a board we have to come to some compromise we're all not going to be happy in whatever option we choose but I think it's important for us to come up with something to move forward and I think actually I was hoping we were going to have something on the ballot by this last fall and that didn't work so I I was just going to say I think that spring would be my preference for a timey as opposed to next fall mostly because Brad is retiring and we wouldn't have we'd have a new administrator coming in and having that person have to try to figure out assistance for us to put forward and move on so that's Brad has all the knowledge that we've had over this discussion over the last couple of years so I think that for us you know if it goes past then we will try something else again and I I was just going to say but I do feel as far as Tommy and it would be best for us to try something that's for me I know that does cost our district money to do that I mean I think I would agree I heard some support for that to have a screen because the other thing is and I think we all know this is what summer hits everything all the communication yeah it's gone we're all busy everybody else is busy everybody's doing the things and nobody's thinking about the bond and then we come back in the fall and it's like I feel like we have to reinvent the wheel with what we're discussing all the momentum has just gone what would Tommy look like in the spring what would have to happen well if you remember you had to make it its decision at this board meeting to have an April meeting I believe that was correct January for May I'm sorry yes so May so we don't have it's the the process of getting all the language and everything that would happen in the interim between one board meeting to the next typically I'm just like typically I guess if there's not action taken tonight in January we come back to meet likely we would have to wait until then either a special board meeting or the meeting in February to formally approve the bond with the accepted language is that right? yeah you've got to go through it I've got all that information that's going to be written on what question is and etc etc and then it's got to go to the state board and you have to have approval for going above your ability 18.5% of whatever it is above if you have that going above that with your borrowing money it's got to be all those cents there's loops that basically take six months right for four months let's see December and then you're going to go for an April so January for every March April yeah four months I mean should we then um try to come to some consensus in which for us at least those members that are here I know that everyone's here this evening but that we could then I feel like we can't come into a board meeting to say okay we're going to approve it on that night and not already have some consensus ahead of time does that make sense to you? I feel like we've done that something before and it doesn't work very easily I don't know for us I don't know do we just try to decide if we're going to do a spring or a fall at this point? what does anybody against doing a spring one if we can anyone against a spring election? I'm against it because of the cops or because well I don't think we're together at all couldn't be farther apart I would say I got I sure these two don't show up when it came to time to hire superintendent but we really thought we'd be here and tell them we'd be back but they weren't even involved in this no no no I'm really saying we can make a decision tonight as far as a bond you think we can make a decision in January? no we're going to be seeing a lot of each other between now and then right? so maybe we can't we talk after we talk it's all part of the summer right I mean just like last year we did the spring thing and people had got surveyed they didn't realize they didn't have a survey they could do a spring so and that was at the end of school so I'm not going to believe it I think the one town hall they said we'd like to see one sooner than later so that's where I'm saying I would be finding the spring one but we're not going to get we're not going to get anything past the board quicker than that I mean honestly every time it comes up so then how do we get us to not be thinking do you vote for the K-12 in Elmo? well I'm not saying I know that but we're still we're still not this is what I'm talking about so how do we get us to a point where we can feel good like okay that might not be my favorite option but I can compromise and I can do that option and I appreciate that Kelly what I'm saying is I believe that our high school building is inadequate in today's environment to be technologically advanced enough to go 30 years into the future it might be structurally sound enough to do it but I don't believe it is functionally sound to do it but I'm willing to give and leave that building up and do a smaller bond but still here in Elmo that was some of my compromise I'll stop tearing buildings down because that was one of my ideas on the last one and it didn't work so I listened to my people and I'll say fine leave it up but move it down allow us to save more money and figure out the years in order to fix that aging building because in 30 years it's going to be 130 years old as I was trying you how things you would be willing to compromise what are your thoughts what would you be willing to compromise I saw a long compromise does not equal sustainability we've compromised for a long long time it doesn't work so if I am being asked what is the most sustainable that is everyone living in one town so am I willing to compromise on doing something in Mexico I think that's ridiculous do you think it's just spending on money in Mexico so does that answer your question I think it would just be nice for the board to be on the same page and I think that's what Kelly's getting at we could gel on the same page here's my compromise I would love for us to be on the same page what could the tax space I represent it's larger than everyone else put together and so my compromise is I'm not going to say no to everything like many of the voters out there they'll literally say that doesn't matter I don't want to vote no does it matter $100,000 per new year I'll vote no so the compromise is for me the $15 million bond it's the stuff we need and consolidates now you don't see that as a compromise because you still believe that it is equally sustainable to be in the tax and I don't believe that my compromise is a bond at all I know it's silly to these people I go back four years ago and you said that I don't believe we need a bond at all and you come a long way you know so yes that isn't a point my point is it would be great if we could all be on the same page and I'll be it would probably be a wrong decision then I don't know I don't know the bond that will pass the bond that the district needs that's absolutely true and you can say but it is true we've done it, we've proved it already it's not what the district needs yes, my preference is one location I'm glad I'm not in your position because of the layout of our district that's why it's difficult but you didn't make the decision to bring April Hill in next district no, that happened well before I think that everyone is a lot of people are worried about change or reluctant for change because that's different and I don't know oh my gosh, I'm going to put my kid on a bus and I'm going to travel on I-70 well, you know what my boys drive I-70 every day and I would rather them drive I-70 than many other roads because one, there's actually traffic on there and two, it gets cleared off when there's snow and they aren't going to end up in a ditch and then we'll see them for hours and if I don't have to be home we'll know that they aren't there so, you know, I I don't have necessarily a problem with that it's a longer drive yes, it is, but I think that as we have we've already improved our transportation around the district and things like that and if we're going to one location that can be all of those and I I would be willing to do some type of odd and I don't have the specifics of it of what all we need because I don't know what all we need to do, but we could we could try to do one that is all in one location because we have to consolidate I've done a lot of talking with a lot of people a lot of walking, a lot of driving and from your area from your area, Justin Tony's area, Tom's area people are really nice in our district, thankfully I didn't have anyone shut the door to me so although they didn't want to talk to me I tried to do more but I learned that people support our district I learned that people are very responsible with their money and they they want to be involved when a decision is made a financial decision like this where it affects them directly I learned things about the last bond related to why it didn't work but I think more importantly I learned from those that were very much against the last bond and I learned that things that they were opposed to are things that we can rectify and those things align with what the committee came forward to us with in August I did not get a lot of feedback a lot of feedback saying I don't care what you bring up I'm going to vote against it I've heard it from a couple of people because they just don't support our district and that's okay people have how people perceive this at the town houses may become sending my statement is exactly what you're talking about the entire conversation you had about sending so I don't know but you should probably call Jeff you just said I'm just saying they don't they don't support our district they're going to be like I thought that maybe listen to you now I'm just no for the next 50 years that's it I'm going to say that they don't need that thing to us they take taxes and I understand that I appreciate that but even those people didn't slander go on they accepted the end we talked about the concerns that we had from an operations standpoint they understood those things they voiced that they still was not support they saw other ways in which the district could potentially try to resolve those district issues but personally those were not long-term solutions what they were bringing forward in terms of diversity so I guess what I'm saying is I see a path that is widely supported within the district because it addresses primary concerns that the last bond did not necessarily to the fault of the board but just as a result of their own personal feeling that there were specific reasons why individuals don't know and a lot of that is actually riveted by what was brought forward by the facilities committee I think an all-in-one ALMA would create a large amount of for lack of better sense riots in the streets I think there would be a large amount of people and I think it would fail terribly and not that that's the problem the big problem is that tears up our district and that's not what we're supposed to do as a board we're a unified school district we're supposed to unify we're supposed to try to acquire as many students as possible and when you're tearing apart individuals based upon their own ideologies that's not the focus of the district we're supposed to bring people together what's the difference and what the board is supposed to do that's probably why we disagree which is fine I mean what's an iron sharpens iron I just believe that we are supposed to direct the district in the most efficient and economical manner to get as much money in the classroom as possible and I think both options one does it a little better than the other but that's that's an opinion and that's okay, right? that's what we're here to discuss is people's differing opinions but you have to admit that that's an opinion that it's not enough the fact is that it does say the opinion of yours is that it's not enough that's okay that's your opinion that you have gotten off of biased meetings that you will go around in your area don't say it's biased from someone it's biased because of you they're being nice they're being nice to you they have to be because I'm getting the same information that says we support a K-12 an ALMA and I don't appreciate the fact that I voted you in the last time four years ago and you went away from what our constituents wanted they don't want to be disagreeable to you you're right that's what they are not disagreeable that's part of it there's a little box about this thing so Brad made a good point we need to come up with something a long time ago Brad made the point that we need to come up with some semblance of what our next steps are can we try to figure out honestly I think we've had some good conversation tonight and I think you're starting to crack the ice a little bit we've had these types of conversations knowing that there's an audience here of people, neighbors, renters, renies that you're probably upsetting through the process so it might take a couple more of these in order to get people to say you know what, fine but thank you for directing an intense at-time conversation because I think we have a lot of months we'll be just going to talk about it because we don't want to have this conversation right now but it'll happen when it happens there's a timeline out there that works for everybody when it's supposed to happen we can't make that decision tonight I wouldn't even vote on Abon tonight even if it was a K-12 in Iowa because I feel unfortunately Tony's normally at every single meeting and he ain't here tonight and that is his major area that he works and I feel it would be a disrespect to him and his service on the board what do you think? well into just like in August whatever meeting was to try to put something on ballot for November we couldn't vote on it right then we hadn't even really talked about it as a board that wasn't I just didn't feel like that was appropriate I agree it's good to have full participation and I would like that if possible wouldn't it be possible for us to have a special board meeting before our next meeting in early January to discuss this in depth I think we're going to have plenty of board meetings coming up here no matter if the board wants to do it I'll clear my calendar I just think we are in a very tight timeline if we're doing this in the spring we're going to have to have something decided in the early calendar and I don't know if we can get there to be able to do that I would be more comfortable with that so do we want to have this on the agenda for next time then and just see if we can't get keep it as an action in case something slips I mean what are we going to do between now and then though is there other steps that we should be taking we'll threaten you behind the scenes I know that that's going to happen I think we need to bring back some discussions that we're going to try to do so we probably need to try and bring back the estimated costs of the different options I feel like there's two options here we're talking about not 16, not 22, there's two but we have to be able to have some some ones of what that will look like I mean we're all talking in very general we could do this, we could do that so what do we want it to look like I don't want us to get into the not not that the numbers aren't important that's not what I mean but I think we have a bigger fundamental discussion about what location I think I think because your number would probably change a little because of different different things might be pretty much exactly the same depending on you know unless they're I don't know maybe a lot they get one okay can we go back to Maria and ask her what was what was provided do we already have that I'd hate to have it anymore I feel like we have it somewhere in there we have it that's how I got some of those I only one of those numbers I didn't was able to find but I didn't go back to find it okay so you want to maybe get 12 pieces in parts of things and just get some head around because I just probably have at this point because we don't really know exactly what we're doing so maybe next time we just we focus on location obviously there's a lot of discussion about why now on that but well ultimately I think we know we know where everyone stands on location there's really one person that has to make a decision on that so I don't know if having a soul discussion to talk about just location and one person to make that decision is necessary I'm assuming you're referring to me Jim sorry thanks that's fine you just say it I actually thought he meant the there was one person meaning a group of taxpayers to make the decision right that who makes the decision so I get to make the decision this is why I think that it's that much more important that we as a board are whatever we put forward I don't want to put forward another one we're not all going to be 100% happy with it but I would hope that whatever we put forward again we don't have board members actively campaigning against it because that I I was talking about you from last time but I'm talking about a future bond if we're all in the location how we've acted to work with the different states yeah and I see what I mean I don't think that that's good either I don't know what it's for us to do that either we're trying to put forward an option but I don't know but I don't know if you will or Tony Will or Dawn or Callie I don't know I'm just saying that as a board I'm a taxpayer I represent taxpayers so I I can fight bad ideas and I have and when I step away from here I have to fight bad ideas it's even worse at that I'm just talking about for a future I'm talking about for a future election even if we come up with one and it's all K-12 I don't want Callie going out and saying don't go for it which would happen I'm the president of the board I don't know I have a responsibility to the board okay yeah okay we'll be on there for next time sure you know great any other thoughts you're good all right you brought this one well what are we doing here why are we close to bill say a month so we're keeping it hanging on do you have those numbers I know that's like do you have any idea how much or did we get those numbers are you asking why aren't we sold it yet or are we moving towards selling it I don't think we are does anybody have any thoughts on that should we be moving towards selling it selling the stuff and if we decide we don't need it does anybody have any thoughts that's one of the things that's probably really easy to keep you know how to side out of line yeah that's my agreement and another two or three years down the road it might not be worth what it's worth today even if it's worth a dollar today it might only be worth 33 cents for now I mean I think it's something that's a good idea to keep in front of the board what are our plans with it I mean as a direction of consolidation we just got done talking I would not be able to completely understand why we would ever reopen it I thought part of it was that we were gonna we were gonna wait to see if there was a lot because we might have to shuffle kids if we were having to close the building down because it's being remodeled we demolished unfortunately and then needed to ask if that's why I couldn't remember we were still keeping it in case we needed to put in classrooms there if we so it's not been run by or like VHS I mean they weighed in on that if we did either one of these bonds I mean do they think we would need it or is that something we as a board decided to just we as a board PHS I would say anything but if you get rid of the modulars then where are you gonna put them those kind of things well and then each other plans they always put up temporary classrooms as opposed to on the bond path did you mean for those they would set up a temporary and do we have any like cost analysis on the difference between what it would cost for temporary classrooms versus just keeping that something you know we just use the modulars that are available I guess my honest analysis is if that thing's worth 100,000 to the guy that wants to do it or whatever that number is we're something in today's value right that's the value the realtors gave me yeah so it's worth a value today and if our potential buyer finds a solution someplace else and we didn't act on it and we get to use it for that the cost of that was whatever our sales price would have been opportunity cost we just lost whatever the number was 100,000 but we're gonna apply that to moving kids around for a bond would there be other options seems expensive seems expensive if you look at it in my opinion I mean I thought the original thing was to sell it it is I wanted to think expensive I guess it hasn't been on our bond for a real sense we close it I don't think so I don't remember talking about it is he still interacting yes we could go to an auction that's what the realtors told us to do can we close it can we close it off we can but they're indicating the best way is just to have an open auction right there right there and they like to check we can go to a market is it possible that there's an open auction I'm gonna say if it goes towards something that is a detriment to the area for some reason for it doesn't provide any form of economic development and not gonna say like a landfill but like hypothetically would the board have the option to not go with the highest bidder it would probably not have to be the option right and you could put in the contract the first right of refusal but are you willing to turn around and spend $100,000 to take it back that's where I feel like a closed auction you need to get in bids be able to turn the bids on the bids and the type of what it's going to be used for maybe provides an economic development versus I don't know the city kind of challenges that a little bit necessarily think that would be our area be able to go ahead and do something like that be it for bidding I would say yeah necessarily us as the seller we've already controlled that you know they may say when you do something maybe after two years and then change then you can't control that I think they must do we have an immediate need for it or that we're using it or want to use it for something maybe we should look to an option there's a bunch of things in it that would also need to be optioned could be optioned, extras it's a storage in it right now do we have any storage there that we're using what we're taking out sometimes because we're like oh we've got extras over here so we can just store everything some of that like for instance these from the elementary school computer lab areas in the junior high their computer lab area but it could or could be used in the future but just kind of place for them then we're robbing stuff like if we have a sink go out or we have doors up here in high school Gary robbed that door put it up there does that mean we should keep it hi you're the the board and I don't know the maintenance either I don't know do we need to have that storage is that storage something if we didn't have it I'm sorry to interrupt you you go if we if we auction off everything that's in there we don't have use for it now so you wouldn't need a space just don't pay that and if you needed to it depends on what you want to do with the modules again just FYI that's a pain and you don't get anything out of it you need to have the modules with that unit with the middle school as you want to know all the stuff we went through to get $2,000 you mean it's part of the option you get the modules yeah you can separate them you can do it you can sell it separate too you can probably make more money selling it separate yes the same thing you have to decide is this an asset we want to keep or we want to get rid of it I didn't really get how much it cost it might be a cluttery thing it would be cluttery how much is it for us to keep how much is it to keep the temperature of what it needs to be I think and I can't remember because I see him all the time but I can't remember how much we were spending we'll find out what the energy bills are we don't say very much but yeah we did we cut down the weight on the value of it as far as property insurance we cut that down we save $3,000 roughly a month in custodial there it was taken off $7,000 with ATS went out $23,000 so there's savings there personnel saved some of that as well they've saved so yeah I mean roughly speaking what I put out there is we're saving $50,000 a year we're saving $50,000 a year and if you just take a bucket of 4 square foot times that square footage of what it is that's pretty close I can bring you back the results of what were included in the prior notes or whatever transportation yeah we've had several buses with deaf issues not being deaf but the sensor piece and we'd like to have permission to take a little bit for a possible used or new $55,000 passenger gas bus the gas initially didn't have enough power wouldn't last as long but the same deal we're not driving the diesel may last 300 or 400,000 miles but the thing rocks out long before it hits there and so as far as the unit itself so the power has been addressed with the fuel injectors and those kind of things the motor size is big enough to handle it and not near the issues maintenance costs way less you don't have to have near so much oil and changing things with oil weight and everything else so we'd like to look to go to gas now the question would be okay we just got a $34,000 for the van that hasn't been delivered to the forward van we have $60,000 capital outlay that line item for a new or used vehicle so that's $26,000 we went through capital outlay we feel like we have enough money to purchase a bus for around $67,000 it depends the ones that we were looking at $2,000 how many buses are having issues? three I believe yeah there's three there's two down and one of them we were able to put it on and fix to drive but it still needs which are better than the other bus and the other piece I'm sorry and then with the other thing was the one bus that we were using we didn't want to put in the $2,000 that was just for the parts and so out on top of and the guy that does it is the most expensive which it's worth it because he's the only one that has a computer system to let you know what it is and how to reset it and so thank goodness we have him and the availability and so we've been using activity buses to run routes which then when it's okay until then you have activities and then you don't have an extra bus and working through that but we are not going to put the $2,000 into one of the buses that had issues from the day they started with the thing it's just one of those buses that always has issues I'm going to approve second any discussion? sorry I don't know how this person busing typically works but wait a second I'm sorry thank you so for the buses that have issues how are those usually disposed of we trade those in somehow or fix the sensors and it would take goods on when we're ready to route purple wave then we've gotten the most money would we fix the def sensor so it would basically because we're only getting $1,500 to $2,000 bus now we did for instance the last bus we did sell that way S&S we worked with them and basically we stripped everything so we got the tires for rims we got batteries we are out and running with the battery working on okay I got one battery so everything we could take off of there and they were good about okay well we paid $1,500 just to use it as storage here or whatever and so if you want Rob what you want to take from it they were very good about it so yeah that's right okay I'm going to move in seconded do you have any discussion questions alright all those in favor aye any opposed thank you let's see what we can get okay so the next action item is like this session item yes ten minutes so I'm going to go into executive session digital data relating to financial affairs trade secrets, corporations, partnerships, trust individual partnerships we need ten minutes is there a second what's that is it Jim Jim yeah the team member okay so that was back in here at 755 good moving on to personnel we have a motion to I move to approve employment as submitted with a substitute teacher Kimbler Day and Jamie Dunbar fall coaching rehire list as submitted the junior high boys basketball coaches of Joby Tarbutton, Talward and Brandy Miller accept the resignations of Cheryl Zeller board clerk Cheryl thank you for everything you've done for us and the organization that you brought to that office is excellent thank you accept the resignation of Galen Craighead as Alma and Maple Hill Elementary school principal and approve the transfer of duty of Michelle Garrett from transportation director to board of education clerk discussion or all those in favor hi hi ten minutes board member Gorm a couple things real quickly on the Cheryl could you show me the dates of those school board meetings I'll give Michelle my sheet on that so if you could email them to everybody are you talking about Dr yes and then the January 6th meeting we need to set a time what we're going to do is we are going to have district office staff that will be working directly with the principal or I'm sorry superintendent to be able to go through and these groups are going to answer these three questions the current strengths of the district the challenges the district is facing skills traits and qualities for the new superintendent so meet with the district office staff to be able to do that with administration and then the teachers group would be represented by and their negotiations that they would like to have input and then the board determining what time want to meet with that because then KSB would meet the board and say this is what these people said and then they compile what they are looking for is that correct how I interpreted from Dr. Brennan so we would meet first with Dr. Hart and then set a time for him and ask to meet with the board to give them the information as well as the teachers meeting correct and the administration so with Steven and Jam thank you that person said yeah yes okay I'm sorry so you mentioned the board clerk as well yes so any questions about that and they'll get out the information to you all with the dates KDOT safe routes to school grant we terminate that grant it was a $12,000 grant to come up with $3,000 the Manhattan Community Foundation they withdrew the $3,000 that they were going to take care about the district fund long story short it was due to some things the person that was representing the city and school on some grant things and so we have terminated that grant and the city of Paxico wanted to see what was going to happen with the bond before I would do anything preliminary budget we get that every year from KSDE and they go through and look in that form 150 where we build our budget off of that there was an example of that included in your the last page and it goes through and it checks and it shows you where we're up and down as far as our numbers and relatively speaking we lost FTE in our numbers we gained preschool, thank you Mr. Craig for his work with the preschool because we gained 6 FTE off of those preschool particular students and overall we were down 14.2 we lost 12.2 at risk and that's free lunch and everybody's got free lunch now so they were supposed to fill out an economic survey and some wouldn't do it we tried to get them to, they wouldn't do it and even with the idea that if you fill this out like I say, then if you need help we want to help you so then you wouldn't have to get your fees you can have those reduced and or not have any fees they still wouldn't fill it out so anyway we lost 12.1 from there and just lost 9.3 in transportation due to the fact that we aren't transporting as many kids but one of the questions was back on the other side but with career and tech ed we gained 4.2 and that was always a concern when we switched to the 7 hour versus block scheduling that we'd lose FTE money in our career and tech ed and but Cheryl's made the adjustments and Michelle and the general fund and the LOB to take us down that $88,000 in January with rather than having it in February I believe when we were to have it typically on a board agenda right to have it in Paxaco March we'd like to move it in January to Paxaco at the junior high and have Cheryl's retirement reception before that so started at 5 and then have the board meeting at 6 so just as an FYI that's okay that's all I have, thank you thanks Cheryl for all your good service I appreciate it it's awesome that you've done for our districts you're the secretary of the junior high thank you Mr. Craighead for your service as well we've asked a lot from you and you have provided as a key asset to continue education for kids so we appreciate your service as well that's a lot Cheryl, I just have to echo that thanks for everything and Mark always talks about that you were there too at junior high so we're older than Jim it's been a long run every eight thank you so much you're welcome on with that motion to adjourn second five seconds all in favor are you opposed to that no, okay thanks God